| Spyidonas | Hello guys can you help with a small issue i have? | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| JanC | Spyidonas: I going to sleep, but just ask your question and if people can help, maybe they will (once they see it, have patience...) | 00:17 |
| Spyidonas | its a pretty simple one , i followed this guide http://www.krizna.com/ubuntu/setup-mail-server-ubuntu-14-04/ | 00:17 |
| verdeP | mail server and simple... | 00:18 |
| verdeP | <_< | 00:18 |
| Spyidonas | but now i want to update the certificate , i change the lines about the keys inside my main.cf | 00:18 |
| Spyidonas | but outlook doesnt recieve the new certificate | 00:18 |
| Spyidonas | it keeps on getting the old one | 00:18 |
| JanC | did you restart? | 00:18 |
| Spyidonas | does outlook 'caches' it? | 00:19 |
| Spyidonas | yes | 00:19 |
| Spyidonas | smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/key.crt | 00:19 |
| Spyidonas | smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/issued/myserver.key | 00:19 |
| Spyidonas | smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/key.ca-bundle | 00:19 |
| Spyidonas | smtpd_use_tls = yes | 00:19 |
| Spyidonas | smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes | 00:19 |
| Spyidonas | is what my main.cf says. | 00:19 |
| Spyidonas | postfix restarted and the whole server, my pc too | 00:21 |
| JanC | so you restarted both Postfix & Dovecot, and updated the keys in the right place(s)? | 00:21 |
| Spyidonas | yeap | 00:21 |
| Spyidonas | if the right place is only main.cf | 00:21 |
| Spyidonas | (according to this tutorial its the only place) | 00:22 |
| JanC | Dovecot? | 00:24 |
| JanC | read the manuals for both Postfix & Dovecot | 00:25 |
| Spyidonas | no, you think it has settings for that? | 00:25 |
| Spyidonas | ok | 00:25 |
| JanC | and maybe also Outlook manuals | 00:25 |
| Spyidonas | thanks JanC | 00:26 |
| JanC | Spyidonas: as verdeP indicated, mail servers aren't "simple", so it's important to understand the mail server(s) you run | 00:31 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: Sure but that specific was simple , i fight with getting it to work 2 weeks now >_<, still Hotmail cuts off my email... | 00:33 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: In the end i needed to add the new keys to dovecot ssl config file thing | 00:33 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: I never understood why mail servers are so complicated :/ | 00:34 |
| verdeP | its really too bad yeah | 00:34 |
| JanC | Hotmail isn't exactly an example of how to configure a mail server correctly... | 00:34 |
| JanC | neither is gmail | 00:35 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: Yes but my emails are cutted by Hotmail they dont go in spam folder either, they are completly vanished | 00:35 |
| JanC | Spyidonas: so? | 00:36 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: Gmail on the other hand recieves all my emails and after setting up dkim and the other dmarc thing and some txt things they dont go on the spam folder | 00:36 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: So when i send to whoever owns a @outlook, @live account they never recieve anything. | 00:37 |
| JanC | I don't care | 00:37 |
| JanC | if their mail servers don't work right, their customers should move elsewhere | 00:38 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: Good point, but imagine telling all your friends that Facebook is broken and they should move to Google+. Easy to say , not all of them will do it | 00:41 |
| JanC | I've never had a Facebook account ;) | 00:42 |
| JanC | but e-mail is based on standards | 00:42 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: Apparently every company sets its own standards then, there are a bazillion of standars out there, some company accept all of them some part of them | 00:47 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: In the email case, while dkim and dmarc are standars gmail choose to ignore them while some other will completly cut you off. You can't deny that DMARC is a standard either. | 00:48 |
| JanC | Spyidonas: actually, the problem is with companies which apply DMARC incorrectly and/or restrict their customers too strictly | 00:50 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: Yeah its like CSS and HTML, its the standard sure, but noone implements them 100% or have their own version of the standard. | 00:51 |
| JanC | e.g. making it impossible to use mailing lists | 00:51 |
| JanC | Spyidonas: it's not like that | 00:52 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: its all about the money... | 00:53 |
| JanC | it's companies purposely obstructing their customers | 00:53 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: yeah, you cant even send a properly styled email these days | 00:53 |
