[02:22] <mapps> still stuck with proxypass
[04:04] <mapps> gah this is so annoying
[04:05] <mapps> tried proxypass with ajaxterm and same thing
[04:05] <mapps> really got no idea what im doing wrong ;(
[06:02] <knightwise> morning peeps
[06:04] <daftykins> g'morn
[06:05] <knightwise> hey daftykins
[06:05] <knightwise> how are you this morning
[06:05] <daftykins> not too shabby ta, and thee?
[06:05] <daftykins> just debating what to do with myself :D
[06:07] <knightwise> im ok , started the work week as usual :)
[06:07] <knightwise> been trying out the new 15.04 release in a VM but I can't get it working properly somehow
[06:07] <knightwise> after i log in ... i just keep seeing the login manager .. nothing more
[06:08] <daftykins> hrmm
[06:08] <daftykins> which virt tech?
[06:09] <knightwise> virtbox
[06:10] <daftykins> perhaps it's worth a dist-upgrade at a TTY if you can get one?
[06:11] <knightwise> so do a 14.04 and then do a dist upgrade ?
[06:13] <daftykins> nah "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in the 15.04 VM
[06:13] <daftykins> presumably you had 3D acceleration enabled too?
[06:14] <daftykins> despite the name dist-upgrade just gets the latest of all packages
[06:14] <knightwise> ok , i'll check
[06:16] <knightwise> so this is going to be the distro where we can switch from the touch interface to the windowed interface .. right ?
[06:16] <daftykins> pass :D
[06:16] <daftykins> i don't even use desktop
[06:17] <knightwise> because this would be the ultimate thing to use on my Surface pro
[06:17] <knightwise> touch in tablet mode
[06:17] <knightwise> windowed when connecting the keyboard/mouse
[06:18] <daftykins> i found it a tad surprising people buying those and expecting to use Ubuntu
[06:18] <knightwise> mine works perfectly on 14.04
[07:03] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:03] <knightwise> hey MooDoo
[07:03] <knightwise> MooDoo: have you played with the touch interface in 15.04 yet ?
[07:03] <knightwise> i just installed it in a VM and I would like to see how to enable the touch interface
[07:04] <MooDoo> knightwise: no don't have anything touch capable
[07:04] <knightwise> I was thinking of installing it on my Surface pro :)
[07:05] <knightwise> looking forward to using the combo of touch interface / windowed interface on that machine
[07:08] <MooDoo> knightwise: should be ok on a surface, i'm just not keen on touch in general
[07:09] <knightwise> But do you get the option to switch between the touch/windowed interface in 15.04 or is that only for the phone versions of the OS , (its very confusing at the moment)
[07:10] <knightwise> so : without a keyboard/mouse = Ubuntu phone interface with scopes and stuff ... WITH mouse connected : Windowed interface ?
[07:11] <MooDoo> hmmm interesting though
[07:13] <knightwise> in other words : can i do THIS on my surface https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KNRzdeUaC4
[07:16] <daftykins> that guy needed his morning coffee before recording that ;)
[07:21] <knightwise> agreed , however .. is this what you can do when you download the latest beta ?
[07:23] <daftykins> the key part i get from that vid is he downloaded 'ubuntu next desktop'
[07:23] <daftykins> er Desktop Next rather
[07:26] <DJones> Morning all
[07:26] <daftykins> which sounds like an alternative image to standard desktop, but i'm not the best person to comment at all
[07:26] <daftykins> mornin' \o
[07:26] <DJones> popey: bigcalm: Might find this interesting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32051153
[07:27] <DJones> Jolyon Jenkins presents Minecraft: More Than A Game on BBC Radio 4 at 11:00 BST, 30 March 2015
[08:04] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:05] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:06] <davmor2> MooDoo: me owld mucka did you get the leaving managers job is that why you kept going on about it ?
[08:06] <MooDoo> davmor2: no don't think he's being replaced, sticking with what we have, and kept going on about it as was winding him up calling him a splitter :D
[08:08] <bashrc_> g'day
[08:08] <daftykins> hi
[08:08] <davmor2> MooDoo: hahaha
[08:10] <MooDoo> davmor2: :p
[08:11] <davmor2> MooDoo: I did exactly the same thing to Bacon, I change my person nick for him from Loserboy to Leaverboy not sure which wound him up more ;)
[08:16] <MooDoo> davmor2: cool :D
[08:20] <davmor2> MooDoo: well it Jono there was no way I was gonna be nice was there ;) First he splits LR then he Leaves the Country, then splits SOJ, then he leaves Canonical how long before he quits something else :D  He's just a Leaverboy ;)
[08:36] <MooDoo> davmor2: xsplit lol
[08:42] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Take A Walk In The Park Day! :-D
[08:48] <foobarry> "on linux you are limited to 6 downloading only 6 songs at a time". thanks amazon, its more than the 1 you allowed previoously, ...but why!>?!! UAgent switcher allows them all!
