[00:17] <slickymaster> hmm right
[00:17] <slickymaster> knome, krytarik, did you get any common gorund?
[00:17] <slickymaster> * groud
[00:17] <slickymaster> sighs
[00:17] <slickymaster> ground
[00:17] <krytarik> lol
[00:18] <krytarik> I think we decided that knome sleeps over it. :P
[00:18] <knome> probably better
[00:18] <slickymaster>  bah you're not sleeping knome, you're tutoring
[00:18] <knome> i like how the chapter references are kept as is
[00:18] <knome> but otoh, it does make the references stay inconsistent
[00:19] <knome> in a different, more annoying way
[00:19] <slickymaster> ok, we'll get back to this tomorrow
[00:19] <knome> yep
[00:19] <slickymaster> will you still be around tomorrow krytarik?
[00:19] <krytarik> Yep.
[00:19] <slickymaster> great
[00:20] <krytarik> And Monday.
[00:20] <knome> noooo way
[00:20] <knome> EVEN *MON-DAY*
[00:20] <krytarik> Well, I'm leaving Tuesday for 1.5 weeks. ;P
[00:20] <knome> oh
[00:21] <knome> where to?
[00:21] <krytarik> Visiting my mom over Easter.
[00:21] <knome> why did i convert that to "your mom" automatically in my head
[00:21] <slickymaster> he'll be his mother Easter egg
[00:21] <knome> and even thought "WHAT!"
[00:21] <knome> slickymaster, ouch... :P
[00:25] <knome> slickymaster, your wikipage is outdated :P
[00:25] <slickymaster> ?!
[00:25] <slickymaster> how's so?
[00:25] <knome> well look at it yourself
[00:27] <slickymaster> not sure what there is outdated
[00:27] <knome> The section called "Contributions" does not outline your Xubuntu activities lately particularly well.
[00:28] <slickymaster> no it doesn't
[00:29] <slickymaster> but if you haven't mentioned I'd never noticed
[00:29] <knome> lol
[00:29] <knome> yeah...
[00:30] <knome> that's why i try to keep my storytelling to my own blog
[00:30] <knome> my wikipage is outdated too :P
[00:30] <slickymaster> yeah
[02:35] <Unit193> Seanie?
[02:44] <Unit193> Snagged, bagged and soon tagged xfdash .91
[02:56] <Unit193> Hrm.  soundmenu and hamster didn't get rebuilt for libxfce4util7.
[08:13] <gnumbknuts> usb-creator-gtk update has successfully made a bootable usb-stick with Lubuntu-vivid-daily.iso(20150328). The iso contains the syslinux files required for it to work. It boots straight into the menu (BIOS legacy mode) with the language selector overlaid. I had first completely remove both usb-creator-gtk & -common ; and then install the Utopic versions : 
[08:13] <gnumbknuts> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/usb-creator-common_0.2.62ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb
[08:13] <gnumbknuts> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/usb-creator-gtk_0.2.62ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb
[08:15] <gnumbknuts> So now, I guess, we only need Xubuntu iso to include these file? Though I did not drr them included in the manifest of the current pending build .
[08:18] <elfy> you know this is a generic issue and not just xubuntu?
[08:20] <gnumbknuts> Yes I know elfy, but it is only the Xubuntu iso that is still to be updated. evey other flavour seems to have done so.
[09:46] <elfy> bluesabre: running xfpm from the ppa, crashes apparently, can't report it as PPA, but have unpacked the crash report and have them all available if you want them 
[11:34] <bluesabre> Unit193: want to rebuild those packages?
[11:35] <bluesabre> elfy: ochosi might be more interested in that
[11:45] <elfy> true enough
[11:50] <bluesabre> elfy: want to test a thunar package today to see if it works any worse for you?
