[00:03] <BlackDalek> hmmm.. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the mac says it is "paired" with the ubuntu computer, but not "connected".. Perhaps sending files via bluetooth from mac to ubuntu is just impossible?
[00:05] <avansledright> bluetooth is platform independent
[00:06] <avansledright> as long as the devices are paired and connected it should be possible
[00:06] <avansledright> question is why would you send files via bluetooth? are they not networked?
[00:08] <BlackDalek> avansledright, yeah... they are not currently networked. My ubuntu computer does not belong on here at this location where the mac is. Just thought bluetooth might be a quick way to transfer the files instead of connecting it temporarily to the network.
[00:08] <BlackDalek> avansledright, but not to worry. I just emailed it instead.
[00:09] <avansledright> BlackDalek always a viable option
[00:12] <nik_unity> hi
[00:12] <nik_unity> I am seeing errors when trying to access https pages in ubuntu
[00:12] <nik_unity> running apache2
[00:12] <nik_unity> ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[00:12] <nik_unity>     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
[00:12] <nik_unity> this is what I see
[00:12] <nik_unity> can someone help me troubleshoot this
[00:13] <avansledright> nik_unity your security settings are too high
[00:13] <nik_unity> avansledright like which settings
[00:13] <nik_unity> file permissions?
[00:13] <avansledright> more than likely your actual browser settings
[00:13] <owl_> flash crashes most of the time when I resize the video in youtube
[00:14] <avansledright> nik_unity also check http://stackoverflow.com/questions/119336/ssl-error-rx-record-too-long-and-apache-ssl
[00:14] <avansledright> owl_ is flash properly installed?
[00:14] <owl_> how can I tell if it's "properly" installed? It runs most of the time.
[00:15] <owl_> I have adobe-flashplayer
[00:15] <avansledright> have you updated it?
[00:16] <owl_> avansledright: yes
[00:17] <owl_> adobe-flashplugin*
[00:17] <avansledright> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ does your version match the up to date list in the lower box?
[00:18] <true78_> ok i post my error at paste.ubuntu.com now what
[00:18] <zykotick9> true78_: you need to share the actual link
[00:19] <true78_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10715566/
[00:19] <owl_> avansledright: yes, 11.2...
[00:19] <_X_C_V_B_> I need a good gtk theme
[00:20] <avansledright> owl_ what browser are you using?
[00:20] <owl_> avansledright: firefox
[00:20] <bprompt> owl_:      you don't happen to run google chrome by any chance?  or chromium?
[00:20] <owl_> no I wouldn't install them on my pristine OS
[00:20] <owl_> what's software made by an advertising company called? adware
[00:21] <avansledright> owl_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[00:21] <bprompt> owl_:    just as a note, adobe has stopped, for a while, support for flash,  however, chromium-engine browsers, include the flash plugin, chromium or opera-beta or google chrome, come with flash 15
[00:21] <owl_> gnash worth considering?
[00:22] <bprompt> owl_:   I'd say, nope, I've never used it, but reviews on it, wern't so great
[00:22] <nik_unity> avansledright
[00:22] <nik_unity> stackoverflow link helped
[00:22] <true78_> is lightspark any good for flash?
[00:23] <nik_unity> I did run this command
[00:23] <nik_unity> a2ensite default-ssl
[00:23] <nik_unity> before
[00:23] <avansledright> did you reboot apache after you ran that command?
[00:23] <nik_unity> after running that and restarting
[00:23] <nik_unity> now I did
[00:23] <nik_unity> before I remember I did
[00:24] <nik_unity> and rebooted the machine multiple times, before trying the same thing now again
[00:24] <nik_unity> any way thanks!! avansledright
[00:24] <avansledright> nick_unity no problem!
[00:25] <tgm4883> true78_: perhaps one of the linaro channels would be able to help https://www.linaro.org/contact/irc/
[00:27] <k1l> true78_: you could ask in #ubuntu-arm or ask the community who supports your arm board for experience with that issue
[00:28] <ooppss> hello I am trying to mount an encrypted Ubuntu home dir from a live Lubuntu stick
[00:29] <ooppss> i checked out this guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[00:29] <ooppss> because ecryptfs-recover-private does not work
[00:29] <ooppss> so then i tried this steps http://askubuntu.com/questions/31675/decrypt-home-from-separate-partition-after-re-install/34169#34169
[00:29] <avansledright> ooppss check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940904
[00:31] <ooppss> avansledright: but i dont have lvm, just encrypted home dir
[00:32] <avansledright> how was it encrypted?
[00:32] <ooppss> it asks you on install to encrypt it, and then i gave my login password
[00:32] <ooppss> so the passphrase = my login password
[00:32] <avansledright> http://askubuntu.com/questions/238047/how-do-i-mount-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-another-ubuntu-machine
[00:33] <ooppss> ecryptfs-recover-private used to work fine but now doesn't
[00:34] <ooppss> avansledright: yeah those seem the steps that  i followed, but when i mount my homedir, the filenames are like ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWb2-z7jOWonC-Tnab9zTUbFH25CpbGxm1facc.k6XnI5ESwszY--
[00:36] <avansledright> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[00:36] <avansledright> another article.
[00:37] <avansledright> that one is much more in-depth ooppss
[00:57] <AgentBridges> setting up some image compression tools, steps say to install libjepg. i tried but nothing in apt-get that is exact match, tons of options, not sure which to pick: http://pastie.org/10065942
[00:57] <apt-get> hello apt-get reporting in
[00:58] <rootraid> hello
[00:59] <daftykins> hi
[01:10] <Guest76952> join #ubuntu-cn
[01:11] <daftykins> you need a /
[01:11] <`hypermist`> Sorry k1l its my znc when i disconnect from irc it changes
[01:38] <Audaces> How do you add things to the path on Ubuntu?
[01:40] <somsip> Audaces: export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[01:40] <Audaces> ty
[01:41] <Audaces> somsip, just for interest tho where is the actual path file at?7
[01:42] <somsip> Audaces: usually that would be added to .bashrc, .profile or .bash_aliases. It's an environmental variables possibly set up in /etc/bashrc
[01:42] <Audaces> Thanks
[01:44] <Audaces> somsip, I have alias update='sudo apt-get update' added to .profile yet in terminal there is no change
[01:44] <apt-get> hello apt-get here
[01:44] <Audaces> hellos
[01:45] <somsip> Audaces: . ~/.profile to effect the changes
[01:45] <Audaces> ah
[01:45] <Audaces> I just ran sudo .profile
[01:45] <somsip> Audaces: and you need to ". ~/.profile" or "source ~/.profile" (. is shorthand for source)
[01:46] <hc0d3r> i trying compile a file, but it fails
[01:46] <hc0d3r> undefined reference to symbol: «CRYPTO_malloc@@OPENSSL_1.0.0»
[01:46] <hc0d3r> i have compile with flags -ldl -lssl -lcrypto
[01:46] <Audaces> somsip is there anyway to auto run that on boot?
[01:47] <hc0d3r> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[01:47] <somsip> Audaces: .profile runs when you open a new terminal
[01:47] <veebull> Just noticed that the right-click menu on the launcher icons isn't working anymore on my desktop...?
[01:47] <Audaces> my alias doesnt work without running the ". ~/.profile"
[01:48] <somsip> Audaces: my preference is to put them in .bash_aliases which is run every time a new shell is created. NOt sure if .profile might only get triggered on login...
[01:49] <veebull> no way to open a new window or instance of any of the apps in my dock
[01:49] <hc0d3r> any help ? :)
[01:51] <estudiante> hello
[01:51] <daftykins> hi
[01:51] <hc0d3r> hi
[01:51] <hc0d3r> anyone can help me ?
[01:52] <estudiante> vcxz
[01:52] <daftykins> !patience | hc0d3r
[01:52] <estudiante> De donde eres?
[01:52] <Audaces> hc0d3r what are you trying to compile?
[01:52] <uflaig> help, storage devices are not automounting anymore!
[01:52] <daftykins> english only please, estudiante - #ubuntu-es for Spanish
[01:52] <uflaig> Why is that?
[01:53] <estudiante> Wtf
[01:53] <Audaces> uflaig I have issues with mtp devices mounting at all :/
[01:53] <hc0d3r> Audaces,  i code made by a friend, sorry for flood
[01:53] <estudiante> .l.
[01:53] <uflaig> Audaces: what do you mean by that
[01:54] <somsip> hc0d3r: then you wont get support here. Maybe ##c or ask your friend
[01:54] <daftykins> estudiante: either ask a support question in English, go to #ubuntu-es for Spanish, or #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[01:54] <estudiante> Chupame la pija
[01:55] <daftykins> estudiante: it's very childish to hide behind another language and be rude to someone who is just telling you the rules :)
[01:55] <rishikl> Hi
[01:55] <Audaces> Hello
[01:55] <estudiante> Hello
[01:56] <uflaig> my device is not automounting anymore
[01:56] <AegNuddel> ok I keep getting system program error
[01:56] <daftykins> uflaig: what file system is it?