[08:49] <awilkins> Because Linux is Naughty?
[08:49] <awilkins> IT'S NAUGHTY LINUX
[08:49] <awilkins> Linux users are all haxx0rs and pie-rats!
[08:50] <awilkins> http://pierats.com.au/images/pie%20rats%20widescreen.jpg
[08:53] <davmor2> awilkins: why would you want rat pie
[08:53] <davmor2> awilkins: Steak and ale too mainstream for ya
[08:53] <awilkins> Not rat pie... PIE RATS
[08:54] <awilkins> They take pie from the corporations! Arrrr!
[08:54] <awilkins> *squeak*
[08:54] <foobarry> looks like xfce mouse's goofy brother
[08:54] <davmor2> foobarry: Because they assume that Linux User Backup why would they ever need to download again :D
[08:54] <foobarry> it was an mp3 CD
[08:57] <foobarry> mind you, judging by recent us gov stats, linux users are the 1% still
[08:58] <davmor2> JamesTait: Are you insane, walking is exercise, that's bad for you for a start off, outside that's even more dangerous, I mean there a people so bugs, there is there big lightbulb in the sky, there are green thing that attack you...I think they are triffids, not to mention the hay fever it causes, no, no walking in the parks for me ;)
[09:01] <popey> Morning
[09:01] <foobarry> o/
[09:03] <DJones> davmor2: Sorry, you need to up the medication, you're hallucinating, there's no big lightbulb in the sky to worry about, its only the massive bolts of lightening that causes problems
[09:32] <davmor2> DJones: there is here I want to turn it off it's way more than 100Watts
[09:34] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:34] <dutchie> orning
[09:34] <dutchie> morning even
[09:34] <bigcalm> It's not that sunny
[09:34] <dutchie> it's pretty sunny here
[09:35] <davmor2> bigcalm: okay it's clouding over a bit but before I started work it was bright blue and sunny :P
[09:35] <bigcalm> It was sunny this morning on my drive in to Shrewsbury
[09:35] <bigcalm> But it's hazy now I think
[09:36] <davmor2> bigcalm: no it's not hazy that's just sun blindness ;)
[10:20] <knightwise> so .. Is there a possibility to install the "ubuntu-next" desktop on 14.04 ?
[10:23] <popey> unlikely.
[10:34] <awilkins> Ubuntu next ; can you customize the location of the dash button? Not sure why they moved it to bottom left (apart from i) tablets and ii) Windows)
[10:34] <awilkins> (comment based on a YouTube vid from December)
[10:36] <knightwise> popey: can you do it on a 15.04 ?
[10:37] <popey> its top right on desktop, bottom left on phone
[10:37] <popey> top left*
[10:38] <bigcalm> Maybe it being bottom left on the phone means that one has more chance of reaching it with on's thumb (right handed operation)
[10:39] <bigcalm> Lack of Skype and Google Hangout apps are currently stopping me from using the uPhone as my main phone. I'm sure the day will come though :)
[10:46]  * knightwise is confused about the whole ubuntu next thing.
[10:46] <knightwise> So this touch/windowed switching is not something that comes with Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[10:48] <popey> Every release of Ubuntu so far (since a couple of years) has shipped with Unity7 based on Compiz.
[10:48] <popey> The next release, currently on phones, and not ready for production on desktops is Unity8 (not based on Compiz)
[10:48] <popey> 15.04 will ship with Unity7
[10:48] <popey> There is a preview iso containing Unity8 for people to play with.
[10:48] <knightwise> aha
[10:49] <knightwise> and the unity8 is the one that switches you between a touch/fullscreen-windowed interface
[10:49] <popey> yes.
[10:50] <knightwise> so in essence you can try installing unity8 on 15.04 or 14.04 but its not realy ready for primetime
[10:52] <popey> Who said 14.04?