[11:50] <bluesabre> looking to fix https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11450 for those affected, though it doesn't affect all users, so also avoiding any regressions
[11:55] <elfy> I would - but not being affected here 
[11:56] <bluesabre> k, I'll upload to staging then
[11:57] <bluesabre> I also have an affected user testing on 14.04 :)
[11:58] <elfy> that always helps :)
[11:59] <bluesabre> mhm
[11:59] <elfy> half the time I suspect you need to have random package installed the same as someone reporting
[12:00] <elfy> just tested vm - works in there too
[12:00] <bluesabre> I have a previous version of the patch that fixed the issue for me at work, so I have high hopes
[12:01] <elfy> I'm often copy/pasting stuff - I've never seen thunar crash while doing it 
[12:04] <elfy> tried to and from a stick - working here
[12:04] <bluesabre> it doesn't affect my laptop
[12:04] <bluesabre> but on my work desktop, it crashes immediately every time
[12:04] <bluesabre> so its one of *those* bugs
[12:04] <elfy> I'll boot laptop then 
[12:05] <elfy> that's vanilla xubuntu
[12:05] <bluesabre> chocolate xubuntu is better
[12:05] <elfy> damn right :)
[12:07] <elfy> nope - works there too ... 
[12:07] <elfy> I tried ;)
[12:08] <bluesabre> heh
[12:11] <elfy> must be a pain to fix intermittent issues :)
[12:15] <bluesabre> they've been working hard in xfce-dev
[12:15] <bluesabre> there are actually a few non-related issues that cause similar crashes, so it's been a struggle
[12:16] <elfy> I've seen :)
[12:52] <dkessel> yay, byobu is finally working again in xfce-terminal in vivid =) thank you whoever did it!
[12:52] <eric_the_idiot> elfy, which version of xfpm is in the ppa?
[12:54] <elfy> eric_the_idiot:  1.4.4+git-0~1863~ubuntu15.04.1 
[12:59] <eric_the_idiot> do you have a bracktrace of the crash(es) handy? I can take a look
[13:00] <Unit193> bluesabre: Already did.
[13:03] <elfy> eric_the_idiot: all I've got is the files that apport creates - even though I can't do anything with them
[13:03] <elfy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10700898/
[13:05] <eric_the_idiot> oh
[13:05] <elfy> basically - I reboot, it tells me it's crashed 
[13:05] <elfy> everything appears to be ok though *shrug*
[13:06] <eric_the_idiot> ok, I assume ochosi knows more about apport stuff then. We can wait for him :)
[13:10] <elfy> mmm - so after saying that, I tried the things I rarely do like suspend and lock :)
[13:10] <elfy> lock works, came out of suspend to a black screen 
[13:10] <elfy> and I really hate saying that particularly
[16:03] <ochosi> hullo folks
[16:03] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, we've had an upstream report about that as well, might be connected to the gdbus stuff (that i know next to nothing about)
[16:06] <ochosi> elfy: specifically this one: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11767
[16:45] <elfy> ochosi: ack - that sounds about right
[19:35] <brainvvash_> Noskcaj, please nominate bug 1388009 for trusty
[19:36] <Noskcaj> done
[19:37] <Unit193> Never seems to help. :(
[19:37] <brainvvash_> wow, thanks :)
[23:40] <gnumbknuts> Is there a non-convoluted method of repackaging a xubuntu-vivid-daily-build.iso to include some extra packages ? I wish to add the syslinux packages that Ubuntu-daily.iso has, so I can test whether usb-creator-gtk update works . 
[23:53] <ali1234> not really no
[23:54] <ali1234> elfy: first result of the import test is done... gmb took ~25 minutes to import my library
[23:57] <gnumbknuts> Thanks ali123, I was afraid some-one was going to say that. I just spent the last day researching and none of the methods described work with daily.iso(s). Only work with official releases 
[23:58] <slickymaster> btw knome, did you get to think about the issue you have with krytarik's MP?
[23:58] <knome> not yet
[23:59] <knome> was a busy day today
[23:59] <knome> less busy tomorrow
[23:59] <slickymaster> ok