[00:00] <miv> dns is working fine
[00:00] <Alissa> then run sudo crontab -e, then add in "@reboot /root/whereveritis.sh"
[00:00] <Alissa> where whereveritis is your filename
[00:00] <jamie_> Alissa: okay just to make sure i hear taht right... place the .sh under the root dir and have it run on boot auto
[00:01] <miv> your network type adsl or a wireless
[00:01] <jamie_> Alissa: to put it in really bland terms
[00:01] <Alissa> jamie_: yeah.
[00:01] <Alissa> miv: wireless
[00:01] <Alissa> I can use telnet and it works fine.
[00:01] <miv> but there is no browser application work
[00:02] <Alissa> Neither chromium nor firefox work.
[00:02] <miv> are you configure /dev/shm a read only?
[00:02] <Alissa> No?
[00:02] <miv> rw
[00:03] <Alissa> rwxrwxrwx for the ls -l
[00:03] <miv> try to run chromium as superuser
[00:04] <Alissa> Forced into not-superuser
[00:04] <miv> check /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chrome-sandbox is a setuid
[00:04] <jamie_> Alissa: okay... so it would be put in that doc as exactaly     @reboot /root/home/jamie/Documents/firefoxupdate.sh    on its own line
[00:05] <Alissa> Firefox can run in superuser but it doesn't connect still.
[00:05] <Alissa> jamie_: As long as that's where your script is.
[00:05] <Alissa> Actually, how often do you want to update firefox?
[00:05] <miv> try sudo firefox --no-remote
[00:05] <jamie_> that is where my script is
[00:05] <jamie_> what are yall trying to do with firefox....
[00:06] <Alissa> Connect.
[00:06] <crepple> Alissa I'm just reading a suggestion to try it with ipv6 disabled
[00:06] <Alissa> And how do I do that?
[00:06] <miv> )
[00:06] <crepple> Network manager Alissa
[00:07] <Alissa> I'm gonna try to restart computer, see what that does.
[00:07] <Alissa> bbiab
[00:07] <miv> try to restart and see what is going on after
[00:08] <miv> i can still help after
[00:10] <jamie_> Alissa: thanks... all works now
[00:11] <ASTAROTH> привет всем рускоязычным
[00:12] <Alissa> miv: Same thing, still.
[00:12] <miv> the same probleme
[00:12] <Alissa> Yeah.
[00:12] <nik_unity> hi
[00:12] <santiago> hola, Me pueden decir que fin tiene este chat de ubuntu?
[00:12] <miv> try to start firefox like this sudo firefox --no-remote
[00:12] <nik_unity> I need some help with some sssl related errors
[00:13] <nik_unity> on apaache2
[00:14] <santiago> hola, Me pueden decir que fin tiene este chat de ubuntu?
[00:15] <miv> i think this probleme with your network configuration
[00:16] <miv> i try to think what is exacttly
[00:17] <miv> please try agaien to access gateway via browser
[00:19] <Alissa> Nope.
[00:19] <miv> nope what exacttly
[00:19] <miv> !
[00:19] <Alissa> It's still in the "Connecting" step
[00:20] <Alissa> aaand it just stopped trying
[00:20] <miv> to access the gateway
[00:20] <miv> can you telnet it via terminal
[00:21] <crepple> Alissa You haven't recently used local proxies viladia (tor) or Jondonym? I'm still searching
[00:21] <Alissa> I can wget and telnet it.
[00:21] <Alissa> crepple: I use a ssh -D proxy for chromium, but none for firefox.
[00:22] <miv> what you want to do now )
[00:22] <crepple> I can find this issue mentioned a lot but none of the posts end with solutions
[00:23] <Alissa> Should I just reinstall Ubuntu?
[00:23] <miv> did you try to add network configuration manualy
[00:23] <miv> noooo
[00:23] <miv> you sould not
[00:23] <Alissa> I have a checklist now of everything I need installed because of how many times I've accidentally broken something important.
[00:23] <miv> ofcourse there is a solve
[00:23] <Alissa> I don't touch the networking things.
[00:24] <miv> always take care to make backup image
[00:24] <iuri> Hi there, How do I php decode "\xe1" to html
[00:24] <iuri> a
[00:24] <iuri> utf8 à
[00:24] <miv> make backup image always
[00:24] <crepple> Alissa I found a second posts with the ipv6 suggestion working http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-installation-39/firefox-won't-connect-fresh-fedora-10-install-704412/
[00:25] <miv> did you try to enter network details manualy
[00:25] <Alissa> No.
[00:25] <Alissa> I'm just going to reinstall.
[00:25] <Alissa> Too many things are broken already and I could use a fresh install
[00:25] <miv> it will take much work to manage and benchmark
[00:25] <miv> try a little
[00:26] <miv> open network-manager
[00:26] <crepple> It seems like it's easy to disable ipv6 in firefox http://www.techairlines.com/disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu-to-speed-up-browsing/
[00:26] <crepple> Can't find the same for Chrome
[00:26] <miv> edit the network and add the local ip +mask+gateway and dns
[00:27] <OerHeks> if it did work, try resetting your router.
[00:27] <miv> if you use the ufw disable ipv6
[00:28] <miv> sudo nano /etc/default/ufw and set ipv6=no
[00:33] <crepple> Alissa I'll have to check back tomorrow and see how you solved it. It's an interesting issue, annoying for you of course :)
[00:36] <thorie> anyone know why i would have dead keys on my macbook in ubuntu? (no dead keys when i reboot to mac os, and no dead keys if i plug in a usb keyboard) ?
[00:36] <thorie> and my dead keys are concentrated to Y, U, I, O, and P
[00:37] <miv> what do you mean about dead keys?
[00:37] <miv> explain please
[00:37] <Guest67651> i'm getting an issue when trying to mount my os x 10.10 partition within ubuntu. any ideas? here's the error message: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/81ff5f9b2551ce5a6a3e
[00:37] <thorie> when i press the key, the key doesn't output the letter
[00:38] <miv> keyboard probleme
[00:38] <miv> right
[00:38] <thorie> if i keep pressing the key over and over and over maybe 10-20 times, eventually it starts to output letters again, but it's very choppy... maybe 50% of keypresses don't appear
[00:38] <thorie> yes
[00:38] <Mike9863> My Asus Zenbook Prime sometimes resumes from suspend mode without me doing anything. I sometimes have to try 5+ times to get it to stay alseep. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[00:38] <miv> notebook
[00:38] <miv> desktop
[00:39] <thorie> yes, it's a macbook pro (notebook)
[00:39] <nothinbutcats> Hi everyone. I feel like I'm going insane. I figured I'd join the fun and start using upstart. I just want to put a service .conf in ~/.config/upstart/ and run the script as _my user_, not as root, and I cannot figure it out. Am I being a moron, or is it not obvious how to do this?
[00:39] <miv> which system you are using please
[00:39] <nothinbutcats> this is on ubuntu 12, by the way.
[00:39] <thorie> Apple MacBook Pro 17" Early 2011 Model, and when I boot to Mac, it's Yosemite Mac OS X
[00:40] <miv> excuse me im never ever used mac before if this a unix os i can offer some help
[00:40] <miv> im sorry
[00:40] <thorie> miv: this is Ubuntu, i have dual-boot on my notebook
[00:40] <miv> ok
[00:40] <miv> )
[00:41] <whomp> i'm getting an issue when trying to mount my os x 10.10 partition within ubuntu. any ideas? here's the error message: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/81ff5f9b2551ce5a6a3e
[00:41] <thorie> miv: when I am in Mac OS, I do not have any keyboard problems... this is only on Ubuntu
[00:41] <miv> did you check delay settings
[00:41] <miv> go to system settings and check keyboard delay
[00:41] <whomp> could it have to do with the fact that my "System Volume Information" folder is corrupted?
[00:42] <whomp> if so, how can i fix it?
[00:42] <thorie> miv: yes, i am using "xset" to customize the keyboard delay settings: xset r rate 160 30
[00:42] <thorie> miv: could this be an issue?
[00:43] <miv> did you try please to check system settings normaly without xset command
[00:43] <thorie> miv: i don't have system settings, since i am running bare OS no "Unity Desktop"
[00:43] <miv> system settings -- keyboard
[00:44] <whomp> any ideas?
[00:44] <thorie> miv: i'm using IceWM as my window manager
[00:44] <miv> ok
[00:44] <miv> so the only ways to use xset from terminal
[00:44] <thorie> yes
[00:45] <miv> im thinkink
[00:45] <miv> im think
[00:46] <whomp> i'm getting an issue when trying to mount my os x 10.10 partition within ubuntu. any ideas? here's the error message: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/81ff5f9b2551ce5a6a3e
[00:46] <nothinbutcats> Anyone familiar with upstart that knows how to make user services?
[00:46] <thorie> is there a laptop keyboard service that i can restart?
[00:46] <miv> i use sometimes xset to configure display never did for keyboards
[00:46] <miv> did you try notebook hotkeys
[00:47] <miv> normaly its windows key plus f-no
[00:47] <miv> f1 and f2 ,etc...
[00:47] <thorie> hmmm
[00:48] <thorie> let me try to reboot again
[00:48] <miv> ok i will be here
[00:49] <miv> im waiting
[00:49] <hkrrsx> Evening, all
[00:49] <miv> evening u
[00:50] <whomp> does anyone have any solution to my problem? i have no idea what to do, and i'm nervous about messing around too much with partitions
[00:52] <whomp> i need to fix this in order to get my os back, because a couple files got messed up by accident when i was making changes
[00:52] <miv> what is your problemes with partions
[00:53] <miv> explain the probleme please
[00:53] <whomp> i'm getting an issue when trying to mount my os x 10.10 partition within ubuntu. any ideas? here's the error message: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/81ff5f9b2551ce5a6a3e
[00:53] <whomp> miv: ^ :)
[00:54] <miv> not open links
[00:54] <miv> do you want to mount partions use man mount
[00:54] <whomp> it's github...
[00:54] <hasan> hi. can anybody tell me what "Bit Rate: 2.36M" means in the output of sox?
[00:54] <hkrrsx> whomp: Sorry if I'm repeating what's already been said/done but have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1660958 ?
[00:54] <hasan> I only know bit depth of 1,2,4,8,16,24 etc.
[00:55] <verdeP> idk what sox is but probably 2.36 Megabits/s
[00:56] <miv> whomp try to recover from live image then chroot
[00:56] <whomp> hkrrsx: one poster says that i can't write to a journalled hfs+ filesystem. i need to access my journalled hfs+ mac partition to replace a few os files
[00:56] <miv> mount then chroot
[00:57] <verdeP> bit rate is your actual data rate like mp3 file 256kbps is the bitrate
[00:58] <hkrrsx> whomp: what are the permissions of that mount point ?
[00:58] <area51pilot> I'm using syndaemon to temp diable synaptic trackpad for a 1/2 sec on a Dell ultrabook to keep pointer from jumping around as I type. It worked for a few days anaptic now has stopped. The daemon shows its running with the settings I set in Startup Apps (syndaemon -i 0.5 -d) but its not disabling it anymore. I've tried combinations of disabling in the system settings in addition to changing the values and flags of the syndaemon
[00:58] <area51pilot> process. Online and man page searche havent revealed anything that's helped. Any useful ideas from anyone experiencing the same issue?
[00:58] <daniel_> I'm in the middle of an ubuntu installation and it's downloading packages... but the ethernet line it's connected to is painfully slow. If I disconnect the line and replace it with a better one, will I screw everything up?
[00:59] <hasan> verdeP: well. I have a flac file here with following stats (according to sox (swiss army of sound processing)): encoding flac, samplerate: 96000Hz, channels 2@24bits. but also "Bit Rate: 2.36M"
[00:59] <hasan> so which is which?
[00:59] <miv> ))
[01:01] <area51pilot> daniel_: it wont hurt, you may just need to run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt get upgrade again if your not quick enough in the switc
[01:01] <hkrrsx> whomp: Also, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus because it directly talks about your issue
[01:01] <verdeP> sample rate is the freq you sample at, you convert analog to digital...taking a data point at that 96kHz, the bit depth is how many gradiations you have to quantify that signal into bits
[01:02] <daniel_> area51pilot, thanks
[01:02] <hasan> verdeP: I know.
[01:02] <kk0710> guys I am having a hell of a time with 14.04 lts on my new laptop.  My wireless keeps cutting out and firefox is giving me a hard time.  I came in before and had a fix by updating the third party stuff needed for the right codex' for firefox and updated the wireless driver but the problems are back.  I am only having the problem with ubuntu and am realllly hoping I don't have to switch back to windows but I am out of ideas here
[01:02] <verdeP> the bit rate is the overall amount of digital data being transmitted
[01:02] <verdeP> so?
[01:02] <hasan> now with these stats I would have: 96000 * 2 (channels) * 24 (bits) = 4608000 or 4.608kpbs
[01:02] <area51pilot> daniel_: no problem I do it on occasion switching from Ethernet to wireless
[01:03] <hasan> what exactly is 2.36M Bit Rate then?
[01:04] <whomp> hkrrsx: that looks great except that i can't access the mac os itself
[01:05] <hkrrsx> whomp: is the drive physically installed in your Ubuntu machine or in a Mac machine?
[01:05] <whomp> so i can't turn off journalling
[01:05] <verdeP> hasan: i agree that seems stupidly high
[01:06] <whomp> hkrrsx: i'm not sure i understand, but this is a macbook pro with an os x partition, and then i'm running ubuntu on a flash drive, which it's currently booted to
[01:06] <miv> kk0710
[01:07] <miv> kk0710 remove avahi-daemon and avahi-autoipd and see the probleme still
[01:08] <kk0710> miv, sorry i dced while you were responding
[01:08] <hkrrsx> whomp: stupid question but do you have hfsutils installed ?
[01:08] <miv> )
[01:08] <whomp> hkrrsx: i have hfsutils and hfsplus installed, but it couldn't find hfsprogs
[01:09] <whomp> i tried `sudo apt-get update`, still no dice with finding hfsprogs
[01:09] <hkrrsx> whomp: how about ' sudo aptitude search hfsprogs ' ? Does it find anything there ?
[01:10] <Flannel> hkrrsx, whomp: it's hfsutils, not hfsprogs.
[01:10] <Flannel> hkrrsx: hfsprogs doesn't exist in the repositories.
[01:10] <QwE> hi
[01:10] <QwE> anyone?
[01:11] <miv> )
[01:11] <whomp> hkrrsx: ok well i have hfsutils at least
[01:11] <miv> many
[01:11] <QwE> :)
[01:11] <QwE> i'm from Chile, SouthAMerica
[01:11] <miv> ' '
[01:12] <miv> welcome
[01:12] <QwE> thanks
[01:12] <hkrrsx> whomp: Flannel: interesting b/c I found it ... http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/hfsprogs
[01:12] <QwE> any from SouthAmerica or Spain?
[01:13] <Flannel> hkrrsx: Oh, interesting.  I just looked for it on p.u.c and didn't see it.  I must've fat fingered something.
[01:13] <Flannel> hkrrsx: carry on then :)
[01:13] <hkrrsx> Flannel: thanks for double checking
[01:14] <hkrrsx> whomp: see about downloading hfsprogs from the site and see if that makes a difference
[01:15] <miv> if you have some data is important for you try to recover it
[01:16] <whomp> hkrrsx: ok, done
[01:17] <hkrrsx> whomp: do you have the drive set to auto-mount or are you doing so manually ?
[01:17] <whomp> hkrrsx: not sure
[01:17] <hkrrsx> whomp: either way, reboot and then try re-mounting the drive afterwards
[01:17] <whomp> i just click on it in the graphical file browser
[01:17] <whomp> hkrrsx: i can't :) i'm booted to a flash drive
[01:18] <hkrrsx> whomp: you can't restart Ubuntu b/c its on a flash drive?
[01:18] <whomp> hkrrsx: i can, but i would lose all of my changes
[01:18] <whomp> right?
[01:18] <whomp> haven't done this in a while
[01:19] <hkrrsx> whomp: if your flash drive is basically a Ubuntu live CD, then yeah you'd lose your settings
[01:19] <whomp> hkrrsx: yeah that's what it is
[01:19] <hkrrsx> Ok, what happens when you double click on that drive now that hfsprogs is installed ?
[01:20] <whomp> hkrrsx: same thing
[01:20] <hasan> verdeP: I did some calculations: if this FLAC file is really at 96000@24 stereo. this would be 4608000 (or 4,60Mbps). still not 2.36M :/
[01:21] <hkrrsx> whomp: any particular reason that you're not accessing the drive via the Mac OS instead of a Ubuntu live environment ?
[01:21] <whomp> hkrrsx: because there are some missing folders like bin on my mac os
[01:21] <whomp> so i need to access the file system to get new copies in there
[01:21] <hkrrsx> touche
[01:21] <verdeP> hasan: compression?
[01:21] <hasan> MPEG audio
[01:22] <verdeP> also bit rate is often given as an average
[01:22] <hasan> oh sry
[01:22] <hasan> encoding: FLAC
[01:22] <hkrrsx> whomp: someone on another askubuntu.com site suggests running the Disk Repair from the Mac OS Disk Utility application
[01:22] <hkrrsx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/423981/cant-mount-hfs-drive-bad-superblock
[01:23] <kk0710> miv, it didn't work, I got a few mintues worth of uninterrupted service, was able to ping, browse, and dl through transmission but after a few everything dropped to 0 and I had to reset adapter
[01:23] <whomp> hkrrsx: yeah i figured. ah well, thanks anyways :)
[01:23] <kk0710> miv, I also restarted after removing those two packages,
[01:23] <miv> mm
[01:23] <hkrrsx> whomp: sorry i couldn't help ...
[01:24] <verdeP> yeah so youre showing about 1/2 the bitrate in flac ? from raw?
[01:24] <miv> do you configure iptables
[01:24] <daftykins> hasan: FLAC compresses to 60% original on average.
[01:24] <verdeP> which sounds about right
[01:24] <miv> and did you make bad sysctl.conf
[01:24] <hasan> daftykins: could this explain the bit rate change?
[01:24] <whomp> hkrrsx: no worries
[01:24] <daftykins> hasan: yes bitrate will change when compression occurs.
[01:24] <hasan> alright. so this makes sense then
[01:24] <daftykins> now, i'm sorry but this topic is not Ubuntu support :)
[01:24] <hasan> thank you very much folks.
[01:25] <MKLSNK> hmmmm
[01:25] <kk0710> i've done none of that, this is the first time I have had a problem with anything after a fresh install.  Since I had this laptop I was having problems with firefox plugin conf locking up so dude had me install 3rd party stuff(I clicked no during install) then install a new driver for the wirless for the dc problems.  Everything was fine for a few days but it has come back with a vengeance
[01:26] <miv> DO YOU USER USB WIRELESS ADAPTER
[01:26] <miv> USE
[01:27] <daftykins> i'm not sure caps are necessary :P
[01:27] <adammm> daftykins maybe miv has a BROKEN KEYBOARD
[01:27] <miv> KK0710 DO YOU USE ANY POWER MANAGEMENT TOOLS?
[01:28] <bazhang> miv no caps please
[01:28] <daftykins> adammm: silly statement
[01:28] <miv> check if you are in usb autosuspend mode
[01:28] <Warfront1> I'm having issues starting x
[01:29] <Warfront1> xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (no such file or directory)
[01:29] <daftykins> Warfront1: what ubuntu is this? why do you need to start it manually? what are you running?
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | Warfront1
[01:29] <daftykins> (note 'startx' is a bad idea)
[01:29] <Warfront1> 14.04
[01:29] <Warfront1> server
[01:30] <kk0710> no built in wifi
[01:30] <kk0710> sigh had to reset again
[01:30] <kk0710> I am about to give up and go back to windows, I hate to say it but no one can seem to figure this out
[01:30] <miv> )
[01:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Warfront1 - (You may wish to try #ubuntu-server first)
[01:30] <miv> do you use usb wireless adapter?
[01:30] <daftykins> Warfront1: so, how did you install X? :)
[01:30] <cm> Why do you want X on a server?
[01:31] <Warfront1> sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <Warfront1> sudo apt-get install LXDE
[01:31] <Warfront1> sudo apt-get install xinit
[01:31] <daftykins> Warfront1: and is this a VPS?
[01:31] <Warfront1> yes
[01:31] <daftykins> it is? ok you're on your own
[01:31] <daftykins> GUIs don't belong on VPSs :>
[01:31] <SonikkuAmerica> cm - for the same reason you're not km? I dunno :)
[01:32] <Warfront1> I don't care for any security concerns
[01:32] <kk0710> I do not use any power management tools
[01:32] <kk0710> I am a novice user, I tend to just install whatever the most current LTS is from scratch and call it good
[01:32] <Warfront1> infact I plan on this vps getting hacked
[01:32]  * daftykins chuckles
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Warfront1 - wat
[01:32] <kk0710> I do not use a wireless a dapter
[01:32] <kk0710> this is a laptop
[01:32] <kk0710> brand new hp
[01:32] <miv> so you are in adsl
[01:33] <kk0710> "novice", no clue what you are getting at.
[01:33] <miv> !?
[01:34] <Warfront1> so does anyone have any ideas?
[01:34] <Warfront1> I really don't care what ui i use
[01:34] <daftykins> well you didn't tell us how you're attempting to start X
[01:34] <Warfront1> sudo startx
[01:34] <Warfront1> from root
[01:34] <hkrrsx> Warfront1: how do you feel about using a web-based system administration tool like Webmin ?
[01:35] <daftykins> ok well using root = silly and using startx is bad
[01:35] <hkrrsx> Works like a low fat GUI
[01:35] <daftykins> as in won't work bad
[01:35] <hkrrsx> http://www.webmin.com/demo.html
[01:35] <Warfront1> I get the same issue when attempting to start from another account
[01:35] <kk0710> does anyone have any idea why I am having such a hard time with my network?
[01:35] <daftykins> that's not the point, i'm saying startx is not what to run :)
[01:36] <OerHeks> webmin, there are issues with that, on ubuntu, hkrrsx
[01:36] <daftykins> "sudo service lightdm start" is the standard, *but* i don't know if lubuntu uses it
[01:36] <OerHeks> !webmin
[01:36] <daftykins> !webmin
[01:36] <miv> kk0710 if you feel the unix os is not for you ,you can switch back to what os you prefere
[01:36] <hkrrsx> OerHeks: thanks
[01:36] <daftykins> OerHeks: y'beat me :D
[01:36] <JinjaNinja> hello
[01:36] <zerovertex> Warfront1: install xvfb and xauth. forward any GUI applications over SSH to your local xserver or use Xming for Windows and Putty. No xserver needed on the VPS.
[01:37] <Warfront1> I orginally had this running on windows server but I wanted to downgrade to a linux box to save some money
[01:37] <JinjaNinja> Does anyone on this channel have experience with penetration testing?
[01:37] <daftykins> JinjaNinja: not really on topic.
[01:37] <kk0710> ugh dc'ed again
[01:38] <daftykins> Warfront1: that's not a downgrade.
[01:38] <Warfront1> @zerovertex the point of the server is to do things within a ui environment
[01:38] <kk0710> I captured the sys log from the last reset until this one though
[01:38] <JinjaNinja> Excuse me, I'm seeking help in a chat room.
[01:38] <kk0710> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10704672/
[01:38] <daftykins> servers do not belong with a GUI :)
[01:38] <Warfront1> The weird thing is I have a vm of the exact same setup working
[01:38] <Warfront1> on my local test bed machine
[01:39] <daftykins> JinjaNinja: the channel is Ubuntu OS support, if you can phrase a support question that'd be the way to start.
[01:39] <zerovertex> Warfront1: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop... on top of your Ubuntu server?
[01:39] <cm> Ninja I do penetration testing with my girlfriends. Not sure if that helps.
[01:39] <Warfront1> I tried lubuntu , xde, and ubuntu-desktop @zerovertex
[01:39] <danemacmillan> Hi--I just installed ubuntu for the first time and I had to hard reboot my computer three times before it finally loaded--and now I did a software update--and it appears to be just hanging.
