[02:15] <cxdvty> ObrienDave: are you here?
[05:54] <xennex81> does anyone know if 15.04 will allow me (or anyone) to run plasma4 style themes like Oxygen and Air (in KDE)?
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:06] <elfy> morning lordievader
[07:07] <lordievader> Hey elfy
[07:10] <elfy> you good?
[07:15] <lordievader> Without coffee? Not sure :P
[07:15] <elfy> lol
[07:15] <elfy> I've just disconnected the tea-line - day is looking ok now :)
[07:57] <kbroulik> any progress on the kded5 ram bug? :/
[07:58] <lordievader> Ram bug? (I suppose this question is more suited towards #kubuntu-devel)
[07:58] <kbroulik> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226
[07:59] <kbroulik> ok I turned off notification helper, perhaps that helps
[08:37] <xennex81> i'm not sure if I'm such an annoying person here, but I'm just asking whether plasma 5 will allow a person to use plasma 4 style themes, or whether these themes are present, or anything like that.
[08:39] <xennex81> so sorry if I'm being a weirdo here ;-)
[08:40] <xennex81> that is not really intended
[08:40] <xennex81> plasma 4. Has these themes. Oxygen. But most importantly Air, I guess. It looks pretty fancy with high contrast. At least when compared to Plasma 5 breeze light theme.
[08:42] <xennex81> it has nice icons. It was often said that 15.04 woudl ship plasma5 "by default" but I hear say that plasma5 is going to be the only option.
[08:43] <xennex81> although I feel that having an option to select the older looks is a great asset to any distribution and certainly to this one.
[08:44] <xennex81> it would just be great if any of the old would seep through in the new
[08:45] <xennex81> and I don't really know how to explain myself but it's really simple. The question is really whether these icons and themes are present or could be present or will be made present in 15.04, by any chance whatsoever?
[08:47] <lordievader> xennex81: Asking around in #kubuntu-devel or #kde probably has more result.
[08:47] <xennex81> oh okay
[08:47] <xennex81> i mean, I was just directed here before :P
[08:47] <xennex81> haha
[08:47] <xennex81> thanks man
[08:48] <xennex81> I think it was actually you who was the helpful person? :P
[08:48] <xennex81> but thanks
[09:05] <quiricada> lubuntu 15.04; cups 2.0.2; printers are showing in cups using browser access, however, no printers listed in program print dialogs (eg. libreoffice), printer is not listed in system-config-printer either
[11:54] <henkjan> hi
[11:55] <henkjan> i did a fresh install of my hypervisor with vivid
[11:55] <henkjan> default vivid kernel (3.19.xx)
[11:55] <henkjan> running a few vm's
[11:55] <henkjan> the host now randomly hangs itself
[11:55] <henkjan> no logging
[11:55] <henkjan> just stops responding
[11:56] <henkjan> i've upgrade to 4.0rc6 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[11:56] <lordievader> Hehe. Now that is fun. What does monitoring system resources show?
[11:56] <henkjan> now seems to run fine
[11:59] <henkjan> i wasnt using excessive system resources
[12:01] <lordievader> Memory errors?
[12:05] <henkjan> no logged memory errors
[12:05] <henkjan> its a dell 2950 with 16G FB ECC memory
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:16] <solsTiCe> hi. what is the best (if there is any) to upgrade to 15.04 beta from 14.10 ? do-release-update -d, update-manager -d or from a liveusb ?
[15:16] <solsTiCe> +way+
[15:17] <k1l_> the upgrades work. if gui or cli doesnt matter
[15:17] <solsTiCe> ok
[15:37] <hateball> So I am having trouble with kwin freezing my entire machine on 15.04
[15:37] <hateball> I can see it spamming xsession-errors with: kwin_core 0x20004: Usage warning, generic vertex... something something
[15:38] <hateball> it happens if I just let the machine sit on an idle session
[15:43] <hateball> Well it also happens if I try to actively use the machine, which is more of an annoyance
[15:44] <hateball> I am not sure what to look for
[16:02] <hateball> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226 is what
[17:54] <FunnyLookinHat> Can anyone else confirm a weird networking issue where having both a wireless and wired connection at the same time causes requests to timeout?
