[00:01] <floWenoL> "You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for" getting this message and not being prompted when trying to sign with gpg
[00:01] <Basketball> bekks, how do i do the bash script though
[00:02] <bekks> Basketball: Create it?
[00:02] <Basketball> i already have the bash
[00:02] <Basketball> how do i make it run
[00:02] <bekks> Make it executable and run it.
[00:02] <Basketball> bekks, i want the live cd to autorun it when it is done
[00:02] <Basketball> as it installs more things
[00:03] <bekks> Basketball: As I said, I never messed with cds for customized installations.
[00:13] <Basketball> hey in ubuntu customization kit when i click run console application it says none found
[00:16] <michaelgamble> hey does anyone knwo if thier is anything more user freindly then using sixaxis for connecting ps3 controllers to an ubuntu box with blue tooth
[00:16] <michaelgamble> i was able to do it no problem, but its a bit difficult for my wife to have her typing in terminal commands lol
[00:16] <michaelgamble> either that or a recommendation on soemthjing a little more plug and play i can get for her
[00:17] <daftykins> write her a script
[00:17] <michaelgamble> i suppose i could do that
[00:17] <michaelgamble> thats not a bad idea
[00:17] <bekks> !info uck
[00:18] <huig> Eric^^: now i have copied the stuff i need..what should i do now?change the mode?
[00:18] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, when installing ubuntu from USB, the GRUB keeps getting installed to the USB instead of the hard drive
[00:18] <cluelessperson> As you can imagine, this is really freaking ANNOYING.
[00:18] <cluelessperson> any way around it?
[00:18] <EriC^^> huig, yes change the type
[00:19] <michaelgamble> hmm
[00:19] <EriC^^> cluelessperson, in the installer's Something else menu for partitioning choose the bootloader's location at the bottom
[00:19] <michaelgamble> it seems i may not even need sixaxis to use the controller through usb
[00:19] <michaelgamble> maybe thats my simple solution
[00:19] <daftykins> michaelgamble: yeah wired'd go fine i'm sure
[00:19] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, Ah, maybe I missed that, I'll try again.  Thanks.
[00:19] <michaelgamble> ill get a really long cable lol
[00:20] <michaelgamble> cant really screw up “plug it in"
[00:20] <svetlana> michaelgamble: fair enough :-)
[00:20] <EriC^^> cluelessperson, hold on a sec
[00:20] <huig> EriC^^: done
[00:20] <michaelgamble> i am a bit suprised no one has taken something like sixaxis further i guess
[00:21] <michaelgamble> making it a little more point and click
[00:21] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, At work, I had to revert to burning and installing via CD for it to work.
[00:21] <michaelgamble> probably not a huge demadn i suppose
[00:21] <michaelgamble> oh while im here
[00:21] <cluelessperson> but with usb, it always defaults grub to usb's root, not hdd
[00:21] <michaelgamble> best recommendation on running ubuntu or soemthing similar entirely off of a usb?
[00:22] <michaelgamble> in terms of OS flavour
[00:22] <cluelessperson> michaelgamble, for what purpose?
[00:22] <EriC^^> huig, did you write it?
[00:22] <cluelessperson> michaelgamble, Ubuntu does fine.
[00:22] <michaelgamble> i tried ubuntu a few times its a bit heavy for the purpose
[00:22] <huig> EriC^^: yep, if i look at the type using sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda it is 8300
[00:22] <cluelessperson> michaelgamble, tiny linux. :P
[00:22] <michaelgamble> im thinking something light weight with a gui that i can pop into multiple machines
[00:23] <EriC^^> huig, ok, try rebooting
[00:24] <huig> EriC^^: nothing, same problem, no bootable device
[00:24] <michaelgamble> is tiny linux the one that is specifc to running off usbs?
[00:24] <EriC^^> huig, i think the upgrade erased ubuntu's efi file in the efi partition
[00:25] <zsolt> lemez
[00:25] <michaelgamble> i was researching it a while ago and i remember thier was one with a gui that was specificly geared to run on usbs
[00:25] <EriC^^> huig, do you have a live usb?
[00:25] <huig> EriC^^: i can try using efibootmgr to try to boot the others partitions before booting mac osx
[00:26] <svetlana> michaelgamble: no
[00:26] <huig> EriC^^: yeah, i have been using the live usb all this time
[00:26] <michaelgamble> im thinking it was puppy linux maybe?
[00:26] <EriC^^> huig, ok give it a shot
[00:26] <svetlana> michaelgamble: knoppix is aso dedicated to running off usbs for example
[00:26] <michaelgamble> any one in praticular you might recommend trying first?
[00:26] <svetlana> michaelgamble: there's a lot of them and ubuntu can also do the job fine unless the computer is so slow and old that it falls over on ubuntu's funny desktop things
[00:27] <Daniel_> there's different puppy linuxes that run off USB
[00:27] <michaelgamble> cool well ill check those out
[00:27] <michaelgamble> i have tried ubuntu on a fairly decent laptop off of usb, and ran into issues wiht paging choking out
[00:28] <bekks> michaelgamble: That will happen with every linux.
[00:28] <michaelgamble> which is fine didnt really need it, just default config for ubuntu was a bit clunky on usb
[00:28] <michaelgamble> (coming from a lazy perspective)
[00:29] <huig> EriC^^: it booted mac osx, so it could't boot the other partitions
[00:29] <EriC^^> huig, ok boot the live usb
[00:30] <huig> Eric^^: done
[00:30] <cjanikdev> anyone know why my wifi keeps disconnecting?
[00:31] <cjanikdev> or how i can fix it?
[00:31] <EriC^^> ok type sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[00:31] <svetlana> cjanikdev: check dmesg
[00:31] <cjanikdev> how?
[00:31] <cjanikdev> i'm a very ignorant child
[00:32] <huig> EriC^^: done
[00:32] <EriC^^> huig, ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[00:33] <huig> EriC^^: mount: mount point /mnt/boot/efi does not exist
[00:34] <EriC^^> huig, it's the ubuntu installation though right?
[00:34] <huig> EriC^^: in /mnt/boot i see grub but not efi
[00:34] <huig> yep
[00:35] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mkdir /mnt/boot/efi
[00:35] <cjanikdev> anybody know why my I keep disconnecting from wifi or how I can fix it?
[00:35] <cjanikdev> f**k i'm stupid
[00:35] <huig> EriC^^: done creating efi and done with mounting dev/sda1 in efi
[00:36] <EriC^^> huig, ok type ls -l /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[00:37] <huig> Eric^^: no such file or directory
[00:38] <huig> in ./EFI/ there is APPLE BOOT tools
[00:38] <EriC^^> huig, ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[00:38] <theoriginalpines> hi
[00:38] <daftykins> EriC^^: i knew you were the person for the job!
[00:39] <EriC^^> :P
[00:39] <daftykins> so did that Yosemite upgrade nuke the partitions?
[00:39] <huig> EriC^^: done
[00:39] <EriC^^> daftykins, it's pretty odd the ubuntu efi dir is gone
[00:40] <EriC^^> huig, type sudo chroot /mnt
[00:40] <daftykins> sounds like Apple :>
[00:40] <EriC^^> hehe
[00:40] <EriC^^> :D
[00:41] <huig> EriC^^: before typing the last command you told me, the one about the loop for. find ./EFI | grep ubuntu only outputted something related with .png, the name tells they are icons.. (in case it helps)
[00:41] <huig> EriC^^: done
[00:41] <EriC^^> huig, ok
[00:42] <EriC^^> huig, ok type dpkg -l | grep grub
[00:42] <EriC^^> huig, is grub-efi installed?
[00:44] <huig> EriC^^: i have no idea, i installed ubuntu, it booted with the boot manager of mac osx, although when i choosed ubuntu, grup appeared and i could choose ubuntu or mac osx
[00:45] <huig> EriC^^: the command did output something..what do u want of that output?
[00:45] <huig> or was it only to see if something appeared?
[00:45] <EriC^^> huig, ok, check if grub-efi is there
[00:45] <EriC^^> it might be grub-efi-amd64-signed
[00:46] <huig> EriC^^: i see grub-common, grub-gfxpayload-lists, grub-pc-bin, grub2-common
[00:46] <huig> not grub-efi
[00:46] <EriC^^> ok, i was thinking so
[00:47] <EriC^^> cause you don't have a /boot/efi dir and osx couldn't have removed that
[00:47] <EriC^^> it's a weird franken setup
[00:47] <huig> so what do i do now?
[00:47] <EriC^^> you have grub-pc ( legacy )
[00:48] <EriC^^> i have no idea
[00:48] <huig> EriC^^: grub-pc i have
[00:48] <EriC^^> you installed ubuntu after you had osx there?
[00:48] <huig> yeah
[00:49] <EriC^^> just a standard ubuntu install, standard iso?
[00:49] <huig> and i installed an osx manager
[00:49] <huig> yeah
[00:49] <huig> an osx boot manager
[00:49] <EriC^^> did ubuntu boot after the install?
[00:49] <huig> yeah, i choosed it from the boot manager provided by mac osx
[00:51] <EriC^^> ok and the osx boot manager you installed was optional?
[00:51] <EriC^^> i mean it booted without it?
[00:51] <huig> EriC^^: maybe it is easier if i reinstall ubuntu..i don't know if i can install it in that partition though
[00:52] <EriC^^> huig, if you're willing to take the risk, you could reinstall grub-pc
[00:52] <EriC^^> i imagine that's what the installer did when you installed ubuntu
[00:52] <huig> EriC^^: it is optional, if not installed when powering on the pc you have to press the option key to choose the device to boot from
[00:52] <EriC^^> oh ok
[00:52] <cjanikdev> anybody know why I keep disconnecting from my wifi or how I can fix it?
[00:53] <huig> EriC^^: having the stuff i need i don't mind reinstalling ubuntu, if i can install it in that partition..you think i could?
[00:54] <EriC^^> what about the osx stuff?
[00:54] <EriC^^> you could try to just reinstall grub, but i'm not sure about it so it's up to you
[00:56] <huig> EriC^^: the osx stuff boots alright, i only lost ubuntu stuff but now i copied it so i have it. if you are not sure about reinstalling grub i am not taking the risk
[00:56] <EriC^^> ok
[00:56] <huig> EriC^^: how can i know if i can rewrite the partition where ubuntu was and install a new distro there?
[00:57] <EriC^^> huig, in the installer just select Something else, and then select that partition and edit the mountpoint to "/" and click on the format checkbox
[00:57] <EriC^^> huig, it'll format it and install ubuntu there
[00:58] <huig> EriC^^: ok, archlinux, ubuntu or debian? what do u suggest
[00:59] <EriC^^> depends and it's pretty subjective
[01:00] <Nokaji> good folk of ubuntu land I have a question, as a ubuntu newbie, where should I focus my efforts initially so I can get to grips with the more technial and power-user type aspects?
[01:00] <huig> EriC^^: i know it is pretty subjective, i have been using Ubuntu for months and i like it, but i am curious for trying out new things
[01:00] <huig> so be subjective please haha
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> huig, use KVM and boot a few live images
[01:01] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, So I'm sitting at this partiioning method screen
[01:01] <cluelessperson> what options do you suggest?
[01:01] <EriC^^> huig, well try arch
[01:02] <huig> EriC^^: why do u suggest arch?
[01:02] <ObrienDave> it makes you work to keep it running
[01:03] <daftykins> Nokaji: tough call. do the free Linux intro course LFS101 from edx.org
[01:03] <EriC^^> well it's a nice experience, you'll have to install everything so you'll learn a lot, plus it's really clean and it boots in like 4secs systemd is nuts
[01:04] <Nokaji> great, thanks daftykins
[01:05] <Amm0n> ObrienDave, i just upgrade a one year neglegted arch and it just runs..
[01:05] <Amm0n> *upgraded
[01:07] <EriC^^> yeah it doesn't really have problems that way, but you have to setup up everything even syntax highlighting in nano isn't enabled etc. etc.
[01:07] <cjanikdev> Amm0n, would you happen to have any insight on how I can fix my wifi situation? xP
[01:09] <huig> Eric^^: i use vim, would not have problems with nano haha
[01:10] <EriC^^> huig, you'd have to install it though :P it's not installed by default
[01:10] <Amm0n> cjanikdev, start over here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[01:10] <cjanikdev> thank you
[01:11] <ObrienDave> Amm0n, way too much work for me ;P
[01:12] <huig> EriC^^: yeah, that isn't an issue, normally vi is default but vim isn't
[01:12] <EriC^^> huig, yeah, anyways give it a go, or maybe resize the partition and leave some for arch
[01:13] <huig> EriC^^: i will try it, thanks EriC^^, you have been of great help!
[01:13] <EriC^^> fwiw it uses like 2gb installed with some programs and the memory consumption is really really low, like 350mb with chrome open
[01:14] <huig> arch has gcc, g++ and python by default?
[01:15] <EriC^^> i think it comes with the base-devel package
[01:17] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, I couldn't find a grub option, same stuff is occurring
[01:17] <EriC^^> cluelessperson, when you boot what happens?
[01:18] <EriC^^> huig, i mean when you install you can install base + base-devel and it has gcc and the rest
[01:19] <Amm0n> huig, read https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/arch_compared_to_other_distributions
[01:20] <huig> i suppose if you install base you can the download what you need for gcc and the rest right?
[01:20] <huig> Amm0n: right there, reading it, thanks!
[01:21] <EriC^^> huig, yeah, but you need that meta package for making packages from the AUR, it's like build-essential
[01:21] <OerHeks> i would start with the metapackage build-essentials
[01:24] <EriC^^> cluelessperson, did you select the bootloader location at the bottom in the installer?
[01:29] <AkashicLegend> how do I move hidden files using mv
[01:30] <EriC^^> AkashicLegend, they are exactly the same thing
[01:30] <EriC^^> mv .file <destination>
[01:31] <AkashicLegend> hmm I tried that it didn't work
[01:31] <AkashicLegend> let me try again
[01:31] <bekks> What was the exact command you used?
[01:31] <AkashicLegend> oh I think I know what happened
[01:32] <AkashicLegend> I didn't check the destination file with ls -a
[01:32] <AkashicLegend> yeah it's there
[01:32] <AkashicLegend> thanks
[01:32] <bekks> Thats not necessary, since (having sufficient permissions) you will overwrite it.
[01:44] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, Alright, I finally got this to boot up, with USB
[01:45] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, but the grub is on the USB
[01:45] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, How do I fix this?
[01:45] <EriC^^> cluelessperson, boot the live usb
[01:46] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, I mean it's booted fine now, into the server
[01:46] <EriC^^> oh ok
[01:46] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, how do I fix grub?
[01:46] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l
[01:47] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[01:47] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, The HDD is SDA I think
[01:53] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/10698809
[01:54] <Kage`> Would this be a proper channel to ask about bridge networking help in Ubuntu?
[01:54] <Kage`> Not sure..
[01:56] <EriC^^> cluelessperson, ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:56] <excelsiora> no swap, what do I do?
[01:56] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, ?  isn't it already mounted?  the server is running now
[01:57] <EriC^^> oh right
[01:57] <excelsiora> see output of free: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10698823/
[01:57] <EriC^^> just type sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[01:57] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[01:57] <excelsiora> no swap!
[01:58] <EriC^^> excelsiora, do you have a swap partition?
[01:58] <excelsiora> Yes!
[01:58] <OerHeks> excelsiora, logical, if you have an encrypted system
[01:58] <EriC^^> type sudo swapon
[01:59] <cluelessperson> EriC^^,  I did  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:59] <cluelessperson> and then sudo update-grub
[01:59] <EriC^^> ok, try rebooting
[01:59] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, works without USB
[01:59] <cluelessperson> EriC^^,  in the past when I did this, the server updated and reverted back to needing usb
[02:00] <EriC^^> oh
[02:01] <EriC^^> odd
[02:01] <Amm0n> no chroot /mnt before?
[02:03] <Amm0n> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[02:03] <[Ex0r]> Hmm, how does one get adware/malware on linux?
[02:05] <Amm0n> [Ex0r], https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware :P
[02:06] <AkashicLegend> I'm running an image of ubuntu on vmplayer. everything is smooth but there is no internet
[02:06] <AkashicLegend> do you guys know what could be wrong?
[02:08] <excelsiora> OerHeks: so what do I do?
[02:11] <cluelessperson> AkashicLegend, vms sometiems have issues with network drivers
[02:11] <cluelessperson> AkashicLegend, look into that
[02:12] <cluelessperson> AkashicLegend, use as generic network drivers as possible.
[02:12] <AkashicLegend> I guess. I have a fedora image that works fine so maybe the issue are drivers.
[02:15] <Amm0n> excelsiora, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[02:16] <svetlana> [Ex0r]: by leaving the system online without updates installed mostly
[02:16] <svetlana> [Ex0r]: sometimes by giving access to it to people who compromise it in some way
[02:16] <Amm0n> AkashicLegend, maybe you need to setup a static ip in your guest
[02:17] <Amm0n> http://ubuntuguide.net/setting-up-network-connection-in-ubuntu-vmware-guest
[02:19] <svetlana> [Ex0r]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Linuxvirus & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSecurityTools contain a list of malware which can run on ubuntu (and how it got there), and tools to monitor for it
[02:20] <Zenn> where do I get 15.04?
[02:21] <svetlana> Zenn: #ubuntu+1 topic should have some hints, it's not released yet and i have no idea
[02:22] <Zenn> windows sucks man
[02:23] <Zenn> it slows the shit down of my laptop.. for apparently no reason.
[02:25] <Zenn> well this are my pc status
[02:25]  * Zenn ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x86) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P7350  @ 2.00GHz (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3036 MB Total (1586 MB Free) ** VGA: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series ** Uptime: 9.92 Hours **
[02:28] <daftykins> Zenn: keep the language family friendly, we have no interests in your PC spec - and 15.04 isn't out yet.
[02:29] <Zenn> alright
[02:29] <verdeP> at least he is being positive :D
[02:30] <svetlana> Zenn: welcome.. i usually go with whatever is already released, it's got some bugs taken out at least (before release the system goes through thorough testing)
[02:31] <Zenn> well Im sure 15.04 is fairly stable
[02:31] <Zenn> unless Im wrong
[02:31] <svetlana> Zenn: of course you can go ahead and test, it could be nice way to learn stuff. but beta tester is not the usual way to start out :p
[02:31] <Zenn> you guys are so nice.
[02:32] <Zenn> anyway Im quite scared to check bank related on my laptop which run windows somehow after having a virus protection the laptop still got infected with some spyware
[02:33] <svetlana> fair enough.. i personally do banking from a live cd
[02:33] <daftykins> Zenn: doesn't matter, 15.04 isn't final yet and is only on-topic in #ubuntu+1
[02:33] <Zenn> o.O
[02:33] <svetlana> just in case (so that my otherwise daily usage doesn't kick in the writable medium -- livecd is a readonly cd)
[02:33] <daftykins> however feel free to consider installing a supported long-term-support edition, such as 14.04
[02:34] <Zenn> uh can I ask something the fact that Im using 15.04 does it auto updates daily with the system updater?
[02:34] <daftykins> take it to the #ubuntu+1 channel please.
[02:34] <svetlana> (mind, if i can avoid banking online, i avoid it. i abuse money orders etc as i don't like sending data over the internet if i don't have to)
[02:34] <daftykins> data over the internet? ;)
[02:34] <Zenn> daftykins, Im just asking if the operating system will be updated.
[02:35] <svetlana> Zenn, people are getting a little repetitive & upset.. yes it has an update channel, but i don't remember how it works
[02:35] <daftykins> you're doing it right now to send these messages
[02:35] <svetlana> that's the sort of data i like to send, not the banking kind :)
[02:35] <Zenn> like 14.10 -> 15.04
[02:35] <daftykins> Zenn: yep and i'd rather you continue your convo in the appropriate channel thanks. it's not too much to ask.
[02:35]  * Zenn has downloaded 14.10 and dartykins keep telling me to go to another channel
[02:36] <svetlana> Zenn, after release itd shift to next unstable thing (15.10) and you'd keep sitting in the alpha testers room for another few months if i'm not mistaken
[02:36] <daftykins> yeah utopic will be upgradeable to vivid
[02:36] <svetlana> and yes, once its out any stable release users wil be able to update to 15.10
[02:36] <svetlana> that's correct
[02:36] <svetlana> er to 15.04 first
[02:36] <daftykins> Zenn: odd, you said you're running 15.04 a minute ago - your story keeps changing :)
[02:36] <svetlana> he isnt running 1504 yet
[02:36] <svetlana> hes considering
[02:37] <daftykins> very bad wording then
[02:37] <Zenn> nope I got a 14.10 here. just wondering if it going to update 15.04 or do I need to download separately when the time comes like you know you cant upgrade windows 7 to windows 8 etc
[02:37] <svetlana> it'll upgrade for you, it'll offer you the major release upgrade
[02:37] <Zenn> that's something Im worrued about.
[02:37] <Zenn> uh this is great.
[02:37] <svetlana> and it's normally seamless & easy
[02:38] <svetlana> i've done such major release upgrade about 5 times now
[02:38] <svetlana> when you do it, take time to read release notes - they're important for the upgrade process
[02:38] <svetlana> it'll offer you to read them too
[02:38] <dysfunct1onal> So I set up a new install of Ubuntu, being that it is retarded I have no root password, it did not create an /etc/passwd entry for my regular user
[02:38] <dysfunct1onal> so i have no login shell
[02:39] <dysfunct1onal> i know how to manually create that entry
[02:39] <dysfunct1onal> but i have no idea how to get to it
[02:39] <Zenn> I have been looking at some videos tutorials, It is quite sick
[02:39] <daftykins> dysfunct1onal: doesn't sound like a normal setup to me, what kind of setup is this?
[02:39] <daftykins> dysfunct1onal: you don't have root in ubuntu no, so if you have a problem with that perhaps you should be using a different distro
[02:40] <dysfunct1onal> i dont know much about ubuntu, I thought none of them came with root passwords by default
[02:40] <daftykins> there is no root password, indeed
[02:40] <svetlana> Zenn: well if you have issues or concerns about it, it would be nice to ask after it's out (which is when everyone would already know the release notes and some common questions about the upgrade)
[02:40] <EriC^^> dysfunct1onal, you have root privileges
[02:40] <svetlana> Zenn: otherwise it's hard to be helpful
[02:40] <EriC^^> dysfunct1onal, sudo is installed and you're in the sudo group
[02:40] <dysfunct1onal> how do you fix retarded issues like this with no root password
[02:40] <Zenn> alright mate ^^
[02:40] <dysfunct1onal> theres no login shell for the regular user
[02:40] <svetlana> Zenn: :) i'm waiting for it as well
[02:40] <daftykins> dysfunct1onal: stop throwing that word around.
[02:40] <dysfunct1onal> there is no /etc/passwd entry
[02:40] <EriC^^> dysfunct1onal, the installer creates a user
[02:41] <dysfunct1onal> i know how to create one manually but i have no idea HOW to get to be able to
[02:41] <svetlana> what does it log you in, if not a shell
[02:41] <EriC^^> boot into the recovery mode
[02:41] <EriC^^> but your story doesn't make sense
[02:41] <dysfunct1onal> it doesnt log you in
[02:41] <svetlana> (i think it logs you into something basic from where you can start a shell) ah ok
[02:41] <EriC^^> drop to a root shell
[02:41] <dysfunct1onal> it wont, you have no /etc/passwd entry
[02:41] <svetlana> thanks EriC^^
[02:41] <Zenn> anyway I remember that was a bug no idea if that was fixed if you press the caps lock too fast it appears to have not register the key so the next Letter will be like this HI the rather than Hi the
[02:41] <daftykins> dysfunct1onal: are you logged in as the standard user, yes or no?
[02:41] <EriC^^> you dont need a passwd entry, you just have to not have set a root password
[02:42] <dysfunct1onal> cant login no
[02:42] <svetlana> Zenn, thatd be hardware specific, if you look it up on launchpad you'll find whether it was fixed or not
[02:42] <dysfunct1onal> you do need a passwd entry
[02:42] <daftykins> why not? you should have chosen a username during install
[02:42] <EriC^^> dysfunct1onal, is this a server?
[02:42] <dysfunct1onal> that gives you your login shell
[02:42] <daftykins> so this sounds like a non-standard setup, explain
[02:42] <daftykins> is this a VPS? a physical system you just installed from USB/DVD?
[02:43] <dysfunct1onal> every user HAS to have a /etc/passwd entry
[02:43] <daftykins> help us... to help you
[02:43] <dysfunct1onal> or no login
[02:43] <dysfunct1onal> its a friends system
[02:43] <Zenn> svetlana, you mean it has not been fixed yet? what was the issue?
[02:43] <daftykins> stop harping on about passwd and answer the above
[02:43] <dysfunct1onal> he installed it normally
[02:43] <svetlana> Zenn, type your kb name or computer name, it may have been fixed outside of launchpad as well, if you already have the bug then there's nothing to loose by the upgrade anyway... once the upgrade is over you could come back to this question and folks would help you troubleshoot it (or I can ask few questions now if you like btu  I risk wasting time on something that's already fixed)
[02:43] <daftykins> right, friends system - of what? ubuntu (what version?) desktop?
[02:43] <dysfunct1onal> it just installed incorrectly
[02:43] <daftykins> so re-do it
[02:43] <dysfunct1onal> ultimate edition, basically yes ubuntu
[02:43] <daftykins> ultimate? there's no such thing
[02:43] <EriC^^> ultimate edition
[02:44] <EriC^^> lol
[02:44] <Zenn> kb name or computer name?
[02:44] <daftykins> my troll alarm is going off
[02:44] <dysfunct1onal> i dont personally use a system that comes without the ability to do administration like this
[02:44] <EriC^^> dysfunct1onal, try down arrow left arrow left arrow block
[02:44] <dysfunct1onal> this is ridiculous
[02:44] <daftykins> dysfunct1onal: if it didn't install right, then you can't keep moaning about how the OS works 'cause clearly it didn't install right... so reinstall.
[02:44] <EriC^^> for the friendship fatality
[02:45] <dysfunct1onal> yeah hes not going to reinstall after all that time
[02:45] <daftykins> 'all that time'
[02:45] <dysfunct1onal> but i have to seriously question not giving root access for problems like this
[02:45] <svetlana> sorry yes, ultimate edition is a remix of ubuntu, it's not ubuntu itself
[02:45] <daftykins> just how long has 'your friend' been using a computer that can't be logged into?
[02:45] <svetlana> i suspect ultimate edition folks have their own support channel
[02:45] <dysfunct1onal> im training to be a sys admin, id never want such a setup
[02:46] <dysfunct1onal> thanks anyway i guess
[02:46] <svetlana> Zenn: search for both kb model and computer model
[02:46] <daftykins> hmm i don't recall if that one is supported in here
[02:46] <dysfunct1onal> ill stick with debian wheezy
[02:46] <daftykins> !ultimate
[02:46] <daftykins> what an absolute idiot
[02:47] <svetlana> daftykins: i have trouble catching up.. was that cause root user doesn't have a passwd entry?
