=== tmpRAOF is now known as RAOF === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:32] keithzg: sure, will take a look in the morning :) [00:32] keithzg: sorry, tab complete failure ;) [00:32] kenvandine: sure, will take a look in the morning :) [01:48] Elleo: heh, yeah I was like "huh, but I gave up my Nexus 4 to my flatmate when his phone got stolen, haven't been active in #ubuntu-touch since then, why is someone pinging me?" [03:11] hello [03:11] tacoeater999: welcome [03:11] does anyone know i fthe dual boot instruuctions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation work with the nexus 5? [03:11] if the* [03:12] tacoeater999: many users installed touch on nexus5, so i presume dualboot will work too [03:12] i just don't want to mess up my phone. [03:12] has anyone here done it? [03:12] tacoeater999: there are tools to easy switch images, forgot its name [03:14] im just worried. [03:15] is ubuntu touch better than android? [03:15] tacoeater999: its safer and i think better [03:16] dual boot on the nexus5 is achieved via an android app by Tassadar [03:16] can you run regular ubuntu apps on it? [03:16] like, gimp? [03:16] tacoeater999: but not all apps on android are supported on ubuntu touch, so its your decision [03:16] tacoeater999: no, you cant install terminal way unless you unlock dir and dont receive updates anymore [03:17] thats dissapointing. it would be cool to use a keyboard/mouse and use professional programs on ubuntu [03:18] tacoeater999: that will surely come to the future [03:18] tacoeater999: there are youtubes already on tablets to do things like that [03:18] also, can you get a different desktop enviroment? like gnome? [03:18] tacoeater999: no, touch is really built to be solid alone [03:19] hmm... seems quite closed. [03:19] tacoeater999: try it yourself on your nexus5 [03:20] tacoeater999: im a very happy nexus7 user here [03:20] is there a way to just get plain ubuntu/other distros on the phone? [03:20] no [03:20] ubuntu touch is built for the devices [03:21] you cant just drag n drop ubuntu on it [03:21] yeah i suppose [03:21] tacoeater999: there might be other phone distro's out there that might work also on n5 [03:22] tacoeater999: but as for now, i think ubuntu touch is the nicest [03:23] it certainly does look awesome [03:23] but id really want to use gimp, blender, or libreoffice on it. [03:23] when would that be coming, do you know? [03:24] tacoeater999: more apps will follow in the future for sure [03:24] i mean the ability to install non touch apps. [03:24] tacoeater999: touch is built for security, to not break things installing with terminal right now [03:25] tacoeater999: its possible to unlock the dir as you wish, but then you wont receive updates [03:25] tacoeater999: you want blender use on a nexus5? [03:26] i could plug it into an external monitor, or just use it with a mouse/keyboard. [03:26] i probably wouldn't it was just an example. [03:28] tacoeater999: there are already video's out there with ubuntu touch running on tablets, with libreoffice and such [03:29] tacoeater999: youtube a bit :p [03:29] but not reciving updates... why is that nessecary? [03:30] tacoeater999: for security reasons, you should receive updates [03:31] i mean the fact that they get disabled [03:31] tacoeater999: updates get disabled, if the user unlocks the dir to install via terminal [03:32] cant you get updates from the terminal? [03:32] tacoeater999: updates are officially GUI on ubuntu touch [03:32] oh. [03:32] tacoeater999: you cant get updates on a package you downloaded yourself via terminal [03:33] tacoeater999: the philosophy is having all you need via click apps [03:33] i suppose. [03:33] tacoeater999: its really built for security [03:34] i bought myself a nexus7 specially for ubuntu touch [03:34] i dont like android nightmare [03:34] there are some good deal on craigslist [03:34] deals* [03:34] what kind of deals [03:35] nexus 7 for $150 [03:35] it must be the 2013 wifi version [03:35] not the 2012 right, or it wont work [03:35] so doublecheck good :p [03:35] i checked its the 2013 [03:35] nice [03:36] i run touch flawless on nexus7 here, very happy [03:36] neat [03:36] so, how are the apps on ubuntu touch? are there a lot? [03:37] actually, is there a webpage where I could take a look at them? [03:37] tacoeater999: over 1000 already i think [03:37] wow [03:38] is there a webpage where you can see them all? [03:38] https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/apps [03:40] neat. === duflu_ is now known as duflu [05:33] good morning === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [06:38] dholbach: Good morning [06:38] hey sturmflut-work [07:16] good morning [07:17] is there a way to use v4l on the bq phone? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:14] morning === zhsj_ is now known as zhsj [08:32] Good morning all; happy World Backup Day! :-D [08:32] * mcphail goes off to do his yearly backup. Can't be too safe! [08:37] oSoMoN, o/ I think now settings page branch is ready :-) [08:44] Set DNS settings Ubuntu Touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/603465 [08:49] rpadovani, testing it now, thanks! [08:51] can it be, that v4l is missing in the kernel? [08:52] could be that the shipped video codecs dont allow that, yeah [08:52] it is not enabled in the config [09:10] rpadovani, added one comment, otherwise functionally it’s all good, I’ll do a code review now [09:10] oSoMoN, already addressed :-) [09:11] man, you’re fast [09:22] * AlanBell wonders if 24 hours for an automated review is normal [09:23] i see no apps waiting for review [09:23] from you [09:24] popey: hmm, interesting [09:24] https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/2084/ [09:24] i cant see that [09:24] whats the status? [09:24] the status is draft, but I submitted it for review, and I can't submit it again, because it is submitted for review [09:24] Automated review not yet completed. [09:25] beuno: JamesTait ^ [09:25] sounds like a bug [09:25] oh, maybe I can submit it again [09:25] that made a difference [09:25] why did it go to manual review mode? [09:26] no clue [09:26] gosh [09:26] that was quick [09:26] I think it's the Neil Fox filter kicking in. ;) [09:26] it only went to review 0 minutes ago [09:27] not quite sure what I did wrong before [09:28] sometimes if you time it badly there can be a server deployment going on and you get into an odd state [09:36] rpadovani, more comments [09:37] oSoMoN, ty [09:44] * Se7 just notice that you can use the bq phone in horizontal only with apps [09:46] Scopes don't go upside-down either, which is a bit annoying if the phone is upside down due to charging cable orientation [09:46] oSoMoN, I want to talk with you about: 'Does the actual header really need to be a ListItem.Empty ?'. Advantages we have using listItem.empty it's I don't have to manual set height, so I'm sure it's the same of normal header, nor width. Also, we already import the listitem component to use the divider. What's the advantage to use a rectangle? [09:46] Though I understand that would confuse the edge gestures a bit, but that applies to upside down apps too, which do work. === VDVsx_ is now known as VDVsx [09:47] rpadovani, are we actually sure that the height of the header is the same height as that of a ListItem.Empty? [09:48] rpadovani, afaik the AppHeader in the UITK is not implemented as a ListItem, so it might just be coincidence [09:49] i agree with your first sentences rbasak :) [09:50] rbasak, Se7, once the shell rotation support lands, the whole screen will rotate ... the code simply didnt make it in yet [09:50] (it exists in some PPA ) [09:51] right tnx ogra_ [09:51] Nice - thanks ogra_ [09:51] oSoMoN, mhh, you're right, the height is set to units.gu(7) + the divider, [09:51] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/Ambiance/PageHeadStyle.qml [09:51] ok, I change to rectangle [09:52] and yesterday i was thinking that would be nice if you can answer a call from the circle due the the case got the hole so you don t have to open the case :) [09:52] * Se7 just a thought [09:57] oSoMoN, fixed, now lunch time, see you in a couple of hours [09:57] rpadovani, cheers, enjoy lunch! [10:00] is the front cam from the bq a OV5648? if yes, what is the other? [10:01] I'd like to see a "Now playing" message in the lockscreen circle, with an option to pause [10:02] mcphail, +1 [10:02] i think such stuff requires the re-worked greeter (which we will need for multiuser support) though ... [10:05] Aah - multiuser support. I forget this OS is not just targeting phones [10:10] bq Aquaris E4.5 mobile internet problem | http://askubuntu.com/q/603502 [10:13] mpt, hi, could you add a comment to the change in bug 1438323 ? [10:13] bug 1438323 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[system settings] Prompt for PUK entry when out of pinRetries " [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438323 [10:16] are there daily RTM builds or is ubuntu-touch/stable the channel to use? [10:18] To get remote debugging working, I have had