[01:48] <daftykins> nice work virgin media ;)
[01:49] <daftykins> stable as a cow in a shopping trolley as is tradition
[02:34] <zmoylan-pi> well it's aprils fool day so you won't miss much for next 30 odd hours
[02:35] <daftykins> oh dear, yes
[02:40] <zmoylan-pi> daftykins, a massive hummingbird has just taken your hat and coat
[05:41] <knightwise> morning everyon e
[07:26] <diplo> Morning all
[08:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:08] <davmor2> popey: another much later catchy tune that isn't from the 80's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wSr7h_pjxs  your welcome by theway
[08:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:24] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:24] <Myrtti> morning
[08:24] <Myrtti> apparently dsample got the NVidia to work last night
[08:24] <Myrtti> so now I can play Cities on the laptop \o/
[08:24] <bigcalm> Yay
[08:24] <bigcalm> I've enjoyed watching somebody play on YouTube
[08:25] <bigcalm> Not really my thing to play myself though
[08:25] <Myrtti> http://twitch.tv/cleavetv (occasionally NSFW) and http://twitch.tv/simcopter1
[08:25] <Myrtti> those are what I watch
[08:26] <bigcalm> https://www.youtube.com/user/YogscastSips - pretty much everything is NSFW (language)
[08:26] <bigcalm> He plays a lot of things as well as Cities
[08:26] <Myrtti> Simcopter is even live now
[08:26] <Myrtti> he's a real life city planner, or was before becoming fulltime streamer
[08:40] <dogmatic69> I got a strange error http://pastebin.com/jHZjUFnJ
[08:41] <dogmatic69> any ideas? the if statment was coppied from a working similar file without any changes :/
[08:42] <foobarry> that <path> looks wrong. shouldn't you haev $PATH?
[08:43] <foobarry> actually just the correct path to the php files
[08:43] <foobarry> so not $PATH
[08:43] <dogmatic69> well its just a place holder so I dont paste the actual path online...
[08:44] <foobarry> ah, you didn't mention that :D
[08:44] <dutchie> morning
[08:46] <foobarry> dogmatic69: have you run them by hand?
[08:46] <dogmatic69> foobarry:  ye, I just did an no errors
[08:48] <dogmatic69> the error makes it seam like bash is trying to pipe the contents of the variable into the number
[08:49] <foobarry> dunno, check for bad chars? i wouldn't implement that way, rather roll up into a single script that runs from crontab on the selected hours
[08:49] <dogmatic69> well that would just mean much more to manage in the cron jobs instead of in the file
[08:52] <foobarry> don't you need php -f ?
[08:56] <foobarry> seems to be multiple issues you have but the line numbers don't match the errors
[08:58] <dutchie> dogmatic69: i'd use something like "if [ $thishour -lt 5 ]; then" rather than ((
[08:58] <dutchie> or probably separate scripts really
[09:00] <dogmatic69> dutchie:  separate scripts would be a massive pain, there is already a bunch of them...
[09:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Fun Day! :-D
[09:11] <TwistedLucidity> What's all this about Microsoft taking a 25% stake in Canoncial? Is it part of their mobile-drisruption strategy?
[09:11]  * foobarry checks the date.
[09:11] <TwistedLucidity> Dammit
[09:11] <TwistedLucidity> Worth a shot though
[09:20] <foobarry> application crashes when X displayed onto 2 computers (1 intel fedora, 1 nouveau xubuntu), and works on 2 elementary (nvidia, intel)
[09:20] <popey> ho ho ho. minecraft was down this morning
[09:21] <foobarry> any ideas? screen mem? common driver issue? library issue?
[09:21] <popey> sam was most upset, none of the servers he wanted to connect to would work
[09:21] <popey> found http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/ and told him to refresh that page, he can play when it's all green
[09:24] <bigcalm> Ah, school holiday?
[09:24] <popey> ya
[09:24] <foobarry> DOS attack happened to PSN on xmas day once didn't it?
[09:25] <popey> I'm working at czajkowski's today so he can play all he wants
[09:25] <foobarry> nice day outside
[09:25] <TwistedLucidity> And he's playing "Minecraft"? Yeesh! Why isn't he out cleaning the garden, paintint the fence or sweeping chimnies? Builds character!