[02:47] <AkashicLegend> kk I fix the problem
[02:47] <AkashicLegend> I had to setup the network adapters
[02:47] <svetlana> yay
[02:47] <EriC^^> svetlana, he came he rant he left
[02:47] <AkashicLegend> I had to many adapters on at once, vpn and other things that messed it up
[02:47] <daftykins> svetlana: not this distro, not our problem
[02:47] <AkashicLegend> too*
[02:48] <svetlana> daftykins: yes about ultimate i got that by a web search.. i didn't get the problem the folk was trying to raise about users though, the way he put it was beyond my scope
[02:48] <Zenn> svetlana, are you saying it is a hardware issue?
[02:48] <EriC^^> svetlana, he was saying it didn't create a user when he installed
[02:48] <EriC^^> bad iso maybe, who knows
[02:49] <daftykins> svetlana: sorry, passing on confused peoples problems is above my paygrade
[02:49] <daftykins> went in the nutjob pile for me pretty quick.
[02:49] <AkashicLegend> trust problem after problem with this image I downloaded
[02:49] <daftykins> anyone who can't handle 'sudo' generally does :P
[02:49] <AkashicLegend> I'm trying to install tree but it says it can't find the package
[02:49] <svetlana> Zenn: drivers are the software that's responsible for correct work of your hardware -- i suspect it might be a driver issue or a keyboard shortcut config issue.. i would search for it on the trackers of ubuntu and of the relevant driver, and look up the computer model on the ubuntu hardware compatibility page
[02:49] <AkashicLegend> how do I fix the repositories
[02:49] <Zenn> svetlana, http://askubuntu.com/questions/574740/caps-lock-delay
[02:49] <AkashicLegend> on ubuntu
[02:50] <EriC^^> !info tree
[02:50] <daftykins> AkashicLegend: what image?
[02:50] <svetlana> AkashicLegend: what's the problem
[02:50] <ParSalian> sudo add-apt-repository
[02:50] <AkashicLegend> I got it off osboxes
[02:50] <EriC^^> AkashicLegend, you have to enable the universe repository
[02:50] <ParSalian> dont know the repo
[02:50] <Zenn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-keyboard/+bug/1376903
[02:51] <svetlana> Zenn: err ok.. good find :) this has no milestone set, i'm reading it to understand why
[02:51] <daftykins> AkashicLegend: got *what* ?
[02:52] <AkashicLegend> the image
[02:52] <daftykins> image of WHAT
[02:52] <Zenn> svetlana, it is a known bug for ages
[02:52] <Zenn> no one seems to be able to fix it too
[02:52] <daftykins> oh sweet Tux why do you send these people
[02:53] <svetlana> Zenn: i would kill Xorg and test for the issue again to isolate it
[02:53] <Zenn> kill xorg?
[02:53] <svetlana> it's reported as a Xorg bug but there's no evidence for that
[02:53] <svetlana> categoriing & triaging it properly could help to resolve it quicker
[02:53] <Zenn> isnt ubuntu going make a switch fromm xorg in the future?
[02:53] <AkashicLegend> wow dafty, the image of ubuntu
[02:54] <AkashicLegend> 14.10
[02:54] <svetlana> yes. I'm not sure whether just switching to a virtua console (ctrl+alt+f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6; f7 orf8 back to gui) is a good way to escape xorg
[02:54] <daftykins> AkashicLegend: what's wrong with the official mirrors?
[02:54] <Zenn> brb later
[02:54] <daftykins> AkashicLegend: i'm trying to establish if you're using some kind of non-standard modified distro instead of standard official.
[02:55] <EriC^^> Zenn, http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/
[02:55] <AkashicLegend> oh I see
[02:55] <svetlana> Zenn: i think the upgrade wouldn't force you to uninstall X and instal Wayland even when their defaults change. they respect your list of installed software.
[02:55] <AkashicLegend> well I am adding the universal repository and doing an update
[02:55] <AkashicLegend> I'll see if that fixes the problem
[02:55] <Zenn> yeah that Eric mir is suppose to replace xorg
[02:56] <svetlana> or mir.. but they'll respect and support Xorg (as in,it'll still be in the repos and still continue to receive updates)
[02:56] <Finetundra> is there a good place to ask questions about lxqt?
[02:56] <Zenn> why has xorg has not fixed the bug yet then?
[02:57] <AkashicLegend> yeah it fixed the problem
[02:57] <AkashicLegend> thanks guys
[02:57] <ParSalian> Finetundra: have you tried #lxqt
[02:58] <nicomachus> hi guys, I bought a USB wireless adapter for my laptop (NIC going out), but I'm having some trouble activating it.
[02:58] <svetlana> Zenn: because it's probably not an xorg bug, and whoever filed it didn't include hardware details
[02:58] <Zenn> possible if I refile it?
[02:58] <nicomachus> it comes with an installation mini-disc that has linux instructions and a shell script for automatic install, but the shell script won't run.
[02:58] <EriC^^> nicomachus, what does it say when you try to run it?
[02:59] <svetlana> Zenn: more like possible if you add a comment to the existing bug and incude more detais (what hardware, does it work ok in virtual console)
[02:59] <svetlana> l
[02:59] <nicomachus> EriC^^: nothing happens at all.
[02:59] <nicomachus> I set it as executable, and nautilus is set to allow scripts.
[02:59] <EriC^^> nicomachus, you have to run it from the terminal
[02:59] <nicomachus> I also tried executing it from terminal, but no luck.
[02:59] <EriC^^> what does it say in the terminal?
[03:00] <Finetundra> ParSalian: there just seems to be one fellow there and he has yet to respond
[03:00] <nicomachus> I navigated to the folder and then typed in the file name, but it's named "install.sh" so terminal thinks I"m trying to run an install command and asks for argument
[03:00] <EriC^^> nicomachus, cd to the dir, and type ./install.sh
[03:00] <EriC^^> you probably have to use sudo ./install.sh
[03:01] <nicomachus> ahhhh
[03:01] <ParSalian> Finetundra: looks like they are on #LXDE
[03:01] <nicomachus> I wasn't using ./
[03:01] <Finetundra> ParSalian: ok, will have a look
[03:01] <nicomachus> it's running now. probably gonna kick me off here...
[03:02] <nicomachus> ugh, maybe not... "compile make driver error: 1"
[03:02] <excelsiora> Amm0n: thanks for the link on the swap faq
[03:02] <EriC^^> nicomachus, is there a README?
[03:02] <EriC^^> or INSTALL?
[03:03] <nicomachus> EriC^^: Yes, there's a readme. nothing in there to help though.
[03:03] <nicomachus> trying it as sudo now.
[03:05] <nicomachus> oh, wow, there's a folder with 15 readme docs.... wtf...
[03:05] <ParSalian> seems to me that would be second try...
[03:07] <svetlana> nicomachus: i think that's just the same in different languages. hopefully. :-)
[03:07] <nicomachus> nope...
[03:07] <svetlana> aw, hehe
[03:07] <nicomachus> quick start guides for all kinds of stuff. driver compilation, power saving, etc
[03:08] <excelsiora> ok, I have a swap partition, I think
[03:08] <nicomachus> support wifi certification, bridge, SoftAP, porting guide, wpa supplicant.... all in very technical terms.
[03:09] <nicomachus> they advertise this adapter as "plug and forget". :|
[03:09] <excelsiora> I have this: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1
[03:11] <ParSalian> nicomachus: generally not that way on linux
[03:11] <svetlana> nicomachus: if they really wanted it to be this way, they would package it for ubuntu instead of using ugly things like this.
[03:12] <nicomachus> haha, I was just impressed they actually had linux install files.
[03:12] <svetlana> nicomachus:  I would torment them with any questions on the install, personally, so that they get exactly as much support load as they deserve.
[03:13] <nicomachus> hahaha but that's what you guys are for! :P
[03:13] <nicomachus> gotta find this 500mg aspirin I just dropped on the floor before my cat does, then I'll look up their support contact info.
[03:19] <Machus> nicomachus: Sup bro
[03:20] <excelsiora> Hey, do you guys have a link to a Juju tutorial? Mark said you would. :)
[03:20] <excelsiora> I wanna test it out on my own machine, in maybe a container or something like that.
[03:21] <ParSalian> !juju
[03:21] <nicomachus> sup machus
[03:22] <excelsiora> according to fstab I have /dev/mapper/cryptswap1
[03:31] <daftykins> yeah 'cause you're using encryption
[03:31] <daftykins> ;)
[03:34] <ronin> Hello
[03:34] <nicomachus> everyone give excelsiora a round of applause for being a smart guy.
[03:37] <cluelessperson> hey guys
[03:38] <cluelessperson> how do I create a user with only ssh tunneling functions?
[03:38] <cluelessperson> nothing else?  no shell, etc.
[03:38] <che2> so when i go man (command) i notice that some of the command options start with - and some start with --, do these dashes need to be used? because when i unzip something it's tar xf filename.
[03:39] <che2> what's the difference between 1 dash options and 2 dash options
[03:39] <ParSalian> che2: yes
[03:39] <ParSalian> in the man page
[03:39] <che2> yes
[03:39] <ParSalian> the differences are in the man page
[03:39] <che2> right, i'm saying in the man page some of the options have 1 dash and some have 2, what's with that?
[03:40] <che2> i'm a noob, probably a dumb question
[03:40] <ParSalian> they are different
[03:40] <nicomachus> isn't -- usually a shortcut option?
[03:40] <che2> man tar
[03:41] <aeon-ltd> che2: supposedly an 'end' to what is parsed by bash http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-does-double-dash-mean-in-ssh-command/
[03:41] <ParSalian> sometimes they use -(letter) as a shortcut of the longer --commandswitch
[03:41] <che2> aeon-ltd: thanks
[03:41] <tarwater> is there a separate ubuntu help channel, or is this it?
[03:41] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know how to create a user with only ssh-tunnel permissions, nothing else?
[03:41] <gh0strat> I'm using a PCIe (Atheros 93xx based) card on a fresh install of 14.10, but it's like it can't see the card. The card is a Rosewill N900, model number: RNWD-N9003PCe
[03:42] <ParSalian> raid?
[03:42] <gh0strat> I checked reviews before I purchased the card, and everyone seemed to say it just worked.
[03:42] <aeon-ltd> che2: here says somethng else though http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/quick-question-about-single-double-dash-commands-883039/
[03:43] <Amm0n> cluelessperson, creating users needs root permission
[03:44] <ParSalian> gh0strat: has it been installed correctly
[03:45] <gh0strat> ParSalian, the card has been working fine in Windows 7
[03:45] <cluelessperson> Amm0n, obviously?
[03:45] <cluelessperson> Amm0n, I'm asking how to create a user that's restricted
[03:45] <ParSalian> good, info:-)
[03:45] <ParSalian> any drivers you needed in windows
[03:45] <ParSalian> is it a raid card
[03:45] <gh0strat> nope, it just worked from what I remember
[03:46] <gh0strat> no, it's a NIC
[03:46] <tarwater> my executable python script wont run with a double-click, but it will run from the terminal with: python ./test.py
[03:46] <tarwater> the first line is #!usr/bin/python like it should be, and i change the permissions to make it executable
[03:46] <gh0strat> which python
[03:47] <gh0strat> wrong window lol
[03:47] <tarwater> it should be 2.7
[03:47] <gh0strat> you're missing the slash
[03:47] <gh0strat> #!/usr/bin/python
[03:47] <tarwater> where
[03:47] <tarwater> oh fuck me
[03:47] <hack> Lol
[03:47] <gh0strat> hey, don't feel bad about it. Sometimes, all it takes is a second set of eyes
[03:48] <hack> Yea
[03:51] <nicomachus> tarwater: I spent 4 hours trying to troubleshoot an rsync command, when I realized that capitalization matters. :/
[03:52] <tarwater> thats rough
[03:52] <john_doe_jr1> I commented out some mount points in /etc/fstab but is still showing when I type the "mount" command…do u have any idea?
[03:53] <Alissa> Does anyone know why - on Ubuntu 14.10 - if I exit out of Skype, there's nothing on the top right corner and I can't log back in or anything?
[03:53] <excelsiora> thanks for the applause, but when I don't have swap, I don't feel all that smart
[03:53] <Amm0n> cluelessperson, sry i got you wrong.. read: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14312/how-to-restrict-an-ssh-user-to-only-allow-ssh-tunneling
[03:54] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, best way to make a simple, very simple socks proxy?
[03:54] <Alissa> cluelessperson: ssh -D
[03:55] <cluelessperson> Alissa, for possibly public other users
[03:55] <Alissa> Run ssh -D to any server, then have users connect through that.
[03:55] <Alissa> Should work.
[03:55] <Alissa> In theory, tht is.
[03:55] <ParSalian> gh0strat:i cant track any solutions
[03:56] <cluelessperson> Alissa, huh?
[03:56] <Alissa> cluelessperson: If you run ssh -D 1080, that'll make a SOCKS proxy on port 1080
[03:56] <Alissa> ssh -D 1080 <anyserver>
[03:56] <cluelessperson> Alissa, Run that command on the server?
[03:56] <Alissa> On the server.
[03:56] <cluelessperson> Alissa, I mean an ACTUAL proxy
[03:57] <Alissa> cluelessperson: I know exactly what I'm doing. I do the exact same thing.
[03:57] <cluelessperson> Alissa, so the server will run a constantly up socks proxy?
[03:57] <Alissa> If you run ssh in the background, yeah :D
[04:03] <cluelessperson> Anyone have suggestions for a socks5 proxy daemon?
[04:04] <esph> My laptop running 14.04 at 3.13.0-48-generic has a problem in that the mic ceases to work completely after suspend/resume. Sound output works fine after resume, and the mic works after a reboot, just not after suspending. Here's the output of arecord -l: http://sprunge.us/QhMB Anybody have an idea of what could be going wrong?
[04:05] <gh0strat> ParSalian: Well thanks for looking into it. I've been looking at it for an hour and can't figure-out why it isn't just working...
[04:05] <ParSalian> have you removed it, tried a reboot then reintall...
[04:06] <aeon-ltd> esph: is it muted after suspend in alsamixer?
[04:06] <esph> aeon-ltd: no; the settings don't change in any way I can see in either alsamixer or pavucontrol
[04:06] <gh0strat> ParSalian: No, I guess I'll give that a try. Thanks again.
[04:07] <svetlana> esph: i have same issue, apache2 and wifi stop working after a resume and i have to start them again by hand.
[04:08] <svetlana> esph: the workaround presumably is to load some relevant kernel module and try using the mic again.
[04:08] <excelsiora> Does this mean I have a swap partition or not? sudo dmsetup -v table /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 | pastebinit => http://paste.ubuntu.com/10699139/
[04:08] <esph> svetlana: unfortunately, there are like 7 sound modules which depend on eachother and all that jazz, so I think that solution would be overcomplicated at best.
[04:09] <svetlana> i see.
[04:13] <excelsiora> sudo dmsetup table /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 gives me: 0 12165120 linear 252:0 1940760576  but I'm not sure how to interpret.
[04:16] <esph> svetlana: just in case though, is there a nice way to restart modules? If I try to remove any of the snd modules, I get "Module [...] is in use."
[04:22] <excelsiora> kinda sucks that I can't get help with a optional gui enabled install option.
[04:22] <gh0strat> I'm having trouble getting a PCIe (Atheros-based) wireless card to work. Here's what dmesg has to say about it:
[04:22] <gh0strat> dmesg | grep ath9k
[04:23] <gh0strat> [    8.983185] ath9k 0000:08:00.0: Failed to initialize device
[04:23] <gh0strat> [    8.983250] ath9k: probe of 0000:08:00.0 failed with error -5
[04:23] <svetlana> esph: I use modprobe and rmmod
[04:24] <ParSalian> after installing nvidia-331 driver my screen will no longer dim, but if i restart and change screen brightness before full boot i can, anyideas
[04:26] <excelsiora> holy shit, I have swap, and I'm not sure why
[04:26] <ParSalian> also nvidia-331-update is the same
[04:27] <gh0strat> also, when I try `rfkill list all`, I don't get any output
[04:27] <excelsiora> I did this: mkswap /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1
[04:28] <excelsiora> that must have done it?
[04:29] <excelsiora> Here's the output, did I mess something up? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10699175/
[04:29] <excelsiora> specifically worried about this: mkswap: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1: warning: don't erase bootbits sectors on whole disk. Use -f to force.
[04:31] <excelsiora> is that anything to worry about?
[04:32] <askoo> please tell me how to reduce image size without loosing the quality , in ubuntu ??
[04:33] <askoo> I have a png 39 Mib and i want to reduce it under 2 mb
[04:33] <`hypermist`> why not leave it the same as
[04:33] <`hypermist`> askoo, *
[04:35] <askoo> hypermist`; the website i am uploading too requires image size less than 2 mb , it's my photo
[04:35] <`hypermist`> askoo, can you change the .jpeg
[04:35] <`hypermist`> to a .jpeg or something
[04:36] <gh0strat> askoo, you aren't going to be able to make it any smaller without losing some of the quality. 2mb sounds like .jpeg size
[04:36] <askoo> `hypermist`; it s png ! do you mean change it to jpg ?
[04:36] <excelsiora> ok, going to reboot to see if I fixed it. Wife will be happy too, she has same problem...
[04:36] <`hypermist`> Save it as a .jpg
[04:36] <excelsiora> wish me luck
[04:36] <`hypermist`> instead of a .png
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> using a image editor will have options for how compressed you want the image
[04:37] <ekaj113> i am having trouble connecting to my internet while trying out ubuntu
[04:37] <askoo> hypermist` : and how to save it as jpg ?? do you mean  from properities ?
[04:37] <`hypermist`> Nevermind askoo
[04:38] <askoo> `hypermist`: never mind what ?
[04:38] <ekaj113> can somebody help me
[04:38] <ekaj113> i am having trouble connecting to my internet while trying out ubuntu
[04:38] <`hypermist`> Just dont worry about what i am saying askoo
[04:38] <svetlana> ekaj113: details please
[04:39] <excelsiora> I feel invisible
[04:39] <aeon-ltd> askoo: do you have gimp?
[04:40] <ekaj113> svetlana: even when trying out mint i have to turn on the driver for my reciever and i did the same on ubuntu. unlike mint networks didn't just show up
[04:40] <svetlana> excelsiora: bye & good luck
[04:40] <askoo> aeon-ltd>, YES
[04:40] <excelsiora> thanks! I exist!
[04:40] <excelsiora> bye!
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> askoo: if you open the image in gimp, then export it, you will have options for compression there
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> exporting as jpeg of course
[04:41] <Alissa> Does anyone know why - on Ubuntu 14.10 - if I exit out of Skype, there's nothing on the top right corner and I can't log back in or anything?
[04:41] <svetlana> Alissa: the tray icon is missing?
[04:42] <ekaj113> svetlana: even when trying out mint i have to turn on the driver for my reciever and i did the same on ubuntu. unlike mint, networks didn't just show up where you normally select them
[04:42] <aeon-ltd> Alissa: there are probably options for that, to change close to not quit the application
[04:43] <gh0strat> Someone recommended I install the latest ath9k from backports. How do I go about doing this in 14.10?
[04:44] <maziar_> plz help me http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29316542/recover-ntfs-files-after-format-to-ext4
[04:44] <aeon-ltd> !backports
[04:44] <svetlana> ekaj113: try running ``sudo service network-manager restart'' in ubuntu and checking for the issue
[04:45] <Alissa> svetlana: Yep.
[04:45] <Alissa> aeon-ltd: I haven't changed any options and don't know why it's doing whatever it's doing
[04:45] <gh0strat> Thanks aeon-ltd, I'll check it out
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> Alissa: did it used to work as expected?
[04:45] <Alissa> Nope.
[04:46] <aeon-ltd> Alissa: then take a look through the settings
[04:46] <ekaj113> svetlana: should it work after that or do i have to do something else
[04:47] <svetlana> Alissa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362135/364307#364307 has one workaround involving installing ppa:mc3man/sacy-tests and whitelisting everything in the systray
[04:47] <svetlana> ekaj113: I personally expect the networks list to be populated after that, if everything is normal. if it isn't, check dmesg for the error message.
[04:48] <ekaj113> svetlana: i was just checking ubuntu out anyway, if i trully feel like i want to use it i will figure it out
[05:03] <BlankVerse> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/u57KRD7B
[05:03] <BlankVerse> unable to upgrade
[05:07] <rypervenche> maziar__: You another disk to extract the files to, do you have that?
[05:08] <maziar__> rypervenche, yes i have
[05:08] <daftykins> BlankVerse: "cat /etc/issue" please?
[05:08] <daftykins> paste it here, it's one line
[05:08] <daftykins> oh that's crouton
[05:09] <BlankVerse> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[05:09] <daftykins> sorry your OS isn't supported here.
[05:09] <daftykins> crouton is a modified chromebook hack, not legit.
[05:11] <rypervenche> maziar__: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[05:12] <kill_switch> should we use apt-get or aptitude
[05:12] <rypervenche> maziar__: You will want to reatore the NTFS file system if possible.
[05:12] <kill_switch> what is the difference?
[05:12] <kill_switch> sometimes I have seen that aptitude has more update then apt-get
[05:12] <maziar__> rypervenche, i hope
[05:13] <daftykins> apt-get = built in
[05:14] <daftykins> makes no sense to install extras if you can do the job with what's there
[05:14] <kill_switch> ok
[05:15] <kian> I'm trying to get the commands "xset -dpms" and "xset s off" to run at boot, so I made a .conf file located in /etc/init/xsetstuff.conf and put in "start on login-session-start", "script" "xset -dpms && xset s off" "end script" and saved
[05:15] <kian> Reboot'd however did not take effect
[05:15] <kian> I don't understand what else could go wrong
[05:22] <kk> I have installed kubunutu x64 on windows 8 laptop, UEFI mode, but I selected either "/" partition, or bios_grub partiotion(don't remember). I am able to load from usb. How can I add ubuntu to UEFI boot menu
[05:23] <saurabhdare> kk, make sure your BIOS is set to install non-UEFI OS.
[05:24] <kk> why
[05:24] <kk> The guide says it's ok to use UEFI
[05:24] <kk> and OS is installed correctly, only problem is bootloader
[05:24] <kk> I chose wrong option
[05:25] <saurabhdare> kk, you can use live stick to install grub using grub-install option.
[05:25] <kk> should I type it in term?
[05:26] <saurabhdare> kk, http://askubuntu.com/questions/74761/how-do-i-manually-install-grub
[05:26] <saurabhdare> boot from live stick/DVD and then install grub on your disk without affecting your OS.
[05:29] <kk> guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#General_principle says "set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition" and I think I need to add ubuntu record to my efi.
[05:29] <kk> (I want dual booting)
[05:30] <saurabhdare> kk, grub will handle that for you, if my *guess* is correct.
[05:30] <saurabhdare> kk, grub recognizes other OS. Dual-booting or multiple-booting will be possible.
[05:30] <DJJeff> snes9x-gtk crashed with sigabrt in g_mutex_unlockslowpath
[05:53] <DJJeff> my problem was caused by libglib 2.42
[05:53] <DJJeff> I somehow upgraded it to utopic while still running trusty
[05:54] <DJJeff> reverting back to libglib 2.40.2 solved it
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:22] <limbera> i just updated some packages on my 14.04 box
[06:22] <limbera> and supervisor has stopped working
[06:22] <limbera> anyone else experience this?
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> limbera: superviser?
[06:24] <limbera> supervisor *
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> whats that
[06:25] <limbera> it's an application
[06:25] <limbera> that manages other application daemons
[06:25] <Alissa> It's a Python-based application to help manage processes.
[06:25] <limbera> well processes
[06:25] <limbera> yeah
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> limbera: can you start from terminal to see errors?
[06:25] <Alissa> I use it myself but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not exactly 100% working right for me.
[06:25] <limbera> it's not giving me any errors
[06:25] <limbera> i have configured and used it on multiple sites before, and it always works
[06:25] <limbera> but after the latest update it just doesn't detect my config files
[06:25] <limbera> Alissa: what's wrong with your setup?
[06:26] <Alissa> limbera: It just gives random and ugly errors.
[06:26] <Alissa> I'd show examples but I've fixed it up aaages ago
[06:26] <limbera> yeah sure
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> limbera: you could try create another user, and test it from there?
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> limbera: to see if its not a config thing
[06:27] <limbera> yeh i'll give that a go now
[06:27] <limbera> although you need sudo to run it
[06:27] <limbera> so i dunno if that will do anything
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> limbera: yeah, its just a test
[06:27] <cakey> um
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> limbera: maybe 14.04 updated/removed a package that brakes supervisor?
[06:28] <limbera> mmm
[06:28] <limbera> i wish i could tell
[06:28] <limbera> it's not "broken" it's just not reading my config files
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[06:29] <brad_c> hello
[06:29] <limbera> so i assume i must be doing something wrong
[06:29] <brad_c> i am confused
[06:29] <brad_c> are there any good chat rooms
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !alis | brad_c
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> limbera: did you try: sudo service supervisord reload
[06:31] <Usman> how can I use corel draw on ubuntu?
[06:31] <Stryker> wine
[06:31] <Usman> else?
[06:31] <limbera> giving that a go no lotuspsychje
[06:31] <brad_c> or you could try gimp
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Usman: maybe its in the playonlinux database
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Usman
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> Usman: or search the wine database like Stryker suggests :p
[06:32] <Stryker> Usman: you may enjoy Krita
[06:32] <Usman> thanks.\
[06:32] <serega527> hello. pls say, how to wimax usb work on ubuntu 14.04?
[06:32] <Stryker> Usman: great program for painting. It is similar to things like SAI Paint Tool
[06:33] <ViperXL75> hi
[06:33] <Stryker> Usman, if you want the raw vector stuff, try out Inkscape
[06:33] <brad_c> hello!!!
[06:34] <limbera> if i calls apt-get remove <program>
[06:35] <limbera> will that remove all the files that it used to
[06:35] <limbera> like /etc/<program>
[06:35] <Usman> yes I want the raw vector stuff, is there any app like corel draw for ubuntu?
[06:35] <Stryker> Usman: try Inkscape
[06:35] <Usman> Thanks #Stryker
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> !purge | limbera
[06:36] <ViperXL75> I know that windows could do it. But can Ubuntu share a hdd which has a spindown time, or will it keep the HDD active continuously?
[06:37] <serega527> hello!
[06:38] <wafflejock> ViperXL75, http://askubuntu.com/questions/39760/how-can-i-control-hdd-spin-down-time
[06:40] <tsushi> Anyone know what i hotkey i just pressed?