to add gdbserver to /usr/local/bin on my bq phone. Is this going to cause problems with updates? [10:18] can we mess with /usr/local freely? [10:23] mcphail, "You can switch to read-write mode, although this disables Ubuntu system upgrades" [10:23] jgdx: yes - just wondering how permanent the disabling actually is :) [10:24] mcphail, "Recovering from read-write mode is possible but requires reinstalling the system from scratch" [10:24] there's more here https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ [10:24] How to access SD-card within Aquaris E4.5 (Ubuntu edition)? | http://askubuntu.com/q/603508 [10:25] mcphail, I use udf without data loss all the time. === Tassadar_ is now known as Tassadar [10:29] If updates break because of changes to /usr/local, that is probably a bug. [10:30] * mcphail notes he remounted read/write without using the "official" method on that page and /userdata/.writable_image hasn't been created [10:31] mcphail, my guess is that you can do whatever you want, the device is yours. But there's no guarantee anymore that things will work as intended. [10:34] mcphail: not really. if you switch to RW mode then you get to keep the broken parts when it breaks [10:34] bugs filed as a result of going RW then fiddling will likely be ignored [10:46] jgdx, what change is that? [10:47] mpt, does not affect ux [10:47] Hy all [10:47] jgdx, oh, I thought you meant you’d made a change :-) [10:47] Guys I have a problem with the Monodeveloper [10:48] oSoMoN, I fixed all, but visiblity of settingsPage itself, because setting visible: !subpageContainer.visible causes Binding loop detected for property "visible" [10:48] I'm a student I have to write console app in C# [10:48] I'll investigate more after launch [10:48] *lunch [10:48] Everiting workd fin until I want it to see the result in the terminal [10:48] I researchede so many places but still I didnt fin the solution [10:49] mpt, no, sorry. It's just that without ux, we're not quite sure how to proceed. [10:49] I using Monodeveloper 5.5 [10:49] Is there anyon can help me pls. [10:49] speck84, this is an ubuntu touch channel. [10:49] I know and I have a project for this as well [10:50] I have ubuntu phone [10:51] speck84, I don't think that approach is supported. [10:51] ok [10:51] I try on apropriet channel [10:52] speck84: might be better to ask on askubuntu.com it will hit a wider audience [10:52] Where would I post bugs/features for things such as skiping music on screen lock and having music/audio display in the sound indicator? [10:55] Thx guys [10:55] ChloeWolfieGirl, is a guide to where to report bugs on particular components [10:56] ChloeWolfieGirl, but it doesn’t mention the lock screen. That is part of unity8. [10:56] Mpt thank you :D [10:56] ChloeWolfieGirl, might want to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1378048 [10:57] Ubuntu bug 1378048 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "Make music controls work in the sound indicator" [Critical,Confirmed] [10:57] The controls are there, but hidden [11:00] mpt Wouldn't skipping media on lockscreen be more of a media-hub thing? [11:00] jgdx, ChloeWolfieGirl: yeah they are hidden because half of them didn't function, this should improve over time and be re-implemented though [11:02] ChloeWolfieGirl, by “skipping music on screen lock” do you mean having music controls on the lock screen itself? Or something else? [11:02] will 24 h clock be implemented in the future? currently its only AM/PM [11:02] music on the lock screen \o/ [11:03] mpt, i think inside the usermetrics circle is what she wants [11:03] EdwardMorbius: the 24 hour clock is there already, but it might be locale dependent [11:03] davmor2 I hope they bring it back sometime, its so much quicker to pause, skip and go back on songs then having to unlock the phone or having to switch back to the app just to pause something... [11:03] as i said a few lines above, that will require a new greeter first [11:04] mcphail by locale you mean timezone or system language? [11:04] ChloeWolfieGirl, i've discussed this with the designers before ... but firstly we are working towards adding controls into the sound-indicator (like unity7) [11:04] ahayzen: do you have music as a highlight or something? [11:04] davmor2, yup, i hear all your music discussions on -uk as well ;) lol [11:05] oh joy, this again [11:05] EdwardMorbius: I think the locale is set with the system language [11:05] mpt With cyanogen when you have the phone in standby, playing music but with the screen off, if