[01:56] <rishikl> how to check from which ip http request is coming
[01:56] <AegNuddel> yhe package is ntp
[01:56] <AegNuddel> the
[01:56] <neldogz> is it true that the Ubuntu server kernel is diffrent from the desktop version?
[01:56] <daftykins> neldogz: no, not been true for years
[01:57] <daftykins> used to be.
[01:57] <uflaig> daftykins: ntfs, when I mount it by hand (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 testfolder), it works
[01:57] <daftykins> uflaig: ah ok, i wondered if it might not have been safely unmounted previous. no idea then
[01:57] <uflaig> my issue is really just that it doesn't automount when I plug in this device via usb
[01:58] <neldogz> daftykins: in the official Ubuntu book (8th edition) it states that the most significant diffrence between the two is the custom server kernel. This kernel employs an internal timer frequency of 100hz instead of the desktop default of 250hz and uses the deadline I/O scheduler instead of the desktop CFQ scheduler.. also states that it contains a batch of other minor tweaks for virtualization, memory support and routing
[01:59] <AegNuddel> a few weeks ago I upgraded to percise, and this issue has been going on since the start
[01:59] <daftykins> neldogz: mmhmm, out of date book ;)
[02:00]  * AegNuddel wonders if there is any way to copy the info in the crash log
[02:00] <neldogz> daftykins: this isthe most recent book covering Ubuntu 14, published last year
[02:01] <somsip> !pasebinit | Audaces
[02:01] <daftykins> neldogz: unless it's referring to the low latency kernel, it's wrong
[02:01] <geosmin> how difficult would it be to install ubuntu to a btrfs subvolume?
[02:01] <somsip> !pastebinit | Audaces
[02:02] <neldogz> daftykins: well then it is a diffrent kernel then isnt it?
[02:02] <daftykins> neldogz: *sigh* but i'm the one joining the dots suggesting that's what they might mean, *BUT* server does not use the LL kernel by default.
[02:02] <daftykins> so it's still wrong
[02:02] <Audaces> pastebin my mtp mounting errors somsip?
[02:03] <AegNuddel> I have the report a problem window.  I can get a log of the information.  What I would like to know is if there is a way to copy this information...
[02:03] <neldogz> daftykins: reason i am asking is because I have read lots of conflicting information online, figured i buy the book.. per the statement above one would have to assume its the kernel that is installed by default
[02:03] <daftykins> !manual
[02:03] <daftykins> neldogz: just a guess but i wonder if they speak of this in the above
[02:03] <eikon81g> AegNuddel, you could just submit it using the tool..? I believe to look into the issue manually you need to use a debugger
[02:04] <somsip> AegNuddel: use a pastebin, or take a screenshot and use that in an image pastebin if it's a GUI window
[02:04] <neldogz> daftykins: the manual ?
[02:04] <AegNuddel> yes a gui window
[02:04] <daftykins> sounds a bit basic come to think of it
[02:04] <daftykins> anyway i'm off o/
[02:04] <AegNuddel> may take a few to get all info lol
[02:04] <eikon81g> later daftykins
[02:05] <somsip> !paste | AegNuddel
[02:05] <AegNuddel> I have reported but I don't think that will do much.  I have before too.
[02:05] <eikon81g> what's the issue? have you actually looked into the bug reports or reports that seem related to your issue?
[02:06] <eikon81g> They may already have an open report on it AegNuddel
[02:06] <AegNuddel> ntpd crashes
[02:06] <AegNuddel> er ntp
[02:06] <AegNuddel> no d
[02:06] <eikon81g> clamscan -r --bell -i /are you using Ubuntu 14.04? I know I am on XFCE and it's all bugged out trying to use ntp
[02:06] <AegNuddel> oh wait
[02:06] <eikon81g> it's been reported and is a known issue..
[02:06] <neldogz> daftykins: TheUbuntuServerEditionisanoperatingsystemoptimizedtoperform multi-usertasks.
[02:06] <AegNuddel> yes d
[02:07] <AegNuddel> in another spot
[02:07] <neldogz> daftykins: pulled that out of the ubunut-manual.. so it is an optimized kernel
[02:07] <AegNuddel> ah
[02:07] <daftykins> no.
[02:07] <eikon81g> sorry I accidentally pasted a command I was using. lol
[02:07] <daftykins> it's the same kernel
[02:07] <AegNuddel> ok so it's not just me
[02:07] <daftykins> neldogz: but i'm leaving now so no more highlights please :)
[02:07] <eikon81g> Aeg what are you running? XFCE 14.10 is affected..
[02:08] <eikon81g> they say it's fixed in 15.04
[02:08] <neldogz> daftykins: why are you denying the fact that its an optimized kernel?
[02:08] <neldogz> daftykins: its in the book and the manual
[02:08] <eikon81g> technically you could try to install ntpd from the software center but I think I hit a hitch doing that as well so I stuck with manual settings and just check it periodically to make sure it's staying up to date..
[02:09] <eikon81g> For instance if your time resets everytime you power down then you may need to change out your cmos battery on the MoBo
[02:09] <daftykins> neldogz: because i don't interpret that sentence the same as you - and they're the *exact* same package on both desktop and server :)
[02:09] <daftykins> now i am off
[02:10] <AegNuddel> er trying to find it
[02:10] <neldogz> daftykins: while it might be the same package.. it is modified
[02:10] <daftykins> no you don't understand, but i'm done now :)
[02:10] <AegNuddel> er trying to find itwhere do I look for that info again?
[02:10] <eikon81g> tomato tomaato..
[02:11] <eikon81g> for the version OS you are running?
[02:11] <neldogz> daftykins: trying to have the last word doesnt mean you are right
[02:11] <AegNuddel> yes
[02:11] <eikon81g> I use hardinfo it's simple I would download it from the software center and when it installs open it and hit Operating System and it details the machines info there
[02:11] <daftykins> i was actually beginning to get the same impression of yourself, as you seem to insist on coming back :) but that's cool, i just don't have the time to pander to your obsessive opinion :)
[02:11] <AegNuddel> 12.04 I think
[02:11] <daftykins> goodnight
[02:12] <AegNuddel> but not sure
[02:12] <eikon81g> in terminal type: uname -a
[02:12] <neldogz> daftykins: its not obession.. it's fact vs your opinion on what you perceived
[02:12] <eikon81g> you know what that wont give you your ubuntu version only the kernal info
[02:12] <eikon81g> 1 sec
[02:13] <AegNuddel> Linux briana-laptop 3.2.0-77-generic #114-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 10 17:25:28 UTC 2015 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[02:13] <AegNuddel> briana@briana-laptop:~$
[02:13] <AegNuddel> oh heh
[02:13] <eikon81g> ok lsb_release -a
[02:13] <eikon81g> try that one..
[02:14] <eikon81g> I would still get hardinfo from the software center..
[02:14] <eikon81g> it's a good one.
[02:14] <neldogz> Anyone here from Canonical can confirm whether or not the server version of Ubuntu contains an optimized kernel?
[02:14] <eikon81g> !ubuntu_server
[02:15] <eikon81g> !ubuntu-server
[02:15] <eikon81g> try there neldogz
[02:15] <AegNuddel> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[02:15] <cxdvty> Is torrenting programs illegal?
[02:15] <eikon81g> depends on your country's copyright laws cxdvty
[02:15] <neldogz> eikon81g: thank you for that.. that confirms it
[02:16] <eikon81g> here in the US it is.. cxdvty
[02:16] <AegNuddel> cxdvty, it also depends on the program.
[02:16] <eikon81g> np neldogz
[02:16] <cxdvty> eikon81g:If I use tor browser can people see what I am doing?
[02:16] <neldogz> daftykins: ^^
[02:16] <AegNuddel> If a program is freeware, and allows unabated sharing ...
[02:16] <eikon81g> also yes, if the software is licensed and copy written it would be illegal to share and use that program. .
[02:16] <rww> depends on the license
[02:17] <goddard> i am using gdm and i changed the desktop to system default and it is just an X how can i get back to the GDM login screen if my account auto logins?
[02:17] <rww> Linux is "licensed and copy written", for example
[02:17] <eikon81g> rww good point
[02:17] <AegNuddel> it is?
[02:17] <cxdvty> !trusty
[02:17] <rww> AegNuddel: yes, Linux is distributed under the GNU General Public License v2, which is a copyright license
[02:18] <AegNuddel> I did not know that.
[02:18] <eikon81g> any way the torbrowser packages uses proxies and a setup that more or less hides your activity
[02:19] <eikon81g> cxdvty, you would also want to use a vpn service like hide.me or something
[02:19] <eikon81g> and a torbrowser package..
[02:19] <eikon81g> and not your credit card to pay for services, use bitcoins.. just saying
[02:20] <eikon81g> good luck, that convo would prolly go to ubuntu-offtopic
[02:20] <eikon81g> !off-topic
[02:20] <monk12> hello all, im trying to install MST support for my laptop/dock cause whenever I try to extend my monitor, it stretches the desktop and then kinda freezes ubuntu (mirroring is fine though)...