[06:40] <tsushi> i wrote sudo-apt get install virtualbox-
[06:40] <tsushi> then i pressed something so i could see all available packages that start with virtualbox-
[06:41] <wafflejock> serega527, you can use lsusb -k, this will list all the usb devices the -k will show any kernel modules (basically drivers) loaded for your device, Google the device id (eight hex numbers separated by a colon, and your version of ubuntu)
[06:41] <wafflejock> tsushi, tab tab
[06:41] <ViperXL75> I know that windows could do it. But can Ubuntu share a hdd which has a spindown time, or will it keep the HDD active continuously?
[06:41] <wafflejock> tsushi, you may also want to checkout the command, apt-cache search packagename
[06:42] <tsushi> oh wow, that
[06:42] <wafflejock> ViperXL75, I posted a link for controlling spindown time
[06:42] <tsushi> that's amazing. Thanks wafflejock :)
[06:42] <wafflejock> tsushi, no prob
[06:43] <ViperXL75> wafflejock: oh yeah. Oops.
[06:44] <serega527> thank you. after 5 hours I will try to start it work.
[06:45] <wafflejock> ViperXL75, yeah I haven't messed with this but it appears it should work fine, I have a network attached storage (NAS) box that runs some old version of debian called Sarge that definitely does spin down the disks when it's idle and only powers up when I access it (then taking some time on initial access to spin up the disks), but I haven't messed with it on my laptop/desktop
[06:46] <wafflejock> serega527, yeah if you have problems you can try posting the device specifics from that command (if you have trouble finding the device just pastebin the output of the command and link it here)
[06:50] <serega527> if it will be useful, this wimax called Yota modem. it use in Russia also. you can find it in Google.
[06:55] <Marasgeon> greetings, I have an issue with .srt files, they are all unknown 8bit charset, so gedit doesn't display the characters right
[06:56] <Marasgeon> what can I do?
[06:56] <wafflejock> Marasgeon, grab a hex editor like bless
[06:57] <wafflejock> Marasgeon, it'll show you the hex/binary/ascii representations of all the data in a file, not sure where you're going with it though?
[06:58] <Marasgeon> wafflejock, I just want to check if the subtitles are correct
[06:58] <sumon> sumon
[07:02] <sumon> sumon ubuntu sebver
[07:02] <wafflejock> Marasgeon, hmm seems that should open okay in a regular text editor but doesn't hurt to try out bless, can just get it with sudo apt-get install bless, you may also want to check this out https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/subtitleeditor/
[07:04] <Stryker> Marasgeon, if you wouldn't mind linking me to the srt file, I could attempt a few different programs on it to see what will work with it
[07:05] <Stryker> Marasgeon, instead of gedit, I often favor geany. Perhaps that would be good to try. It is very capable for a ton of things, including programming rudimentary C/C++ files
[07:28] <Guest61946> hello
[07:28] <Guest61946> everyone
[07:29] <Guest61946>  HexChat: 2.10.0 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-23-generic i686 ** Distro: Ubuntu, ** CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU          420  @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 1.7GiB, 82.2% free ** Disk: Total: 9.2GiB, 19.1% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v2.0 Fast Ethernet ** Uptime: 3m 4s **
[07:30] <DJJeff> atheros wifi chip?
[07:31] <DJJeff> that supports packet injection for aircrack-ng
[07:31] <DJJeff>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-31-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04 ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         870  @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.93GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.8GiB, 26.6% free ** Disk: Total: 1012.7GiB, 63.6% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK106 [GeForce GTX 660] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe
[07:31] <DJJeff> Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 2w 1d 15h 55m 5s **
[07:32] <DJJeff> yours did not send the distro?
[07:38] <iceroot> hi
[07:38] <iceroot> what is daisy.ubuntu.com? Mar 29 09:29:52 alienbuntu whoopsie[795]: [09:29:52] Cannot reach: https://daisy.ubuntu.com
[07:38] <iceroot> and why is ubuntu sending something "home"?
[07:40] <svetlana> iceroot: hi.
[07:40] <svetlana> !info whoopsie
[07:40] <iceroot> svetlana: the question is why is ubuntu sending something home without asking me?
[07:41] <svetlana> iceroot: the thing submits error messages and details to the ubuntu bug tracker. I think it's meant to let you know first by means of a dialogue.
[07:41] <iceroot> svetlana: no dialogue
[07:43] <iceroot> no information that infos will be send and much more important no info WHAT will be send
[07:43] <svetlana> iceroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker has some details on how to configure it. let me know if the default is to send these reports without letting you know -- this should not happen I think.
[07:43] <iceroot> svetlana: thank you i will check the links and also the defaults
[07:46] <anates> Hei, what can I do if I presumably killed my xserver? When booting (and wanting to log in) the graphical surface is not avaliable, only the text consoles. How can I identify the problem and solve it?
[07:46] <anates> Thanks!
[07:47] <iceroot> svetlana: seems like when the "would you send the info" window is closed, it will create a *.upload file insteadof uploading it. later it will check if there is *.upload in it and will upload everything to daisy.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <iceroot> so if you cancel/kill the question-dialog a upload.file is created which is acting like a queue
[07:48] <svetlana> iceroot: sounds undesirable at best; can you please look up the package info in the package manager, find the 'file a bug' URL, and use it?
[07:49] <iceroot> svetlana: sure, but i guess ubuntu-bug packagename is also fine? or should this reported upstream instead of launchpad?
[07:49] <svetlana> both commands report to launchpad, and reporting to launchpad is fine (in case the software is configurable enough to fix it within the distro)
[07:51] <iceroot> svetlana: thank you for the support and useful input
[07:52] <lobhater> hello
[07:53] <svetlana> iceroot: no worries :-)
[07:53] <svetlana> lobhater: hi
[07:55] <aliman> googd morning everyone
[07:57] <aliman> can anyone tell me where i can learn everything about ubuntu? i just installed it and i want to know stuffs about it...is there any tutorials r something?
[07:59] <aliman> lol so many ppl online and no answer
[08:02] <Amm0n> aliman, it depends on what you want to learn.. you could start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/ or just feed google with: ubuntu searchterm
[08:04] <aliman> Amm0n_ witch is the Super buton?
[08:05] <Amm0n> aliman, its the windows key in most cases
[08:06] <aliman> Amm0n ohh thx
[08:06] <Amm0n> aliman, not explicitly ubuntu but if you want to lear you'll find many info's here: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/
[08:08] <aliman> i like this system more then windows but i need to learn it very well
[08:08] <aliman> svetlana hi :) you helped me out yesterday and i want to tkank you :) my nick was bogdan by then :)
[08:09] <bibi-23> hello, I had an empty sd card, it was getting detect when I was plugging it in my laptop. I've installed Raspian on it and now nothing happens when I plug it in. I can see this on syslog "mmc0: new ultra high speed SDR50 SDHC card at address 59b4", maybe it's not auto-mounted anymore? What can I do?
[08:09] <aliman> guy what d you think about ubuntu on phone?
[08:09] <aliman> guys*
[08:14] <aliman> Amm0n do you have any idea if i can use video call on skype? cuz i don't see any only simple call
[08:14] <Amm0n> aliman, no sry i don't use skype
[08:15] <iceroot> aliman: you can use video call on skype but skype should be avoided if possible (closed source, microsoft, usa)
[08:16] <aliman> so? what that means? is there a problem with it?
[08:16] <iceroot> aliman: from the function, no
[08:16] <iceroot> aliman: from the point of freedom, yes
[08:17] <aliman> do you mean they can track you by skype or what?
[08:18] <iceroot> aliman: you can be tracked by everything which is not encrypted. the main issue here (from my point of view) its software from the usa which is closed source, so you dont know what microsoft and the nsa are doing there, because noone is able to check what the programm is really doing on your system
[08:18] <iceroot> aliman: but there are also a lot of people which dont care about all this closed source stuff. so from the function for a video call, everything is fine and its working
[08:19] <bibi-23> when I plug a micro sd card, the following files are created "/dev/mmcblk0", "/dev/mmcblk0p1", but it's not showed when I do "df -h". Do I need to mount it or something?
[08:19] <Amm0n> iceroot, from this point you can't use any computer since most hardware is manufactured in the us ;)
[08:19] <iceroot> bibi-23: mmcblk0 is the device itself, mmcblk0p1 is the first partition (there are your files)
[08:19] <aliman> don't get upset i'm sorry but i don't understand all of those terms and my english is not that good also. i kinda don't know what you mean by closed source
[08:19] <iceroot> Amm0n: yes
[08:20] <iceroot> Amm0n: and no
[08:20] <iceroot> Amm0n: everything is manufactured in china not the us
[08:21] <iceroot> Amm0n: but its not about countries, its about not losing the control of your software and hardware. with closed source there is no single control but i am also aware that there is no 100% free system (soft and hardware) but that should not result into "then i dont care"
[08:21] <Amm0n> iceroot, i'm 100% with you
[08:22] <aliman> iceroot if i encrypt the system should i be more safe?
[08:23] <iceroot> aliman: this is not related to your skype question but if you are interested what free software and closed software is i would suggest this link https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[08:24] <iceroot> aliman: and ubuntu is free software (most parts if it)
[08:24] <bibi-23> iceroot: thanks for your help, I'm following this tutorial again (http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/linux.md), it was working when the sd card was empty but now that there is already something on the card, Ubuntu doesn't detect it anymore... What do you mean by "the files are in mmcblk0p1", I don't see anything inside (it's not a folder). Previously...
[08:24] <bibi-23> ...Ubuntu was opening a window when I was plugging the sd card, like it does for a usb stick for example.
[08:26] <iceroot> bibi-23: you can not open the files in /dev/ directly. its holding the devices and partitions and these needs to be mounted, that is what ubuntu is doing normally when you put in a new drive/card
[08:27] <iceroot> bibi-23: could you paste the last lines from the command "dmesg" which are relaed to this /dev/bb....
[08:27] <iceroot> bibi-23: /dev/mmc.. of course, sorry
[08:29] <bibi-23> iceroot: sure, do you mean this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10699743/ (dmesg | grep mmcblk0)
[08:29] <iceroot> bibi-23: please without the grep :)
[08:30] <iceroot> bibi-23: if you put in the card, maybe the last 10 lines should be reladed to this with something like "new highspeed usb device" and so on
[08:31] <bibi-23> iceroot: I've put it out and in, here were the last lines that look related : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10699753/
[08:32] <funkybro> lol
[08:32] <aliman> iceroot do you knw anything about ubuntu on phone?
[08:32] <iceroot> aliman: sorry, no
[08:34] <iceroot> bibi-23: if i am correct are these raspbian images inside a fat32 partition and ubuntu should be able to mount fat32 by default. but the lines you were pasting are not very useful (for me)
[08:34] <iceroot> or at least /boot is in fat32, dont know exactly
[08:35] <aliman> i can not send and receive files from windows on ubuntu or vice-versa on skype?
[08:36] <iceroot> !samba | aliman
[08:36] <aliman> cuz is not working for me...its like android and ios
[08:36] <iceroot> !sftp |  aliman
[08:36] <iceroot> hm, not that useful
[08:37] <iceroot> aliman: you want to transfer over the internet? or inside a local network?
[08:38] <aliman> cuz i am a truck driver i am in a gas station. and i am using wifi to talk home with my wife. i wanted to send her something
[08:39] <iceroot> aliman: if you want to use skype, you can also share files there
[08:39] <iceroot> aliman: so no need for samba, sftp or something like that. skype can do that
[08:39] <iceroot> aliman: http://www.skypelive.com/de/features/send-files/
[08:39] <aliman> i tried to send a pic on skype and my wife tried to do that to but we did not received them
[08:40] <bibi-23> iceroot: hum I don't know what kind of partition it's inside, can't I flash it to remove anything on it? Apparently it's getting detected, so maybe there is a solution...
[08:40] <iceroot> bibi-23: so you want to wipe it and create a new partiton for your later rasbpian installation?
[08:40] <iceroot> !gparted | bibi-23
[08:41] <iceroot> bibi-23: sudo apt-get install gparted  and then type gksudo gparted, select your mmc device and check the partitons there and create a new one or delete an existing one
[08:41] <iceroot> bibi-23: but dont act on the /dev/sd devices, that are your hard disc,so select the /dev/mmc stuff
[08:42] <Amm0n> bibi-23, can you paste the output of lsblk -f?
[08:42] <bibi-23> iceroot: yeah whatever that allows me to make it readable again by Ubuntu, I'll try it thanks
[08:43] <iceroot> Amm0n: first use the command from Amm0n so that we can see what is on the device
[08:43] <bibi-23> Amm0n: sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10699808/
[08:43] <iceroot> bibi-23: seems like there is a partition without a file-system
[08:46] <Amm0n> bibi-23, pls paste sudo blkid instead
[08:46] <bibi-23> iceroot: so I'd better use gparted to erase everything? It's not a problem there is only a previous fresh raspian installation. But I think I didn't do it properly that's why I'd like to retry.
[08:47] <Amm0n> bibi-23, if you don't want to use raspian, wipe it
[08:47] <Amm0n> no need to paste then
[08:48] <Amm0n> nvm.. :)
[08:52] <bibi-23> iceroot: yep definitely something wrong, with the graphic tool I see some info (http://paste.ubuntu.com/10699838/). By deleting the existing one, you mean right click on the /dev/mmm... and "Delete"?
[08:54] <iceroot> bibi-23: just select /dev/mmc in the right upper corner, then dev/mmc...p1 should be in the list. right click and create new file-system
[08:54] <iceroot> bibi-23: if it is onlynfor linux, use ext4, if it is for rasbian i guess fat32 was needed, if you want to use it on windows as well, use ntfs
[08:56] <Amm0n> bibi-23, you want to try to dd the raspian again?
[08:58] <Amm0n> and why do you want to access it from ubuntu?
[08:58] <bibi-23> iceroot: there is no such thing available in the list (most of them are light grey unclickable), I can do "Delete", "Resize remove", "Format to", "Information"
[08:59] <bibi-23> Amm0n: because somehow the raspberry doesn't do anything when I plug it into it, I'm sure I've followed all their instructions properly but I'd like to retry, maybe something went wrong.
[09:00] <iceroot> bibi-23: format to
[09:01] <Amm0n> ok, if you want to retry with dd you don't need to create partitions.. dd will wipe all partitions anyways
[09:02] <Amm0n> i'd try as recommended in your guide to dd with 1M instead of 4M
[09:02] <Amm0n> sry iceroot xD
[09:03] <bibi-23> Amm0n: oh ok great to know thanks, so I'll try again, yeah... because the book about it says 2M but their online page 4M, I've used 4M at the time, maybe if I lower it it writes in a safer way
[09:08] <bibi-23> Amm0n: I'm trying again with 2M, then I'll do 1M if it still doesn't work. Anyway thank you very much for your help :)
[09:09] <Amm0n> yw, there are channels for raspberry on freenode too
[09:09] <melvincv> How to configure xrdp (using only the RDP protocol and not VNC) in Linux Mint? I'm at a loss after googling this...
[09:09] <Amm0n> i can't help you with that
[09:10] <melvincv> I'm running "Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca"
[09:11] <melvincv> and it's the KDE version
[09:12] <Amm0n> melvincv, rdp sux try x2go or NX No Machine
[09:14] <aliman> Amm0n are you here?
[09:14] <Amm0n> aliman, yup
[09:15] <melvincv> Amm0n: thanks, i'll try the tutorials
[09:15] <AkashicLegend> where do I see the multiple cores when I press 1 with top command
[09:15] <AkashicLegend> I don't notice anything
[09:15] <DasEi> SquRoFL: so you get a gui, but very laggy on a brandnew install,, right?
[09:16] <aliman> do you have any clue if i need to set my mic on skype or something? cuz i just called someone and he could not hear me. i did but he did not. and btw video call is working but the person i call can not hear me
[09:16] <AkashicLegend> well I notice something
[09:16] <AkashicLegend> I just can't tell how many cores on here from using tops
[09:16] <AkashicLegend> top*
[09:17] <Amm0n> aliman, sry mate i can't help you with skype
[09:17] <melvincv> my senior system admin had done some voodoo in the top command - now it does not respond on pressing 1 (CentOS)
[09:17] <SquRoFL> DasEi: yeah
[09:18] <SquRoFL> what's happening is basically the (my user here) and guest selection screen
[09:18] <SquRoFL> is being weird.
[09:18] <SquRoFL> itt'l go to the purpleorange screen with dots and ubuntu logo in the center, ubuntu 14.04 LTS bottom left
[09:19] <SquRoFL> and if i press enter, logs me in as guest.
[09:19] <svetlana> is it a live cd?
[09:19] <SquRoFL> nope.
[09:19] <SquRoFL> installed on HDD from the liveCD
[09:19] <DasEi> SquRoFL: so try to boot safemode next, do a full update/grade (has to be connected to inet OC), dry a dpkg-reconfigure on xorg, look at syslog for additional hints
[09:19] <svetlana> are you sure it is booting from the hard drive?
[09:19] <melvincv> unfortunately he is also the CEO of another company (and a consultant here) So I can't really go to him with doubts :(
[09:19] <SquRoFL> yes.
[09:20] <SquRoFL> no CD/usb in there.
[09:20] <svetlana> ok does the user you specified exist? type ``id usernamehere'', replacing usernamehere with the username you specified during install
[09:20] <SquRoFL> it does exist.
[09:20] <SquRoFL> it's at my login prompt before it dissapears
[09:21] <svetlana> so there is a login screen but it disappears before you get to log in as your desired user?
[09:21] <SquRoFL> yes.
[09:21] <svetlana> ok, what i woud do is this: try to press ctrl+alt+f1, log in, type 'startx' there, and go to settings to disable guest login
[09:21] <svetlana> then reboot and try again
[09:21] <svetlana> (backup data first, if any)
[09:22] <svetlana> (just in case we have to reinstall later)
[09:22] <SquRoFL> login password?
[09:22] <svetlana> yes
[09:22] <svetlana> login is the username you specified during install
[09:22] <SquRoFL> typiung my password i set up during setup does not work./
[09:22] <svetlana> odd
[09:22] <SquRoFL> yeah
[09:23] <svetlana> from within guest session, type 'sudo passwd usernamehere'. does guest have root access?
[09:23] <svetlana> (passwd is a command name, not a password)
[09:23] <SquRoFL> wait
[09:24] <SquRoFL> it was user then password hur dur
[09:24] <svetlana> hehehe
[09:24] <SquRoFL> now i'm at a term
[09:24] <DasEi> svetlana: , SquRoFL, ctrl~alt~F1 leads to same init as  safemode, FYI, else see above
[09:24] <SquRoFL> how do start guio again
[09:24]  * DasEi leans back
[09:24] <svetlana> cool, try 'startx'
[09:24] <SquRoFL> blaaaackscreen.
[09:24] <SquRoFL> after startx
[09:24] <SquRoFL> wait
[09:24] <SquRoFL> loading
[09:25] <svetlana> give it time, then switch back to ctrl+alt+f1, press ctrl+c, try again ... ah there we go
[09:25] <svetlana> ok now you have to find settings window and disable guest login there
[09:25] <SquRoFL> i think this single core atom box isn't beefy enough for ubuntu imo
[09:25] <svetlana> no, it's alright, startx is supposed to be slow
[09:25] <aliman> why is it amazon preinstalled on ubuntu?
[09:25] <svetlana> (it's loading all the graphics stuff from scratch, so..)
[09:25] <bekks> Amazon isnt preinstalled on Ubuntu.
[09:26] <SquRoFL> it's stuck at the orangepurple desktop background with the * tessalation
[09:26] <svetlana> aliman: more specific please, do you mean the web browser search engines?
[09:26] <SquRoFL> HOw slow?
[09:26] <svetlana> just 5 seconds should be ok
[09:26] <aliman> yes. when i install ubuntu and i start it on the menu bar there is amazon icon
[09:26] <SquRoFL> been 60
[09:26] <svetlana> try to switch back to ctrl+alt+f1 , ctrl+c, run startx again
[09:26] <svetlana> aliman: err what version
[09:27] <aliman> 14.04 LTS
[09:27] <svetlana> aliman: I have to fall over and leave it to others; first time I hear and I've been not using the 'menu bar' thing for a while now
[09:27] <svetlana> aliman: so hold on :)
[09:27] <mehdi> hey guys when my system boots up instead of having ubuntu only it shows something like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/U39zl.jpg
[09:28] <aliman> if i do a screenshot how can i show you?
[09:28] <svetlana> mehdi: that's not boot, that's shutdown (without poweroff). try to power it off and boot again.
[09:28] <svetlana> aliman: upload it to www.imgur.com
[09:28] <bekks> aliman: Just upload it to an image hoster,
[09:29] <mehdi> svetlana, well it happens on both when u shutting it down and starting up
[09:29] <mehdi> that was just an example
[09:29] <mehdi> i didnt get the picture
[09:29] <svetlana> mehdi: does it boot successfully into a login screen?
[09:30] <mehdi> yes but i wanted to in only shows "UBUNTU" not the screen like that
[09:30] <svetlana> mehdi: ok, that sounds fair enough. give me a minute.
[09:30] <mehdi> tanx
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[09:31] <bekks> mehdi: And is there 13.04 mentioned too, on your screen?
[09:31] <shark> what ?
[09:31] <mehdi> well mine is 14.04
[09:31] <bekks> mehdi: ah, fine.
[09:31] <mehdi> and im waiting to upgrade to 15.04
[09:32] <aliman> Amm0n   http://i.imgur.com/1M6ejQ5.jpg?1
[09:32] <aliman> it is right under ubuntu software center
[09:33] <svetlana> mehdi: I think you have to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and replace 'text' with 'splash'. if there is no 'text', just add 'splash'. in the ``linux blabla blabla root=blabla ro somethinghere'' line at the end
[09:33] <bekks> aliman: you can see the amazon search en on the left, not "Amazon is installed".
[09:33] <bekks> aliman: In case you dont want it, you can easily disable it.
[09:33] <svetlana> mehdi: you can pastebin the file (old and new versions) if you would like me to read through it before you save it
[09:34] <aliman> bekks how can i disable it?
[09:34] <bekks> aliman: Click on the Ubuntu button, search for "Privacy" and then turn off "Include online results" .
[09:34] <aliman> i just pres unlock from luncher?
[09:34] <bekks> No.
[09:35] <aliman> i just did that bekks but the amazon icon is still there
[09:35] <bekks> aliman: The icon will remain there.
[09:36] <bekks> aliman: but the functionality that amazon is used to search for online results is disabled now.
[09:36] <mehdi> sure
[09:36] <aliman> ohh ok
[09:36] <svetlana> mehdi: (I am assuming you already tried ``sudo apt-get install plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo'' and ``sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth''. if you didn't, you may want to do it first)
[09:36] <mehdi> svetlana, no i didnt
[09:37] <svetlana> right. I would suggest to do it first and reboot to test it. if it doesn't work, we'll edit the grub file.
[09:41] <mehdi> svetlana, and which part should i change in grub.cfg?
[09:42] <svetlana> in the block for your ubuntu, change the line which starts with 'linux' (pastebin both old and new version before saving the new one)
[09:42] <mehdi> i havent change it yet
[09:43] <svetlana> oh, sorry, I'm lagging behind. can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub file, please?
[09:43] <vespakoen> Hey, anyone on a Macbook 6,1 (2010 - 17 inch) ?
[09:43] <mehdi> set linux_gfx_mode=text  is this one?
[09:43] <svetlana> (no, we should not edit the first file I named, it'll get overwritten)
[09:44] <ablest1980> hi i go too a website and not all images show i think they are gif im using firefox
[09:44] <mehdi> svetlana,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10700050/
[09:45] <svetlana> wrong file, I mean not /boot/grub/grub.conf, I mean /etc/default/grub
[09:45] <ablest1980> ubuntu got it own pastebin cool
[09:45] <ablest1980> :D
[09:45] <svetlana> err I again was looking at the wrong paste
[09:45] <svetlana> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" <-- this looks ok
[09:46] <ablest1980> how do i get all images from a website to show in firefox?
[09:46] <svetlana> mehdi: if this is the old version, I think we have to go back to the other two lines I suggested -- installing plymouth and setting it as default
[09:46] <mehdi> ok letme try those
[09:47] <mehdi> svetlana, how can i change the picture for splash?
[09:47] <svetlana> ablest1980: from a whole website, or from a currently open web page?
[09:47] <vespakoen> ablest1980, this maybe: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4602153/how-do-i-use-wget-to-download-all-images-into-a-single-folder
[09:47] <DasEi> login=loginmanger;setmode=bootmanager   ;)
[09:48] <ablest1980> some of the images doesnt show from a website
[09:48] <ablest1980> i think they are gif
[09:48] <mehdi> svetlana,  which one http://paste.ubuntu.com/10700072/?
[09:48] <vespakoen> ablest1980, have you got a link of the page in question?
[09:48] <svetlana> mehdi: you have to edit /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth and specify your image path there (someone correct me if I'm wrong and there is a setting for this in the settings window)
[09:49] <svetlana> checking
[09:49] <mehdi>  no
[09:49] <vespakoen> reboot brb
[09:49] <ablest1980> yes but you need to have an account to see what i am talking about
[09:49] <ablest1980> the site is www.gedforfree.com
[09:50] <mehdi> svetlana, remove the question mark
[09:50] <svetlana> mehdi: um, 0 or 2 should work. I would leave it as is, reboot, if it doesn't work then try another one. (and report a bug to the plumouth package about such weird duplicate in the list)
[09:54] <mehdi> svetlana, i had this problem once when i installed mint there was an app for changing a boot resolution and that fixed it
[09:54] <mehdi> donno about ubnutu
[09:54] <arcx> svet,a a
[09:54] <svetlana> mehdi: yeah, I'm just wondering whether it installed a new package when you asked it to install plymouth thingy
[09:55] <mehdi> tanx anyway
[09:55] <svetlana> I think we have 2 unanswered questions :)
[09:55] <svetlana> hi arcx
[09:55] <arcx> that was wrong placement of fingers on the keyboard...
[09:56] <svetlana> mehdi: [ 1) did it install a new package or was it already installed 2) did you try 0, did you try 2, did any of them work when you try to reboot ]
[09:56] <svetlana> ah ok arcx, no worries
[09:57] <mehdi> svetlana, it was long time ago on mint 9 if i not mistaken it no big deal
[09:57] <arcx> I am still looking for a solution how to fix my ubuntu 14.04: Somehow I have no graphical surface when booting up, i.e. I can login in the text consoles, but when changing to the GUI, the screen stays black. I assume that I killed the xserver somehow, or deleted an important package. How can I fix that?
[09:57] <svetlana> mehdi: I mean on this ubuntu box
[09:58] <mehdi> well in ubuntu i havent tried anything yet
[09:58] <svetlana> it would be a good idea to try. the configs you pasted are from ubuntu, right?