| verdeP | ewww text only pls | 00:54 |
| JanC | I prefer plain text mails ;-) | 00:54 |
| verdeP | JanC++ | 00:54 |
| JanC | but styled mails should work if they have no external links... | 00:55 |
| JanC | and if really useful | 00:55 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: well Gmail cuts of <style> tags | 00:56 |
| JanC | no eternal included links | 00:56 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: im sure Hotmail has its issues too | 00:56 |
| JanC | no external * | 00:56 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: you pretty much have to inline everything , and apply hacks to the inline styling | 00:56 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: its fun :( | 00:57 |
| JanC | Gmail also has an IMAP interface, even if it's broken | 00:57 |
| JanC | gmail as a user agent has always been broken beyond repair anyway :P | 00:58 |
| verdeP | i like gmail a lot i wish they had an open source google mail server i could install | 00:59 |
| hehe | lol | 01:00 |
| hehe | gmail is bs | 01:00 |
| hehe | however nice UI | 01:00 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: google is evil | 01:00 |
| Spyidonas | JanC: :P | 01:00 |
| JanC | verdeP: do you use gmail with mailing lists? | 01:00 |
| JanC | Spyidonas: I don't like to generalise | 01:00 |
| verdeP | a few but i dont really like mail lists, i prefer just looking on e.g. github etc | 01:03 |
| * JanC now really going to sleep (only about 3h of sleep left...) | 01:08 | |
| verdeP | ugh | 01:26 |
| fishcooker | how to disable all cron job for 1 hour for maintenance? | 03:53 |
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| andol | fishcooker: The easiest is probably to simply shutdown the cron daemon, and making sure to remember turning it on again afterwards. | 04:11 |
| fishcooker | which cron daemon service should be shutdown, andol? | 04:31 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:05 |
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| Sling | fcking uefi/gpt modern crap, always gives me issues | 08:58 |
| Sling | fresh 14.04 install on a 8TB raid10 array @ LSI controller, installation goes fine, it finds disks, i used the guided partitioning, it made the bootable EFI partition, it installed grub in the end of the installation | 08:59 |
| Sling | it added 'ubuntu' to the EFI menu, I boot into it, and all i get is a grub> prompt | 08:59 |
| Sling | ls shows me (hd0) (hd0,gpt3) (hd0,gpt2) (hd0,gpt1) | 09:00 |
| Sling | why doesn't it just boot the OS? what am I doing wrong (i just followed the installer, no weird modifications made) | 09:00 |
| jamespage | jpds, hey - which of the numerous strongswan packages is needed for the new neutron vpnaas support? | 09:13 |
| jamespage | zhhuabj, maybe you can answer that question :-) ^^ | 09:14 |
| zhhuabj | jamespage, hua@hua-ThinkPad-T440p:~$ ipsec --version | 09:14 |
| zhhuabj | Linux strongSwan U5.1.2/K4.0.0-040000rc2-generic | 09:14 |
| jamespage | zhhuabj, yeah - I'm updating the packaging - need to know which strongswan package is required - just strongswan? | 09:18 |
| jamespage | none of the plugins? | 09:18 |
| zhhuabj | jamespage, strongswan 5.x is ok | 09:18 |
| zhhuabj | jamespage, but I only test default strongswan package 5.1.2 in ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10, other 5.x version should be ok as well. | 09:20 |
| jamespage | zhhuabj, awesome - thanks! | 09:21 |
| zhhuabj | jamespage, thanks :) | 09:23 |
| jamespage | zhhuabj, nice work btw - great to have a fully supportable vpn option in ubuntu again | 09:23 |
| zhhuabj | jamespage, are you enabling charm support for strongswan now ? | 09:25 |
| jamespage | zhhuabj, if I get to it in time, yes | 09:25 |
| jamespage | zhhuabj, just working through the kilo-3 release atm | 09:26 |
| zhhuabj | jamespage, I saw charm is using vpn-agent instead of l3-agent, have charm supported openswan now ? | 09:28 |
| jamespage | zhhuabj, "if I get to it in time, yes" so not yet :-) | 09:28 |
| zhhuabj | jamespage, got it | 09:30 |
| salih-emin | Last night I was reading the "server" chapter of the "Official Ubuntu Book [Published Jul 15, 2014 by Prentice Hall]", and in there it says that "One of the main differences of Ubuntu Server flavor is the customized kernel"... Is this still true ? I thought desktop and servert kernel are now one and the same (for about 2 years now). But nevertheless I searched the packages and I didn't find any linux-kernel-server... So is this a b | 09:42 |
| salih-emin | ook errata ? or am I missing something ? | 09:42 |
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| bekks | salih-emin: All Ubuntu favors share the same customized kernel. | 09:50 |
| bekks | *flavors | 09:50 |
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| jamespage | jdstrand, hey - are your team likely to get to MIR bug 1430082 before release? | 10:27 |
