[00:13] <Viabobed> Anybody active?
[00:16] <Viabobed> (Yells into empty Canyon) Hello Hello
[00:16] <Viabobed> (Echos Back) hello hello....helllo
[00:18]  * bprompt drops a pin
[00:23] <Viabobed> I waned to ask you guys something...
[00:23] <Viabobed> in the very quiet chat room named Kubuntu
[00:23] <Viabobed> lol
[00:24] <bprompt> well.. some are, some aren't here
[00:24] <bprompt> I'd be dashing soon myself
[00:25] <bprompt> but you can ask, worse case scenario, it'd echo echo echo
[00:25] <bprompt> heheh
[00:25] <Viabobed> hahaa
[00:25] <Viabobed> yeah
[00:25] <Viabobed> not much to lose
[00:25] <Viabobed> I just wanted to ask her before I jumped into the forums
[00:25] <Viabobed> wanted to know if you guys know how stable Plasma 5.2 is
[00:26] <Viabobed> Is it safe? lol
[00:26] <bprompt> hmm
[00:26] <bprompt> I run 12.04.... so.... and I dont' use plasma per se, since I run lxde as window manager, but from a few folks I've heard..... not as stable thus far
[00:27] <Viabobed> Got it.
[00:28] <Viabobed> I felt like it was a bit risky based on something I read back in September
[00:28] <Viabobed> But it's matured a bit since then.
[00:28] <Viabobed> I'm running Gnome now, on Lubuntu
[00:28] <Viabobed> but wanted to try something more polished
[00:33] <keithzg> I'd say that Plasma 5.2 is decently stable, but still has some rough edges and is definitely not feature complete.
[00:34] <keithzg> That being said, much of what I personally miss from Plasma 5.2 is merely stuff I had back in Plasma 4, so if you're a Gnome or LXDE user you likely shan't notice the missing features, heh.
[00:35] <keithzg> But I really wouldn't install it on 14.10 if you want a polished experience. Wait at least until 15.04 is officially released, and either install the corresponding metapackage (should still be "kubuntu-desktop") once you've upgraded to 15.04, or install Kubuntu 15.04 fresh, Viabobed.
[00:36] <keithzg> If anything, I've only really had trouble with things on 15.04 thanks to my high-DPI screen and the switchover to systemd.
[00:37] <keithzg> If you *really* want a very polished, mature experience, at this rate that Plasma 5 is rapidly maturing I suspect whatever ships with 15.10 will be very solid. But if you can't wait, then do at least wait for 15.04 to be officially released, I'd say.
[01:05] <Viabobed> whoa didn't notice you guys responded.
[01:06] <Viabobed> So Plasma on 14.10 is pretty stable
[01:07] <Viabobed> Does the 15.04 image come pre-loaded with Plasma 5.2
[01:09] <fcomtois> hey guys, does anyone know how to AFP shares using dolphin?
[01:15] <fcomtois> guys?
[03:23] <fcomtois> anyone has experience mounting AFP shares using dolphin ?
[05:04] <frecel> hi
[05:04] <frecel> is anyone awake
[05:04] <frecel> I'm having some critical issues with kwin on 15.04
[05:10] <valorie> frecel__: what issues?
[05:20] <FlameReaper> I cannot see other computers connected to the network via Kubuntu but I can see them when I log in to my Windows partition.
[05:20] <FlameReaper> and access them without much issue.
[05:20] <FlameReaper> what could be the case?
[05:20] <FlameReaper> Dolphin just returns this error: Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.
[05:22] <frecel> kwin is crashing for me on 15.04
[05:22] <frecel> I have no window manager right now
[05:23] <fcomtois> does anyone have experience mounting AFP Shares on Dolphin ?
[05:26] <valorie> fcomtois: what is a "AFP" share?
[05:26] <valorie> FlameReaper: where are you looking?
[05:27] <valorie> do you have Samba installed and working?
[05:27] <FlameReaper> valorie: how do I make sure it is?