[10:02] <svetlana> mehdi: good luck -- I'll disappear for a few hours in a few minutes, but I am sure that you'll figure it out
[10:02] <mehdi> svetlana, take care
[10:07] <drox> buongiorno a tutti il comando per installare il kernel realtime è sudo apt-get install linux-loelatecy o sudo apt-get install linux-rt ? grazie
[10:08] <drox> *linux-lowlatecy
[10:08] <drox> *linux-lowlatency
[10:11] <SquRoFL> drox: no hable espanol
[10:11] <SquRoFL> habla*
[10:12] <arcx> You can translate it easily: What is the command for installing the realtime-kernel? install linux-lowlatency or linux-rt?
[10:14] <drox> exscume i know to be in channel ubuntu-it
[10:15] <drox> SquRoFL, can you to help me?
[10:16] <cluelessperson> Anyone here know how to properly install an ubuntu server?
[10:17] <cluelessperson> these people keep mentioning creating another user and messing with files you shouldn't have to touch
[10:17] <svetlana> drox: you are in #ubuntu-it now I think.
[10:18] <drox> svetlana, yes thanks alot
[10:18] <svetlana> cluelessperson: I go with the stock install and then follow  https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/  (much of it applies to ubuntu as well).
[10:19] <cluelessperson> svetlana, I accidentally a word
[10:19] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know how to properly install a teamspeak server?
[10:19] <svetlana> OH
[10:20] <svetlana> can you avoid doing this? it's proprietary software, and unless you have clients, it's best to move to something else.
[10:20] <danbower> i installed 14.02 over my 12.10 using the live CD. when i reboot my PC i get dropped into grub rescue. if i explicitly pick the boot device, i can get up grub and boot into ubuntu but unfortunately windows starts to load then just resets. any suggestions on how to fix this particular problem?
[10:20] <danbower> i've tried using boot-repair but it complains about not being in UEFI mode.
[10:22] <mihaijulien> Hello!
[10:22] <cluelessperson> svetlana, like what?
[10:23] <cluelessperson> svetlana, and yes, I have clients
[10:23] <svetlana> cluelessperson: how many?
[10:23] <cluelessperson> svetlana, 50 or so, usually about 10 at a time
[10:23] <svetlana> and what activity do you want to do with them?
[10:23] <svetlana> roughly
[10:23] <cluelessperson> svetlana, We do gaming.
[10:23] <cluelessperson> svetlana, the community is open to pretty much everyone.
[10:24] <svetlana> gaming over 1 shared screen? or how does it work?
[10:24] <cluelessperson> svetlana, it's teamspeak.   audio/headsets/mic sort of thing.
[10:24] <svetlana> or a game which uses teamspeak for voice communication?
[10:24] <svetlana> ah I see
[10:24] <cluelessperson> svetlana, We use the higher quality continuous voice of teamspeak for team play.
[10:25] <svetlana> I might suggest using tox or an SIP client for it. it should work for audio chat.
[10:25] <svetlana> what OS do the gamers use, how would you say?
[10:27] <cluelessperson> svetlana, Windows.
[10:27] <aliman_> can anyone tell me if i can make the luncher disappear and use the icons on the desktop like on windows?
[10:27] <cluelessperson> svetlana, Most gamers already use teamspeak or similar, I won't move to something else.
[10:27] <bazhang> http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-teamspeak-3-in-ubuntu-14-04/ cluelessperson
[10:28] <bazhang> svetlana, cluelessperson what os games use, etc, please take to #ubuntu-offtopic , thanks
[10:28] <svetlana> cluelessperson: ah ok. I think you would be best following teamspeak install instructions from its official website then. if there's a specific instruction which makes no sense to you, just ask here.
[10:28] <cluelessperson> bazhang, this is on topic, we really don't need you micromanaging, thanks.
[10:29] <danbower> can someone please tell me if i'm at least likely to be able to rescue my windows partition? all this EFI stuff is new to me.
[10:29] <svetlana> cluelessperson: it was my fault for distracting to discussion of what to switch to. please don't counter attack people.
[10:29] <bazhang> cluelessperson, I just gave the link on how to install it, please have a look
[10:29] <cluelessperson> svetlana, don't worry about him, it's not neccessary to be anal
[10:29] <svetlana> cluelessperson: this is not interesting to me. what is interesting is where you are stuck.
[10:30] <cluelessperson> danbower, symptoms?
[10:30] <bazhang> danbower, you followed the upgrade guide, or just installed directly over the 12.10 by altering the sources.list
[10:30] <danbower> if by "upgrade guide", you mean the install wizard that says something liek "uninstall 12.04 and reinstall" then yes i used that
[10:30] <falematte> Hey guys! Anyone knows if there is somewhere a free linux server to execute simple scripts? Thank you
[10:31] <cluelessperson> danbower, what's going wrong exactly?
[10:31] <danbower> i booted up the live CD to see if it would have any obvious problems with my hardware and it seemed alright so i started the installation process
[10:31] <bazhang> danbower, it was from 12.04 to 14.04?
[10:32] <svetlana> falematte: dmoz.org, look for 'unix shell provider', there's a few free ones. none are endorsed by ubuntu though. not all of them run ubuntu either -- check it on their websites.
[10:33] <danbower> cluelessperson, the installation went fine but on reboot i get grub rescue. something about an unknown device. however if i get up my BIOS boot menu i can pick the actual harddrive (a partition of windows 7 and ubuntu) and get up grub. ubuntu boots but windows starts then the system just resets
[10:33] <anonymous2> hello, how can I install psybnc?
[10:33] <danbower> i've tried using boot-repair but it complains about being in legacy mode. i've tried enabling EUFI but only difference is that i now can't see the mounted drives (windows 7 and some storage disc i use)
[10:33] <aliman_> svetlana ?
[10:33] <bekks> !info psybnc
[10:34] <danbower> bazhang, whichever the last LTS was. 12 something
[10:34] <svetlana> aliman_: hi
[10:34] <bazhang> danbower, 12.04 and 14.04 are LTS
[10:34] <aliman_> svetlana can you pls tell me if there is any way to make the luncher disappear and use the icon like windows does?
[10:34] <svetlana> cluelessperson: (people who are alzy to package stuff for ubuntu occasionaly make instructions which make you edit files by hand. it's nice to know what they mean, so I'd be glad to explain any step)
[10:34] <danbower> right. it was from 12.04 to 14.04 then
[10:35] <svetlana> aliman_: sorry, trouble following. I don't know how windows works after 2002. launcher where?
[10:35] <cluelessperson> svetlana, thanks for your help, I'll do more googling
[10:35] <cluelessperson> danbower, do you have usb still plugged in?
[10:36] <danbower> i used the livecd
[10:36] <cluelessperson> danbower, is it still in when the unknown device error occurs?
[10:36] <danbower> nope, i removed it when the installation completed and the tray popped open
[10:37] <bhavesh> Are sudo apt install * and sudo apt-get install * both same?
[10:37] <bhavesh> Or Apt means aptitude?
[10:38] <danbower> i have looked on google a fair bit but i can't find someone with this particular problem. i.e. grub rescue on boot but can access grub if i pick the actual hard drive from the boot menu. ubuntu works but windows doesn't...
[10:38] <bekks> bhavesh: apt is not a valid command.
[10:38] <danbower> absolutely no warnings during the install that something like this might happen. i thought i was pretty safe installing over ubuntu..
[10:38] <bhavesh> bekks: oh it must be a mint command then.
[10:39] <Mandeep_Singh> bekks, but it works in ubuntu
[10:39] <Mandeep_Singh> just tried
[10:40] <bekks> Mandeep_Singh: Didnt know that. TIL. Thank you :)
[10:42] <Mandeep_Singh> :)
[10:44] <aliman_> svetlana luncher is the left menu bar you know?
[10:44] <bhavesh> So they both are same?
[10:44] <aliman_> where you have all your icons
[10:44] <bekks> bhavesh: apt and apt-get are different commands.
[10:44] <aliman_> talking bout that
[10:44] <bhavesh> bekks: hmm, the format of output looks similar.
[10:44] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know how to add a local public key to the user/.ssh/authorized_keys   file?
[10:44] <cluelessperson> I can't add it because it's hidden it seems
[10:45] <bekks> bhavesh: similar, but not identical.
[10:45] <svetlana> aliman_: ah. that's unity. I don't use it (I uninstalled it). wait for someone here to answer, ask again with all details if you like - you can post screenshot to www.imgur.com and link to it here.
[10:45] <archip> cluelessperson: cat key.pub /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:45] <archip> cluelessperson: cat key.pub > /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:45] <bekks> cluelessperson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[10:45] <aliman_> svetlana ok thx
[10:46] <bhavesh> bekks: k
[10:46] <cluelessperson> bekks, archip   no such file or directory
[10:47] <aliman_> lol #ubuntuforum is quiet inactive
[10:47] <cluelessperson> sudo cat zachary/freeom.pub >> freedom/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:47] <bekks> cluelessperson: When doing what?
[10:47] <bekks> cluelessperson: And whats the exact output?
[10:47] <svetlana> aliman_: the channel is dedicated to website maintainance issues I think. maybe discussion of forum questions themselves but I'm not particularly sure about that.
[10:47] <cluelessperson> -bash: freedom/.ssh/authorized_keys: No such file or directory
[10:47] <bekks> cluelessperson: So that file does not exist.
[10:48] <archip> cluelessperson: cd /home/user && mkdir .ssh
[10:48] <aliman_> svetlana is there any addon or something that hides all the adds on web?
[10:48] <cluelessperson> h:
[10:49] <svetlana> aliman_: yes, try ublock
[10:49] <cluelessperson> zachary@pine:/home$ sudo cat zachary/freedom.pub >> freedom/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:49] <cluelessperson> -bash: freedom/.ssh/authorized_keys: Permission denied
[10:49] <cluelessperson> bekks, archip    nope.
[10:49] <svetlana> cause you are not logged in as 'freedom'
[10:49] <bekks> cluelessperson: sudo will have no effect on >>
[10:49] <aliman_> can i use sudo apt-get install ublock or it's a little bit more complicated?
[10:49] <svetlana> but you're trying to add a file to its homedir
[10:49] <svetlana> aliman_: firefox has its own addon manager
[10:49] <cluelessperson> svetlana, I can't, logins are disabled, only key authentication is allowed.
[10:49] <svetlana> ok
[10:49] <bekks> cluelessperson: cat zachary/freedom.pub | sudo tee -a freedom/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:49] <svetlana> huh, neat :-)
[10:50] <aliman_> svetlana is ublock or addblock?
[10:50] <svetlana> ublock is a written from scratch, faster adblock. but adblock plus also works.
[10:51] <aliman_> svetlana i writed ublock in the add-on search bar but found nothing but adblock
[10:51] <aliman_> that's why i asked
[10:52] <aliman_> archip ?
[10:53] <archip> aliman_: ?
[10:53] <aliman_> archip hi
[10:53] <archip> hey
[10:54] <aliman_> archip i just wanted to thank you for helping me out yesterday. i had the nick bogdan :)
[10:54] <archip> ah np
[10:54] <svetlana> aliman_: try adblock then. their ad lists are compatible anyway so if you want to move later then it'll be easy.
[10:54] <Amm0n> µblock not ublock
[10:55] <svetlana> i can't type that. yes it has the greek letter.
[10:56] <aliman_> archip i don't know what's the prob, but when i call someone on skype he cannot hear me. and my mic doesn't have any prob. he/she can hear me but extremly low level almost muted
[10:56] <archip> aliman_: check the audio level on the sound settings?
[10:57] <aliman_> Amm0n i did searched for µblock but still nothing
[10:57] <aliman_> archip i did that and is all ok
[10:58] <archip> aliman_: check it with a recording software like audacity, if its fine there its something on skypes end which I cant help you with
[10:58] <ThetaOrionis> aliman_: s it amplified properly? I mean, have you set the input level to 100%?
[10:58] <aliman_> Theta0rionis is ok is 100%
[10:59] <aliman_> Theta0rionis and i have no cables or something is just the laptop mi
[10:59] <aliman_> mic
[10:59] <ThetaOrionis> Hm, sounds like a problem with skype itself, as archip says.
[10:59] <aliman_> on windows was working just fine
[11:10] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, does anyone know how to install teamspeak on debian/ubuntu well?
[11:10] <cluelessperson> All the tutorials I've found have been crap.
[11:11] <jellow> !teamspeak | cluelessperson
[11:11] <celexi> cluelessperson
[11:11] <celexi> how are you doing it ?
[11:12] <Tin_man> https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-a-teamspeak-server-on-ubuntu
[11:12] <celexi> i think he wants the client
[11:12] <celexi> not the server
[11:12] <Tin_man> oh well i tried.. :)
[11:13] <celexi> as far i remember teamspeak is in ubuntu repos
[11:13] <jellow> yes it is called 'teamspeak-client"
[11:13] <aliman> what is teamspeak for ?
[11:14] <celexi> its a voip client mostly designed for groups
[11:14] <aliman> voip?
[11:14] <SquRoFL> teamspeak: videoless multi-person group skyp[e chat but it doesn't suck like skype.
[11:14] <jellow> aliman:  teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software, similar to muble but non free
[11:15] <SquRoFL> Voice Over IP
[11:15] <aliman> so you need to pay for it or what?
[11:15] <cluelessperson> celexi, the tutorials I've found are lengthy, require another user made, and dealing with a bunch of BS I feel is a waste of time
[11:15] <SquRoFL> client is free, what costs is to run a server.
[11:15] <celexi> mumble is generally better but a lot of people have a hardon for teamspeak for uknown reasons
[11:15] <SquRoFL> unless you run one yoursel;f, then it's free.
[11:15] <cluelessperson> aliman, SquRoFL   It's free.
[11:15] <aliman> aaaa ok. why do you say skype is crap?
[11:15] <celexi> cluelessperson sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client
[11:15] <cluelessperson> celexi, "server"
[11:15] <jellow> cluelessperson: clarify what you're trying to do install the client or server?
[11:16] <SquRoFL> aliman: crappy linux support, bad voice codec, etc.
[11:16] <cluelessperson> celexi, aliman jellow   Bad Voice Codec?
[11:16] <cluelessperson> It's free
[11:16] <SquRoFL> skype doesn't support stereo sudio even
[11:16] <cluelessperson> only commercializing it costs money
[11:16] <SquRoFL> audio*
[11:16] <celexi> i didn't say anything about skype
[11:17] <aliman> so what should i use? i am a truck driver and i need to talk home. but my wife uses her galaxy s4 and she has skype. what can we both use and is not crappy?
[11:17] <celexi> if you use chrome or chromium
[11:17] <celexi> hangouts
[11:17] <aliman> celexi i did talked about skype
[11:17] <SquRoFL> a phone
[11:17] <SquRoFL> "my wife has a cell phone. i need to talk to her."
[11:17] <cluelessperson> First.   Teamspeak Servers are free, unless you use a 3rd party server.  Teamspeak is free to user and run, unless you commercialize it.  Their codecs are actually pretty good, very little latency, and it's easy to use.
[11:18] <cluelessperson> aliman, Phones are crappy, probably because of monopolies.
[11:18] <celexi> hangouts or imessage are usually the best working these days
[11:18] <aliman> SquRoFL i was thinking for something cheapper :))
[11:18] <SquRoFL> you don;t have unlimited talk?
[11:18] <cluelessperson> celexi, I REFUSE to use google hangouts or anything related to google plus
[11:18] <aliman> nop
[11:18] <SquRoFL> those kinds of plans still exist?
[11:18] <cluelessperson> I will not be forced.
[11:18] <SquRoFL> i thougth everyone had unlim talk nowadays
[11:18] <celexi> well he probabyl wants to video also
[11:19] <celexi> so those unlimited minutes will be useless for that
[11:19] <aliman> well i do have that but only when i am in my country. not on roaming
[11:19] <SquRoFL> well, teamspeak does not do video.
[11:19] <celexi> well cluelessperson
[11:19] <celexi> and aliman
[11:19] <celexi> there is also viber
[11:19] <aliman> celexi ??
[11:19] <celexi> i believe viber has a linux client
[11:20] <celexi> and telegram but i have no idea if telegram has voip
[11:20] <celexi> anyway im out !
[11:20] <SquRoFL> seeya
[11:20] <jellow> !voip | for anyone interested in alternatives
[11:20] <aliman> yes man i know that i usually use whatsapp actualy but i was talking about something that i can use video call you know? thats why i chosed skype
[11:20] <cluelessperson> Teamspeak is extremely popular in the gaming community, I have a large user base already on my servers.
[11:20] <SquRoFL> aliman: if you're using linux, good luck getting skype video to work
[11:20] <cluelessperson> I'm not going to swap servers without a very good reason.
[11:21] <SquRoFL> unless it works now, used to not work.
[11:21] <celexi> works fine for me
[11:21] <celexi> but i am on fedora not ubuntu not sure if its broken there
[11:21] <SquRoFL> huh, okay
[11:21] <dasjoe> cluelessperson: you don't want to set up teamspeak, but refuse to acknowledge that and still want to use it
[11:21] <aliman> SquRoFL i use skype and video call works just fine now but the prob is that the person i talk with cannot hear me i don't know whats the prob.
[11:22] <SquRoFL> audio settings in skype, possibly your mic isnt set up.
[11:22] <cluelessperson> dasjoe, That's not what I said.  I said that the existing tutorials I've found are poorly done, and was asking if anyone else had managed it.
[11:22] <jellow> aliman: look at wiki you need to mess around with pulseaudio and alsa
[11:22] <dasjoe> cluelessperson: so, just set up mumble which not only is free, but open-source, too
[11:22] <SquRoFL> options > audio settings or something similar, make sure your mic works
[11:22] <aliman> SquRoFL i set it up and is all ok
[11:22] <dasjoe> Also, its positional audio plugins are awesome ;)
[11:23] <aliman> SquRoFL esti roman?
[11:23] <cluelessperson> dasjoe, I have a player base of over 100 players that play on my server regularly, I'm not just changing to mumble without a very good reason
[11:23] <cluelessperson> Stop recommending mumble, not happening.
[11:23] <dasjoe> cluelessperson: "Teamspeak is a hassle to install and I can't find a good tutorial" is a pretty good reason
[11:23] <SquRoFL> everyone! (besidesaliman) he's looking for video chat, skype is broken, and he's literally just looking for a decent linux-and-android client that does okay video chat
[11:24] <SquRoFL> not how to set up a teamspeak/mumbe/etc server.
[11:24] <cluelessperson> dasjoe, I didn't say that.  I said that people seem not to have produced proper installations for it yet.
[11:24] <aliman> SquRoFL yeah thx
[11:24] <jellow> cluelessperson: it is in repo it is just a matter of running apt-get install
[11:25] <SquRoFL> he doesn't seem like the kind of person that'd want to ruin a server just to call home.
[11:25] <SquRoFL> run*
[11:25] <aliman> yeah haha right
[11:25] <SquRoFL> ther's ooVoo, but good luck with that on linux
[11:25] <SquRoFL> nope.
[11:26] <SquRoFL> also, aliman: what's the reason for the no google?
[11:27] <aliman> what do you mean?
[11:28] <SquRoFL> why don't you wanna use hangouts?
[11:28] <SquRoFL> it's fantastic.
[11:29] <aliman> can i use video on hangouts?
[11:29] <SquRoFL> yes
[11:29] <SquRoFL> very well.
[11:29] <SquRoFL> better than skype even.
[11:29] <aliman> well...i didn't know that
[11:29] <SquRoFL> that's the entire point of hangouts lmfao
[11:30] <aliman> i have that on my nexus 6 i use hangouts for masseging and whatsapp as well but didn't know hangouts uses video call
[11:30] <SquRoFL> yeah, just add your wife on google+, then switch her convo to hangouts and not SMS when you wanan do a video call.
[11:30] <SquRoFL> press the camera icon to do a video call.
[11:31] <aliman> hangouts is only for android or can it be used on ubuntu?
[11:31] <SquRoFL> it's web-based.
[11:31] <SquRoFL> http://www.google.com/hangouts/
[11:32] <lewis1711> when I restart my computer, or when the computer sleeps, I have to manually connect to my wireless network. "Automatically connect to this network when available" is enabled. any ideas?
[11:32] <aliman> i need chrome for hangouts
[11:32] <cluelessperson> SquRoFL, Because google attempted to force usage of google plus
[11:33] <cluelessperson> SquRoFL, They should have been sued out of their minds for buying youtube, and forcing everyone to full accounts on another service.  That should be considered some sort of fraud.
[11:33] <SquRoFL> lewis1711 fsck -f -y /dev/hdb1
[11:33] <SquRoFL> who did they defraud?
[11:34] <cluelessperson> SquRoFL, maybe fraud isn't the right term, doesn't matter.
[11:34] <SquRoFL> how is skype any better? microsoft bought them, now required a windows live ID
[11:34] <bazhang> !ot | cluelessperson SquRoFL
[11:34] <SquRoFL> same damn shit
[11:34] <dreamcat4> hello. i am having trouble with file permissions on core files. it won't save them to a folder unless that folder is chmod 777....
[11:34] <jellow> SquRoFL: I'm still a newb but how does fsck help with lewis1711 wireless problem ?
[11:35] <Paradisee> hello
[11:35] <cluelessperson> SquRoFL, They didn't create a windows live account for you, and my old skype credentials still work fine.
[11:35] <Paradisee> how do i resize a lvm partition with ubuntu?
[11:35] <dreamcat4> ... even if the user who owns the folder is same as the one who crashes (creates core file)
[11:35] <SquRoFL> jellow: it was a joke, the linux equivalent of "format C after deleting system32"
[11:36] <SquRoFL> Paradisee: i think ubuntu's disk utility can do that, if not, live boot something like partition master
[11:36] <aliman> cluelessperson skype works fine for me to the only problem is the one with the mic. and i cannot fix it
[11:36] <Paradisee> that's what im trying to do
[11:36] <SquRoFL> hold on
[11:37] <SquRoFL> got a blank cd and a burner?
[11:37] <aliman> how can i burn cd's on ubuntu? if i want to make a music cd
[11:37] <SquRoFL> http://www.partitionwizard.com/partition-wizard-bootable-cd.html download the ISO, burn it, boopt from it
[11:38] <SquRoFL> tada, diskwizared can do what you want.
[11:38] <jellow> !burn | aliman
[11:39] <SquRoFL> yeah, Paradisee: downlaod the ISO from that page, insert blank CD, right click iso wherever you DL'ed it to, "write to disc"
[11:40] <SquRoFL> then boot from it like when you installed ubuntu
[11:40] <SquRoFL> f12, esc, del, whatever
[11:40] <SquRoFL> f12 on a dell
[11:40] <SquRoFL> enter on a stinkpad
[11:41] <Paradisee> SquRoFL: im already in gparted
[11:41] <SquRoFL> oh
[11:41] <SquRoFL> hur dur
[11:42] <SquRoFL> what format is the LVM
[11:42] <SquRoFL> ext3 ext2 ext4 ntfs fat fat32
[11:43] <Paradisee> lvm2
[11:44] <SquRoFL> th heck?
[11:44] <SquRoFL> OH
[11:44] <SquRoFL> you're talking about logical volumes....in your OS
[11:45] <SquRoFL> i have NO idea
[11:45] <SquRoFL> i thought you wanted to resize a ext3/ext4/fat volume on a hdd
[11:45] <SquRoFL> linux noob here
[11:47] <derrzzaa> Hey guys, looking for a wireless usb card so checking here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[11:47] <derrzzaa> Anyone with personal experience recommend one though?
[11:47] <SquRoFL> iunno what you're talking about i use a 300 baud modem with an acoustic coupler
[11:48] <jellow> !lvm | Paradisee
[11:48] <bazhang> !behelpful | SquRoFL
[11:48] <ioria> derrzzaa,   i  have  never had problems  with  realtek and atheros  chipset
[11:51] <jellow> Paradisee: according to the wiki for lvm2 there is not e2fsadm equivalent so be mindful of that. Source http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/reducelv.html
[11:51] <C0r3> Hey.. I have a question.
[11:52] <jellow> !ask | C0r3  :)
[11:53] <C0r3> I've installed Docky on my Ubuntu 14.04. When I'm running VirtualBox and a Virtual Machine in another window I want it to give a live preview in my Dock. Is that possible?
[11:58] <C0r3> jellow: Do you have any idea?
[12:01] <jellow> C0r3: No afraid not, I've never used Docky. I use mate and just use multiple desktops if I need to monitor more than one app running.
[12:06] <jellow> C0r3: I saw you tried #docky , They also have  mailing list (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/docky-dock). Or wait around and perhaps someone will know :)
[12:10] <C0r3> jellow, Thank you for your response.
[12:10] <jellow> C0r3: Please disregard my comment on mailing list as it appears to be dead. Would not waste your time.
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:14] <C0r3> jellow, Alright..
[12:14] <C0r3> BluesKaj, Hi
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi C0r3
[12:15] <uno>  sera
[12:18] <jellow> C0r3: hah here is best place to ask about docky https://answers.launchpad.net/docky , Will leave you alone now :)
[12:19] <C0r3> jellow, Thanks a lot!
[12:27] <aliman> damn is so boring today
[12:27] <aliman> no1 to talk with
[12:29] <aliman> guys do you think is ok if i have only 1 partition on my hdd? or should i have 2 one with the system and one for rest?
[12:30] <jellow> aliman: my preference is one for system and one for /home
[12:31] <aliman> if i reinstall the system and iwant to make 2 part what do i need to do?
[12:31] <danbower> hi. i created the following thread but seems that forum is pretty quiet. i'd appreciate if someone could help me with a boot issue i'm getting after installing 14.02: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2271309
[12:33] <aliman> danbower sorry m8 i'm not qualified :) i just started to use linux yday so....i would like to help you but...
[12:33] <jellow> aliman: you've got to select one partition / ( system ) and one /home, may even be an option not sure been a while since I re-installed
[12:35] <vooze_> Hi, (14.04) clean install. During boot before the plash screen or maybe during grub, it "flickers" and looks like loading an image with a very slow connection. What could cause this? GPU, grub-settings, high dpi display or what?
[12:39] <danbower> vooze_, you might want to install proprietary graphic card drivers
[12:39] <BluesKaj> vooze_, what does the image show ..an Icon/logo ?
[12:43] <nik_> Hi I have installed apache on ubuntu
[12:43] <hjem> f
[12:43] <nik_> and ssl is not working
[12:43] <hjem> ssl?
[12:43] <hjem> sure
[12:43] <hjem> ssl
[12:44] <nik_> I mean all the https urls are not working
[12:44] <hjem> oh then
[12:44] <nik_> I am getting an error
[12:44] <nik_> ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[12:44] <nik_>     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
[12:44] <Agent_Smith1> A program has asked which browser to use to open it, if I should choose to use Firefox, where would I locate the file to use?
[12:45] <nik_> /usr/bin
[12:45] <nik_> ?
[12:46] <ikonia> Agent_Smith1: the "file" ?
[12:46] <ikonia> do you mean the firefox binary /
[12:47] <nik_> did anyone had this issue before?