| jamespage | just assessing whether we need to disable the new token format support in keystone for vivid/kilo. | 10:28 |
| jamespage | zul, coreycb: kilo-3 all in the pipeline for vivid - most things waiting for release team review. | 10:33 |
| rbasak | strikov: how about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/1103353? Patch available. Just needs to be backported and verified for each relevant release. | 11:23 |
| rbasak | strikov: could be a good one for you to handle SRU policy. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 11:24 |
| strikov | rbasak: ok, i'll look into this! thanks! | 11:30 |
| coreycb | jamespage, awesome | 11:34 |
| coreycb | jamespage, zul, I have a round of new proposals for icehouse 2014.1.4. there was a bad dependency in keystone's requirements.txt plus some other bugs fixed. | 11:36 |
| jamespage | sarnold, hey - can you +1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pysaml2/+bug/1407695 from security team review - I think the pysaml stuff is all now resolved | 12:28 |
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| Arrick | hey all, what cmd do I run to find out what drives are attached? | 12:52 |
| Arrick | my mysql wont allow me to connect, and I am thinking that the programs were all stored in the data dir (mounted as a folder) when I built the machine... | 12:52 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Look in /dev ? | 12:52 |
| lordievader | Or in /sys/class/block/ | 12:53 |
| jrwren | Arrick: df will show you disk usage per partition mounted, that sounds like what you want. See also, cat /proc/partitions | 13:00 |
| Arrick | I'm thinking my data directory is no longer connected... it's on the san | 13:03 |
| zkvvoob | Hello! I'm getting an Internal Server Error 500 when I activate the BuddyPress plugin on a WordPress based site. The site is on a Ubuntu 14.04 server running Apache 2.4.7. Here's the error message that is generated every time: http://pastebin.com/GCGSq6WD Could you help me find out why this is happening? | 13:03 |
| Arrick | Ok... trying to start or stop mysql doesnt work.... using either "service mysql start" or "service mysql stop" or even the "stop mysql" or "start mysql" ... when I tried /etc/init.d/mysql stop it told me to9 use service or stop... | 13:10 |
| jdstrand | jamespage: re 1430082, I'll ask the team and get people on it | 13:13 |
| jamespage | jdstrand, thanks - much appreciated | 13:13 |
| lordievader | Arrick: What is the exact output of 'sudo service mysql start'? | 13:13 |
| Arrick | start: Job failed to start | 13:14 |
| Arrick | this system has been running for the last 2 years, and I came in today to our site not being able to connect to the db | 13:14 |
| lordievader | Arrick: What do the logs say about it? | 13:15 |
| Arrick | not sure where to look | 13:15 |
| lordievader | Arrick: As a start, syslog. | 13:18 |
| Arrick | where would that be located? | 13:18 |
| maxb | Or, guessing here, possibly in /var/log/upstart/, if the upstart job is failing | 13:19 |
| Arrick | thanks | 13:19 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Syslog is in /var/log/syslog, Mysql usually logs to the syslogger. | 13:20 |
| jamespage | sarnold, hey - just poking through MIR bugs for openstack - and tripped over this one again: | 13:22 |
| jamespage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conntrack/+bug/1381450 | 13:22 |
| maxb | Though, the specifics of the error message imply that the upstart job failed, so the mysql daemon probably never started | 13:22 |
| jamespage | that's quite important to support router HA for neutron | 13:23 |
| Arrick | correct... | 13:23 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Does mysql error? | 13:27 |
| Arrick | ls lordievader I have mysql.err in there, but they are empty | 13:30 |
| Arrick | and mysql.log.1.gz etc.. | 13:30 |
| lordievader | Arrick: I was talking about the syslog, does mysql show errors there? | 13:30 |
| Arrick | up through 7 | 13:30 |
| Arrick | mysql not found in syslog | 13:31 |
| Arrick | and the last logs were written on the 27th (3 days ago) | 13:31 |
| lordievader | You could invoke mysql manually, perhaps that shows what is going wrong. | 13:32 |
| lordievader | According the the Debian init script it is: /usr/bin/mysqld_safe | 13:33 |
| Arrick | hrmmmm... lordievader I am unsure what to run to invoke it manually... I know when I use mysql -u username -p it says Error 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL Server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) | 13:41 |
| lordievader | Arrick: As I said, accoring the the Debian init script it is: /usr/bin/mysqld_safe | 13:42 |
| lordievader | Arrick: You are using the mysql client ;) | 13:42 |
| Arrick | how do I invoke it? | 13:42 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Run that command. | 13:43 |
