[07:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:45] <Riddell> ScottK: fancy a new task? https://blogs.kde.org/2015/03/29/pykde-future-seeking-new-maintainer
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Good Day folks
[11:30] <Riddell> sitter: you udpated the breeze packaging? will you upload to vivid or should I?
[11:30] <sitter> I did so already
[11:30] <Riddell> lovely
[12:09] <ScottK> Riddell: I already wrote him.
[12:09] <ScottK> Not sure how much I'll be able to do, but I'll try and help.
[12:41] <Riddell> classy new sweaters https://www.hellotux.com/kubuntu_sweater_black
[12:43] <Sho_> t-shirt looks like it has a decent cut
[12:44]  * Riddell adds https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-sweaters-added-hellotux-shop
[12:45] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-sweaters-added-hellotux-shop
[13:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: does the new website have any translations?
[14:16] <owlman> Riddell (or anyone): mind if I ask a question about the graphics stack here?
[14:20] <Riddell> you can try, we may not know
[14:21] <owlman> thanks, actually about future plans. Mainly wondering if I should be concentrating on libinput to solve some of my problems ;)
[14:22] <owlman> Is the plan still to move from Xorg to a wayland/weston(?) stack?
[14:24] <Riddell> yep, mgraesslin is working hard on porting stuff to wayland, no deadline when it'll be ready but it won't be this year
[14:24] <Riddell> and I believe libinput is the best library for that stuff but don't take my word for it
[14:25] <mgraesslin> libinput for what?
[14:26] <owlman> New toy. Thinkpad Helix tablet/ultrabook. Has 4 pointing devices: touchscreen, wacom digitiser, touchpad and trackpoint
[14:27] <mgraesslin> owlman: yes, libinput as at least Fedora starts to use it for X11 as well
[14:27] <owlman> so some sort of unified handling for those seems like a good idea
[14:27] <mgraesslin> and as upstream dev in interested area: I would love seeing (K)Ubuntu to follow
[14:29] <owlman> OK. Looks like a first step would be to package xf86-input-libinput
[14:30] <owlman> Haven't done any packaging before, but I'll give it a go
[14:31] <Riddell> owlman: we have a libinput-dev package, isn't that it?
[14:37] <owlman> Riddell: according to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/libinput/ it looks like a seperate package. will investigate further
[14:38] <owlman> Riddell: I've also been investigating/breaking virtual keyboards
[14:39] <mgraesslin> Riddell: libinput-dev is the libinput library, xf86-input-libinput is an xinput "driver" using libinput
[14:41] <owlman> Riddell: It looks maliit framework currently has a dependency on Gsettings, possibly as an interim solution by the ubuntu phablet team to get things working
[14:41] <owlman> does anyone know if qt/kde has a mechanism to read xdg configs?
[14:42] <Riddell> xdg configs?
[14:42] <owlman> i.e. /etc/xdg/*
[14:43] <Riddell> that's just normal kconfig in kf5 land I think
[14:43] <owlman> thanks. more reading :(
[15:26] <_Groo_> hi guys
[15:27] <_Groo_> quick question, what dictionary format does kf5 uses? aspell or myspell?
[15:27] <_Groo_> or ispell? :P
[15:28] <_Groo_> i want to add a dictionary to kde, but im unsure which format kf5 uses
[15:30] <_Groo_> nvm,i just went through my installed dictionaries, it uses aspell 
[15:30] <BluesKaj> looks like myspell and aspell will work , they show up in muon on 15.04
[15:31] <_Groo_> for sure
[15:32] <_Groo_> GHNS in kubuntu to download dictionaries would be a nice touch
[15:32] <_Groo_> does GHNS work with packages?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> what's GHNS ?