[12:48] <ikonia> nik_: sounds like your cert has been signed with an untrusted CA
[12:49] <ikonia> nik_: or your going through a proxy/router thats changing the payload
[12:49] <nik_> I have verified the apache ssl config
[12:49] <ikonia> nik_: how have you verified ?
[12:49] <nik_> /etc/apache2/site-enabled/default-ssl.conf
[12:49] <ikonia> thats a file
[12:49] <nik_> yes
[12:49] <ikonia> I'm asking how you verified
[12:49] <ikonia> not what is the file name
[12:50] <nik_> it ssl conf file for apache
[12:50] <ikonia> yes I know
[12:50] <ikonia> I'm asking how you verified the SSL conf and the cert and CA
[12:50] <nik_> I haven't done that
[12:50] <hjem> hi
[12:50] <nik_> not sure how to do
[12:50] <hjem> h
[12:51] <hjem> -h
[12:51] <ikonia> is this for childrensplace.com ?
[12:51] <nik_> no
[12:51] <hjem> no
[12:51] <ikonia> hjem: please don't do that
[12:52] <nik_> for my personal use
[12:52] <nik_> did you find that out from computer name?
[12:52] <ikonia> nik_: so first of all look at your virtual conf for ssl see what the _default is set to, second verify your certificate chain, third make sure you're not using a proxy that may be mangling it
[12:56] <hjem>  /leave
[13:03] <hjem> @
[13:03] <hjem> @
[13:03] <hjem> @
[13:03] <hjem> @g
[13:03] <hjem> g
[13:03] <hjem> g
[13:03] <nik_> default is set to 443
[13:03] <nik_> and how do i verify certificate chain
[13:03] <ikonia> use openssl
[13:08] <gnox> Hey guys, just installed Ubuntu 15.04 Beta 2
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> gnox: join #ubuntu+1 for vivid please
[13:09] <gnox> lotuspsychje: ok - sry for posting in the wrong channel
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> gnox: no sweat ; )
[13:11] <Lord_Phoenix> Hello again everyone
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> Lord_Phoenix: welcome
[13:11] <Lord_Phoenix> I've been here yesterday struggling with Bumblebee as well as nvidia-prime after recent kernel update
[13:11] <yorwos> hi all, im having problem using my firewire camera as webcam . its panasonic dvx100 , i can capture through kino but webcamstudio and my chat programs cant see it
[13:12] <Lord_Phoenix> Has anyone else having such problems after update?
[13:12] <Lord_Phoenix> Just can't make any of those to work :(
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> Lord_Phoenix: bumblebee is outdated mate, install nvidia-prime only for an optimus card
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> Lord_Phoenix: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:12] <Lord_Phoenix> nvidia-prime boots in low graphics mode and bumblebee cannot switch to second GPU
[13:12] <Lord_Phoenix> =(
[13:12] <Lord_Phoenix> 14.10
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> Lord_Phoenix: well if you want stable, i would goto 14.04 with nvidia-prime
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> Lord_Phoenix: if staying on 14.10 you can try fix broken packages from grub recoverymode perhaps
[13:15] <Ida_> How can I check which qt5 version I have installed?
[13:15] <Lord_Phoenix> Well, it's been working for me for last half a year :)
[13:15] <Lord_Phoenix> Just can't figure out what went wrong :-\
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> Ida_: apt-cache policy qt5
[13:20] <Lord_Phoenix> lotuspsychje, there is no broken packages that's the problem
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> Lord_Phoenix: try a nomodeset perhaps
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Lord_Phoenix
[13:22] <love3> Linux really has to fix the boot screen issues, so many flickers and glitches and that's when it displays properly
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> love3: no flickering here...maybe you should fix your issues on your machine
[13:23] <Lord_Phoenix> lotuspsychje, but that can help only with low graph with prime, right, because bumblebee loads driver only on optirun call or?
[13:23] <love3> Lol, how many machines shipped doa to me lately
[13:24] <alfatau> hello all. my question is about maintenance-mode. if i switch to runlevel 1, is there a way to unmount the root filesystem for maintenance (e.g. fsck, resize2fs...) without booting with a livecd?
[13:25] <archip> alfatau: why not just use the recovery mode from grub?
[13:27] <alfatau> archip: well i'd like to know if i can definitively avoid a new server boot.
[13:27] <love3> Does ubuntu come with a warranty
[13:28] <Guest79134> ?
[13:28] <yeats> alfatau: why would you avoid using a live CD?  that would be the natural choice for what you're doing.
[13:28] <llutz> alfatau: you can't
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> love3: warranty for what? its opensource
[13:29] <yeats> love3: no
[13:29] <royer> hey
[13:29] <love3> What if it breaks
[13:29] <llutz> love3: fix it
[13:29] <royer> how old are u ?
[13:29] <yeats> love3: you can get paid support if you need it
[13:29] <love3> Hmm, logical
[13:30] <yeats> !ot | royer
[13:30] <love3> Thanks
[13:33] <love3> Does ubuntu ever apologize?
[13:34] <yeats> love3: what are you asking?
[13:34] <love3> Does it say sorry when apps crash
[13:34] <love3> I kinda appreciate that
[13:34] <yorwos> my mini-dv firewire camera dvx100 can be seen by Kino , but no other program can see it so i can use it as a webcam , any ideas ?
[13:35] <yeats> love3: you can enable automatic crash/bug reports, but no, there's not an apology - why would you expect that?
[13:35]  * archip facepalms
[13:35] <love3> I didn't that's why I asked.
[13:35] <nikola_> hello i have the following problem, i am with ubuntu 14.04 64bit, and i run win 8.1 on vmware, the poblem is that when i install some program it takes too much space from the virtual drive
[13:36] <yeats> love3: do you have an ubuntu support question, or are you just making conversation?  #ubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate
[13:36] <llutz> nikola_: resize your virtual drive then
[13:37] <yorwos> i have no video1394  raw1394 in my /dev/ list
[13:37] <love3> Ooh okay kinda both I'll separate the things I say
[13:37] <nikola_> it will full my drive very fast for program that shuld be 5gb it takes 50gb
[13:37] <yeats> nikola_: ask in #vmware or ##windows
[13:38] <nikola_> ok thanks
[13:43] <simon_g> hi
[13:44] <naftilos76> I just tried to add into /etc/sudoers an exception for me (user naftilos76) to execute "iptables -S" but it just does not work. What i did is this: User_Alias RAILS_CONTROL_PANNEL_USER = naftilos76 , Cmnd_Alias RAILS_CP_COMMANDS = /sbin/iptables -S , RAILS_CONTROL_PANNEL_USER ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:RAILS_CP_COMMANDS . I reboot my ubuntu vps and when i connect via ssh as naftilos76 i get permission denied when i enter "iptables -S" . Can anybody suggest
[13:44] <naftilos76> what i am doing wrong?
[13:44] <naftilos76> Ubuntu ver is 14.04
[13:45] <archip> naftilos76: you did put sudo before the command right? (sudo iptables)
[13:45] <archip> ah wait you tried to add the executable to sudo
[13:45] <archip> derp
[13:45] <naftilos76> If i do i get asked for the passwd
[13:46] <naftilos76> it should work but it doesn't
[13:46] <EriC^^> naftilos76, you always get asked for the password
[13:46] <naftilos76> But i used the directive 'NOPASSWD'
[13:46] <naftilos76> this is why i used it
[13:47] <naftilos76> to not be asked for the passwd
[13:47] <naftilos76> !
[13:47] <naftilos76> right?
[13:47] <EriC^^> naftilos76, just add <user> ALL= NOPASSWD:/sbin/iptables -S
[13:49] <naftilos76> i am still getting permission denied. Should i reboot?
[13:49] <danbower> hi. if there's anyone familiar with grub/install issues, i'd really appreciate some help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2271309
[13:49] <danbower> forum seems a bit quiet :/
[13:49] <naftilos76> I exited my ssh session and got back in and i still get perm denied
[13:50] <naftilos76> EriC^^ : any ideas?
[13:50] <vanessa> hi
[13:51] <ubuntu193> bonjour tt mode
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !fr | ubuntu193
[13:51] <naftilos76> EriC^^: i rebooted and still get the same behavior
[13:51] <naftilos76> Very strange
[13:53] <ubuntu193> j'ai un petit probleme 403 avec mon serveur sur quel ficher je doit mettre les droits stp
[13:54] <thunder_kk> i have bought kb-tabmate zebronics bluetooth keyboard. only some random keys work but most of them dont work. but it works perfectly in windows. please help me to fix this
[13:59] <simon_g> hi
[13:59] <archip> hey
[13:59] <rareax> :57 < mebigfatguy> rareax, http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13.bpxa600/rrlr.htm
[14:01] <simon_g> where does the ubuntu 15.04 keeps the xorg configuration? my touchpad works fine in ubuntu out of the box only, on other distributions i have to configure it. i cannot find /etc/X11/xorg.conf so i cannot copy the detailed configuration
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | simon_g
[14:03] <danemacmillan> Hi, does Truecrypt 7.1a work with the latest Ubuntu?
[14:03] <simon_g> ok thanks cfhowlett
[14:03] <cfhowlett> simon_g, happy2help!
[14:03] <simon_g> just out of interest, if that would be 14.10 where would the configuration be stored?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> simon_g, no idea.  sorry.
[14:04] <simon_g> also- how can i configure the unity to be able to move window to the right/up/left/minimize by pressing the win+ right/up/left/down arrow (like in gnome 3 or windows)?
[14:05] <simon_g> i can do the same by just moving window into the side, but i prefer the keyboard solution
[14:05] <Edu-J> could you recommend any to-do like app, please? ^^
[14:06] <Edu-J> for desktop, not browser
[14:06] <Tin_man> Osmo
[14:07] <Tin_man> it's in your software center
[14:08] <Tin_man> Edu-J, the above was for you Osmo personal info manager
[14:09] <Edu-J> thx Tin_man, I'm taking a look ;)
[14:09] <Moonsilence> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu Desktop on my netbook and find that by default windows, buttons, fonts, etc. are too big for the small screen and are clipped. Some windows don't fit onto screen and there is no way to see the bottom part of the window. How can I make everything proportionally smaller? I am absolutely new to ubuntu. Thanks!
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Moonsilence, you might find lubuntu or xubuntu to be better netbook options.  to test the look and feel: sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4                   then logout, choose an alternate session and login
[14:12] <Moonsilence> cfhowlett, thanks, I will try that.
[14:13] <Edu-J> Moonsilence, have you tried setting the correct resolution of your display?
[14:13] <Edu-J> Moonsilence, maybe you have some problem with your graphic card
[14:14] <Tin_man> Moonsilence, you might also download the Unity Tweak Tool
[14:14] <Moonsilence> Edu-J, the native resolution for my screen was automatically found and set during installation.
[14:15] <Edu-J> Moonsilence, have a try with Unity Tweak Tool as Tin_man says
[14:16] <Moonsilence> Thanks, Tin_man
[14:16] <Tin_man> np
[14:19] <dream> hello
[14:20] <dream> where python
[14:20] <cfhowlett> dream, ummm, #python ??
[14:20] <dream> study python
[14:21] <dream> want to study python
[14:21] <IdleOne> learnpython.org
[14:21] <mzaza> I am configuring apache to a custom directory in my home folder, however it seems that there is a problem with the permissions and I get an error that access is denied.
[14:21] <cfhowlett> dream, www.python.org <don't be lazy>
[14:21] <Tin_man> dream: https://www.python.org/
[14:22] <mzaza> I have set the directoy to /home/mzaza/Lab/www
[14:22] <mzaza> And I get error to access /home/mzaza/Lab
[14:22] <mp3user> dream: diveintipython3, and learn python the hard way
[14:22] <dream> python3?
[14:22] <mp3user> mzaza: change directory rights
[14:23] <aliman> can anyone tell me which option i chose for device for boot? the second sda2?  http://imgur.com/WmmiVuk
[14:23] <mzaza> mp3user: to 775?
[14:23] <mp3user> dream: what you want to learn? web, os programming, scripts?
[14:23] <TheNumb> how to cook
[14:23] <mp3user> mzaza: or it depends
[14:23] <MrElendig> dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps8jOj7diA0&list=PL9D558D49CA734A02
[14:24] <hjem> Wtf is you people doing?
[14:24] <hjem> scrub fucks
[14:24] <mp3user> mzaza: and you need use -r key
[14:24] <mzaza> mp3user: On what? I have set it /home/mzaza/WWW to 775 and still I get error when browing localhost
[14:24] <cfhowlett> hjem, stop the profanity immediately
[14:24] <mzaza> mp3user: Yes, I did.
[14:24] <mp3user> what sya ls -l?
[14:25] <mzaza> rwxrwxr-x
[14:25] <dream> i want yo learn web for python
[14:26] <mp3user> dream: u need learn django, its best way for web
[14:26] <IdleOne> dream: go to www.python.org and all the information you need is there
[14:27] <mzaza> mp3user: rwxrwxr-x
[14:27] <dream> good ,thanks
[14:27] <MrElendig> django is far from the best
[14:27] <mp3user> mzaza: sudo chmod -R a+rx [your_directory]
[14:27] <mzaza> mp3user: I think the problem is related to that the home partition can't be accessed
[14:27] <mp3user> MrElendig: django best for newbie coz have really big community
[14:28] <MrElendig> not really
[14:28] <mp3user> u know bigger?
[14:28] <dream> bigger/
[14:28] <dream> ?
[14:30] <mp3user> start read djangoproject site
[14:30] <bitnumus> Hi, does anyone here use NFS and have nautilus hang when doing so ?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> dream, get out of ubuntu irc.  go to www.python.org          and look at the entire LIBRARIES of free resouces.
[14:30] <archip> anyone here using ubuntu+intelliJ with the latest android SDK on API 22 having trouble running the VM on KVM?
[14:30] <mp3user> and if you dont understand something go to python docs
[14:31] <mzaza> mp3user: Still. [Sun Mar 29 16:28:03.328340 2015] [core:error] [pid 7577] (13)Permission denied: [client 127.0.0.1:43871] AH00035: access to / denied (filesystem path '/home/mzaza/WWW') because search permissions are missing on a component of the path
[14:31] <zykotick9> mp3user: ahhh, your recursive chmod above, makes everything executable...  <- not a great suggestion.   mzaza beware!
[14:32] <l9> i wanna remove all folder.jpg from several dir typed rm -rf /home/user/folder/*/folder.jpg
[14:32] <Basketballl> Hi
[14:32] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: You need to change your tone when helping, if you don't feel like answering then I suggest you don't. Your help in here is greatly appreciated but I will not tolerate what appears to be a less than nice attitude from you.
[14:33] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, noted.  sorry
[14:33] <IdleOne> thank you.
[14:33] <mp3user> mzaza: mb this chcon -R --type=httpd_sys_rw_content_t wp-content/
[14:33] <Basketballl> Hey idle one how can I make a custom live cd  for Ubuntu 14.04 that will run my bash script that installs my programs
[14:34] <IdleOne> !customize
[14:34] <IdleOne> hmm
[14:34] <mzaza> mp3user: What is that :D ?
[14:35] <sda> hi all, I have an expanding file "RAW" when I write inside it, it expands. But when I delete it doesnt compact. How can I compact the file?
[14:35] <mp3user> mzaza: have the right to edit my .htaccess with wordpress
[14:36] <Basketballl> Idle any ideas
[14:37] <TheNumb> Basketballl: there used to be an application called remastersys but I don't know if it's still being developed.
[14:37] <dream> byebye
[14:38] <Basketballl> The number I tried that but it screwed up my pc
[14:38] <Basketballl> It turned my current install into a live install
[14:39] <IdleOne> Basketballl: I was going to suggest remastersys also
[14:39] <Basketballl> Are you supposed to select distribution or backup
[14:41] <degva> Hello Guys, how can I know which driver is being used for my gamepad?
[14:42] <sda> hi all, I have an expanding file "RAW" when I write inside it, it expands. But when I delete it doesnt compact. How can I compact the file?
[14:43] <TheNumb> sda: err
[14:43] <TheNumb> sda: what do you use it for?
[14:44] <photon> I have a bunch of files (audio, video, personal files). Is it a bad idea to only allow the owner read and write permissions, and remove all group/other permissions? I can't think of any reason not to do this, and it can't hurt and should increase security.
[14:45] <binOp> Hey!
[14:45] <sda> TheNumb, I use as block device. ext4 formatted. When I delete the file I also "recover" the space whiping the used space with zerofree
[14:46] <archip> photon: you can do it but will only play a role in systems with more than 1 user
[14:46] <TheNumb> sda: so you want to shrink the filesystem right?
[14:46] <TheNumb> sda: man resize2fs
[14:48] <sda> TheNumb, No, I will keep the maximum size of the file as 300GB but the actual space used is less, When I add file inside it it grows but never shrink
[14:51] <Mark-z> 7l This is your game ? http://www.desura.com/games/aeon-ball
[14:53] <orp> hi there
[14:53] <orp> any one have problems with grep on new ubuntu ?
[14:53] <orp> i can't use -v option
[14:54] <orp> it don't work at all
[14:54] <orp> it work in al linux i used
[14:54] <SchrodingersScat> orp: can you give an example of it not working that you can share with us?
[14:54] <orp> yes
[14:55] <orp> if i touch 1 2 3 4 5 in a var as example
[14:55] <orp> and i ls | grep -v 4
[14:55] <orp> if i echo the var it should return 4
[14:55] <orp> it does return at all
[14:56] <orp> it list all 12345
[14:56] <MrElendig> orp: you should not ls | grep anyway :p
[14:56] <orp> why
[14:56] <orp> if grep works fine on redhat
[14:56] <MrElendig> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
[14:57] <MrElendig> orp: if ls gives you all 5 files on the same line then ofcourse grep will show the the whole line
[14:57] <MrElendig> if part of the line match
[14:57] <SchrodingersScat> If I touch 1 2 3 4 5 ; then ls | grep -v 4 ; I get 1\n2\n3\n5
[14:57] <MrElendig> as a sidenote
[14:58] <SchrodingersScat> MrElendig: -v is invert, so if 4 was there it shouldn't show the line
[14:59] <orp> yes
[14:59] <orp> that is the target
[14:59] <orp> but it don't work at all
[14:59] <orp> i don't know what happens
[14:59] <MrElendig> orp: echo 1 2 3 4 5 | grep -v 4
[14:59] <orp> is not working at all
[15:00] <SchrodingersScat> should display nothing
[15:00] <orp> return empty
[15:02] <alfatau> hello all. is there a safe way to switch to maintenance/rescue mode and execute maintenance tasks using ssh? i.e. systemctl rescue causes networking and sshd to be stopped. any other way? should I create a custom target which is a "clone" of rc1.d but with networking and ssh?
[15:02] <MrElendig> orp: so grep is working fine
[15:02] <MrElendig> orp: really, stop doing ls | grep
[15:02] <alfatau> otherwise, what is a best-practice for this kind of tasks
[15:02] <alfatau> ?
[15:02] <MrElendig> use find(1) or globbing
[15:02] <orp> ok
[15:03] <MrElendig> https://bpaste.net/show/7abf0c711d5f
[15:05] <orp> thanks mate that will sort it
[15:05] <MrElendig> if you use zsh then you can ^4
[15:05] <orp> no have to be bash
[15:05] <solsTiCe> MrElendig: hi. so you're in #ubuntu now :-(
[15:06] <degva> Hey guys, does anybody know where I can get help on gamepads?
[15:06] <MrElendig> solsTiCe: from time to time
[15:06] <solsTiCe> ok
[15:07] <MrElendig> with bash you can do set extglob and (!4)
[15:07] <MrElendig> er... !(4)
[15:08] <MrElendig> or whatever the syntax is
[15:08] <degva> nobody? :/
[15:08] <solsTiCe> so I have mounted a samba share via nautilus and I want root to be able to access it (to dd an iso from the share). But he can't. Is there a trick so that can root can access it or I need to mount the share with mount as root.
[15:08] <MrElendig> https://bpaste.net/show/5481c4180c5d
[15:09] <MrElendig> what is the error?
[15:10] <MrElendig> also you might not want to dd directly from the samba share
[15:11] <solsTiCe> # LANG=C cd /run/user/1000/gvfs
[15:11] <solsTiCe> -bash: cd: /run/user/1000/gvfs: Permission denied
[15:11] <solsTiCe> that's what I do. I copy from the share to the user home so that root can dd from that. but that's anoying.
[15:12] <MrElendig> just mount it as root using mount
[15:12] <solsTiCe> here is what root sees of gvfs dir: d?????????  ? ?        ?          ?              ? gvfs/
[15:12] <solsTiCe> that's weird. I wonder how nautilus can do that
[15:15] <llutz> solsTiCe: nautilus uses gvfs, gnome-virtual-file-system to mount that. therefore only the user nautilus runs as has access. mount the share manually, then you can give mount-options for other users access
[15:16] <thunder_kk> i have bought a bluetooth keyboard but many of its keys are not working. it works well in windows but not ubuntu. please help me
[15:21] <MrElendig> thunder_kk: what keys?
[15:21] <MrElendig> thunder_kk: multimedia keys?
[15:22] <thunder_kk> MrElendig: all keys like "a,b,c,d,,," all keys
[15:22] <MrElendig> what keyboard is this?
[15:22] <MrElendig> and what does dmesg and xinput say about it?
[15:23] <Lisa_> Wonder if anyone can help me - I was using Ubuntu for quite some years now. I upgraded to 14.04 and everything went Kaput. However my terminal is working. My GUI is fried. Funny the live USB for 14.04 works perfectly fine. Does have anyone have any pointers
[15:24] <thunder_kk> MrElendig: kb-tabmate zebronics bluetooth keyboard. dmesg says apple keyboard connected. i used keysm to detect keys but there were no keys detected at all
[15:26] <ioria> Lisa_ : apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[15:28] <Lisa_> ioria: I have done this ages ago but doesn;t work, I tried removing fglrx, then going into the safe mode purge..  but let me try this once again.
[15:30] <Lisa_> ioria: 0 to upgrade , 0 to install 1 reinstall 0 to remove and 3 not to upgrade
[15:30] <Lisa_> ioria: Nothing got installed
[15:31] <Codmadnesspro> How can I allow netcat to keep a listening port open infinite? It seems once i've done sudo nc -l 69 and it's responded to the listening port it then stops
[15:31] <ioria> Lisa_ : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:32] <Lisa_> my startx simply doesn't work
[15:32] <llutz> Codmadnesspro: nc -k
[15:34] <Lisa_> I am wondering anyone had the issue of their GUI getting fried upon updating to 14.04
[15:34] <viGtor_> hi! is there any way to disable bluetooth at startup?
[15:35] <nvon> Hi. I am trying to "install" pdf2djvu on Ubuntu (http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/vivid/pdf2djvu), but I don't actually know what do to after downloading these packages.
[15:35] <ikonia> you don't download them
[15:35] <ikonia> you open the package manager, search for pdf2djvu and click install
[15:36] <ikonia> nvon: I suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com and look at the basics of how to use the package manager to install software
[15:36] <nvon> ikonia, so downloading them would be a lot more troublesome?
[15:37] <ikonia> yes
[15:37] <nvon> ikonia, I didn't want to install ubuntu, I am using the live cd on vbox.
[15:37] <ikonia> nvon: so ?
[15:37] <nvon> ok
[15:37] <ikonia> nvon: same concept applies
[15:37] <SchrodingersScat> nvon: you should only need to run sudo apt-get install pdf2djvu   #but knowing what you're doing is good and reading about packages would be good
[15:37] <ramen69> http://www.trustfm.net/software/utilities/PdfToDjvuGUI.php?page=Documentation
[15:37] <viGtor_> another question, if I install i did an installation for plugins and "libavcodec-56" was removed to install libavcodec-extra-56, do I need both?
[15:38] <ramen69> no the extra version sounds like it supersedes the former package
[15:38] <viGtor_> so is it better having the extra?
[15:39] <nvon> SchrodingersScat, ok, that was dramatically easy. I've spent hours trying to make it work on windows and now on linux...
[15:39] <nvon> lol
[15:39] <ramen69> viGtor_: technically
[15:39] <viGtor_> ramen69: the thing is that no matter which one is installed, i get always dependencies missing and now i'm worried :S
[15:40] <nvon> ramen69, SchrodingersScat, any idea on how to do it as simply on windows, using MinGW?
[15:40] <SchrodingersScat> nvon: if you're looking for software, the repos are a good place to start.  You can use 'apt-cache search ' then a keyword to search through them for things you need, and only after that resource is exhausted would I normally look for manual answers.
[15:40] <ramen69> viGtor_: have you tried apt-get install then the package name?
[15:40] <viGtor_> actually i haven't had any problem so far but now that i know there's a problem i keep thinking in some point my OS will be broken
[15:41] <ramen69> the xtra version of that package bundles extra codecs, its not better its just got more features
[15:41] <ramen69> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+package/libavcodec-extra-56
[15:41] <ramen69> google ^^
[15:41] <viGtor_> lol yeah i tried but i'm too newbie to understand some stuff :P
[15:42] <SchrodingersScat> nvon: nope, if you're looking to install the pdf2djvu, apt-cache show pdf2djvu has this as the homepage, and they have a windows exe but this is #ubuntu ;) http://jwilk.net/software/pdf2djvu
[15:42] <ramen69> np im a noob tbh, but if you ask the right questions i can provide the right answers
[15:43] <viGtor_> ramen69: it warked, thanks SO much! actually i've been replacing mac os x into my macbook pro because a software problem and this is kind of hard :P anyway, do you know how to disable bluetooth at startup?
[15:43] <ramen69> nvon: unless you want to recompile the program from the source, its windows only off the bat
[15:44] <nvon> SchrodingersScat, I see, it is just that the windows version is older. Thanks anyway, this saved me some time. (pdf2djvu's docs are awful).
[15:44] <nvon> ramen69, I need to recompile from the source to get the latest version, right?
[15:44] <SchrodingersScat> nvon: idk much about cross compiling, sorry.
[15:45] <ramen69> derp
[15:45] <ikonia> ??
[15:46] <ramen69> nvon: sorry i dc'd
[15:46] <nvon> ramen69, ?
[15:47] <ramen69> viGtor_: still stuck?
[15:48] <viGtor_> yes, i found something but it disables the battery indicator
[15:48] <viGtor_> :S
[15:49] <arcsky> hi, i did plugin a usb drive and it shows only 2.5MB and its a 16GB drive. how can i solve that?
[15:49] <viGtor_> and de keyboard mapping for the macbook pro too, it's horrible :S
[15:49] <ramen69> im not really good with the gui stuff tbh dude viGtor_
[15:49] <aliman> hey guys i installed skype on ubuntu and i got a small unpacking error can any1 help? is that a problem? and how can i check if is a prob or not?   http://i.imgur.com/46iHBZC.png?1
[15:49] <TheNumb> aliman: what's the problem?
