[00:51] <jamie_> I have an odd question... does anyone know if a SetWindowUrgency is different from de to de
[05:44] <darkxst> jamie_, what is that? and api call somehwere?
[05:45] <jamie_> huh
[05:45] <jamie_> darkxst: SetWindowUrgency
[05:45] <darkxst> <jamie_> I have an odd question... does anyone know if a SetWindowUrgency is different from de to de
[05:46] <jamie_> yes... I have ran into an odd predicament
[05:46] <darkxst> which is?
[05:47] <darkxst> though can't likely help with other DE's than GNOME
[05:48] <jamie_> darkxst: me and someone i was working with for a test for firefox and firefox os... he is in the unity ubuntu and I have a partially modified ubuntu runing the gdm and gnome 3 de and he ran https://gist.github.com/Noitidart/4a55eb617f32fd727c4d on his and it worked properly... I ran it on mine and it does not work even when we have change it to delay and switch windows so that another...
[05:48] <jamie_> ...program is in focus
[05:50] <darkxst> is firefox re
[05:50] <darkxst> really that convoluted? guess it doesnt have g-i
[05:51] <jamie_> well it was set as a test has be run in several firefox browsers and it still didnt not work... it was ran from the scratch pad....
[05:52] <darkxst> I mean the way you get the gtk functions looks like a horid hack, Ive never looked at FFos though
[05:53] <darkxst> gobject-introspection was invented to avoid all that
[05:53] <jamie_> it was ran from webIDE and on a device.... but it was just meant as a decent test
[05:53] <darkxst> but its most probabal firefox don't support that
[05:53] <jamie_> It was ran in firefox on unity and it worked
[05:54] <darkxst> jamie_, unity and gnome use the same gtk
[05:55] <darkxst> could possibly be some difference in the handling of hints between mutter and compiz though
[05:55] <jamie_> then im not sure... we could not find a reason that it was working on one and not the other... we were using team viewer and we both saw it work on one but not the other... on unity it shakes the icon... on gnome 3 it does nothing
[05:56] <darkxst> though if its in a browser wouldn't thing the WM would even matter
[05:59] <jamie_> it has be ran though several builds. the nightly, developers edition, standard... but I am just trying to figure out why it would work on unity... but not on gnome
[05:59] <darkxst> I can't think of any reason
[06:00] <jamie_> :\
[06:00] <darkxst> though still shocked by that code, FFos has no future if its that hard to introspect libraries
[06:01] <jamie_> that was not designed for the firefox os... but we were messing with it in the webIDE scratch pad for the hell of it
[06:01] <jamie_> its not that hard to do it... we were just really board and decided to have some fun and for some odd reason we ran into that problem...
[06:02] <darkxst> take a look at the gnome-shell js code and see what you are missing ;)
[06:02] <darkxst> jamie_, and I used to write in assembler, but no more!
[06:04] <jamie_> darkxst: Im not sure what you mean by look at the gnome-shell js code.... for the most part gnome shell is not js as far as I knew
[06:04] <darkxst> jamie_, its very much js
[06:05] <darkxst> runs off spidermonkey engine
[06:05] <jamie_> ahh... good point
[06:05] <darkxst> the interpreter though has been customised to provide introspection and other stuff
[06:05] <darkxst> so no ctype hackery
[06:06] <jamie_> ahh... so ctype will not work right on gnome you are saying....
[06:06] <darkxst> jamie_, no, it should work fine, but usually its not used at that level
[06:07] <darkxst> pretty sure python uses them for introspection support for example
[06:07] <darkxst> would normally be abstracted away from the end-user via language or toolkit or something
[06:08] <jamie_> darkxst: okay... so this one will not work on gnome... dam... not to annoy or sound stupid... but so you are saying we should avoid using ctype with gnome in this sense
[06:09] <darkxst> jamie_, no, but I would be surprised if there isnt a better(easier) way to do it
[06:10] <darkxst> but there is no reason why anything should be any different in GNOME compared to unity in a browser
[06:10] <mgedmin> doesn't gnome-shell suppress repeated attention hints or something?
[06:10] <jamie_> well it is an API that affects the desk top to push a notification or an action
[06:11] <mgedmin> at least that's what my experiments show: the first attention request results in a notification popping up about "App X wants your attention", then it goes to hide into the message tray
[06:12] <mgedmin> and if the app requests attention gain, nothing visible happens
[06:12] <darkxst> not noticed that
[06:12] <mgedmin> but the message tray still has the app icon to show that it requested your attention (a while ago)
[06:12] <darkxst> new notifications don't do that
[06:12] <darkxst> 3.16
[06:12] <mgedmin> jamie_, what version of gnome are you testing?
[06:12] <darkxst> its actually annoying now, too many notifications in the backlog ;[
[06:13] <jamie_> im in gnome 3 de i think
[06:13] <mgedmin> behavior may differ for different values of x in 3.x ;)
[06:13] <jamie_> one sec... let me check
[06:13] <mgedmin> 'gnome-shell --version' is probably the most relevant version
[06:13] <mgedmin> in case you have a mishmash of versions because you're on Ubuntu or something ;)
[06:14] <jamie_> 3.12.2
[06:15] <jamie_> i have the gdm with gnome 3 de
[06:15] <darkxst> ricotz, hey you going to update gtk and g-i on -staging?
