| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:04 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: fancy a new task? https://blogs.kde.org/2015/03/29/pykde-future-seeking-new-maintainer | 09:45 |
| === lordieva1er is now known as lordievader | ||
| BluesKaj | Good Day folks | 11:00 |
| Riddell | sitter: you udpated the breeze packaging? will you upload to vivid or should I? | 11:30 |
| sitter | I did so already | 11:30 |
| Riddell | lovely | 11:30 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I already wrote him. | 12:09 |
| ScottK | Not sure how much I'll be able to do, but I'll try and help. | 12:09 |
| Riddell | classy new sweaters https://www.hellotux.com/kubuntu_sweater_black | 12:41 |
| Sho_ | t-shirt looks like it has a decent cut | 12:43 |
| * Riddell adds https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-sweaters-added-hellotux-shop | 12:44 | |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-sweaters-added-hellotux-shop | 12:45 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: does the new website have any translations? | 13:14 |
| owlman | Riddell (or anyone): mind if I ask a question about the graphics stack here? | 14:16 |
| Riddell | you can try, we may not know | 14:20 |
| owlman | thanks, actually about future plans. Mainly wondering if I should be concentrating on libinput to solve some of my problems ;) | 14:21 |
| owlman | Is the plan still to move from Xorg to a wayland/weston(?) stack? | 14:22 |
| Riddell | yep, mgraesslin is working hard on porting stuff to wayland, no deadline when it'll be ready but it won't be this year | 14:24 |
| Riddell | and I believe libinput is the best library for that stuff but don't take my word for it | 14:24 |
| mgraesslin | libinput for what? | 14:25 |
| owlman | New toy. Thinkpad Helix tablet/ultrabook. Has 4 pointing devices: touchscreen, wacom digitiser, touchpad and trackpoint | 14:26 |
| mgraesslin | owlman: yes, libinput as at least Fedora starts to use it for X11 as well | 14:27 |
| owlman | so some sort of unified handling for those seems like a good idea | 14:27 |
| mgraesslin | and as upstream dev in interested area: I would love seeing (K)Ubuntu to follow | 14:27 |
| owlman | OK. Looks like a first step would be to package xf86-input-libinput | 14:29 |
| owlman | Haven't done any packaging before, but I'll give it a go | 14:30 |
| Riddell | owlman: we have a libinput-dev package, isn't that it? | 14:31 |
| owlman | Riddell: according to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/libinput/ it looks like a seperate package. will investigate further | 14:37 |
| owlman | Riddell: I've also been investigating/breaking virtual keyboards | 14:38 |
| mgraesslin | Riddell: libinput-dev is the libinput library, xf86-input-libinput is an xinput "driver" using libinput | 14:39 |
| owlman | Riddell: It looks maliit framework currently has a dependency on Gsettings, possibly as an interim solution by the ubuntu phablet team to get things working | 14:41 |
| owlman | does anyone know if qt/kde has a mechanism to read xdg configs? | 14:41 |
| Riddell | xdg configs? | 14:42 |
| owlman | i.e. /etc/xdg/* | 14:42 |
| Riddell | that's just normal kconfig in kf5 land I think | 14:43 |
| owlman | thanks. more reading :( | 14:43 |
| _Groo_ | hi guys | 15:26 |
| _Groo_ | quick question, what dictionary format does kf5 uses? aspell or myspell? | 15:27 |
| _Groo_ | or ispell? :P | 15:27 |
| _Groo_ | i want to add a dictionary to kde, but im unsure which format kf5 uses | 15:28 |
| _Groo_ | nvm,i just went through my installed dictionaries, it uses aspell | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | looks like myspell and aspell will work , they show up in muon on 15.04 | 15:30 |
| _Groo_ | for sure | 15:31 |
| _Groo_ | GHNS in kubuntu to download dictionaries would be a nice touch | 15:32 |
| _Groo_ | does GHNS work with packages? | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | what's GHNS ? | 15:34 |
| jjesse | get hot new stuff | 15:35 |
| Riddell | anyone want to test this? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kde-config-systemd_1.1.0+git20150330_amd64.deb | 15:35 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: language packs should bring in dictionaries | 15:36 |
| Riddell | and kcm locale should be fixed to bring in language packages, I have a gsoc project for that | 15:36 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: yeah but for ex, i use english language but im in brazil, so pt-br locales and i just want both dictionaries | 15:37 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: but yeah , its just an apt-get away... no biggie | 15:37 |