[15:50] <ramen69> arcsky: is only 2.5mb of it partitioned into a filesystem? :S
[15:50] <aliman> check the link...if u watch the pic u'll see in the 6st line an error
[15:50] <TheNumb> aliman: libgpg-error is a name of a package :D
[15:50] <nvon> arcsky, Do you need to recover files or can you format it?
[15:50] <arcsky> nvon: i can format it
[15:51] <nvon> arcsky, what brand is it?
[15:51] <aliman> TheNumb are you sure? so is no problem therE?
[15:51] <TheNumb> aliman: 100% sure
[15:51] <arcsky> sandisk
[15:51] <aliman> ok thx alot
[15:51] <TheNumb> aliman: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libgpg-error0
[15:51] <SchrodingersScat> aliman: yeah, you're fine
[15:51] <ramen69> aliman: looks fine, just a package name
[15:51] <viGtor_> ramen69: this is for the bluetooth, do you know if doing this i will be able to use bluetooth when needed? http://askubuntu.com/questions/410181/ubuntu-13-10-disable-bluetooth-at-startup
[15:52] <nvon> arcsky, Download a program called BOOTICEx86
[15:53] <ramen69> viGtor_: yes that will disable it on startup
[15:53] <aliman_> ohh wi-fi crashed
[15:54] <ramen69> what that does is, once linux has booted all of its programs and services will kill the bluetooth 'service'
[15:54] <viGtor_> Oh perfect then ^^
[15:55] <ramen69> to start it manually type: sudo rfkill unblock bluetooth
[15:55] <ramen69> you could even alias that command
[15:55] <viGtor_> how?
[15:56] <ramen69> viGtor_: http://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/set-command-aliases-linuxubuntudebian/
[15:57] <ramen69> tbf viGtor_ this might make more sense http://askubuntu.com/questions/1414/how-to-create-a-permanent-alias
[15:57] <xbox> adobe flash player
[15:57] <viGtor_> ramen69: but what is the alias for?
[15:58] <viGtor_> (lol i feel so stupid right now)
[15:58] <ramen69> nah, eg rather than typing a whole string of commands over anf over you can create an alias for the command
[15:59] <dolk82> Hello, iv just installed ubuntu linux and trying to learn it. But im having som issues...When im checking out videos in youtube im only geting 360p even when im restricting my search to just find HD can anyone tell me how i can fix this?
[15:59] <ramen69> so sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade could become just the command upgradenow
[15:59] <viGtor_> ah! that's amazing ^^
[15:59] <ramen69> dolk82: try updating flash via the package manager maybe?
[16:00] <viGtor_> would it work for the mapping issue i have?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/131900/how-do-i-switch-the-command-key-and-control-key-on-a-macbook-pro
[16:00] <ramen69> nah, thats keyboard layout
[16:00] <viGtor_> here i create de .X.... file and launch it and it works (switching cmd key to ctrl key)
[16:01] <viGtor_> BUT i have to relaunch the commant on every reboot
[16:01] <dolk82> ramen69,: is package manager the same as Ubuntu software Center? (im not used to linux at all :) )
[16:01] <ramen69> nah
[16:01] <ramen69> you're not editing the right file if that is the case
[16:01] <ramen69> dolk82: yes it is , sorry :)
[16:01] <viGtor_> cause if i put it on autostartup apps it just does nothing
[16:01] <htqp> dolk82: ubutnu software center  is essentially a graphical front-end to the package manager
[16:02] <dolk82> ok thanks :) Im guessing it is the Adobe Flash plugin i need to install :)
[16:03] <ramen69> viGtor_: ive never done it tbh but i think it might be a pain not sure if anyone else here can give you a hand on setting up a custom keyboard layout
[16:04]  * ramen69 needs to get back to work, lol
[16:04] <leiter> I'm not to familiar with xorg...
[16:04] <ioria> dolk82 :  maybe i'm wrong but on youtube you don't need  Flash
[16:05] <viGtor_> ramen69: ill do some research, thanks a lot dude!
[16:05] <ramen69> viGtor_: might help http://michal.kosmulski.org/computing/articles/custom-keyboard-layouts-xkb.html
[16:05] <aliman_> does any1 know how can i make dolby sound work on ubuntu for an lenovo g50-70?
[16:05] <dolk82> ramen69: thanks worked like a charm but when im playing the video gets choppy/laggy can it be that that i need to install any drivers for graphic card?
[16:05] <aliman_> is working on windows cuz i have the driver but not for linux
[16:05] <viGtor_> aliman_: maybe typing alsamixer in terminal can get you extra options
[16:05] <ramen69> dolk82: gpu drivers
[16:06] <dolk82> it seems like the whole linux system is a bit slow. It was win 8 on the machine when i buyed it..
[16:06] <ramen69> dolk82: top right of screen in the little bar should be a green icon you can click on to install gpu drivers?
[16:06] <ramen69> afaik
[16:07] <ramen69> dolk82: i found before that without proper grahics drivers it can seem a bit slow
[16:07] <aliman_> viGtor this is all i got   http://i.imgur.com/SjWD7z8.png?1
[16:07] <viGtor_> is there an irc channel for ubuntu gnome?
[16:07] <Anonym> Hello there
[16:07] <Anonym> Can someone learn me how to code with objective c?
[16:08] <Anonym> ffs guys
[16:08] <Anonym> learn me to fucking use xcode and o jective c coding system bras
[16:08] <ramen69> viGtor_: irc.gnome.org
[16:08] <viGtor_> aliman_: can you hear sound?
[16:08] <ramen69> https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/IRC#GNOME_IRC_Server
[16:08] <aliman_> yes i can
[16:09] <ramen69> ugh, i remember using alsamixer
[16:09] <dolk82> ramen69,: dont know if im totaly retarded but i cant see any green icon here is my screenshot http://gyazo.com/7e7c9e91f3cc1746391aca63d5dbc23c
[16:09] <ramen69> i could never get it to do what i wanted
[16:09] <aliman_> viGtor yes i can hear sound
[16:10] <ramen69> dolk82: try searching software centre for XOrg drivers
[16:10] <XenophonF> hey all - i'm running into a weird problem with nis
[16:10] <viGtor_> aliman_: no idea so, i get too much more options thou
[16:10] <researcher> !install rpm
[16:10] <researcher> !rpm
[16:10] <XenophonF> i can do 'ypcat passwd' and 'ypcat shadow', and see the respective maps
[16:10] <viGtor_> but i'm in ubuntu gnome so no idea if this works the same
[16:10] <XenophonF> but if i do "getent shadow", it doesn't show the NIS maps
[16:10] <aliman_> is there any difference between 14.04 LTS and gnome?
[16:10] <ramen69> o
[16:11] <XenophonF> this is ubuntu 12.04.5 with rpcbind and nis installed
[16:11] <XenophonF> i'm using pam_krb5 for authentication
[16:11] <researcher> how to install rpm
[16:11] <researcher> ! rpm
[16:12] <aliman_> viGtor when you send me message here in chat and you specify my name i hear a sound how can i do this so the person i want can hear?
[16:12] <cfhowlett> researcher, you do not install RPM to ubuntu.  if you prefer rpm, you just install a different OS, e.g. fedora or centos
[16:12] <aliman_> and i see ur name red
[16:12] <ramen69> whats wrong with .deb? :(
[16:12] <viGtor_> aliman_: just type 3 letter of the nickname and press tab key then type your message
[16:13] <aliman_> viGtor_:  ah ok thx alot
[16:13] <aliman_> viGtor_: is it workig?
[16:13] <aliman_> working*
[16:14] <Missing1600reso> i heard the rpm distro for noobs pclinuxos
[16:14] <leiter> I'm trying to search for the url of an img src file in an html source code so I can pipe it to wget to download.  Any ideas?
[16:15] <TheNumb> Most vendors package their software in .deb and .rpm packages anyway...
[16:15] <ramen69> Missing1600reso: not necessarily, do you know thos OS's back to front?
[16:15] <aliman_> what games can run on ubuntu? i mean not the games from ubuntu software center i mean real games
[16:16] <Missing1600reso> ramen69: no, just from articles
[16:16] <Missing1600reso> aliman_, steam games
[16:16] <cfhowlett> !steam | aliman_,
[16:16] <SchrodingersScat> leiter: grep, sed, etc.
[16:16] <Missing1600reso> real games like minesweeper
[16:16] <ramen69> Missing1600reso: never trust anyone :D
[16:16] <aliman_> and on steam can i find games like call of duty and stuff like this?
[16:17] <TheNumb> not really
[16:17] <leiter> SchrodingersScat: Thanks.  I'm having a heck of a time with regex, and grep seems to include more than just the filename.
[16:17] <vivid> aliman_, http://store.steampowered.com/ see for yourself
[16:17] <Missing1600reso> aliman_, except thats not a steam game. maybe team fortress
[16:17] <cfhowlett> aliman_, www.steampowered.com    will give you the list of games.  best you go to the source and see for yourself ...
[16:17] <TheNumb> aliman_: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=&sort_by=_ASC&os=linux&page=1
[16:17] <dhrosa> this is probably the wrong channel, but what upstart event do I want to use if I want a service to start as late as possible?
[16:17] <leiter> SchrodingersScat: would sed be better than awk?
[16:17] <aliman_> if i have a steam account for windows it will work for ubuntu or i need another account?
[16:17] <TheNumb> aliman_: it will work.
[16:17] <dhrosa> this is on a server machine, so I cant' start on desktop environment init
[16:17] <Missing1600reso> aliman_, should work
[16:18] <ramen69> aliman_: only 1000 games work for linux atm
[16:18] <aliman_> i don't think i have time to try all 1000 :))
[16:18] <ioria> dhrosa  because you  are on  server  :P
[16:18] <ramen69> aliman_: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9439-QHKN-1308
[16:18] <SchrodingersScat> leiter: awk is fine.  just need to parse for what you're looking for.  I normally pull the page with curl then pipe that through somethings to filter junk then finally to wget/whatever.
[16:18] <ramen69> more info ^
[16:18] <dhrosa> ioria: well yes I know :p, I mean to say that I don't have a DE running, so upstart's documentation is useless
[16:19] <dhrosa> ioria: upstart reccomends starting on DE startup if you want an event to start late... which is useless on a server machine
[16:19] <viGtor_> aliman_: sorry i had sound disabled lol
[16:19] <viGtor_> try again
[16:19] <aliman_> viGtor_: lol ok
[16:19] <viGtor_> aliman_: but i guess it depends on the irc client you're using
[16:19] <leiter> SchrodingersScat: Thank you!
[16:19] <viGtor_> i'm using polari so it's too limitated by now
[16:20] <aliman_> irc client? i just use the chat on webpage on firefox
[16:20] <viGtor_> lol nevermind so :P
[16:20] <ramen69> kek
[16:20] <viGtor_> i prefer irc clients than webclients
[16:21] <aliman_> which one is a good irc client?
[16:21] <ramen69> that is subjective
[16:21] <viGtor_> with ubuntu i think xchat is good
[16:21] <ramen69> im using irssi
[16:21] <Missing1600reso> aliman_, what distro are you on?
[16:22] <viGtor_> i'm on polaris cause i try to use gnome 3 apps
[16:22] <viGtor_> but they're still too "green"
[16:22] <aliman_> Missing1600reso: distro? lol m8 sry but i need to ask i just installed linux and joined irc chat so i am not used to all the terms hehe
[16:23] <leiter> I'm also on irssi, but xchat is a good recommendation
[16:23] <jrtappers> Is there a problem with ubuntu server curl, it seems to use the Redhat path for the CA list, rather than the debian one, leading to errors
[16:23] <ramen69> leiter: care to share any of your config? I jsut recently setup this vps
[16:23] <viGtor_> aliman_: sudo apt-get install xchat
[16:23] <viGtor_> using the terminal
[16:24] <viGtor_> or xchat from software center
[16:24] <archip> xchat is unmaintained and vulnerable from sslv3 attacks
[16:24] <ioria> dhrosa  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[16:24] <aliman_> guys i see dota 2 is free to play. it will be like this 4ever or its only for a period?   http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=&sort_by=_ASC&os=linux&page=1
[16:24] <zykotick9> hexchat is the new xchat ;)
[16:24] <cfhowlett> archip, hexchat is the maintained replacement
[16:25] <viGtor_> aliman_: by the way, you're using Ubuntu 14.10 as a distro with Unity as a shell (from the screenshot you sent me before)
[16:25] <jrtappers> aliman_, Probably forever, they have a big userbase
[16:25] <cfhowlett> aliman_, you'd have to ask !steam about that - it's their game
[16:25] <XenophonF> so any idea why i wouldn't see the shadow yp map in "getent shadow"?
[16:25] <viGtor_> hexchat? never heard, will check ^^
[16:25] <aliman_> it is 14.04 not 14.10 :)
[16:25] <ramen69> viGtor_: its a clone iirc
[16:25] <jrtappers> curl uses /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt by default, which doesn't exist
[16:26] <archip> why is xchat still in the repos and not marked with a huge "DO NOT USE" banner?
[16:26] <dhrosa> ioria: that doesn't really answer my question, but I've figured out an okay-solution
[16:26] <aliman_> viGtor_: or at least thats what i have been downloading from ubuntu.com
[16:26] <drose379> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu Mate
[16:26] <ioria> dhrosa  happy  tohearthat
[16:26] <jrtappers> archip, people use it I guess, there are many insecure packages, maybe apt-get should have some kind of warning?
[16:27] <viGtor_> aliman_: oh sorry! hehe Unity doesn't show major ui changes between some versions so i though you were using the last version :)
[16:27] <Missing1600reso> lxle is still including xchat atm
[16:27] <aliman> ummm i'm on xchat now
[16:27] <viGtor_> liked? :P
[16:27] <jrtappers> Me also... I should probably  change
[16:28] <TheNumb> hexchat is the way to got ;-)
[16:28] <ramen69> +1
[16:28] <TheNumb> go*
[16:28] <archip> I haev switched to irssi
[16:28] <aliman> viGtor_, well, let me stay here more before i pronounce :))
[16:28] <viGtor_> and polari?
[16:28] <TheNumb> viGtor_: I'm not a fan of polari.
[16:28] <TheNumb> At least polari 3.14
[16:28] <aliman> viGtor_, specify my name again plz i want to know if is working here too :)
[16:28] <ramen69> aliman:
[16:29] <viGtor_> aliman: kikou!
[16:29] <Tolken> i am tryiing to install ubuntu in my android phone, I have installed, complete linux installer, android vnc and terminal emulator.  I have also installed the img files. When I click Launch i get an eroor  saying that, unfortunately complete linux installer has stopped. I am on lolipop
[16:29] <aliman> viGtor_, lol is working but no sound only the xchat icon dancing
[16:29] <viGtor_> that's what i get with polary too
[16:30] <ramen69> Tolken: how are you installing it? i found sideloading with adb was easiest when doing my nexus 4
[16:30] <Tolken> any one know what is the issue?
[16:31] <aliman> viGtor_, how can i change the font and the color?
[16:31] <viGtor_> aliman: but if people said it is not mantained any more and is vulnerable, why didn't you just choose the hexchat or irssi
[16:31] <viGtor_> ?
[16:31] <viGtor_> aliman: haven't used it for years... so i'm not sure but i think it gets everything from the whole system config
[16:31] <cfhowlett> !touch | Tolken, ask touch about phone issues
[16:31] <aliman> lol sry i was watching what you are writing didnt realised the others
[16:31] <viGtor_> aliman: like every other gnome app
[16:32] <ramen69> aliman: sudo apt-get --purge remove xchat && sduo apt-get install hexchat
[16:32] <ramen69> nooo i failed
[16:32] <Tolken> thanx
[16:33] <viGtor_> is anyone here using gnome-shell by the way?
[16:34] <zykotick9> ramen69: fyi, "... apt-get purge foo" was worked for a while now, and is less typing
[16:34] <viGtor_> i just wanted to know why is it considered as a 2nd class on ubuntu
[16:34] <ramen69> *thumbsup* zykotick9 ty
[16:35] <ramen69> viGtor_: because elitism
[16:35] <aliman> ok i'm on hexchat now :))
[16:35]  * archip is still paranoid that he had been using a vulnerable client for... quoite a few months
[16:35] <aliman> what would be the problem with xchat?
[16:35] <viGtor_> haha yeah but for a reagular user, does it affect in some way?
[16:35] <viGtor_> aliman: no updates for example
[16:35] <ramen69> http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-552/Xchat.html
[16:36] <archip> was CVE-2011-5129 fixed on the latest version?
[16:36] <viGtor_> i just find adwaita title bars too wide but its workflow is better than unity for my job
[16:37] <ramen69> any of you buttlords using putty?
[16:37] <viGtor_> (don't even understand the wars talking about GS is better, Unity is better, Kde is better)
[16:37] <aliman> viGtor_, ohh i understand
[16:38] <anomaly6> :)
[16:38] <ramen69> lol
[16:38] <viGtor_> aliman: ramen69 gave a link to you explaining some stuff you asked for :)
[16:38] <aliman> viGtor_, yeah i have seen it thx
[16:38] <viGtor_> np
[16:39] <viGtor_> aliman: can you share a screenshot of hexchat? wanna see it
[16:39] <d2l> vigtor_: there are many on google images
[16:40] <ramen69> viGtor_: similar to xchat with a bit more whitespace
[16:40] <viGtor_> oh yeah! it made me think to my old mirc! ^^
[16:41] <ramen69> aye
[16:41] <aliman> viGtor_, gimme 1 min i come back with the screen
[16:41] <Anonym> idc
[16:41] <Anonym> Someone learn me about objective c?
[16:41] <ramen69> viGtor_: cause you paid for a license right? ;)
[16:41] <viGtor_> yeah sure :P
[16:41] <Anonym> ramen 69?
[16:41] <Anonym> vigtor?
[16:42] <Anonym> Can you learn me objective c?
[16:42] <cfhowlett> Anonym, ##c is your channel
[16:42] <mguy> viGtor_: did anyone suggest mirc + wine
[16:42] <ramen69> Anonym: you're in the wrong place buddy :(
[16:42] <d2l> I wonder what percentage of mIRC users paid for a license. Had to be less than 5%
[16:42] <viGtor_> Anonym: I'm a translator, no idea of coding
[16:42] <mguy> d2l: are you counting malware-installed mirc? lol
[16:42] <Anonym> thanks
[16:43] <aliman> how do i remove hexchat and all the settings i did to it? i dont like it and i want it back to stock
[16:43] <viGtor_> d2l: i used it in some cibecafes when i was like 13 (10 years ago) lol
[16:43] <viGtor_> aliman: sudo apt-get purge hexchat
[16:43] <d2l> Yes it's been a good 10-15 years for me as well.
[16:44] <Anonym> viktor?
[16:44] <viGtor_> Anonym: yeas?
[16:44] <viGtor_> *yes?
[16:44] <Anonym> you know objective c?
[16:44] <aliman> viGtor_, it didn't removed everything. i reinstalled it and the settings are still here
[16:45] <Anonym> What channel was for me>=?
[16:45] <Anonym> viktor or allman said a channel for me
[16:45] <Anonym> what wus it+
[16:45] <ramen69> Anonym: /join ##c
[16:45] <Anonym> ?
[16:45] <viGtor_>  ##c
[16:45] <d2l> aliman: I would think it has a config file... something like ~/.hexchat ? I'm not on my linux machine to check
[16:45] <Anonym> 2 hachtags?
[16:45] <ramen69> ye
[16:45] <Anonym> ok
[16:45] <Anonym> thanks
[16:45] <Anonym> bye
[16:45] <ramen69> :D
[16:46] <user553> Need help for recovery after rm cmd
[16:46] <viGtor_> aliman: open nautilus and go to your home folder, then press ctrl+h and go to ./local > share  and there, remove the hexchat folder
[16:46] <viGtor_> i hate the way linux (and mac...) stores config after purging apps :S
[16:47] <ramen69> viGtor_: purging or removing?
[16:48] <viGtor_> both retain user config files, am i wrong?
[16:48] <ramen69> idk i always though purge deleted configs and dependencies
[16:48] <aliman> viGtor_, no hexchat there
[16:48] <d2l> aliman: rm ~/.config/hexchat/hexchat.conf
[16:48] <d2l> ?
[16:48] <viGtor_> ramen69: i think it removes everything out of the /home/usr folder
[16:49] <d2l> probably need to restart the app
[16:49] <viGtor_> then you should manually remove those folders from /home/usr
[16:49] <ramen69> Asiajey:   ~/.config/hexchat
[16:49] <ramen69> err ^ aliman
[16:49] <viGtor_> oops it was /.config sorry! (i'm too use to mac! lol)
[16:50] <viGtor_> aliman: found it?
[16:50] <Anonym> lol
[16:50] <Anonym> vigtor?
[16:50] <aliman> nop
[16:50] <Anonym> ##c noone is talking
[16:50] <Anonym> why=
[16:50] <aliman> viGtor_, whats the difference between purge and remove?
[16:51] <d2l> aliman: try the directory... rm -rf ~/.config/hexchat after you close the app
[16:51] <Anonym> someone here know how to code?
[16:51] <aliman> d2l, ok
[16:51] <Anonym> for ios?
[16:51] <ramen69> Anonym: try #objc on freenode?
[16:51] <viGtor_> aliman: d2l is right
[16:51] <d2l> aliman: i'm just guessing it saves the file when you close it, even after deleting it
[16:51] <Anonym> join objc?
[16:51] <cfhowlett> Anonym, this is not the ios programming channel.  please go to ios for support.  it's easy to find
[16:51] <viGtor_> Anonym: i just repeat the channel somebody gave to you, so no idea...
[16:51] <ramen69> Anonym: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3400179/what-is-a-good-irc-channel-for-objective-c-and-cocoa-programming
[16:52] <Anonym> what channel to join
[16:52] <Anonym> objc?
[16:52] <ramen69> omg please read
[16:52] <Anonym> thanks
[16:52] <Anonym> bye
[16:52] <viGtor_> Anonym: "/join #objc"
[16:53] <TheNumb> That anonym guy...
[16:54] <viGtor_> ramen69: lol that's kind of important when you write questions... just read the answers lol
[16:54] <Anonym> non of them works
[16:54] <Anonym> lol
[16:54] <Anonym> must be invited
[16:54] <Anonym> ffa
[16:54] <Anonym> ffs
[16:54] <viGtor_> Anonym: what are you exactly looking for?
[16:54] <Anonym> a person
[16:54] <Anonym> so can learn me
[16:55] <Anonym> to use objective c
[16:55] <Anonym> I am 14 years old and I am new to this
[16:55] <viGtor_> for free?
[16:55] <Anonym> uyes
[16:55] <Anonym> teach me
[16:55] <Anonym> how to get started
[16:55] <bekks> Anonym: Register a nickname.
[16:55] <Anonym> a nice person
[16:55] <TheNumb> Anonym: search for a tutorial...
[16:55] <Anonym> how do I register a nickname?
[16:55] <bekks> Then you will be able to join that channel.
[16:55] <Anonym> bekks?
[16:55] <bekks> !register
[16:55] <viGtor_> yeah right, nobody is going to teach you on irc :S
[16:55] <aliman> viGtor_, ok now it should be stock
[16:55] <Anonym> why
[16:55] <Anonym> not teach me?
[16:56] <viGtor_> cause this is not a university :P
[16:56] <viGtor_> tried Udemy?
[16:56] <Anonym> Lol
[16:56] <Anonym> how old are you
[16:56] <bekks> Anonym: Because your issue of wanting to learn Objective C has absolutely nothing to do with Ubuntu support.
[16:56] <Anonym> why are you using ubuntu?
[16:56] <Anonym> what is irssi for?
[16:57] <bekks> !info irssi | Anonym
[16:57] <viGtor_> aliman: let me know if it worked, i'm interested on it
[16:57] <viGtor_> Anonym: are you kidding me?
[16:57] <TheNumb> viGtor_: he's a troll.
[16:57] <Anonym> I just made it so I cann talk with my class when I am in school :D
[16:57] <Anonym> you can just use facebook..
[16:57] <Anonym> Lok
[16:57] <bekks> Facebook is not an IRC application.
[16:57] <aliman> viGtor_, this should be the screen you wanted http://i.imgur.com/9MeOG3A.png?1
[16:57] <bekks> Anonym: Do you have a specific Ubuntu support question?
[16:57] <Anonym> have a room for my class
[16:57] <aliman> if you want another one let me know
[16:57] <Anonym> bekks are you admin?
[16:58] <Loshki> Anonym: I'm not sure you can learn objc over irc. Any more than you could learn French that way. One well written book is worth a thousand wiki pages. Go to your local library...
[16:58] <Anonym> working with this?
[16:58] <bekks> Anonym: That doesnt matter.
[16:58] <Anonym> why are you yellow?
[16:58] <Anonym> and I am not
[16:58] <ramen69> lol
[16:58] <bekks> Anonym: Because I can. :) You are pink.
[16:58] <ObrienDave> no feeding trolls
[16:58] <cfhowlett> Anonym, https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ProgrammingWithObjectiveC/Introduction/Introduction.html
[16:58] <Anonym> are you working with ubuntu?
[16:58]  * ramen69 pets Anonym 
[16:58] <Anonym> I want to work here too
[16:58] <Anonym> LOL
[16:58] <Anonym> easy money
[16:58] <viGtor_> bekks: loooooooooooooooooool
[16:58] <bekks> viGtor_: No kidding about the colors :)
[16:59] <Anonym> thats cfhowlett
[16:59] <Anonym> thanks
[16:59] <viGtor_> ubuntu, money, work? nevermind :S go to Cupertino maybe you're cool enough to work with them :S:S
[16:59] <viGtor_> bekks: haha I guess but the reply was amazing thou :)
[16:59] <aliman> viGtor_, yes it worked is ok
[17:00] <Anonym> can I work here?
[17:00] <Anonym> please
[17:00] <viGtor_> aliman: cool so I guess the diff between purge and remove should be the level of "removin" apps, i think purge deletes everyting aut of your /home and remove just app files (not global config)
[17:01] <viGtor_> *out
[17:02] <EriC^^> viGtor_: purge removes the config files, everything in the user's homes is untouched
[17:02] <aliman> viGtor_, did you seen the screen?
[17:02] <EriC^^> it removes the config files and the app files ( like remove too )
[17:03] <aliman> how i can get rid of this? i think is there since i removed xchat http://i.imgur.com/Us3QIUM.jpg?1
[17:04] <xangua> aliman: if you still have xchat indicator, remove it and log out/log in
[17:04] <viGtor_> aliman: ill do right now
[17:04] <aliman> xangua, i deleted xchat folder
[17:04] <viGtor_> oh yeah, i never used unity so i don't know how it works
[17:05] <agronholm> is there a specific channel for 15.04?