[05:28] <FlameReaper> also I'm trying to do the usual "navigate to Network in Dolphin >> select Samba Shares >> wait and see"
[05:28] <valorie> In Dolphin, Network > Samba shares > Workgroups
[05:28] <valorie> I see my husband's windows computer in my network
[05:28] <valorie> and I've never done anything to enable Samba
[05:28] <valorie> it Just Works
[05:28] <FlameReaper> I can't
[05:29] <FlameReaper> I do know that I should be able to see "Workgroups" when I select "Samba shares"
[05:29] <valorie> he's not shared anything with me, and he's not logged in, so I don't "see" anything
[05:29] <valorie> hmmm
[05:29] <FlameReaper> but Dolphin keeps returning me some sort of an access error
[05:29] <valorie> !samba
[05:29] <valorie> perhaps there is some help for troubleshooting in those two links
[05:29] <FlameReaper> my laptop doesn't have access problems when in Windows
[05:30] <FlameReaper> and are able to see the computers in the network as it should
[05:30] <valorie> well, this is a laptop, with Vivid beta
[05:30] <valorie> as I said, I never did anything special
[05:31] <valorie> or even looked there before tbh
[05:39] <frecel> I installed awesome so I can use my desktop
[05:39] <valorie> frecel: later, if you want to, you might join #plasma and talk to the kwin devel mgraesslin
[05:39] <valorie> and find out what's going on
[05:40] <valorie> right now the european devels are still asleep
[05:40] <frecel> valorie: is anyone else having issues with kwin right now or is it just me?
[05:41] <kb52> hi
[05:41] <valorie> I've not heard of any, frecel
[05:42] <valorie> what version of kubuntu were/are you using?
[05:42] <frecel> 15.04 haha
[05:42] <valorie> ok, so the beta
[05:42] <kb52> For those looking for a decent backup system, try Kleo it is excellente.
[05:43] <frecel> I installed it so I can file some bugs before the official release, didn't expect things to fail this badly
[05:45] <kb52> Kleo is by carroll.net is a live CD backup and restore running on Ubuntu. But its great if your not wanting to start over all the time when and if you crash your Linux too badly.
[05:45] <valorie> frecel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwin
[05:45] <valorie> personally, I like rsync
[05:47] <kb52> It does have a few odd bugs. About the only one is you for some odd reason go have to mount for example my firewire drive, had to be mounted before I could use it to backup to.
[05:47] <kb52> That and the icons on the desktop overlapped each other. But I was able to go past that do a full backup in 30 minutes, and a full restore in 15
[05:50] <frecel> valorie: I think I should find out how to replicate my bug before I submit it
[05:50] <kb52> Well Kleo is the fastest I have seen, and totally GUI and so making it very user friendly. Plus at least you can browse the web, download torrents, and even burn a CD/DVD from the live cd bootup.
[05:51] <valorie> kb52: not really on-topic here however, is it?
[05:51] <valorie> !info kleo
[05:52] <kb52> You just go to carroll.net and can download the iso that is the only place I can find it.
[05:52] <kb52> Its only a bootable cd about 420MB ...
[05:52] <valorie> exactly, so definitely not on topic
[05:53] <valorie> if you would like to see it packaged in Ubuntu, please file a bug asking for it
[05:53] <valorie> until it is available in the repos, it is not on-topic here
[05:54] <valorie> if you like it, please do that
[05:54] <valorie> I've done it a couple of times, and eventually those good applications are packaged
[05:55] <kb52> Well yes I would since it runs in Ubuntu itself. And someone seemed to mention they have damaged their system by installing somethingm, so it is a great tool to get around such disasters much more easily than having to reinstall everything from scratch.
[05:56] <kb52> So how does one get them to get it put onto the repo?
[05:57] <valorie> as I said, file a bug in launchpad
[05:57] <kb52> What topic is this channel? It says Kubuntu support?
[05:57] <valorie> yes
[05:58] <valorie> installing packages from outside the repos is not supported
[05:59] <kb52> I am hoping it gets packaged with several Distros. Right now it is not a package, it is only an .iso file that you can burn to a cd.
[05:59] <fcomtois> valorie: AFP is Apple Filling Protocol
[05:59] <valorie> ah
[05:59] <fcomtois> valorie: it has nothing to do with Samba except that both are file sharing protocols
[06:00] <valorie> hmmm, no apple anything in mty network
[06:00] <fcomtois> lucky you
[06:00] <fcomtois> haha
[06:00] <kb52> Of course it has to run outside from a live CD or USB stick to have any use at all.
[06:00] <fcomtois> we just have some old legacy snow leopard xserves that are pushing out the files
[06:00] <valorie> when I did have a mac, years ago, it was very difficult to network mac <> windows
[06:00] <kb52> I would like to find an application that can play .MKV files with some success.
[06:01] <valorie> before linux existed
[06:01] <kb52> As well as one that will play .3GP with sound as opposed to without sound.
[06:01] <fcomtois> valorie: linux exists since 1993 haha :P
[06:02] <valorie> well, desktop linux then
[06:02] <kb52> But MAC is actually linux, why is it hard. My G3 finds it easy to get along with windows shares.