[02:21] <AegNuddel> I wonder if my issue has to do anything with the fact that my computer had not been turned on since 2009, and I had to manually reset the date to get it working...
[02:21] <eikon81g> monk12, did you install proprietary drivers for your video card or are you using the default one?
[02:21] <cxdvty> Is torrenting photoshop illegal
[02:21] <monk12> i see these instructions under the Linux Kernel area:  ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1296656
[02:21] <AegNuddel> YES cxdvty
[02:21] <monk12> AegNuddel, Im using nvidia-346 and not the Intel drivers (Optimus)
[02:21] <daftykins> aww neldogz quit
[02:21] <cxdvty> what abnout sony vegas?
[02:21] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/31081/whats-the-difference-between-the-server-version-and-the-desktop-version
[02:22] <AegNuddel> YES cxdvty
[02:22] <daftykins> ah well, peeps can enjoy their blissful ignorance :)
[02:22] <eikon81g> AegNuddel, it's prolly your cmos battery, does the time stay correct when you unplug the power supply and let it sit for 30 seconds and plug it back in? Or does it go to 12:00A
[02:22] <eikon81g> ?
[02:22] <daftykins> server kernel == desktop kernel
[02:22] <AegNuddel> it stays.
[02:22] <semitones> Hello! I have a problem with my laptop trackpad. When I resume from suspend, the trackpad behaves erratically. It's acting this way right now. Can I have someone's assistance in troubleshooting?
[02:22] <eikon81g> cxdvty, use gimp!
[02:22] <eikon81g> !gimp
[02:22] <monk12> in that thread i posted, it says ins in the 'mainline kernel since version 3.17... so since i have ubuntu 14.10, kernel 3.18.9, does that mean i should have MST support and no need to dl that kernel?
[02:23] <cxdvty> is gimp easy to use and as advanced as photoshop?
[02:23] <eikon81g> aeg if it stays then you may be good on the battery
[02:24] <eikon81g> one it's set in the BIOS and you set your time/date and region it should stay on your machine.. is it like losing or gaining an hour?
[02:24] <OerHeks> cxdvty, photoshop is not that easy, gimp is less powerfull
[02:24] <monk12> eikon81g, whoops meant to address my comment to you. using nvidia-346. and not the Intel graphics (could use prime-switch to switch to Intel if MST support is better on Intel)
[02:24] <eikon81g> but gimp is free and you wont have to break the law to use it..
[02:24] <AegNuddel> eikon81g, no... it even update for daylight savings time right
[02:25] <eikon81g> so you are just wanting to use ntp?
[02:25] <AegNuddel> eikon81g, I'm just wanting the error to disappear!
[02:26] <eikon81g> monk12, that is a good question, I am no expert but I would say that google may lead you in the right direction with that.. I wouldn't know which is better but if one is not working you could always try the other, ya know..?
[02:26] <eikon81g> lol AegNuddel, ocd much...?
[02:26] <cxdvty> what do you do for fun on ubuntu lol
[02:26] <eikon81g> jk did you try to install ntp from terminal?
[02:26] <eikon81g> cxdvty, learn..
[02:27] <eikon81g> what do you do for fun on Windows? Why is the sky blue..?
[02:27] <eikon81g> lol
[02:28] <eikon81g> I just like learning, I am really well equipped on windows but I am enjoying linux and learning more every day
[02:28] <monk12> yah. i was just wondering based on that wording on that page (posted the wrong one: http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/thinkpad-ultradock-screens.htm )...  "[the kernel patches] are integrated in the mainline kernel since version 3.17 . " does that mean the 3.18 kernel  def would have that patch then?
[02:28] <monk12> eikon81g, ^
[02:28] <AegNuddel> disagree about GIMP being LESS powerful.  So many plug-ins available.  If you literally installed them all (for which you would need an impossible amount of space) you'd have a pogram many times more capable than Photosh .. op (I was tempted to make those last two letters I T !)
[02:28] <eikon81g> monk12, yea, no need to add them manually..
[02:28] <cxdvty> skateboarding games on ubuntu?
[02:28] <AegNuddel> eikon81g,  just gets annoying at times
[02:28] <eikon81g> lol AegNuddel
[02:29] <monk12> eikon81g, darn k. still not working. let me try switching to the Intel graphics driver and retrying it. thanks eikon81g
[02:29] <eikon81g> cxdvty, get genymotion and play some android apks
[02:29] <eikon81g> np
[02:29] <semitones> Let me try asking in a different way -- anyone know how to ask my laptop to redetect the trackpad?
[02:29] <eikon81g> may need to log out and back in after making changes to graphics..
[02:29] <eikon81g> just a thought
[02:29] <cxdvty> how do i play android games on my pc when most of them are for touch screen
[02:30] <eikon81g> semitones, do you have a hardkey in the Fkeys that disable / enables it?
[02:30] <eikon81g> does it show up in hardinfo semitones ??
[02:30] <eikon81g> cxdvty, yet another learning experience.. let us know :P
[02:31] <eikon81g> someone else was having an issue with a track pad the other night semitones his drivers were not installed..
[02:31] <semitones> eikon81g: I do, but that hardkey doesn't function properly in #ubuntu. What happens is, if my laptop is ever suspended for a significant amount of time, when it resumes, the trackpad is all screwy. The pointer doesn't move very far, sometimes it scrolls the screen when you try to move the pointer up or down, etc. Everything i've tried doesn't fix it, but after 5 or 10 minutes sometimes it goes back to normal. I've been watching /var/log/syslog th
[02:31] <eikon81g> hardinfo will tell you if it is detected and installed..
[02:32] <semitones> oh my bad
[02:32] <eikon81g> semitones, maybe you can bind a new key to function it?
[02:32] <eikon81g> then once you suspend and come back to the machine you can just enable/disable..
[02:33] <eikon81g> it's not the driver. . it's something else good info there..
[02:33] <eikon81g> I am a newbie so maybe someone else can chime in here too..
[02:33] <eikon81g> is it like a SUPER-F button that enables / disables the keyboard?
[02:34] <semitones> eikon81g: I'm installing hardinfo now. The trackpad on/off button works in windows, but in ubuntu it just displays a notification, but doesn't do anything with the trackpad
[02:34] <semitones> eikon81g: it's a separate button all by itself that turns red when the trackpad is off. In ubuntu, pressing it doesn't make it turn red
[02:34] <eikon81g> humm when the issue pops up have you tried to enable/disable?
[02:34] <eikon81g> ok ok
[02:34] <eikon81g> humm
[02:35] <semitones> eikon81g: I've tried modprobing it on and off, but that doesn't work
[02:35] <eikon81g> then you are a step ahead of me..
[02:35] <eikon81g> so maybe you can make a script to disable and re-enable the driver when you resume?
[02:37] <semitones> eikon81g: how do I find what the driver is?
[02:37] <eikon81g> look at this semitones
[02:37] <eikon81g> http://ubuntuguide.net/quickly-enabledisable-laptop-touchpad-with-touchpad-indicator-in-ubuntu-10-10
[02:38] <eikon81g> in the hardinfo program under devices > input devices
[02:38] <eikon81g> mine is a synaptic.. "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
[02:38] <semitones> eikon81g: I see input devices under general information (ALPS) but under input devices there's nothing
[02:38] <eikon81g> humm is it working now?
[02:39] <semitones> eikon81g: yes
[02:40] <semitones> eikon81g: /var/log/syslog says the following (but it says this even when the trackpad is malfunctioning) Mar 31 22:20:24 linuxlaptop kernel: [23001.791637] input: ALPS PS/2 Device as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input20
[02:40] <semitones> Mar 31 22:20:24 linuxlaptop kernel: [23001.822063] input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input19
[02:40] <eikon81g> ok
[02:40] <eikon81g> so it looks like it's atleast recognized..
[02:41] <eikon81g> did you see that trackpad indicator that they were using on the link I posted?
[02:41] <eikon81g> I wonder if using something like that would make it quit bugging out..?
[02:42] <eikon81g> it's from a ppa couldn't hurt to try if you want..?
[02:42] <eikon81g> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:atareao/atareao
[02:42] <eikon81g> sudo apt-get update
[02:42] <eikon81g> sudo apt-get install touchpad-indicator
[02:43] <apt-get> argh
[02:43] <eikon81g> lol whoops.
[02:43] <eikon81g> if that works then it trumps the script
[02:44] <viGtor_> hi! I'm using a 15Gb partition for / and now with almost everything installed i still have 10 free GB, i still need to install some stuff (cinelerra for example) and I'm afraid of running out of spaces... Should it get a bigger partition?
[02:44] <eikon81g> viGtor_, the saying goes, bigger is better.. LOL
[02:45] <viGtor_> fresh install is what is killing me :(
[02:45] <viGtor_> i have an 8 GB free partition, could i merge both?