| Arrick | no such animal, looking at the files in there right now. | 13:43 |
| strikov | rbasak: juju-1.22 should be in your inbox | 13:44 |
| lordievader | Hmm, does the Ubuntu version differ on that. | 13:44 |
| Arrick | no, I was missing a d | 13:44 |
| Arrick | thanks | 13:44 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Does it show errors? | 13:44 |
| Arrick | looking | 13:44 |
| Arrick | its stuck at starting mysqld daemon with database from /var/lib/mysql | 13:45 |
| lordievader | Stuck, or is it actually running? | 13:47 |
| Arrick | seems to be running now | 13:47 |
| Arrick | I was able to logon | 13:47 |
| lordievader | Hmm. What does the upstart log say? | 13:48 |
| lordievader | Specifically the mysql upstart log. | 13:48 |
| Arrick | there is noting in the upstart log | 13:51 |
| lordievader | Nothing? | 13:51 |
| Arrick | I have a lot of .log.6.gz and stuff, but nothing that that is a straight .log file | 13:55 |
| Arrick | ls | 13:55 |
| lordievader | Hmm. | 13:55 |
| lordievader | Arrick: What version of Ubuntu do you run? | 13:55 |
| Arrick | its currently 12.04 | 13:55 |
| Arrick | 12.04.3 | 13:56 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ran updates on 15.04 this morning and now mysql won't start | 13:58 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Anyone else having that issue? | 13:58 |
| lordievader | Arrick, FunnyLookinHat: What version of the mysql server do you both have? | 13:59 |
| FunnyLookinHat | mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.6.23, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using EditLine wrapper | 13:59 |
| Arrick | I believe its either 5 or 5.5, one sec | 13:59 |
| lordievader | Err, package version please. | 13:59 |
| Arrick | 5.5.34 | 14:00 |
| lordievader | !info mysql-server-5.5 precise | 14:00 |
| FunnyLookinHat | 5.6.23-1~exp1~ubuntu4 | 14:00 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ( vivid ) | 14:00 |
| ubottu | mysql-server-5.5 (source: mysql-5.5): MySQL database server binaries and system database setup. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.41-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 (precise), package size 8523 kB, installed size 30579 kB | 14:00 |
| Arrick | should be running the socket of /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock | 14:00 |
| lordievader | Hmm, guess unrelated then. | 14:00 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ugh | 14:00 |
| FunnyLookinHat | :-P | 14:00 |
| lordievader | Arrick: There s an update available, perhaps that fixes things. | 14:00 |
| rbasak | FunnyLookinHat: yes. Workaround are in the bugs. Fixes are ready and just waiting on the release team. | 14:00 |
| Arrick | lordievader, I have 2 years of data in there, I dont want to muck that up..... | 14:01 |
| FunnyLookinHat | rbasak, Ah - I can't find the bug on LP - got a URL? | 14:01 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Then I assume you have a backup. | 14:01 |
| rbasak | FunnyLookinHat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bug/1435823 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bug/1436178 | 14:01 |
| FunnyLookinHat | rbasak, thank you! | 14:01 |
| rbasak | FunnyLookinHat: also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bug/1434758 | 14:02 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Else you should make one. Now. | 14:02 |
| Arrick | I just found my backup | 14:02 |
| Arrick | lol | 14:02 |
| Arrick | I was looking for that first, | 14:02 |
| Arrick | I would run a backup over ssh, but I am not sure how to do that | 14:03 |
| Arrick | I do have a /var/log/mysql/error.log http://pastebin.com/jreED4hM | 14:08 |
| zkvvoob | Hello! I'm getting an Internal Server Error 500 when I activate the BuddyPress plugin on a WordPress based site. The site is on a Ubuntu 14.04 server running Apache 2.4.7. Here's the error message that is generated every time: http://pastebin.com/GCGSq6WD Could you help me find out why this is happening? | 14:11 |
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| Arrick | lordievader start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.2" (uid=1000 pid=1472 comm="start mysql ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init") | 14:39 |
| Arrick | I rebooted it. | 14:39 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Did rebooting fix it? | 14:43 |
| Arrick | nope | 14:43 |
| Arrick | I had to start the mysqldsafe again to access it, looking up commands to backup the db's now... | 14:43 |
| oldsk00l | test | 14:45 |
| lordievader | Arrick: /var/lib/mysql contains the db's. Simply backup that dir. | 14:51 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Anyhow, I get the idea that the upstart script is broken. | 14:51 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Updating might fix that. | 14:51 |