[06:03] <fcomtois> it works fine with nautilus
[06:03] <fcomtois> but dolphin is having none of it
[06:03] <valorie> kb52: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38268/how-to-properly-play-mkv-files might help
[06:04] <valorie> fcomtois: unsure
[06:04] <kb52> That seems off topic. But I will go look it up.
[06:04] <fcomtois> yeah... I figured it's not something people are very familiar with nowadays
[06:10] <kb52> That only described issues with smplayer itself. It is perhaps dbus errors that creep up preventing programs like VLC to play them, or maybe just bad. The 3gp issue does not matter, I can play them fine when uploaded to facebook and played back from facebook, and the 3GP ones are all from the video camera anyhow.
[06:12] <kb52> Has anyone an idea why my firewire drive decided to mount and unmount itself repeatedly in PC-MAN FM?
[06:13] <kb52> Rebooting fixed it but never seen such strange behaviour.
[06:14] <fcomtois> kb52: it appears that your firewire drive was literally f*cking your computer :P
[06:14] <valorie> !language
[06:15] <fcomtois> *making love
[06:15] <valorie> sigh
[06:15] <fcomtois> american ?
[06:15] <valorie> I believe it is solid that handles your hardware
[06:15] <valorie> sounds messed up though
[06:16] <kb52> Well its kind of like it was in a loop or something. I suspect it was some sort of dbus error, but acted like hardware but wasnt. After full shutdown and restart its fine now.
[06:17] <kb52>  Now the big experiment of upgrading 1316 packages and see what trouble I fall into from there.
[06:21] <kb52> Was only doing that is PCMANFM so perhaps something down in that was the reason.
[06:23] <kb52> Well I guess I will go cross my fingers. It is the knoppix machine that is getting all the updates to see if it can handle them or not.
[06:24] <kb52> Going off to beddy bye and let it do its thing, and get out of this machine too.
[06:58] <_puddle_> my wifi has stopped connecting to the network. i can see it ,  it tries to connect but fails over and over
[06:59] <_puddle_> it connected for a time today but now is gone again
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:00] <darokthar> Hello, since about one week my dolphin and other qt programs take about 1-2 minutes to start. As soon as they are started everything is fine.
[08:02] <darokthar> I've tried deleting ~/.kde which helped. But it's happening again.
[08:02] <darokthar> I tried some googling, but found nothing which solved my problem.
[08:04] <valorie> what version of kubuntu are you running, darokthar?
[08:04] <valorie> deleting rather than moving ~/.kde is a bad idea
[08:05] <valorie> btq
[08:05] <valorie> I mean, btw
[08:05] <darokthar> In fact i did move it.
[08:05] <valorie> cool
[08:06] <Tm_T> I'd rather create new user for such tests instead of mess the whole ~/.kde
[08:07] <valorie> the reason I ask for version is that as of plasma 5, config files are now found in ~/.config or ~/.local
[08:07] <darokthar> I'm running KDE 4.14.2
[08:07] <darokthar> As moving ~/.kde solved the problem at first, it seems to be the right folder.
[08:08] <darokthar> And at least my kwallet is stored in that directory.
[08:08] <darokthar> And all other settings although.
[08:08] <valorie> so perhaps you are running Kubuntu 14.10?
[08:08] <darokthar> Yes
[08:08] <valorie> ok
[08:09] <valorie> so, you could try with a new user, but moving your .kde folder is equivalent to that
[08:09] <valorie> so what you could try is running the slowly-starting applications from the commandline, and watch the output
[08:09] <valorie> and see what is slowing things down
[08:10] <valorie> maybe `dolphin --debug` or so
[08:11] <valorie> you could also search bugs.kde.org for dolphin bugs and see if there are some hints there
[08:11] <valorie> which is what i usually do
[08:11] <Tm_T> darokthar: is the slowness also when trying to log out or shut down?
[08:11] <Tm_T> as in, could it be dbus?
[08:12] <darokthar> Tm_T i rarely do this. I'll have to try.
[08:14] <darokthar> The fun thing is, that gtk apps start normal. Firefox altough starts normal. Kate, okular, dolphin do not...
[08:15] <darokthar> I klicked on logout. But till now nothing happened.
[08:15] <darokthar> Maybe it takes altough a while.
[08:21] <darokthar> The log out does not seem to work at all.
[08:21] <darokthar> I'll start a reboot.