[02:45] <viGtor_> without reinstallin i mean
[02:45] <eikon81g> did you install with VMS
[02:45] <eikon81g> ?
[02:45] <viGtor_> no idea :S
[02:46] <eikon81g> it was an option when I installed that supposedly made changing partition sizes easier
[02:46] <eikon81g> i think it was VMS. smh.
[02:46] <viGtor_> i choose a custom partition table so i guess i don't
[02:47] <eikon81g> viGtor_, it was LVM!! lol I am out of it..
[02:47] <viGtor_> no i don't
[02:47] <eikon81g> look here..http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[02:48] <viGtor_> so 15 GB is not enough
[02:48] <eikon81g> I mean for me.. no
[02:48] <semitones> eikon81g: I saw the trackpad indicator but noticed that it's not updated for 14.04?
[02:48] <eikon81g> but if you have a decent sized external drive then you could prolly make it work just clean up after updates and installs..
[02:49] <eikon81g> this is on that page: Touchpad indicator is developed by atareao team, available in the PPA for Ubuntu 14.04, Ubuntu 13.10, Ubuntu 12.04.
[02:49] <eikon81g> is it missing from the PPA?
[02:52] <nmatrix9> What's the ubuntu chan to talk about off topic stuff?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> nmatrix9: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <eikon81g> !off-topic
[02:53] <nmatrix9> Thanks
[02:58] <semitones> eikon81g: ok, yeah it looks like it works actually. It's funny. In the preferences, none of the preferences do anything, but it did succeed in turning off my trackpad (i had to kill it via terminal, then modprobe psmouse to get it back :) So we'll see if it works next time I get the suspend problem
[02:59] <eikon81g> humm sounds liek you have a good handle on it, you are more talented than I.. glad I could atleast point you in a direction.. :P
[03:00] <semitones> eikon81g: I don't know really :p i've just been bashing myself at this problem for longer :)
[03:01] <semitones> eikon81g: this program won't work actually I think -- it's "keyboard shortcut" feature for enabling and disabling the trackpad won't actually do anything
[03:01] <eikon81g> lol, I am new to linux but it made sense in my head what needed to be done. glad you have a suitable fix for now..
[03:01] <semitones> eikon81g: do you know if there's any way to see what the program is doing when it does it?
[03:02] <eikon81g> bummer. yea, killing and modprobing sounds like the way to go..
[03:02] <eikon81g> that's a good question too.. i really don't
[03:03] <eikon81g> let me ask someone..
[03:03] <eikon81g> what program was it again?
[03:03] <eikon81g> the name of it..?
[03:04] <Aeiortv> Ubuntu's deal with Amazon is back on, check it out. Amazon just uploaded a video about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[03:04] <eikon81g> the indicator right?
[03:05] <eikon81g> too bad, I thought you were gonna rick roll us Aeiortv
[03:05] <eikon81g> oh wait.
[03:05] <TikiTika> Aeiortv, So why you want to share with us?
[03:05] <Aeiortv> april fools <3
[03:05] <cfhowlett> TikiTika, what day is today?
[03:05] <Ben64> Aeiortv: not here please
[03:05] <TikiTika> cfhowlett, April 1st
[03:05] <TikiTika> Fool day
[03:05] <eikon81g> !off-topic
[03:05] <Aeiortv> sorry ben64
[03:05] <eikon81g> lol
[03:06] <tunadogx> Screen turns off watching flash video
[03:06] <eikon81g> I gotta jet guys good luck. later semitones
[03:06] <eikon81g> !flash
[03:08] <tunadogx> eikon81g: it's installed. Screen turns off watching flash movies.
[03:08] <Ben64> screen turns off how, like screensaver?
[03:08] <farzeen> I get this error when executing some programs in ubuntu. What does this mean? "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 18995, errno = 11"
[03:08] <eikon81g> this is good..
[03:09] <tunadogx> Ben64 yes
[03:09] <Ben64> ok so turn off the screensaver or set it longer or something
[03:10] <farzeen> deleting ~/.ICEAuthority fixed it :)
[03:10] <Ben64> farzeen: be more careful what you use sudo for
[03:11] <tunadogx> Ben64: that's bummed
[03:11] <eikon81g> farzeen, I was reading that on another page.. your issue was intriguing
[03:11] <thomasha`> how can I tell what version of a package (libleveldb-dev) I installed with apt-get?
[03:12] <eikon81g> that was someone else's workaround as well
[03:12] <Ben64> thomasha`: apt-cache policy <package>
[03:12] <eikon81g> !synaptic
[03:12] <thomasha`> thx
[03:12] <eikon81g> night all
[03:13] <farzeen> thanks Ben64. do you know what might have caused that issue?
[03:13] <Ben64> farzeen: yes, improper usage of sudo, which is why i said be more careful
[03:14] <farzeen> like what?
[03:14] <Ben64> using it with graphical programs
[03:14] <wiak> does anyone know why this sed '/chmod=0700/a chown=rtorrent:rtorrent' /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf  command dont work?
[03:14] <wiak> am i missing quotes?
[03:14] <farzeen> I use sudo with gedit to edit config files
[03:15] <somsip> wiak: sed -i 's/pattern/changed' file
[03:15] <somsip> !gksudo | farzeen
[03:15] <Ben64> farzeen: use nano maybe
[03:16] <farzeen> thanks Ben64, somsip
[03:19] <wiak> somsip sed -i '/chmod=0700/a chown=rtorrent:rtorrent' /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf
[03:19] <wiak> taht works bettere
[03:19] <wiak> :p
[03:20] <somsip> wiak: I'm surprised it works at all without 's/...' but there you go
[03:22] <Christopher-Were> Hi, I was wondering if you could help me. I looked on the Lubuntu IRC but nobody could fix it. I'm trying to get Lubuntu running on a VirtualBox VM and after install it's stuck in an 640x480 resolution. I've tried installing the Guest addons but that hasn't solved the problem
[03:23] <farzeen> try this command "xrandr -s 800x600"
[03:24] <farzeen> or you may try typing 'lxrandr' (without quotes) in a terminal, Christophere-Were
[03:25] <farzeen> *Chritopher-Were
[03:25] <farzeen> *Christopher-Were
[03:25] <somsip> !tab| farzeen
[03:25] <farzeen> wow! thanks somsip
[03:25] <fcomtois> Does anyone have experience mounting AFP shares using dolphin ?
[03:26] <Christopher-Were> "Size not found in available modules"
[03:26] <farzeen> oops!
[03:27] <farzeen> Christopher-Were, type xrandr only without any args and pastebin the output
[03:29] <Christopher-Were> http://pastebin.com/esL4grdH
[03:29] <AegNuddel> did you say there was an alternate program to ntp?
[03:30] <farzeen> Christopher-Were, are you using the latest virtualbox?
[03:31] <bodhi_zazen> Christopher-Were, not sure about VBOX, but KVM + spice rocks
[03:31] <Christopher-Were> It says I'm running the latest version. I've tried KVM on Quemu and I'm not impressed
[03:32] <farzeen> hmm.. could you post the vbox and lubuntu version here
[03:33] <Christopher-Were> It Lubuntu 15.04 beta and Virtualbox is 4.3.26
[03:33] <Ben64> you need to head over to #ubuntu+1 for support with 15.04
[03:34] <farzeen> i suspect that the beta version has broken support for virtual box display drivers :(
[03:35] <ericb_> I've got a lamp server running, and need help with port forwarding to view the server over the internet. Got a static IP, forwarded listening ports in my router, but it's not resolving to the lamp server. Read something about /etc/apache2/ports.conf and I don't know what to do with this. Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:35] <bodhi_zazen> Christopher-Were, http://askubuntu.com/questions/12578/adjusting-display-geometry-in-a-virtual-machine
[03:39] <farzeen> Christopher-Were, try sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11
[03:42] <ericb__> I've got a lamp server running, and need help with port forwarding to view the server over the internet. Got a static IP, forwarded listening ports in my router, but it's not resolving to the lamp server. Read something about /etc/apache2/ports.conf and I don't know what to do with this. Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:42] <avansledright> forward port 80 on your router to whatever port you have apache broadcasting on
[03:47] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: first of all, what's not resolving?
[03:48] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: resolving usually refers to DNS. Is that the problem?
[03:49] <Audaces> Whats the difference between 14.04 and 14.10?
[03:49] <ericb__> zerowaitstate:i meant resolving generally. the server is connected fine. im just not able to access it when i type in my ip, even though the ports are set to forward to it, it's acting like they're not
[03:49] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: what computer are you typing the IP from (one from your internal network, or one from the internet) ?
[03:50] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: the reason i ask is because some NAT routers will not loop back their external interface address
[03:51] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: yep, tried nat loopback (not sure if I did it right,) but I cant access it from my mobile phone or my pc on the same network
[03:51] <Audaces> I don't seem to be getting an option to upgrade to 14.1
[03:51] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: can you access it from your phone on the carrier network?