[01:40] <danemacmillan> It asked if I wanted to restart for the updates--and I clicked yes
[01:40] <JinjaNinja> daftykins: So sorry to get you butthurt that I'm not exactly 'on topic'. Lmao.
[01:40] <miv> )
[01:40] <danemacmillan> Now it's just chilling on the ubuntu logo. Is this normal?
[01:40] <daftykins> JinjaNinja: there's no need to take my messages like a personal attack :) calm down and phrase a question otherwise please take your rudeness elsewhere
[01:40] <cm> danemacmillan what graphics cad is in that machine
[01:40] <danemacmillan> No CPU activity, or hdd activity
[01:40] <cm> card
[01:41] <danemacmillan> cm: Not sure--some ATI sticker on the computer, though
[01:41] <zerovertex> Warfront1: You have a swap partition on your VPS? I've seen some without that don't like running xserver/gui applications.
[01:41] <JinjaNinja> daftykins: Don't mind if I will. I've never dealt with such rudeness before on this channel myself. :)
[01:42] <cm> ok had issue with machines with Nvidia graphics all week after an update.
[01:42] <Warfront1> @zerovertex not sure
[01:42] <danemacmillan> I just hard rebooted computer--and now it's not loading ubuntu--probbaly have to do it two more times to get it up
[01:43] <daftykins> !nomodeset | danemacmillan use this
[01:43] <cm> Had to work around the problem using latest stable proprietary driver.
[01:43] <kk0710> Guys I am having multiple problems with my new laptop and 14.04 lts.  The network has always been dodgy and any browser I would use would eat up resources.  A guy the other night had me install 3rd party stuff which seemd to fix the browser issue then had me install a new driver for my wireless adapterk everything worked for a couple of days but now all my problems are back with a vengeance and I am constantly getting disconnected.  Here is
[01:43] <kk0710>  the sys log from one disconnect to the next   http://paste.ubuntu.com/10704672/
[01:43] <cm> nomodeset will get the install done too...good luck after that
[01:44] <danemacmillan> daftykins: Thanks I'll check this out
[01:46] <shalker> hey anyone there
[01:46] <shalker> #ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <daftykins> shalker: yes in the largest channel on freenode there are indeed active people
[01:46] <daftykins> :)
[01:47] <SonikkuAmerica> But the largest channel is #archlinux :(
[01:48] <ObrienDave> heaven forbid ;P
[01:48] <Gnea> it's true
[01:49] <shalker> My bad.. was just checking...
[01:51] <daftykins> shalker: support queries only in future
[01:51] <kk0710> Guys I am having multiple problems with my new laptop and 14.04 lts.  The network has always been dodgy and any browser I would use would eat up resources.  A guy the other night had me install 3rd party stuff which seemd to fix the browser issue then had me install a new driver for my wireless adapterk everything worked for a couple of days but now all my problems are back with a vengeance and I am constantly getting disconnected.  Here is
[01:51] <kk0710>  the sys log from one disconnect to the next   http://paste.ubuntu.com/10704672/
[01:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | shalker, head over here
[01:51] <daftykins> kk0710: one part of the log said the AP wasn't there, sounds like some configuration could be at least down to your router / AP. what channel is it using?
[01:51] <bazhang> what 3rd party stuff and from where kk0710
[01:52] <kk0710> daftykins, forgive me for being obtuse, are you asking me what channel is my router broadcasting on?
[01:52] <daftykins> correct
[01:52] <daftykins> typically a number from 1-11, depending on whereabouts in the world you are
[01:54] <kk0710> bazhang, I didnt check install third party software during install, it was for the codex' and what not, it quazi fixed my flash player problems
[01:54] <kk0710> daftykins, sorry I dc'd again I will check.  Though I am curious as to why it would only matter on my linux machine?
[01:54] <bazhang> kk0710, something other than ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[01:55] <kk0710> bazhang, I don't believe so
[01:55] <kk0710> bazhang, but this problem existed before that moment so that is not the problem, in fact it had appeared it had fixed the problem at least for a while
[01:56] <kk0710> daftykins, bare with me here I'm having problems finding the channel I am broadcasting on
[01:57] <daftykins> no worries, feel free to give me the executive summary
[01:57] <kk0710> god damn it, its like the more I try to fix it the more often I dc
[01:57] <kk0710> let's try this again
[01:58] <daftykins> is your router dual-band?
[01:58] <kk0710> man I am so rusty, I think so.  20 or 40MHz means dual band right?
[01:59] <cm> change to channel 13
[01:59] <kk0710> those are the only settings pertaining to channels that I am finding under wireless
[01:59] <kk0710> this is a linksys wrt120n
[01:59] <daftykins> no 2.4GHz and 5GHz are the two bands of dual band
[01:59] <kk0710> mind you I have several other devices on my network and only my ubuntu laptop is the problem
[01:59] <daftykins> cm: you can't just throw that out there without knowing where someone is in the world.
[02:00] <daftykins> kk0710: also what wireless adapter is this?
[02:00] <kk0710> daftykins, don't worry I tend not to listen to such things, I don't do anything Unless I trust the person or understand the request lol
[02:00] <daftykins> heh good stuff
[02:00] <kk0710> 08:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[02:01] <shalker> #freenode
[02:01] <bazhang>  /join
[02:01] <cm> Ok where in the world are you?
[02:01] <daftykins> hrmm realtek
[02:01] <Warfront1> omfg
[02:01] <Warfront1> i love it
[02:01] <Warfront1> i love it
[02:01] <kk0710> daftykins, this was working for serveral days no problem then just went back to before,
[02:01] <Warfront1> sudo apt-get install xrdp
[02:01] <Warfront1> saved me life
[02:02] <Warfront1> xde is working with that
[02:04] <cm> It says he is in NY...Change to channel 13 :)
[02:04] <daftykins> no. no. no.
[02:04] <kk0710> cm if you are going to give advice read what the person in need is saying
[02:04] <cm> PBS in NY :)
[02:04] <daftykins> cm: stop, please.
[02:04] <kk0710> I don't even see an option to change the channel and once again, ONLY on this laptop am I having the problem and only when ubuntu is running
[02:05] <cm> The option is on the router.
[02:05] <kk0710> wow
[02:05] <daftykins> yeah lets just ignore this guy.
[02:05] <kk0710> daftykins, no worries I am :)
[02:06] <daftykins> kk0710: mmm, sometimes drivers for bad adapters work better by disabling the 5GHz portion... other times it's better to just factory reset a router and use a standard channel like 1, 6 and 11 on the 2.4GHz side for testing (depending on what your neighbours are using)
[02:07] <kk0710> ugh I am about to give up i cant stay on long enough to do anything, either plugin conf locks up my browser or I lose my connection
[02:08] <cm> Ignore is ok. :( When your done with all that please try 13. If you feel the need to thank me later.  Don't worry it's ok.
[02:08] <daftykins> kk0710: use a wired connection whilst resolving?
[02:08] <kk0710> id use windows before I went through that hassle
[02:09] <daftykins> cm: clearly you're the attention seeking kind, however what you're saying is 100% wrong :) sorry but you don't know what you're talking about
[02:09] <kk0710> daftykins, it's quite alright I can tell he clearly doesn't
[02:09] <daftykins> i'm afraid i'm the type to like to make it known :>
[02:09] <cm> Its true I don't but give it a shot anyway just fo amusement
[02:10] <kk0710> daftykins, again thouh i see NO options on my router to change the channel
[02:10] <daftykins> cm: no, and you don't belong here just throwing guesses around
[02:10] <daftykins> kk0710: ah well. if you like the laptop maybe consider swapping out the card
[02:11] <kk0710> no way
[02:11] <kk0710> like I said this was working fine for days
[02:11] <kk0710> something else is the
[02:11] <kk0710> at this pint I think ubuntu has lost me
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> At this quart Ubuntu shall get me back.
[02:11] <daftykins> *shrug*
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> (Sorry, had to.)
[02:12] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: that was terrible
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> (I know, I know. Back to support.)
[02:12] <kk0710> the problem goes beyond the adapter, as any browser I use tends to max out cpu usage and lock me up too
[02:12] <cm> Wo said channel 13 was a guess :(
[02:12] <cm> who
[02:13] <kk0710> ok daftykins I think I found the channel option it is currently set to auto
[02:13] <kk0710> and as I assume you already were aware of channel 13 isn't even an option lol
[02:14] <cm> wait are you going to implement my on't know wht I am talkign about option?
[02:14] <kk0710> cm you DON"T know what you are talking abou tas there is no channel 13, just stop responding to me.
[02:14] <kk0710> daftykins, to be able to change the channel I have to turn off auto channel width and pick either 20MHz or 40Mhz?
[02:14]  * SonikkuAmerica shrinks cm to mm
[02:14] <cm> Just pick another channel is the point mn
[02:14] <cm> man
[02:15] <BlackDalek> if I want to delete all files recursively in a folder which are less than a specified file size, is there an option I can use in the rm command?
[02:16] <daftykins> BlackDalek: it'd be better to use a combination of 'find' and -exec
[02:16] <wiak> i prefer nm
[02:16] <wiak> :D
[02:17] <kk0710> daftykins,  you think 20Mhz channel 6 is a good place to start?
[02:17] <daftykins> kk0710: just fiddle.
[02:17] <daftykins> likely the realtek driver is just pants though i'd reckon
[02:17] <kk0710> ahh good ol linux and just fiddle
[02:17] <daftykins> look into disabling 5GHz on it if you get nowhere
[02:17] <kk0710> I had realtek drivers before
[02:17] <kk0710> 5ghz doesn't appear to be an option
[02:18] <kk0710> all channels are in the 2.4 range
[02:18] <daftykins> well it's a realtek device so just whichever driver is in use is what i mean really
[02:18] <daftykins> yeah but your device speaks otherwise
[02:18] <penalvch> I'm trying to get x11vnc work via systemd. However, every time I attempt a connection with Remmina, I get "Authentication failed". However, if I run the exact same x11vnc command in the service file at a terminal, Remmina successfully connects. Configuration information -> http://pastebin.com/UfswCG6g Anyone got an idea WTF is preventing a successful connection?
[02:18] <kk0710> well I updated the driver from an ubuntu page I found and it worked for days then just stopped
[02:18] <daftykins> kk0710: see lines 43-48 in your log from earlier
[02:19] <BlackDalek> daftykins could you help me with syntax of using find and -exec to delete files less than certain size?
[02:19] <daftykins> kk0710: maybe you installed a kernel update and have to run through that guide again
[02:19] <kk0710> unfortunately I closed the paste.ubuntu so I don't have it
[02:19] <bazhang> kk0710, have you tried installing 'linux-firmware'
[02:19] <daftykins> BlackDalek: nah i'm too new with it myself and am about to watch a film.
[02:19] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10704672/
[02:19] <kk0710> daftykins, that is what I was wondering, did I perhaps overwrite the driver with an update?
[02:19] <daftykins> BlackDalek: #bash will probably help you
[02:19] <BlackDalek> daftykins ok. no worries
[02:20] <kk0710> yah I have no idea what I am reading on that log hence why I wanted people who did to read it lol
[02:20] <kk0710> bazhang, I do not believe so
[02:20] <bazhang>  File rtl8188 found in linux-firmware
[02:20] <che2> channel #bitcoin
[02:21] <kk0710> bazhang, sudo apt-get linux-firmware?
[02:21] <daftykins> kk0710: lines 43 to 48 are pretty self explanatory to me. 47 and 48 refer to two channels in the 5GHz range, thus the driver probably supports them
[02:21] <bazhang> with install
[02:21] <che2> has anyone here taken the linux course on edx?
[02:21] <daftykins> che2: no ty
[02:21] <kk0710> daftykins, sorry I meant the router doesn't
[02:21] <daftykins> che2: yes
[02:21] <kk0710> bazhang, it can't be THAT simple can it!?
[02:21] <daftykins> haha, sure can
[02:21] <bazhang> kk0710, try it and see
[02:21] <che2> daftykins: you've taken the linux course?
[02:22] <daftykins> che2: yes.
[02:22] <daftykins> if you're referring to LFS101x i audited version 1
[02:22] <kk0710> bazhang, it says linux firmware is already newest version
[02:22] <kk0710> karl@Seraph:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[02:22] <kk0710> Reading package lists... Done
[02:22] <kk0710> Building dependency tree
[02:22] <kk0710> Reading state information... Done
[02:22] <kk0710> linux-firmware is already the newest version.
[02:22] <kk0710> linux-firmware set to manually installed.
[02:22] <che2> daftykins: how did you feel about it, i'm about 1/3 of the way through right now, do you think it'll give me a pretty solid footing in linux? I'm mainly trying to learn so I can use it as my dev environment and host my own web applications etc.
[02:23] <che2> daftykins: yes that's what i'm referring to
[02:23] <daftykins> che2: it will if you experiment with and explore every command and take notes so that you can use it in future.
[02:23] <bazhang> che2 #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:23] <daftykins> it's a good start yes
[02:23] <che2> bazhang: my bad new to irc
[02:24] <kk0710> bazhang, any other ideas?
[02:24] <kk0710> daftykins, I changed it to 20Mhz and channel six any other suggestions?
[02:25] <daftykins> nah about to be film time for me i'm afraid
[02:25] <root_____> hi,everyone. anybody know how to use variables in pure-ftpd welcome messages?
[02:25] <daftykins> root_____: IRC as root = not wise
[02:26] <Jung_Min> no tftpd use just bootloader to me
[02:26] <kk0710> daftykins, thanks for trying, sorry if I came off irritable but I have been dealing with this for a while and it is highly annoying
[02:26] <kk0710> and I really don't want to have to go back to using windows full time.
[02:26] <daftykins> no problem. Linux certified wireless models are always best when you can
[02:27] <daftykins> you can still totally swap that card
[02:27] <kk0710> id rather not have to spend MORE money on a laptop I just bought but also the card isn't the route of my other problem
[02:27] <kk0710> no matter what browser I use, firefox, chrome etc, it will arbitrarily max out cpu usage
[02:27] <kk0710> I am constantly having to do a top and kill *
[02:28] <root_____> exit
[02:28] <daftykins> sounds like a wonky install to me
[02:28] <penalvch> kk0710, I'm coming in a little late to your problem. Have you filed a bug report on Launchpad about the WiFi issue?
[02:28] <cm> If it's an current model HP laptop he can't swap that card. Sorry to interject. I know I don't know what i m talking about but
[02:29] <kk0710> penalvch, no I have not but mostly because the problem had been solved after I updated the driver
[02:29] <kk0710> it only came back the other day
[02:29] <excelsiora> so I just downloaded the bash source with apt-get source bash, where can I read it now?
[02:30] <penalvch> kk0710, please file a new report via a terminal, subscribe me to it, and we can take it from there: ubuntu-bug linux
[02:31] <kk0710> penalvch, I am being obtuse again... I do not know how to do that
[02:31] <penalvch> kk0710, you don't know how to open a terminal:
[02:32] <kk0710> penalvch, no I don't know how to a repor or subscribe you to it
[02:32] <penalvch> kk0710, the previous command I posted will create the report: ubuntu-bug linux
[02:32] <kk0710> nvm I see you gave he command, again I am obtuse sometimes :)
[02:32] <kk0710> I got an error trying to do it saying I need to specifiy a package or a pid lol
[02:34] <kk0710> I'm batting a thousand here
[02:35] <BlackDalek> if I want to delete all files recursively in a folder which are less than a specified file size, what is best way to achieve this from the command line?
[02:36] <penalvch> kk0710, just to clarify, you typed verbatim: ubuntu-bug linux
[02:39] <gshmu> I miss my time at Ubuntu 14.04 amd64. https://clbin.com/iDr1IM.png
[02:40] <tropico> does anyone know if there is a difference between ubuntu 14.04 server edition vs 14.04 desktop edition, other than the packages that come included on the CDs?
[02:40] <mysupper> hello
[02:41] <Opinie> hi
[02:41] <Zach443> tropico, well for one the server edition is a server, and the desktop edition is meant to be used on your PC
[02:41] <tropico> Zach443: right, but what are the actual differences? they have the same repo, etc
[02:41] <kk0710> penalvch, sorry I dc'ed again and this time I had to reboot to connect
[02:41] <Zach443> Server version is command line only I believe
[02:42] <tropico> i'm creating a VM image for a class I am TAing and i am trying to cut down on image size, looking to create a minimal image and it looks like server edition might be best
[02:42] <tropico> i just need to know if there are any differences between the two other than the installation CDs which obviously come with a different default set of packages
[02:42] <Zach443> I think that might depend on what you actually need to do
[02:43] <Zach443> If you need to use it as  PC, get the desktop edition
[02:43] <tropico> default desktop install is quite bloated, VM image comes to 1.4 GBish
[02:44] <tropico> was hoping to distribute an image < 500 MB. i know it's possible
[02:44] <JinjaNinja> Does anyone know how to change network interface without messing with ifconfig?
[02:45] <Bashing-om> tropico: a 3rd option: the minimal install ..https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD .
[02:45] <JinjaNinja> I was hoping for a simple GUI or user interface that has a simple network interface changer
[02:46] <JinjaNinja> I do penetration testing, and I need to change from my computers built-in interface to my USB External internet card
[02:46] <tropico> Bashing-om: thx. couldn't find this in the main downloads directory though... (http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.2/)
[02:47] <kk0710> ok so penalvch wanted me to subscribe him to this bug and I have no idea how to do that
[02:48] <kk0710> penalvch
[02:50] <kk0710> oh well I see how to subscribe him but there is no option for him
[03:01] <kk0710> well changing the channel only ade things worst
[03:07] <tapout> i'm running ubuntu under vmware, and i've setup multiple monitors but it doesn't detect them.  Anyone ever successfully had 2 dual monitors under vmware running with ubuntu?
[03:11] <excelsiora> so I just downloaded the bash source with apt-get source bash, where can I read it now?
[03:12] <excelsiora> hey, looks like it's in my user area now!
[03:12] <excelsiora> cool
[03:13] <myraft> Hi,
[03:14] <myraft> Having serious problems since upgrade grub rescue?
[03:14] <myraft> don't have a way forward -
[03:14] <myraft> any help would be appreciated
[03:14] <excelsiora> sounds scary
[03:15] <excelsiora> no experience myself
[03:15] <myraft> @excelsiora - yeah really stuck
[03:15] <benjamin__> hi
[03:15] <myraft> and further messed up flipping the boot order, so can't get BIOS to boot from USB.
[03:16] <benjamin__> i have lubuntu 14.10
[03:16] <benjamin__> try to reset your bootloder to default
[03:16] <myraft> anyone with ideas on "grub rescue>" ?
[03:17] <myraft> @benjamin_ that is what I tried and now it is booting from HDD and all I get is "grub rescue"
[03:17] <benjamin__> may be that well fix it, i did for me.
[03:18] <excelsiora> I am 1,150 ish reputation points away from being in the top 2% on StackOverflow! Woot!
[03:18] <SchrodingersScat> !ot
[03:18] <benjamin__> Grub rescue, huh?
[03:18] <myraft> @benjamin_ : only prompt I get is "grub rescue".
[03:18] <benjamin__> Hm.
[03:19] <benjamin__> Well.. there is a option to load from the USB (if you're using that)
[03:19] <myraft> I have tried the set root = , insmod command
[03:19] <benjamin__> What distro are you using?
[03:19] <myraft> ubuntu 14.0.4.2
[03:20] <benjamin__> 14.04. Do you have a secondary computer?
[03:20] <myraft> yeah, that is what I am now.
[03:20] <benjamin__> ah.
[03:20] <benjamin__> So, you might want to go to 14.190
[03:20] <benjamin__> *10
[03:20] <myraft> HELP ME !
[03:21] <benjamin__> ok, using your secondary computer, download 14.04.2 again, during installation, it'll ask you if you want to reinstall
[03:22] <myraft> the issue is, I can't get it boot from anything other than HDD - no USB, no CD
[03:22] <benjamin__> HDD....hm...
[03:22] <benjamin__> What computer are you using?
[03:23] <myraft> this is really weird, was able to change the boot order in the bios
[03:24] <myraft> I am at the USB first prompt.
[03:24] <benjamin__> Hm, then you should be able to go manually into the BIOS
[03:24] <myraft> yeah - after changing that to USB, I am able to get options that say "try ...", "install  ..."
[03:24] <benjamin__> Okay, now what you want to do (If you still have the .iso on the USB) to reninstall
[03:24] <benjamin__> Click on install
[03:25] <myraft> please don't angry, I did that three times for the weekend.
[03:25] <benjamin__> Oh...
[03:25] <myraft> i will be glad to do it again, if there is alternate path to choose.
[03:25] <benjamin__> There is. I'm not angry
[03:26] <benjamin__> There should be a reinstall button
[03:26] <benjamin__> It's the very first or third option
[03:26] <myraft> it does grub version 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu
[03:26] <benjamin__> Then click that reinstall
[03:27] <myraft> here are the options , "try ubuntu without installing", "install ubuntu", "OEM install (for manufacturers)", "check disk for defects".
[03:27] <benjamin__> Install Ubuntu
[03:27] <myraft> firing away,
[03:27] <benjamin__> Or check disk for defects
[03:28] <myraft> I just want to get the minimal done for tonite, so should I skip "updates" and "third parties" ?
[03:28] <benjamin__> Yeh, you might wanna do that
[03:28] <benjamin__> or if you don't, just tell it to install third-party applications
[03:29] <myraft> I am the installation type
[03:29] <myraft> what do I do ?
[03:29] <benjamin__> Alright, now what you want to do is reinstall
[03:29] <myraft> install ubuntu alongside , erase disk .., something else ?
[03:29] <benjamin__> It's the first option
[03:29] <myraft> ok, which is the reinstall option .?
[03:29] <myraft> install ubuntu alongside ?
[03:30] <benjamin__> It's the third then
[03:30] <rebecca> hello fellas
[03:30] <benjamin__> 'Ello
[03:30] <zivester> is there a development channel?  looking to ask about packaging for ubuntu
[03:30] <somsip> !packaging | zivester (first stop is here)
[03:31] <myraft> so I picked else,
[03:31] <Guest46745> I have a question I understand that to upgrade a version of ubuntu you have to reinstall the os part but I just received a message saying I can just execute "do release upgrade" command will it have the same effect
[03:31] <myraft> and it gives me the drives that are available
[03:31] <benjamin__> Okay, and....hm..
[03:31] <benjamin__> What option did you pick?
[03:32] <myraft> I see the partition I want to put it on, but how will this fix grub ?
[03:32] <myraft> I can go through the same motions
[03:32] <benjamin__> It'll boot from the pat
[03:32] <myraft> that I did 3 times this weekend.
[03:32] <benjamin__> *part
[03:32] <benjamin__>  Or you could do a clean install
[03:33] <Bashing-om> Guest46745: What release is presently installed, and what do you want to upgrade to ? do-release does and can work, depending.
[03:33] <benjamin__> any one tried arch Linux?
[03:34] <myraft> benjamin, I see /dev/sda2 - efi - windows boot partition
[03:34] <storay> hey, is there a way I can limit pactl max volume?
[03:35] <Guest46745> Bashing-om: hi my name is fernando and I'd like to thank you for your interest
[03:35] <storay> because i can set pactl set-sink-volume to any volume possible, and I don't feel safe with that
[03:35] <benjamin__> ok, i say pick /dev/sad1 if that is there
[03:35] <Guest46745> Bashing-om: I currently have version 12 and is asking me to do version 14 upgrade
[03:35] <myraft> that is a ntfs partition with existing windows
[03:35] <Bashing-om> Guest46745: :) Here to help .
[03:36] <myraft> should I change the efi to /dev/sda1 ?
[03:36] <Bashing-om> Guest46745: Foable, what returns fron terminal command: -> grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades <- ?
[03:36] <Bashing-om> doable*
[03:37] <benjamin__> ok, if you have windows on that computer boot in that OS that go to search for partition table or some thing like that.
[03:38] <Guest46745> Bashing-om: it says Prompt=lts
[03:38] <myraft> I have windows, and it already partitioned. I had windows 8 and ubuntu 13 running. Upgrading caused the melt-down.
