[07:04] Good morning. [09:45] ScottK: fancy a new task? https://blogs.kde.org/2015/03/29/pykde-future-seeking-new-maintainer === lordieva1er is now known as lordievader [11:00] Good Day folks [11:30] sitter: you udpated the breeze packaging? will you upload to vivid or should I? [11:30] I did so already [11:30] lovely [12:09] Riddell: I already wrote him. [12:09] Not sure how much I'll be able to do, but I'll try and help. [12:41] classy new sweaters https://www.hellotux.com/kubuntu_sweater_black [12:43] t-shirt looks like it has a decent cut [12:44] * Riddell adds https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-sweaters-added-hellotux-shop [12:45] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-sweaters-added-hellotux-shop === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [13:14] ovidiu-florin: does the new website have any translations? [14:16] Riddell (or anyone): mind if I ask a question about the graphics stack here? [14:20] you can try, we may not know [14:21] thanks, actually about future plans. Mainly wondering if I should be concentrating on libinput to solve some of my problems ;) [14:22] Is the plan still to move from Xorg to a wayland/weston(?) stack? [14:24] yep, mgraesslin is working hard on porting stuff to wayland, no deadline when it'll be ready but it won't be this year [14:24] and I believe libinput is the best library for that stuff but don't take my word for it [14:25] libinput for what? [14:26] New toy. Thinkpad Helix tablet/ultrabook. Has 4 pointing devices: touchscreen, wacom digitiser, touchpad and trackpoint [14:27] owlman: yes, libinput as at least Fedora starts to use it for X11 as well [14:27] so some sort of unified handling for those seems like a good idea [14:27] and as upstream dev in interested area: I would love seeing (K)Ubuntu to follow [14:29] OK. Looks like a first step would be to package xf86-input-libinput [14:30] Haven't done any packaging before, but I'll give it a go [14:31] owlman: we have a libinput-dev package, isn't that it? [14:37] Riddell: according to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/libinput/ it looks like a seperate package. will investigate further [14:38] Riddell: I've also been investigating/breaking virtual keyboards [14:39] Riddell: libinput-dev is the libinput library, xf86-input-libinput is an xinput "driver" using libinput [14:41] Riddell: It looks maliit framework currently has a dependency on Gsettings, possibly as an interim solution by the ubuntu phablet team to get things working [14:41] does anyone know if qt/kde has a mechanism to read xdg configs? [14:42] xdg configs? [14:42] i.e. /etc/xdg/* [14:43] that's just normal kconfig in kf5 land I think [14:43] thanks. more reading :( [15:26] <_Groo_> hi guys [15:27] <_Groo_> quick question, what dictionary format does kf5 uses? aspell or myspell? [15:27] <_Groo_> or ispell? :P [15:28] <_Groo_> i want to add a dictionary to kde, but im unsure which format kf5 uses [15:30] <_Groo_> nvm,i just went through my installed dictionaries, it uses aspell [15:30] looks like myspell and aspell will work , they show up in muon on 15.04 [15:31] <_Groo_> for sure [15:32] <_Groo_> GHNS in kubuntu to download dictionaries would be a nice touch [15:32] <_Groo_> does GHNS work with packages? [15:34] what's GHNS ? [15:35] get hot new stuff [15:35] anyone want to test this? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kde-config-systemd_1.1.0+git20150330_amd64.deb [15:36] _Groo_: language packs should bring in dictionaries [15:36] and kcm locale should be fixed to bring in language packages, I have a gsoc project for that [15:37] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah but for ex, i use english language but im in brazil, so pt-br locales and i just want both dictionaries [15:37] <_Groo_> Riddell: but yeah , its just an apt-get away... no biggie [15:38] I still think kcm locale (or the normal muon install) would be sufficient [15:40] <_Groo_> did anyone tested kde telepathy in utopic? with 2-way authentication? it was supposed to open a browser, but it just sits there. i needed to go back to unity/empathy, create my account and get back to kf5 [15:45] I have a cpu load of 100% on one core. Looks like it may be plasmashell [15:46] system monitor does not show the load as such in the process table, but does in the system load graph, and I can see it via htop [15:49] wasn't plasmashell [15:49] killed plasmashell and now two cores are at 100% [16:07] Riddell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/pending/vivid-core-armhf.tar.gz [16:25] <_Groo_> Riddell: any news on calligra 2.9.1? [16:26] _Groo_: still todo [16:26] <_Groo_> Riddell: k [17:11] Riddell: until further notice KCI is not integrating as I need to transition away from lxc as it ended up horribly broken due to the systemd switch [18:49] hmmm its an april joke isnt it? [18:49] http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community [18:51] * ahoneybun wonders who would use it [18:57] ghostcube: Based on this, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Ivan%20Gotyaovich&t=qupzilla I assume it is an early April's Fools joke. [18:57] ok [19:56] Riddell: I dont follow your email :P [19:56] Do we need to poke cjwatson? [20:05] could someone confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/1434857 ? [20:06] Launchpad bug 1434857 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Docs are missing" [Undecided,New] [20:09] Riddell: where we the khelpcenter files at in KF5? [20:09] *are [20:13] pretty sure this is not english " Hvordan man installerer Kubuntu" [20:14] ahoneybun: more accurate would be that "some" docs are missing. For some reasons there are help categories without handbooks [20:15] e.g. if you click through the system settings modules, about half of them are missing (or well, inexistent) [20:15] yofel: there is a en and en_US dirs in the khelpcenter [20:15] en has some other lang in it [20:15] en_US is empty [20:16] makes me think that if I switch langs it would show up [20:20] brb === ahoneybun_ is now known as ahoneybun [20:24] that did not work [20:41] Riddell: the translation support is not there yet [20:41] I got the email from Weiller [20:41] I'm looking into using a translation platform for the translations [20:41] like transifex or pootle [20:45] ahoneybun: wrong directory name [20:45] stat("/usr/share/doc/HTML/en//kubuntu/index.html", 0x7ffce09b3aa0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) [20:45] stat("/usr/share/doc/HTML/en//kubuntu/index.docbook", 0x7ffce09b3aa0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) [20:45] it looks for kubuntu, not kubuntu-docs [20:54] oh wow [20:55] where did you get that yofel [20:56] I want to know how to fix it [20:56] is anyone using quassel on vivid? [20:56] not I [20:56] debfx: me, works fine except for an occasional crash [20:57] ahoneybun: that's from 'strace khelpcenter', but I don't know to fix that. Shouldn't that be set somewhere in the docs packaging? [20:57] yofel: I'll look [20:57] yofel: do you get notifications? [20:57] hm... [20:57] debfx: ping me [20:57] yofel: ping [20:58] the notifications settings page is completely empty for me [20:58] no -.- [20:58] somehow never noticed that o.O... [21:01] dh_install: usr/share/knotifications5/quassel.notifyrc exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere [21:03] * debfx quickly changes that to --fail-missing [21:05] Riddell: ping [21:17] yofel: I can't find it [21:21] ahoneybun: I think setting "X-DocPath=help:/kubuntu-docs/index.html" in khelpcenter-plugin/kubuntu-docs.desktop should fix it? [21:21] seems to fix it at least if I edit /usr/share/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu-docs.desktop [21:22] ahoneybun: okay... now I see what you meant with language.. [21:22] yofel: could you ping me [21:22] debfx: ping [21:23] thanks, works fine now [21:23] \o/ [21:25] yofel: makes sense [21:25] let me see [21:25] wtf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10709227/ [21:25] yofel: but that desktop is a link [21:26] I dont have af [21:27] lang af yofel [21:27] define link? It's not one here [21:27] ahoneybun: me neither as that trace shows [21:27] yofel: that should be on the desktop no? [21:27] but that looks like it tries to open the (alphabetically) first language it finds [21:28] which is... nonsense? [21:28] yofel: is that even a lang on the system [21:28] ? [21:28] ahoneybun: desktop files are really just application metadata, they're not only used for links [21:28] yofel: oh ok [21:29] or well, it is a "link to the kubuntu docs inside khelpcenter" [21:29] oh ok [21:30] yofel: to try out these changes I would have to uninstall kubuntu-docs from the repos, build my local copy and install it? [21:30] ahoneybun: it is "a" valid language, and we don't have language