[01:41] <jrwren> man, google must be getting desparate, blind recruting emails to the likes of me. :p
[01:42] <rick_h_> :P
[01:42] <rick_h_> shouldn't have referred you then?
[01:43] <jrwren> rick_h_: WHAT!  why you giving google my name?
[01:44] <jrwren> :)
[01:44] <rick_h_> heh
[01:44] <jrwren> you trying to tell me something? :)
[01:46] <rick_h_> no, just kidding
[01:47]  * jrwren wipes brow and looks at leankit.  :p
[01:47] <jrwren> j/k
[01:48] <rick_h_> psh, leankit time over
[01:48] <rick_h_> I just wish I could figure out wtf with this laptop scale factor crap!!! ugh
[02:05] <cmaloney> jrwren: I've gotten a few of them
[02:05] <cmaloney> Apparently they want me to move there and do sysadmin
[02:06] <jrwren> cmaloney: oh good, for a moment I thought I was special.
[02:06] <cmaloney> jrwren: You are special
[02:06] <cmaloney> None of that imposter shit here
[02:07] <cmaloney> leave that to the professionals.
[02:07] <cmaloney> <- me
[02:07] <cmaloney> pft... jrwren, trying to muscle in on my imposter syndrome
[02:10] <jrwren> hehe, neither of us can be mountain view imposters
[02:11] <cmaloney> jrwren: I think you've written more code in your sleep than I have, period. :)
[02:11] <jrwren> cmaloney: its probably not true. I play starcraft2 in my sleep.
[02:11] <jrwren> cmaloney: and before that, I was a member of sg1 in my sleep.
[02:11] <jrwren> that pretty much covers all my dreams for the last 20yrs
[02:11] <cmaloney> heh
[02:14] <jrwren> cmaloney: imposters unite! https://twitter.com/bpoetz/status/572952737677242368
[02:15] <cmaloney> ++
[02:15] <cmaloney> http://www.retroprogramming.com/2015/03/z80-size-programming-challenge-4.html
[12:39] <brousch> A good read https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257
[12:51] <jrwren> brousch: dude... he paints a picture and then complains about building his freebsd environment all day long. This person done not have a good grasp on reality.
[12:53] <brousch> BSD is just his example
[12:54] <jrwren> yeah, i'll ignore that 1 paragraph.
[12:54] <brousch> The insanity is more evident there. The same process happens on Linux, but is better hidden
[12:55] <jrwren> brousch: i disagree. Its a solved problem, but let me finish reading. :)
[12:56] <jrwren> because I just read the complaint about configure, which makes me wonder if he really doesn't know how autotools works or if he is just being obtuse.
[12:59] <jrwren> ok, i finally got to his point. He is dead on right, I just don't like how he got there :)
[13:01] <cmaloney> Morning
[13:01] <jrwren> good morning cmaloney
[13:02] <cmaloney> I think we read this article a few years back
[13:02] <cmaloney> at least I think so
[13:04] <brousch> The author doesn't offer any solutions, but I think Canonical has been trying to enforce some quality on the Linux desktop
[13:06] <cmaloney> I think you can point to a lot of projects where they have a benevolent dictator
[13:06] <cmaloney> GNOME, Ubuntu / Unity, Linux, Python
[13:07] <cmaloney> It's the ones where things are run like a cabal that you start getting into strange territory.
[13:07] <cmaloney> BSD
[13:07] <cmaloney> Not sure of KDE's governance.
[13:07] <jrwren> does freebsd have a BD?
[13:08] <cmaloney> I'm not aware of one
[13:08] <jrwren> openbsd had Theo. I don't know that he is benevolent :)
[13:09] <cmaloney> Apple had Steve Jobs
[13:09] <cmaloney> I think they've suffered greatly with his passing
[13:09] <jrwren> every company has a CEO
[13:10] <jrwren> what you got against TIM?
[13:10] <cmaloney> Listening to his biography. He was an asshole with taste.
[13:10] <jrwren> there ya go.