[03:38] <benjamin__> that make a part ion set up for Ubuntu on that machine
[03:39] <myraft> from all the reading that I did, it is a problem with grub 2 ~ beta.
[03:40] <Bashing-om> Guest46745: Doable, that setting is correct for 12.04 -> 14.04 . Now it is advisable to disable all 3rd party PPAs .. including any proprietary driver, turn off any screen saver .
[03:41] <fengshaun> how can I make ubuntu boot straight into tty and not lightdm?
[03:41] <benjamin__> ok, if you dont have a problem of me say but i have a great liunx distro i think may work for you it is called antergo liunx it is base on arch liunx but simpler.
[03:42] <Guest46745> Bashing-om: may I ask why should I turn all screensavers?
[03:42] <Bashing-om> fengshaun: one time or permanent ?
[03:42] <fengshaun> permanent
[03:43] <Bashing-om> Guest46745: interferes with the system upgrades when the system is halted ( blanking the screen) .
[03:44] <Bashing-om> fengshaun: edit the /etc/defailt/grub file to : " GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" " .
[03:44] <benjamin__> it dose not have eorrors like in ubuntu any you get it chose witch environment you want form XFCE to KDE to cinnamon
[03:44] <Bashing-om> /etc/default/grub **
[03:45] <fengshaun> Bashing-om: thanks
[03:45] <OerHeks> benjamin__, this is not the arch support channel, thanks.
[03:45] <Bashing-om> fengshaun: after the edit, run terminal command -> sudo update-grub <- for the change to take effect.
[03:46] <_comp_> hello
[03:46] <Guest46745> Bashing-om: thank you for your help that clears my doubts
[03:46] <benjamin__> ok, what is happing in unity? i have lubuntu
[03:47] <_comp_> is it possible to upgrade the firmware (dell) with centos? because i tried freedos and it does not boot. thanks!
[03:47] <OerHeks> _comp_, this is ubuntu support, not centos, and biosupgrades are a pain for linux generally
[03:48] <Bashing-om> Guest46745: Glad to help, when sure all is ready -> sudo do-release-upgrade <- and the deed will be done.
[03:48] <_comp_> derheks: ok, is there any possibility to upgrade firmware in ubuntu? sorry for my centos question.
[03:49] <OerHeks> _comp_, no, if freedos does not work, you will need windows then.
[03:49] <_comp_> derheks: hmm, ok, thanks a lot.
[03:50] <fengshaun> Bashing-om: that didn't do anything!
[03:50] <fengshaun> grub_cmdline_...="text"
[03:52] <Bashing-om> fengshaun: Did you do _; sudo update-grub ?
[03:52] <fengshaun> yea
[03:53] <benjamin__> what is the problem with GNOME 3 no day?
[03:53] <Bashing-om> fengshaun:  show us the config file -> cat /etc/default/grub | pasteninit. see if you made the edit correctly .
[03:54] <Bashing-om> fengshaun: This line " GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" "
[03:54] <fengshaun> yes, I just removed quiet splash and replaced it with text
[03:55] <fengshaun> and then update-grub
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Fanthomas90_: That will do it .. I assure you .. reboot, and now you will boot to terminal .
[03:58] <DanGarcia595> hello world
[03:58] <Bashing-om> fengshaun: Did you edit the file with admin authority (gksudo)? Did you save the file after the edit ?
[03:59] <fishcooker> how to disable all cron job for 1 hour for maintenance?
[04:02] <hkrrsx> fishcooker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254503
[04:09] <fengshaun> Bashing-om: yes, I did do all those things, it's fine, though, it's not that important! thanks for your help
[04:11] <cosmicAC> hi
[04:11] <Bashing-om> fengshaun: Booting to terminal can be critical .. That is the way I run my system .. GUI on-demand .
[04:18] <Guest46745> anyone here want a cookie
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Guest46745
[04:28] <Guest68693> ubuntu mate look nice
[04:29] <donatello> Except for my strange random freezes, I think Ubuntu mate is a great linux distro.
[04:29] <donatello> Where can I find a room/channel to just general about linux?
[04:30] <donatello> talk generally
[04:30] <somsip> donatello: #linux
[04:30] <donatello> Thank you
[04:38] <AfterDarkness> hello
[04:38] <AfterDarkness> i have just upgraded my gpu from amd to nvida. I was using open source driver
[04:39] <AfterDarkness> looking at the software and updates it shows nothing under drivers
[04:39] <AfterDarkness> any ideas how to install nvida drivers and remove the open source drivers?
[04:39] <daftykins> what card?
[04:39] <daftykins> 9xx?
[04:40] <AfterDarkness> gtx 980
[04:40] <AfterDarkness> i heard it is not supported
[04:40] <daftykins> AfterDarkness: add the xorg-edgers PPA and then install the packages nvidia-346 and nvidia-settings
[04:40] <AfterDarkness> was that true?
[04:40] <Bashing-om> AfterDarkness: So new of a Nvidia card there are no drivers available in the repo ??
[04:40] <daftykins> correct (:
[04:40] <AfterDarkness> Bashing-om, yes i will be following daftykins
[04:41] <Bashing-om> AfterDarkness: daftykins :)
[04:41] <AfterDarkness> daftykins, i would prefer the nvida proprietary drivers
[04:42] <daftykins> AfterDarkness: ... that's what they are.
[04:44] <AfterDarkness> alright i just thought if the package had nvida name doesnt necessary mean it is from nvida
[04:44] <daftykins> open source drivers don't work with the maxwell series until kernel 3.19 so i hear
[04:45] <AfterDarkness> I see
[04:45] <AfterDarkness> will i be able to upgrade my kernal with these nvidia drivers?
[04:45] <AfterDarkness> i have 3.17
[04:46] <daftykins> AfterDarkness: what are you running?
[04:46] <AfterDarkness> u mean os? ubuntu
[04:46] <daftykins> version.
[04:46] <AfterDarkness> but i have installed pf kernal
[04:46] <AfterDarkness> 14.10
[04:46] <daftykins> oh. why did you do that?
[04:46] <AfterDarkness> I like it
[04:46] <daftykins> 'pf' ?
[04:47] <daftykins> ok well this process is likely not going to work anymore since you're not running official.
[04:47] <AfterDarkness> hmmm
[04:47] <AfterDarkness> i can just remove it anyway
[04:47] <daftykins> but you can find out
[04:47] <daftykins> so, what is it?
[04:47] <daftykins> what is 'pf' ?
[04:47] <AfterDarkness> the kernal i have is supposedly work in 14.10
[04:47] <nazmulislam> need registration code
[04:47] <AfterDarkness> https://pf.natalenko.name/
[04:48] <daftykins> nazmulislam: can you ask the question in full please? what registration code?
[04:48] <daftykins> AfterDarkness: yeah that's unwise.
[04:49] <AfterDarkness> daftykins, I see
[04:49] <AfterDarkness> but man i had too. when i was copying larg files my system was unusable ..
[04:49] <daftykins> also, when you replace the kernel it ceases to be ubuntu
[04:49] <AfterDarkness> even the mouse freezes it was annoying that issue had to be resolved or i just cant live with my pc
[04:49] <daftykins> ok i don't wanna hear the life story (:
[04:49] <AfterDarkness> wow that was mean xD
[04:50] <AfterDarkness> i didnt expect that one comming xD
[04:50] <daftykins> so you have your course of action... 1) revert to an official kernel 2) add xorg-edgers PPA 3) install nvidia-346 and nvidia-settings
[04:51] <AfterDarkness> daftykins, i already installed the drivers and about to reboot
[04:51] <AfterDarkness> in case it wont work
[04:51] <AfterDarkness> ill remove the drivers and reboot again
[04:51] <AfterDarkness> wish me luck lol
[04:51] <daftykins> nah i'm good
[04:51] <AfterDarkness> u dont want to wish me luck?
[04:52] <AfterDarkness> do u hate me? :O
[04:52] <AfterDarkness> anyway brb
[04:53] <daftykins> ah the youth today.
[04:53] <nazmulislam> register for  linuxmint community page,.
[04:53] <daftykins> !mint | nazmulislam No support here.
[04:53] <nazmulislam> Registration Code need.
[04:54] <AfterDarkness> it is working thanks daftykins
[04:54] <AfterDarkness> u hate me as much as u want but I will still love u :D u cant hurt my feelings
[04:55] <nazmulislam> "irc.spotchat.org" not working, "404 not found".
[04:55] <daftykins> you're kinda nuts.
[04:55] <AfterDarkness> <3
[04:55] <daftykins> nazmulislam: it's an IRC server, not a website.
[04:55] <AfterDarkness> ik i am an idiot
[04:57] <AfterDarkness> daftykins, i would like to know why do you think this way about me, just for curiosity sake, if that is fine by you
[04:58] <daftykins> consider that these opinions have been wholly made up by you
[04:58] <daftykins> so they do not reflect fact
[05:02] <lkthomas> so, when I have service running http://1.2.3.4:8080, does it running port 443 or 8080 or both?
[05:05] <daftykins> lkthomas: "netstat -tuln"
[05:05] <daftykins> depends on said services config.
[05:05] <lkthomas> well I am on client side
[05:05] <lkthomas> not on server side
[05:05] <daftykins> *blink*
[05:05] <daftykins> so it's not your system?
[05:07] <lkthomas> nope, I just wondering what ports does it running
[05:07] <lkthomas> that's a kind of generic question, no ?
[05:08] <lewis1711> "libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" - I have libGL installed but I still get this error when I open skype. any ideas? I think it has something to do with skype being a 32 bit only thing and I am on a 64 bit machine
[05:08] <daftykins> lkthomas: i usually like to be told what the hell the thing is, in order to know what ports it's running on :>
[05:23] <fengshaun> lkthomas: 8080
[05:23] <fengshaun> lkthomas: 1.1.1.1:8080 is ip 1.1.1.1 and port 8080
[05:23] <fengshaun> 1.1.1.1:443 would be running on port 443
[05:24] <Guest46745> q
[05:24] <Guest46745> sorry
[05:24] <Guest46745> I'm sorry
[05:24] <fengshaun> daftykins: you don't need to know what it is, the url designation tells you where it's running: 1.1.1.1 on port 8080
[05:24] <daftykins> fengshaun: well, that's your interpretation of what the person is asking... i don't think so.
[05:25] <daftykins> and yes, i understand what a socket is.
[05:26] <fengshaun> that has nothing to do with sockets
[05:27] <daftykins> an IP and port can be called a socket
[05:27] <daftykins> but suffice to say, you are attempting to explain where explanation isn't needed :)
[05:27] <daftykins> and given we're not getting any further replies, likely the moment has long since passed
[05:28] <fengshaun> no no no noooo! That's not how it works! it's really not!
[05:29] <fengshaun> I'm out
[05:29] <daftykins> ok, in your head, whatever goes :)
[06:19] <Rahul> hii all
[06:20] <RahulAN> I am trying to setup ubuntu server. are there any steps to follow??
[06:20] <RahulAN> Or it will be same as normal OS installation?
[06:20] <RahulAN> i need to serve my Disk data to multiple linux and windows machines.
[06:22] <z8z> RahulAN: Can you explain what you need more precisely?
[06:23] <RahulAN> i need to make my system as a point to keep all backups, so that any machine can copy that from this server machine and do there work.
[06:24] <RahulAN> for file sharing i will need sambha server?
[06:24] <RahulAN> z8z, that what i got from googling
[06:25] <z8z> RahulAN: yes but depends what exactly you need.... personally i would suggest creating a webdav shared forder
[06:25] <z8z> RahulAN: much more flexible today than just samba
[06:25] <z8z> RahulAN: and more easy to configure and safe as well
[06:25] <RahulAN> z8z, how to do that?
[06:27] <z8z> RahulAN: are you setting up this machine only as data server?
[06:27] <RahulAN> z8z, yes
[06:28] <z8z> RahulAN: ok so just forget about Ubuntu unless you want to learn deeply how the thing works..... use FreeNas instead http://www.freenas.org/
[06:29] <z8z> RahulAN: install... then few clicks and you are ready to go
[06:30] <z8z> RahulAN: if you use more than 2 harddisks you can also set up raid5 easily and optimize storage with redundancy
[06:30] <RahulAN> z8z, Ohkk
[06:31] <RahulAN> z8z, it means no need of any installation
[06:31] <RahulAN> just download this and do stuffs?
[06:31] <mouse_> can someone please explain to me how to apply this patch? https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/120171/
[06:32] <z8z> RahulAN: you need to install.... but you don't need to put your hands in linux configuration files
[06:32] <RahulAN> z8z, is it also a OS
[06:33] <z8z> RahulAN: it's a linux based OS created only for storage and data services purpose
[06:33] <RahulAN> Ohkk
[06:33] <z8z> RahulAN: sorry freebsd based
[06:33] <RahulAN> so just we need to install it
[06:33] <z8z> RahulAN: kind of same
[06:33] <RahulAN> z8z, yes
[06:34] <RahulAN> z8z, then no need of sambha installation
[06:34] <z8z> RahulAN: just need to install and then you can find video on how to configure the different services on the website
[06:35] <RahulAN> z8z, Ohkk
[06:35] <serega527> hello all! I post here yesterday about yota usb modem. so I start it work. network manager in Kubuntu 14.04 do this nice, automatically. thanks all for help!!!
[06:35] <z8z> RahulAN: FreeNas already has everything: NFS, SAMBA, WEBDAV, WEBDAVS and also many other including streaming protocols and bittorrent client to download stuff
[06:35] <RahulAN> z8z, it sounds good
[06:36] <RahulAN> So let me download it
[06:36] <z8z> RahulAN: it uses ZFS filesystem which is the most advanced existing
[06:36] <CentosServer> confused about the .htaccess  Under what conditions can apache work without it?
[06:36] <daftykins> you're going to need to take this discussion somewhere else now people, since that's not going to be ubuntu.
[06:37] <z8z> daftykins: sorry it started as ubuntu topic and we have just finished i guess
[06:37] <RahulAN> daftykins, yes
[06:37] <RahulAN> i guess i need to move to #freenas
[06:37] <z8z> RahulAN: if you need some other info write me in PM
[06:37] <RahulAN> Ohkk
[06:53] <suraj> hello i' new to linux and just wanted to get registration code
[06:54] <bazhang> suraj, code for what
[06:55] <rahu> z8z,
[06:55] <suraj> @bazhang registration code for registering to community online
[06:56] <bazhang> suraj, registering your nickname for irc channels?
[06:56] <suraj> http://community.linuxmint.com/auth/register
[06:56] <bazhang> ask mintsupport for that suraj
[06:56] <suraj> i am asked for getting registration code in chatroom
[06:57] <daftykins> suraj: as i said earlier, this is not Mint support. the clue is that the name is "#ubuntu"
[06:57] <bazhang> ubuntu is not mint suraj
[06:57] <suraj> ok thanks by the way
[06:57] <suraj> where can i find that
[06:57] <daftykins> !mint
[06:57] <bazhang> irc.spotchat suraj
[06:58] <suraj> ok thanks by the way
[07:06] <hseg> Hi. I'm trying to find out which fonts gvim is using. How do I do this?
[07:27] <kevinde> !kernel
[07:30] <frdmn> good morning
[07:31] <frdmn> I plan to do kernel updates on a productional server tomorrow and just did a "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" to check which packages are going to be updated tomorrow, but it complains that It cant resolv the dependencies and I should try with "--full-resolver" switch.
[07:32] <frdmn> if I do that, it works without any issues and doesnt show up any more information regarding the error.
[07:32] <frdmn> im not sure if everything okay or not
[07:32] <frdmn> apt-get upgrade doesn't complain about that
[07:33] <bloop1> since I've updated to 14.04 my wireless connection goes in and out
[07:34] <daftykins> frdmn: the default is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade", if you have errors share them with us via pastebin of the first command
[07:35] <hseg> Hi. I'm trying to find out which fonts gvim is using. How do I do this?
[07:36] <linux> hi
[07:37] <frdmn> daftykins: well, I always use aptitude instead of apt-get
[07:37] <frdmn> and the message only occures with aptitude, however I noticed this on apt-get:
[07:37] <bloop1> thereit ent again
[07:37] <bloop1> there it went again
[07:38] <frdmn> daftykins: http://paste.frd.mn/ejulokexur
[07:40] <daftykins> frdmn: withheld perhaps. yeah you'd need to run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to update the kernel etc. too
[07:40] <daftykins> frdmn: i can't tell if anything is wrong unless you run and pastebin "sudo apt-get update" though :)
[07:42] <XenophonF> hey any NIS users here? on ubuntu 12.04.5, can log into the computer using an NIS account, but UID-to-name resolution doesn't work
[07:43] <XenophonF> so if you do an "ls -l" you see UIDs, not account names
[07:43] <XenophonF> chown works fine, too
[07:43] <XenophonF> this is what uid has to say:
[07:43] <XenophonF> uid=10018 gid=10000(Domain Users) groups=10000(Domain Users)
[07:44] <XenophonF> getent shows the right data:
[07:44] <XenophonF> workshop11:*:10018:10000::/home/workshop11:/bin/bash
[07:45] <XenophonF> hm, maybe i'd better double-check the maps published by IDMU - just a sec
[07:45] <frdmn> daftykins: there you go :)
[07:45] <frdmn> apt-get update: http://paste.frd.mn/gozimujihi, apt-get upgrade: http://paste.frd.mn/upagolayug, aptitude update: http://paste.frd.mn/bimosasati, aptitude upgrade: http://paste.frd.mn/tumunonocu
[07:48] <daftykins> frdmn: hmm not sure about your aptitude issue there, since it's not standard. you don't need to use "sudo" when you're already root by the way :)
[07:49] <frdmn> daftykins: I am aware of that, just copy and pasted your command :)
[07:49] <frdmn> well, should I just do the upgrade tomorrow with apt-get?
[07:49] <XenophonF> ah - looks like passwd.byuid isn't being updated on my windows domain controller
[07:49] <frdmn> or with aptitude and --full-resolver?
[07:49] <frdmn> since that seems to work as well, however I am not sure whats wrong
[07:51] <hseg> Hi. I'm trying to find out which fonts gvim is using. How do I do this?
[07:52] <somsip> hseg: Edit menu, Select Font item
[07:54] <daftykins> frdmn: give "man aptitude" a read on what that switch is actually doing, i'm not familiar with it really. i always apt-get dist-upgrade my servers
[07:54] <frdmn> daftykins: I did, don't really understand how it is relevant to my server :/
[07:54] <frdmn> well, anyway... whats the difference between upgrade via "upgrade" and via "dist-upgrade"?
[07:55] <hseg> somsip: But that only gives one font - Ubuntu Monospace. And I know that that fone doesn't have a glyph for, say, U+2985
[07:55] <somsip> hseg: that's the font gvim is using. What is your real question?
[07:56] <hseg> I see that gvim here is capable of rendering U+2985. I'd like to find out which font it's using to do so, so that I'll be able to download it at home and use it there.
[07:56] <somsip> hseg: here?
[07:56] <hseg> At uni
[07:57] <hseg> I've checked, and Ubuntu Monospace lacks a glyph for U+2985 for example. But somehow, gvim is capable of rendering it. So it is using some other font to render it.
[07:57] <daftykins> frdmn: like i said, all packages + kernel too
[07:58] <frdmn> daftykins: well, I update all my packages and kernel as well, just with out the "dist-" part :D
[07:58] <frdmn> thats why I asked
[07:58] <hseg> Or the version of Ubuntu Monospace packaged with 14.04 is more capable than the one available at http://font.ubuntu.com/
[07:59] <mauro_> Hello! I am booting my system from a SD card. I am trying to mount Ubuntu Core 14.10 armhf on a 3.19.2 Mainline Kernel for an ARMv7 architecture (Cubietruck board). I am Using UBoot 2015.1 stable version and this is my boot.cmd http://pastebin.com/7R37Qkpk. When the booting process the kernel gets loaded correctly, but when the RootFS gets initialized, the process stops at “init: ureadahead main process (46) terminated with status 5” http://tny.cz/e516b63
[07:59] <mauro_> 0. I have checked the “/var/lib/ureadahead/” folder, and it’s empty. If I am not wrong the process should configure itself and create a “pack” file in the folder, but nothing happens in my case. What should I do?
[08:01] <geirha> hseg: yeah looks like it. In Ubuntu 12.04, it doesn't render, but it does in 14.04
[08:02] <daftykins> frdmn: mmm no
[08:02] <cell__> exit
[08:02] <hseg> Most of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_operators_and_symbols_in_Unicode renders on ubuntu 14.04
[08:02] <frdmn> daftykins: what do you mean?
[08:02] <hseg> (In monospaced)
[08:02] <hseg> But if I try to download the font from font.ubuntu.com, it doesn't render. At least, not under windows.
[08:02] <daftykins> frdmn: if we're comparing apt-get upgrade to apt-get dist-upgrade, then they don't do the same thing specifically no - sometimes packages can be held back like in your pastes
[08:03] <frdmn> hmm, well I never used dist-upgrade
[08:03] <geirha> hseg: I also tried it at font.ubuntu.com. It renders when looking at it from a browser in 14.04, but not 12.04
[08:05] <hseg> geirha: It also rendered for me there under windows w/o the font installed (i.e. using webfonts), but when I downloaded the font, it was incapable of rendering stuff that the webpage showed it could.
[08:05] <geirha> weird
[08:20] <arna2> why i get this errors   libcom_err-1.42.9-4.el7.i686: [Errno 5] [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory ??
[08:21] <svetlana> when?
[08:23] <TheNumb> arna2: ask rhel guys
[08:23] <hseg> geirha: Any ideas?
[08:28] <artista_frustrad> I've searched the web but I could not find any realiable information. I'm also in a hurry so
[08:29] <artista_frustrad> How can I configure network using systemd on 14.10?
[08:30] <svetlana> artista_frustrad: as before, network manager is still there i think
[08:33] <artista_frustrad> svetlana, is there a way to configure the network without the need to install x11 packages?
[08:35] <luca__> Hi
[08:35] <svetlana> hi luca__
[08:36] <luca__> You speek italian?
[08:38] <DJones> !it | luca__
[08:38] <z8z> luca__: Oramai si parla solo inglese su internet
[08:39] <luca__> Ah ok! I have one problem, install ubuntu LTS in boot , error: TSC CONFIGURATION FAILED solution?
[08:42] <z8z> luca__: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18055593/how-to-solve-fast-tsc-calibration-failed-issue-that-occurs-on-boot-in-virtualbox
[08:43] <maziar> which application calls iptables on debian, because its does not have diamond
[08:43] <maziar> which application calls iptables on debian startup , because its does not have diamond
[08:43] <luca__> Thx this a real solution?
[08:44] <z8z> luca__: it says not a critical bug but just a message and you should change boot parameter to have that message disappear
[08:45] <z8z> luca__: but i haven't had this problem before so i'm not sure
[08:46] <luca__> Change boot parameter "Fast TSC(TimeStamp Counter)"?
[08:47] <hseg> This is weird. Checking coverage of UbuntuMono-R.ttf shows that it definitely does not cover U+2985. How, then, is gvim rendering the glyph?
[08:48] <luca__> This problem appears with any distribution (ubuntu,xubuntu,linux mint etc..)
[08:49] <svetlana> hseg: type <span style="font-family:Ubuntu Mono;">&#x2985;</span> at this page: http://htmledit.squarefree.com/
[08:49] <svetlana> hseg: does it work for you?
[08:49] <hseg> Yes.
[08:49] <hseg> Weirdly enough.
[08:50] <svetlana> hseg: ok what web browser are you using?
[08:50] <hseg> Chrome
[08:55] <hseg> Argh.
[08:55] <hseg> I remember that X has a string that lists fallback fonts to use, but I don't recall how to access it.
[08:56] <svetlana> hseg: give me a minute
[08:56] <hseg> Take two
[08:57] <svetlana> hseg: http://i.imgur.com/AvXFCNx.png which one is rendered correctly?
[08:58] <hseg> left upper
[08:59] <svetlana> ok
[09:00] <hseg> Eureka! Apparently, Monospace is an alias for DejaVu Sans Mono
[09:00] <hseg> OK, now to find out whether that explains all the weirdness.