[15:35] <jjesse> get hot new stuff
[15:35] <Riddell> anyone want to test this? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kde-config-systemd_1.1.0+git20150330_amd64.deb
[15:36] <Riddell> _Groo_: language packs should bring in dictionaries
[15:36] <Riddell> and kcm locale should be fixed to bring in language packages, I have a gsoc project for that
[15:37] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah but for ex, i use english language but im in brazil, so pt-br locales and i just want both dictionaries
[15:37] <_Groo_> Riddell: but yeah , its just an apt-get away... no biggie
[15:38] <Riddell> I still think kcm locale (or the normal muon install) would be sufficient
[15:40] <_Groo_> did anyone tested kde telepathy in utopic? with 2-way authentication? it was supposed to open a browser, but it just sits there. i needed to go back to unity/empathy, create my account and get back to kf5
[15:45] <tuv0k> I have a cpu load of 100% on one core. Looks like it may be plasmashell
[15:46] <tuv0k> system monitor does not show the load as such in the process table, but does in the system load graph, and I can see it via htop
[15:49] <tuv0k> wasn't plasmashell
[15:49] <tuv0k> killed plasmashell and now two cores are at 100%
[16:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/pending/vivid-core-armhf.tar.gz
[16:25] <_Groo_> Riddell: any news on calligra 2.9.1?
[16:26] <Riddell> _Groo_: still todo
[16:26] <_Groo_> Riddell: k
[17:11] <sitter> Riddell: until further notice KCI is not integrating as I need to transition away from lxc as it ended up horribly broken due to the systemd switch
[18:49] <ghostcube> hmmm its an april joke isnt it?
[18:49] <ghostcube> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community
[18:51]  * ahoneybun wonders who would use it
[18:57] <mparillo> ghostcube: Based on this, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Ivan%20Gotyaovich&t=qupzilla I assume it is an early April's Fools joke.
[18:57] <ghostcube> ok
[19:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I dont follow your email :P
[19:56] <shadeslayer> Do we need to poke cjwatson?
[20:05] <ahoneybun> could someone confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/1434857 ?
[20:09] <ahoneybun> Riddell: where we the khelpcenter files at in KF5?
[20:09] <ahoneybun> *are
[20:13] <ahoneybun> pretty sure this is not english " Hvordan man installerer Kubuntu"
[20:14] <yofel> ahoneybun: more accurate would  be that "some" docs are missing. For some reasons there are help categories without handbooks
[20:15] <yofel> e.g. if you click through the system settings modules, about half of them are missing (or well, inexistent)
[20:15] <ahoneybun> yofel: there is a en and en_US dirs in the khelpcenter
[20:15] <ahoneybun> en has some other lang in it
[20:15] <ahoneybun> en_US is empty
[20:16] <ahoneybun> makes me think that if I switch langs it would show up
[20:20] <ahoneybun> brb
[20:24] <ahoneybun> that did not work
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the translation support is not there yet
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> I got the email from Weiller
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> I'm looking into using a translation platform for the translations
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> like transifex or pootle
[20:45] <yofel> ahoneybun: wrong directory name
[20:45] <yofel> stat("/usr/share/doc/HTML/en//kubuntu/index.html", 0x7ffce09b3aa0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[20:45] <yofel> stat("/usr/share/doc/HTML/en//kubuntu/index.docbook", 0x7ffce09b3aa0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[20:45] <yofel> it looks for kubuntu, not kubuntu-docs
[20:54] <ahoneybun> oh wow
[20:55] <ahoneybun> where did you get that yofel
[20:56] <ahoneybun> I want to know how to fix it
[20:56] <debfx> is anyone using quassel on vivid?
[20:56] <ahoneybun> not I
[20:56] <yofel> debfx: me, works fine except for an occasional crash
[20:57] <yofel> ahoneybun: that's from 'strace khelpcenter', but I don't know to fix that. Shouldn't that be set somewhere in the docs packaging?
[20:57] <ahoneybun> yofel: I'll look
[20:57] <debfx> yofel: do you get notifications?
[20:57] <yofel> hm...
[20:57] <yofel> debfx: ping me
[20:57] <debfx> yofel: ping
[20:58] <debfx> the notifications settings page is completely empty for me
[20:58] <yofel> no -.-
[20:58] <yofel> somehow never noticed that o.O...