[06:17] <mgedmin> anyway focusing the app clears the notification and if you switch focus away from the app again and have it request attention again, you should get a new notification
[06:17] <jamie_> i didnt get any at all and it made no dang sense at all
[06:17] <jamie_> im gonna try again real fast
[06:19] <jamie_> no... nothing
[06:19] <mgedmin> ok, you can use xwininfo to click on a window to get its ID, then have it demand attention, then check with xprop -id $that_id
[06:20] <mgedmin> _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) should change to _NET_WM_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION
[06:20] <mgedmin> (allowing that window to get focus makes it revert to _NET_WM_STATE_FOCUSED)
[06:20] <mgedmin> this way you can at least bisect if your code is setting the wm hint correctly...
[06:20] <mgedmin> (although if it works on unity, it probably is)
[06:24] <jamie_> well.... ill just call it for now.... ill work on this tomorrow at a more decent hour
[06:24] <jamie_> its 2:30 am here... i do not have the brain power for this
[06:52] <ricotz> darkxst, haven't got to it yet, will do in a bit
[06:53] <darkxst> ricotz, ok
[06:53] <ricotz> darkxst, also glib 2.44 isnt available yet
[06:54] <darkxst> btw have you seen https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743897?
[06:54] <darkxst> I'm getting that in atleast totem and gnome-maps
[06:55] <ricotz> darkxst, let me try this later
[06:57] <darkxst> I tried with cogl/clutter 1.18 and also happend, but my current card is quite new
[06:58] <darkxst> gtx750
[06:58] <darkxst> maxwell
[06:59] <darkxst> new to me atleast, guess they have been around atleast a year now?
[07:00] <ricotz> darkxst, iirc this might be linker/dep issue, due a removed dep on pthread
[07:02] <ricotz> darkxst, hmm, i guess this was another problem, are you able to run "glmark2" ?
[07:03] <ricotz> darkxst, pushing glib, g-i and gtk+
[07:07] <Noskcaj> ricotz, Would you have time to package the 3.16 version of libgit2-glib and gitg for vivid-release? They are partially broken currently due to kde's need for a newer libgit2
[07:07] <Noskcaj> I tried to package them, but there was an issue i couldn't fix
[07:08] <darkxst> ricotz, Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 224: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
[07:08] <Noskcaj> https://launchpad.net/~noskcaj/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages is my WIP packages
[07:08] <darkxst> (glmark2)
[07:08] <darkxst> Noskcaj, logs of failure?
[07:09] <Noskcaj> https://launchpad.net/~noskcaj/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+build/7100566/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.gitg_3.15.2-0ubuntu1~vivid2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[07:09] <ricotz> Noskcaj, a linker issue due a missing symbol
[07:09] <Noskcaj> ricotz, That much i worked out, nothing further
[07:10] <darkxst> its vala right?
[07:10] <ricotz> so just grep through libgitg if it is there
[07:10] <ricotz> libgitg/.libs/libgitg-1.0.so: undefined reference to `ggit_cred_ssh_key_from_agent_new'
[07:12] <ricotz> Noskcaj, i would expect the required fix should go upstream
[07:12] <ricotz> darkxst, ok, i see
[07:14] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ricotz I could never reproduce that under jhbuild, probably not an upstream issue
[07:15] <ricotz> darkxst, dont underestimate --as-needed ;)
[07:16] <ricotz> ... just a thought, i am not able to look into this now
[07:16] <darkxst> ricotz, we get the as-needed bugs in jhbuild, don't think I have ever seen one that happens in packaging and not jhbuild
[07:17]  * darkxst wonders if it needs an updated vala or some such
[07:21] <Noskcaj> Is it normal for the code to have the line: #line 215 "/home/garrett/hacking/gnome/gitg/libgitg/gitg-credentials-manager.vala"
[07:21] <Noskcaj> every second line that is there
[07:22] <mgedmin> yes, for code that is compiled from vala to C
[07:22] <Noskcaj> ok
[07:23] <Noskcaj> that's not the issue then
[07:36] <Noskcaj> So that symbol is missing in the new libgit2-glib, i assume because ssh2 support is off. Turning it on has issues with finding the build-deps needed
[07:39] <ricotz> Noskcaj, so likely libgit2 isn't built with ssh support either
[07:40] <darkxst> Noskcaj, didnt I tell you all this a week or two ago ?
[07:41] <Noskcaj> maybe, i had a heap of stuff due that week. I'll check libgit2 in a hour or so
[07:41] <darkxst> the code to explicitly enable/disable ssh was added after last release, but the auto checks could be failing
[15:47] <allenskd> not sure if its me only but ubuntu software center when clicking on a package makes the font color all white... (a few styling issues)
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