[09:01] <hseg> fc-match Monospace gives DejaVuSansMono.ttf: "DejaVu Sans Mono" "Book"
[09:02] <hseg> But it's still not the entire story, since U+2985 isn't covered by DejaVu Mono *either*.
[09:06] <svetlana> hseg: try it out at http://font.ubuntu.com/
[09:06] <svetlana> hseg: Ubuntu Mono apparently has this symbol in its range
[09:07] <hseg> According to the test site, yes. According to every single way I've parsed the ttf, no.
[09:08] <svetlana> ok I'll look at the ttf in a few minutes
[09:19] <hseg> svetlana: Turns out that U+2985 *did* display as the right-hand version in your screenshot http://i.imgur.com/AvXFCNx.png It's just that it got cut off, looking like the left-hand version.
[09:20] <Rurd2di> cinnamon is not at all stable in ubuntu 14.04
[09:20] <Rurd2di> so many random little issues
[09:20] <Rurd2di> zzz
[09:20] <hseg> Testing using pango-view with debugging settings on shows that DejaVuSansMono renders the characters fine. Now the only question is how that works, given that it doesn't cover these characters.
[09:24] <falcon> hello
[09:24] <svetlana> hseg: ok; I've downloaded the ttf so it'll be a little bit before I figure out how to examine it
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> falcon: welcome
[09:26] <hseg> svetlana: I'm using https://everythingfonts.com/ttfcoverage, http://wizard.ae.krakow.pl/~jb/lsfont.html, http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/font/dejavu_sans_mono/index.htm and querying pango-view
[09:28] <photon2> Hi. I have noticed that the global umask of Ubuntu has apparently changed from 0022 in earlier versions to 0002 in 14.04. Is there a reason for this?
[09:34] <shaun_> hi guys is there an lxml python channel? it seems its impossible to remove namespaces
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> shaun_: #python
[09:35] <shark> There is a chat channel?
[09:36] <trogdor_> h
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> shark: what kind of chat are you seeking?
[09:38] <shark> history
[09:39] <shark> History or culture
[09:39] <somsip> !alis | shark
[09:40] <victor> hi guys, can you give me a good alternative to evolution calendar? i hate it and i don't find any decent replacement, i like maya from elementary bur i don't find the way to install it
[09:40] <shark> Thank you
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> victorp: try apt-cache search calendar or search in software centre
[09:46] <shark> sorry, how to search channal?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> shark: somsip just pasted you the link
[09:49] <shark> what ?
[09:51] <k1l_> !alis | shark
[09:53] <shark> thank you very much.
[09:58] <shark> wc
[10:10] <vikthor_> hi
[10:10] <vikthor_> someone use "ranger" command ?
[10:11] <bekks> What if someone does?
[10:11] <vikthor_> cause I have a question
[10:11] <bekks> !ask | vikthor_
[10:12] <vikthor_> ubottu: ok so when I execute the command to navigate on repositories, when I quit ranger, I want to stay on the last repository in ranger
[10:13] <vikthor_>  ok so when I execute the command to navigate on repositories, when I quit ranger, I want to stay on the last repository in ranger
[10:13] <vikthor_> is that possible?
[10:14] <djam90> When I run sudo apt-get upgrade..... it keeps back the following....   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[10:14] <djam90> , is there a reason why?
[10:15] <somsip> djam90: because this will affect other installed packages. Use 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to update those
[10:15] <ashu11> !patience
[10:15] <djam90> somsip, thank you my friend
[10:16] <vikthor_> ?
[10:16] <somsip> djam90: FYI http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[10:17] <djam90> interesting, thank you somsip !!
[10:18] <djam90> I was on 14.04, I am guessing it is going to upgrade me to 14.10
[10:18] <djam90> or is that wrong
[10:18] <somsip> djam90: no, that would be do-release-upgrade (from memory)
[10:18] <djam90> ahhhh
[10:18] <somsip> djam90: and that wouldn't do it automatically as you on on a LTS version
[10:18] <djam90> i see. got it
[10:19] <djam90> Is it worth the upgrade to 14.10?
[10:19] <djam90> Its just a VM that I use for linuxy stuff
[10:19] <somsip> djam90: common opinion suggests no, unless you really need it for hardware support
[10:19] <djam90> great I will leave it as-is then
[10:24] <kotten> How would I do if I want my ubuntu to support olders USB HID that it doesn't seem to do anymore? (I am looking for like.. Obselete packet with USB-HID drivers) something back in ~8.04?
[10:29] <rishikl> Hi
[10:30] <kotten> Irishikl hello
[10:32] <shark> Someone who can help me to look for a channel on Culture?
[10:33] <shark> I don't use server bot.
[10:34] <Fuchs> shark: use alis. If you don't feel like using alis, use one of the web indexers like netsplit.de. If you don't want that either: your problem.
[10:34] <Fuchs> http://www.ircindexer.net/  this one would probably work as well. In any case, this is definitely the wrong channel to ask.
[10:35] <shark> Thank you.
[10:45] <bowlesa> Hey, the bluetooth switch won't stay enabled in the settings menu
[10:45] <bowlesa> I enable and the reopen setting immediately and it's disabled itself
[10:46] <EriC^^> bowlesa: type sudo find ~ ! -user <your user>
[10:46] <bowlesa> type: invalid option --'u'
[10:46] <bowlesa> ans s, e, r
[10:46] <bowlesa> and*
[10:47] <bowlesa> oh, I copied type
[10:47] <bowlesa> :|
[10:49] <bowlesa> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/10706102/plain/
[10:51] <EriC^^> bowlesa: try sudo chown -R <your user>: ~
[10:51] <vito_> ciao
[10:51] <vito_> !list
[10:52] <svetlana> trying to move to openrc. http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/raw/e445a45f -- nothing useful on the web comes up, please help. (things boot ok, but the boot log doesn't look right.)
[10:53] <bowlesa> EriC^^ Still not able to set bluetooth on. do I need to relog?
[10:54] <EriC^^> ok, try t
[10:54] <EriC^^> to relog
[10:55] <svetlana> Hi EriC^^.
[10:55] <EriC^^> hi svetlana
[10:57] <bowlesa> EriC^^ nope
[10:59] <EriC^^> bowlesa: no idea
[11:00] <bowlesa> ok, thanks
[11:00] <octavian> bekks: hey dude
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Good Day folks
[11:15] <mari> hy
[11:15] <mari> LL
[11:15] <mari> ALL
[11:16] <svetlana> mari, hi.
[11:16] <svetlana> mari, what's up?
[11:33] <francis> hola
[11:34] <svetlana> hola francis
[11:35] <francis> hola :9
[11:36] <progfunk> Help! :P I found out that my black screen when I quit x to get terminal only happens because I use displayport. When connecting through vga with the integrated gpu, terminal is showing correctly, but through displayport I guess the terminal has a different resolution than the screen, so the text, cursor and everything visible is outside of the screen.. how to fix this?
[11:36] <francis> :-)
[11:41] <TurtleDan> HOwdy folks.  For some reason when I click on "Places - Home Folder" it opens a program on the PC and not the Home Folder.  IS there a way to see why?
[11:41] <TurtleDan> I haven't tried a log out/reboot yet.
[11:46] <progfunk> did anyone understand my problem? :S
[12:05] <teward> anyone know of a spam handling system i can set up or install on an endpoint client (my laptop) to do spam handling for Thunderbird?
[12:08] <Windayme> .
[12:10] <bekks> teward: spamassassin.
[12:11] <teward> bekks: got a link to setup?
[12:12] <ablest1980> teward you can find spamassasin at ubuntu software center
[12:13] <ablest1980> spamassassin*
[12:14] <iolop> how
[12:14] <leeyaa> hello
[12:14] <ablest1980> hello
[12:14] <iolop> how could i can get root?
[12:14] <teward> ablest1980: i meant guides for tuning, etc.
[12:14] <ablest1980> oh
[12:14] <ablest1980> sorry
[12:14] <teward> iolop: there is no root, you use `sudo` to run commands that need to run as superuser.
[12:14] <leeyaa> is it possible to change something so reload rsyslog actually runs  /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart
[12:14] <teward> !root | ips|malc
[12:14] <teward> oops
[12:14] <teward> iolop: ^
[12:15] <iolop> i find its impossible to write anything in the etc/apt/sources.list
[12:16] <iolop> but i wanna use the sources from other web=:(
[12:17] <iolop> teward?are you still here?
[12:17] <ablest1980> right click view source on the webpage
[12:18] <teward> iolop: you don't read do you
[12:18] <teward> iolop: read the link that ubottu just said
[12:18] <iolop> thanks,i'll take a try
[12:18] <teward> iolop: there is no 'root' password and in theory you don't 'get root' - you grant commands access by the 'sudo' command as explained in the link ubottu just said
[12:19] <BluesKaj> iolop, alt+F2,  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:19] <iolop> ok:)
[12:24] <ubuntuser13>  when i trying to root using su -l . authentication failure error. why?
[12:24] <Fuchs> ubuntuser13: you probably want sudo -i  instead
[12:24] <Fuchs> su would switch to the root account which in ubuntu default settings has no password and is disabled
[12:26] <ubuntuser13> Fuchs: yes, you're right. Thanks you very much for help.
[12:26] <Fuchs> ubuntuser13: you're welcome
[12:28] <labeeb32> Hello. IS windows 10 technical preview and ubuntu 14.04.2 both 64 bits dual booting possible?
[12:29] <bekks> Yes.
[12:29] <labeeb32> it will give OS choosing option at start everytime?
[12:30] <ramen69> labeeb32: It really depends if you set it up that way
[12:30] <ramen69> labeeb32: you could try installing the wubi
[12:31] <ramen69> labeeb32: nvm..
[12:31] <bekks> wubi is not supported anymore and the usage is discouraged.
[12:31] <ramen69> ^^
[12:31] <labeeb32> i heard the same
[12:31] <asdpew> how to add umask on folder ? ex. /var/www/web_public
[12:32] <ramen69> labeeb32: there arent any official instructions but this way will probably be the best to follow to get dual boot http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html
[12:33] <ramen69> labeeb32: you will have to bastardise the instructions a little however so some intuition is required ^^
[12:33] <labeeb32> sure
[12:33] <bekks> !dualboot | labeeb32
[12:34] <ramen69> labeeb32: you've got this far so you should have no problem
[12:34] <bekks> ramen69: Since when there arent official instructions anymore? :)
[12:34] <ramen69> i meant for win 10?
[12:34] <ramen69> unless there are
[12:34] <bekks> Install Win 10, Install Ubuntu. Done. :)
[12:34] <labeeb32> im trying
[12:35] <ramen69> kek
[12:36] <ledil> hello ive create a ppa, uploaded a package to my ppa ... dput says uploading successfully, but I cant see my package
[12:36] <alexises>  /buffer close
[12:39] <Guest20501> where can i get linux-extra-images for linux kernels... im using 14.04.2 and would like to try newer kernels
[12:40] <ramen69> can anyone link me to a decent guide on generating ssh keys?
[12:40] <bekks> Guest20501: There where you get your newer kernels from.
[12:40] <bekks> ramen69: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[12:40] <Guest20501> bekks no ... http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[12:40] <ramen69> bekks: ty
[12:42] <bekks> Guest20501: For mainline kernels, you would have to recompile the kernel yourself with the required modules. Which modules are you missing, in particular?
[12:43] <Guest20501> bekks if you know any other link where i can get newer kernels and the extra-image let me know please
[12:43] <bekks> Guest20501: mainline kernel are the place to go. Which modules do you miss in particular?
[12:43] <Guest20501> bekks im facing problems of waking up my desktop aftter hibernate
[12:43] <bekks> Guest20501: And why do you think linux-image-extra will solve it?
[12:51] <asdpew> hi, how to add umask on folder ? ex. /var/www/web_public
[12:51] <bekks> asdpew: Whats the actual issue behind that?
[12:51] <johnflux> I'm trying to apt-get install  bino   but it says that there's no installation candidate for libavcodec54
[12:52] <johnflux> I have ubuntu 14.04 .  How do I install this?
[12:52] <asdpew> bekks: well for example if i create new file in that folder i have to manual change permission
[12:53] <bekks> asdpew: How do you create a file there?
[12:53] <guestkh> hello, in ubuntu how do i give the command to take 40 consecutive screenshots at regular intervals in the next 10 seconds? (or 1 screenshot every 0.25 seconds for the next 10 seconds)?
[12:53] <asdpew> bekks: ex Sublime
[12:54] <bekks> asdpew: "ex Sublime" does not tell me how you create files in a specific folder.
[12:54] <MrElendig> guestkh: simple for loop in your shell
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> guestkh: with the command 'sleep 40' in a for-loop
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> MrElendig: was faster
[12:55] <guestkh> MrElendig: can you please give me the full command (i am beginner level)
[12:55] <MrElendig> MonkeyDust: sleep 40 won't do what he wanted
[12:55] <MrElendig> guestkh: why not just capture a video though?
[12:55] <johnflux> Online I see  libavcodec54:   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+package/libavcodec54
[12:55] <guestkh> no not video, i need single images
[12:56] <asdpew> bekks: well, i have website in folder /var/www/web_public and I want user that in sublime text editor. When i create new file ex. index.php i want this file be with 775 permisions.
[12:56] <guestkh> every 0.15 seconds
[12:56] <johnflux> But apt-get install   says there's no installation candidate for it?!
[12:56] <guestkh> 0.25 i mean sorry
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> MrElendig: guestkh make thet: with the 'sleep' command, i forget the interval syntax
[12:56] <Guest20501> bekks dont know why but 3.19 is the only kernel which i dont have linux-image-extra... and every time i put the pc in hibernate mode i have to reboot... it doesnt wake up
[12:56] <bekks> Guest20501: So use a supported kernel then. :)
[12:56] <MrElendig> guestkh: you can easily get single images out of a video
[12:56] <Guest20501> other kernels are working ok...
[12:56] <asdpew> bekks: use*
[12:56] <MrElendig> guestkh: and it will be more accurate
[12:56] <MrElendig> Guest20501: fix your nick please
[12:57] <guestkh> but every 0.25 seconds 40 images...
[12:57] <MrElendig> ?
[12:57] <Guest20501> bekks thats what im using ;) just want to try newer kernels....
[12:57] <MrElendig> anywy
[12:57] <huig> hello, is there another program terminator-like for the terminal?
[12:57] <guestkh> i wanted to give a command in terminal and find all the images in a folder....
[12:57] <bekks> asdpew: you cannot set umask per directory. you have to put yourself into a group having write permissions in the folder you want to have write permissions to.
[12:58] <guestkh> please help me do it this way
[12:58] <MrElendig> for i in {1..40}: do scrot whatever; sleep 0.25; done
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> guestkh: maybe the people in #bash can tell you how to do what you want
[12:58] <MrElendig> s/:/;/
[12:58] <cluelessperson> hey guys, I set up ssh keys for login and it worked.  However, I've moved the server, changed the ips, etc.  Logging in from a different machine, and it refuses the key
[12:58] <cluelessperson> and now it refuses the original machine too?
[12:58] <MrElendig> will not be exactly every 0.25 sec thogh
[12:58] <MrElendig> though*
[12:58] <huig> guestkh: do the images have an extension?
[12:58] <cluelessperson> any ideas how to view which logs?
[12:58] <MrElendig> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[12:58] <guestkh> jpg or png is ok
[12:59] <huig> guestkh: cd your folder, find . | grep "*.png"
[12:59] <asdpew> bekks: ok thanks i will try.
[13:00] <guestkh>  how to put in terminal this: for i in {1..40}: do scrot whatever; sleep 0.25; done
[13:00] <guestkh> ok i will try, if not i go to #bash, thanksall
[13:01] <cluelessperson> anyone?
[13:01] <bekks> cluelessperson: Setup new ssh keys for the new machine.
[13:02] <dsc_> ssh-keygen
[13:02] <Pici> cluelessperson: Are you getting an error?
[13:02] <dsc_> [8bit chiptunes]
[13:02] <bekks> cluelessperson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[13:02] <huig> is there something for the terminal like terminator but not being terminator?
[13:02] <Pici> huig: tmux or screen
[13:02] <cluelessperson> bekks, no.
[13:03] <cluelessperson> Pici, No, only that my key was refused.
[13:03] <huig> Pici: same funcionality?
[13:03] <Pici> huig: similar, yes.
[13:03] <cluelessperson> Pici, can't access mysql either for some reason.
[13:03] <Pici> cluelessperson: Are you accessing it by ip or by name?
[13:04] <cluelessperson> Pici, ip.
[13:04] <cluelessperson> Pici, It was working before I moved it and changed the ip
[13:04] <cluelessperson> from 192.168.0.37  to 192.168.0.254
[13:04] <bekks> They key doesnt work for the new IP.
[13:04] <cluelessperson> Pici, do you know where the ssh log would be?
[13:04] <bekks> Set new keys.
[13:04] <bekks> *Setup
[13:05] <cluelessperson> bekks, I'm not setting up new keys.
[13:05] <cluelessperson> how to just change the allowed client?
[13:05] <bekks> Then you will not be able to solve your issue.
[13:05] <cluelessperson> bekks, I think that's stupid and retarded.
[13:05] <cluelessperson> bekks, You're saying a key is only active for a particular client?
[13:06] <bekks> cluelessperson: Host keys are valid for one host only.
[13:06] <Pici> cluelessperson: in /var/log/auth.log
[13:06] <cluelessperson> bekks, I don't believe you.
[13:06] <bekks> cluelessperson: Thats up to you.
[13:06] <cluelessperson> bekks, I did it before, so you're wrong.
[13:07] <bekks> cluelessperson: So fix your issue and prove it.
[13:08] <cluelessperson> bekks, you're being counter productive
[13:08] <BluesKaj> i guess the nick fits :)
[13:08] <bekks> cluelessperson: You are keeping this pointless discussion up. Stop it now.
[13:08] <Pici> ...
[13:08] <cluelessperson> bekks, When someone askes how to fix something, you don't tell them to buy something else entirely instead.
[13:09] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj, The question was "how to fix a key not being accepted or get to the bottom of it"  not, "what's a work around"
[13:10] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj, that's a great way to patchwork/spiderweb your work and it's ugly.
[13:10]  * cluelessperson is confused.
[13:11] <cluelessperson> The server cannot submit to pastebin, cannot connect to server
[13:11] <Pici> cluelessperson: ANYWAY... if you can check the logs, that would be a great place to start.
[13:11] <pi-> How to download http://foo.com/file.zip into the current folder?
[13:11] <cluelessperson> pi-, wget
[13:11] <AppleCIDR> pi-: wget
[13:11] <pi-> not curl?
[13:11] <somsip> cluelessperson: it is possible to use keys in different clients. But the server may be setup to do a reverse IP lookup to ensure the key is being used by the server/IP that generated it
[13:12] <cluelessperson> pi-, if you wanted..
[13:12] <cluelessperson> somsip, I did not configure that, unless it's a default.
[13:12] <somsip> cluelessperson: it is maybe something to check
[13:13] <cluelessperson> somsip, Pici  I can ping the server, but the server cannot paste to pastebinit, odd
[13:13] <BluesKaj> cluelessperson, you've received good advice from 2 knowledgeable users here, just fllow it
[13:14] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj, I cannot ssh into the server, generating a new key will be annoying, and I'd rather find out why it's screwed in the first place.
[13:14] <pi-> Can I inspect the contents of file.zip before unpacking it?  I want to check whether it is going to correctly create a folder and unpack into that folder or just spray everything into the current folder..
[13:14] <somsip> pi-: unzip -l
[13:14] <cluelessperson> Pici, network is unreachable
[13:20] <cluelessperson> Pici, somsip   I connected the wrong ethernet port out of the duals.  The second one has disabled service, but it'd still establish an ip.
[13:20] <cluelessperson> weird
[13:20] <Pici> cluelessperson: so.. its working now?
[13:20] <cluelessperson> Pici, restarting to renew to the correct ip.
[13:25] <whatever123> Any help on how to uninstall ubuntu ? i installed it yestarday then i deleted the partion it was installed with windows i installed another version of windows over that hard drive and i cannot boot them because it puts me on the grub rescue> prompt
[13:25] <aenaxi> i'd like to switch to 'programmers dvorak' keyboard layout, but to do so i need to change two of its keybindings (æÆøØ -> äÄöÖ). does anyone know how to do that?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> whatever123, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:34] <cluelessperson> Pici, That was not it, but the issue is network configuration on ubuntu
[13:34] <cluelessperson> Pici, I can ping the hardware, but ubuntu isn't accepting anything, probably an interface issue
[13:42] <cluelessperson> Alright, ubuntu is givin me "network unreachable" when I try to ping out, and I have no idea why.
[13:43] <ikonia> cluelessperson: is your network up
[13:43] <cluelessperson> ikonia, yes.
[13:44] <ikonia> cluelessperson: how are you verifying that ?
[13:44] <cluelessperson> my desktop and work laptop
[13:44] <ikonia> ok, what is the host you are trying to talk to
[13:44] <cluelessperson> ikonia, 192.168.0.254
[13:45] <ikonia> cluelessperson: are you sure thats not the broadcast address ?
[13:45] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I'm certain
[13:45] <rockstar_> iori (from previous convo) : thanks for helping my Ubuntu to connect to university network. It finally worked! :)
[13:45] <ikonia> cluelessperson: ok - what is your client's ip address
[13:45] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I think I may have gotten ports mixed up
[13:45] <ikonia> ok, great
[13:45] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I swapped ports (had to restart) and now it can ping the internet
[13:46] <ikonia> ping the internet ?
[13:46] <ikonia> you said it was a 192 address
[13:46] <ikonia> that is not the interent
[13:46] <cluelessperson> ikonia, google.
[13:46] <ikonia> the address you gave is not google
[13:46] <cluelessperson> ikonia, well, it should be able to do either.
[13:46] <cluelessperson> ikonia, but yes.
[13:46] <ikonia> ???
[13:46] <m0r0n> Can someone help me with this setup? Section "Run the DelugeDaemon on startup" http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software/Install-Deluge-Headless.html
[13:46] <ikonia> I don't understand - you just gave details that are nothig to do with the internet
[13:46] <MrElendig> m0r0n: su -u deluge ... in a init script
[13:47] <m0r0n> MrElendig, I'm confused where I'm supposed to write the script to
[13:47] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I wasn't able to ping anything before, now I can after swapping the ethernet ports.
[13:47] <ikonia> ok
[13:48] <MrElendig> or a propper upstart script
[13:48] <m0r0n> MrElendig, if my HDD partition isn't on /media/ where do I leave this script
[13:48] <hyde> hi. I have two packages with status pi (purge, installed, or something). I think this just means they're set to be purged, but for now they are normally installed. I want to set them back to ii (install, installed, or whatever). What's the right command?
[13:48] <MrElendig> I can't open havetheknowhow btw because of horrible site design
[13:49] <MrElendig> m0r0n: read the upstart docs
[13:49] <m0r0n> Reading
[13:50] <SonikkuAmerica> hyde - [ sudo apt-get autoremove --purge ]
[13:51] <SonikkuAmerica> hyde - Oh wait...
[13:52] <SonikkuAmerica> hyde - You wanted to install them... in that case use [ sudo apt-get install $PACKAGE1 $PACKAGE2 ]
[14:04] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I'm not very familiar with server hardware.
[14:06] <ikonia> cluelessperson: not sure what that has to do with anything ?
[14:06] <ikonia> or what you're asking ?
[14:07] <hyde> SonikkuAmerica: thanks, but I want to find out how do this with plain dpkg. So the packages are already installed.
[14:08] <ramen69> any of you using puush it was exploited recently
[14:09] <hyde> ah, got it! echo "packagename install" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[14:10] <TurtleDan> When I click on Home folder or Desktop in Ubuntu it goes to Puddletag.  Is there a way to fix that?
[14:10] <TurtleDan> Under Places
[14:16] <m0r0n> exit
[14:19] <KnightsOfNi> Hi, in the authorized_keys file, is it ok to leave an empty line between two keys?
[14:24] <bekks> KnightsOfNi: Thats not intended.