| Arrick | done, next? | 14:55 |
| Arrick | not sure how to update from terminal, Havent played with it in so long | 14:55 |
| lordievader | Arrick: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 14:57 |
| Arrick | that cmd doesnt make any changes, just tells me it read them all | 14:58 |
| lordievader | ? | 14:59 |
| Arrick | it says | 14:59 |
| lordievader | !paste | 14:59 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 14:59 |
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| Arrick | hit http:P//us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates/ with all the packages | 14:59 |
| Arrick | I know better than to paste, lol | 14:59 |
| lordievader | ? Could you pastebin the full output? | 15:00 |
| Arrick | >http://paste.ubuntu.com/10707229/ | 15:02 |
| Arrick | sorry about the > | 15:02 |
| lordievader | Arrick: What is wrong with that? | 15:03 |
| lordievader | Standard apt-get update output, though not complete/ | 15:03 |
| Arrick | it doesnt do anything... | 15:04 |
| lordievader | Could you pastebin the full output with the input command? | 15:06 |
| Arrick | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10707280/ | 15:10 |
| Arrick | if I try them separate I get no space left on drive | 15:11 |
| Arrick | I'll get back to you in a bit lordievader I am having our VM admin double my drive space | 15:20 |
| lordievader | Ah, that is likely the root cause of all your problems :P | 15:21 |
| Arrick | ok, they added mode space, how do I expand it? | 15:22 |
| zkvvoob | Hello! I'm getting an Internal Server Error 500 when I activate the BuddyPress plugin on a WordPress based site. The site is on a Ubuntu 14.04 server running Apache 2.4.7. Here's the error message that is generated every time: http://pastebin.com/GCGSq6WD Could you help me find out why this is happening? | 15:28 |
| patdk-wk | ask php why it's crashing | 15:31 |
| zkvvoob | patdk-wk: How do you propose I do this? | 15:35 |
| patdk-wk | by knowing how your server works, I didn't propose and won't propose anything | 15:36 |
| patdk-wk | I did not setup and configure that server | 15:36 |
| patdk-wk | and it looks to be done VERY custom | 15:36 |
| dannf | rbasak: hey - i was trying to test a fix for LP: #1427406, but ran into LP: #1429725 - do you have a workaround for that? i tried backing out the passwordless support, but things got to messy :( | 15:38 |
| Arrick | hey lordievader I have the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10707443/ | 15:42 |
| Arrick | I need to expand the / partition, and there is 30 GB free on sda... I need to expand sda5 lvm /. | 15:44 |
| patdk-wk | well, edit the partition table | 15:45 |
| patdk-wk | then pvextend | 15:45 |
| patdk-wk | then lvextend | 15:45 |
| patdk-wk | then resize2fs | 15:45 |
| patdk-wk | it couldn't be any more simple :) | 15:45 |
| Arrick | yeah, except I have no knowledge of how | 15:46 |
| rbasak | dannf: no idea, sorry. I've not looked at mariadb yet :-/ | 15:55 |
| Arrick | patdk-wk, I have the following when I run fdisk -l, which is the reason why I am confused on what to do... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10707544/ | 16:00 |
| Arrick | I know I need to add room to /dev/mapper/SCGWB008--vg-root | 16:01 |
| rbasak | strikov: o/ | 16:02 |
| rbasak | strikov: sorry, was on the phone before. | 16:02 |
| strikov | rbasak: o? | 16:02 |
| rbasak | strikov: what's the state of Juju and systemd in your package please? I'm confused by pitti's "Fix Committed" change in https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639. Is this correct? | 16:02 |
| strikov | rbasak: looking at the ldap bug now | 16:02 |
| rbasak | strikov: it's a picture of my head and arm, waving at you :) | 16:03 |
| strikov | rbasak: hm, systemd is not available in 1.22 | 16:03 |
| strikov | rbasak: let me double-check | 16:04 |
| strikov | rbasak: is it possible to see why fix commited shows up? | 16:05 |
| strikov | rbasak: i.e. it was manually changed or via package upload | 16:05 |
| rbasak | strikov: manually changed. | 16:06 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Like patdk-wk said, first extend the parition. | 16:26 |
| Arrick | lordievader, thats what I am trying to learn how to do... | 16:27 |
| Arrick | I have created /dev/sda6 with cfdisk | 16:27 |
| Arrick | set it to a linux lvm | 16:27 |
| lordievader | Arrick: parted or fdisk lets you do that. But make sure the start of the partition matches with the old size. | 16:27 |
| Arrick | but for some reason, it keeps telling me there is no /dev/sda6 when I try to format it | 16:28 |
| Arrick | im trying to follow this | 16:28 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Just resize your lvm partition. | 16:28 |
| Arrick | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16515739/extending-logical-volume-in-ubuntu | 16:28 |
