[12:28] <brousch> http://techweek.com/detroit/
[12:29] <rick_h_> party
[12:35] <_stink_> good morning
[12:45] <cmaloney> Morning and all that. :)
[12:46] <rick_h_> heh
[12:46] <rick_h_> cable guy here yay
[12:46]  * rick_h_ hates that line heh
[12:47] <cmaloney> Which line is that?
[12:47] <cmaloney> The one that goes to your house?
[12:47] <cmaloney> ;)
[12:49] <rick_h_> saying "yay" to the "cable guy"
[12:50] <cmaloney> Well, considering it's a modern miracle whenever they show up I'm sure the "yay" is warranted.
[12:51] <cmaloney> "Yay, something in our dystopian future is working as I expected and someone has made their way to my house to make my Internet better hopefully please God please"
[15:18] <jcastro> brousch, huh, I wonder if that show is any good
[15:24] <cmaloney> jcastro: My "douche" filter didn't go completely off the scale when I read through the speakers.
[17:31] <smoser> cmaloney, did my email to mug get sent to /dev/null ?
[17:31] <smoser> or did I (quite posisbly) just miss a response.
[17:31] <cmaloney> ?
[17:32] <cmaloney> Ack
[17:32] <cmaloney> No, we're cool
[17:32] <cmaloney> I thought I'd left it as such
[17:32] <cmaloney> Everyone is exceptionally pleased you're talking
[17:32] <smoser> oh. ok.
[17:32] <cmaloney> Apologies for leaving you hanging
[17:32] <smoser> thats good then.
[17:32] <smoser> no worries
[17:32] <cmaloney> That's all my fault. :)
[17:41] <jrwren> you talking cloud-init at mug? cloud-init is my favorite thing.
[17:48] <cmaloney> And I'm talking about emulators. :)
[17:48] <jrwren> what is an emulator?
[17:51] <cmaloney> Stuff like Amiga emulators, Atari 800 emulators
[17:51] <cmaloney> Atari ST
[17:51] <cmaloney> old hardware
[17:51] <cmaloney> MAME
[17:51] <cmaloney> that sort of thing.
[17:52] <jrwren> cmaloney: very cool.
[18:00] <brousch> Have any east siders heard of this? Apparently it's in Ann Arbor https://stratoscard.com/
[18:02] <_stink_> huh, neat idea
[18:03] <brousch> Apparently looking for Python devs
[18:05] <cmaloney> Very cool
[18:24] <cscheib> huh, wonder if they're the reason we couldn't trademark the stratos name nationwide
[20:02] <jrwren> why did stratos come up today?
[20:03] <jrwren> brousch: did Henry email you directly?
[20:03] <brousch> Yeah, that's why I brought it up
[20:03] <jrwren> brousch: ha! me too :)
[20:03] <brousch> I like to poke around these things before I reply
[20:04] <jrwren> I've followed Henry on twitter for years. Seems like a solid guy.
[20:04] <brousch> Ha! Well if he thinks I'm a jrwren-caliber developer he's gonna have a bad time ;)
[20:05] <jrwren> brousch: my wife says "You don't want to work for a wine drinker."
[20:05] <jrwren> brousch: you are likely far beyond a jrwren-caliber dev :p
[20:05] <brousch> I still have not written a single test
[20:07] <brousch> Hey, wait, rick_h_ is a wine drinker!
[20:08] <jrwren> brousch: WHAT?!?!?!
[20:08] <jrwren> brousch: lets get on hangouts and write a test together RIGHT NOW
[20:09] <brousch> Well I wrote one with someone else, but not by myself
[20:09] <brousch> It was very interesting
[20:09] <jrwren> brousch: were you driving?
[20:09] <brousch> No
[20:09] <jrwren> brousch: so sad
[20:10] <brousch> I know
[20:10] <brousch> I'm actually rectifying it right now
[20:11] <brousch> I have 2 books to read, then I have 2 existing systems to add tests to
[20:12] <cmaloney> heh
[20:12] <cmaloney> I think jrwren sells himself short.
[20:12] <brousch> Part of it is that I've been working on kivy so long. Kivy apps are hard to test
[20:12] <cmaloney> Pretty sure he's developed three systems before the spoon hits the cereal bowl
[20:28] <jrwren> brousch: since you are adding it to already written code, do you have Michael Feathers book?
[20:38] <brousch> I do not
[20:48] <cscheib> OMG THE SUN IS OUT IN MI
[21:16] <mrgoodcat> is anybody here particularly familiar with meteor.js?
[21:17] <cscheib> I have an acquaintance who thinks it's pretty neat
[21:17] <cscheib> but with the frequency of new js frameworks, it's gotta be annoying to develop in them
[21:37] <jrwren> meteor has been around for at least a couple of years.
[21:37] <jrwren> uses a mongodb backend and does *magic* to let you write only JS and some runs on server via node and other runs in client and everything is magical and beautiful.
[21:40] <cscheib> yup
[21:40] <cscheib> it looks neat.
[22:13] <rick_h_> brousch: :P but he works for Uros, not me. So jrwren is safe
[23:00] <mrgoodcat> i got my problem worked out anways
[23:00] <mrgoodcat> was being dumb
[23:01] <mrgoodcat> the ldapjs library was getting in my way with its bad documentation