[14:25] <labeeb32> it says "no operating system found" during ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS installation while i have windows technical preview installed. Its about dual boot
[14:25] <MrEikono> hey everyone!
[14:25] <MrEikono> labeeb so you installed off a flash drive/boot disk/whatever?
[14:26] <labeeb32> flash drive
[14:26] <MrEikono> alright.
[14:26] <EriC^^> labeeb32: partition it manually
[14:26] <MrEikono> yeah, that's the part you're missing.
[14:26] <labeeb32> its something to do with gpt partitioning i guess
[14:27] <labeeb32> but if i try to partition manually, it gives me all hard as blank
[14:27] <EriC^^> labeeb32: type sudo parted -l
[14:28] <MrEikono> so my question is: Is there anyone in this room that's built a distro before that can tell me where to get started?
[14:28] <labeeb32> it asks me wether partition is gpt or not. i say yes and it gives me flash drive partition details
[14:28] <labeeb32> thatsall
[14:28] <EriC^^> labeeb32: hmm try sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[14:28] <ikonia> MrEikono yes, but that is nothing to do with ubuntu, and this channel really
[14:29] <MrEikono> sorry, then. Where should I ask
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: you mean creating an ubuntu unattended?
[14:29] <MrEikono> lotuspsychje: What's that mean. I wanna make a fork of Ubuntu
[14:30] <MrEikono> that's partly why I'm asking here, ikonia, but if it's not the reason, where should I ask
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: maybe #snappy can help you building something you need?
[14:31] <hyde> MrEikono: you could start with just creating a custom installer for Ubuntu, with desired package selection.
[14:31] <MrEikono> lotuspsychje: I don't need a disto, I just kinda wanted to build one because I thought it would be cool. but I'll check out #snappy
[14:31] <MrEikono> *distro
[14:31] <MrEikono> hyde: where can I do that?
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: if you dont want it related to ubuntu you can try ##linux
[14:32] <hyde> MrEikono: google "customize ubuntu installer" or something. can't give you anything more definitive than that, sorry
[14:33] <MrEikono> it's alright hyde
[14:34] <MrEikono> lotuspsychje: I do want it related to Ubuntu. I'm saying I don't _need_ one for a specific reason and I just thought it would be a cool project if I built one myself.
[14:34] <au7h> hi scooby
[14:35] <cfhowlett> MrEikono, "linux from scratch" is the project you want.
[14:35] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[14:35] <MrEikono> cfhowlett: ah, I have seen that before. Thanks
[14:35] <au7h> it works :D
[14:35] <stef1a> i'm using 14.10 and trying to mount a partition to root. i have the following in my fstab: "UUID=... / ext4 defaults 0 2". when i reboot, nothing indicates that the partition was mounted. help?
[14:35] <au7h> i'm using Debian Wheezy :D
[14:36] <MrEikono> lotuspsychje: what is that link for?
[14:36] <au7h> hi scooby
[14:36] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[14:36] <MrEikono> oh wait - so this is custom installer that was mentioned?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: build own ubuntu distro yourself
[14:36] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[14:36] <MrEikono> okay
[14:37] <au7h> write "hi, scooby" :D
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> !info uck | MrEikono
[14:38] <au7h> i can add more comands :D
[14:38] <MrEikono> Ahh.
[14:38] <au7h> ubuntu sucks
[14:38] <MrEikono> so that's a package I install in Ubuntu to do this? haven't read the page yet :p
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> au7h: stop that please
[14:38] <au7h> oky
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> MrEikono  these names are already taken http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#/media/File:UbuntuFamilyTree1210.svg
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: thats one package you can use
[14:39] <au7h> :))
[14:39] <MrEikono> lotuspsycheje: alright. thanks for the help
[14:39] <MrEikono> MonkeyDust: ooh that should be useful
[14:44] <MrEikono> what's wubuntu?
[14:44] <MrEikono> I wanted to call it that, for Windows + Ubuntu (yup now you see my idea) but the project on SF and stuff seems inactive.
[14:45] <MrEikono> it's not even on that list that MonkeyDust sent me
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: be carefull to switch 2 Os togheter without knowing what you do, check what happened to linspire
[14:48] <vooze> Anyone know why grub is loading slow? It looks like an image being loaded on a really slow connection (step by step loading) Is that GPU related or could it be the 3200x1800 screens fault?
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> vooze: what kind of gpu and ubuntu version?
[14:50] <KnightsOfNi> for some reason grep does nothing for me, i type: grep "PHP_OS" /var/www - and it just goes back to prompt without any message
[14:51] <KnightsOfNi> anything wrong with the syntax?
[14:53] <vooze> lotuspsychje, its 15.04 (but had the same problem with 14.04 and 14.10) and its Intel HD 4600 + Nvidia 750m
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> vooze: that card does it have optimus technology?
[14:53] <vooze> lotuspsychje, jep
[14:53] <vooze> yep *
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> vooze: did you install nvidia-prime?
[14:53] <vooze> yes :)
[14:54] <MrEikono> oh yeah, that thing lotuspsychje
[14:54] <MrEikono> sorry I took so long
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> vooze: not sure then, maybe try 14.04.2 with internet/updates during setup and nvidia-prime
[14:54] <MrEikono> I'm not really combining them though, I want it to be basically Ubuntu but with a windows _feel_.
[14:55] <MrEikono> like Ubuntu but with the start menu for ex.
[14:55] <MrEikono> (is that a fork or a remaster)
[14:55] <vooze> also it happens with noveau and nvidia driver. But since its in grub, it really cant use drivers right?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> MrEikono  MATE has that option
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: lol, why not setup just a windows theme then?
[14:55] <vooze> lotuspsychje, i did begin with 14.04.2 with internet updates, same result :/
[14:55] <MrEikono> lotuspsycheje how
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> vooze: i would try to remove your drivers, and install only nvidia-prime
[14:56] <MrEikono> MonkeyDust what's MATE
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> !theme | MrEikono
[14:56] <MrEikono> so which ones of those do I go to? lol
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> MrEikono  MATE is a DE like unity or lxde
[14:56] <MrEikono> ah okay
[14:56] <vooze> lotuspsychje, also intel driver?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> vooze: no intel drivers ok, just try a remove of nvidia card drivers, or switch to another from your list
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> vooze: in this state you can also try grub recoverymode/ fix broken packages
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> MrEikono: there is also playonlinux to run software/games on ubuntu, that your gf might feel comfortable with..
[14:58] <MrEikono> lmao not ex.
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> MrEikono  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-MATE-15-04-Lets-Users-Imitate-the-Look-of-Other-OSes-474480.shtml#sgal_2
[14:59] <MrEikono> I meant example xP
[14:59] <MrEikono> (playonlinux tho thanks *wink*)
[14:59] <vooze> lotuspsychje, don't really think switching drivers will help, since its been like that on 14.04 (with old nvidia driver) and 14.10 (with a bit newer) and 15.04 (with quite new)
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: nice find :p
[14:59] <SonikkuAmerica> !mate
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> vooze: alot of users come here with optimus issues on boot
[14:59] <SonikkuAmerica> (Derp)
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  i have 15.04 MATE as a vm :)
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> (vmware)
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> nicely
[15:00] <vooze> lotuspsychje, okay, i'll try. Thx :)
[15:01] <stef1a> i'm using ubuntu 14.10 and it sound doesn't play through browsers using flash. help?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> stef1a: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:02] <stef1a> lotuspsychje: no, doing that now
[15:02] <MrEikono> thanks for that link MonkeyDust
[15:03] <MrEikono> April 23rd, I am finding the stable release of that DE and installing it straightaway :3
[15:04] <SonikkuAmerica> MrEikono - why wait? http://ubuntu-mate.org or /join #ubuntu-mate
[15:04] <MrEikono> SonikkuAmerica thanks!
[15:05] <MrEikono> you guys have really helped out this morning ^^
[15:05] <stef1a> lotuspsychje: holy cow, it works. thanks so much!
[15:05] <MrEikono> so MATE is Ubuntu + GNOME huh? beautiful
[15:05] <stef1a> such a quick fix
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> stef1a: no sweat mate :p
[15:06] <MrEikono> how would I make the boot menu different with MATE though? I like it better on Ubuntu's purple :p
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> j #test
[15:06] <MrEikono> well *Ubuntu MATE
[15:09] <MrEikono> well I'm going to go now. Thanks for all your help MonkeyDust, lotuspsychje, others
[15:11] <KnightsOfNi> anyone using Ack?
[15:18] <KnightsOfNi> I am installing this: http://beyondgrep.com/install/ with apt-get install ack-grep - but it installs 1.92, why does it not install the latest version?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> !latest | KnightsOfNi
[15:19] <KnightsOfNi> ok
[15:31] <Mehrzad> When I try to install anjuta using the software center, it says "Failed to download package files". What should I do?
[15:32] <ObrienDave> !info anjuta
[15:33] <SonikkuAmerica> (Anjuta is the dev's girlfriend. Not even kidding.)
[15:33] <ObrienDave> Mehrzad, could be a mirror issue. try a different mirror
[15:34] <Mehrzad> ObrienDave: How can I change the mirror?
[15:34] <ObrienDave> or wait for the mirror to refresh
[15:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Mehrzad - Make sure the "universe" is enabled in "Softwre and Updates"
[15:34] <ObrienDave> and you can select a different mirror there also
[15:35] <Mehrzad> SonikkuAmerica: Where is "Software and Updates"?
[15:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Mehrzad - Search the Unity dash for it (do you use Unity?)
[15:35] <ObrienDave> i'm on Xubuntu, yours might be named differently
[15:36] <maurice_> hello
[15:36] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[15:36] <Mehrzad> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, but I can't find such thing as Software and Updates
[15:36] <SonikkuAmerica> ObrienDave - (in Xubuntu it's inside the Settings Manager)
[15:36] <KnightsOfNi> MonkeyDust, the problem is that clamscan won't run when it's not the latest version
[15:37] <ObrienDave> SonikkuAmerica, yes, i know. regular Ubuntu is named differently afaik
[15:39] <ObrienDave> Mehrzad, I don't use Unity (xfce). your sources manager in named differently
[15:40] <Appl3Kork> anyone have experience with mdadm? or raid?
[15:48] <floogy> Hi, I'm not able to get apt-file working https://bpaste.net/show/cb7fecc622d4
[15:50] <floogy> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[15:50] <floogy> ii  apt-file                  2.5.0ubuntu1
[15:51] <Pici> floogy: did you do what it said?
[15:51] <floogy> Yes, read the bpaste.
[15:51] <Pici> floogy: er.. right, sorry.
[15:51] <Pici> I didn't read what it said ;)
[15:52] <floogy> I guess that might be an issue with the sources of my provider.
[15:52] <cluelessperson> Anyone here have experience with server management?
[15:52] <Pici> floogy: Sounds like it.  I haven't had an issue with it in any of the installs I've done.
[15:52] <cluelessperson> I'm running into some things that I'm not familiar with
[15:53] <floogy> I didn't found anything on the net that would point me to the right direction. I also tried apt-file purge && apt-file update && apt-file find dig
[15:53] <oal> Does ufw work in openvz containers now?
[15:54] <ObrienDave> floogy, that "contents" file is not there.
[15:54] <ObrienDave> in any of the sub-directories
[15:54] <floogy> Yes, that brought me to the idea, that something is wrong with the repo of my ISP
[15:56] <ObrienDave> ok, you need to check with them. Trusty folders don't have it either. (was just checking)
[15:59] <floogy> ObrienDave, "Trusty folders"?
[15:59] <floogy> So apt-file is no longerr working for precise AND trusty?
[15:59] <floogy> Don't get it.
[16:00] <ObrienDave> i don't know. i was just following the URL in your paste
[16:00] <The0x539> users of tiling window managers, which do you prefer and why do you prefer it over the others?
[16:00] <ObrienDave> !best | The0x539
[16:00] <The0x539> ObrienDave: hence why I asked for a reason
[16:01] <The0x539> and preference
[16:01] <The0x539> not "what's the best tiling WM" :P
[16:01]  * ObrienDave thinks they got rid of WAY too many factoids
[16:01] <floogy> Ah, my provider don't have them, not for precice neither for trusty. - ok.
[16:03] <ObrienDave> The0x539, "reasons" are subjective to ones knowledge and experience. most people here will ignore such inquiries
[16:03] <The0x539> ObrienDave: and I'd take that into mind when formulating my own decision
[16:04]  * ObrienDave thanks whomever for the /ignore command
[16:04] <The0x539> ...
[16:09] <ramen69> noodles
[16:11] <pbx> my only options for getting lync video conferencing working are wync or a VM, right?
[16:14] <cluelessperson> Does anyone here have experience with server hardware?  I'm new to it.  The issue seems to be the admin configuration through KVM over IP.
[16:15] <cluelessperson> I goto 192.168.0.36  (management_ip) and get the web gui.   If I goto 192.168.0.254 (supposed to be the system)  I get the web gui still
[16:15] <cluelessperson> so I'm confused
[16:15] <cluelessperson> http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/server/ASMB7-iKVM/Manual/E8098_ASMB7_for_web.pdf
[16:16] <chrissso> is there anyone that knows how to set up ubuntu that it shuts down after x time of idle?
[16:17] <clmclm> Hello! Is there a easy way in gnome to deactivate search on desktop so shortcuts work fine?
[16:18] <MarconM> anyone use ltsp ?
[16:21] <ioria> MarconM  i did,once :)
[16:22] <MarconM> ioria: i did to
[16:22] <MarconM> did have problem with "Operation sustem not found"
[16:22] <MarconM> System
[16:22] <MarconM> on boot folder the file pxelinux.0 .. is not there
[16:22] <ioria> MarconM  .... o yes
[16:23] <MarconM> what i did ?
[16:23] <MarconM> if i isntall on 64 bits ... work perfect .. but 32 bits i got this error
[16:23] <MarconM> some files are missing
[16:23] <ioria> MarconM  .... it  means ,  asfar asi remember,that you client hardware it not configured  for lan boot
[16:23] <MarconM> yes
[16:23] <MarconM> it is ... its the same config
[16:23] <MarconM> i did 100 times
[16:24] <MarconM> edubuntu, ubuntu alternative 64 works
[16:24] <MarconM> but lubuntu kubuntu ubuntu server 32bits i got this error
[16:25] <ioria> MarconM  .... you try using a  cd  on thew client that enables  the lan  boot
[16:26] <ioria> MarconM  .... you can try using a  cd  on the client that enables  the lan  boot
[16:26] <MarconM> ioria: u dont understand .. is not the client
[16:26] <MarconM> when i run ltsp-build-client
[16:26] <ioria> MarconM  .... ohh
[16:26] <MarconM> inside the folder
[16:26] <cblokland> ey guys. I have a laptop with a AMD Radeon card and have connected 2 externel screens (total 3 screens). I have the weird problem that whenever I disconnect the hdmi + vga cable and connect it to some other screen and plug it back the 3rd screen over VGA is displayed as 'Unknown monitor' and only provided low resolutions
[16:27] <MarconM>  this folder /opt/ltsp/i386/boot
[16:27] <MarconM> some files are missing
[16:27] <MarconM> pxelinux.0 pxelinux.cfg
[16:27] <cblokland> Someone knows what is going on?
[16:27] <MarconM> is not there
[16:27] <cblokland> Help would be appreciated.
[16:29] <cblokland> Ctrl+Shift+T isn't working either and I see my windows are not themed as well....
[16:33] <MrElendig> edid over vga is horribly unreliable
[16:33] <MrElendig> bha he left
[16:46] <akiva-thinkpad> does ubuntu still do amazon tracking?
[16:47] <k1l_> not that i am aware of, i heard the query server was shut down, but didnt see something official there
[16:50] <OerHeks> akiva-thinkpad, you can disable the amazon stuff in systemsettings > privacy .. all i find is it will be removed with 15.04 http://www.pcworld.com/article/2840401/ubuntus-unity-8-desktop-removes-the-amazon-search-spyware.html
[16:50] <akiva-thinkpad> OerHeks, Yah I thought was going to be removed
[16:50] <akiva-thinkpad> thanks
[16:51] <OerHeks> Still i heard no-one about the lyrics and cover search seen as spyware to the music industry
[16:52] <sh1ny> earning money through open source = bad ! :D
[16:52]  * sh1ny hides
[16:53] <sh1ny> and tbh i was never bothered by the amazon search
[16:55] <bytetrial> listing files :)
[16:55] <bytetrial> listing files :)
[16:55] <bytetrial> listing files :)
[16:55] <bytetrial> listing files :)
[16:55] <bytetrial> listing files :)
[16:59] <jczxkvdxds> :)
[16:59] <jczxkvdxds> command ls
[16:59] <jczxkvdxds> fak
[17:00] <bytetrial> listing files :)
[17:00] <jczxkvdxds> command ls
[17:00] <bytetrial> listing files :)
[17:01] <jczxkvdxds> command mkdir
[17:01] <k1l_> bytetrial: stop that please
[17:01] <jczxkvdxds> wait
[17:01] <jczxkvdxds> im testing soft
[17:01] <k1l_> jczxkvdxds: no bot tests in here.
[17:01] <jczxkvdxds> why?
[17:02] <k1l_> !guidelines | jczxkvdxds
[17:02] <dsc_> !guidlines | dsc_
[17:02] <jczxkvdxds> i know
[17:02] <dsc_> !guidelines | dsc_
[17:02] <ObrienDave> jczxkvdxds, please use #test
[17:02] <jczxkvdxds> oki thanks
[17:02] <macpc03-lt> hi
[17:02] <jczxkvdxds> :)
[17:03] <jczxkvdxds> im writing trojan application which connect to irc channel
[17:03] <jczxkvdxds> and send keystrokes :D
[17:03] <jczxkvdxds> :))
[17:03] <dsc_> jczxkvdxds: get out of here with your skiddiecrap
[17:03] <dsc_> thank you
[17:04] <dsc_> kids these days 'huh
[17:04] <mcarolan> hi, i'm having some trouble with slow boots in xubuntu 15.04. looks related to swap partition configuration after running an upgrade. can anybody help? put info in a gist: https://gist.github.com/mcarolan/fd2964628b1b50563032
[17:05] <OerHeks> mcarolan, for support join #ubuntu+1 until vivid is released
[17:06] <mcarolan> ok, thanks
[17:09] <wesley9946> hi there, i cannot get any ubuntu 14.10 X server signal through my DVI cable any solutions?
[17:09] <ioria> cai i  run virtual  box (decently) with  less than 2  G  and  pentium  4?
[17:10] <ObrienDave> it will work. not sure about 'decently'
[17:10] <teward|web> ioria: depends on what you're running inside the virtualbox VM
[17:10] <teward|web> ioria: with low specs like that though 'decently' is questionable
[17:10] <ioria> teward|web,  windows  98 :-P
[17:10] <Neko`> Is there a way to use smartphone (android) as audio device on linux (mic and speaker) ?
[17:11] <teward|web> ioria: i wouldn't put any GUI on virtualbox in a system with those specs, not if you're wanting to use your computer and the VM at the same time
[17:12] <ioria> teward|web,  i did it...  the outcome was terible ...
[17:12] <wesley9946> bump
[17:12]  * ObrienDave has Win 3.11 in a VM ;P
[17:12] <teward|web> ioria: then you already know your answer - you may want to upgrade the system's specs if you plan on using virtualization - it's not resource-friendly
[17:12] <teward|web> (virualization, that is)
[17:13] <ioria> ObrienDave,  you are  awsome !!!
[17:13] <ioria> teward|web,  i know thanx
[17:14] <wesley9946> anybody?
[17:15] <wesley9946> i cannot get any ubuntu 14.10 X server signal through my DVI cable any solutions?
[17:16] <tannerste> Hello, I'm currently running Ubuntu Server 13.10 with Samba to share files betwen several Windows clients.  Unfortunately one of the Windows clients was infected with CryptoWall and corrupted all the files on the Samba share.  Any ideas on how i can recover previous versions of the corrupted files?
[17:16] <zykotick9> wesley9946: perhaps saying what graphics card you're using might help?  just a suggestion.
[17:16] <wesley9946> zykotick9: Intel 945GM 256 MB VRAM
[17:17] <wesley9946> inside of a Dell Inspiron 9400
[17:17] <OerHeks> tannerste, from a backup .. btw 13.10 is EOL, no heartbleed fix and such ...
[17:18] <tannerste> OerHeks, thanks.  Unfortunately my backups are performed nightly and the problem wasn't found until the new backups overwrote the good files.  I'm definitely changing how my bakcups work form here on out.
[17:22] <ioria> wesley9946,  what in  your  xorg.conf ?
[17:22] <wesley9946> ioria: hang on, getting it
[17:25] <ioria> wesley9946,  locate  xorg.conf
[17:30] <zykotick9> wesley9946: xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf _IF_ you have one, it's not there by default anymore...
[17:31] <MrElendig> wesley9946: what does xarndr say?
[17:31] <MrElendig> xrandr*
[17:35] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset
[17:36] <wesley9946> ioria: i cannot seem to find any "just" xorg.conf
[17:36] <ioria> wesley9946,  with  some numbers after ?
[17:36] <wesley9946> yup
[17:36] <atgnag> When there is package existing in two different ppas, how can I make apt prefer one ppa over the other on upgrade?
[17:36] <ioria> wesley9946,  good
[17:36] <wesley9946> and one which ends with .failsafe
[17:37] <ioria> wesley9946,  what  says section Device ?
[17:37] <wesley9946> ioria: hang on
[17:37] <derpingit> hi guys. i have a question . i've installed virtualbox with a windows 8 instance so that i can run some programs only i can run in windows.. i wanna do the same on a guest account, but i want the vm to autostart AND not allow the user to change virtualbox settings. is there a way to do this ?
[17:38] <Mousey> hi, where can i get a simple url for the latest release version of the ubuntu ISO?
[17:38] <NemesisD> stm retries aren't busy loops right? like if i do atomically $ check =<< readTVar someBoolTVar, it will suspend until something touches someBoolTVar right?
[17:38] <Mousey> so i can wget/curl it
[17:38] <NemesisD> whoops wrong channel
[17:40] <wesley9946> Identifier: "Intel
[17:41] <wesley9946> Driver: intel
[17:41] <ioria> wesley9946,  Options  ?
[17:42] <wesley9946> ioria: trying to SSH to my laptop rather than plugging the VGA cable (which is the only video cable which works atm)
[17:43] <Guest13498> how do i change my name? i'm using weechat
[17:44] <Tin_man> not sure about weechat, but all the ones i've used just type /nick newname
[17:45] <teward> Guest13498: they should all (weechat included) support /nick NEWNICK
[17:45] <teward> but that's a question for #freenode (general IRC suage questions)
[17:45] <Mousey> does anyone know where can i get a simple url for the latest release version of the ubuntu ISO so i can wget/curl it
[17:46] <Mousey> ?
[17:46] <teward> Mousey: releases.ubuntu.com - find the version you need there, right click and get the link
[17:46] <teward> Mousey: http://releases.ubuntu.com/utopic/ is your start point
[17:46] <teward> there's mirrors of it too, but that's the master
[17:46] <Mousey> teward: thank you very much
[17:48] <paravasta> Hello I installed Linux Mint on my Windows 7 PC, then Windows failed to boot anymore. Chatting with others on this channel, it was ascertained that my windows recovery partition had been over-written. So I purchased - at great cost - a windows recovery CD from ASUS, the maker of my laptop. When I insert the CD and restart the computer, I only have the options of booting into Linux. I can't find any way to get into bios to change the sett
[17:48] <paravasta> ings for the computer to be able to boot from the CD. When Windows was working it was an easy thing when starting the computer to press one of the "f" keys to get into setup. How can I do this from within Linux? Once I get Windows installed, I do intend to install Linux again as virtual machine. But for now I really need to wipe the hard drive to start over. Only, I don't see any way to do this from within Linux. I am not a techie, so I
[17:48] <paravasta> need instructions that are simple and easy for a newbie like myself to follow. Help! Save me!