[21:01] <debfx> dh_install: usr/share/knotifications5/quassel.notifyrc exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere
[21:03]  * debfx quickly changes that to --fail-missing
[21:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ping
[21:17] <ahoneybun> yofel: I can't find it
[21:21] <yofel> ahoneybun: I think setting "X-DocPath=help:/kubuntu-docs/index.html" in khelpcenter-plugin/kubuntu-docs.desktop should fix it?
[21:21] <yofel> seems to fix it at least if I edit /usr/share/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu-docs.desktop
[21:22] <yofel> ahoneybun: okay... now I see what you meant with language..
[21:22] <debfx> yofel: could you ping me
[21:22] <yofel> debfx: ping
[21:23] <debfx> thanks, works fine now
[21:23] <yofel> \o/
[21:25] <ahoneybun> yofel: makes sense
[21:25] <ahoneybun> let me see
[21:25] <yofel> wtf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10709227/
[21:25] <ahoneybun> yofel: but that desktop is a link 
[21:26] <ahoneybun> I dont have af
[21:27] <ahoneybun> lang af yofel
[21:27] <yofel> define link? It's not one here
[21:27] <yofel> ahoneybun: me neither as that trace shows
[21:27] <ahoneybun> yofel: that should be on the desktop no?
[21:27] <yofel> but that looks like it tries to open the (alphabetically) first language it finds
[21:28] <yofel> which is... nonsense?
[21:28] <ahoneybun> yofel: is that even a lang on the system
[21:28] <ahoneybun> ?
[21:28] <yofel> ahoneybun: desktop files are really just application metadata, they're not only used for links
[21:28] <ahoneybun> yofel: oh ok
[21:29] <yofel> or well, it is a "link to the kubuntu docs inside khelpcenter"
[21:29] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[21:30] <ahoneybun> yofel: to try out these changes I would have to uninstall kubuntu-docs from the repos, build my local copy and install it?
[21:30] <yofel> ahoneybun: it is "a" valid language, and we don't have language specific doc packages
[21:30] <ahoneybun> oh
[21:31] <yofel> ahoneybun: building a local copy would certainly be a better test
[21:31] <ahoneybun> before uploading anyway
[21:31] <yofel> I only edited the file manually here for a quick test
[21:32] <ahoneybun> I edited the kubuntu-docs.desktop file and will build loca
[21:32] <ahoneybun> *local
[21:32] <ahoneybun> oh crap
[21:32] <ahoneybun> my system lang in konsole is not english
[21:32] <ahoneybun> oh spanish
[21:33] <yofel> how did that happen? ^^
[21:33] <yofel> oh, I also have a nice setting...
[21:33] <yofel> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[21:33] <yofel> LANGUAGE=en_US
[21:34] <ahoneybun> I was messing with something in system settings
[21:34] <ahoneybun> yofel: how would one build this?
[21:34] <ahoneybun> og
[21:34] <ahoneybun> got it
[21:34] <yofel> k
[21:38] <ahoneybun> yofel: 
[21:38] <ahoneybun> yofel: No signature on /home/ahoneybun/Documents/Kubuntu/Docs/kubuntu-docs_15.04ubuntu2_source.changes.
[21:39] <ahoneybun> but if I use dput mykey.asc it tells me to use the source.changes file first
[21:39] <ahoneybun> endless circle
[21:39] <yofel> wait
[21:40] <yofel> the correct procedure is: edit package, debuild -S (which runs debsign for signing), dput <target> <pkg>_source.changes
[21:41] <ahoneybun> oh
[21:41] <ahoneybun> did not see it for some reason
[21:41] <ahoneybun> let me try again
[21:41] <ahoneybun> I have no key on this system
[21:42] <yofel> I don't think you're kubuntu-dev, so you can't upload it anyway
[21:42] <ahoneybun> my PPA
[21:42] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages
[21:42] <yofel> then the version should have a ~ppa1 suffix or so
[21:42] <yofel> (not required, but good practice)
[21:43] <ahoneybun> running debsign failed
[21:43] <yofel> anyway, you'll need a PGP key that's registered on launchpad to upload the package
[21:44] <ahoneybun> I have 2
[21:44] <ahoneybun> none on this system
[21:45] <ahoneybun> gpg --list-key is empty
[21:45] <yofel> right, you'll need one of the private keys on your system
[21:46] <ahoneybun> how do I get it on here?