[08:32] <soee> good morning
[08:38] <_puddle_> morning/evening
[09:05] <darokthar> The general startup of kde is altough as fast as always. Even when dolphin and okular are started from the previous session. It is only slow after KDE is up and i try to start an application.
[09:06] <soee> darokthar: define "slow"
[09:06] <soee> and are we talking about KDE4 or Plasma5 ?
[09:07] <darokthar> kde 4.14.2 slow means over a minute to start dolphin.
[09:07] <darokthar> And it seems moving ~/.kde solves the problem. At least for a while.
[09:08] <soee> oh strange
[09:08] <soee> so it might be related to some previous configuration maybe
[09:08] <darokthar> And the problem is only with kde/qt programs. When starting firefox or gtk apps, they start asap.
[09:09] <soee> darokthar: if you start Dolphin form cli, do you have some warnings maybe ?
[09:10] <darokthar> Lets wait
[09:12] <hateball> And do you get the same behavior starting Konsole?
[09:12] <hateball> Dolphin might try and reach some remote hosts you've bookmarked
[09:12] <darokthar> But this would not be true for okular, or kate
[09:16] <darokthar> soee here is the output of dolphin http://pastebin.com/DFnfzpfc Keine Berechtigung translates to "no Autorization"
[09:20] <darokthar> Ok, it seems to be a problem with iptables.
[09:33] <wmp> hello
[09:35] <wmp> i have question, what is it and how to disable this: http://i.imgur.com/CDtMAH0.jpg
[09:38] <soee> wmp: whee do you have it ? on kubuntu ?
[09:38] <wmp> yes
[09:39] <wmp> on locking session
[09:39] <soee> i havent seen it before, maybe something from plasma active
[09:40] <avtolik> hey guys, do you know why kwalletmanager5 is missing from the kubuntu plasma 5 repo?
[09:40] <avtolik> it seems that I need to, so my wifi password gets saved
[10:02] <soee> avtolik: good morning, it seems that there is no kwalletmanager5
[10:03] <soee> there is only kwalletmanager
[10:04] <avtolik> yes, I found this in some forum:
[10:04] <avtolik> Without KWallet, plasma-nm won't save the passwords
[10:05] <avtolik> and indeed, my wifi passwords are not saved
[10:05] <soee> well true
[10:52] <dtcdarkraven> greetings all, after having done a complete format of my system, i attempted to install Kubuntu back onto my system, however the installer seems to crash whenever i attempt to load up via a pendrive. then the loading screen pops up but is completely stuck at the hard-drive icon..
[11:15] <iconic2_> 2
[11:50] <iconic2_> Do you guys want another website to have a irc web client hosted on?
[11:55] <lordievader> iconic2_: What do you mean?
[11:56] <iconic2_> Well I just got paid for some sub contracting work I did a few weeks back and was going to order either a colo or a vps
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:35] <_puddle_> hi BluesKaj
[12:36] <BluesKaj> hi _puddle_
[12:37] <_puddle_> my wifi has stopped connecting to my ap
[12:37] <sniper338> Hallo! :D
[12:38] <_puddle_> it tries over and over but no
[12:47] <s_20> hi! would it be a terrible idea to upgrade 15.04 now already?
[12:47] <lordievader> s_20: It is still a development release.
[12:48] <lordievader> I.e. not recommended.
[12:48] <s_20> so i suppose i should resist the urge to upgrade my work laptop now already
[12:49] <BluesKaj> s_20, it's not ready for the workplace
[12:49] <s_20> that much work happening in the next 3 weeks?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> s_20, think I'd wait at least a few months after the official release before installing it for the workplace
[12:51] <s_20> BluesKaj: really?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> nothing wrong with 14.10 , it's stable and fast
[12:52] <BluesKaj> and still has better features than 15.04 IMO
[12:52] <s_20> BluesKaj: i was looking forward to plasma 5 after having used the kde 4.* series for more than 5 years now ;)
[12:52] <BluesKaj> eye candy isn't everything
[12:52] <lordievader> s_20: In the next 3 weeks it might simply break.
[12:53] <s_20> obviously it isn't, but i think after a few years it's understandablwe if someone wants to see some updated visuals
[12:55] <BluesKaj> s_20, there are all kinds of themes and colours etc available for kde4 , more than you'll ever use
[12:55] <BluesKaj> kde-look.org
[12:55] <s_20> BluesKaj: i think it's no secret there are very few high quality themes available
[12:56] <BluesKaj> that's a matter of taste
[12:56] <s_20> and going on kde-look.org is more like a trip down memory lane these days when it comes to themes, particularly if they haven't been updated since 2010
[12:57] <BluesKaj> even fewer on plasma5
[12:57] <s_20> definitely
[12:58] <s_20> still, i'm looking forward to plasma5 ;)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> well, you do what you want
[13:24] <xennex81> is there a reason why plasma-desktop can take 50% cpu in 14.10?