[17:48] <wesley9946> ioria: drivers part: Section "Device"
[17:48] <wesley9946>     Identifier "intel"
[17:48] <wesley9946>     Driver "intel"
[17:48] <wesley9946>     Option "AccelMethod" "uxa"
[17:48] <wesley9946>     Option "Virtuals" "2"
[17:48] <wesley9946> EndSection
[17:48] <teward> !pastebin | wesley9946
[17:48] <teward> !mint | paravasta
[17:50] <ioria> wesley9946,  lspci | grep VGA ?
[17:51] <wesley9946> ioria: http://pastebin.com/N8YC5Xtx
[17:53] <rockstar_> what is the proper way to install opencv in Ubuntu, for python in Eclipse?
[17:53] <kantoka> My "Edit Connections" is greyed out after a 12.04 (64 bit desktop) update. How do I solve this? Help plz...
[18:00] <ioria> wesley9946,  this seemed to work  ...  but  it's  for  nvidia driver  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798451
[18:02] <wesley9946> no solutions for intel's?
[18:04] <ObrienDave> derpingit, you might try asking in #vbox
[18:05] <Luskus> hallo
[18:05] <Luskus> I have question
[18:06] <ObrienDave> !ask | Luskus
[18:06] <Luskus> my wife and I are getting a 19 year old au pair to help us with hus work
[18:06] <Luskus> is ok to ask to fuckk the au pair?
[18:07] <ramen69> rofl
[18:08] <ObrienDave> OMG
[18:14] <n-iCe> can the ubuntu iso, be used with dd to usb boot?
[18:14] <k1l_> n-iCe: yes
[18:15] <n-iCe> k1l_: thanks
[18:15] <ramen69> can you link me to dd ive never heard of it
[18:15] <k1l_> just make sure to dd onto sdb and not sdb2.
[18:15] <n-iCe> yes
[18:15] <k1l_> (when sdb is your usb drive)
[18:15] <n-iCe> ramen69: dd bs=4M if=/path/to/archlinux.iso of=/dev/sdx && sync
[18:15] <ramen69> oh cool ty :)
[18:16] <ramen69> til
[18:20] <serspan> t
[18:24] <tenguix> package libuuid1:amd64 2.25.1-3ubuntu4.1 cannot be configured because libuuid1:i386 is at a different version (2.25.1-3ubuntu4) --- What should I do here?
[18:30] <aliman> hi all
[18:32] <travnewmatic> so, not sure if anyone on here now was here yesterday when i was trying to multiboot my compy with both utopic and vivid using the same home folder
[18:32] <travnewmatic> it didnt work :D  indeed, different versions of config files was a problem
[18:33] <jul2000> hi
[18:33] <travnewmatic> hi jul2000
[18:34] <jul2000> Does any1 know how to turn an HTML5 based game into an ubuntu application that can be distributed on the "ubuntu store" ?
[18:34] <travnewmatic> i do not know :(
[18:34] <aliman> may i ask if is there any big differences between ubuntu unity and ubuntu gnome besides the design?
[18:34] <jul2000> idk
[18:34] <jul2000> I use both and both are fine
[18:35] <k1l_> aliman: unity uses compiz, gnome uses mutter.
[18:36] <tenguix> Can anyone help with this package conflict? package libuuid1:amd64 2.25.1-3ubuntu4.1 cannot be configured because libuuid1:i386 is at a different version (2.25.1-3ubuntu4)
[18:36] <aliman> k1l_, srry not used with those terms dunno what means
[18:37] <aliman> i am new with linux and i just started to learn things
[18:37] <jul2000> amd64 is found on 64bit distros and i386 is related to 32bit, that's all I know
[18:37] <k1l_> aliman: its the technic running in the background which draws your desktop
[18:39] <Seveas> tenguix: update the 32bit and 64 bit version at the same time, or get rid of one if you don't need both.
[18:40] <tenguix> aliman, the gnome desktop has been around for a while -- it's relatively lightweight and there are more smaller pieces to it (seems to be more configurable and shows up in a lot of other linux distributions).  Unity is a more unified desktop environment that in my opinion looks like OSX and has the "unity scope", which is like this fancy overlay thing.
[18:41] <tenguix> Seveas: what switch do I pass to apt/dpkg to remove the i386 arch?
[18:41] <jul2000> GNOME is preferable to build a macosx like config, I have found lately, because of cairo dock
[18:41] <Seveas> tenguix: apt-get remove --purge libuuid1:i386 (make sure that doesn't also want to remoe thing you'd like to keep)
[18:42] <k1l_> tenguix: aliman unity uses the same base (gnome3) like gome-shell (what people actually call gnome3). but neither of them are considered lightweight. see xfce or lxde for a lightweight desktop
[18:42] <viGtor_> Hi! you know how to disable bluetooth at startup? it is enabled by default at each startup and it's just so frustrating :S
[18:42] <tenguix> E: Unable to locate package libuuid
[18:42] <tenguix> I forgot that I was having that problem.
[18:42] <tenguix> Hmm.. that's not cool.
[18:42] <k1l_> tenguix: "apt-cache policy libuuid" in a pastebin
[18:43] <tenguix> N: Unable to locate package libuuid
[18:43] <tenguix> :|
[18:43] <k1l_> tenguix: "cat  /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin please
[18:43] <Seveas> tenguix: dpkg -P libuuid1:i386
[18:43] <tenguix> Ah, lol forgot the "1"
[18:44] <Seveas> :)
[18:44] <tenguix> Thanks
[18:44] <tenguix> I probably upgraded when I was running Steam or Skype
[18:45] <viGtor_> hi! is there an easy way to reduce adwaita title bar?
[18:46] <tenguix> jul2000: You can install cairo-dock with any DE
[18:46] <tenguix> Thanks guys. peace out!
[18:47] <viGtor_> ?
[18:47] <aliman> viGtor_, hi :) how are ya?
[18:47] <viGtor_> aliman: hey!
[18:47] <viGtor_> just working, i need a quick fix but don't find how :(
[18:47] <wesley9946> ioria: look what i found in dmesg | grep edid: http://pastebin.com/XL7Fuinv
[18:48] <jul2000> I only tested cairo on ubuntu and it requires to run in GNOME stuff, otherwise it runs with both the dock and the launcher (that refuses to stay hidden 100% of the time)
[18:49] <jonascj> Hi all. I use ubuntu 14.04 on my media center (display is a 46" TV at 3m distance), and I have increased the DPI using system settings. In the beginning things looked relatively good, but now all text is blown out of proportions. The window titles are cropped by 50% in height because the font is too large for the title bar.
[18:49] <jonascj> Lowering the DPI again does not change the font. What option might I change to change the system font size?
[18:51] <kokotakus> hi guys can someone help me please?  I am following this guide http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/qnap/ts-41x/install/
[18:51] <kokotakus> I am trying to run this script on my QNAP http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-armel/current/images/kirkwood/network-console/qnap/ts-41x/flash-debian
[18:51] <kokotakus> but I got this error when I run "sh flash-debian" http://pastebin.com/kafUhRe4
[18:51] <kokotakus> Is it due to encoding or something?
[18:51] <touil76> Hello. My friend, who has a laptop that runs ubuntu 14.04, has had a problem with it this morning. After a reboot, the screen of the laptop has remained black. I guess it's kernel related as we can get a proper boot using an ancient kernel.
[18:51] <jonascj> Hmm, unity-tweak-center seemed to do the trick
[18:52] <touil76> My question is : what is the best procedure to reinstall the latest kernel properly, and is this advised ? Thank you.
[18:52] <CptRageToaster> touil76: Compile from source, then run the install script
[18:52] <yeats> !mainline | touil76
[18:52] <CptRageToaster> It's not that complicated, as long as you aren't afraid of running a script or two
[18:52] <touil76> Too complicated. My friend is not able to do this.
[18:52] <jonascj> touil76: you should only install a new kernel if you need it. You risk getting an unstable system.
[18:53] <rzyz> hello, which package i must install to test qt creator with qt5?
[18:53] <rzyz> i install qtcreator, but i have qt4, not qt5 :/
[18:53] <thebestgirl|mobi> when I copy text it put linebreaks where the text wraps around
[18:53] <jonascj> touil76: a valid reason is "I want to try the new kernel for kicks", but then you should probably get down and dirty. Learn to compile and install
[18:53] <thebestgirl|mobi> any way to stop that?
[18:53] <kokotakus> can someone help me pls
[18:53] <touil76> I don't want to install a brand new kernel. It's just that the latest kernel installed can't boot properly. We are compelled to boot from an ancient one.
[18:54] <yeats> touil76: based on your symptoms, it sounds like the graphics driver isn't getting loaded in the new kernel
[18:54] <yeats> touil76: check the Xorg.logs
[18:54] <touil76> yeats: that's what I thought too. I guess we should reinstall the graphics driver somehow.
[18:56] <bprompt> thebestgirl|mobi:    come again?
[18:56] <touil76> yeats: where can he find the interesting xorg.log file when he has booted with an ancient kernel ?
[18:57] <yeats> touil76: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and similar
[18:58] <touil76> yeats : Ok, what should he look for in these logs ?
[18:59] <avid_fan> touil76: Is the laptop completely unresponsive with the newer kernel and black screen?
[19:00] <yeats> touil76: first off, anything with (EE) in the line
[19:00] <avid_fan> touil76: What I mean, is can you get to a terminal login with <CTRL><ALT>F1?
[19:01] <touil76> No I cannot get a terminal login with <CTRL><ALT>F1
[19:02] <jul2000> http://www.imagebam.com/image/ed2c26400704141
[19:02] <jul2000> This is my config for parents and normal people
[19:03] <touil76> I get : (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range
[19:03] <jul2000> :)
[19:03] <touil76> EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[19:03] <touil76> (EE) no screens found(EE)
[19:07] <ulrichard> I assume it's possible to mount an initramfs with a liveCD to repair a messed up script. But where can I find a howto?
[19:08] <SchrodingersScat> !chroot | ulrichard , this?
[19:08] <astair_44> @ulrichard: search for chroot
[19:08] <touil76> yeats: what should I do now ?
[19:09] <ulrichard> chroot is if I have it all in a directory. But first I need to mount it somehow, I assume.
[19:10] <ulrichard> The script I need to repair is already inside the initramfs.
[19:11] <yeats> touil76: I would google those errors and see if there are relevant results
[19:12] <ulrichard> ... or extract the initramfs into a directory, and pack it again after the script is fixed.
[19:12] <yeats> touil76: and add keywords for the video card model
[19:14] <jul2000> is there a way to save the current ubuntu config and turn it into a live USB ? or modifiy the live USB default config a make it stay modified ?
[19:14] <nvon> Hi. I wanted to migrate pdf2djvu from ubuntu to windows. Can anyone give me a general idea on how to do something like this?
[19:15] <bprompt> jul2000:    yes, did you burn the liveUSB to the stick with "persistent storage"?
[19:15] <ulrichard> The script I need to fix is for decrypting the root fs.
[19:15] <bprompt> hmmm
[19:16] <bprompt> jul2000:    anyhow, that's what "persistent storage" is for, to keep the changes after every session, you can even install, whatever in the session, and it'd be kept, with whatever settings you set it
[19:17] <jul2000> @bprompt
[19:17] <jul2000>  yes I did, but it didn't keep the changed desktop wallpaper when I rebooted on it after...
[19:17] <jul2000> is there an additional step to consider before restart ?
[19:18] <bprompt> jul2000:    should..... so.... not sure what you did or didn't do.... but I"ve done that quite a few times, even changed xorg.conf and it kept it like I set it
[19:18] <jul2000> ok so I probably failed to create the persistent storage properly then
[19:19] <bprompt> jul2000:      only consideration would be, let the system shutdown properly on its own processing, as opposed to have a force-poweroff by holding-down the power button
[19:19] <jul2000> I did
[19:19] <touil76> yeats : the only pages I found on google for my problem is debian related.
[19:20] <jul2000> I'll redo a stick to make sure
[19:20] <bprompt> jul2000:   well, that'd be the only consideration that I can think of, other than that, it should keep any changes you did, user or root changes
[19:21] <PrinceProspero> Hello, I have an integrated graphics chip (Intel HD Graphics 5500) and I just allocated 1024MB to it in the BIOS and that shows up fine in Windows but in Ubuntu I only see 256MB running 'lspci'. Is there additional tweaks that I need to do within Ubuntu?
[19:22] <jul2000> And when I do the install on HD from the USB, will it use the USB OS config or the default one as usual ?
[19:23] <micky219> can anyone suggest me pdf editor with almost similar editing functionality as that of Nitro..
[19:24] <bprompt> jul2000:     IIRC, it uses the usb stick, I don't recall to what extent.... but in my case, the one I noticed right off, was the xorg.conf, it used the one I had in the usb stick, IIRC it did apply most configuration changes in the stick
[19:24] <Mion> PrinceProspero: lspci doesn't show how much ram it really reserves
[19:24] <jul2000> awesome, thx
[19:25] <Mion> PrinceProspero: lspci just sees the product id and looks it up in a text file
[19:25] <Mion> PrinceProspero: basicly
[19:25] <PrinceProspero> Oh, how can I see how much it actually has then?
[19:26] <ulrichard> I think I found what I need : http://backreference.org/2010/07/04/modifying-initrdinitramfs-files/
[19:27] <jtinfors> Hi, how come there is no mit-scheme package for x64 on Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:29] <TheNumb> jtinfors: nobody packaged it I suppose.
[19:29] <FailBit> ohgod
[19:29] <FailBit> what package is ifconfig in
[19:29] <FailBit> D:
[19:29] <TheNumb> jtinfors: are you sure it's not available?
[19:30] <ObrienDave> !mit-scheme
[19:30] <ObrienDave> !info mit-scheme
[19:30] <jtinfors> TheNumb: My 14.04 machine only has package for i386..
[19:30] <TheNumb> True.
[19:30] <FailBit> oh
[19:30] <FailBit> derp
[19:30] <TheNumb> jtinfors: then install mit-scheme:i386
[19:30] <FailBit> it is in /sbin
[19:31] <TheNumb> jtinfors: fyi, there is an amd64 build in vivid ;p
[19:31] <jtinfors> TheNumb: I downloaded and compiled it so Im ok, just curious about why there's no package
[19:31] <TheNumb> jtinfors: maybe there were issues in amd64 build.
[19:32] <jtinfors> TheNumb: okidok, such is the way of the world. No on to actually playing around with the parenthesis! :)
[19:33] <TheNumb> :D
[19:33] <jtinfors> s/No/Now/
[19:33] <TheNumb> jtinfors: have fun (:
[19:33] <jamiedimon> Hi, I am unable to install an Ubuntu lib, poppler-glib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10708749/
[19:33] <jamiedimon> What is wrong with apt?
[19:33] <jamiedimon> Thanks.
[19:34] <yeats> jamiedimon: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[19:35] <ObrienDave> jamiedimon, did you update repos first?
[19:35] <jamiedimon> I did run apt-get update first
[19:35] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I have ubuntu server here, and it installs fine with auto network config, but once it's installed, it doesn't work
[19:35] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:     try  --->    dmesg | grep agp  <---
[19:35] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: looks like one of your ppas broke the dependency.
[19:35] <jamiedimon> Hmm, apt-get -f install libpoppler-glib-dev
[19:35] <yeats> jamiedimon: nope, just 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[19:35] <muhammedbariseki> hello
[19:36] <trism> jamiedimon: looks like you have a ppa you removed, what is: apt-cache policy libpoppler-glib8;
[19:36] <yeats> cluelessperson: what doesn't work?
[19:36] <cluelessperson> yeats, Network unreachable
[19:36] <jamiedimon> yeats: Still wonlt work.
[19:36] <cluelessperson> yeats, just installed 5 minutes ago, nic  p4p1
[19:36] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: remove that ppa https://launchpad.net/~coolwanglu/+archive/ubuntu/pdf2htmlex/
[19:36] <jhutchins> jamiedimon: Possibly it's in a repo you don't have configured.
[19:37] <baconbeckons> If i don’t set $PATH in my dot files, how is it set? Is there a global setting for $PATH?
[19:37] <TheNumb> You have it enabled in your system. It's breaking the dependencies.
[19:37] <jamiedimon> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10708766/
[19:37] <cluelessperson> yeats, Asus Server hardware.  I'm using KVM over ip.    The MAc address seemed to have changed during install
[19:37] <jamiedimon> Argh, will that remove the pdf2htmlEX command when I do that?
[19:37] <jamiedimon> (remove the ppa)
[19:38] <TheNumb> if you run ppa-purge it will delete every package from that repo
[19:38] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: why did you install it in the first place?
[19:38] <jhutchins> jamiedimon:  libpoppler-glib-dev
[19:38] <jamiedimon> TheNumb: In order to get that command.
[19:39] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: ask the maintainer to fix their packages.
[19:39] <yeats> cluelessperson: does the interface show up in 'ifconfig'?
[19:39] <jamiedimon> Running: ppa-purge https://launchpad.net/~coolwanglu/+archive/ubuntu/pdf2htmlex/
[19:39] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: that's not the proper way of doing it.
[19:39] <PrinceProspero> bprompt, It only gives me [ 0.361879] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[19:39] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: ppa-purge ppa:coolwanglu/pdf2htmlex
[19:40] <aliman> need some help pls
[19:40] <yeats> aliman: just ask your question - someone may be able to answer
[19:40] <jamiedimon> Okay, so meanwhile I'll need to rebuild that pdf2htmlex command from source.
[19:40] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:    hmmm..... maybe with -i   -> dmesg | grep -i agp  <-- I get more than that, like mappable, and aperture and total
[19:41] <coventry`> On my trusty box, having "deb https://dl.bintray.com/sbt/debian" in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sbt.list causes apt-get update to segfault.  I'm not the only one.  Who should I report this to?  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28543911/sbt-install-failure-with-aptitude-on-ubuntu-14-04
[19:41] <PrinceProspero> Its unable to find an AGP bridge
[19:41] <PrinceProspero> [    0.000000] AGP: No AGP bridge found
[19:42] <sifo> less xxx.txt |grep "search this expression"                                             -> would that work?
[19:42] <jhutchins> sifo: no.
[19:43] <jhutchins> grep expression file
[19:43] <sifo> jhutchins: how do i make it search for an expression
[19:43] <TheNumb> jhutchins: well, technically he could do that using less
[19:43] <TheNumb> less file
[19:43] <TheNumb> and then /expression_to_search
[19:43] <jhutchins> sifo: grep expression file
[19:43] <PrinceProspero> bprompt and i-nex shows the same: http://i.imgur.com/4ifZ49U.png (But I assume theyre running lspci to get their info?)
[19:43] <pavlos> baconbeckons, /etc/environment
[19:43] <jhutchins> TheNumb: You can specify the search expression on the command line as well, but not with grep.
[19:43] <sifo> can you put it using the example I gave?
[19:44] <PrinceProspero> could it be that Ive somehow the wrong drivers..?
[19:44] <bprompt> sifo:  you could just go inside "less"  and from there type  " / "   and then enter the string to find,    "n" for "next"
[19:44] <gp5st> hello. I'm having trouble finding the docs to force a user to reset their password via ssh. Specifically I want to do it for sftp users and I've seen there are methods that sftp clients support http://winscp.net/eng/docs/ui_authenticate#password_change but cannot figure out how
[19:44] <baconbeckons> pavlos: does root use /etc/environment?
[19:44] <jhutchins> grep "search this expression" xxx.txt
[19:44] <coventry`> Is there a better place to ask my question about apt-get segfaulting?  I would ask on #debian but the first thing they're going to do is say I need to repro it on a debian box.
[19:44] <pavlos> baconbeckons, it may use a subset ... I dont remember off hand
[19:44] <baconbeckons> pavlos: or does /etc/environment get used when you sudo?
[19:45] <n-iCe> Laptop Dell Latitude E6220 I7 2.8ghz,12.5,128gb Ssd,8gb Ram or Laptop Lenovo Ideapad Y510p I7 2.4ghz 8gb Ram 24gb Ssd + 1tb or Dell Core I7 Quad, 12gb Ram, Ssd 256gb or Asus K45v Core I7, 12gb Ram, 240 Gb ssd Hyperx
[19:45] <jamiedimon> Thank you, I got my pkg-config working!
[19:45] <TheNumb> coventry`: apt segfaulting? what?
[19:45] <coventry`> It seems like a potentially serious security hole.
[19:46] <pavlos> baconbeckons, sudo -i then echo $PATH gives me a subset of my $PATH
[19:46] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:    what about if you look for "gart" instead ?
[19:46] <coventry`> TheNumb: I'm getting the same error as reported in http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28543911/sbt-install-failure-with-aptitude-on-ubuntu-14-04
[19:46] <coventry`> "E: Sub-process https received a segmentation fault."
[19:46] <jamiedimon> No chance I will get the maintainer in time. This has to be deployed today. How difficult is it to build a lib like this for Ubuntu myself? https://github.com/coolwanglu/pdf2htmlEX
[19:47] <coventry`> TheNumb: Although for me it's happening in the apt-get update phase.
[19:47] <baconbeckons> pavlos: for me, echo ‘echo $PATH’ | sudo su gives me something different than what is set in /etc/environment and i can’t figure out how that is being set
[19:47] <PrinceProspero> bprompt I get the same as previously  [0.361879] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[19:47] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: all the required files are already there https://github.com/coolwanglu/pdf2htmlEX/tree/master/debian
[19:47] <OerHeks> coventry`, so you added a source without key ? those debian sources are not supported here btw
[19:47] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: just google how to build a package
[19:48] <akkad> some how apt-get -f install broke libc6 https://gist.github.com/e6f362663aaae8c7490e
[19:48] <OerHeks> !build
[19:48] <jamiedimon> TheNumb: And it's the same for Ubuntu, as Ubuntu is Debian?
[19:48] <OerHeks> !google | TheNumb
[19:48] <coventry`> OerHeks: Not asking for support, looking for a report channel.  If it's a known issue, that's great.
[19:48] <jamiedimon> TheNumb: Will definitely try Google.
[19:49] <TheNumb> OerHeks: please stop abusing the bot :(
[19:49] <OerHeks> TheNumb, then stop suggesting google, thanks.
[19:49] <jhutchins> TheNumb: There are also good practices specific to ubuntu that would not be generically found by google.
[19:50] <TheNumb> jhutchins: depends.
[19:50] <OerHeks> coventry`, most likely your issue is because of the missing encryptionkey
[19:50] <Mion> baconbeckons: sudo su makes no sense at all
[19:50] <jhutchins> TheNumb: No, is true.
[19:50] <tnkhanh> hi libnepomukwidgets4abi1 depends on itself
[19:50] <tnkhanh> can anyone check?
[19:51] <TheNumb> tnkhanh: which version of ubuntu?
[19:51] <jhutchins> TheNumb: Each distribution environment has it's own assumptions about how you will set up your builds, and working within them is a LOT easier than making your own arbitrary setup.
[19:51] <tnkhanh> TheNumb: 15.04 beta
[19:51] <TheNumb> tnkhanh: /j #ubuntu+1
[19:52] <TheNumb> tnkhanh: and no, it doesn't look like it depends on itself.
[19:52] <tnkhanh> TheNumb: hm ok
[19:52] <tnkhanh> how to check that
[19:54] <aliman> can any1 tell me do i get this when i want to boot and install ubuntu gnome? http://i.imgur.com/514gz5c.jpg?1?7003
[19:54] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/46197/how-to-check-video-memory-size    seems to differ, depending on what module is loaded, and that in turn depends on what videocard is installed
[19:54] <aliman> i downloaded the official version from ubuntugnome.org
[19:54] <TheNumb> aliman: did you use unetbootin?
[19:55] <aliman> TheNumb, what is that
[19:55] <TheNumb> aliman: how did you make the liveusb?
[19:55] <aliman> startup disk
[19:55] <TheNumb> ubuntu gnome 14.10?
[19:56] <aliman> yes
[19:56] <TheNumb> from ubuntu 14.04?
[19:56] <NightMonkey> Howdy. Silly question - is there a preferred method for setting what "localhost" means in /etc/hosts? I have a trusty box that comes with it undefined, is that expected?