| lordievader | No need to format things. | 16:28 |
| Arrick | pvcreate says no such animal | 16:28 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Please first read up on how LVM works if you don't have experience with it. | 16:28 |
| Arrick | in the meantime this is a production server I am trying to get back up | 16:29 |
| lordievader | Even more reason to thoroughly read up on LVM before trying to mess with it. | 16:31 |
| Arrick | you have a link to the right place to read then? there are so many links that provide "cfdisk, then fdisk, then format, then lvextend" | 16:33 |
| lordievader | man <command> ;) | 16:34 |
| lordievader | Man pages are your first source of information on commands. | 16:34 |
| strikov | rbasak: please ignore my juju-1.22 package; juju team changed licenses for some subprojects; i'll fix and resend you the bits | 16:37 |
| rbasak | strikov: no problem, thanks | 16:37 |
| strikov | rbasak: updated and sent to you | 16:56 |
| strikov | rbasak: i won't update this package anymore; any other changes will go to 1.23 | 16:57 |
| strikov | rbasak: ideal state is unachievable; this one seems to be good enough | 16:57 |
| rbasak | strikov: OK. Thanks! | 16:59 |
| strikov | rbasak: do we want -released blocking bug? we planned to manually move it to -released so technically bug is not needed | 17:02 |
| rbasak | strikov: is it released upstream yet? If so then no need to block it. | 17:02 |
| strikov | rbasak: my understanding was that you'll upload juju-1.22 to -proposed and bug is needed to avoid moving to -released automatically | 17:03 |
| strikov | rbasak: is it correct? | 17:03 |
| strikov | rbasak: ah, you opened one already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-core/+bug/1416051 | 17:04 |
| strikov | rbasak: even before i joined the team | 17:04 |
| strikov | rbasak: it's for trusty but we may add vivid there | 17:04 |
| Arrick | lordievader, I found a directory in /totara that was a backup of over 10gb, and that is what caused the system not to start... couldnt hit the logs to generate errors because the disk space was too full. | 17:11 |
| rbasak | strikov: oh, OK. I think I misunderstood you. | 17:17 |
| rbasak | Yes - the bug is there, and the Vivid task is tracked in the "main" task, since it's the development release. | 17:17 |
| strikov | rbasak: okay, understood. thanks | 17:17 |
| rbasak | strikov: I'll review tomorrow morning if that's OK? | 17:18 |
| strikov | rbasak: sure, thanks | 17:18 |
| lordievader | Arrick: Jup, systems will behave strange when their disk is full. | 17:40 |
| Arrick | lol | 17:41 |
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| fullstop | Hi, running 14.04 here, and this has cropped up twice in the last week: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Dc6Sgy83 | 20:32 |
| fullstop | 3.13.0-44-generic | 20:32 |
| fullstop | the server runs fine, but the kern.log fills up quickly since this message repeats over and over and over again | 20:32 |
| RoyK | fullstop: have you updated lately? seems 3.13.0-48 or 3.16.0-33 is current | 20:35 |
| fullstop | I've updated things but not the kernel | 20:36 |
| fullstop | I guess I'm looking to see if this is a known problem and that a kernel update would fix it. | 20:37 |
| RoyK | this is a kernel thing | 20:37 |
| fullstop | yes, clearly | 20:37 |
| * RoyK updates office machine :P | 20:37 | |
| fullstop | :D | 20:38 |
| RoyK^Work | there | 20:39 |
| RoyK^Work | Linux roysk 3.16.0-33-lowlatency #44~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Mar 13 10:51:41 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 20:39 |
| fullstop | I tried the LL kernel on my desktop for a while. It didn't seem to make that much of a difference for me. | 20:41 |
| RoyK | never underestimate the speed of a cheap SSD | 20:41 |
| RoyK | just installed it to do some testing | 20:41 |
| RoyK | I don't really need it | 20:41 |
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| RoyK | this box is a test thing - u1404 - using a mac for most things | 20:42 |
| RoyK | (except servers, which are either debian or rhel/centos) | 20:42 |
| fullstop | yes, most of our servers are ubuntu-server | 20:42 |
| RoyK | ok | 20:42 |
| fullstop | my desktop is arch (sorry!) | 20:42 |
| RoyK | hehe | 20:42 |
| RoyK | no offence ;) | 20:42 |
| RoyK | I don't like ubuntu that much on the server side - too much cutting/bleeding edge stuff | 20:43 |
| RoyK | debian works well, though | 20:43 |
| RoyK | (I know I'm swearing in church) | 20:43 |
| fullstop | I like the rolling releases. I never feel the urge to wipe and start over. :) | 20:44 |
| fullstop | With debian, I have an urge to compile my own stuff since the packages are ancient. | 20:44 |
| RoyK | well, mostly it works | 20:44 |
| Patrickdk | haven't had that issue at all | 20:45 |