[13:25] <xennex81> it happens regularly, sometimes after a few minutes into the session
[13:25] <xennex81> i have to fix it by logging out and logging back in
[13:57] <vip> hello there
[13:58] <soee_> hiho
[13:58] <vip> anybody experienced kded5 memory eating?
[13:59] <soee_> someone mentioned it today
[13:59] <vip> oh, great
[13:59] <soee_> vip: 14.10 or vivid ?
[13:59] <vip> vivid, with latest updates
[13:59] <bshah> there are/were bug reports on kde bugzilla..
[13:59] <vip> thank you
[13:59] <soee_> Riddell: ^ this is known i think, iv seen iton rello
[13:59] <soee_> *trello as some recursion goes there ?
[13:59] <vip> hope there is a workaround
[14:00] <vip> (other than alternative desktop manager)
[14:01] <soee_> vip: it works goo for me soe far
[14:01] <soee_> *good
[14:02] <vip> bshah: does you know bug number?
[14:02] <vip> do
[14:03] <bshah> vip: not sure but https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337674
[14:03] <bshah> oh wait
[14:03] <bshah> its about memory
[14:03] <bshah> ignore me
[14:03] <Riddell> vip: fix on its way, apt remove kubuntu-notification-helper   for now
[14:06] <Riddell> hi libregeekingkid
[14:07] <libregeekingkid> Riddell: Hi there
[14:10] <_puddle_> my wifi has stopped connecting to my ap
[14:11] <_puddle_> it tries over and over but no
[14:11] <vip> bshah: thank you
[14:12] <BluesKaj> _puddle_, look in /var/log/syslog for the error
[14:12] <sixtubuntu> hello
[14:13] <sixtubuntu> Any  help me? Torrent download error. -> Access denied, leeching forbidden
[14:14] <BluesKaj> sixtubuntu, ktorrent ?
[14:14] <vip> Riddell: thank you
[14:14] <sixtubuntu> this ubuntu, not kubuntu :/
[14:14] <vip> soee_: thanks to you too
[14:16] <BluesKaj> access denie\d, maybe you need to register on that torrent site, and this is kubuntu support
[14:16] <BluesKaj> sixtubuntu, for ubuntu support  /j #ubuntu
[14:27] <_puddle_> BluesKaj, not sure what to make of it
[14:28] <_puddle_> seems to say its connecting then losing it over and over
[14:28] <BluesKaj> _puddle_, if you found an error post it in pastebin if it's more then 3 lines long'
[14:29] <BluesKaj> _puddle_, check that network manager is using the correct password etc
[14:30] <_puddle_> it's open.  tethering from the phone
[14:30] <_puddle_> italso happens with my usual wifi wifi
[14:31] <BluesKaj> using your phone as a modem ?
[14:33] <_puddle_> hot spot
[14:36] <BluesKaj> sorry, dunno much about phones and the internet
[14:36] <_puddle_> it's just an open wifi ap
[14:37] <_puddle_> currently on it with my raspbery pi
[14:38] <BluesKaj> no matter , I know something about ncomputers and the internet , but not phones
[14:38] <_puddle_> well it connected briefly this evening but won't come back
[14:39] <_puddle_> also when i log in as guest no go
[14:39] <_puddle_> but works booting windows or off a usb
[14:41] <BluesKaj> maybe someone else can help you , sorry i can't
[14:42] <rberg> I would start by looking at the output of 'dmesg' and look for NetworkManager lines in /var/log/syslog to see whats really happening behind the scenes
[14:45] <_puddle_> rberg, can i show you the log?
[14:47] <dtcdarkraven> hello all, ive been having issues installing kubuntu .10 the installer constantly crashes after i boot the usb drive up.., i was wondering if me having an SLI setup could be the couse?.. if not.. what it could be.. and what i can do to properly install kubuntu back onto my system?  ( left pc alone, fresh windows install made it go sleepy.. :P, i asked this question before )
[14:49] <rberg> _puddle_: maybe just make sure nothing confidential is in there.. maybe start by 'tail -F /var/log/syslog' and try connecting
[14:51] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, how did you install the iso on the usb?