[03:51] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: nope
[03:52] <Christopher-Were> i'll try that now farzeen
[03:52] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: do you have the INPUT chain on iptables set to default deny?
[03:53] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: unless it is set as such by default no. ive got ufw installed but disabled. when i try to access my ip it shows a 404 page that is being sent from my router (it displayed before port forwarding)
[03:54] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: are you able to access the site from your internal network via the private IP?
[03:54] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: yes
[03:55] <zerowaitstate> ports.conf will not help you then. ports.conf controls what ports on the linux host apache listens on.  if you can access via internal network, then ports.conf is working
[03:55] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: are you running virtual hosts in apache?
[03:55] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: kk thats what I was hoping. well it has to be something misconfigured in the router then right?
[03:56] <ericb__> zerowaitstate:  nope
[03:56] <zerowaitstate> okay, then I'm thinking it is the router
[03:56] <zerowaitstate> you can run "tail -f" on the /var/log/apache2/access.log (I think that's right) to see incoming HTTP requests
[03:56] <zerowaitstate> that should help you determine if stuff is actually hitting the box or not
[03:57] <zerowaitstate> alternatively run tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log to see malformed requests
[03:57] <Christopher-Were> Thanks farzeen, that works
[03:58] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: remember, if you are using standard port numbering, then port 80 is HTTP and 443 is HTTPS
[03:58] <cfhowlett> woah, what?!  Suddenly, my /filesystem partition is completely full ... AND I have some kind of "overflow" partition active.  What the hey?  Where do I look to fix this?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10716394/
[04:01] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Sudden equals look at logs, no ?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, yeah, just trying to locate which log is relevant
[04:02] <zerowaitstate> /var/log/syslog
[04:02] <cfhowlett> zerowaitstate, thank you.  reading ...
[04:03] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: cd /var/log ->> sudo du -sx * | sort -n . see which is so large .
[04:03] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: nothing in the error log. i noticed that the ports.conf file said 80 and 443 in a couple of places. i checked what ports are listening and 80 was not listed but 443 was
[04:06] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: are you accessing your site from port 80 or 443 in your tests?
[04:06] <zerowaitstate> i.e., are you using HTTP or HTTPS?
[04:06] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, found it, last entry = a 4 gb!  log
[04:07] <cfhowlett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10716394/
[04:07] <zerowaitstate> that's the same pastebin
[04:07] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: im not sure, ive configured both to forward. do you mean using the private ip? how can I determine what port it is successfully accessing it through?
[04:08] <zerowaitstate> eric did you use http:// or https:// in your browser?  is there a lock icon...?
[04:08] <zerowaitstate> what is the output of a2ensite?
[04:11] <ericb__> zerowaitstate:  originally tried http:// and just tried https and got "secure connection failed: improperly formated der-encoded message" also i don't know what a2ensite is
[04:11] <zerowaitstate> a2ensite / a2dissite are commands in ubuntu for enabling / disabling particular sites within your apache config
[04:12] <zerowaitstate> on debian systems (like ubuntu), the sites which are enabled in apache are symlinked in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[04:12] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett:  :) now to find out what is causing the system to scream and holler so .. I be look'n .
[04:13] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: a2ensite output is "Your choices are: default default-ssl which do you want to enable"
[04:13] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: a2ensite default
[04:13] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: you may have to do that as sudo
[04:14] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: default already enabled
[04:14] <zerowaitstate> when connecting via your local network, you're using http:// right? and it's working?
[04:15] <ericb__> yeah
[04:15] <tpayne> Hello. I have EC2 ubuntu machines (that write to a single db) all giving me different times when I type date (off by 27 seconds or so) and it's screwing up my ordering of writes because I get system time from Java code and persist it with mongodb. Any who, how can I make sure things are sync'd?
[04:15] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: then the problem is in your router. your machine IS listening or port 80, or http:// would not work
[04:16] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: unless you are typing some special port number in the url, as in http://blah.com:1567/
[04:17] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: ok gotcha, ill have to mess around with the router some more. well thank you for helping me :D
[04:17] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: sudo apt-get install ntp
[04:17] <LTS14N00b> HI All, I have for some reason lost the ability to [Alt]-[Tab] to switch tasks and also only have one desktop. It worked before I shutdown yesterday and now I don't have it (and I don't remember turning them off). I am running 14.04 and the Cairo dock (if that makes any difference)
[04:17] <tpayne> zerowaitstate: and that's it?
[04:17] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: if you're wanting times synced on the various boxes, they need to be running ntp
[04:18] <tpayne> why sin't this done out of the box?
[04:18] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: i don't know
[04:18] <tpayne> hehe, ok thanks
[04:18] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: the time differences will take a bit to settle; ntp slews the clock based on historical sampling, and virtualization monkeys with that a bit
[04:19] <tpayne> yeah i just installed it, and they're still off by about 1 minute
[04:19] <tpayne> so i guess i'll check back in the morning? I didn't reboot or anything I just literally did sudo apt-get install ntp
[04:19] <tpayne> on all 3 machines...
[04:20] <ericb__> take it easy zerowaitstate thanks again!
[04:21] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: stop the ntp service, then run "sudo ntpd -gq", then restart ntp service
[04:21] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: that should force a quick update
[04:22] <tpayne> thanks
[04:22] <tpayne> trying that now
[04:22] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: then, once ntp service is running, it will correct for future clock skew
[04:22] <Fudster> What is the package for .wav decoder on ubuntu server?
[04:24] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: you can also run ntpq and use the "peers" command to find out the status of the synchronization
[04:25] <tpayne> zerowaitstate: it's all sync'd up now!!
[04:25] <tpayne> beautiful, thanks so much
[04:26] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: no problem
[04:27] <Fudster> What is the package for .wav decoder on ubuntu server?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, thanks.  I deleted the log.  the guvcview camera was triggering something on each boot for quite some now.
[04:31] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Great. Panic not.  Just proceed in a calm and orderly fashion. Find out the why of the trigger , huh ?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, I THINK I might have experimented with screen recording on guvc ...
[04:32] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: lol, I recall the time I thought. I had to RE-install .
[04:33] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, *shudders* ...
[04:33] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Not all bad. I did learn . Good backups !
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, for certain!
[04:35] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, thank you so much!  I've found it near impossible to find local like minded linux users much less support here in Beijing.
[04:39] <muka> when I 'avconv -f pulse -i ....' I get Unknown input format: 'pulse'. Someone knows how to fix that?
[04:40] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Well... try the backwoods of Arkansas . Thank goodness for IRC and the forums ... Taught me all I have been able to learn to this time . ( and the want to know)
[04:40] <cfhowlett> muka, pulse is not a codec.
[04:40] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, arkansas?  nice.
[04:41] <Enkidu_ak> No LUGs in the Arkansas hills?
[04:42] <Bashing-om> Enkidu_ak: None that I am aware of ( or have hunted up) think about starting one up .
[04:43] <Enkidu_ak> You are welcome to join AkLUG. Most people can't seem to tell the difference between AK and AR anyway. :D
[04:43] <puff> I have a set of logitech wireless headphones, with the logitech USB dongle.  They mostly work fine, but every now and then I get no sound out of them, even if I have sound settings up and the headphones are selected and it's showing sound going out on them.
[04:43] <puff> Sometimes it comes back after a reboot.
[04:43] <puff> Anybody have any idea?
[04:44] <cfhowlett> muka, pulse IS a format though.  I don't use avconv enough to give detailed advice.  #opensourcemusicians or avconv irc would know more
[04:44] <Bashing-om> Enkidu_ak: Well. It is a thought, but that commute would be daunting .
[04:44] <muka> cfhowlett, thank you
[04:45] <Enkidu_ak> Bashing-om: We used to meet, years ago. Most of the members went off to other places, though. Now it's just a mailing list, but a lively one.
[04:45] <Enkidu_ak> I think we have more members out of state than we do in state.
[04:47] <Bashing-om> Enkidu_ak: Welcome to the WWW :) .. It has indeed changed our lives .
[05:22] <HashNuke> hi all
[05:23] <doitwithus> hello all
[05:24] <doitwithus> hey guys, we are trying to create DIY network for people to help each other locally for free, we have website up. But need feedback, does anyone want to help?
[05:29] <doitwithus> lol is anyone online, or just everyone watching netflix and forget irc on
[05:30] <NegativeFlare> doitwithus: This is a support channel, not a random chat channel.
[05:32] <Enkidu_ak> doitwithus: Though we have those as well. There is random chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it's pretty quiet at the moment.
[05:33] <Appl3Kork> anyone good with nfs?
[05:33] <Enkidu_ak> o/ Appl3Kork
[05:33] <Appl3Kork> oh hey
[05:34] <Enkidu_ak> Appl3Kork: Still having issues with xbmc?
[05:34] <Appl3Kork> so ya, i get that the setup for nfs is suppose to be like /mnt 192.168.1.176(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[05:34] <Appl3Kork> but for the IP, can i make it an IP that any ip on my network can access
[05:34] <Appl3Kork> so not just the ip of the xbmc?