you hold volume up, the song skips, hold volume down the song does to the previous one! I'd like to see music on the lock screen and I'd like to see that convinient feature of holding a volume key to switch songs. [11:06] mcphail then it wont work for me, I use english as my locale is not translated yet, which means no 24 h clock for me atm. [11:06] EdwardMorbius: At the moment, the system languages defines the locale and with it stuff like temperature units, AM/PM etc..but there is a bug reported by mpt requesting for this to be separated [11:06] would it not be convenient to um, change the volume with the volume key? [11:06] nik90 getting that separate would definitely be useful [11:06] AlanBell: erm you can already do that [11:06] EdwardMorbius: you can use UK english which will give you 24h clock [11:06] EdwardMorbius: I agree..there are lot of people requesting that. [11:07] nik90: yeah, I am just curious about ChloeWolfieGirl's suggestion [11:07] mcphail ok I will try switching to uk english [11:07] AlanBell: oh, I read your sentence as an isolated request :) [11:07] AlanBell with cyanogen if you tab volume up, the volume goes up, but if you hold volume up the song skips, it took a bit to get used to but its so convinent [11:07] ah, I see :) kind of makes sense now [11:07] changed and restaring [11:07] restarting* [11:07] ChloeWolfieGirl, huh, doesn’t that cause you to skip sometimes when you’re just trying to change the volume? :-) [11:08] ChloeWolfieGirl, IIRC one of my Sony's did that and it was a really useful feature :) [11:08] Or conversely, to make the volume REALLY loud when your phone is in your pocket and you haven’t realized that it hasn’t locked yet [11:09] mpt it did when I was first getting used to it, what happened more though was, I had the phone out of lock, held volume up, and the volume went really loud, and I was like, No I ment to skip the song xD [11:09] mcphail It worked now I have 24 h clock thanks [11:09] EdwardMorbius: np [11:10] mpt I wouldn't say it was a feature that I grasped 100% at the start, but after a week or so of using it, I loved the feature's convenience. [11:11] ahayzen, Haha yeah, don't want the current song, hold volume up, next song comes on, SOOOO useful, at least for me [11:11] EdwardMorbius: have you considered becoming a translator for your language? It would help Ubuntu to be supported for you locale sooner [11:11] ChloeWolfieGirl, yeah same don't even need to take your phone out of your pocket as you can feel where the buttons are :) [11:11] EdwardMorbius, bug 1388931 has discussion about whether Clock app should have its own 12-/24-hour setting. [11:12] bug 1392699 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1388931 Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date format) independently" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1392699 [11:12] mpt, volume buttons should always be volume buttons, is what I prefer. Not sure about you guys :P [11:12] mcphail I did some translations in the launchpad, but had some trouble finding all what needs to be translated for UT, is there any link where one can see all required translations? [11:12] ubot5, you’re drunk [11:13] ubot5, and you have an escaping bug too. “Sorry, I don't know anything about 'you\xe2\x80\x99re drunk'”? What is that gibberish [11:13] mpt: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:13] ahayzen, Yeah so many times I would have had to take my phone out of my pocket, press the power button, then tab skip, so much more time and effort then holding a volume button [11:14] EdwardMorbius: I'm just finding my way with this myself. I think there is an email trigger when translations are needed (such as on a package update). I'm trying to find out more about it. [11:14] ChloeWolfieGirl, anyway, yes, that’s probably more likely to be media-hub (or possibly indicator-sound) [11:14] ChloeWolfieGirl, isn't that what headset with controls were made for? [11:15] ChloeWolfieGirl, i said the same for answer a call..nice to do that from the circle :) [11:15] Maybe you have cheap earbuds without controls [11:15] mcphail yeah the translations part is a bit messy, difficult to find everything that needs to be translated. [11:16] mpt, then buy new ones [11:16] jgdx, alot of headsets don't have them controls, expectially headphones, some do but in my experiance most dont [11:16] ChloeWolfieGirl, mpt, there is work going on in media-hub to allow us to do this at the moment, then its up to design/unity guys where the controls are shown [11:16] EdwardMorbius: I had been looking as I was adding gettext support to a (non-Ubuntu) package. I think a lot is built into hooks from the repositories sending emails to translation teams. I suspect joining a translation team might be the best way in [11:17] se7 I'd love to see the person who's calling face in the circle, IDK about how you'd answer but I think that would be pretty sweet! [11:17] mcphail I will try but team responsible for my language seems a little "dead" when it comes to activity but I will try anyway [11:18] ;) [11:18] EdwardMorbius: out of interest, what is your language? Your English is excellent. [11:19] mcphail Croatian [11:19] Let’s just shrink down the whole display to fit in a circle [11:20] I'm surprised that translation team is quiet. [11:22] jgdx also my headphones cost a good amount and where discounted, its not just cheap ones that dont have media controls on board [11:23] mcphail I am checking the dates on some of the translation and some are not much up to date, I will try completing the missing translations. [11:25] ChloeWolfieGirl, :p I'm being stupid. There's a usecase I know. [11:26] Ubuntuphone Aquaris E 4.5 How to prevent webapps from stopping when losing focus? | http://askubuntu.com/q/603530 [11:27] /win 21 [11:27] jgdx, Oh you, you young whipper snapper, xD [11:29] ChloeWolfieGirl, but I strongly oppose, for what it's worth, that the volume buttons change behaviour (except for camera operations). [11:30] sergiusens, not Esc o, ctrl n ctrl n ? :p [11:33] jgdx perhaps you could change it in system settings, I mean IDK but I like the feature and its a big convenience, but if you don't like it, I think you should be able to change it [11:36] ChloeWolfieGirl, I would love to see, in system settings, a kind of hard button action editor. Long press on power spawns voice recognition, or something else. [11:37] I do believe those things are set in stone on e.g. iOS. And that bothered me. [11:45] jgdx, I know in cyanogen you can change quite alot, and that holding volume to change the song is an option in cyanogen, you can just untick it if you dont want it, but iOS is just a locked cage.. Ubuntu doesn't have many buttons, without a home button or other buttons like android there isn't as much to customise [11:48] I made a bug for the sound skipping via holding the volume button when the screen is off, if anyone misses/wants this feature! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1438655 [11:48] Ubuntu bug 1438655 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "Holding volume keys when screen is off should change song." [Undecided,New] [11:49] ChloeWolfieGirl: the other option is don't have music on your phone that you feel you need to skip, it saves room for the stuff you like ;) [11:50] davmor2, I listen to so much music on my phone, and music xD [11:50] I meant and podcasts [11:55] anybody have experience with the ubuntu phone? http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/devices [11:55] :) yes. [11:55] How do the Twitter notifications work with respect to the notification API? [11:55] any take on the hardware? [11:55] That is - what is the mechanism being used to poll? [11:55] batteri time? [11:56] mic quality? [11:56] responsiveness [11:56] dandrader: did you run the ap tests at all? the text tests don't rotate and the popover test actually fails [11:56] I'm wondering how to write an app or scope that can poll an RSS feed and notify when an article is available. [11:56] Would this require a notification server to poll by proxy? Or can it be done some other way? [11:56] Since Twitter seems to manage? [11:57] I only need a 60 minute poll interval and even slower might be acceptable. [11:57] kalikiana, only before I made the fix. once I found out that I could reproduce the issue manually with qmlscene (added some buttons to change the orientation) I just kept using the manual way [11:58] dandrader: I saw the buttons. unfortunately lack of tests is the root cause of not having caught these bugs right away :-( [11:58] so we really need these to pass and reproduce [11:59] dandrader: the popover tests passes partly but one of them closes instantly [11:59] I think it'd be kinda cool to get a notification for when a song changes so you know what the song is before it starts and can skip from the notification bubble, but then I imagine it could get pretty annoying [12:02] ChloeWolfieGirl, like the notify-osd rhythmbox uses in unity7? i'd like that as well...but it could be annoying if it gets in the way on the phone :/ [12:02] jdstrand: I don't even know why I pressed ctrl+R, alt+tab with two monitors is sometime unpredictable :-P [12:02] sometimes* [12:03] ahayzen, in the latest version of ubuntu you can swipe away notifications so it won't be to bad, just if you do it all the time, but then you could turn it off if you wanted in the notification settings in system settings [12:04] ChloeWolfieGirl, yeah i guess, my Xperia used to do it in the actual notification bar rather than a bubble which could be a bit neater but doesn't match our design patterns [12:04] and if it was configurable in sys settings/music that'd probably be ok [12:05] ahayzen, yeah same in cyanogen, it'd show the name of the song in a glans up [12:06] whats ofono? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:09] the telephony system [12:09] calls, sms, cellular data, etc [12:11] sergiusens, you mean jgdx right? [12:12] jgdx, fair enough, :P [12:15] jgdx: yes I do! Something is wrong with me today :-P [12:16] sergiusens, no worries :p [12:18] pitti: https://github.com/martinpitt/python-dbusmock/pull/4 - sorry to nag again, but you deleted an important signal emission when squashing my messy commits together [12:23] To sideload a package, do I simply do an "adb push"? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:28] When you visit a website, sometimes it'll ask you if you want to download the app from the playstore, is that a fault of the browser or webpage? [12:33] ChloeWolfieGirl, browser. [12:33] Browser states it's android [12:34] the reason is probably so you get the web version, which will display better [12:34] the mobile* [12:35] brunch875, so it should show as Ubuntu-touch but due if they changed it, it'd show the desktop version? [12:35] the browser doesn't actually state it is android, it says it's "like Android" [12:35] so smart websites have the opportunity to see that's it's actually Ubuntu Touch [12:35] but less smart ones can still fallback on whatever they serve to Android [12:36] that's what I'm assuming, chloe [12:36] * ogra_ reboots sergiusens [12:36] * brunch875 is off to eat with movie [12:37] pete-woods: ah, this looked redundant with the generic PropertiesChanged you added to mockobject.py? [12:39] pitti, not always, both nm and e.g. the connection iface both emit that signal [12:40] pitti: no worries. nm just has its own property changed signals [12:43] I guess I need some advice: I just pulled my bq Ubuntu phone out of my pocket, and it is stuck in some "fastboot mode". [12:43] hold down power and vol+ [12:43] It doesn't respond to the power key, any idea how I can reboot it? [12:44] Great, thanks! ;) [12:44] (about 10 sec for the power+volup key) [12:44] Seems to be booting normally now. [12:45] hi [12:45] Yep, worked, thanks! [12:45] Can somebody help me? [12:46] Which application can open .html files on phone? [12:47] rothe browser [12:47] robin-hero, the browser [12:48] oSoMoN, ^^^ or did we block the file:// protocol ? [12:49] ogra_: one of the systemd units took forever to unblock the boot! [12:49] sergiusens, oh man ... you should really be ported back to upstart :) [12:50] pete-woods: merged, thanks! [12:50] ogra: but how? [12:50] It isn't listed in the selection menu [12:50] pitti: thanks! [12:50] content -hub [12:50] if i am right [12:51] robin-hero, in the url bar in the browser: file:///home/phablet/ [12:51] but I can't download [12:51] (i *think* that is blocked in newer versions of the browser though ... for security reasons) [12:52] I clicked on it and the content-hub opened but only showed Dekko, Docviewer and an other ttottaly irrelevant app [12:53] that rather sounds like it isnt a html file or like the webserver you try to open it on is broken [12:53] how do you "click" on it ... i mean ... from which app [12:53] or a html page that points to document [12:53] from the gmail webapp [12:53] it is an attachment [12:54] it is a log file in html file [12:54] hmm, did you try docviewer ? [12:54] robin-hero: then click on docviewer === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [12:55] davmor2: But docviewer only displays it in plain text [12:55] so it is unreadable [12:55] well, then you need to write a "htmlviewer" app i fear [12:56] or ask the docviewer dev to start supporting html [12:57] ogra_: I'm disappointed, but thanks for your help [12:57] robin-hero, file a wishlist bu against docviewer, see what the dev answers [12:58] sverzegnassi: is the dev - ask him directly :) [12:59] ogra_, nope, we haven’t blocked it, so the browser can open local