| Patrickdk | I have updated my kernel though, to get new features | 20:45 |
| fullstop | and I've run into problems with centos where things like e2fsck had bugs in them and I had to get a package from a newer release to actually recover the folume. | 20:45 |
| fullstop | f=v | 20:45 |
| RoyK | I haven't had too much issues with ubuntu server either, but some of them were rather annoying | 20:45 |
| Patrickdk | heh? again? more mdadm issues? :) | 20:46 |
| RoyK | fullstop: oops - never seen that | 20:46 |
| RoyK | Patrickdk: not really - after I dropped ubuntu server ;) | 20:46 |
| fullstop | it was a database with a large volume. rather stressful, since it would take many hours to restore from backup. | 20:46 |
| RoyK | Patrickdk: but it's just that ubuntu seems very eager to implement things not well tested | 20:47 |
| RoyK | ok, debian is very conservative | 20:47 |
| RoyK | so new stuff must be compiled | 20:47 |
| RoyK | but sometimes that's good | 20:47 |
| Patrickdk | or grab from sid/testing | 20:47 |
| RoyK | yeah, pretty good idea to messup every dependency on the planet | 20:48 |
| fullstop | well, the kernel is updated.. just need to restart the server at some point to test. | 20:48 |
| Patrickdk | hmm? | 20:48 |
| Patrickdk | never had that issue | 20:48 |
| Patrickdk | grab package from sid/testing, rebuild on your release | 20:48 |
| RoyK | I've seen pretty bad things from Sid | 20:48 |
| RoyK | well - so far - just running stock stuff except zfsonlinux | 20:49 |
| Patrickdk | works for most things, rarely will you hit a depend issue | 20:49 |
| RoyK | never fix a running system | 20:49 |
| RoyK | oh - here's a new kernel hack that can make my I/O performance gain .01% - GO | 20:50 |
| RoyK | (not) | 20:50 |
| Patrickdk | no, one should not run it :) | 20:52 |
| RoyK | we're using centos/rhel a lot at work - a bug in the ixgbe 10GE driver makes TX packets in ifconfig and friends return zero - reported more than half a year ago and still not fixed - those RHEL fanatics are still talking about how good RHEL is compared to debian/ubuntu | 20:52 |
| Patrickdk | ya, I built my own ixgbe dkms package, it's in my ppa | 20:53 |
| Patrickdk | haven't had to roll it out to rhel though yet | 20:53 |
| RoyK | same problem in debian/ubuntu? not fixed? | 20:53 |
| Patrickdk | well, depends on the kernel your using | 20:53 |
| Patrickdk | as it comes with the kernel | 20:53 |
| jrwren | each has warts. | 20:54 |
| Patrickdk | and I dunno if it was the same issue, as there where many issues, I was concerned with | 20:54 |
| RoyK | my munin graphs would look a bit better if that thing was fixed | 20:55 |
| Patrickdk | the xen nic issue was really screwing up all my aws vm's | 20:55 |
| Patrickdk | that one is fixed | 20:56 |
| * RoyK wonders why people use xen | 20:56 | |
| Patrickdk | not sure why amazon hasn't changed yet | 20:56 |
| Patrickdk | they are basically mostly kvm now | 20:56 |
| Patrickdk | but still using the xen tooling | 20:56 |
| RoyK | k | 20:57 |
| Patrickdk | atleast all of mine in aws are kvm instances | 20:57 |
| CappyT | Hi everybody... i set up a gre tunnel and i was wondering how can use one of my server as a gateway for the other... I'm not good with routes =/ | 20:57 |
| RoyK | we have a 1024core openstack cluster at work for spawning out VMs to students | 20:58 |
| RoyK | to be reinstalled soon (all ubuntu) | 20:58 |
| RoyK | trying to get those professors to understand that YES - we need IPv6 - not just RFC1918 | 20:59 |
| Patrickdk | I only have 100 cores :( | 20:59 |
| Patrickdk | have it loaded up with just over 800 windows vm's | 21:00 |
| Patrickdk | professors understand rfc1918? | 21:02 |
| jrwren | my networking profs did. :) | 21:04 |
| Patrickdk | royk, just use the cgn addresses :) | 21:05 |
| RoyK | cgn? | 21:05 |
| Patrickdk | carrier grade nat | 21:05 |
| RoyK | we're the college/university in Norway that has the most advanced IPv6 setup - we'll take this further | 21:06 |
| RoyK | and avoid NAT at all costs | 21:06 |
| jrwren | RoyK: thank you for that. I look forward to awesome ipv6 support in OS someday soon :) | 21:07 |
| jrwren | RoyK: is your OS ipv6 config documented publicly anywhere? | 21:07 |
| RoyK | jrwren: most of the IPv6 support is in most OSes now | 21:07 |
| RoyK | jrwren: the problem is the network operators | 21:08 |
| RoyK | jrwren: it's just plain IPv6 - not even DHCPv6 | 21:08 |
| jrwren | RoyK: i'll have to look again. It has been a while, and I have very simple OS needs, just nova, no neutron. | 21:08 |
| jrwren | RoyK: OS manages the radvd ? | 21:09 |
| RoyK | jrwren: not sure | 21:10 |
| RoyK | jrwren: I mostly work with storage and linux and monitoring, but not much with hard core networking | 21:10 |
| rberg_ | I see there was a backported 3.13 kernel for 12.04.. are there any plans to provide the 3.16 kernel available in 14.04 to 12.04? | 21:31 |