[10:54] <knightwise> me .. :) I'm running 14.04 on my surface pro
[10:54] <knightwise> so i was wondering if I could give unity8 a try
[10:54] <popey> 11:20 < knightwise> so .. Is there a possibility to install the "ubuntu-next" desktop on 14.04 ?
[10:54] <popey> 11:23 < popey> unlikely.
[10:54] <popey> feel free to build it and discover it breaks your setup
[11:01] <knightwise> ok , but if I install 15.04 I could give it a go ?
[11:02] <knightwise> although : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/unity-8-desktop-preview-session-14-04
[11:21] <knightwise> hey zmoylan-pi
[11:22] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[11:23] <zmoylan-pi> saw the laziest rainbow over the weekend.  :-) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBRT225WoAAe92Z.jpg:large
[11:25] <knightwise> Lol :)
[12:45] <foobarry> which museum has stuff about the planets? science or natural history mus?
[12:45] <foobarry> or neither
[12:47] <MooDoo> natural history
[12:47] <MooDoo> http://nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/space/planets-solar-system/index.html
[12:47] <foobarry> i saw this but wondered if they have an exhibit
[12:47] <MooDoo> ah not sure
[12:47] <foobarry> i kind of assumed the science museum would have an iteractive exhibit with big planets and stuff
[12:52] <Sebsebsebb> Hi
[12:53] <zmoylan-pi> they'd take too much space? :-)
[12:53] <zmoylan-pi> jupiter alone...
[12:53] <Sebsebsebb> Popey ping
[12:56] <Myrtti> stupid arduino
[12:56] <popey> Sebsebsebb: pong
[12:57] <Myrtti> yay new email address \o/
[12:58] <Sebsebsebb> Popey how come certain settings change themselves back or don't go into effect on the bq
[13:00] <popey> Such as?
[13:02] <Sebsebsebb> Up checking sending diagnostics gets changed back to sending them after a while, after re booting I think to. What actually gets sent for that anyway saying  that wjhen the browser crashes for example
[13:02] <popey> bug 1437633
[13:02] <popey> known bug
[13:02] <Sebsebsebb> Oh
[13:03] <Sebsebsebb> Well what gets sent anyway?
[13:03] <popey> you can see yourself if you hit the "Previous error reports" button immediately below that
[13:03] <popey> it shows all the error reports your phone has sent
[13:04] <popey> It's what populates http://errors.ubuntu.com/
[13:04] <Sebsebsebb> Yeah but nerd access to see the contents it seems
[13:05] <popey> ah, yes
[13:05] <popey> same kind of data the desktop sends
[13:06] <Sebsebsebb> Which is?
[13:07] <popey> version numbers, packages installed, name of the program that crashed, date/time, cpu type
[13:07] <popey> maybe some other stuff I haven't looked at.
[13:08] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: the things you see in the crash file
[13:08] <Sebsebsebb> Where's the crash file?
[13:08] <popey> in /var/crash
[13:08] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: /var/crash same as on the desktop
[13:08] <Sebsebsebb> On the phone to?
[13:09] <Sebsebsebb> Oh there's a file system somewhere?
[13:09] <Sebsebsebb> File manager I mean
[13:09] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: the store
[13:09] <popey> in the store, yes
[13:09] <popey> or ssh in
[13:09] <popey> or adb shell
[13:10] <popey> or use the terminal
[13:10] <davmor2> or  terminal app
[13:10] <popey> jinx
[13:10] <Sebsebsebb> and var crash will have everything that was sent to errors ubuntu in text files or something?
[13:12] <popey> compressed files
[13:12] <Sebsebsebb> That can be opened with?
[13:13] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: a compressed file if you use terminal app you can use apport-bug to view it
[13:13] <popey> apport-unpack
[13:14] <Sebsebsebb> I didn't seem to come across a terminal app when looking at the store before but I'll look soon
[13:15] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: it gives the same kinda details as the desktop, so Version, app that crashed and stacktrace, iirc
[13:16] <Sebsebsebb> Another one is how I changed things to suspend after 10 minutes, but still switched after one even though then said 10 in settings, and yes the shipped ut version on bq, I'll upgrade soon probably
[13:17] <Sebsebsebb> Switched scree  off avove
[13:18] <Sebsebsebb> What's a stack trace
[13:20] <popey> sorry, rewind..
[13:21] <popey> "how I changed things to suspend after 10 minutes"
[13:21] <popey> what do you mean there?