[05:35] <Appl3Kork> cause the 192.168.1.176 is the ip of the raspberry pi
[05:36] <Enkidu_ak> Appl3Kork: You can make it available to your entire network. Replace the ip with *
[05:36] <Appl3Kork> ok i'll try that Enkidu_ak
[05:36] <iBrokeEverything> hi hello
[05:36] <Appl3Kork> u are a huge help when my other buddy isn't around :(
[05:37] <Enkidu_ak> Appl3Kork: Sometimes I even get it right :D
[05:37] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: Hi
[05:38] <Appl3Kork> no joke though Enkidu_ak u just fixed it :D
[05:38] <iBrokeEverything> its posible to run borderlands1 goty on ubuntu with that winetricks etc,,, ? i have on win7 version steam ,,all my dlcs
[05:39] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: You should check out the winehq website. They have a database of apps with known states. If Borderlands can be run, it's probably in there.
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !steam | iBrokeEverything, see the steam site
[05:39] <Enkidu_ak> Appl3Kork: Happy to help
[05:40] <iBrokeEverything> yea yea guys steam actualy runs on my ubu but no borderlands game run linuxes
[05:40] <iBrokeEverything> so there is that winetricks can i do it with dat?
[05:40] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: You can always install win32 steam
[05:41] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: Refer to that appdb that I was telling you about. If it can be done the instructions are probably there.
[05:41] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak like with wine?
[05:41] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: Yes
[05:42] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak and u are a gamer ? :D whats your experiences with ubu?
[05:42] <iBrokeEverything> am new in this
[05:43] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: I'm not a gamer :(
[05:43] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak hows that?
[05:44] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: I don't generally play computer games. I don't have any particular problem with them, just that my interests lie elsewhere.
[05:45] <iBrokeEverything> an this is an error when i start steam ,, but stem works                         OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering, which may cause performance problems.
[05:45] <iBrokeEverything> For more information visit https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9938-EYZB-7457
[05:45] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: And what did the article say?
[05:47] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: According to the article, Steam isn't able to use OpenGL. What video card are you using?
[05:47] <iBrokeEverything> reinstaling driver will help bla bla bla
[05:48] <iBrokeEverything> ubu says this Gallium 0.4 on AMD ARUBA
[05:49] <iBrokeEverything> but its amd radeon hd 7420
[05:49] <doitwithus> does anyone know how to make screen keep on raspberry pi? I try to play with settings it always goes off
[05:49] <iBrokeEverything> its laptop
[05:50] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: It seems that you should follow the articles advice and re-install those drivers.
[05:50] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: I'm guessing that direct rendering is broken everywhere, not just for steam
[05:51] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak but am pretty lame in linux ,,my knowledge end by change wallpaper :D
[05:52] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: We all started somewhere.
[05:54] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak its not like windows click on driver uninstall and re install :D
[05:55] <iBrokeEverything> should be linux for not talented peoples
[05:58] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: I don't use any ATI cards, so I am not as familiar with the driver setup as others might be. I did find an article detailing performance issues with that card and Utopic. https://mwop.net/blog/2014-11-03-utopic-and-amd.html
[05:58] <l9> any news on wayland and gnome ?
[06:00] <alberto> HOLA
[06:00] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak i go look on it
[06:01] <Guest5028> HOLA!
[06:05] <iBrokeEverything> enkisu_ak so done go reboot
[06:08] <ANJ7> where will the Arduino files get installed if I install it using apt-get?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: try the whereis command from terminal
[06:09] <iBrokeEverything> Enkidu_ak i dont see any changes
[06:09] <ANJ7> k
[06:30] <sys-lnx> .
[06:30] <sys-lnx> anyone?
[06:31] <sys-lnx> bye eveyone
[06:38] <sdfa> PPTP crashed with SIGSEGV but i still can connect using pptp
[06:38] <sdfa> what the crashed affected
[06:41] <sdfa> helloooo ?
[06:41] <sdfa> any of you experience PPTP crashed with SIGSEGV error ?
[06:41] <l9> helloooo
[06:44] <pie990beer> I think that am I drunk can't walk straight
[07:03] <scottrb3> I'm having some strange ubuntu behavior and I'm stumped. It's almost like a keyboard button is stuck. My mouse wheel is switching applications, and click+hold in chrome is scrolling down the page instead of highlighting text. any ideas?
[07:16] <tnkhanh> hi
[07:22]  * bip Buongiorno
[07:35] <Azin> When will python3 be updated on apt-get? I'm a little surprised that the latest version available is still 3.4.0 given how it contains the pyvenv bug.
[07:40] <vlt> Azin: Usually the version won’t change in a certain Ubuntu release.
[07:42] <vlt> Azin: Security fixes will be applied to the version shipped with the release. You can check the changelog for a package with `aptitude changelog <pgk>`, for example.
[07:44] <mateusz_> hello, can somebody help me with configuration gps on bluetooth?
[08:01] <Azin> vlt: Thank you
[08:10]  * tnkhanh says hi
[08:21] <mark_chang_1492> is ubuntu 15.04 good enough to swith from 14.04?
[08:21] <nils_> mark_chang_1492: lots of infrastructure work, from an end-user perspective not very exciting.
[08:22] <nils_> I'm wondering when a 3.16 kernel with at least the ckt5 patch set will be released, we're running into a few xen issues with 3.16-ckt4
[08:23] <mark_chang_1492> I see, maybe I will wait for a while for some exciting feature. thanks
[08:25] <nils_> mark_chang_1492: you can always try the live usb thingy though
[08:27] <mark_chang_1492> nils:good idea. Thanks for all you guys to develop such a good platform.
[08:44] <fattaneh> hi all, how to set a static same ip address for my vm in virtualbox?
[08:48] <geirha> that depends on how you configured the virtual network interface in virtualbox
[08:48] <geirha> And it's probably better to ask a virtualbox channel
[08:48] <fattaneh> geirha: thanks :) , i will ask there
[08:49] <geirha> which is #vbox
[08:52] <revisor> Hi, why does my Ubuntu VM installation add ".dev" to a ping request to non-existing domain? The same goes on with eg. gethostbyname('foo') in PHP. Where should I start looking? The VM is configured with a hostname "example.dev". Is it connected to this?
[08:54] <PartNAS> weres the mint channel?
[08:55] <revisor> Example: Calling "ping foo" starts pinging "foo.dev". Why?
[09:00] <revisor> Found the solution. I should call "ping foo." with a dot at the end, to signalize that no further lookup or completion should be performed
[09:02] <geirha> PartNAS: /msg alis list mint
[09:06] <neo1691_> Hi guys, I want to understand exactly what happens when I use the network manager from the ubuntu panel to change the network profile? I have created some profiles for different network with different IPs.  Can I somehow trigger them from the command line or from python?
[09:07] <neo1691_> Basically I want to write a script to enable and disable proxy variables in /etc/environment and /etc/apt/apt.conf and change IP addresses/DHCP based on the network I am on.
[09:10] <neo1691_> If I change the profile from the network manager applet on the status bar, I see no change in /etc/network/interfaces. I want to know which files exactly do they write? So that I can manually write them using  python
[09:11] <h0ddH3d> neo1691_: check nmcli
[09:12] <carl__> that's because network manager is in unmanaged mode by default, meaning that it handles interfaces with its own files instead of /etc/network/interfaces
[09:13] <neo1691_> h0ddH3d: Thanks!! carl__ just a question. Will nmcli or any other tool like wicd use the profiles from networkmanger or will I need to create new profiles for nmcli/wicd ?
[09:13] <bekks> neo1691_: nmcli is the command line utilty of NetworkManager.
[09:13] <bekks> neo1691_: So it uses the NetworkManager profiles.
[09:14] <carl__> yep, nmcli should use the same files as network manager
[09:14] <carl__> wicd probably won't, though
[09:15] <neo1691_> bekks: carl__ Thanks a lot.
[09:15] <carl__> i think you can set network manager mode by editing /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, if you want it to use /etc/network/interfaces, but i can't be sure
[09:15] <Pantsu> silly ubuntu that doesn't have nmtui yet
[09:15] <Pantsu> :/
[09:16] <geirha> oh curses
[09:16] <bekks> Pantsu: What do you need nmtui for, when there is nmcli?
[09:16] <Pantsu> bekks: nmtui is superiour in every way
[09:17] <Pantsu> it is much more user friendly and powerfull
[09:17] <bekks> Pantsu: curses in inferior by every means.
[09:17] <bekks> *is
[09:17] <Pantsu> nmcli could really need some work
[09:18] <marvin> hi
[09:19] <bekks> Pantsu: So start it, it's opensource and participation is highly welcome.
[09:19] <neo1691_> nmcli doesn't seem to be a part of ubuntu 12.04 official repositories?
[09:20] <Pantsu> neo1691_: it is part of networkmanager itself
[09:20] <h0ddH3d> Pantsu: If you decide to do some work over it i'am her.