| Daviey | jamespage: Am i right in saying that python3-oslo.serialization needs promoting? | 21:41 |
| bananapie | can I debootstrap Debian Wheezy 7 from Ubuntu 10.04 ? | 21:47 |
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| PryMar56 | bananapie, ls -al /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ | grep whee | 21:54 |
| bananapie | yea, it's not there. so I did ln -s sid wheezy | 21:55 |
| bananapie | it seems to have worked. | 21:55 |
| bananapie | Debian is close enough to Ubuntu, that I think I can figure the rest out. | 21:55 |
| bananapie | it bootstrapped. :) | 21:56 |
| bananapie | I can't wait until ubuntu 16.04 LTS, I am really excited about systemd. I already installed 15.04 beta in a vm to test it out :) | 21:56 |
| PryMar56 | bananapie, you could have gone from lucid -> wheezy almost 3 years ago | 21:57 |
| PryMar56 | 2 years and 10 months to be exact | 21:58 |
| bananapie | nah, I am staying on Ubuntu. I like Ubuntu. I am instaling wheezy out of necessity and not choice. I don't like that debian doesn't come with firmware for my nics. | 21:58 |
| bananapie | and ubuntu LTS = 5 years support. Debian is usually 3 years. | 21:58 |
| bananapie | I wanted to switch to CentOS which gives 10 years support, but I missed Ubuntu's working default configs when installing packages | 21:59 |
| sarnold | bananapie: if you don't mind, what kind of tasks wouldy ou be doing on a machine with a ten-year supported OS? I'm surprised how many people find 14.04 is too out of date for what they want to do (mostly those are folks wanting a brand new openjdk..) | 22:02 |
| bananapie | I run more recent versions of Ubuntu for my desktop. | 22:02 |
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| bananapie | But for my servers, I want peace of mind. If I install a server with a config today, I don't want to have to reinstall the server until I want to reinstall it. | 22:03 |
| bananapie | if it ain't broke, don't fix it. | 22:03 |
| PryMar56 | bananapie, apologies, wheezy was released in May, 2013 (not 2012) | 22:03 |
| bananapie | no worries. | 22:03 |
| sarnold | that bit I get :) but ten years is a long time, hehe :) | 22:03 |
| bananapie | Yea, ten years is longer than I would ever need, which is why I compromised 5 years to get working default configs | 22:04 |
| bananapie | btw : 18:03:23 up 976 days, 22:01, 1 user, load average: 0.85, 1.02, 0.92 | 22:04 |
| sarnold | hehe | 22:04 |
| sarnold | I had a machine with >1000 days once... | 22:04 |
| bananapie | I am 24 days away | 22:04 |
| sarnold | I hope your power holds out another thirty.. ;( | 22:04 |
| sarnold | :) | 22:04 |
| bananapie | It will. I'm in a crazy ass data centre | 22:04 |
| bananapie | My servers have redundant power supplies, connected to redundant batteries, connected to redundant generators. in 5 years, they have never had both power circuits off at the same time. | 22:06 |
| bananapie | 976 days ago ubuntu released a kernel patch that affected my installation. | 22:06 |
| sarnold | haha | 22:06 |
| bananapie | affected this server* | 22:06 |
| bananapie | most of my other servers were rebooted more recently. | 22:06 |
| sarnold | I can't wait for our on-the-fly kernel patching for security issues. | 22:07 |
| bananapie | Yea, but even with on the fly patching, I'd still have to do the work during the night just in case. | 22:11 |
| bananapie | although, on the fly patching would be awesome, it would help me convert this machine into a debian box without downtime :) | 22:12 |
| sarnold | hehe I suspect you can change all of userspace onth e fly without reboots if you really wished.. | 22:12 |
| bananapie | ... | 22:13 |
| bananapie | that is a brilliant idea | 22:13 |
| sarnold | .. but the kernel changes, even with on-the-fly updates, is really best suited for small individual fixes, near perfect for most security issues.. wholesale replacement of kernels is just going too far | 22:13 |
| bananapie | yea, true. | 22:13 |
| bananapie | I am going to test the server from chroot. If it works, that means I only have to install the boot loader, kernel and 3rd party drivers during maintenace hours :) | 22:14 |
| bananapie | god I love linux | 22:14 |
| bananapie | thanks for your help | 22:14 |
| bananapie | I have to go | 22:14 |
| beanbag | I dunno what "genius" built 14.04 lts and decided that the bootloader and os should default to whatever back-ass-wards video mode as default, BUT YOU REALLY PICKED A WINNER | 22:36 |
| beanbag | it's caused issues on every box I tried so far | 22:37 |
| beanbag | can't edit the boot command line because it gets so managled you can't see wtf you are doing | 22:37 |
| beanbag | and if you boto it, you get a freaking annoying flashing white screen | 22:38 |
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