[19:56] <PrinceProspero> Ok bprompt, well Ill just assume it actually has ability to go up to 1024MB since its allocated in the BIOS. Ill do some more searching though, thanks for your time
[19:56] <aliman> from ubuntu unity 10.04 yes
[19:56] <aliman> 14*
[19:57] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:    mine shows a total of 2gbs, with an aperture of 256mbs
[19:58] <TheNumb> aliman: there used to be a bug where usb-creator woudn't be able to create a liveusb with 14.10 or newer.
[19:58] <TheNumb> I'm not sure whether it has been fixed or not.
[19:59] <baconbeckons> pavlos: i figured it out, it was in /etc/sudoers. thanks for your help
[20:00] <aliman> so what should i do
[20:00] <pavlos> baconbeckons, yes, you were offine so I did not comment ... man sudoers has lots of stuff
[20:01] <baconbeckons> :)
[20:02] <TheNumb> aliman: there are other ways of creating a usb install drive.
[20:02] <TheNumb> aliman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:05] <EriC^^> aliman: dd is usually fail-proof
[20:06] <sdgdfgfdsg> you hack my server ok samp.bmhp.net:7777 hack me hehhe
[20:06] <sdgdfgfdsg> you hack my server ok samp.bmhp.net:7777 hack me hehhe
[20:06] <TheNumb> sdgdfgfdsg: no.
[20:07] <sdgdfgfdsg> you hack my server ok samp.bmhp.net:7777 hack me hehhe
[20:07]  * bprompt hands sdgdfgfdsg  a few cough drops, for his "hacking"
[20:07] <JuJuBee> I have a dual core 2.5 laptop with 6G ram.  Any real diff between using 32 vs 64 bit ubuntu?
[20:08] <aliman> didnt really understood what i need to do lolUnetbootin
[20:08] <aliman> If you're using UEFI, do not currently use Unetbootin with Debian iso files due to a bug.
[20:08] <aliman> Install Unetbootin from the repositories
[20:08] <aliman> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[20:08] <aliman> Start it, select an ISO file or a distribution to download, select a target drive (USB drive or Hard Disk), select persistence if you wish, then reboot once done. If your USB drive doesn't show up, reformat it as FAT32.
[20:08] <zykotick9> wow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick doesn't actually suggest using dd/cat/cp only 3rd party tools...
[20:08] <EriC^^> aliman: unetbootin is prone to failing too
[20:08] <EriC^^> aliman: use the dd method
[20:08] <TheNumb> aliman: don't use it.
[20:09] <TheNumb> it will fail because 14.04 has syslinux 5x. not 6.x
[20:09] <gr33n7007h> another vote for dd :)
[20:09] <Jakey2> how do i monitor my router network
[20:09] <Jakey2> on ubuntu
[20:09] <TheNumb> or even worse :|
[20:09] <TheNumb> it has syslinux 4 :D
[20:09] <bprompt> JuJuBee:     64 bit will install and use 64bit apps, for one, 64bits app, take advantage of the 64bit per cycle per core, whilst 32bit ones do not, simply fallback to 32bit
[20:13] <JuJuBee> bprompt: right, but will there be a noticeable performance gain?  Reason is there is 1 app I would like to be able to run (work with an interactive white board in classroom) that will not work under 64 bit.
[20:14] <aliman> ok i try with dd now. i hope i'll handle it it takes a while until i learn to use linux
[20:14] <EriC^^> aliman: use bs=4M so it finishes quicker
[20:14] <aliman> bs=4M?
[20:15] <EriC^^> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
[20:15] <Dewin|work> It tells dd to work with 4MB blocks, which is likely to more optimal for your hardware than whatever dd's default (512-byte blocks?) is.
[20:16] <TheNumb> cp *.iso /dev/sdX will also work
[20:16] <TheNumb> ;p
[20:16] <shovel_boss> i heard hackers use linux
[20:16] <Dewin|work> especially if you're working on a flash drive, where it's typically 4k blocks -- so if dd wants to write a 512-byte block, it requires the flash to internally read the entire 4k, change the relevant 512 bytes in memory, and write the entire 4k back... just in time to turn around and do it again.
[20:16] <shovel_boss> a hacker from anonymous told me to install ubunto
[20:16] <aliman> EriC^^, what is that going to do?
[20:16] <shovel_boss> i can become just like him
[20:16] <shovel_boss> please help me
[20:16] <shovel_boss> i want to be a hacker just like you guys
[20:16] <EriC^^> aliman: Dewin|work explained it
[20:17] <k1l_> shovel_boss: we dont support any of that in here. please stop asking
[20:17] <TheNumb> k1l_: I guess he's just a bad troll.
[20:17] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/32-bit-64-bit-operating-systems/     <----  memory handling per cycle, that should make a difference
[20:18] <shovel_boss> k1I_ let me join your cult!!111
[20:18] <octavian> will I lose java and other programs if I migrate from ubuntu 14.10 to lubuntu 14.04?
[20:19] <teward> octavian: you'd be doing a downgrade and a migration - you'll have to reinstall your programs, yes.
[20:19] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    so... in short, it does make a difference, since a 64bit will take advantage of the 64bit cpu allocation for memory and processing per cycle
[20:20] <aliman> dd: failed to open ‘/path/to/iso’: No such file or directory
[20:20] <JuJuBee> bprompt: someone else in linux community told me 32bit will handle 64G ram?
[20:20] <EriC^^> aliman: you have to put the path to the iso you downloaded
[20:20] <k1l_> aliman: change "/path/to/iso" to the actual path to where the linux is located
[20:20] <EriC^^> like /home/aliman/Downloads/lubuntu.iso
[20:20] <Dewin|work> and do likewise where /dev/sdX refers to where your flash drive is.
[20:21] <EriC^^> aliman: yes, type sudo parted -l , and get the name of your usb, sdb sdc etc.
[20:22] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    hehe,  the bit part, is just usually, how much info the cpu handles per cycle, a 1ghz cpu, means, 1billion cycles per second, a 1ghz 32bit cpu, means 1billion cycle, and 32bits, or 32/8  = 4bytes per cycle, 64bit, should be   64/8 = 8bytes per cycle
[20:22] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    but the OS and app need to "intune" with the bit handling, so, a 64bit OS with a 64bit, would, a 32bit one does not
[20:22] <EriC^^> aliman: dont get the name wrong, it will write to the hdd or whatever you tell it to
[20:22] <acz32> i'm new to linux. i read ubuntu is based on debian unstable. is there a reason why new software in ubuntu is released in update packs every 6 months as opposed to rolling-release?
[20:23] <k1l_> acz32: yes, because the user gets a stable base for 6 months (or even more for the LTS release)
[20:23] <JuJuBee> bprompt: thanks, but still doesn't tell me if I will notice a difference.  Guess I can just install a 32 bit version and mess with it.
[20:24] <JuJuBee> gtg
[20:24] <aliman> Model: USB FLASH DRIVE (scsi)
[20:24] <aliman> Disk /dev/sdb: 8020MB
[20:24] <aliman> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[20:24] <aliman> Partition Table: msdos
[20:24] <aliman> \
[20:24] <EriC^^> ok, so use /dev/sdb
[20:24] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    for the app to be able to use it, of course, the app must be running on a 64bit OS, and the app itself must be of 64bit archicture, and of course, the cpu must also be a 64bit cpu
[20:24] <acz32> k1l_: stable as in nothing changes, or as in more likely to not crash or have issues
[20:25] <k1l_> acz32: both
[20:25] <frugalhelp> Hi, is there any way to do a frugal install of an OS to an empty hard drive, i.e. one without any Linux distro already installed on it?
[20:25] <teward> acz32: 'stable' means both of those things :P
[20:25] <frugalhelp> All the instructions I see assume you already have Linux installed
[20:26] <k1l_> frugalhelp: of course you can. just boot the install media (usb or dvd) and use the installer
[20:26] <frugalhelp> I already tried unetbootin, but it didn't detect my external USB hdd
[20:26] <frugalhelp> And unfortunately Lubuntu install doesn't detect it either
[20:27] <aliman> if like this is ok then nothing happendsudo dd if=/home/aliman/Downloads/ubuntu-gnome-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[20:27] <k1l_> frugalhelp: you want to install onto that usb-disk or use that disk as install medium?
[20:27] <frugalhelp> If no one has any suggestions, I can at least try eSATA connection on another computer
[20:27] <EriC^^> aliman: what do you mean?
[20:27] <frugalhelp> Install onto USB-disk. And then be able to boot from that disk on various computers (thus the frugal install)
[20:27] <aliman> i wroted that in termnal and pressed enter. nothing happend
[20:28] <EriC^^> it just returned?
[20:28] <frugalhelp> In my case, I'm trying to get Parted Magic installed, but it would be useful for other OS's as well
[20:28] <EriC^^> aliman: can you paste the command and whatever followed?
[20:28] <k1l_> aliman: what means nothing happend? it doesnt show a progressbar. it just runs till its done
[20:28] <admin__> hello
[20:28] <frugalhelp> k1l_:  Tell you what, I'll try connecting with eSATA on the other computer, then I'll come back if it doesn't work
[20:28] <aliman> nothing happend means nothing happend. no progress bar nothing
[20:28] <Dewin|work> ZCZ32: Debian stable is the "This has been tested and in production for a long time, any possible issues have been worked out."  Debian unstable is newer software, decently tested but may still have some significant bugs (but likely fixed quickly.).  Debian testing is a mix between the wild west and 'here thar be dragons'
[20:29] <EriC^^> aliman: is it still running?
[20:29] <Dewin|work> acz32:  What I typed above, with less tab-completion fail.
[20:29] <EriC^^> or did you get the prompt back?
[20:29] <frugalhelp> k1l_: Thanks for the help, brb if it doesn't work
[20:29] <aliman> well now happend something after a while...
[20:29] <aliman> aliman@aliman-Lenovo-G50-70:~$ sudo dd if=/home/aliman/Downloads/ubuntu-gnome-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[20:29] <aliman> 249+1 records in
[20:29] <aliman> 249+1 records out
[20:29] <aliman> 1046478848 bytes (1,0 GB) copied, 110,396 s, 9,5 MB/s
[20:29] <aliman> aliman@aliman-Lenovo-G50-70:~$
[20:30] <k1l_> aliman: that is fine
[20:30] <D3F3F> hi ....
[20:33] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm getting pings from 40ms - 1000ms to my server on a linksys wireless router
[20:34] <aliman> is it possible to format usb in terminal?
[20:35] <TheNumb> aliman: of course.
[20:35] <TheNumb> aliman: but you might as well do that using gparted.
[20:36] <virgil> apt-get a new life
[20:36] <_X_C_V_B_> LOL
[20:36] <bprompt_> aliman:     to write the .iso to the usb, you don't need to format it first, you could simply have "dd" write it out, and it will overwrite anything that was there
[20:37] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm getting pings from 40ms - 1000ms to my server on a linksys wireless router
[20:37] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: cool.
[20:37] <k1l_> _X_C_V_B_: and where is the ubuntu issue with that?
[20:37] <TheNumb> Is that router your server?
[20:37] <TheNumb> or what
[20:37] <_X_C_V_B_> on a windows machine it's it's 40-50
[20:38] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: over wifi?
[20:38] <TheNumb> ethernet?
[20:38] <_X_C_V_B_> my laptop(ubuntu 14.04)  -> linksys -> internet -> server
[20:38] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: WIFI or ethernet?
[20:39] <TheNumb> ...
[20:39] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: cable connection?
[20:39] <_X_C_V_B_> on a different wireless router the ping isn't so high
[20:39] <_X_C_V_B_> WIFI
[20:39] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: there we go...
[20:39] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: which chipset?
[20:40] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: lspci | grep Network
[20:41] <_X_C_V_B_> TheNumb: 01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[20:41] <TheNumb> hmm, realtek
[20:43] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: and which kernel version?
[20:43] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: the thing is, the support for realtek's wifi chipset has been improving only recently.
[20:43] <aliman> bprompt_, so you mean if i use that dd command will wipe all 1st and then copy the file?
[20:44] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: and that's the exact issue I have been dealing with on that other laptop.
[20:44] <k1l> aliman: yes. if you use dd you got a cleared usb drive with only the exact copy from the .iso on it
[20:45] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: is you router's channel set to auto?
[20:45] <aliman> k1l, ok thx so i dont have to worry about what was there before
[20:45] <k1l> aliman: no
[20:45] <XCVB> fucking wifi
[20:45] <bprompt_> aliman:     pretty much, yes, "dd" does "raw copy", it writes at sector 0, down till it finishes, regardless of what's on sector 0 of the device/stick, if the iso is bootable, the sector 0 will contain all that and the copy will also be bootable, it could be a windows image, and "dd" will write it just the same, since it's "raw" and irrelevant of content specs
[20:45] <TheNumb> XCVB: <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: is you router's channel set to auto?
[20:46] <TheNumb> XCVB: also, which kernel version.
[20:46] <WillW> Hey guys, I'm trying to write a bash script to execute a program, but terminal is saying it isn't found. The file even has +x perms. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10709076/
[20:46] <aliman> ok thz
[20:47] <XCVB> TheNumb: kernal: 3.13.0-48-generic
[20:47] <aliman> cya in a few wanna try boot it
[20:47] <bekks> WillW: Whats the first line of that script?
[20:47] <WillW> bekks: #!bin/bash
[20:47] <bekks> WillW: Thats wrong.
[20:48] <bekks> WillW: Replace it with: #!/bin/bash
[20:48] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: I'd suggest upgrading the kernel to the one from Utopic.
[20:48] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[20:48] <bprompt_> aliman:       dd if=YOURIMAGE.iso of=/dev/YOURUSBSTICK   <--- no numbers, bear that in mind, so, say, your usb is /dev/sdb  then, just use /dev/sdb   NOT /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sbd2  or any numbering, just the device itself, /dev/sdb
[20:48] <WillW> LOL, tyvm bekks
[20:48] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: the support for realtek's wifi has been improving recently.
[20:48] <bekks> WillW: yw :)
[20:48] <delhivery_> i m not able to join django community here. Please help
[20:48] <bekks> delhivery_: Why not?
[20:49] <TheNumb> delhivery_: probably because you nickname is not registered
[20:49] <k1l> delhivery_: ask in #freenode if you got issues with non ubuntu channels on this network
[20:49] <TheNumb> delhivery_: I'm able to join the channel no problem.
[20:49] <delhivery_> how can i register my name on django
[20:50] <TheNumb> on freenode
[20:50] <bekks> !register | delhivery_
[20:50] <TheNumb> Yup, #django requires you to have a registered nickname +cnrt
[20:51] <XCVB> TheNumb: I swapped routers
[20:51] <XCVB> It's works better with a different router
[20:52]  * XCVB waits for _X_C_V_B_ to leave
[20:52] <TheNumb> XCVB: is the wifi channel on your router set to auto?
[20:52] <bekks> XCVB: If it is registered, just ghost it.
[20:53] <XCVB> TheNumb: how do I tell?
[20:53] <TheNumb> It used to work better if it's not set to auto on my realtek wifi card.
[20:53] <XCVB> what?
[20:53] <TheNumb> XCVB: check your settings in the control panel.
[20:53] <XCVB> TheNumb: which one
[20:53] <TheNumb> XCVB: router's
[20:55] <_X_C_V_B_> TheNumb: I swapped routers so yeah
[20:55] <_X_C_V_B_> Now I 40ms -100 ms
[20:56] <delhivery_> i already have a registration with nickname ajay2611, but not able to enter hexchat with that nickname. Please help
[20:56] <ParSalian> try #hexchat
[20:56] <TheNumb> delhivery_: ajay2611 is connected right now
[20:57] <delhivery_> !register | delhivery_
[20:57] <TheNumb> You'd have to kick the ghost nickname.
[20:57] <EriC^^> delhivery_: try /nickserv ghost ajay2611 <password>
[20:58] <xinobrax> Hi, I'm currently using Ubuntu Gnome 15.05....for some reason it keeps removing Krita!!! I can install it and it runs fine...and a few minutes later it's gone....what the...?
[20:58] <xinobrax> *15.04 sry
[20:58] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1
[20:58] <xinobrax> ubottu: thx
[20:58] <xinobrax> -.-
[20:59] <daftykins> tee-hee
[20:59] <TheNumb> :DDD
[20:59] <tafat> :)
[21:02] <delhivery_> Eric^^: my nickname is already in use and now it's ghosted. what should i do
[21:02] <EriC^^> delhivery_: /nick ajay2611
[21:02] <delhivery_> its saying already in use
[21:03] <EriC^^> did it say it ghosted it?
[21:03] <delhivery_> yes
[21:03] <k1l> delhivery_: talk to #freenode for issues with freenode. they can explain and sort that
[21:03] <TheNumb> ^
[21:03] <delhivery_> ok
[21:03] <EriC^^> delhivery_: do you want to use it? or just join the channel?
[21:03] <teward> EriC^^: they just left
[21:04] <sifo> scp file.txt user@host.com:/home/usersafio
[21:04] <xinobrax> btw, why is Natron not available in the official ubuntu repository? :/
[21:04] <sifo> is that correct use of scp?
[21:04] <TheNumb> sifo: should work
[21:04] <EriC^^> sifo: yeah
[21:05] <ajay2611> jdsfls
[21:05] <ajay2611> join #django
[21:05] <loulis> Hello.  Can someone help me with video drivers?
[21:05] <TheNumb> loulis: probably.
[21:06] <ajay2611> can someone help me joing django community here.. /join #django is not working for me
[21:06] <EriC^^> ajay2611: you have to identify, /nickserv identify <password>
[21:06] <k1l> ajay2611: last time now: please ask in #freenode
[21:07] <sifo> TheNumb: EriC^^ how do I specifcy port'
[21:07] <Pici> xinobrax: Probably because no one has packaged it for Debian or Ubuntu
[21:07] <EriC^^> sifo: -p <port>
[21:07] <sifo> EriC^^: but where
[21:07] <EriC^^> sifo: sorry -P
[21:08] <loulis> ok my system.  Lenovo g700. Ubuntu gnome 14.10 install the proprietary drivers for nvidia and it gives me a login menu andf when i hit the psw freeze and it is like broken screen
[21:08] <EriC^^> sifo: scp -P <port> <file> user@host:/path
[21:10] <CrowX-> in the live cd iso, how can I access the live cd's system(files and directories) without booting from it?
[21:10] <CrowX-> I extracted the .iso
[21:10] <EriC^^> CrowX-: how did you extract it?
[21:10] <CrowX-> but I can't find the system snapshot
[21:11] <CrowX-> EriC^^, right click and extract here :)
[21:11] <CrowX-> I can see a bunch of files like boot EFI casper etc. etc.
[21:12] <loulis> (loulis) ok my system.  Lenovo g700. Ubuntu gnome 14.10 install the proprietary drivers for nvidia and it gives me a login menu andf when i hit the psw freeze and it is like broken screen
[21:12] <CrowX-> but I need to access the root ones, i.e. mainly 'lib'
[21:13] <loulis> help please? Someone?
[21:14] <zykotick9> CrowX-: could this be an XY-problem?  What are you trying to do?  What do you want off of the LiveCD?
[21:14] <loulis>  :)
[21:15] <loulis> 13,0 my system.  Lenovo g700. Ubuntu gnome 14.10 install the proprietary drivers for nvidia and it gives me a login menu andf when i hit the psw freeze and it is like broken screen
[21:16] <zykotick9> !patience | loulis
[21:17] <CrowX-> zykotick9, I want the modules.alias file :)
[21:18] <loulis> . Oh sorry..  I havent chat gor years and i saw my message going up and sent it again so some one could see it.  I wont repeaat that.  I did my search alreeady and i hope that someone give me the solution that i didnt find...  Thank you..
[21:19] <daftykins> loulis: what do you mean 13,0 ?
[21:20] <loulis> Thats nothing. Trying to change the color here.
[21:21] <loulis> :p
[21:21] <frib> I seem to have messed up my grub installation and now get a grub prompt when i boot my ubuntu installation.  How can I fix this? thanks
[21:21] <EriC^^> !grub
[21:21] <daftykins> so glad colours are banned.
[21:22] <EriC^^> they are? hmm
[21:22] <mcphail> loulis: It would be more helpful to explain your problem clearly. Try to rephrase your question in proper English or ask in an ubuntu subforum for your native language.
[21:23] <EriC^^> hmm
[21:23] <Bashing-om> CrowX-: Maybe a better option: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot ; Boot the .iso from grub .
[21:23] <Jakey2> how do i monitor my home network traffic on ubuntu
[21:24] <EriC^^> Jakey2: wireshark?
[21:26] <CrowX-> Bashing-om, can you instead upload your modules.alias if you have a fairly new kernel version?
[21:28] <Pooterbear> help
[21:29] <azizLIGHT> anyone use caffeine and watch flash videos?
[21:30] <azizLIGHT> caffeine works for youtube but not other flash sites like twitch?
[21:30] <frib> im trying to reinstall grub and get this error: Warning: this gpt partition label contains no block list embedding won't be possible, will not proceed with blocklists
[21:30] <EriC^^> frib: are you booted in uefi mode? type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[21:31] <loulis> Ok i have installed ubuntu-gnome 14.10 on my laptop (lenovo g700). In the additional drivers section in system settings i choose to use the driver nvidia-331.  When i did it and restart the system a blank screen appeared and i could do nothing.  I hit ctrl alt f1 and i tried to remove it and install again the free driver nouveau.  I found the solution searching in ububtu forums.  After that i restarted and it shows me a login screen (a 
[21:31] <daftykins> !ask | Pooterbear
[21:31] <frib> EriC^^, cannot access
[21:31] <Pooterbear> i tried installing google earth .deb, x64
[21:31] <Pooterbear> when i open it in software center, i get this error
[21:31] <EriC^^> frib: doesn't exist or cannot access?
[21:31] <frib> EriC^^, because no such file or directory
[21:32] <Pooterbear> Dependency is not satisfiable: ia32-libs
[21:32] <EriC^^> ok you're booted in legacy mode
[21:32] <frib> EriC^^, i still don't know the difference
[21:32] <EriC^^> !uefi
[21:32] <EriC^^> frib: reboot in uefi mode
[21:32] <virgil> has anyone any experience with irssi?
[21:34] <bekks> !ask | virgil
[21:34] <frib> EriC^^, how can i do that if my grub doesn't work? i had to boot this partition off a persistent usb
[21:35] <EriC^^> frib: boot the usb in uefi mode
[21:35] <frib> EriC^^, how?
[21:35] <EriC^^> frib: hold on, have you mounted your installation?
[21:35] <frib> EriC^^, i booted the installation on my main disk using the grub from the usb
[21:35] <virgil> I am having trouble getting onto a server using irssi as the irc client, can anyone help?
[21:36] <EriC^^> frib: oh ok
[21:36] <daftykins> virgil: likely you're connecting to the wrong hostname+port, read up whatever servers details it is to check.
[21:36] <EriC^^> type ls /boot/efi
[21:36] <frib> EFI
[21:37] <EriC^^> ok so you're using uefi
[21:37] <EriC^^> you're not booted in uefi mode though
[21:37] <frib> i believe you
[21:37] <cxdvty> Is Ubuntu touch possible on windows phone
[21:37] <EriC^^> frib: try booting the usb alone in uefi mode
[21:37] <k1l> cxdvty: if the phone is capable of running other OSs. but better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[21:38] <EriC^^> and then chroot
[21:38] <virgil> i will thanks! whenever i connect to say irc.freenode.org it will say my nick is in use and if i try to register a new one it says my name is already in use no matter what i type
[21:38] <frib> EriC^^, ok
[21:38] <k1l> virgil: then choose a different unique nickname.
[21:39] <virgil> Ive tried registering a new one
[21:39] <k1l> virgil: and if you are connected with virgil right now you cant use virgil on the other client at the same time
[21:39] <TurtleDan> Has anyone had freezes usin FireFox?
[21:39] <rebs> everyone has
[21:39] <TurtleDan> along with other programs and such.
[21:39] <k1l> TurtleDan: start firefox from a terminal and see what errors it brings up in there
[21:40] <virgil> thanks!
[21:40] <TurtleDan> I was havin freezes, removed firefox and so far no freezes.
