[00:17] Riddell: ping [00:25] ahoneybun: I highly doubt Riddell is around at 2:30 AM [00:26] shadeslayer: never know the time sorry [00:26] ;) [00:26] wait that means it 2:30 am for you too no? [00:27] shadeslayer: ^ [00:27] yes [00:27] oh ok [00:27] I'm just heading to bed now [00:27] was reading up some Robert Frost [00:27] ok one question [00:28] though in bed I'll probably end up reading Why nations fail [00:28] shadeslayer: how do you see what language your computer is [00:28] with my eyes! [00:28] (as in the docs are in danish ) [00:28] :D [00:28] for some reason [00:28] even though the docs don't support it lol [00:29] probably somewhere in systemsettings? [00:29] the language KCM perhaps [00:30] was thinking of a command [00:30] I'll let you go, don't want to keep you [00:30] probably env | grep -i LOCALE [00:31] actually [00:31] env | grep LC [00:31] LC_NAME=es_ES.UTF-8 [00:31] is mine [00:31] nothing [00:31] one would think it'd be en_ES [00:31] no output [00:32] dunno mate, I'd poke Harald, I hear he's a locale wizard [00:32] lol [00:32] my bed is such a mess [00:33] /o\ [00:33] its like all the shit alternates between my table and bed [00:36] k night [00:37] night [07:08] Good morning. [08:06] Riddell: lp 1437803 [08:06] Launchpad bug 1437803 in apport (Ubuntu) "kubuntu 15.04 ubuntu-bug broken - File "/usr/share/apport/apport-kde", line 43 from PyQt5 uic ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437803 [08:21] thanks yofel [08:25] yofel: nobody else has come across bug 1436497 that I'm aware of, can you think of anything you're doing different? [08:25] bug 1436497 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Fails to start from kubuntu live session with failed to remove /run/udisks2/inhibit-polkit " [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436497 [08:27] hm... [08:30] ooh ooh bug 1435764 is in! [08:30] bug 1435764 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "FFe UI exception for LibreOffice Breeze Icons" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1435764 [09:03] Riddell: woot. libreoffice finally looking *good*? [09:03] how could that happen [09:45] no more "kde-full" package? [09:51] micmord: it was a debian meta package that's needed lots of modifications for plasma5 so it's dropped for now [09:53] Riddell: Ok [10:17] ovidiu-florin: akademy needs more talks, how about a short one on the kubuntu website? [10:18] ahoneybun: how about a short talk on kubuntu docs? https://conf.kde.org/en/akademy2015/cfp/person [10:25] hey Mirv, mitya57: come to akademy and submit a talk about packaging qt :) [10:26] mparillo: come to akademy and talk about PR stuff for kubuntu [10:26] deadline is today :) [10:33] I am so flattered, but there is no way I could make a trip to Europe now. [10:59] hmm, system settings now has a Notifications icon inside which are Notifications and Other Notifications [10:59] we'll be sure to get notified :) [11:37] micmord: Konversation 1.6~beta1-0ubuntu1 works! :-P [11:38] Howdy all [12:00] Riddell: why is bludevil stuff still not merged in master? [12:01] sitter: the guy wants to move the bluezqt library into plasma and then merge that branch in [12:01] I need to poke him to do that [12:16] * ahoneybun laughs [12:16] sitter: I got a build error from lp about the docs [12:17] Unknown CMake command "kde4_create_handbook". [12:18] work [12:19] Riddell: ^ [12:53] It looks as if the breeze icons have dropped into libre office. (1) Worth a plug? (2) If a user selects a different workspace or icon theme in system settings, does that affect Libre Office, or just KDE apps? [12:54] just kde apps, I'm pretty sure the code in libreoffice is to use breeze if KDE_FULL_SESSION is set [12:54] and not care about other settings [12:54] we have kinae plugged it quite a bit, there's still a couple entries on planet kde for it :) [12:56] Right, that is why I asked. I will restrain myself. Of course, landing in Kubuntu is the most significant event. ;-) [12:57] the icon theme is a few weeks old and could do with updating, just if someone has time.. [13:06] sitter: there's a card "Get kamoso into CI" is there a better board for that to be on than the 15.04 board? [14:27] ahoneybun: hmm now the slideshow is missing its icon on the first slide [15:19] mparillo: ping? [15:19] mparillo: me and shadeslayer will be on http://ubuntuonair.com/ in 40 minues [15:20] Riddell: did you find the webcam? [15:20] nope [15:20] shadeslayer: where do you want to do this and how do you want to set