[17:05] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1
[17:05] <agronholm> thanks
[17:05] <viGtor_> should be ubuntu+1
[17:05] <sadris> I am on laptop with an nvidia card. I got bumblebee to work. However, why is glxgears linked to libnvidia-tls.so.304.125 ? I want to also get GLX working with my intel CPU
[17:05] <sadris> when I run glxgears it complains about missing NVidia extensions
[17:06] <viGtor_> xangua: GOSH you're still around? I think I've seen you here for the first time like 7 years ago
[17:06] <viGtor_> haha
[17:06] <hubjon11> I know its a bit off topic from Ubuntu, but its kinda like coding, and this is the only populated tech room. Im making a super simple Actioncsript in Flash, where I have an invisible button, and it links to a website. This is probably a stupid question, but how do I compile the code, since I dont see a button anywhere to do so. Thanks!
[17:06] <aliman> can someone tell me what are those white files? isit right to be there? http://i.imgur.com/zSLPWuZ.png?1
[17:07] <viGtor_> aliman: in nautilus
[17:07] <viGtor_> press ctrl+h
[17:07] <cfhowlett> !compile | hubjon11
[17:07] <viGtor_> (you did it before, for showing hide folders)
[17:08] <rypervenche> aliman: They are hidden files (files beginning with the .)
[17:08] <hubjon11> where do i do !compile cfhowlett?
[17:08] <rypervenche> aliman: They are your user-specific configuration files and error files.
[17:08] <aliman> viGtor_, i can press ctrl+h only on home or so...and then i find nautilus folder there
[17:08] <photon> How can I find files which have any group or other permissions set (ie files whose last two permission octals are not 00) ? This is what I have so far: find . ! -perm ... # Not sure what I need here.
[17:09] <viGtor_> is anyone using a macbook with ubuntu? i'm in the need of some keyboard stuff
[17:09] <aliman> rypervenche, do you see any error there? :))
[17:09] <cfhowlett> hubjon11, where ever you want ... but do please read the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[17:09] <viGtor_> aliman: when i say nautilus i mean the app
[17:09] <viGtor_> go to your ~/usr
[17:09] <hubjon11> u do know that this is all in adobe Flash.
[17:09] <hubjon11> correct
[17:09] <aliman> i searched in dash for nautilus but found 0
[17:09] <rypervenche> aliman: They are normal files. The .xsession-errors is where X errors would show up. You don't need to worry about them. Press ctrl+h to hid the files.
[17:09] <viGtor_> and then again ctrl+h it should hide unhidden folders
[17:11] <viGtor_> nautilus, files (it is the file browser, don't know what name ubuntu gives to it)
[17:11] <aliman> well then i can not find it :))
[17:11] <viGtor_> haha wait
[17:11] <aliman> if i dont know the name :)
[17:11] <viGtor_> do the following...
[17:12] <viGtor_> into the /home folder (the one that's on your screenshot)
[17:12] <EriC^^> aliman: it's called files in the dash
[17:12] <viGtor_> and there, just press ctrl+h
[17:12] <viGtor_> that's all
[17:12] <aliman> viGtor_, that's what i did :)
[17:13] <TheNumb> aliman: is that a Moto G?
[17:13] <TheNumb> :DD
[17:13] <aliman> viGtor_, there's where i did the screen
[17:13] <aliman> TheNumb, yes it is nexus 6
[17:13] <TheNumb> hmm, so no moto g ;<
[17:14] <aliman> TheNumb, aaaa no sry :P is nexus 6
[17:14] <aliman> TheNumb, moto g i thought u mean motorola google :))
[17:15] <aliman> i had iphone 6 but i got rid of it. i wanted to buy moto g but to cheap so i bought nexus 6 :))
[17:15] <viGtor_> aliman: yes, where the screenshot
[17:16] <viGtor_> is it possible to sync iphone 5s music with ubuntu?
[17:16] <cfhowlett> !phone | viGtor_
[17:16] <aliman> ohh god it takes a life to install 4.2 gb of maps on my gps
[17:16] <viGtor_> aliman: is it your first time using linux?
[17:17] <viGtor_> cfhowlett: not ubuntu touch, i mean between ubuntu laptop and iphone
[17:17] <aliman> viGtor_, yes is 1st time. i just installed it yesterday
[17:17] <cfhowlett> !itunes  viGtor_
[17:18] <cfhowlett> !itunes | viGtor_
[17:18] <aliman> viGtor_, but i don't regret this and i think i'll never switch back on windows
[17:18] <viGtor_> aliman: so don't get dessesperated even if the situation is a mess, my boyfriend always tells me i waste my time using ubuntu and owing a macbook pro but 3 days ago i almost loose a client because a mac issue... so LINUX FOREVER
[17:18] <paulo_> hello
[17:18] <paulo_> how do i?
[17:19]  * viGtor_ gonna have an amazing café ^^
[17:19] <aliman> lol why did you bought a macbook thats pretty expensive if you use linux on it
[17:20] <aliman> umm i think i didn't got an asnwer for how i can get rid of http://i.imgur.com/Us3QIUM.jpg?1
[17:20] <ther0x57> Hello
[17:20] <aliman> or i might did not see it :P
[17:20] <ther0x57> I need some help with plank on Linux MATE
[17:20] <bekks> aliman: Because " a macbook being expensive" (which isnt true in all terms) doesnt mean you should not run the OS that fits your needs best.
[17:21] <ther0x57> Anyone know much about 'Plank'?
[17:21] <CptRageToaster> ther0x57: A bit
[17:21] <ther0x57> The simple dock application for Linux?
[17:21] <TheNumb> ther0x57: what do you want to know?
[17:21] <aliman> bekks, i feel you but i think what makes macbook special is the os why should you change it? isn't better to buy a cheaper laptop or pc and put linux? isn't the same thing?
[17:22] <ther0x57> I'm having trouble with it. My theme switcher works perfectly, but the theme doesn't appear to be changing/ the dock size, the app icons, etc
[17:22] <ther0x57> the only thing that's changing is the dock color involved in the theme
[17:23] <CptRageToaster> ther0x57: Plank may not listen to your themes.... Plank doesn't really have any themes that I know of though... so what did you expect to change?
[17:23] <CptRageToaster> icons?
[17:23] <ther0x57> Yes. As well as the dock size.
[17:24] <CptRageToaster> so, Plank was packaged and release by the team developing ElementaryOS... (This is all "I think")
[17:24] <CptRageToaster> If I understand everything correctly, then they didn't do a very good job packaging up that for other systems
[17:24] <ther0x57> Yes. It comes preinstalled in Ubuntu MATE
[17:24] <CptRageToaster> in elementaryOS, you can install "elementary tweaks" and you get a little configuration window
[17:24] <CptRageToaster> that lets you configure system-wide icons
[17:25] <CptRageToaster> and of course, theres a place for specific Plank configurations
[17:25] <ther0x57> Ubuntu mate is such a wonderful platform. :D
[17:25] <CptRageToaster> I'm not sure if you need to look at mate a bit more for a similar "add configuration options" package
[17:25] <CptRageToaster> or if you need to dig into the properties files for Plank somehow
[17:26] <aliman> to bad there are to many linuxtypes. should be only 1 and thats all. i don't know what to chose from so many :)
[17:26] <ther0x57> Well, the dock colors (involved in the theme) changes. But nothing else changes.
[17:26] <CptRageToaster> do you have the gsettings.conf editor thingy installed?
[17:26] <CptRageToaster> there might be some configuration options in there
[17:26] <travnewmatic> seeking grub help, http://pastebin.com/a9WWdSSA
[17:26] <ther0x57> The pictures for each theme look so cool! But the theme doesn't change anything but my dock color
[17:27] <ther0x57> I'll look at it
[17:27] <cxdvty> What is magento?
[17:27] <travnewmatic> update-grub and os-prober are seeing the os's that i want it to see, namely vivid and utopic and windows
[17:28] <travnewmatic> but im only getting menu options for utopic and windows
[17:28] <bekks> aliman: Despite it has nothing to do with Ubuntu support (and thus this will be my only comment), it is not the same, no.
[17:28] <cxdvty> bekks: what is magento
[17:28] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: moment please
[17:28] <ther0x57> CptRageToaster: Do you have Plank installed?
[17:28] <bekks> cxdvty: Why do you think I'll google it for you? :)
[17:28] <travnewmatic> Thanks CptRageToaster
[17:28] <CptRageToaster> ther0x57: I run elementaryOS... so yes
[17:28] <cxdvty> bekks: I was seeing if you knew
[17:29] <che2> thinking about switching from vim to emacs, it looks like it's better for using as a html/css ide
[17:29] <bekks> cxdvty: I do know, but it is very easy for you to find out too.
[17:29] <aliman> bekks, ohh man if it is a ubuntu support means that i cannot say anything else here only if i have a problem lol? did i kill anyone by this?
[17:29] <ther0x57> CptRageToaster: Do your Plank themes change the dock size and icons?
[17:29] <bekks> aliman: This isnt the place for offtopic chat, thats all.
[17:30] <che2> i'm a total noob, taking a intro web developer course, but it's way faster for me to make edits in the terminal than opening an ide like phpstorm, and vim doesn't do any auto indent, auto ending brackets or anything
[17:30] <aliman> bekks, don't worry man it won't happen again :)
[17:30] <CptRageToaster> ther0x57: They change the color and shape of the background... some of the themes change spacing... but I only have 3 available
[17:30] <CptRageToaster> and none of them change size
[17:30] <TheNumb> che2: vim does auto indentation
[17:30] <TheNumb> che2: need to set it up to do so :)
[17:31] <cxdvty> bekks: Why are everyone dicks on every forum for ubuntu and android? Why waste time to google something that somebody in the help forums already know? It is a waste of my time and I have stuff to do
[17:31] <bekks> cxdvty: And we have better things to do than googling for you.
[17:31] <ther0x57> CptRageToaster: By shape of the background, do you mean the shape of the dock behind the icons?
[17:31] <cxdvty> You are not very smart for people who sit around and help people all day
[17:31] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: ok
[17:31] <cxdvty> someone not people
[17:31] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: In your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:31] <bekks> cxdvty: We spend out time here with solving Ubuntu problems, not with casual googling for people being to lazy to do it.
[17:31] <CptRageToaster> You should see ALL of the entries you see at boot
[17:32] <cxdvty> Why google something you already know?
[17:32] <travnewmatic> CptRageToaster, http://pastebin.com/siS47nF4
[17:32] <CptRageToaster> TechChristoph: Yes
[17:32] <cxdvty> That's not very smart bro :)
[17:32]  * ther0x57 Shots fired...
[17:32] <bekks> cxdvty: This discussion just ended. Take it elsewhere please and let this channel support people.
[17:32] <CptRageToaster> ther0x57: Yes
[17:32]  * ther0x57 machine gun noises in the background...
[17:32] <cxdvty> Why support them when they can go google for themselves. (your words not mine)
[17:33] <aliman> cxdvty, yes he already might know but if u need a command or something im not sure he knows it by himself he cant learn all the stuffs so he need to google it to and copy it for ya so...
[17:33] <bekks> cxdvty: This discussion is over. Move on.
[17:33] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: reading this, moment please
[17:33] <CptRageToaster> this = your link
[17:34] <cxdvty> aliman: I can't go to a website because magenta keeps popping up. If you guys are too good to help someone ON THE HELP CHANNEL then you should go elsewhere
[17:34] <ther0x57> CptRageToaster: That's what I mean by dock size, lol. My dock's actual form/shape doesn't change when I switch themes. it's always just a boring square.
[17:34] <cxdvty> And don't contradict yourself by saying I can go google for myself when you are constantly telling me to leave so you can go support other people
[17:34] <CptRageToaster> ther0x57: For example: My "transparent" theme makes the background box thingy disappear
[17:35] <aliman> cxdvty, can't remember everything from his head sry u know what i mean anyways
[17:35] <cxdvty> aliman: its ok
[17:35] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: I'm not 100% on this
[17:35] <travnewmatic> mm?
[17:35] <ther0x57> CptRageToaster: I've switched to that theme several times actually! Mine doesn't do that! It stays a square dock!
[17:35] <CptRageToaster> but several of the `menuentry`s have the same name
[17:36] <aliman> cxdvty, i would like to help ya out but im here for help aswell i just joined linux so...
[17:36] <aliman> cxdvty, anyways lets end this, like bekks said is not an offtopic channel
[17:36] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: what OS are you on right now?
[17:36] <ther0x57> Maybe removing and reinstalling plank might help?
[17:36] <CptRageToaster> ther0x57: Maybe?
[17:37] <CptRageToaster> I honestly don't know
[17:37] <travnewmatic> CptRageToaster, grepped for menuentry http://pastebin.com/2Keq6S0X i'm on utopic right now
[17:37] <ther0x57> I'm a perfectionist. If something doesn't look good, it has to be fixed. Lol.
[17:37] <aliman> can any1 tell me the command for rar archive?
[17:37] <ther0x57> Later, I'm gonna eat supper. I'll hop on this channel later today.
[17:39] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: I wish I knew more about this... do you know if vivid is also using the 3.16 kernel?
[17:39] <travnewmatic> CptRageToaster, mmmm
[17:39] <travnewmatic> not sure
[17:40] <CptRageToaster> well... they have different build numbers anways
[17:40] <CptRageToaster> one is 3.16.0.23, the other is 3.16.0.33
[17:40] <CptRageToaster> if you run the command:
[17:40] <CptRageToaster> uname -a
[17:40] <CptRageToaster> you should see 3.16.0.23
[17:40] <CptRageToaster> please confirm
[17:40] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: ^
[17:42] <travnewmatic> Linux utopic 3.16.0-33-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 12 12:19:35 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:42] <CptRageToaster> Oh interesting... let me read what you said eariler
[17:42] <CptRageToaster> so, you have two menu-entries in that grub.cfg
[17:42] <aliman> viGtor_, you still here?
[17:42] <TheNumb> CptRageToaster: vivid is using 3.19
[17:42] <TheNumb> ;-)
[17:43] <CptRageToaster> one for 3.16.0.23 and 3.16.0.33.... apparently only one shows up...
[17:43] <CptRageToaster> and vivid is NOWHERE to be found
[17:43] <aliman> guys is it rythmbox music player ok or there is something much better?
[17:43] <TheNumb> CptRageToaster: you mean in the repos?
[17:43] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: Could it be a permissions issue?
[17:43] <travnewmatic> CptRageToaster, thats right, despite the fact that os-prober and grub-update DO see vivid
[17:43] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: Where?
[17:43] <CptRageToaster> I don't see those scripts "seeing vivid"
[17:44] <CptRageToaster> ahh ok, last line: Found Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch) (15.04) on /dev/sda8
[17:44] <CptRageToaster> well... two things
[17:44] <CptRageToaster> seeing as this is a vivid issue, I'm obligated to suggest moving the convo to #ubuntu+1
[17:45] <CptRageToaster> second, maybe it's a permissions issue in the /boot folder, or wherever your release is living
[17:45] <travnewmatic> CptRageToaster, http://pastebin.com/NaU3NwPW
[17:46] <CptRageToaster> travnewmatic: ./join #ubuntu+1
[17:47] <travnewmatic> CptRageToaster, hnnng alright fine
[17:47] <CptRageToaster> I know ._.
[17:47] <travnewmatic> though time consuming
[17:48] <travnewmatic> perhaps i could try a similar setup with LTS and utopic
[17:48] <CptRageToaster> well, the long story short is: It should work... if you move to ubuntu+1, I have a couple more stick pokes
[17:48] <CptRageToaster> and then you can leave your direct question in that channel
[17:48] <travnewmatic> or just say screw my fancy plans of having a shared /home and /boot with separate /'s for each os
[17:49] <travnewmatic> yeah this should totally work
[17:49] <travnewmatic> i shall ask in there
[17:57] <RonWhoCares> how do I add a .TTF (true typefont) to my Ubuntu 14
[17:58] <DJones> !ronts | RonWhoCares This may help if you've not already seen it,
[17:58] <DJones> !fonts | RonWhoCares This may help if you've not already seen it,
[18:00] <RonWhoCares> ahh
[18:02] <ubuntuuberuser> i have issue with 15.04 mate ed
[18:02] <SchrodingersScat> !15.04 | ubuntuuberuser
[18:02] <ubuntuuberuser> ok
[18:04] <zerowaitstate> what happens after we get to z?
[18:07] <sumon> #
[18:07] <sumon>       
[18:07] <HackerII> is 15.04 tls ?
[18:07] <HackerII> lts
[18:07] <sumon>      
[18:07] <DJones> HackerII: no
[18:07] <HackerII> ok
[18:08] <DJones> Next LTS is 16.04
[18:08] <zerowaitstate> That will be the XX release
[18:08] <HackerII> ive been out of the loop for a year, and am wanting to know how stable 14.04 is, truthfully
[18:08] <sumon> sumon
[18:08] <zerowaitstate> HackerII: very
[18:08] <bekks> HackerII: Works fine.
[18:09] <zerowaitstate> HackerII: i run it on both laptops and servers
[18:09] <HackerII> again, thanks for your time
[18:09] <HackerII> nice
[18:10] <HackerII> one more question, does it support mate ?
[18:10] <zerowaitstate> my coworker was thinking of getting an Ubuntu laptop instead of MacBook after seeing me use 14.04 at work, if that tells you anything
[18:10] <TheNumb> zerowaitstate: hopefully not a system76 laptop.
[18:11] <HackerII> whats wrong with 76
[18:11] <ioria> prices ?
[18:12] <TheNumb> build quality
[18:12] <HackerII> huh
[18:12] <travnewmatic> so during the install, if i dont check 'format' it should leave the contents of that partition alone right?
[18:16] <EriC^^> travnewmatic: what are you trying to do?
[18:17] <travnewmatic> EriC^^, i'm attempting to have one swap /boot and /home shared between utopic and vivid, with vivid and utopic each having their own /
[18:17] <travnewmatic> but as i've discovered the necessary files for vivid are not in /boot, despite os-prober and update-grub seeing the other operating system
[18:18] <jhutchins> travnewmatic: The problem with that is that you have different versions of config files under $HOME.
[18:18] <travnewmatic> jhutchins, that was a problem that i was supposing i might have
[18:19] <travnewmatic> though i wasnt sure how problematic that would actually be
[18:19] <jhutchins> travnewmatic: You might consider seperate /home and a shared data storage area.
[18:19] <daniel_> How come the usb disk creator just never works
[18:20] <travnewmatic> jhutchins, that might be a better idea actually
[18:20] <jhutchins> travnewmatic: I don't know how much of a problem it would be, you could just try it and learn.
[18:20] <travnewmatic> jhutchins, yes, this mutliboot thing has been my weekend project :D
[18:20] <travnewmatic> alright, going down for a reboot, wish me luck!
[18:21] <Quantos> Sounds like longer than a weekend :)
[18:23] <daniel_> I'm getting errors when trying to use usb disk creator. And using unetbootin doesn't show any usb disks to write to
[18:24] <JinjaNinja> Hello
[18:24] <jhutchins> daniel_: Do you have a working linux installation?
[18:25] <JinjaNinja> jhutchins: Do you know anything about Plank, the linux dock?
[18:27] <jhutchins> JinjaNinja: Nope, sorry.
[18:27] <ubuntuuberuser> i know about plank
[18:27] <ubuntuuberuser> i deleted it some moment ago
[18:27] <ubuntuuberuser> nice choice to delete something
[18:28] <JinjaNinja> ubuntuuberuser: My paddings don't change/ the dock inlay doesn't change when I switch themes.
[18:30] <ubuntuuberuser> JinjaNinja, click about and find authors site
[18:30] <ubuntuuberuser> it must be helpful
[18:30] <guest-PXWIKM> hello does anyone know the default password to ubuntu mate?
[18:31] <EriC^^> there's no default password i think
[18:31] <JinjaNinja> guest-PXWIKM: There shouldn't be a default password.
[18:31] <bekks> There is none.
[18:31] <daniel_> jhutchins, I'm on Linux
[18:31] <guest-PXWIKM> I just set it up and it wont let me log in.
[18:31] <JinjaNinja> guest-PXWIKM: I'm currently running Ubuntu MATE
[18:31] <EriC^^> guest-PXWIKM: use your username and password
[18:32] <guest-PXWIKM> I have to run it under guest ;/
[18:32] <ubuntuuberuser> guest-PXWIKM, you set password during install. in livecd mode password blank
[18:32] <guest-PXWIKM> Im using the raspberry pi so it just fired up.
[18:33] <ubuntuuberuser> try empty password
[18:33] <ubuntuuberuser> or ubuntu\ubuntu
[18:33] <guest-PXWIKM> I tried that it did not work.
[18:34] <ubuntuuberuser> what says docs where you get distr?
[18:34] <guest-PXWIKM> I can try ubuntu as the password
[18:34] <EriC^^> guest-PXWIKM: reset your password from the recovery
[18:34] <guest-PXWIKM> can i do any of this as a guest?
[18:34] <EriC^^> nope
[18:35] <ubuntuuberuser> recovery is a good method. reboot rpi to rescue mode and do "passwd username"
[18:35] <EriC^^> guest-PXWIKM: you have to select recovery under advanced in grub
[18:36] <EriC^^> then select drop to root shell, and type mount -o remount,rw /
[18:36] <guest-PXWIKM> Alright thanks :) I will try that.
[18:36] <EriC^^> then passwd <user>
[18:36] <ubuntuuberuser> EriC^^, hm.. in rescue mode root in ro mode?
[18:36] <zykotick9> !password
[18:37] <EriC^^> ubuntuuberuser: yeah, unless you choose enable networking too, but that can hang sometimes
[18:39] <muka_> hi guys!
[18:40] <guest-PXWIKM> Ok thanks again :)
[18:42] <degva> hello guys, I'm using a gamepad DragonRise and when testing it with evtest I get this: http://pastebin.com/W3tAsdJ2
[18:43] <degva> on ubuntu 14.04 it shows 7 axis but on 14.10 shows 6 axis
[18:43] <degva> how can I make ubuntu 14.10 to recognize the other axis?
[18:44] <aliman> guys is there a better music player then rythmbox?
[18:44] <degva> hello?
[18:44] <TheNumb> is it me you're looking for?
[18:45] <degva> TheNumb :(
[18:46] <TheNumb> degva: maybe the driver is lacking.
[18:46] <TheNumb> you never know
[18:46] <degva> TheNumb but how can I know which...
[18:46] <degva> Oh
[18:46] <degva> Damn it, I'll go back to 14.04
[18:47] <degva> :'(
[18:47] <AkashicLegend> if I have a bunch of files named example1, example2, example and examples
[18:47] <AkashicLegend> how do I delete them all using rm
[18:47] <AkashicLegend> except for example
[18:47] <AkashicLegend> I tried rm example*
[18:47] <AkashicLegend> but it deleted everything
[18:48] <EriC^^> AkashicLegend: rm example[0-9]
[18:49] <AkashicLegend> yeah but one of them ends in a s
[18:49] <AkashicLegend> I can't just use that
[18:50] <excelsiora> how do I get the bash source from the repos? Not familiar with getting sources from repos, would like to start.
[18:50] <zykotick9> AkashicLegend: two commands then "rm example[a-z]*" as well, assuming they're lowercase
[18:50] <EriC^^> AkashicLegend: there's a bunch of ways, you could use find ! -name "example" -exec rm '{}' \'
[18:50] <pavlos> AkashicLegend, how 'bout moving example some place else and then delete the rest ...
[18:52] <EriC^^> AkashicLegend: * '{}' \;
[18:52] <AkashicLegend> ok
[19:00] <zykotick9> excelsiora: "apt-get source bash" <- sudo not required, will download the source for you, into the current directory
[19:01] <Guest39012> confused
[19:06] <Guest39012> yup samme
[19:06] <Guest39012> quit
[19:10] <meh32> hey guys, is there a way to force ubutnu desktop to only use IPv6 and comletely disable Ipv4 ?
[19:12] <archip> meh32: network icon>edit connections>press edit on the one you want>ipv4>disable
[19:13] <archip> make sure ipv6 is enabled
[19:16] <meh32> thanks archip
[19:16] <sidi> hi, currently developing patches for nautilus's ubuntu package. i know how to add patches and rebuild a deb, but what i want now is to build a source tree with all the existing patches added, so i can test my code on top of this tree
[19:17] <sidi> how can i achieve that?
[19:17] <EriC^^> "'
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> sidi  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel... better ask there, i guess
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> sidi  or start there
[19:21] <sidi> MonkeyDust, thanks, good idea
[19:27] <Lelostrik> how can I set dns server on ubuntu? I tryed uncomment "prepend"  in "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf" but, running wireshark, I detected that my names still being solved by my default internet provider dns server
[19:27] <progfunk> can someone tell me an easy way to stop x? :S when I try "sudo service mdm stop" the screen goes completely black and nothing happens..
[19:28] <Lelostrik> sudo service lightdm stop
[19:28] <Lelostrik> progfunk: sudo service lightdm stop
[19:28] <TheNumb> Lelostrik: he's obviously not using lightdm
[19:29] <TheNumb> progfunk: you probably need to switch to a different vt
[19:29] <progfunk> I was pretty sure this install is'n using lightdm
[19:29] <EriC^^> progfunk: mint?
[19:29] <progfunk> yeah
[19:29] <TheNumb> !mint
[19:29] <EriC^^> lol
[19:29] <progfunk> ;P
[19:29] <TheNumb> progfunk: alt+f1-f8
[19:29] <TheNumb> ;p
[19:30] <progfunk> yeahyeah .. its almost completely the same .. I tried ubuntu first.. got the same problem there
[19:30] <EriC^^> progfunk: yeah try pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[19:30] <progfunk> hm .. ok? well, I guess .. byebye then ;P
[19:30] <progfunk> if it works
[19:30] <TheNumb> it won't stop X
[19:31] <TheNumb> it will just switch you to a different vt
[19:31] <EriC^^> progfunk: i mean after you stop mdm press ctrl+alt+f1
[19:31] <EriC^^> it's probably stopping lightdm at tty8 and leaving you there
[19:31] <EriC^^> on ubuntu it kicks you to tty1
[19:32] <TheNumb> mdm is buggy
[19:32] <TheNumb> just like gdm2 was
[19:32] <progfunk> hey again, got the same black screen, had to restart :7
[19:32] <TheNumb> xD
[19:32] <pi-> Is there any way to view all of my histories?  I've tried doing history from root and from my single user.  But it must be missing something -- somewhere I have installed mediawiki, and listing these histories doesn't show any trace of that.  ( http://hastebin.com/uhazonases.avrasm )
[19:33] <EriC^^> progfunk: after you stop mdm, press ctrl+alt+f1
[19:33] <pi-> It might be related to having 2 simultaneous sessions -- I've never worked out how that plays out with history
[19:33] <pi-> (I'm administering a remote Ubuntu VM)
[19:34] <zykotick9> EriC^^: i'd suggest NOT offering support for mint/etc. in ubuntu... it only encourages others to ask questions here, instead of the proper channel...
[19:34] <ubuntu969> This might seem like a silly question but If I create a bootable ubuntu usb can I save stuff to my hard drive etc
[19:34] <ubuntu969> Ive been using virtual machine lately for coding
[19:34] <EriC^^> zykotick9: true true, it's a minor issue though
[19:35] <ubuntu969> A usb would be cool though
[19:35] <ubuntu969> In virtual machine I assigned hard drive  space and memory but how does this work with a usb?