[21:46] <ahoneybun> I can't keep making them
[21:46] <yofel> either you just copy your ~/.gnupg folder from the other system, or you could export the secret key. In any case, be careful to not leave them lying around somewhere public
[21:47] <ahoneybun> yofel: I have no other system
[21:47] <ahoneybun> so exporting or making a new one are the only options
[21:47] <yofel> uh... if you don't have backups of the old keys you need to make a new one
[21:47] <ahoneybun> damn
[21:47] <ahoneybun> ok
[21:48] <yofel> and maybe make a secret key export and store it in a safe this time :P
[21:49] <ahoneybun> will do this time
[21:49] <ahoneybun> sudo gpg --output keyFile --armor --export 041DA354  ?
[21:49] <ahoneybun> sample key
[21:51] <ahoneybun> yofel: ^
[21:52] <yofel> that's the public key, you'll need that too. The secret one would be 'gpg --export-secret-key --armor 041DA354 > out.key'
[21:52] <ahoneybun> ok
[21:58] <ahoneybun> yofel: backuped
[22:11] <darthanubis> The latest mesa dri updates stops corruption upon login. But now calling any new window to screen the whole screen flickers
[22:12] <darthanubis> I'm using two monitors with OSS amd video drivers
[22:13] <yofel> darthanubis: not our field of expertise I fear, #ubuntu-x might know more
[22:14] <frecel> hi
[22:14] <frecel> does anyone have source for gtk-qt-engine packages for 15.04?
[22:14] <darthanubis> field of expertise, it ws updates to kubuntu 15.04, is that not a concern for this channel?
[22:15] <ahoneybun> yofel: it says I have no secret key
[22:15] <ahoneybun> oh wait
[22:16] <yofel> it might not look for the right key, is the email right?
[22:16] <ahoneybun> yofel: it was set to my hostname
[22:17] <yofel> aaah, seems like some setup is missing. make sure you set DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME in your .bashrc
[22:17] <yofel> that's what'll appear in the changelog
[22:17] <ahoneybun> uploading
[22:18] <yofel> darthanubis: well, yes. But I'm not sure how much we can help with mesa
[22:18] <yofel> but maybe someone will know something
[22:19] <ahoneybun> yofel: is that ok DEBFULLNAME = "Aaron Honeycutt"
[22:19] <yofel> yes
[22:20] <ahoneybun> ok I put that at the end of my .bashrc file
[22:20] <ahoneybun> as well as the email one too
[22:20] <yofel> it should match with the data you set in the gpg key, otherwise you can force a key by setting DEBSIGN_KEYID=... in ~/.devscripts
[22:21] <ahoneybun> its the same
[22:23]  * ahoneybun laughs that he has spanish in his konsole and he is going to spain in 4 months
[22:30] <frecel> does anyone know of a gtk2-breeze engine?
[22:33] <Sho_> There is none
[22:33] <Sho_> Upstream isn't very motivated because GTK+ 3 removed the theming engine API
[22:40] <ahoneybun> yofel: other then the wrong lang that fixed it
[22:43] <frecel> Well, all I wanted was a Firefox window that matches the theme
[22:43] <ahoneybun> frecel: looks good to me
[22:48] <ahoneybun> looks like it is danish : https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=da
[22:49] <ahoneybun> might be system wise
[22:55] <ahoneybun> it is a bug
[22:58] <ahoneybun> very weird yofel it is in danish
[23:25] <ahoneybun> darn you ppa
[23:28] <ahoneybun> keeps installing the old version
[23:28] <ahoneybun> got it