[13:10] <cmaloney> I like Tim, but I think he's not able to muster up the Jobsian fear
[13:10] <cmaloney> He's a new-testament CEO
[13:11] <cmaloney> Jobs was strictly Old Testament
[13:11] <cmaloney> Or more Greek God. Zeus perhaps
[13:19] <cmaloney> OK, apparently Node.js forked and now there's io.js
[13:20] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yep :)
[13:20] <jrwren> when C programmers don't know C https://github.com/Apple-FOSS-Mirror/Libc/blob/2ca2ae74647714acfc18674c3114b1a5d3325d7d/gen/wordexp.c#L192
[13:20] <cmaloney> *rolls eyes*
[13:21] <jrwren> cmaloney: you didn't know about io.js? I thought the drums had been beating on that pretty loudly
[13:31] <brousch> It's easy to miss if you ignore everything with node.js in the title
[13:32] <jrwren> ha! true that.
[13:58] <cmaloney> jrwren: I don't follow anything node.js
[13:58] <cmaloney> just popped along my peripheral vision
[13:59] <jrwren> that must be my problem, i follow too many things :)
[13:59] <jrwren> i've never used node for much, but I follow it a tiny bit.
[15:17] <cmaloney> Nothing wrong with that.
[15:28] <cmaloney> http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Edition-Black/product-reviews/B00F3SOHNU/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R2310CHWLKKVD <- I swear every single time I see a review start with "I have a BS in Computers and over 30 years experience" start a review I immediately discount the opinion a few points.
[15:29] <jrwren> cmaloney: me too!
[15:30] <cscheib> haha
[15:30] <jrwren> hahahaha.
[15:31] <jrwren> and it seems the whole reason he is complaining is he doesn't understand different power output  USB  ports
[15:31] <cscheib> you're too hyper today, jrwren
[15:31] <jrwren> cscheib: am I?
[15:31] <jrwren> cscheib: sorry.
[15:32] <cmaloney> jrwren: Yeah, I begin bracing myself for the inevitable "50 pin SCSI connectors are far more flexible than USB-C"
[15:33] <devinheitmueller> I have one of these.  They’re pretty helpful:  http://www.amazon.com/AboveTEK%C2%AE-USB-Voltage-Current-Multimeter/dp/B00ICR1UB6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1427816001&sr=8-4&keywords=usb+amp+meter
[15:36] <cmaloney> devinheitmueller: That's really cool!
[15:37]  * cmaloney adds to cart.
[15:37] <devinheitmueller> Yeah, cheap, simple, gets the job done.
[15:37] <devinheitmueller> Not terribly accurate, but good enough to tell whether you’re getting 500ma or 2000.
[15:38] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's all I really need
[15:40] <devinheitmueller> When I care about accuracy, I use one of these in conjunction with a benchtop meter:  http://friedcircuits.us/tools/50
[15:45] <cmaloney> right.
[15:46] <cscheib> jrwren: you've talked quite a bit on other channels, so yes :P
[15:48] <jrwren> cscheib: :p
[15:48] <jrwren> cscheib: that awk thing still puzzles me.
[18:21] <cmaloney> foo
[19:03] <cscheib> bar
[19:53] <greg-g> yay https://nthykier.wordpress.com/2015/03/31/jessie-is-coming-the-2015-04-25/
[19:56] <jrwren> greg-g: YAY!
[19:56] <brousch> Who is Jessie?
[19:57] <jrwren> brousch: seriously?
[19:57] <jrwren> brousch: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmJWDp66wkI/TVlNMblSb-I/AAAAAAAAAAw/Nrhq9iMRl-A/s1600/toy+story+3+Jessie1.jpg
[19:58] <brousch> Ah, I had to click links on the blog post to have a clue that it was about Debian
[19:59] <brousch> Yeah!
[20:07] <jrwren> as i listen to people complain about itunes, i wonder what the ipod workflow is like for the ubuntu-phone
[20:07] <jrwren> does it sync music with desktop ubuntu music app?
[21:34] <cscheib> Detroit Puppet User Group meeting: https://twitter.com/cjscheib/status/583018935764852738
[23:46] <cmaloney> Evening