[13:21] <davmor2> popey: lock screen when idle for x minutes I assume
[13:21] <popey> ah
[13:21] <popey> you should update :)
[13:22] <Sebsebsebb> Yes that
[13:22] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: in which case it sends the screen black after a minute to save on power but the phone isn't locked
[13:23] <Sebsebsebb> yeah but by default turns off sceen and number lock since I did that after like one minute
[13:23] <Sebsebsebb> But
[13:23] <popey> yeah, i have mine set to never lock
[13:24] <Sebsebsebb> I changed the setting to 10 and shows as that, but turns off screen suspends after a minute anyway
[13:25] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: the screen dim will happen after a minute but here I've tried 2 and 3 minute on both it is dim but still active till the time is up let me try 10
[13:25] <Sebsebsebb> And yeah isn't the shipped bq version like two versions behind the latest ubuntu touch version?
[13:27] <popey> well we've pushed out updates since the phones shipped, yes.
[13:27] <popey> another one due later this week or next
[13:28] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: again 10 minutes looks fine so far, screen is dim but active so not loacked
[13:28] <Sebsebsebb> Popey btw what's vivid in the earlier bug report another version of ut I assume maybe the dev even
[13:28] <popey> vivid will become 15.04
[13:29] <Sebsebsebb> Oh the code name for the next one ah yes
[13:38] <foobarry> i have a PAYE coding notice from HMRC
[13:38] <foobarry> it has "gift aid payments" on it which affect my tax code
[13:38] <foobarry> i can't work out whether that figure is the gross figure i have given to chairty or net
[13:38] <foobarry> anyone know?
[13:41] <davmor2> foobarry: you mean you don't know how much you've given to charity :D
[13:48] <foobarry> i do, they don't
[13:48] <foobarry> the figure is way out
[13:48] <foobarry> finally they picked
[13:48] <foobarry> up the phone
[13:49] <foobarry> the anser is yes gross
[13:49] <foobarry> how many times have you heard "i'm sorry i'm just having a few problems with my system"
[13:50] <foobarry> on a phone call to some public service
[13:50] <davmor2> foobarry: don't forget that might just be the amount of tax that was repaid to the charity
[13:50] <davmor2> foobarry: that's what the gift aid does
[13:50] <foobarry> davmor2: i asked her and she said its the gross charitable giving
[13:52] <davmor2> foobarry: yes, so if you gave 10 charities £120 each you would see the gross repayment on that so it would be like 30 or something
[13:53] <foobarry> no, the PAYE form shows the gross amount given to charity in the year
[13:53] <foobarry> give £1000 , you see £1000 on the form
[13:54] <foobarry> no idea where there figures came from
[13:55] <foobarry> would be nice to find out i've overpaid :D
[13:55] <davmor2> foobarry: from the charity donation forms you filled in
[13:56] <foobarry> the bulk goes to one charity, they would claim gift aid
[13:56] <foobarry> so if that was correct, you would see a more accurate figure
[13:56] <foobarry> it may be a figure from an ancient tax return
[13:57] <foobarry> but the figure is so low i don't think so
[13:57] <davmor2> foobarry: so I filled out a form for WHF I pay them £20 month, so they would send those details in and that would be on my tax slip, but don't forget it is only for the taxable year so might not have all the payments you made from january for example
[13:58] <foobarry> yep
[13:59] <foobarry> but lets say hypothetically i give 15% of my salary to save the badgers..every year
[13:59] <foobarry> then you would think somehow the figure might be accurate if they updated it using info corrlated from sources
[13:59] <foobarry> so i'm convinced they don't
[14:00] <foobarry> so badgers.org just tell HMRC, hey we got 5000 in gift air payments, please refuend us
[14:00] <foobarry> then its up to any friends of badgers to tell hmrc since not all will be high tax payers
[14:00] <zmoylan-pi> you're a member of the badger liberation front?! :-)
[14:01] <foobarry> oh, save the badger is real :-|
[14:02] <foobarry> “We must not make badgers scapegoats for bovine TB”. Joanna Lumley
[14:02] <foobarry> beers are on me if this works anyway
[14:03] <zmoylan-pi> all the current evidence is badgers have nothing to do with bovine tb
[14:06] <foobarry> i don't care about badgers much
[14:06] <Sebsebsebb> D
[14:06] <foobarry> except for breezy ones
[14:08] <Sebsebsebb> Davmor2 I installed the terminal app and opened and it asks to enter a password what password
[14:08] <foobarry> long gone are pronouncable code names
[14:09] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: your password, the pin or password you unlock your phone with
[14:09] <Sebsebsebb> I tried ok wrong pin
[14:10] <Sebsebsebb> Ok on it so how to see the log files I re opened this since earlier on a tablet
[14:11] <diddledan> artanoon
[14:12] <zmoylan-pi> artery ok? :-)
[14:12] <Sebsebsebb> Davmor2
[14:12] <popey> Sebsebsebb: what's up?