specific doc packages [21:30] oh [21:31] ahoneybun: building a local copy would certainly be a better test [21:31] before uploading anyway [21:31] I only edited the file manually here for a quick test [21:32] I edited the kubuntu-docs.desktop file and will build loca [21:32] *local [21:32] oh crap [21:32] my system lang in konsole is not english [21:32] oh spanish [21:33] how did that happen? ^^ [21:33] oh, I also have a nice setting... [21:33] LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 [21:33] LANGUAGE=en_US [21:34] I was messing with something in system settings [21:34] yofel: how would one build this? [21:34] og [21:34] got it [21:34] k [21:38] yofel: [21:38] yofel: No signature on /home/ahoneybun/Documents/Kubuntu/Docs/kubuntu-docs_15.04ubuntu2_source.changes. [21:39] but if I use dput mykey.asc it tells me to use the source.changes file first [21:39] endless circle [21:39] wait [21:40] the correct procedure is: edit package, debuild -S (which runs debsign for signing), dput _source.changes [21:41] oh [21:41] did not see it for some reason [21:41] let me try again [21:41] I have no key on this system [21:42] I don't think you're kubuntu-dev, so you can't upload it anyway [21:42] my PPA [21:42] https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages [21:42] then the version should have a ~ppa1 suffix or so [21:42] (not required, but good practice) [21:43] running debsign failed [21:43] anyway, you'll need a PGP key that's registered on launchpad to upload the package [21:44] I have 2 [21:44] none on this system [21:45] gpg --list-key is empty [21:45] right, you'll need one of the private keys on your system [21:46] how do I get it on here? [21:46] I can't keep making them [21:46] either you just copy your ~/.gnupg folder from the other system, or you could export the secret key. In any case, be careful to not leave them lying around somewhere public [21:47] yofel: I have no other system [21:47] so exporting or making a new one are the only options [21:47] uh... if you don't have backups of the old keys you need to make a new one [21:47] damn [21:47] ok [21:48] and maybe make a secret key export and store it in a safe this time :P [21:49] will do this time [21:49] sudo gpg --output keyFile --armor --export 041DA354 ? [21:49] sample key [21:51] yofel: ^ [21:52] that's the public key, you'll need that too. The secret one would be 'gpg --export-secret-key --armor 041DA354 > out.key' [21:52] ok [21:58] yofel: backuped [22:11] The latest mesa dri updates stops corruption upon login. But now calling any new window to screen the whole screen flickers [22:12] I'm using two monitors with OSS amd video drivers [22:13] darthanubis: not our field of expertise I fear, #ubuntu-x might know more [22:14] hi [22:14] does anyone have source for gtk-qt-engine packages for 15.04? [22:14] field of expertise, it ws updates to kubuntu 15.04, is that not a concern for this channel? [22:15] yofel: it says I have no secret key [22:15] oh wait [22:16] it might not look for the right key, is the email right? [22:16] yofel: it was set to my hostname [22:17] aaah, seems like some setup is missing. make sure you set DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME in your .bashrc [22:17] that's what'll appear in the changelog [22:17] uploading [22:18] darthanubis: well, yes. But I'm not sure how much we can help with mesa [22:18] but maybe someone will know something [22:19] yofel: is that ok DEBFULLNAME = "Aaron Honeycutt" [22:19] yes [22:20] ok I put that at the end of my .bashrc file [22:20] as well as the email one too [22:20] it should match with the data you set in the gpg key, otherwise you can force a key by setting DEBSIGN_KEYID=... in ~/.devscripts [22:21] its the same [22:23] * ahoneybun laughs that he has spanish in his konsole and he is going to spain in 4 months [22:30] does anyone know of a gtk2-breeze engine? [22:33] There is none [22:33] Upstream isn't very motivated because GTK+ 3 removed the theming engine API [22:40] yofel: other then the wrong lang that fixed it [22:43] Well, all I wanted was a Firefox window that matches the theme [22:43] frecel: looks good to me [22:48] looks like it is danish : https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=da [22:49] might be system wise [22:55] it is a bug [22:58] very weird yofel it is in danish [23:25] darn you ppa [23:28] keeps installing the old version [23:28] got it