[14:42] <xTEMPLARx> bwmaker:  I've always thought about the stuff that article you posted speaks of, but you just never think about it in the full scope of things.
[14:43] <xTEMPLARx> my wife knows my "usual" passwords, but she doesn't know WHERE all I go.  She has no clue about the digital ocean acct I'm using and things like that
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> thankfully, most things aren't that important, so if i were to disappear tomorrow, most of it just fading away wouldn't really impact much
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> but, for example, I use google drive as an online backup for important files for us. I need to let her know that.
[14:46] <xTEMPLARx> at the moment its just set up to auto-sync things on my home and work computers (lots and LOTS of our son's baby pictures).  I mean, when i was little, you backed up your children's photos by giving copies to family members. That way, if a house burned or pictures were otherwise damaged, there'd be copies SOMEWHERE.  Once I realized (i.e., admitted to myself) that I had been lucky with my hard drives' health thus far, I quickly jumped on
[14:46] <xTEMPLARx> the storage that google offers to back up the important photos and such.
[14:47] <xTEMPLARx> It's been an interesting thing to know that, all my son's life, 99.9999% of the photos of him are digital, and have never been printed onto paper.  Okay, well, maybe more like 99%
[14:47] <xTEMPLARx> so if that drive had died, it'd be gone
[14:48] <xTEMPLARx> so the backup is there. But, if my wife wasn't AWARE of what the google drive was being used for, when the bank accounts and cards changed after my death, that storage would just go away and all those shots would be lost
[14:56] <bwmaker> It's a lot to think about. You mentioned Digital Ocean, for example. I use it for tinkering, but I'd never really use it for anything serious because she'd have no clue how to even use ssh to get into the server, much less retrieve anything.
[14:57] <bwmaker> I'd have to leave things in a way that she could have a trusted friend of mine assist her with retrieving those things.
[14:58] <bwmaker> On the flip side of that, I have no idea how to access my wife's iCloud account. All her pics of us and the things we do together might as well be gone. Luckily, she does Instagram, so I could like write a script to download them.
[15:06] <xTEMPLARx> downside of instagram is that most of the shots there are cropped/reduced so not as good to have, although better than not having anything, for sure
[15:07] <xTEMPLARx> but you're right. there's a lot of details to take into account.  Leave it to adulthood to take the fun out of all of our gadgetry.
[15:10] <bwmaker> I know, right? The one sobering thing I took away from that is that startup, webapp, smartsphone, encrypt-everything, cloud-storage culture is really too young to have considered death, yet.
[15:11] <xTEMPLARx> bwmaker: so true.  especially to this degree. Even the old-school unix folks still documented everything to a degree that was more old-school and less in-the-cloud.  You'd find more paper documentation of digital things with that crew
[15:11] <xTEMPLARx> but now, its simpler and more tree-friendly to just document everything in the very space that you will have a hard time gaining access to
[15:12] <xTEMPLARx> btw, bwmaker, it's wrst's birthday today
[15:12] <xTEMPLARx> so make sure everybody knows
[15:12] <bwmaker> Happy birthday, wrst!
[15:13] <bwmaker> Ever time I see wrst, I think of a Subaru WRX STI.
[15:13] <bwmaker>  s/Ever/Every
[15:13] <xTEMPLARx> haha
[15:14] <xTEMPLARx> too funny. being in TN, all too often people say "every" like "ever". So reading it just sounded like a country dialect
[15:15] <bwmaker> I definitely have one. :) I'm from here. Grew up out in the country.
[15:15] <bwmaker> I probably say "ever time" and "ever one" and just don't notice it like I do when I'm typing it out. :D
[15:15] <xTEMPLARx> my wife is also from east TN. born, raised, etc.  I moved around all my young life so I didn't come here with a full country accent, but after years of making fun of it, I one day realized I couldn't stop
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> my wife, though, sounds country as all get out
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> yes, I said "as all get out"
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[15:17] <bwmaker> Ha!
[15:18] <bwmaker> My mom and her family say that a lot.
[15:22] <bwmaker> Also, this came to my attention today. https://www.reddit.com/r/grilledcheese/comments/2or1p3/you_people_make_me_sick/
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> rofl
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> i agree with him
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> i don't want ham in my grilled cheese, OR veggies like you would dress a regular sammich
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> some things are great just as they are
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> and a properly-made grilled cheese is one of those things. :D
[17:11] <wrst> hello
[17:24] <bwmaker> Hey wrst. Happy birthday, btw.
[17:25] <Unit193> Seems everyone is wishing that, and it's a nice bandwagon to jump on, sooo..
[17:25] <bwmaker> xTEMPLARx was letting everyone know. :)
[17:25] <Unit193> wrst: Happy nearer to death day!
[17:25] <bwmaker> :(
[17:28] <xTEMPLARx> unit193: rofl
[17:34] <wrst> ha ha Unit193
[17:36] <xTEMPLARx> so what's the damage, wrst?  24?  25?
[17:36] <wrst> 24+13
[17:36] <wrst> :)
[17:36] <xTEMPLARx> i'ma start callin' you pappy.
[18:18] <chris4585> wrst, happy birthday :)
[18:18] <wrst> thanks xTEMPLARx!
[18:18] <wrst> chris4585: good afternoon, and thank you
[18:19] <chris4585> same to you
[20:52] <Unit193> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html
[20:52] <Unit193> cyberanger: -----^
[20:53] <cyberanger> Unit193: nice
[20:53] <cyberanger> and man this channels been active lately :-D
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> no it hasn't
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> don't start rumor
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> rumors
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> *
[21:07] <Unit193> pisg/ubuntu-us-tn.html seems to think the 24th was busy. :D