| Riddell | I still think kcm locale (or the normal muon install) would be sufficient | 15:38 |
| _Groo_ | did anyone tested kde telepathy in utopic? with 2-way authentication? it was supposed to open a browser, but it just sits there. i needed to go back to unity/empathy, create my account and get back to kf5 | 15:40 |
| tuv0k | I have a cpu load of 100% on one core. Looks like it may be plasmashell | 15:45 |
| tuv0k | system monitor does not show the load as such in the process table, but does in the system load graph, and I can see it via htop | 15:46 |
| tuv0k | wasn't plasmashell | 15:49 |
| tuv0k | killed plasmashell and now two cores are at 100% | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/pending/vivid-core-armhf.tar.gz | 16:07 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: any news on calligra 2.9.1? | 16:25 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: still todo | 16:26 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: k | 16:26 |
| sitter | Riddell: until further notice KCI is not integrating as I need to transition away from lxc as it ended up horribly broken due to the systemd switch | 17:11 |
| ghostcube | hmmm its an april joke isnt it? | 18:49 |
| ghostcube | http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community | 18:49 |
| * ahoneybun wonders who would use it | 18:51 | |
| mparillo | ghostcube: Based on this, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Ivan%20Gotyaovich&t=qupzilla I assume it is an early April's Fools joke. | 18:57 |
| ghostcube | ok | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I dont follow your email :P | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | Do we need to poke cjwatson? | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | could someone confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/1434857 ? | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1434857 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Docs are missing" [Undecided,New] | 20:06 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: where we the khelpcenter files at in KF5? | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | *are | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | pretty sure this is not english " Hvordan man installerer Kubuntu" | 20:13 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: more accurate would be that "some" docs are missing. For some reasons there are help categories without handbooks | 20:14 |
| yofel | e.g. if you click through the system settings modules, about half of them are missing (or well, inexistent) | 20:15 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: there is a en and en_US dirs in the khelpcenter | 20:15 |
| ahoneybun | en has some other lang in it | 20:15 |
| ahoneybun | en_US is empty | 20:15 |
| ahoneybun | makes me think that if I switch langs it would show up | 20:16 |
| ahoneybun | brb | 20:20 |
| === ahoneybun_ is now known as ahoneybun | ||
| ahoneybun | that did not work | 20:24 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: the translation support is not there yet | 20:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | I got the email from Weiller | 20:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm looking into using a translation platform for the translations | 20:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | like transifex or pootle | 20:41 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: wrong directory name | 20:45 |
| yofel | stat("/usr/share/doc/HTML/en//kubuntu/index.html", 0x7ffce09b3aa0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 20:45 |
| yofel | stat("/usr/share/doc/HTML/en//kubuntu/index.docbook", 0x7ffce09b3aa0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 20:45 |
| yofel | it looks for kubuntu, not kubuntu-docs | 20:45 |
| ahoneybun | oh wow | 20:54 |
| ahoneybun | where did you get that yofel | 20:55 |
| ahoneybun | I want to know how to fix it | 20:56 |
| debfx | is anyone using quassel on vivid? | 20:56 |
| ahoneybun | not I | 20:56 |
| yofel | debfx: me, works fine except for an occasional crash | 20:56 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: that's from 'strace khelpcenter', but I don't know to fix that. Shouldn't that be set somewhere in the docs packaging? | 20:57 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: I'll look | 20:57 |
| debfx | yofel: do you get notifications? | 20:57 |