[09:26] <foobarry> i painted the garden gate when i was 5
[09:26] <popey> well, wifey has just organised for him to go to a mates house to play
[09:26] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Lies. I got rained whilst walking the dog.
[09:26] <foobarry> still remember doing it
[09:27] <Myrtti> I've been a good wife and I set up dejadup on dsample's new laptop. Also changed his icon theme which he complained about, installed Evernote thing and now thinking of installing Sublime, too.
[09:27] <TwistedLucidity> I think the concept of "a day off" is lost in my house. I got to work for the break....
[09:27] <foobarry> going science museum next week
[09:27] <foobarry> along with the rest of the planet i expect :S
[09:29] <TwistedLucidity> Thanks for the reminder Myrtti
[09:29] <Myrtti> TwistedLucidity: backups?
[09:29]  * TwistedLucidity makes note to *finally* resolve the back-up strategy
[09:30] <TwistedLucidity> I've got them, but none off-site and not automatic.
[09:30] <TwistedLucidity> Sorting back-ups does not count as "work". Only digging, painting or cleaning counts as "work". Swearing over poorly written documentation is, apparently, "enjoyment" :-(
[09:31] <Myrtti> yeah we should sort out the offsite backups too
[09:31] <foobarry> glacier?
[09:32] <TwistedLucidity> I was going to put an HP MicroServer in a friend's house and back-up there (with me holding his back-ups). But then they stopped making the G3 and upped the price to £silly.
[09:32] <TwistedLucidity> Guess a RasPi2 would more than suffice.
[09:33] <TwistedLucidity> Although the current plan is a few external HDDs and sneakernet.
[09:34] <dutchie> i should fix backups also
[09:34] <Myrtti> we've got both a ReadyNAS and an HP micro
[09:34] <dutchie> currently laptop is backed up, but not desktop because i haven't figured out systemd timers yet
[09:34]  * dutchie uses http://tarsnap.com/
[09:35] <JamesTait> No, no - *yesterday* was backup day. Today is *fun* day. :)
[09:35] <TwistedLucidity> DejaDup, Backula (there's a few others) all seem to be doable. But I need to think how to back-up the VMs as well (maybe just use BTRFS snapshot or something).
[09:35] <JamesTait> AKA finding out your backups don't restore day. ;)
[09:36] <TwistedLucidity> Anyone encrypt their back-ups? How do you do the key management?
[09:37] <dutchie> http://pastie.org/private/jl3s65fdylnq3kjx40iqmg
[09:37] <dutchie> TwistedLucidity: tarsnap!
[09:37] <dutchie> it's the best
[09:38] <TwistedLucidity> Ah...OK. I assume it does incrementals etc etc etc
[09:38] <Myrtti> I should get some coffee and brunch going on
[09:38] <dutchie> see the paste
[09:38] <dutchie> 100G is encrypted/compressed/deduplicated down to 1.2
[09:38] <TwistedLucidity> "--humanize". ROFL
[09:39] <TwistedLucidity> Looks simple enough and seems to do the business.
[09:39] <TwistedLucidity> Just the VMs remain. Back them up as a file...or back-up the data within them?
[09:40] <TwistedLucidity> Data is easiest, but it means having some automagic way to rebuild the image again.
[09:40] <TwistedLucidity> Configure fail2ban, certs yaddah, yaddah, yaddah
[09:41] <TwistedLucidity> I know....I use "teh clowds". Yes. That'll make it all easy.
[09:41] <TwistedLucidity> Why are you laughing?
[11:15]  * davmor2 breaks all of JamesTait code \o/ let the fun commence MUhahahahahahahaha
[11:44] <apt-get-moo> anyone seen google maps pacman edition?
[11:44] <zmoylan-pi> that was so mar 31st :-)
[11:44] <apt-get-moo> lol
[11:44] <popey> heh
[11:44] <apt-get-moo> iirc last year they had 8-bit maps
[12:08] <shauno> gmail is still google's best april fools' joke :|
[12:43] <foobarry> argh i missed the zinio 40% voucher code :( expired yesterday
[12:43] <foobarry> 40% off all subs
[13:21] <knightwise> TwistedLucidity: what are you using to sync over the backups ?