up the screens? [15:21] Riddell: downstairs? [15:29] shadeslayer: join #ubuntu-on-air [15:41] ddd [15:52] ximion: last day for akademy talks, how about a talk on stuff you're working on [15:52] that install magic and appstream et al [15:54] Riddell: 25th to 31st July... I think I even have time to attend then :) and it doesn't collide with Debconf'15 [15:55] you know you want to [15:55] but deadline is today [15:55] not sure if I could affort the travelling, but presenting AppStream together with probably all the other stuff that's going on (Limba/XdgApp/sandboxed-apps/offline-updates/...) is a good idea [15:55] quick become a kubuntu member and apply to the community fund [15:57] :D [15:57] * ximion is member of bugsquad only at time [15:58] ** me and rohan talking in 2 mins in #ubuntu-on-air and on video http://ubuntuonair.com/ [16:01] Riddell: need to think about this, as I am really not sure if I will be able to attend - a honest thing to do would likely be submitting a talk now, and stating that as submission note [16:18] Riddell: I'm inclining to say no [16:19] I'm researching right now into the best way to use multilingual [16:19] Riddell: Alas work interfears with Kubuntu. That said, will the talk be archived? [16:19] Riddell: how would you feel with using transifex for translation? [16:29] I have a stupid question [16:29] where is the Kubuntu source code? [16:30] anyone? [16:34] ovidiu-florin: for what package? [16:34] everything [16:34] I'm supposed to give the link with the Kubuntu project's source code [16:53] is anyone here? [16:53] I need some consulting regarding the website [16:55] hola [16:56] mparillo: all done, should be archived yes, ask mhall119 about it [16:56] ovidiu-florin: depends on the context, launchpad.net/ubuntu has all the packages which is the source code [16:56] but usually people are better going to upstreams to get it, kde.org and hundreds of others [16:59] mparillo: you can watch it on ubuntuonair.com until we update that page, and then anytime at https://www.youtube.com/user/UbuntuOnAir [17:03] Riddell: go to http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ [17:03] check out the upper left corner [17:03] ahoneybun: ^ as well [17:03] jose: ^ as well [17:04] so far it's just the page title (check the title bar) [17:05] ovidiu-florin: ah the translations? [17:05] that's cool [17:05] it's a test [17:05] but is there a sane way for people to translate it? [17:05] the language switches looks horrible [17:05] yes [17:07] I'm testing out transifex: https://www.transifex.com/organization/kubuntu/dashboard/kubuntu-website [17:07] I made an organization "Kubuntu" [17:07] and added a project: "'Kubuntu Website" === leyyin is now known as whyTryToRun === whyTryToRun is now known as whyTryToPun [17:12] Riddell: are you still here? [17:12] yo [17:12] testing sddm user switching [17:12] ok.... [17:13] tbh, I'm impressed by the ajax language switch :P [17:13] instantly === whyTryToPun is now known as leyyin [17:15] ovidiu-florin: does wordpress export translation files in .po or some other format? [17:15] for posts, no [17:15] not by itself [17:15] some plugin could do that [17:18] Riddell: why do you ask? [17:20] Riddell: the problem with this transifex aproach is that all the translations are stored on the transifex platform [17:22] and I don't know for sure if we can use this function on the Canonical servers [17:23] we can use whatever works [17:23] but often giving a .po file to upstream kde will get the best translations [17:23] but that'll probably be quite a manual process [17:23] jose told me that we can't use the Jetpack plugin because the canonical servers block external services [17:23] so who knows anything about nvidia prime? [17:23] oh right [17:23] and this is an external service [17:24] Riddell: it doesn't have to be a manual process, I can find/make a WP plugin for that [17:24] but that will take more time [17:25] and have a magical "Update Translations" button, that takes the translationd from the KDE translations server, if we are to use their servers for translations storage [17:27] ovidiu-florin: well that would all be most cool but maybe it's not a priority to get done if we want to launch before the 15.04 launch day [17:27] ovidiu-florin: what else is left to do? [17:27] Riddell: so you consider translations not a priority for the website? [17:31] ovidiu-florin: right, the current website doesn't have them so it's not like we're losing anything [17:31] it's just a nice to have