| yofel | hm... | 20:57 |
| yofel | debfx: ping me | 20:57 |
| debfx | yofel: ping | 20:57 |
| debfx | the notifications settings page is completely empty for me | 20:58 |
| yofel | no -.- | 20:58 |
| yofel | somehow never noticed that o.O... | 20:58 |
| debfx | dh_install: usr/share/knotifications5/quassel.notifyrc exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere | 21:01 |
| * debfx quickly changes that to --fail-missing | 21:03 | |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: ping | 21:05 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: I can't find it | 21:17 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: I think setting "X-DocPath=help:/kubuntu-docs/index.html" in khelpcenter-plugin/kubuntu-docs.desktop should fix it? | 21:21 |
| yofel | seems to fix it at least if I edit /usr/share/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu-docs.desktop | 21:21 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: okay... now I see what you meant with language.. | 21:22 |
| debfx | yofel: could you ping me | 21:22 |
| yofel | debfx: ping | 21:22 |
| debfx | thanks, works fine now | 21:23 |
| yofel | \o/ | 21:23 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: makes sense | 21:25 |
| ahoneybun | let me see | 21:25 |
| yofel | wtf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10709227/ | 21:25 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: but that desktop is a link | 21:25 |
| ahoneybun | I dont have af | 21:26 |
| ahoneybun | lang af yofel | 21:27 |
| yofel | define link? It's not one here | 21:27 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: me neither as that trace shows | 21:27 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: that should be on the desktop no? | 21:27 |
| yofel | but that looks like it tries to open the (alphabetically) first language it finds | 21:27 |
| yofel | which is... nonsense? | 21:28 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: is that even a lang on the system | 21:28 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 21:28 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: desktop files are really just application metadata, they're not only used for links | 21:28 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: oh ok | 21:28 |
| yofel | or well, it is a "link to the kubuntu docs inside khelpcenter" | 21:29 |
| ahoneybun | oh ok | 21:29 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: to try out these changes I would have to uninstall kubuntu-docs from the repos, build my local copy and install it? | 21:30 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: it is "a" valid language, and we don't have language specific doc packages | 21:30 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 21:30 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: building a local copy would certainly be a better test | 21:31 |
| ahoneybun | before uploading anyway | 21:31 |
| yofel | I only edited the file manually here for a quick test | 21:31 |
| ahoneybun | I edited the kubuntu-docs.desktop file and will build loca | 21:32 |
| ahoneybun | *local | 21:32 |
| ahoneybun | oh crap | 21:32 |
| ahoneybun | my system lang in konsole is not english | 21:32 |
| ahoneybun | oh spanish | 21:32 |
| yofel | how did that happen? ^^ | 21:33 |
| yofel | oh, I also have a nice setting... | 21:33 |
| yofel | LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 | 21:33 |
| yofel | LANGUAGE=en_US | 21:33 |
| ahoneybun | I was messing with something in system settings | 21:34 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: how would one build this? | 21:34 |
| ahoneybun | og | 21:34 |
| ahoneybun | got it | 21:34 |
| yofel | k | 21:34 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: | 21:38 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: No signature on /home/ahoneybun/Documents/Kubuntu/Docs/kubuntu-docs_15.04ubuntu2_source.changes. | 21:38 |
| ahoneybun | but if I use dput mykey.asc it tells me to use the source.changes file first | 21:39 |
| ahoneybun | endless circle | 21:39 |
| yofel | wait | 21:39 |
| yofel | the correct procedure is: edit package, debuild -S (which runs debsign for signing), dput <target> <pkg>_source.changes | 21:40 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 21:41 |
| ahoneybun | did not see it for some reason | 21:41 |
| ahoneybun | let me try again | 21:41 |
| ahoneybun | I have no key on this system | 21:41 |
| yofel | I don't think you're kubuntu-dev, so you can't upload it anyway | 21:42 |