[13:21] <knightwise> bittorrent sync ?
[13:21] <TwistedLucidity> USB cable
[13:21] <popey> syncthing \o/
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> knightwise: Currently using external HDDs....like I say, really need to get it sorted
[13:22] <knightwise> im pushing in house backups to an external disk that is linked to bittorrent sync
[13:22] <diplo> As popey said syncthing \o/
[13:23] <knightwise> that gets synced over to a bittorrent sync drive on a remote machine at my inlaws
[13:23] <diplo> Syncing family / work and home all to my server at home now
[13:23] <knightwise> popey: i tried the 15.04 beta with unity 8 , but it freezes when i try to login
[13:24] <knightwise> i am trying it in a vm
[13:30] <popey> it doesn't work in a vm
[13:32] <foobarry> who carries on playing the lottery after they;'ve won a jackpot?
[13:34] <knightwise> greedy bastards
[13:34] <foobarry> they won £1m jackpot twice
[13:36] <popey> http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/36425154
[13:36] <zmoylan-pi> someone who wants a bigger yacht?
[13:50] <TwistedLucidity> If I won the lottery, you'd wouldn't see me for dust
[13:51] <TwistedLucidity> 'course, I'd have to start actually playing the lottery.....
[13:52] <foobarry> its possible to win it, but pretty much impossible for me to win
[13:52] <zmoylan-pi> they won't let you play your lucky numbers 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, R? :-)
[13:53] <foobarry> the chances of me winning are too small
[13:53] <foobarry> to be considered as a chance
[13:53] <foobarry> if i believed in those chances i wouldn't go out
[13:53] <foobarry> or stay in.
[13:53] <foobarry> too dangerous
[13:54] <zmoylan-pi> i'm so unlucky i don't buy after 8 mints... :-D
[13:54] <foobarry> pints?
[13:55] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Eight
[14:01] <foobarry> mmm
[14:02] <foobarry> they are always in my cupboar
[14:02] <foobarry> d
[14:31] <awilkins> 1/1.4*10^7 chance of winning the UK lottery, approx
[14:31] <awilkins> You have more chance of being struck by lightning
[14:32] <zmoylan-pi> i have almost been struck by lightening
[14:35] <foobarry> you have more chance on a golf course..
[14:36] <zmoylan-pi> i was standing on top of a hill on outcrop overlooking sea. flash and bang were simultaneous
[14:40] <davmor2> knightwise: run it from live cd if you want to play on it
[20:32]  * diddledan levels-off some printer fluid (even ink)
[20:33] <diddledan> evenink folks!
[20:42] <diddledan> https://www.gentoo.org/
[20:43] <diddledan> visit even though it's not a distro you may not appreciate
[20:43] <diddledan> it's a fun redesign of their site
[21:09] <shauno> lol, have you just woke up?
[21:13] <diddledan> nah, been over the parental
[21:16] <shauno> well, I think minecraft won this one :)
[21:17] <diddledan> I've not seen that one
[21:18] <shauno> https://mojang.com/2015/04/minecraft-snapshot-15w14a-the-love-and-hugs-update/
[21:19] <shauno> not only because it's funny, but because the update in question is actually fully implemented, downloadable & playable
[21:21] <shauno> but the little touches, like jumping straight from 1.8 to 1.10 (now that they're owned by msft) made me smile
[21:21] <m0nkey_> they need to keep their site like that
[21:23] <m0nkey_> yikes. $1100 for my PC build.
[21:24] <directhex> that all?
[21:24] <directhex> pcpartpicker says i have GBP2K left to spend, 500 already spent
[21:24] <directhex> if only i had some money
[21:25] <m0nkey_> anyone using a gtx960 with ubuntu?
[21:26] <m0nkey_> more specifically.. the Asus STRIX gtx960?
[21:29] <directhex> needs the 346 driver. is that in ubuntu?
[21:30] <m0nkey_> there's a ppa for it
[21:39] <m0nkey_> hmm.. do I use credit card or paypal to pay?