[00:00] <mwhudson> i see
[00:00] <ibeardslee> I mean to say that yes you can go to them directly.
[00:00] <mwhudson> i also want a laptop fairly pronto as i'm travelling in 10 days and easter eats half of the working days :/
[00:01] <ibeardslee> ahh ouch .. that wouldn't be pronto going to Silicon as it's a special order
[00:02] <mwhudson> i wonder how well ubuntu works on macbook airs these days
[00:02] <olly> can you buy those without OS X?
[00:02] <mwhudson> no
[00:03] <olly> mac screens seem nice, didn't get on with the keyboard though
[00:03] <ibeardslee> I'd like to be able to get our (Catalyst's) buying power to a point of people being able to buy our 'standard' laptop variant.
[00:03] <olly> mainly layout, which you can probably fudge
[00:04] <olly> i do like the magnet-attached power connector they use
[00:04] <olly> though once the battery got sad, it might be more of a liability
[00:05] <olly> and i suspect the battery is glued in, being apple
[00:10] <mwhudson> well it's also squeezed in around all the other components i guess
[00:11] <mwhudson> can attest to magnet attached power connector being a pain when the battery is sad, yes
[00:27] <hads> Are the Lenovo units you buy any cheaper than buying with Windows direct from Lenovo?
[00:27] <hads> I've noticed that the distributors are often no cheaper than direct from the Lenovo website.
[00:29] <olly> presumably any cost difference isn't the big motivator though
[00:29] <hads> Understood, just curious.
[00:30] <hads> Oh jealous, I see the T450S has moved back to proper buttons on the trackpad.
[00:30] <olly> i've noticed at least some computers come with a nobbled version of windows, and you pay extra to get a less nobbled one
[00:30] <olly> so i guess MS may get a lower tax than they used to
[00:33] <hads> Looks like that's about the only change between the 440s and 450s, now I want a new laptop again.
[00:35] <hads> Wow, it's twice the price.
[00:36] <hads> I'll just get back to work then.
[00:37] <olly> expensive buttons
[00:51] <ibeardslee> hads: a bit cheaper, but we have a 3 year warranty I think the website's standard is 1 year
[00:52] <hads> Glad they are a little cheaper.
[01:17] <olly> my office is so hot today - doesn't seem like it's almost april
[01:18] <hads> Pretty chilly here today.
[01:25] <olly> it's nicely cool outside, I think it's just still so the air isn't circulating much
[18:13] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:57] <atamira> morning
[22:10] <olly> morning