[14:12] <popey> Sebsebsebb: technically #ubuntu-touch is the support channel for ubuntu on phones :)
[14:13] <Sebsebsebb> Yeah I know
[14:13] <davmor2> Sebsebsebb: apport-bug /var/crash/<bug>  then hit v for view
[14:16] <davmor2> Arthur Daily is that a cockney term for a part-timer?
[14:16] <awilkins> badgers : Have polarized my opinion of Brian May
[14:16] <foobarry> awilkins: its a black/white issue
[14:17] <awilkins> On the one hand, like the politics his "Common Decency" thing is emitting
[14:17] <awilkins> On the other hand, really, badgers?
[14:17] <awilkins> Animal welfare, yes
[14:17] <foobarry> he neesd to get out more
[14:17] <foobarry> but he has half man half badger
[14:17] <awilkins> Do I think animal welfare is incompatible with meat eating? No.
[14:17] <zmoylan-pi> maybe it's the green m&ms for politically concious celebrities?
[14:18] <bashrc_> http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/960/badgers.jpg
[14:18] <awilkins> Happy farm animals suffer less than wild ones, so vegetarianism increases animal suffering, on average, if you have a world with universal farm animal welfare.
[14:19] <bashrc_> should all animals be farm animals?
[14:20] <awilkins> Interesting, isn't it. If you're a vegetarian, presumably you'd be OK with all animals being in an Earth-sized wildlife preserve where the carnivores only hunt cuddly toys and get fed soy burgers
[14:21]  * zmoylan-pi can't wait to see the tuna farms :-P
[14:21] <foobarry> besides teh ethics, meat is tasty
[14:21] <awilkins> And we evolved to eat it just as much as any "natural" carnivore
[14:21] <foobarry> mumsnet is leaking onto my facebook
[14:22] <awilkins> We just developed ways of getting it that don't involve all that stressful (for the prey) hunting and stalking
[14:22] <foobarry> its gone from smacking is bad->timeouts are bad->..what next?
[14:25] <awilkins> WTH?
[14:25] <zmoylan-pi> taking away their iphone is bad?
[14:25] <awilkins> Not obeying their will As Is Their Divine Right is bad?
[14:26] <awilkins> (Think of the children! Worship them and their will be done!"
[14:38] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: no you need to be more evil than that change the wifi password
[14:39] <zmoylan-pi> no no, you can't expect parents to know how to do that. you sell them an automatic power timer to turn the wifi on and off at 5 minute intervals
[14:40] <foobarry> apparently timeouts do permanent damage
[14:40] <foobarry> so does putting your hand in the oven
[14:42] <zmoylan-pi> my oldest sister was terrible at getting up in the morning and would need to be called multiple times.  my father grew tired of this and told her that tomorrow at 8am you will be up. the next day at 801am she was still in bed so he put tea towel in drip tray of freezer, pulled blanket off bed and dropped tea towel on her
[14:42] <zmoylan-pi> she was never called more than once after that
[14:49] <moreati> oh, _that_ kind of timeout. I wondered why mumsnet would be discussing window.setTimeout()
[14:53] <aquarius> popey, bah. I was going to write a twitter bot which every time you used the word archive said "I think you mean 'repository'" and call it "condescendinglinuxperson" or something, but you don't say it often enough :)
[14:54] <popey> hah
[14:54] <aquarius> I agree completely with you, btw. :)
[14:54] <zmoylan-pi> or constipatedlinuxperson everytime someone said suppository instead of repository :-P
[14:55] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: the ubuntu archive suppository
[14:57] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: what about when people say "umbunto" or "ubunut"?
[14:57] <diddledan> umbunto umbunto they drink it in the congpo
[14:57] <zmoylan-pi> too orangey for crows... :-P
[14:57] <diddledan> congo**
[14:58] <diddledan> I hate when people use an O at the end of ubuntu
[14:58] <diddledan> like seriously, how difficult is it?!