one day [17:40] Riddell: i have the impression apport is making kded5 go bananas [17:40] it had an update today [17:40] and every time i log into plasma [17:40] my kded5 goes to 7GB and trashes the system [17:40] and once i was able to kill it before [17:40] and starting it manually yielded me a [17:40] ApportEvent :: hidden= false apport-kde= true apport-gtk= true [17:40] Using ApportEvent [17:40] "" [17:40] foundCrashFile false foundAutoUpload false [17:41] Matat [17:41] and then back to shell [18:07] Riddell: I submitted an Akademy talk (better than missing the deadline...), but I am not sure if I can attend - there's a really important birthday at the end of the week which I promised to attend ;-) (+travelling costs & general time-issues) [18:07] but thank you for hinting me at this! :-) [18:09] (I'll obviously withdraw the event as soon as I see that I can't attend (and I should know that in at least two weeks)) [18:09] oh he left, I don't know why apport would affect kded [18:10] ximion: you don't need to stay the whole week, although would be lovely to have you for the kubuntu sessions [18:10] ximion: and if you can work out costs I can apply and see if community fund will pay for your travel/accomodation [18:13] Riddell: will do! I am pretty deep in an exam/essay-phase right now... [18:14] (means if there's urgent stuff, I'll force myself to do that in time ^^) [18:18] * ximion needs to run [18:34] ovidiu-florin: pretty cool [18:35] Riddell: I'll check it out [18:38] Riddell: I'll think about the talk for akademy [18:39] the icon is there for my test [18:41] yofel: your suggestion fixed it but now they are in danish [18:43] yeah, I saw that. No idea why it's happening though [18:43] ofc sitter's gone at this time :/ [18:44] yofel: I'm getting a error from lp about building the package anyway [18:44] Unknown CMake command "kde4_create_handbook" [18:44] well, the kde4 part in that is probably wrong these days. But I don't know the fix either [18:45] I'll look around [18:46] Rename KDE4_CREATE_HANDBOOK macro into KDOCTOOLS_CREATE_HANDBOOK [18:46] found that on a forum [18:47] uh... [18:48] ? [18:48] ahoneybun: so the current archive package uses kdoctools_create_handbook(). I guess someone fixed that but didn't fix export.sh which overwrote it with the wrong call again [18:48] yofel: what's funny is that it worked before [18:48] pull the package from the archive again and look at e.g. doc/en/CMakeLists.txt [18:48] I made like 3-4 builds with the current macro [18:49] strange then [18:49] kde4_create_handbook(index.docbook INSTALL_DESTINATION ${HTML_INSTALL_DIR}/en SUBDIR kubuntu) [18:49] its the same in the other langs as well [18:50] here it says: [18:50] kdoctools_create_handbook(index.docbook [18:50] INSTALL_DESTINATION ${HTML_INSTALL_DIR}/en [18:50] SUBDIR kubuntu) [18:50] yofel: what copy is that? [18:50] like I said, the archive one [18:50] weird [18:50] 15.04ubuntu1 [18:51] the only place I find kde4_create_handbook in is "export.sh" which needs fixing [18:51] so if you run that, you'll break cmake [18:52] I fix my copy [18:52] I'll try to build again [18:52] yofel: whats even weirder is that danish is not in the package [18:56] I mean it is in the kubuntu-docs/doc/ dir but it is not installed under /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kubuntu-docs/ [18:57] I mean it is in the kubuntu-docs/doc/ dir but it is not installed under /usr/share/doc/HTML/ [19:01] Maybe I have been hitting the Wire a little too hard: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=281#disqus_thread [19:05] damn it I always miss ubuntuonair [19:05] ahoneybun: er, ok... I'm lost then o.O [19:05] yea... [19:06] yofel: seems to built well [19:09] ahoneybun: errrrrrrrrrr....... [19:10] from doc/*DA*/CMakeLists.txt: INSTALL_DESTINATION ${HTML_INSTALL_DIR}/en [19:10] find the error [19:10] * ahoneybun is scared of sddm update [19:10] embrace the breakage \o/ :P [19:11] Is there some blog or irc log or something where I can read about why sddm was chosen? [19:11] error? [19:11] ahoneybun: read the line above carefully [19:12] oh wow [19:12] ^^ [19:12] it installs all the langs into en [19:13] da? [19:13] oh [19:13] NSTALL_DESTINATION ${HTML_INSTALL_DIR}/da SUBDIR kubuntu) is my da [19:13] actually, da is the only wrong one, hence we get danish [19:14] yeah, but that didn't build, right? ^^ [19:14] yofel: it built [19:14] not sure where those CMakeLists.txt files come from, certainly not from export.sh [19:14] my da is fine [19:15] must be upstream [19:18] ahoneybun: can you please give me a debdiff from the archive package and your current one? [19:19] hm, harald's branch has no doc/ dir - so those cmake files came from somewhere else [19:19] Can't read file: debian/changelog [19:19] idk [19:20] huh? [19:21] It gives errors no matter what I do [19:21] no matter what dir [19:21] you make a debdiff by running 'debdiff .dsc .dsc > diff.debdiff' [19:21] oh [19:21] I don;t have a old .dsc [19:22] then just apt-get source the current archive package [19:22] ok hold on [19:23] I'm downloading the source from 15.04ubuntu1 and making my own ppa one [19:23] with my changes [19:24] right, I want the diff between 15.04ubuntu1 and yours [19:24] ok now I'll get it [19:25] meh, don't we have a bzr branch for this? It's pointless to have you work on something that you can't commit [19:25] there is [19:25] I don;t think I have upload rights [19:26] seems I can verify signature on both packages [19:26] ah, you have a branch [19:27] I want to keep that working [19:27] might make a testing branch [19:30] uploading my changes to a branch kubuntu-docs/vivid-testing === ahoneybun changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | 20 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh [19:30] yofel: ^ [19:30] still uploading [19:30] k [19:31] if I fix the general install path and the danish install path then I get the english docs in khelpcenter [19:33] hm.. harald's branch actually had the correct install path... [19:34] yofel: it works for you? [19:35] now yes [19:36] now to get that in my branch and merge lol [19:37] is harald's branch on lp? [19:37] ahoneybun: that's what I did as a quick test fix for EN http://paste.ubuntu.com/10714094/ [19:37] although http://paste.ubuntu.com/10714094/ is missing in that [19:38] not on lp, scratch/sitter/kubuntu-docs on kde git [19:38] oh [19:38] I got it from lp [19:38] the package has no documented VCS, so I have really no idea what's correct here [19:39] kde git was where harald pointed me to once [19:39] * ahoneybun is new to reading diff files [19:39] Riddell: could you maybe look into making lp:kubuntu-docs accessible for kubuntu-members? [19:40] yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/vivid-testing [19:40] this is my current setup [19:40] on my machine [19:41] ahoneybun: http://www.gnu.org/software/diffutils/manual/html_node/Detailed-Unified.html#Detailed-Unified [19:44] yofel: turns out I got a diff file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10714142/ [19:45] I should just pull from haralds and check if that works [19:46] maybe. You have doc/ committed in there which makes the diff a bit hard to read [19:46] I found out why yours doesn't work though [19:46] oh [19:47] -X-DocPath=help:/kubuntu/index.html [19:47] +X-DocPath=help:/kubuntu-docs/index.html [19:47] is wrong if we keep "SUBDIR kubuntu" - that would then have to be "SUBDIR kubuntu-docs" [19:47] so just revert that change [19:48] kubuntu/index.html would not find the text [19:48] oh [19:48] right, because we had broken cmake files [19:48] kubuntu/index.html did not work either way [19:48] now we fixed those, and thus fixed things twice - breaking it again [19:49] oh change SUBDIR kubuntu to SUBDIR kubuntu-docs in export.sh? [19:49] no, just use X-DocPath=help:/kubuntu/index.html [19:49] it would not find the docs before [19:49] before or after you fixed the cmake files? [19:50] before I made changes to the cmake files [19:50] well yeah, so what you did is turn the situation around by 180°, so it's again broken, just the opposite way :P [19:51] darn [19:52] i.e. it was looking for kubuntu - but the dir was named kubuntu-docs. Now it looks for kubuntu-docs, but the dir is named kubuntu [19:52] I pushed the that change to vivid-testing [19:52] *that [19:52] yofel: should I upload the change to my ppa and test? [19:52] should work if you try it now [19:56] * ahoneybun is uploading his build to his ppa [20:08] yofel: lp built it with no errors just waiting for lp to publish it [20:09] so I can test [20:10] * ahoneybun is out for dinner [20:39] hiho after some break :) [21:00] yofel: works \o/ [21:05] soee: ping [21:05] soee: do you have experience with WP themes? [21:07] hi, ovidiu-florin mope, i did some modificationes few times but i dont like ding it [21:07] ahoneybun: pong [21:07] soee: up for testing a ppa? [21:07] *an [21:07] ahoneybun: with what ? :) [21:08] soee: kubuntu-docs are missing in the current package [21:08] have a fix