[21:40] <cxdvty> Is Ubuntu touch possible on windows phone
[21:40] <cxdvty> ok thank you k1l
[21:40] <k1l> cxdvty: i answered that
[21:40] <frib> EriC^^, so i need to mount sys proc and dev then chroot ?
[21:40] <cxdvty> k1l I accidentally hit up arrow and it sent again
[21:40] <EriC^^> frib: yeah and /dev/pts and /run
[21:41] <EriC^^> won't hurt
[21:41] <frib> so for example: mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/pts ?
[21:41] <EriC^^> frib: also the efi partition at /boot/efi
[21:41] <TurtleDan> k1l I can't because I removed it.
[21:41] <frib> or /mnt/dev/pts rather
[21:42] <EriC^^> frib: mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts
[21:42] <frib> and do that for /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run and /boot/efi ?
[21:42] <frib> then chroot and sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[21:42] <k1l> TurtleDan: ok, than it doesnt make sense to ask questions about it since we will not fix there anyway :)
[21:42] <EriC^^> no, mount /dev/sdxY /mnt/boot/efi
[21:43] <frib> oh ok
[21:43] <TurtleDan> I targeted firefox because everytime I ran it, it not only seemed to slow the pc the longer I ran it, but also the longer it was on the more memory was gettin taken away.
[21:43] <frib> then where do I chroot into?
[21:44] <EriC^^> chroot /mnt
[21:44] <frib> ok thought so
[21:44] <EriC^^> then grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub
[21:45] <frib> ok brb
[21:47] <azizLIGHT> how do you deal with the screensaver turning on when watchign full screen video
[21:48] <azizLIGHT> i have caffeine but it doesnt always work and its annoying cause i have keep typing my password and then moving the mouse around
[21:49] <sheap> I have an HP desktop but grub install always fails because "grub-install: error: cannot open `/dev/md126': No such file or directory." does anyone know why grub wont install regularly? (besides the fact that that file doesn't exist)
[21:49] <Arrick> in xubuntu how do I make it where when I drag a window to the left or right, it will snap to half the screen, on the left or right? or snap to corners?
[21:51] <rebs> Arrick,  it should be in settings ->appearance->behavior
[21:52] <eb0t> does anyone here use xmonad
[21:52] <rebs> Arrick,  i lied- its settings ->displays ->stickyedges
[21:53] <Arrick> nope
[21:53] <Arrick> not in xfce anyways
[21:53] <rebs> its ubuntu settings
[21:53] <rebs> sry idunno about xubuntu
[21:55] <le_pig> Arrick: does this work for you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/483341/how-to-tile-window-by-mouse-to-left-right-edge-in-xfce-like-in-unity
[21:56] <Bashing-om> sheap: "md126" = multi disk = raid ??
[21:56] <Arrick> thanks le_pig that worked
[21:57] <sheap> Bashing-om: yea it has something to do with raid...I want to preserve the raid but install grub but grub can't install
[21:57] <le_pig> Arrick: I'm glad. I was actually wondering the same thing and I just learned as well. :)
[21:57] <frib> Eric^^ what should i mount on /mnt?
[21:58] <frib> Because it's remind me /mnt/dev doesn't exist and i thought the /dev/sdX went on /mnt/boot/efi
[21:58] <frib> It's telling me*
[22:00] <Arrick> /dev/sd* should be there frib
[22:02] <frib> Arrick it's asking for file type
[22:02] <iampoz> hi guys, I am having issues running a scrip on a usb drive. it is moutned any everything. I open the terminal up in the folder and type this ./start.sh but it says I dont have permissions to do that. so I am like yeah I do, and I go all sudo chmod +x start.sh and then retry the last command and no difference
[22:03] <knob> iampoz, what commands are inside the script?
[22:04] <knob> Guys, question... I don't know what update go I recently installed in my 14.10 setup... now my dual-monitor vid card only displays one monitor.  Any ideas what I can check?
[22:04] <iampoz> lots I guess, I can put it into paste bin for you if you want.. it is the game pillars of eternity from the gog.com website
[22:05] <knob> I confirmed both monitors are working, both cables are working... Ubuntu boots up and loads with one monitor connected... and it loads up and works with the other monitor connected.   Yet, when both are connected... nothing.
[22:05] <Bashing-om> iampoz: Are you cd'd (PWD) to the location of the target file ? as the './' directs, this directory right here .
[22:05] <knob> Any idea if it could be an update that I ran?
[22:05] <frib> I had a grub installation with efi boot and apparently i messed it up and can't figure out how to fix it can anyone help? Thanks so much
[22:05] <iampoz> they support linux so I was like, right on! and tryed it out. it was working fine last night but then I moved it onto a usb drive to save space and now I can not get permissions on it
[22:05] <EriC^^> frib: did you chroot?
[22:06] <acz32> if i install ubuntu and select the option to encrypt with LVM, later on in the installer when i am creating a user, it asks if i want to encrypt my home folder. should i select that or is it redundant? why is it asking again.
[22:06] <knob> acz32, additional security?
[22:06] <iampoz> yes I am in the correct directory
[22:06] <acz32> knob: how is it additional security? it's not. home directory is created under /, which was encrypted in a prior step
[22:06] <frib> Eric well i realized that you said to mount /dev/sdxY on /mnt/boot/efi
[22:07] <acz32> so it's a bit confusing
[22:07] <frib> And i cant mount the other directories without first mounting a partition on /mnt which i thought was supposed to be /dev/sdxy
[22:08] <iampoz> root@PimpTop:/media/poz/Data/Games/Pillars of Eternity# ./start.sh
[22:08] <iampoz> bash: ./start.sh: Permission denied
[22:08] <frib> What should i mount to mnt?
[22:08] <iampoz> I can put the script into a pastebin if that might help
[22:09] <frib> Eric^^ ?
[22:09] <EriC^^> frib: your installation's partition
[22:09] <EriC^^> "/"
[22:09] <frib> Ok so /dev/sda3
[22:09] <EriC^^> do you have any other partitions? /var etc. ?
[22:10] <frib> Yes i believe i have a bit partition
[22:10] <EriC^^> what's that?
[22:11] <frib> An efi partition
[22:11] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:11] <frib> So I'm assuming that comes into play here somewhere
[22:11] <EriC^^> yes mount that to /mnt/boot/efi
[22:11] <iampoz> sooo is it like a normal thing to not be able to run scrips off of a mounted usb drive?
[22:11] <frib> Ok
[22:12] <EriC^^> iampoz: it depends if you mounted it with noexec
[22:12] <EriC^^> i think
[22:12] <EriC^^> iampoz: what's going on?
[22:13] <frib> Eric I chroited in.  Where should i install grub to?
[22:13] <EriC^^> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[22:13] <iampoz> Not sure if i mounted it with noexec... I did not intentionally anyways
[22:14] <EriC^^> iampoz: type bash /path/to/script.sh
[22:14] <iampoz> I am trying to run a scrip called start.sh but it says I do not have permissions, ever after I do this sudo chmod +x start.sh
[22:14] <frib> It says embedding isn't possible again
[22:14] <EriC^^> frib: type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[22:15] <frib> No such file
[22:15] <EriC^^> frib: you need to boot the usb in uefi mode
[22:15] <frib> Im booted on live CD at the moment
[22:15] <iampoz> root@PimpTop:/media/poz/Data/Games/Pillars of Eternity# bash /path/to/start.sh
[22:15] <iampoz> bash: /path/to/start.sh: No such file or directory
[22:15] <iampoz> like that?
[22:15] <frib> I don't know how
[22:15] <iampoz> oooh, never mind, i see what you mean
[22:15] <EriC^^> iampoz: you need to replace /path/to/start.sh with the path you have
[22:16] <iampoz> lol yes, I got that
[22:16] <EriC^^> iampoz: if you're in the dir, just type bash start.sh
[22:16] <knob> Guys, if I run lspci | grep VGA,  I get both graphics cards listed... yet I am only getting a display out of one monitor...
[22:16] <knob> Any... idea what could be going on?
[22:17] <frib> Eric i think the USB installation is an old version of ubuntu without efi capability
[22:17] <EriC^^> frib: try sudo modprobe efivars
[22:17] <EriC^^> frib: which ubuntu version is it?
[22:17] <iampoz> Thanks EriC^^, I got a different error, this might help me track down where I do not have permissions.... I know there is a way to add it to all files in a directory, how do I do that?
[22:18] <frib> Precise
[22:18] <EriC^^> frib: that has uefi
[22:18] <frib> Modprove failed
[22:18] <EriC^^> iampoz: you mean you want to mount it with version permissions?
[22:18] <EriC^^> *certain
[22:18] <frib> Sorry for typos I'm on cell phone
[22:19] <EriC^^> frib: ok, try pressing esc when the pc boots and choose boot options and choose uefi usb, if that doesn't work check the bios for boot options
[22:19] <Arrick> acz32, it is basically encrypting the drive, and then encrypting your home directory per user
[22:19] <EriC^^> make sure uefi is selected
[22:20] <frib> F9 boot device options
[22:20] <iampoz> Eric^^, no I want to change all the files inside of the directory to have executable permissions.
[22:20] <frib> Now there is an option for various disks or not from efi file
[22:20] <frib> Boot* from
[22:20] <EriC^^> iampoz: chmod -R +x /path/to/dir
[22:20] <EriC^^> it's recursive
[22:20] <iampoz> ah, I see. Thank you
[22:21] <sifo> http://technicalpcstuff.blogspot.com/2015/03/linux-permissions-examples.html
[22:21] <EriC^^> frib: ok, try selecting uefi usb
[22:22] <knob> Any idea what I can do with these two graphics cards?
[22:22] <azizLIGHT> how do you deal with the screensaver turning on when watchign full screen video
[22:22] <knob> Or how can I see what was... installed?   What... what to do?
[22:22] <azizLIGHT> i have caffeine but it doesnt always work and its annoying cause i have keep typing my password and then moving the mouse around
[22:23] <frib> Eric there's nothing that says uefi USB
[22:23] <EriC^^> frib: what happens when you boot right now? grub prompt?
[22:23] <frib> Yes
[22:23] <EriC^^> ok try booting from there
[22:24] <frib> With commands?
[22:24] <EriC^^> hold on
[22:24] <EriC^^> first get your installation's uuid
[22:24] <frib> OK
[22:26] <frib> Got it
[22:26] <EriC^^> ok go to the grub prompt
[22:26] <frib> OK three
[22:26] <frib> There
[22:27] <EriC^^> type insmod part_gpt
[22:27] <frib> Done
[22:27] <EriC^^> then insmod ext2
[22:27] <frib> Check
[22:28] <EriC^^> set root='hd0,gpt3'
[22:28] <frib> OK
[22:28] <EriC^^> type ls /
[22:28] <EriC^^> is your installation there?
[22:29] <frib> Unknown file system
[22:29] <EriC^^> ok try ls -l
[22:29] <frib> Nothing
[22:29] <EriC^^> ok
[22:29] <EriC^^> try ls (hd0,gpt1)
[22:30] <EriC^^> is that your efi dir?
[22:30] <frib> File system is unknown
[22:30] <jamesleimer> hello
[22:30] <frib> Sda1 is my efi partition it's vfat and sda3 is my main partition ext4
[22:31] <frib> The drive is hd1
[22:32] <frib> I set root appropriately and now can Ls /
[22:32] <frib> For my installation partition
[22:32] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:32] <EriC^^> great
[22:32] <frib> So now?
[22:33] <EriC^^> type linux /boot/vmlinuz-3........
[22:33] <EriC^^> type linux /boot/vmlinuz-3........ root=UUID=<your installation's uuid>
[22:34] <EriC^^> frib: type your kernel's name
[22:34] <frib> Vmlin not found
[22:34] <kSudo81282> Cryptsetup is telling me it failed with a bad password of option. Command line is saying No key available for this passphrase. Any ideas?
[22:34] <EriC^^> type vmlinuz and press tab a couple times
[22:34] <frib> Oh it's an abbreviation
[22:35] <jamesleimer> ksudo.. did you write the key down when you set it up?
[22:35] <frib> Generic or generic.efi. signed
[22:35] <kSudo81282> Searched google and some reference the keyboard layout causing problems
[22:35] <EriC^^> generic.efi.signed
[22:35] <kSudo81282> no sure.
[22:36] <kSudo81282> I ran bleachbit and removed some localizations and after that will not accept passphrase
[22:36] <jamesleimer> relatively new to linux, not sure if theres a way to fix it
[22:37] <kSudo81282> anyone know a way to check what keyboard layout is being booted i wonder if that could be my problem as its referenced in many articles
[22:37] <frib> Eric^^ OK
[22:38] <frib> Next?
[22:38] <EriC^^> frib: type initrd /boot/initrd.....
[22:38] <jamesleimer> couldnt you use the install disk to change or fix installation
[22:38] <frib> No server is specified
[22:39] <kSudo81282> not sure I creating a startup disk so well see what happens
[22:39] <theblindghoulie3> i finally got irssi working!!
[22:40] <EriC^^> frib: did you add the root=UUID=.... part?
[22:40] <frib> Yes
[22:40] <EriC^^> after linux /boot/vmlinuz..
[22:40] <EriC^^> ok
[22:40] <EriC^^> type search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root <your installation's uuid>
[22:40] <adam_289> connect #xlcteam
[22:42] <frib> Unspecified search type
[22:44] <EriC^^> frib: the first error means the kernel should be loaded i think
[22:45] <EriC^^> frib: try typing linux /boot/vmlinuz.... root=UUID=.... make sure the file exists
[22:45] <frib> All on one line?
[22:45] <EriC^^> yes
[22:48] <monojin> I fear I may have gone overkill on the swap partition on my bf's install; his dad is an ancient ITer and recommend "three to four times the internal memory"
[22:48] <frib> How do i make sure it exists?
[22:48] <EriC^^> frib: ls /boot
[22:48] <monojin> is 20GB of swap memory ridiculous?
[22:48] <frib> OK done
[22:48] <daftykins> monojin: yes
[22:49] <daftykins> monojin: if it's a laptop, match system RAM so hibernate and so on can work
[22:49] <EriC^^> frib: type boot
[22:49] <ObrienDave> monojin, only allocate SLIGHTLY more than RAM for swap
[22:49] <frib> Ok it booted
[22:50] <EriC^^> frib: ok
[22:50] <EriC^^> update-grub time
[22:50] <monojin> ObrienDave, daftykins: are there negative effects aside from the wasted space?
[22:50] <EriC^^> might as well grub-install too
[22:50] <frib> That's it?
[22:50] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:50] <daftykins> monojin: yes, wasted space ;)
[22:50] <frib> I could have done this all along?
[22:50] <rww> monojin: no
[22:51] <monojin> that's a relief
[22:52] <ObrienDave> monojin, only wasting drive space
[22:52] <frib> Eric^^ how can i skip the grub menu?
[22:52] <k1l> monojin: swap is really really really slow.
[22:52] <disappearedng> Hey anyone knows how to do this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29357110/gnu-screen-sending-0xf0-0xf1-to-device
[22:53] <ObrienDave> did k1l mention really? ;P
[22:53] <EriC^^> frib: remove the # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[22:53] <monojin> last time bf's dad used linux was in the 90s, and it was "zoossy linux"
[22:53] <ObrienDave> suse?
[22:53] <EriC^^> in /etc/default/grub , then update-grub
[22:53] <monojin> ObrienDave: yes
[22:53] <gameking513>  How do i remote shutdown a windows pc from ubuntu?
[22:53] <VeiledSpectre> Hello everyone - general question - when a kernel module is built from source - where does it get the string that indicates which kernel it was built against?
[22:54] <frib> Eric is already gone
[22:54] <frib> But it just sits at the menu indefinitely
[22:54] <bprompt> monojin:    depends on how much is there in physycal ram, and depends on how much is used in general
[22:54] <k1l> monojin: that is old "rule of thumb". but today you buy more ram and try not to use swap, because ddr3/4 ram is so much faster than old hdds
[22:55] <EriC^^> frib: what's timeout set to?
[22:55] <frib> 0
[22:56] <EriC^^> and grub hidden timeout?
[22:56] <frib> 0
[22:58]  * ObrienDave does NOT use swap
[22:58] <EriC^^> frib: are you sure there's no # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT ?
[22:59] <ObrienDave> *quietly suggests grub-customizer*
[23:04] <EriC^^> frib: try adding GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
[23:04] <EriC^^> then update-grub
[23:04] <frib> That's there too
[23:05] <frib> But the value is 0
[23:05] <EriC^^> odd
[23:05] <EriC^^> maybe if you comment it out?
[23:06] <EriC^^> maybe 0 means sit indefinitely if it's using the recordfail one
[23:06] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[23:06] <knob> Guys... any idea what I can do with my dual monitors??
[23:06] <knob> I just... where what when?   What can I check?
[23:08] <Guest80800> quit
[23:08] <rgb-one> knob: look at them cross eyed like a chameleon
[23:09] <ObrienDave> put a / in front
[23:13] <knob> I am trying now with the Nouveau driver... see if it gets me somewhere
[23:16] <h0ddH3d>  /set weechat.look.prefix_quit " "
[23:18] <khanismatik> Is it possible to realize "please log through your browser first" in cli?
[23:19] <khanismatik> Something like that command --user ex --pass ex google.com 80
[23:26] <bewbz> I'll be building a PC in a few days when all of the parts arrive.
[23:27] <bewbz> Is installing Ubuntu really as simply as running from a USB?
[23:27] <daftykins> yes.
[23:27] <bewbz> What sort of management will I need to do in terms getting each company communicating with each other.
[23:27] <bewbz> componet*
[23:28] <k1l> bewbz: can you rephrase that question?
[23:28] <bewbz> yeah
[23:28] <daftykins> let me guess, first build?
[23:28] <bewbz> How will ubuntu "know" what kind of ram I have or that man CPU fan works
[23:28] <bewbz> Yeah, first build.
[23:29] <bewbz> Trying to save $100 on windows so I'd thought I've give linux a try
[23:29] <knob> bewbz, go for it... it will recognize pretty much everything!
[23:29] <k1l> bewbz: most of that is standarized. like acpi etc
[23:29] <bewbz> I don't get what BIOS update are though
[23:29] <knob> Really bewbz... it will know what ram you have, cpu, hard disks... etc
[23:30] <daftykins> don't know if troll or serious...
[23:30] <daftykins> bewbz: go ask in ##hardware
[23:30] <bewbz> lol i'm going to say to troll to save embarasments
[23:30] <bewbz> but really, I don't get it.
[23:30] <bewbz> I need to read more on them.
[23:30] <bewbz> too early for me to ask questions.
[23:30] <johnjohn101> bewbz: do you own any computer?
[23:31] <bewbz> What sort of Security should I install?
[23:31] <ObrienDave> it's included
[23:31] <bewbz> Yes, I have a old macbook (which I love, because crazy user friendly.)
[23:32] <ObrienDave> "user friendly" = dumbed down ;p
[23:32] <bewbz> Yeah, it's perfect for me.
[23:32] <bewbz> dumb
[23:32] <k1l> bewbz: ubuntu ships security updates to patch known security issues.
[23:33] <ObrienDave> you don't need to "install" security
[23:33] <bewbz> So I don't have to worry about getting f'd by some virus all my credit card info stolen. Literally, just stick in a USB and I'm good to go?
[23:34] <ObrienDave> !virus
[23:34] <k1l> bewbz: but that only works if you dont install software from 3rd parties. then its the 3rd party and your responibility
[23:34] <bewbz> Thank you ubottu
[23:34] <daftykins> bewbz: you install from the flash drive, not run
[23:34] <monojin> bewbz: from a recent linux convert, many hardware manufactors contribute directly to the linux kernel to make it support your hardware out of the box
[23:34] <k1l> bewbz: well, if you give some bad website your credit card details, no OS can help you there.
[23:35] <bewbz> I'm going to install a lot of third party shit, firefox, spotify, sublime, notepad, a calculator
[23:35] <ObrienDave> !language | bewbz
[23:35] <k1l> bewbz: see first if its included in the official ubuntu repos. than ubuntu will hace a look on the security updates
[23:36] <bewbz> sorry
[23:37] <bewbz> I saw in the reddit ubuntu page, some  people recommend buying a USB stick with Xubuntu on there? Do i need that. I can just install ubuntu 14.10 right on my usb stick from mac, build my pac, and boom ready togo?
[23:37] <monojin> bewbz: ubuntu comes preinstalled with firefox, a calculator, and a text editor (not to mention a full office suite)
[23:37] <ObrienDave> !unetbootin
[23:38] <bewbz> office suite, right. I need microsfot excel.
[23:38] <bewbz> forget about that. i mau need windows afterall
[23:38] <k1l> bewbz: no you dont need to buy anything.
[23:38] <ObrienDave> libreoffice will do excel
[23:38] <monojin> bewbz: libreoffice calc will do fine unless you're a mega hardcore super user (and even then...)
[23:38] <bewbz> Yeah, I thought that that'd seemed weird.
[23:38] <rgb-one> bewbz: you can also use google sheets
[23:39] <bewbz> can libreoffice save .xlsx?
[23:39] <ObrienDave> yes
[23:39] <monojin> bewbz: it may be a good idea to install libreoffice on your current OS and play with it for a while
[23:40] <bewbz> Ubuntu will recognize my Ducky Mini and monitor and usb mouse?
[23:40] <k1l> bewbz: load the usb live ubuntu on that system and we will see
[23:40] <gp5st> hello. I'm having trouble finding the docs to force a user to reset their password via ssh. Specifically I want to do it for sftp users and I've seen there are methods that sftp clients support http://winscp.net/eng/docs/ui_authenticate#password_change but cannot figure out how
[23:41] <ObrienDave> !live
[23:41] <bewbz> Thanks everyone! sorry for the swearing
[23:41] <ObrienDave> bewbz, same for all 'buntu flavors
[23:45] <acz32> why is ubuntu considered a beginner's distro? i have used debian and it's not any more difficult to use
[23:46] <k1l> acz32: look back to when ubuntu started.
[23:46] <HackerII> 7.04 was killer
[23:47] <keltim> 10.10 was the best they did
[23:47] <keltim> it was downhill from there IMO
[23:47] <HackerII> 1.04  seems good
[23:47] <acz32> ubuntu has gone downhill you mean? why
[23:47] <HackerII> 1
[23:47] <HackerII> 12
[23:49] <keltim> 1. it's messy - a great many programs out of main don't even work, it doesn't even seem like they were even compiled against the release I see so many lib errors in some of them, they keep changing everything with every release, there is little to no documentation because of that and the forums are littered with outdated and incorrect ways to do things
[23:49] <k1l> keltim: did you file bugs on the issues?
[23:50] <keltim> sometimes I do
[23:51] <keltim> the other killer for me is unity, and I know that's their baby, but it doesn't play well with anything else. So at this point if you don't like it you really should move away from ub.
[23:51] <k1l> well, lets stick to fix actual issues in here. and not in dreaming of the old gnome2 days
[23:51] <k1l> keltim: that is even more wrong.
[23:51] <Mion> can always use gnome3 instead
[23:51] <Mion> or kde or ....
[23:52] <jswagner> "I have a problem."  "Have you considered using something completely different?"
[23:52] <ricar396> the other way
[23:52] <k1l> ubuntu ships a lot of other desktops preinstalled (see the !flavours) and a lot more in the repo to be installed manually
[23:53] <keltim> yes I know, am using ubuntu-gnome as we speak
[23:55] <ricar396> ...
[23:56] <keltim> but the release since 11.x seem very ragged even beta in some respects to me
[23:56] <keltim> coming from debian
[23:56] <ricar396> red hat is better
[23:57] <keltim> well that's your pref.
[23:57] <k1l> can we put that into #ubuntu-offtopic or onto your blog? as i said we want to stick to actual ubuntu issues in here
[23:57] <ricar396> of course
[23:57] <keltim> of course
[23:57] <ricar396> xD
[23:57] <ricar396> lubuntu too
[23:58] <acz32> i don't know if this is the case with the ubuntu installer but i installed lubuntu today and there's a bug if you select the option to encrypt with LVM. so strange that it was released without noticing that when it's the LTS version, too
[23:59] <acz32> ya i guess it affects ubuntu too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1205397