[14:52] <dtcdarkraven> using the recomended linux live usb creator ( on win )
[14:53] <dtcdarkraven> had it format ( fat32 ) and used 4g of persistance
[14:53] <BluesKaj> there's a live linux usb creator in windows?
[14:54] <dtcdarkraven> haha, yes there is exually its linked on the kubuntu website aswel.
[14:54] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, you don't need persistence
[14:54] <BluesKaj> just fat32
[14:54] <dtcdarkraven> that is true.., but it would allow me to use a live invirement at other places i might decide to use the thumb drive
[14:55] <dtcdarkraven> could it be cousing an issue?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, afaik persistence isn't needed for any of that
[14:55] <dtcdarkraven> what i ment was, use some software i might install on the pendrive later :)
[14:56] <dtcdarkraven> however if it could be cousing issue's.. i have no problem with removing persistance from the pendrive..
[14:56] <BluesKaj> use partitions
[14:58] <dtcdarkraven> allright.., il try to do it without peristance then.., reading on the website from that peace of software it does state "persistance on selected linux" so it might be the cause..
[15:00] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, yes I've read discussions abouthe persistence bug before ,, but never used it myself
[15:01] <BluesKaj> it's a fat 32 problem with the 4G max
[15:01] <dtcdarkraven> BlueKaj, would you have some "literature" about making partitions on a live usb-pendrive ?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, this seems contradictory, but it's all I could find that's relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/397481/how-to-make-a-persistent-live-ubuntu-usb-with-more-than-4gb
[15:05] <dtcdarkraven> much apreciated
[15:50] <hateball> kwin_x11 crashes for me in 15.04 but #ubuntu+1 doesnt seem very active :|
[15:50] <hateball> it freezes my entire machine for some seemingly random reason
[15:53] <MoonUnit`> this bug turned up last night, might be your problem hateball https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226
[15:54] <hateball> MoonUnit`: hmmm, I am irssing in a VT atm, lets see if I can browse there on my phone
[15:55] <MoonUnit`> temporary fix was to remove kubuntu-notification-helper
[15:56] <hateball> MoonUnit`: ah, nice! I'll give that a go, thanks
[15:57] <MoonUnit`> bug report claims it was fixed 16 minutes ago, no idea when that will be downloadable.
[15:58] <hateball> so far my X session lives
[15:59] <BluesKaj> hateball, next time you freeze try alt-tab, that usually unfreezes the desktop in 15.04
[15:59] <hateball> BluesKaj: It's completely unresponsive when it happens, only managed to even switch to a vtty once
[16:00] <hateball> I'm not even sure what this notification-helper does, I still get notifications in from the tray
[16:00] <BluesKaj> hateball, have you upgraded and dist-upgraded and installed the recommended gpu driver
[16:00] <hateball> even with it removed, that is
[16:00] <hateball> BluesKaj: Yes and yes
[16:01] <hateball> MoonUnit`: Well I've been going longer than I managed before so I guess this was the same bug
[16:01] <BluesKaj> hateball, beta 2?
[16:02] <hateball> BluesKaj: I'm not sure this has a name, I dist-upgrade every one or two days. Anyhow MoonUnit` has already pointed to the bug affecting me
[16:02] <hateball> what a weird thing
[16:05] <hateball> This is what broke it then: 2015-03-31 23:14:35 upgrade kubuntu-notification-helper:amd64 15.04ubuntu2 15.04ubuntu3
[17:06] <MoonUnit`> kubuntu-notification-helper update is now downloadable
[17:09] <vip> great
[17:09] <vip> who needs it anyway?
[17:12] <MoonUnit`> no idea, didn't notice any difference removing it.
[17:19] <lordievader> Supposedly it was giving a memory leak in Vivid.
[17:20] <MoonUnit`> yup caught it last night, machine unusable just after logging in.
[17:22] <lordievader> Sometimes not having an up to date system is usefull ;)
[18:57] <ahoneybun> let me grab one
[19:19] <Erthe> On 15.04 Beta 2, updated kubuntu-notification-helper to 15.04ubuntu4 earlier, and it seems to have resolved a stability issue I had, but I can't get the Alt-F2 run command dialog to appear anymore.
[19:19] <Erthe> Anyone have any hints on how to restore it?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> Erthe, right click on the desktop and choose run command
[19:25] <MoonUnit`> alt + f2 works for me, noticed in shortcuts app alt+space works too.
[19:35] <BluesKaj> yes same here
[23:49] <yofayce> Hey all