[14:59] <zmoylan-pi> well it is a word that is completely unfamiliar to english speakers, kinda like when americans try to pronounce uk place names and get confused.  or like when british folk get caught on irish place names
[15:00] <foobarry> cead mile fait
[15:00] <zmoylan-pi> failté
[15:00] <foobarry> there's no way an english person can work ok the proper pronunciation
[15:12] <diddledan> I'm the only person on my mum's side left to marry, and the remainder of my dad's side are probably going to be wedded-off by the end of the year
[15:12] <diddledan> (my cousin got married on saturday)
[15:14] <elfy> hold out on that :)
[15:18] <foobarry> age?
[15:18] <foobarry> 35?
[15:18] <diddledan> mine or my cousin's?
[15:18] <foobarry> you
[15:18] <diddledan> 32
[15:19] <diddledan> binary
[15:19] <foobarry> i know loads of lovely single women
[15:19] <foobarry> and loads of single men, who should really speak to those women
[15:28] <mapps> got my phone finally
[15:29] <zmoylan-pi> so extra dosh required?
[15:29] <davmor2> mapps: \o/
[15:31] <zmoylan-pi> a life of cats beckons... :-)
[15:32] <mapps> nope nothing
[15:32] <mapps> i just said it was a phone case/cover/sim adapters
[15:32] <mapps> he just gives it to me
[15:32] <mapps> last time when i had a phone case sent here they opened the box lol
[15:33] <mapps> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBWr6IJVEAA3C6N.jpg:large
[15:33] <mapps> just outside apartment
[16:13] <elfy> mapps: nice - sun ...
[16:17] <diddledan> sun would be nice
[16:17] <elfy> it would
[16:17] <elfy> more than a photo though :)
[16:17] <diddledan> aye
[16:18] <Myrtti> sun would be nice for my project
[16:18] <Myrtti> a bit difficult to test a UV sensor when it's so cloudy
[16:20] <Myrtti> I suppose I could finish sewing it now since the hardware and code has been proven to work
[16:22]  * elfy wonders at the connection between sewing 
[16:23] <zmoylan-pi> it's multithreaded :-)
[16:23] <elfy> ha ha ha
[16:24] <Myrtti> elfy: https://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/16328748833/
[16:25] <elfy> ahah
[16:26] <elfy> so zmoylan-pi was right :p
[16:26] <zmoylan-pi> i wonder how the new kids computer will affect the wearable market
[17:03] <davmor2> Myrtti: that is a lot of press-stud for one board
[17:03] <zmoylan-pi> when good boards go bad... :-)
[17:05] <Myrtti> davmor2: I actually ripped all those out and resewed them, some with one hole with conductive thread, some with some thin stranded wire soldered on
[17:05] <Myrtti> and if I had not doubled on some 3.3V and GND, I would have needed a lot more of them
[17:06] <Myrtti> a Piezo needs two connections, Neopixel three and the UV four
[17:07] <Myrtti> I could have combined all ground to one pad but they're actually working in holding the board in place too
[17:09] <davmor2> Myrtti: what you need is a crocheted sunflower with a motor that opens and closes the flower based on the sun level from the uv sensor :)
[17:10] <Myrtti> I try to keep this actually functional and useful :-D
[17:11] <davmor2> Myrtti: it's the equivalent of a barometer only prettier :D
[17:12] <Myrtti> but I've already got a RGB LED that changes colour and blinks the amount of UV that lands
[17:12] <davmor2> hahaha
[17:12] <Myrtti> I was thinking of adding a button so the LED can be used as a flashlight too
[17:13] <davmor2> nice 2 uses in one
[18:09] <mapps> oh god
[18:09] <mapps> someone suggested tennis after spinning
[18:09] <mapps> think id collapse
[18:09] <mapps> ;D
[18:10] <diddledan> spinning?
[18:10] <diddledan> as in whirling yourself around until you fall-over?
[18:11] <intrbiz> cotton spinning
[18:12] <mapps> cycling in a group;p
[18:12] <mapps> inervas and that
[18:36] <mapps> o
[18:36] <mapps> time for more proxypass fun
[19:24] <funkyHat> Spinning is what people do when they want to cycle but are too scared of cars
[19:27] <ali1234> they should do that at wimbledon, then i'd watch it
[19:28] <mapps> pfff
[19:28] <mapps> spinnings for athletes
[19:28] <mapps> ;p
[19:28] <mapps> its hard work
[19:29] <mapps> i only had 5 hours sleep too..had to get up early to collect phone