in my ppa [21:08] want to test it on another machine [21:08] sure [21:08] gimme ppa [21:08] ppa:aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packages [21:08] ahoneybun: and how can i check it amt that it is missing ? [21:09] *atm [21:09] soee: open khelpcenter and see if Kubuntu Documentation is there (in english) [21:10] or just search for help in krunner/kickoff [21:10] ahoneybun: it should be listed in left panel ? [21:11] yea [21:12] Riddell: can I have access to docs.kubuntu.org? [21:12] soee: you should have kubuntu-docs (15.04ubuntu2~ppa8) [21:14] ahoneybun: i see now only this packages to be updated: dbus dbus-x11 libdbus-1-3 libdbus-1-3:i386 [21:15] i had no kubuntu-docs installed by default [21:15] they shoud be here by default ? [21:15] oh install kubuntu-docs [21:15] no it is not... [21:16] they have to be install by the user [21:17] ahoneybun: ues they are presented in help center after i have installed them [21:17] *yes [21:18] soee: they show up in help center? and in english? [21:18] ahoneybun: yes but for me in PL [21:19] soee: is that you system lang? [21:19] but i have regonal settngs set to PL and translations to EN [21:19] *regional [21:19] soee: ok then that is good [21:19] :) [21:19] soee: could you change the regonal to EN and try again ? [21:20] nvm I think it works fine [21:20] * ahoneybun requests merge [21:20] Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/vivid/+merge/254841 [21:21] * ahoneybun is off for a few mins [21:21] thanks soee alot [21:21] ahoneybun: okui, great job [21:22] for some reason I also have LANG set to my region, not my language. [21:28] yofel: that is a problem outside of the docs no? [21:33] ahoneybun: yeah, that's just something the locale handling being broken as usual [21:34] yofel: ok well I uploaded our code to my kubuntu-docs/vivid and requested a merge [22:50] [ 2333.868843] Out of memory: Kill process 4416 (kded5) score 847 or sacrifice child [22:50] [ 2333.868846] Killed process 4416 (kded5) total-vm:17062016kB, anon-rss:7042364kB, file-rss:0kB [22:50] what?!? [22:50] of dear [22:50] oh [22:50] you got a memory leak? [22:51] has to be one, but that thing allocated like 1G per second [22:52] the only thing I saw beside it in top was some driver manager dbus service running at 100% cpu [22:59] using flgrx-updates and running chrom with 25 open tabs cause swap to be touched, as opposed to using the open source radeon drivers. 12GB of RAM [23:01] also the properitary blob breaks the taskbar notifications. The volume indicator comes and goes [23:12] reverting back to OSS driver chrome still takes half the swap, 1.8 GB?!? [23:13] Looks like the taskbar crashes again as well [23:26] yofel: lul, did reply with the bug number, but message got caught in moderation queue [23:26] heh ^^ [23:27] I'll just hope that harald will have some insight in that once he's done fighting docker.. [23:29] yeah, I just assigned him because I'm busy fighting live build :p [23:32] does not appear to be chrome, the video drivers, or clementine. After about 7 minutes of the desktop running, python3 goes to high cpu, kills part of the notification area and takes the volume mixer with it [23:33] still have audio but to volume icon to adjust [23:34] * yofel wonders if perma-killing kded5 would be a thing [23:35] darthanubis: anything interesting in dmesg? [23:35] Out of memory: Kill process 4880 (kded5) score 741 or sacrifice child [23:35] Killed process 4880 (kded5) total-vm:13232432kB, anon-rss:11241924kB, file-rss:0kB [23:35] weird [23:35] wheee, one more person suffering from lp 1434226 [23:35] Launchpad bug 1434226 in kubuntu-notification-helper (Ubuntu) "infinite recursion makes kded5 use excessive memory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434226 [23:38] whoop whoop [23:38] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html [23:38] means sid will be unfrozen soon [23:39] oh wow [23:39] I just hope they do a better job than us... for me vivid just gets more broken each day... [23:40] :( [23:40] okay, plasma 5.2.2 *did* fix a bunch of bugs I had, so it's not that bad [23:41] You can switch to my Debian CI stuff :P [23:42] I hear it's awesome [23:42] yofel: Thanks for the confirmation. Sadly this cripples the system. Everything was running perfect this morning:) [23:47] hm, potentially pkg-kde-tools doesn't QT_SELECT=5 [23:47] should do that really [23:48] lol [23:48] http://www.voidlinux.eu/ [23:48] Xibeca most certainly isn't the strongest of beers [23:53] lolwhat