html files indeed [12:59] dandrader|afk: I addressed the test issues (you apparently removed the forced orientation on tests that did not opt-in) https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/orientationManual/+merge/254753 but I still get failures [12:59] I would appreciate if you could have another look [13:00] and please run the tests as well === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:02] pitti: FYI, this is making my indicator-network tests fail [13:02] dpm: Do you know why Launchpad raises this error when translating a string with two arguments? "a format specification for argument 1 doesn't exist in 'msgstr[0]'" [13:03] rvr, I'd suspect something wrong in the .pot template. Can you point me to the exact string in Launchpad? [13:03] pete-woods: oh, were you blocking on this? you know you can always ship your own templates, or even modify existing templates at runtime :) [13:03] pete-woods: I'll do a vivid upload now [13:03] dpm: This contact is on Telegram // %1 out of %2 contacts are on Telegram. [13:04] pitti: not blocking on it. I've just disabled the tests for now, but it'd be really nice to have them enabled :) [13:05] rvr, ah, I already had a chat with karni about that string ^ - we should fix it, but we don't have a good solution for it, so I think we should reword it [13:06] plural forms seem to work well with only one argument [13:06] pete-woods: uploaded [13:06] * karni notes [13:07] pitti: awesomes! [13:07] dpm: Ok, so I'll leave it untranslated === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:11] robin-hero: o/ from my PoV, since an html file is recognised as text type, docviewer properly opens it as plain text. IMHO it's the webbrowser-app that should provide a htmlviewer, but i'm not sure [13:11] how this could fit with the whole platform. [13:18] Hello, I want to build a little script to import SMS messages from a csv file in Touch. But I couldn't find the methods or the structure of the DB. can someone help me with that ? [13:19] freerage - definitely don't try to write directly to the db === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:19] freerage, there is an api for contacts in Qt, but that obviously isn't as straightforward as you might have liked [13:20] brendand - Ok, but I tried to find it without success [13:21] freerage, perhaps bfiller can point you in the right direction regarding your SMS messages import script [13:21] hat should go into the history service db ... [13:21] freerage: salem_ might be able to point you in the right direction. We do have a history-service api that is not published but possibly could be used.. [13:23] in fact there is ./.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite ... pull it off the phone and tinker with it til you got it right ;) [13:25] Well I'm waiting for my phone, I was hoping to begin before... [13:25] well, i wont send you my SMS history db :) [13:26] freerage, hi, the sms/voice history is stored in the database ogra_ pointed out, but there is a private c++ api that can be used (but also can be changed at any time) to populate that db. You can see this example on how to write events to the database using this api here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/history-service/trunk/view/head:/tools/maketextevents/main.cpp [13:27] How do the Twitter notifications work with respect to the notification API? [13:27] That is - what is the mechanism being used to poll? [13:28] I'm wondering how to write an app or scope that can poll an RSS feed and notify when an article is available. [13:28] kenvandine: tested and approved that MR, one of the comments might have a typo though [13:28] Would this require a notification server to poll by proxy? Or can it be done some other way? [13:28] That is - what is the mechanism being used to poll? [13:28] Elleo, thx! [13:28] rbasak, i'd just grab the twiter app source code ;) [13:28] Ah, poor history paste. Sorry. [13:28] not surprised about a typo :) [13:28] ogra_: I tried, but it seems to be old. [13:28] rbasak: as far as I'm aware there's a hack for twitter using polld [13:28] well, to be honest, i wouldnt ... i would just tinker in /opt/com.ubuntu... [13:29] * ogra_ only polls the source for C++ apps [13:29] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-twitter-app/trunk was where I looked [13:29] rbasak: that isn't an option for general apps though [13:29] tinkering directly in 7opt is so convenient ... [13:29] rbasak: for anything else you'd need a server talking to the push service [13:29]