[19:35] <EriC^^> pi-: how did you install mediawiki?
[19:35] <TheNumb> ubuntu969: you can create a usb install with persistent storage.
[19:35] <TheNumb> But I wouldn't recommend that.
[19:35] <ubuntu969> ok
[19:36] <TheNumb> The performance is bad
[19:36] <ubuntu969> What would you recommend
[19:36] <TheNumb> And the usb drive will die sooner.
[19:36] <TheNumb> ubuntu969: you using windows?
[19:36] <ubuntu969> yup
[19:36] <thrasher194> |0op['
[19:37] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu969: Consider all usb drives already dead.  But yes, you could mount the drives while in the usb if you wanted.  It'll be slow, it's relying on the speed of the thumbdrive.
[19:37] <TheNumb> ubuntu969: do you feel comfortable using ubuntu?
[19:37] <EriC^^> pi-: nevermind
[19:37] <pi-> EriC^^: thanks, you jogged my memory to look at the tutorial I followed, and now I can see it.
[19:37] <ubuntu969> total noob. Only using it because its easier to code with
[19:37] <TheNumb> ubuntu969: I'd suggest watching a tutorial on how to install ubuntu alongside windows. There are lots of them on youtube.
[19:37] <ubuntu969> meteor javascript
[19:37] <ubuntu969> ok cool
[19:38] <TheNumb> ubuntu969: or you could refer to the official documentation.
[19:38] <ubuntu969> So essentially splitting my laptop into 2 OS's?
[19:38] <pi-> Still, none of the commands I entered in following this tutorial are visible when I inspect my command history.  There must somewhere be another history...
[19:38] <TheNumb> ubuntu969: yup.
[19:38] <SchrodingersScat> !dualboot | ubuntu969
[19:38] <EriC^^> pi-: did you issue any sudo commands?
[19:39] <ubuntu969> Ok...hmmm I might just stick with virtual box. I like the fact that I can assign whatever I want and delete the machine if I need to.
[19:39] <pi-> EriC^^: yes, do those not make it through to history?
[19:39] <EriC^^> they do
[19:39] <EriC^^> what was the command?
[19:40] <ubuntu969> Is virtual machine an ok way of doing this?
[19:40] <TheNumb> ubuntu969: if it works for you, why not?
[19:40] <ubuntu969> Ok cool.
[19:40] <bekks> ubuntu969: For creating an USB persistent install? Not really.
[19:41] <Lelostrik> srs, how can i set dns server permanently?
[19:41] <bekks> ubuntu969: vbox doesnt support booting from USB.
[19:41] <TheNumb> bekks: not usb install
[19:41] <TheNumb> ;p
[19:41] <TheNumb> for development
[19:41] <TheNumb> ;-)
[19:41] <bekks> 0329 213443 < ubuntu969> This might seem like a silly question but If I create a bootable ubuntu usb can I save stuff to my hard drive etc
[19:42] <TheNumb> bekks: <ubuntu969> Ok...hmmm I might just stick with virtual box. I like the fact that I can assign whatever I want and delete the machine if I need to.
[19:42] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu969: ok for what purpose?
[19:42] <bekks> TheNumb: I guess he'll find a way :)
[19:43] <ubuntu969> I guess I thought booting from a usb would be super cool...like a spy from the 90's...
[19:45] <TheNumb> lol
[19:45] <TheNumb> USB in the 90s was too slow ;p
[19:46] <pi-> If I want to copy /x/y/z to ./z where z is a folder containing other folders, and . doesn't contain a z folder, what's the right way to do it?
[19:46] <bekks> pi-: cp -r /x/y/z .
[19:46] <monty_hall> is there a package that allows me to loginto ubuntu like windows remote desktop?
[19:47] <pi-> thanks bekks
[19:47] <monty_hall> in other words, I don't have to loginto windows .  a few command line command to allow me to connect via vnc., etc
[19:47] <TheNumb> monty_hall: many options
[19:47] <TheNumb> monty_hall: x2go would be one of them
[19:47] <monty_hall> I mean just open up a view in windows point to my box, and Isee the ubuntu login and log int, etc.
[19:48] <monty_hall> TheNumb: Thanks, I'll look
[19:48] <TheNumb> monty_hall: also, freenx
[19:53] <oldsk00l> i i have installd ubuntu 14.04 but after install it wojnt boot i only get a dark screen wit a blinking -
[19:53] <ghost_> hello
[19:53] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | oldsk00l
[19:54] <oldsk00l> oke may becos i have dual screen :P
[19:54] <EriC^^> the primary one should still work
[19:58] <oldsk00l> EriC^^: if i use one screen than it wil be ok
[20:00] <chotaz> Hello guys, is this the proper channel for support on the various linux flavours? or does each have it's own channel?
[20:00] <themusicgod1> chotaz: each flavour has its own channel
[20:00] <oldsk00l> indeed
[20:00] <oldsk00l> :P
[20:00] <TheNumb> !flavors
[20:01] <chotaz> I'm alone in UbuntuMATE :(
[20:01] <themusicgod1> !xubuntu
[20:01] <oldsk00l> chotaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[20:01] <chotaz> !ubuntumate
[20:01] <oldsk00l> :P
[20:03] <makeru> Is there any good graphical keyboard remapping software?  I have a keyboard that presents the F# keys as multimedia keys, and requires the Fn key to be held to use F1-12, and I would like to remap them to the opposite.
[20:03] <chotaz> Well, I want to know how I can automount my secondary hdd on startup so I can have it immediately available for use by other services such as my torrents and mediacenter services.
[20:04] <EriC^^> makeru: is it a laptop?
[20:04] <EriC^^> !fstab | chotaz
[20:04] <makeru> EriC^^ it's a wireless keyboard
[20:05] <EriC^^> oh ok nevermind
[20:05] <makeru> Logitech K400r
[20:05] <makeru> Why do you ask?
[20:05] <EriC^^> cause you can sometimes change that in the bios in laptops
[20:05] <makeru> Ah, ok, makes sense
[20:06] <cjanikdev> so for some reason my computer can't find the ath0 service. Can anyone assist me?
[20:06] <makeru> It's a great keyboard, but giving up F5 and F6 has been a struggle, since I hit them instinctively
[20:06] <EriC^^> makeru: maybe xbindkeys can help it has a gui i think not sure if it would help with the fn keys etc.
[20:07] <EriC^^> xbindkeys-config is the gui app
[20:07] <makeru> I know Fn can't be rebound, but I should be able to rebind "Refresh" for example to F4, and vice versa, so that Fn+Key triggers the multimedia key instead of the Function key
[20:08] <cjanikdev> Is there anyone who can help me with my wifi problem? It would be much appreciated.
[20:08] <makeru> Installing now, but I think I've already tried it
[20:09] <cjanikdev> I guess not.
[20:09] <makeru> Installed xbindkeys, and xbindkeys-gui wasn't installed and isn't found by apt-get
[20:10] <lck> hello
[20:10] <makeru> cjanikdev you may have better luck troubleshooting on a forum for wifi issues, since it's not really a quick fix
[20:10] <chotaz> !partitions
[20:10] <EriC^^> makeru: it's xbindkeys-config
[20:10] <makeru> oops, I can't read
[20:11] <EriC^^> :P
[20:11] <cjanikdev> I've tried the forums for wifi issues, they really don't help.
[20:11] <daftykins> chotaz: easy, mount it in /etc/fstab
[20:13] <makeru> Segfaults as soon as I try to bind a key
[20:13] <makeru> I'll try it again on my ChromeBox, since that's the actual machine I use this keyboard on
[20:13] <makeru> Just switched to this one for now since I spilled beer on my main keyboard
[20:14] <EriC^^> that sucks, i recently spilled a soda on my laptop's keyboard, it's toast
[20:14] <makeru>  My keyboard is a fucking monster
[20:15] <makeru> I just tossed it in the bathtub and turned it on.
[20:15] <makeru> Which I have done several times
[20:15] <EriC^^> i've spilled pepsi, coffee, and other stuff but they always survived, -1 hp :P
[20:15] <makeru> I bought it in 2002-2003
[20:16] <bekks> 12As long as your keyboard doesnt order pizza on its own, it cant be that frightening.
[20:16] <TheNumb> pizza is not frightening
[20:16] <EriC^^> i wish my keyboard would order pizza
[20:16] <bekks> EriC^^: The downside would be it will bite you when you try to grab some pizza ;)
[20:16] <makeru> It was like a $20 keyboard I bought as an add-on to my Dell laptop before I went to college.  I only kept it so long because it doesn't have any ghosting issues
[20:17] <EriC^^> bekks: hehe
[20:17] <daftykins> makeru: don't use that language here again please. keep it family friendly!
[20:22] <makeru> daftykins I doubt there are many children on this channel
[20:22] <daftykins> makeru: that's not for you to decide :)
[20:23] <makeru> My estimations of the demographics here are mine to decide, actually
[20:23] <makeru> The rules may not be, but my opinion of them certainly is
[20:23] <bazhang> lets stay on topic makeru and no cursing, its the channel policy
[20:23] <daftykins> fighting rules would not be a very productive activity.
[20:24] <makeru> Understood, I will keep my profanity to a minimum
[20:29] <nudoge> systemd!
[20:36] <stef1a> i'm running 15.04 on a third gen Lenovo ThinkPad Carbon X1, and audio has stopped playing from chrome, chromium, and firefox. help? (asked on #ubuntu+1 but didn't get any results)
[20:37] <warlock> hello
[20:37] <bazhang> !vivid | stef1a
[20:38] <warlock> any new tricks?
[20:39] <Tin_man> i downloaded the iso, but have not had a chance to boot it yet.. will later tonight..
[20:42] <chotaz> daftykins, thanks for the tip, i got it to mount on startup, is the procedure the same for yet another hdd but which is going to be shared with all the network?
[20:45] <coderman1> how can i gzip all files in a directory that have no extension?
[20:47] <daftykins> chotaz: yes, fstab is the place for permanent mounts to be set
[20:47] <chotaz> whenever I add a new entry to 'Startup Applications' and close the window, it gets removed, why?
[20:49] <gr33n7007h>  coderman1 gzip -rf *
[20:52] <marcialm2> ?
[20:53] <coderman1> gr33n7007h: but i dont want to zip other files
[20:53] <gr33n7007h> coderman1: how many files?
[20:54] <coderman1> there are other .gz files in the folder i dont want to zip those...just the files with no extension
[20:54] <chotaz> coderman1, gzip -rf [^.] ?
[20:54] <gr33n7007h> coderman1: gzip will ignore them
[20:55] <gr33n7007h> gzip *
[20:55] <coderman1> gzip * wont rezip .gz files?
[20:55] <gr33n7007h> coderman1: no
[20:58] <coderman1> appraently so it just gives a warning
[20:58] <coderman1> thanks!
[20:59] <gr33n7007h> coderman1: np :)
[20:59] <nazmulislam> how can i instrall adobe flash player in firefox?
[21:00] <bekks> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:01] <chotaz> why does everything I add to 'Startup Applications' get removed?
[21:01] <chotaz> woop,sorry for repeating
[21:02] <nazmulislam> my netben software not work? help
[21:06] <nazmulislam> my netben software not work. help me
[21:06] <bekks> !info netben
[21:06] <bekks> nazmulislam: Whats is "netben"?
[21:07] <bazhang> !info netbeans
[21:07] <bekks> AH.
[21:08] <nazmulislam> sorry, ''netbeans''  java fremwork.
[21:09] <nazmulislam> NetBeans IDE
[21:09] <bazhang> more details than 'not work' nazmulislam
[21:10] <unixssh> Hello :)
[21:12] <unixssh> UnixSSH.com  - Free Shells Account if somebody need :P
[21:13] <nazmulislam> NetBeans IDE not open, when i double click this program, it come after few second not run any thing, but eclipse are working properly, what can i do ?
[21:18] <nazmulislam> NetBeans IDE not open, when i double click this program, it come after few second not run any thing, but eclipse are working properly, what can i do ?
[21:19] <bekks> What does "it comes up not run anything" mean?
[21:21] <aaas> so when a service doesn't start (using 'service <service> start')...is there any particular place the errors go or is it only application specific?  I've checkd dmesg and /var/log/syslog, but dont see anything related to the app im trying to launch (zabbix)  (also checked the /var/log/zabbix/* stuff and nothing there either)
[21:22] <daftykins> aaas: with sudo presumably?
[21:23] <aaas> daftykins yes
[21:23] <daftykins> was it installed via package or?
[21:24] <aaas> via deb provied by zabbix (version 2.4) using their instructions.  I migrated the database from another computer so there's a chance that i borked something msyelf....and this would be MUCH easier to diagnose if STDERR/STDOUT went *somewhere*
[21:25] <daftykins> can't run their binary direct huh?
[21:25] <aaas> daftykins yes but if i do that it works
[21:25] <aaas> which is why this is so annoying
[21:27] <chotaz> Is there a manual way to add applications to startup?
[21:27] <bekks> !autostart | chotaz
[21:28] <EriC^^> aaas: did you try running the upstart script manually? /etc/init.d/something?
[21:28] <aaas> EriC^^ no but ill try that thanks
[21:29] <chotaz> bekks, I've tried that, but everything I add to the Startup Applications get removed when I close the window :\
[21:29] <aaas> EriC^^ yeah no info :(
[21:29] <chotaz> that's why I was looking for an alternative, manual way of some sorts for doing it
[21:30] <EriC^^> chotaz: it's cause /.config/autostart is owned by root or something
[21:30] <aaas> chotaz you probably dont want to look for a workaround...that sounds like an underlying problem you want to understand
[21:31] <EriC^^> chotaz: type ls -ld ~/.config/autostart
[21:32] <chotaz> root root
[21:32] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.config/autostart
[21:32] <EriC^^> might want to check if other files aren't owned by you too, sudo find ~ ! -user <your user>
[21:33] <chotaz> EriC^^, what could have caused this? i'm on a nearly fresh install of ubuntu mate.
[21:34] <EriC^^> no idea
[21:34] <chotaz> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10703847/
[21:35] <EriC^^> chotaz: ok, type sudo chown -R user: ~
[21:37] <chotaz> previous returns empty now, i'd assume that's a recursive chown run over ~, never thought that'd be a safe approach, thanks a bunch, again I have no clue how this happened.
[21:37] <EriC^^> somebody else had a similar issue the other day, i guess it's a bug or something
[21:38] <chotaz> Ima reboot in a bit to test the new configs.
[21:43] <cheese_> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[21:43] <cheese_> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[21:43] <Plasmastar> !ops
[21:43] <IdleOne> not a single client got disconnected :)
[21:43] <rww> yeah, it's just cholby trying to be cute
[21:44] <bekks> IdleOne: Despite himself.
[21:44] <tosmarcel> I'm trying to run obs studio. It says I need at least opengl version 2.1 but I have 1.4 .Is there any way to upgrade?
[21:45] <bekks> tosmarcel: Which Ubuntu do you have?
[21:45] <tosmarcel> 14.04
[21:46] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils && glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version"
[21:47] <tosmarcel> OerHeks, that's to provide me with my opengl version, something that I've already done
[21:48] <elky> 5222222222222222222222222222222222 48bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
[21:48] <rww> that was elky's cat ^
[21:48] <OerHeks> ubuntu 14.10 says OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
[21:49] <DarkMat> elky has slept on the keyboard
[21:50] <bekks> That was a heavy impact of the head on the keyboard ;)
[21:51] <rww> seriously though, it was the cat
[21:51] <bekks> Yeah, I know :)
[21:51] <akiva-thinkpad> I got ubuntu installed and will be installing windows 8 or 10 as a dualboot. Is there any easy way to do this, or will I have to reinstall grub afterwards?
[21:51] <bekks> akiva-thinkpad: the latter.
[21:51] <EriC^^> akiva-thinkpad: you'll have to reinstall grub
[21:51] <bekks> !dualboot | akiva-thinkpad
[21:59] <redlama42> Is is safe to turn on "vivid-proposed" when using the beta?
[22:00] <trism> redlama42: no
[22:00] <redlama42> trism: Thanks.
[22:10] <octavian_> What's the fastest Ubuntu distro?
[22:11] <octavian_> Xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu?
[22:11] <bekks> Those are just different desktop environments.
[22:12] <bprompt> octavian_:    lubuntu is the "lightest", and thus the quicker one of those 3
[22:13] <octavian_> I have a decent pc(haswell cpu) but I find it not running very good compared to running win8
[22:14] <bekks> Which GPU and which graphics driver do you use?
[22:14] <octavian_> bprompt: so the wuestion is what should I choose without losing features
[22:15] <bekks> octavian_: Just take a look at all three and then decide.
[22:15] <octavian_> bekks: ati 8000m I don t rember the exact version
[22:15] <bekks> octavian_: And which driver do you use?
[22:16] <octavian_> The one provided by canonical I guess.. I just turned it off. I am on my phone
[22:16] <bprompt> octavian_:    that's a relative matter, I use kde, since I run many kde apps, I've used XFCE as well, runs well, is slightly lighter than kde, and I do run lxde window manager, .....  features wise.. it depends on what features you want really, that's a personal issue though
[22:16] <bekks> Then we should delay this discussion until the computer in question is up and running again :)
[22:17] <octavian_> bekks: I didn' t have hardware acc on 14.04 so I installed 14.10 and evrything works smoothly
[22:18] <octavian_> bekks: :D I don't know if I will find you again here
[22:18] <bprompt> octavian_:    I'd say, if you want fancy-schmanzy, go with kde, if you want medium-fancy, go with xfce, if want more performance and no extra distractions, then lubuntu
[22:21] <octavian_> bprompt: thank you :) but the big problem will be the hardware acceleration, as bekks mentioned. Should I go for 14.10 as I did with Ubuntu or give 14.04 onother shot?
[22:21] <bekks> octavian_: We cant answer that question until we know hich graphics driver you used.
[22:22] <bprompt> octavian_:     kubuntu, usee kde, xubuntu uses xfce, and lubuntu, uses lxde,  they all overall use the same core distribution though, just different window and desktop managers, if 14.04 didn't give you hardware acceleration, and 14.10 did, then you'd find the same on either of those flavors
[22:24] <octavian_> bekks: Ok. I'll turn it on again even tho it's 1:22 am and I have courses in 6.5 hours
[22:27] <ubun23> anyone having consistent freezing with 15.04?
[22:27] <octavian_> bekks: I have a radeon 8670m with x.org video ati open source, tested driver
[22:29] <octavian_> Didn't change anything since the instllation of Ubuntu 14.10
[22:29] <Mile> Hello
[22:29] <octavian_> bekks: hope you are still there buddy
[22:29] <Mile> So is this some kind of tech support channel?
[22:30] <bprompt> !topic | Mile
[22:30] <Mile> Oh, thank you
[22:30] <mekhami> this question is not super ubuntu related, but maybe some ubuntu tool can help me out, i wanna get the specs of my entire computer without opening the damn thing up and reading labels. what's the best way to get all of this information?
[22:31] <OerHeks> !info sysinfo
[22:32] <SchrodingersScat> !info hardinfo
[22:32] <OerHeks> or comandline tools like lsusb lspci lscpu lshw dmidecode
[22:32] <bprompt> mekhami:    or you could use ->    sudo lswh > ~/myspecs.txt   <---    then open in any text editor   ~/myspecs.txt
[22:32] <daftykins> mekhami: are you trying to identify a device make + model to find a Windows driver?
[22:33] <bprompt> hmm
[22:34] <bprompt> mekhami:    or you could use ->    sudo lshw > ~/myspecs.txt   <---    then open in any text editor   ~/myspecs.txt       # make that "lshw" rather
[22:36] <mekhami> daftykins, nope just trying to find what my hardware is so that i can look at what needs upgrading
[22:37] <daftykins> oic
[22:37] <daftykins> don't think that requires much effort :>
[22:44] <Guest9619> hey
[22:47] <rhl> Hi, I have an intel atom DN2800MT. I donloaded the 14.04 ubuntu live usb and when I run any of the options via grub the screen goes black and nothing seems to happen. I have succesfully run fedora v16 (old) on this hardware.
[22:47] <rhl> any advice on what to do?
[22:48] <mekhami> daftykins, yeah i just don't wanna open the machine. but lshw got me the majority of what i needed.
[22:48] <daftykins> what's left?
[22:49] <daftykins> mekhami: is it a factory brand thing?
[22:49] <mekhami> daftykins, PSU and it gave me placeholderse on the RAM
[22:49] <mekhami> nah
[22:49] <daftykins> laptop perhaps?
[22:49] <mekhami> I built it myself a long long time ago
[22:49] <mekhami> (like 2 years)
[22:49] <daftykins> oh right. yeah i'd have used my eyes :P
[22:49] <mekhami> but i had a kid since then so i have no recollection of the last two years.
[22:49] <daftykins> hahaha
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> j test
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> oops
[23:08] <Serdar> hello
[23:08] <gtrott> hello
[23:09] <gtrott> github noob here.  how do I fetch the script to mu ubuntu server?  https://github.com/sipcapture/homer/blob/master/scripts/extra/homer_installer.sh
[23:12] <Serdar> I am tring to install ubuntu with Raid1 and lvm over ssh but it is not booting
[23:12] <AkashicLegend> what does it mean when it says to write protect a file
[23:12] <AkashicLegend> do I remove write permissions?
[23:14] <Serdar> I made 2 Partitions on each hd, 1G and rest. so I got sda1, sda2 and sdb1, sdb2
[23:14] <OerHeks> gtrott, get the page in raw mode > wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sipcapture/homer/master/scripts/extra/homer_installer.sh
[23:14] <Alissa> How can I close a port for out-of-LAN traffic?
[23:14] <Serdar> I made a raid1 on the ones using metadata=0.90 and a raid of the twos
[23:15] <Alissa> If I have a VPN access on 10.8.0.1 and 10.8.0.2, how could I get it so that those IPs can access something on a specific port but other traffic can't?
[23:15] <gtrott> OerHeks thanks!
[23:37] <cstk421> anyone know how to configure / troubleshoot 3g usb connectivity ?
[23:38] <leo___> hello, i recently installed ubuntu on my new pc. during installation, i selected both encrypt harddrive and encrypt my user files. i also have everything mounted on an internal ssd. now i want to change this and move my user files to an external usb 3.0 drive while keeping everything encrypted.
[23:38] <leo___> is that possible?
[23:38] <AkashicLegend> how do I use ls with files that are only 5 or more characters
[23:39] <daniel_> I'm in an Ubuntu live session from USB and I'm trying to rescue my files from the hard drive. How do I log in to gain permissions to copy the files to an external drive
[23:42] <mysupper> hello
[23:43] <chris062689> antergos
[23:46] <hehe> hi folks I want to install new network adapter on lubuntu 14.04 via softether client
[23:46] <hehe> and I get Installation of the Virtual Network Adapter device driver failed.
[23:46] <hehe> how do I fix it/
[23:47] <crepple> daniel_ I think you start nautilus with gksu nautilus - that's what I was just reading here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299582&page=2
[23:47] <Guest45435> I am not able get https pages working on ubuntu apache2
[23:47] <daniel_> crepple, thanks I just got it
[23:47] <daniel_> All I needed was root
[23:47] <Guest45435> i am getting an errorssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[23:47] <Guest45435>     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
[23:48] <crepple> daniel_ yeah - i knew that but forgot how to achieve it - had to look up - newish to all this
[23:48] <daniel_> crepple, I was confused because I was under the impression I'd need to tell it my user permissions
[23:49] <crepple> daniel_ ah
[23:50] <jamie_> I am trying to write a scrip to update a certain program at boot up... to run that command I need to use sudo... how would I add the password into the .sh
[23:51] <daniel_> jamie_, if you use gksu in the script it will ask you to enter the password at startup so it can do that
[23:51] <daniel_> Otherwise I don't know
[23:52] <jamie_> daniel_: what do you mean exactly
[23:52] <crepple> jamie_ I think it's conventional to use su -c in scripts
[23:52] <MonkeyDust> jamie    sudo crontab -e    and use   @reboot
[23:52] <crepple> But I'm not a scripter, just a reader of scripts :)
[23:53] <jamie_> i was trying to go simple like https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8827539
[23:53] <jamie_> and set that to run on start up
[23:53] <Alissa> Firefox can't connect to anything but using telnet I can. I disabled ufw to test (my ports are closed on the router), but I still can't connect.
[23:53] <Alissa> Anyone know what's up with this?
[23:54] <miv> !
[23:54] <jamie_> I do testing for firefox... the firefox trunk is the nighly ppa
[23:54] <LemPeX_XouR> hello
[23:54] <LemPeX_XouR> how to download metasploit framework
[23:54] <miv> can you enter your gateway through browser?
[23:55] <jamie_> the parts i use which is webIDE is built into that so it is the best idea to have that always updating
[23:55] <Alissa> Probably should've checked that first :|
[23:55] <Alissa> checking now
[23:55] <Alissa> Uh, no. I don't think so.
[23:56] <miv> what system you are using?
[23:56] <jamie_> who
[23:56] <Alissa> Ubuntu 14.10 on an HP laptop
[23:56] <miv> )
[23:56] <jamie_> okay not me
[23:56] <Alissa> Was working about 4 hours ago
[23:57] <miv> try to check cables all is fine
[23:57] <jamie_> any one know if i can use that format for running the apt-get upgrade and apt-get install firefox-trunk
[23:57] <crepple> Alissa The only time I had that issue the system clock was wrong and setting it right fixed it. Probably a coincidence
[23:57] <Alissa> I'm IRC'ing on the laptop, miv.
[23:57] <Alissa> I also did say that I can use telnet on the laptop
[23:57] <miv> so the probeme solved
[23:57] <Alissa> chromium also isn't working.
[23:58] <miv> !
[23:58] <chris062689> Has there been any progress getting Ubuntu onto various tablets (that aren't really outdated?) Like the Nexus 9?  Ubuntu is said to release their own tablet-hardware soon, yeah?
[23:58] <miv> did you check iptables rules for port 80 and 443
[23:58] <Alissa> jamie_: What you can use is a superuser crontab.
[23:58] <Alissa> If you still need help.
[23:58] <Alissa> miv: I disabled ufw, which is the iptables frontend.
[23:58] <jamie_> Alissa: i still do... im just not sure how to set this .sh up
[23:58] <miv> let me think a little
[23:59] <miv> try to ping the dns please
[23:59] <Alissa> jamie_: The .sh file will be run as superuser
[23:59] <Alissa> You won't need to sudo.
[23:59] <Alissa> miv: 38 millisecond ping
[23:59] <jamie_> Alissa: okay... so all i need to do is separate them with the $
[23:59] <jamie_> of course on separate lines
[23:59] <Alissa> jamie_: just place the script in root and it'll automatically be run as superuser