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xkaueWhy does Xubuntu ships XChat, not HexChat?01:25
xkaueI read that XChat development has stopped.01:26
elkyxkaue: if you're talking about hte development version, i'd suggest submitting a bug about that. it's a good point01:34
elkynot much can be done about previous versions though01:35
xkaueHow do I submit a bug? I don't know much about Xubuntu roadmap, I was just reading about IRC clients and found that HexChat is a (active) fork of XChat.01:38
elkyxkaue: start here and follow the prompts. don't worry too much about "instructions" or whatever for this particular bug though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+filebug01:52
elkyleave most things at default values, ask if you get confused01:52
pleia2xkaue: xubuntu doesn't ship either one anymore02:06
pleia2only pidgin02:06
pleia2hexchat has some frustrating bugs, xchat is not being developed, and we figured with anyone beyond basic IRC needs (which pidgin provides) will just install their own client based on their preferences anyway02:07
xkaueYou're right, I'm using 14.04 and I thought XChat was still the default IRC client, sorry.02:09
pleia2no worries :) we appreciate the feedback, and this kind of feedback is precisely why we made the decision we made02:09
=== xkaue is now known as kauefr
elkysorry i should have checked02:59
pleia2elky: no need to apologize, your diligence regarding asking whether it was the development version was noted ;)03:03
elky:)03:04
Unit193Besides, nothing wrong with switching from null to hexchat.03:04
elfyknome: that looks more sane 06:20
knomeelfy, yeah, i agree09:02
knomeelfy, after having thought about it, what you said actually sums up my thoughts too09:03
knomeelfy, you said something about only a few people changing something "what makes us look something"09:03
knomeelfy, isn't that the purpose of the website/marketing teams? :)09:03
elfyknome: yea ofc - what's your point? 11:40
slickymasterWorkhey elfy 11:40
elfyI can't see anyone else wanting to make global decisions 11:41
elfyhi - not really here slickymasterWork - lunchtime11:42
slickymasterWorknevermind, already have what I needed from you ;)11:42
knomeelfy, marketing/website-related decisions tend to affect more people indirectly, and i guess we don't just agree on what is something that should be ran through everybody in the team and what not12:54
knomebluesabre, ochosi: either of you around for a debugging session?13:00
knomebug 143867913:09
ubottubug 1438679 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "After unplugging external display, the Xfce session isn't resumed correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143867913:09
brainwashbug 137970213:10
ubottubug 1379702 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfsettingsd crashes after disconnecting external screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137970213:10
knomedidn't pop up when i was filing13:12
knomeaaand set as duplicate13:19
elfyknome: I'd guess so :)13:50
knomeelfy, even when i was the XPL, i wanted to delegate "freedoms" and responsibilities to team leads and more, so maybe if you think this from that point of view, it might make more sense (even if you didn't agree with it any more)13:54
elfyI've really not got much of an issue here - website is nothing to do with me (much), but I will balk at being told what to do with QA ;)13:55
knomeelfy, we didn't tell anybody to do with anything yet :)13:56
knome*anything with anything13:56
elfynor do I particuarly want to drag this out anymore 13:56
knomejust an early proposal :P13:56
knomeagreed13:57
knomeat least we're arguing about things, not people...13:57
elfyha ha ha 13:57
elfywe're probably arguing about the difference between words written, their expected meaning, and their perceived meaning ;)13:58
knomeprobably13:58
knomebut even that's better than arguing about people or just for the sake of it :P13:59
knomewhich i've seen happen in other teams...13:59
elfyfor sure :)13:59
elfyif I was arguing that black was white - I'd be doing it in -offtopic ... 13:59
knomeand the best thing is that even if we disagree, i can expect that you won't hate me after that - and you can expect the same from me13:59
* knome offers elfy a cookie and a coffee with rum14:00
elfyabsolutely :)14:00
elfylol 14:00
slickymasterWorkrum?!14:00
knomerum14:00
elfyis that a bribe :( 14:00
elfy:D14:00
slickymasterWorksomeone called me?14:00
knomeelfy, maybe ;(14:00
knomeslickymasterWork, haha14:00
slickymasterWork;)14:00
* knome offers slickymasterWork some cold hand on the cheek14:00
slickymasterWorkblaarrrrgh14:01
knomei didn't argue with you, no bribes for you :P14:01
knomei mean, acts of kindness and friendship14:01
knome:P14:01
elfyha ha 14:01
slickymasterWorknoet to himself, argue with knome on a regular basis14:02
slickymasterWork* note14:02
knomeit's the foreign language that mixes my thoughts up O;)14:02
elfyUnit193: like https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-qa14:33
slickymasterWorkelfy, double towards, isn't it a bit on the meh side?14:35
elfymissed that 14:35
slickymasterWork:)14:35
slickymasterWorkspot on14:36
elfyrarely get them14:36
knomeelfy, the website doesn't mention that either (needs updating), but one of the tasks is also maintaining the testcases/-suites14:36
elfyknome: I'm looking at the QA page anyway - that can be added for sure14:37
Unit193Sounds like PR.14:38
knomeelfy, yep14:41
slickymasterWorkok, so I've also tweaked the -docs description in LP, agreements, disagreements, please14:44
slickymasterWork!team ^^14:44
slickymasterWork!team14:45
ubottubluesabre, elfy, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit19314:45
knomewhat about the slideshow? :P14:47
slickymasterWorkwas on planning on starting that after release knome 14:48
slickymasterWorktbh, I'm struggling a bit with spare time14:49
slickymasterWorkbtw knome, did you manage to think about your issue with https://code.launchpad.net/~krytarik/xubuntu-docs/patches/+merge/25448514:49
elfyUnit193: as long as it doesn't sound like teen spirit I'm happy14:51
slickymasterWorkgrunge elfy?!14:52
elfynope - I wash regularly 14:52

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