[09:21] <h0ddH3d> here*
[09:21] <Pantsu> you don't want my patches
[09:21] <Pantsu> unless you want to torture someone
[09:21] <bekks> neo1691_: the package "network-manager" contains it.
[09:22] <neo1691_> Pantsu: Ah my bad. It's already there. I ran apt-cache show nmcli and apt-cache search nmcli which returned nothing. This tool should solve my issue
[09:22] <neo1691_> thanks bekks :)
[09:23] <Pantsu> my code tend to look like https://github.com/MrElendig/kittypack and https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5d5f9f383c0c03c883fa   :p
[09:23] <Pantsu> (you might want to keep some alcohol at hand to recover from the horror if you read the code)
[09:24] <bekks> That looks like Python and Haskell.
[09:24]  * bekks runs
[10:01] <ayct2> Hi all
[10:14] <neil_> I am trying to write a C using libfcgi but I can't find any example on how to process form data without hand coding the GET/POST arg. handling.
[10:17] <inexpertis> hello everyone, can someone tell me what holding Alt then pressing numbers in bash terminal do? ... what uses does this have?
[10:25] <Pantsu> neil_: use a framework
[10:25] <Pantsu> neil_: fun fact: php is a C http templating/routing framework
[10:26] <Pantsu> neil_: anyway, proxygen, haywire, raphters
[10:26] <Pantsu> and about a million others
[10:28] <wanyan> whos
[10:30] <monkeynutts> hey guys, im having an gpg issue. help pls ! when i run
[10:30] <monkeynutts> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[10:31] <monkeynutts> i always get this
[10:31] <monkeynutts> gpg: Invalid option "--primary-keyring"
[10:31] <wanyan> www.ircfans.org
[10:31] <monkeynutts> ive googled but have not been able to find an answer. i cannot add public keys to the repositories
[10:31] <svetlana> i wanted to ask what init systems are supported other than systemd and the /etc/rc?.d/ stuff
[10:32] <svetlana> since i don't grok the latter, and the former is exorbitantly broken, and i would prefer something i find intuitive at least
[10:32] <monkeynutts> can anyone point me in right directoion
[10:32] <carl__> hello ! does anyone know if switching a vpn on in the network settings is supposed to do something ? because that doesn't change anything to my routes..
[10:32] <svetlana> monkeynutts: replace `cannot add' with a description of what happens when you try to add, and try again
[10:33] <monkeynutts> i posted the error already
[10:33] <monkeynutts> gpg: Invalid option "--primary-keyring"
[10:33] <k1l> svetlana: you mean upstart?
[10:34] <monkeynutts> running sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32 generates gpg: Invalid option "--primary-keyring"
[10:34] <monkeynutts> im on 14.04 lts
[10:35] <ayct2> Hm
[10:36] <ayct2> cBeTA privet. Who uses elinks?
[10:36] <enkxa> hi!
[10:36] <monkeynutts> hi
[10:37] <enkxa> my problem: how on earth would i get encrypted swap permanently working?
[10:37] <ayct2> Hi
[10:38] <enkxa> it won't work if i do partiotioning by myself during installation process
[10:38] <enkxa> but in the other hand it will work if i choose full device encryption
[10:40] <ayct2> Try do it after install ▶
[10:40] <ayct2> And why u wanna encrypt swap?
[10:41] <enkxa> i've been trying
[10:41] <enkxa> it doesn't matter why i want it
[10:41] <enkxa> installation program tries to do it anyway
[10:41] <monkeynutts> why would running this command sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[10:41] <monkeynutts> generate this Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --homedir /tmp/tmp.EDCGXjphen --no-auto-check-trustdb --trust-model always --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[10:41] <monkeynutts> gpg: Invalid option "--primary-keyring"
[10:44] <enkxa> actually it worked once after i change UUID to real swap device file name in the crypttab
[10:44] <neil_> Pantsu, I am trying to make a small webapp ... I was hoping to use C and libfcgi but I have found no way of handling post/get data... I was after a full framework.
[10:44] <enkxa> but the next boot encrypted swap sucked again
[10:45] <Pantsu> neil_: I would consider python/haskell/similar
[10:45] <Pantsu> neil_: but as I said, there are a lot of C(++) web frameworks
[10:47] <neil_> Pantsu, I have been looking for 2 days trying to find a simple one that has examples on how to handle form data.
[10:50]  * Pantsu would seriously consider using some other language than C
[10:52] <tj83> hello everyone. It has been years since I ran ubuntu. Are there any suggested third party repos to grab to make life happy in ubuntu?
[10:52] <tj83> for example I used RPMfusion with fedora.
[10:53] <nanodrone> hey y'all i have a question
[10:53]  * mezoreda slaps giving 
[10:53] <Pantsu> tj83: ppa have some useful things
[10:53] <tj83> Pantsu, alright I will check them out. thank you.
[10:54] <Pantsu> (but it also have a lot of crap(
[10:55] <nanodrone> i tried ubuntu on my n-trig windows hybrid
[10:55] <nanodrone> it doesn't have any palm rejection
[10:55] <nanodrone> are there any better drivers available for n-trig on ubuntu?
[10:56] <nanodrone> and when is ubuntu gonna add support for connected standby
[10:57] <k1l_> nanodrone: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/NtrigFirmwareStatus for a start
[11:02] <nanodrone> k1l_, i dont get it
[11:02] <nanodrone> sorry
[11:03] <nanodrone> it's all about windows
[11:03] <nanodrone> who writes these drivers for linux
[11:04] <evagabond> evagabond
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> nanodrone  contact the company and ask them ro do so, would be the only way, i guess
[11:09] <jrk--> Hello. I have old laptop with WinXP. It has no USB-boot and defunct CD drive but it has boot from LAN. I wan to install Ubuntu on it. What can I do?
[11:10] <enkxa> if it's really old choose lubuntu
[11:10] <k1l_> jrk--: use pxe install procedure. and go for Lubuntu
[11:10] <hateball> jrk--: This is one option, provided you have another ubuntu machine on the LAN https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[11:11] <duckey> Is Microsoft buying Linux foundation?
[11:11] <k1l_> duckey: no. look at todays date :)
[11:12] <enkxa> never tried but should work that install server with booting from network
[11:12] <tj83> for a Nvidia geforce card is the proprietary driver recommended ? I am interested in some light gaming.
[11:12] <duckey> Really
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> duckey  yes, and Apple too
[11:13] <duckey> MonkeyDust, really?
[11:13] <jrk--> hateball:  I have no router so I have to connect two laptops directly. Do I have to setup DHCP server on my Ubuntu laptop?
[11:14] <enkxa> jrk-: seems that you have to
[11:15] <jrk--> enkxa: ok, thanks
[11:15] <enkxa> jrk-: no big deal
[11:16] <enkxa> jrk-: wireless router-modems are often dhcp servers by default if you have one
[11:17] <Pantsu> MonkeyDust: what does apple have to do with it?
[11:18] <Pantsu> tj83: use the package manager to install the driver, don't grab it right of nvidia.com
[11:19] <hateball> jrk--: another option would be to pull out the drive from the laptop and use a sata/ide -> usb-adapter and using another machine to do the install, then put the drive back in
[11:20] <jrk--> is there any other option to install Ubuntu on PC without USB-boot and CD-but? like chain-load GRUB from NTLDR and than load kernel and initrd from harddrive and then mout USB drive as root filesystem?
[11:24] <inexpertis>  what does ALT+<Number> in bash terminal do?  I see something like this (arg: 23)
[11:25] <Pantsu> inexpertis: man readline
[11:25] <Pantsu> inexpertis: also first hit on google: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/562115/press-alt-numeric-in-bash-and-you-get-arg-numeric-what-is-that
[11:27] <inexpertis> Pantsu, Thanks I tried to google it but could not formulate any question "(arg: number)" was not good because google ignores punctuation marks and linux Alt and numbers got me nothing :)
[11:28] <Desu> inexpertis: "bash alt-number"
[11:28] <Desu> was what I used
[11:30] <inexpertis> Desu, didn't think alt-number would work, in google does minus not state to  match pages not containing  that word ?
[11:31] <inexpertis> Desu,  anyway thanks
[11:31] <jrk--> inexpertis: if you put space before minus it will work as you said
[11:32] <citroniks>  i want to do "Web server load balancing  Raspberry Pi " how can i do please tell me
[11:32] <citroniks> in advance thanks
[11:36] <Desu> citroniks: you want to set up a rpi cluster?
[11:36] <Desu> (your question doesn't actually mean anything)
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> citroniks  sure you're in the right channel?
[11:37] <Enkidu_ak> Mmm... rpi lamp cluster... I think I have a weekend project.