| ahoneybun | my PPA | 21:42 |
| ahoneybun | https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages | 21:42 |
| yofel | then the version should have a ~ppa1 suffix or so | 21:42 |
| yofel | (not required, but good practice) | 21:42 |
| ahoneybun | running debsign failed | 21:43 |
| yofel | anyway, you'll need a PGP key that's registered on launchpad to upload the package | 21:43 |
| ahoneybun | I have 2 | 21:44 |
| ahoneybun | none on this system | 21:44 |
| ahoneybun | gpg --list-key is empty | 21:45 |
| yofel | right, you'll need one of the private keys on your system | 21:45 |
| ahoneybun | how do I get it on here? | 21:46 |
| ahoneybun | I can't keep making them | 21:46 |
| yofel | either you just copy your ~/.gnupg folder from the other system, or you could export the secret key. In any case, be careful to not leave them lying around somewhere public | 21:46 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: I have no other system | 21:47 |
| ahoneybun | so exporting or making a new one are the only options | 21:47 |
| yofel | uh... if you don't have backups of the old keys you need to make a new one | 21:47 |
| ahoneybun | damn | 21:47 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 21:47 |
| yofel | and maybe make a secret key export and store it in a safe this time :P | 21:48 |
| ahoneybun | will do this time | 21:49 |
| ahoneybun | sudo gpg --output keyFile --armor --export 041DA354 ? | 21:49 |
| ahoneybun | sample key | 21:49 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: ^ | 21:51 |
| yofel | that's the public key, you'll need that too. The secret one would be 'gpg --export-secret-key --armor 041DA354 > out.key' | 21:52 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 21:52 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: backuped | 21:58 |
| darthanubis | The latest mesa dri updates stops corruption upon login. But now calling any new window to screen the whole screen flickers | 22:11 |
| darthanubis | I'm using two monitors with OSS amd video drivers | 22:12 |
| yofel | darthanubis: not our field of expertise I fear, #ubuntu-x might know more | 22:13 |
| frecel | hi | 22:14 |
| frecel | does anyone have source for gtk-qt-engine packages for 15.04? | 22:14 |
| darthanubis | field of expertise, it ws updates to kubuntu 15.04, is that not a concern for this channel? | 22:14 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: it says I have no secret key | 22:15 |
| ahoneybun | oh wait | 22:15 |
| yofel | it might not look for the right key, is the email right? | 22:16 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: it was set to my hostname | 22:16 |
| yofel | aaah, seems like some setup is missing. make sure you set DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME in your .bashrc | 22:17 |
| yofel | that's what'll appear in the changelog | 22:17 |
| ahoneybun | uploading | 22:17 |
| yofel | darthanubis: well, yes. But I'm not sure how much we can help with mesa | 22:18 |
| yofel | but maybe someone will know something | 22:18 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: is that ok DEBFULLNAME = "Aaron Honeycutt" | 22:19 |
| yofel | yes | 22:19 |
| ahoneybun | ok I put that at the end of my .bashrc file | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | as well as the email one too | 22:20 |
| yofel | it should match with the data you set in the gpg key, otherwise you can force a key by setting DEBSIGN_KEYID=... in ~/.devscripts | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | its the same | 22:21 |
| * ahoneybun laughs that he has spanish in his konsole and he is going to spain in 4 months | 22:23 | |
| frecel | does anyone know of a gtk2-breeze engine? | 22:30 |
| Sho_ | There is none | 22:33 |
| Sho_ | Upstream isn't very motivated because GTK+ 3 removed the theming engine API | 22:33 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: other then the wrong lang that fixed it | 22:40 |
| frecel | Well, all I wanted was a Firefox window that matches the theme | 22:43 |
| ahoneybun | frecel: looks good to me | 22:43 |
| ahoneybun | looks like it is danish : https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=da | 22:48 |
| ahoneybun | might be system wise | 22:49 |
| ahoneybun | it is a bug | 22:55 |
| ahoneybun | very weird yofel it is in danish | 22:58 |
| ahoneybun | darn you ppa | 23:25 |
| ahoneybun | keeps installing the old version | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | got it | 23:28 |
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