[18:16] <ceed^> Hi, after todays update I am getting this error every time I boot: https://carousel.dropbox.com/photos/cc/XNWKUahiRCSoWvX
[18:27] <xennex81> ceed^: too many arguments is usually a bash test not going right because a variable has not been quoted
[18:28] <xennex81> ceed^: ie. [ -z $var ]
[18:38] <ceed^> xennex81, this is what is in that file: http://hastebin.com/iqoxuzafey.bash
[18:42] <xennex81> [ -n $LC_IDENTIFICATION ] && [  ${LC_IDENTIFICATION%.*} = 'pt_BR' ] is the recommended way to be dash/ash/sh compatible
[18:45] <xennex81> ceed^: but if gives an error if LC_IDENTIFICATION contains a space, or tab, or newline, most likely. You'll need to enclose it in ¨" but that means something is going wrong from the start? Dunno, just saying a few things about where the error comes from.
[18:45] <xennex81> [ -n "$LC_IDENTIFICATION" ] && ["${LC_IDENTIFICATION%.*}" = 'pt_BR' ]
[18:45] <xennex81>   
[18:47] <ceed^> xennex81, this must be a bug since this error suddenly popped up after a recent update in 15.04. I have never touched that file.
[18:51] <xennex81> ceed^: then it means that string is wrong but the script fails because it is wrong, ie. there is a space in it or whatever
[18:52] <xennex81> ceed^: if you want to troubleshoot it, do "echo $varnam > /tmp/tmp.log"or whatever and then check that file after login or boot
[18:52] <xennex81> i mean in the script
[18:53] <xennex81> but I'm not sure if that's what you're intending, but I'm no bug-handler here
[18:55] <FunnyLookinHat> ceed^, I get the error too
[18:55] <FunnyLookinHat> ( just ran updates )
[19:06] <ceed^> xennex81, thanks! I just wanted to know what was wrong. But it's good to know what is actually happening also.
[19:07] <xennex81> yw
[19:08] <xennex81> but the string is obviously had from the environment, the contents of mine is "nl_NL.UTF-8" so check yours?
[19:09] <xennex81> i mean, it is supposed to be "pt_BR.UTF-8" or something for you right
[19:09] <xennex81> so type echo $LC_IDENTIFICAITON in a shell
[19:10] <xennex81> withing the spelling error :p
[19:12] <xennex81> it is probably unset
[19:19] <xennex81> it is funny that [ -n -a -n ] will complete as true without error
[19:19] <xennex81> but [ -n -a = string ] will fail with the error you got
[19:35] <ceed^> I do not get anything from $LC_IDENTIFICAITON  And I have set "en_US.UTF-8"
[19:44] <FunnyLookinHat> $LC_IDENTIFICATION is blank for me too
[19:58] <solsTiCe> so I wanted to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 using a liveusb. why the **** the installer asks about timezone and want me to create a user ? all is already set on system that is being upgraded ! so I aborted the upgrade and ended up in a lot of trouble. almost all was gone on /. So I reinstalled :-( bummer
[19:59] <CptRageToaster> solsTiCe: Is it possible that you blew away the old install before you even started installing?
[20:02] <solsTiCe> It seems so. stuff were already started when you are at the user creation step I guess
[20:04] <k1l_> solsTiCe: why didnt you use the upgrade like do-release-upgrade or update-manager?
[20:05] <solsTiCe> I already donwload the iso so I thought it would faster
[20:05] <solsTiCe> load+ed+
[20:05] <k1l_> solsTiCe: the installed offers a "upgrade the install" option. if you didnt use that you might have reinstalled. or half reinstalled
[20:06] <solsTiCe> no I used the upgrade option. and it ask nonetheless to ccreate a user
[20:12] <CptRageToaster> that might have been normal...
[20:56] <solsTiCe> when I boot (into 15.04), it gets stuck at "checking file system on disk (0.0%)" for 30 seconds or so. I wonder if it is related to the crypted swap I configured
[20:57] <solsTiCe> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10720620/
[20:57] <solsTiCe> uh ho output of systemd-analyze blame|head
[21:01] <solsTiCe> and the metadata of ext4 partition do not show a fsck been done
[21:30] <solsTiCe> should I open i bug report ?
[21:31] <elky> sure. make sure you give as much detail as you can about your setup
[23:06] <solsTiCe> I have anothe problem. When I close the lid of my laptop, it does not go to sleep and the external monitor is still on; may be because of external monitor
[23:11] <solsTiCe> anyone ?
[23:12] <solsTiCe> was working fine in 14.10