[11:38] <citroniks> Desu, thanks but i dont know to setup please tell me any links
[11:39] <Desu> citroniks: that doesn't answer my quiestion, you havn't explained what you are actually trying to do
[11:39] <Desu> Enkidu_ak: better off not using apache on them
[11:40] <H__> Question: has X11 font rendering been changed in 14.04 very recently ? (I'm getting very ugly antialiasing since last apt-get dist-upgrade)
[11:41] <citroniks> Desu, i want to build "web server load balance" to balance the load of the server
[11:42] <duckey> So over the years, I have tried a lot of Linux distros. Have not found one that I really like. I want the most powerful most sourced most beautiful Linux distro. And on my search, I have found nothing. Can someone please guide me on my never quenched desire to find the perfect distro?
[11:42] <Desu> rpis are not the tool you want to use as a load balancer
[11:42] <jrk--> hateball, enkxa, I have no "/media/cdrom/install/netboot/" directory. I have only "mt86plus", "README.sbm" and "sbm.bin" files inside "/media/cdrom/install/" directory. I use Xubuntu 14.10.
[11:42] <Desu> asuming your servers are not horribly slow, the rpi will probably be limiting your server >_>
[11:43] <k1l_> duckey: since you ask in #ubuntu: use ubuntu
[11:43] <bazhang> duckey, try ##linux , this is ubuntu support only
[11:43] <duckey> Oh, crap
[11:43] <duckey> They de voiced me in ##linux
[11:43] <duckey> :(
[11:44] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic then duckey
[11:44] <k1l_> duckey: no need to spoil this channel then. thanks
[11:44] <duckey> Thatl doo :)
[11:46] <Enkidu_ak> duckey: To be fair, you were raving.
[11:47] <duckey> Yes I was
[11:47] <citroniks> Desu, i read this one    http://www.kmggroup.ch/?p=275
[11:48] <duckey> What is the kali linux channel?
[11:48] <Desu> citroniks: doesn't say anything about the performance....
[11:48] <bazhang> !kali | duckey
[11:48] <Desu> duckey: their homepage says what it is
[11:48] <Desu> duckey: also /q alis help
[11:48] <duckey> Oh
[11:48] <Desu> /q alis list *kali*
[11:54] <guo> nobody
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> duckey  there are at least 5 people in #kali
[11:54] <duckey> ikr
[11:54] <guo> hi
[11:54] <duckey> hi
[12:00] <vovkav> hi! Logcheck + dos_evasive question... no matter what i put in /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/xxx logcheck keeps sending me emails (Security Alerts section). other lines in /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/xxx work as expected. What did I miss?
[12:08] <Guest9892> LxLe led me here
[12:08] <Cryp71c> Working with a debian VM, keep getting a GPG key error for ppa.launchpad.net and I'm not sure if its something on my end that I need to fix or if the base issue is on the apt repository's side. I can run apt-key adv to manually add in the missing key....but I'm not sure why its not getting that key automatically
[12:08] <Cryp71c> sorry, ubuntu VM*
[12:10] <kb52> Just installed LXLE which seems like a cool Ubuntu linux. Here is its only problem. During install etc, my speakers make a thunking noise mostly left channel, when totally silent only.
[12:11] <kb52> It is the software and not the hardware.
[12:11] <bazhang> !lxle
[12:11] <bazhang> what is lxle kb52
[12:12] <k1l_> lxle is a ubuntu spinoff with lxde. better ask them for support or use original Lubuntu
[12:12] <bazhang> use alis to find their support chan kb52
[12:13] <bazhang>  /msg alis list lxle   kb52
[12:13] <kb52> Its Linux Ubuntu based. Uses the LXDE desktop. It appears to be as stable as all the rest, but it is not having a happy day with my sound card.
[12:13] <bazhang> it is not supported here kb52
[12:14] <PartNAS> kb52: tell them you are using lubuntu
[12:14] <Ben64> no
[12:14] <bazhang> PartNAS, thats not helpful
[12:14] <Ben64> it isn't lubuntu, lying will not get you far
[12:15] <kb52> I may just go back to knoppix even though you cannot upgrade it. But it looks so much nicer etc. This is the first linux that has some kind of sound problem. No its a basic sound driver issue.
[12:15] <bazhang> kb52, please stop posting here for help, find the lxle channel for that
[12:15] <kb52> Fine.
[12:18] <inexpertis> since a week ago, in CLI (CTRL+ALT+1 mode) is not using the whole screen area, its just about 1/4 in size in the top-left, what can I do to make it full screen?
[12:21] <inexpertis> By the way I'm ussing lubuntu v14 (Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS)
[12:22] <enkxa> one question about the ubuntu phone: is ubuntu the only operation systemin in the phone or is it just running on the top of android?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:22] <bazhang> !touch | enkxa
[12:23] <enkxa> ok, i'll have my question that other channel
[12:31] <Laurenceb> hi
[12:31] <Laurenceb> i have a problem, i have lost my monitors
[12:31] <Laurenceb> my pc is running fine, i can ssh in
[12:32] <Laurenceb> but there is nothing on my monitors, no signal
[12:32] <Laurenceb> the problem occured when i tried to change user
[12:32] <Laurenceb> screens when blank, and nothing i can do gets them back
[12:32] <Laurenceb> can anyone advise?
[12:32] <Laurenceb> i am currently connected via ssh
[12:33] <hualet> Laurenceb: have you tried to reboot your machine?
[12:34] <Laurenceb> haulet: id rather not, there is unsaved work
[12:34] <Laurenceb> ok, i just had another look
[12:34] <Laurenceb> it seems there is a signal, as the monitors wont auto  sleep
[12:34] <Laurenceb> but they are just showing black atm
[12:35] <Laurenceb> so something is sending video
[12:35] <memoryleak> Laurenceb: I had this issue aswell. Couldn't get it solved unfortunatly
[12:35] <Laurenceb>  :-/
[12:35] <Laurenceb> restart x11 or something?
[12:35] <memoryleak> It seemed to me that something with the graphcis-driver is causing it
[12:35] <Laurenceb> yeah
[12:35] <k1l_> Laurenceb: see the logs like dmesg and Xorg.log what is going on
[12:35] <Laurenceb> its got to be possible to restart it
[12:35] <Laurenceb> ah good idea
[12:35] <k1l_> and please name the video card and what driver did you use and how did you install it
[12:36] <memoryleak> Couldn't you install/run VNC to save the work? :)
[12:37] <Laurenceb> memoryleak: yeah maybe
[12:37] <Laurenceb> im gunna try to get some support irl first :P
[12:38] <Laurenceb> nothing in dmesg
[12:38] <sundev70> :)
[12:38] <Laurenceb> where is Xorg.log?
[12:38] <k1l_> Laurenceb: /var/log/
[12:39] <Laurenceb> ok
[12:39] <Laurenceb> i see lots of xorg logs
[12:39] <Laurenceb> which one?
[12:39] <Desu> Laurenceb: depends on the display your session is on
[12:39] <Laurenceb> ok ill check the dates
[12:40] <Desu> the number is the display
[12:40] <Desu> (they are not rotated logs)
[12:40] <Desu> in most cases it will be Xorg.0.log
[12:41] <Laurenceb> found it
[12:41] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/10067168
[12:41] <Laurenceb> restart xorg?
[12:42] <Desu> man -P "less -p '-logfile'" explains the naming
[12:42] <Desu> er... missing Xorg there
[12:42] <k1l_> Laurenceb: well, was it suddenly "while you were working" or was it while booting? and what video card is it?
[12:42] <Laurenceb> k1l_: it was while i was changing to another user
[12:42] <Desu> Laurenceb: that doesn't look like a xorg log
[12:43] <Laurenceb> ihmm
[12:43] <Laurenceb> ill grab the whole file
[12:43] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/10067171
[12:44] <Cryp71c> apt-cache lists two sources (one from a ppa and the other is from ubuntu) for a dependency, how can I re-arrange the order of these two sources so one is used instead of the other?
[12:47] <Xavinyo> hi, could someone please direct me to the appropriate place with SSD/TRIM problem
[12:48] <Laurenceb> fixed it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:50] <k1l_> Xavinyo: if its ubuntu ask here
[12:51] <yorwos> hi all
[12:51] <Xavinyo> k1l_, I don't know if it is vendor or kernel related, anyway I ask it
[12:52] <Xavinyo> I have ssd in lvm that is trim capable, hdparm shows:
[12:52] <Xavinyo> 	   *	Data Set Management TRIM supported (limit 6 blocks)
[12:52] <Xavinyo> 	   *	Deterministic read ZEROs after TRIM
[12:52] <Xavinyo> lvm.conf has discards_pass enabled
[12:52] <yorwos> i'm running ubuntu studio 14.04 and i was thinking to try "kali linux" distro inside a virtual machine , do you have any specific free vm software to advice ?
[12:53] <Xavinyo>     issue_discards = 1
[12:53] <Xavinyo> however lsblk -D returns that my max discrads etc is 0
[12:53] <yorwos> *recommend
[12:53] <Xavinyo> sda                               0        0B       0B         0
[12:53] <Xavinyo> ├─sda1                            0        0B       0B         0
[12:53] <Xavinyo> └─sda2                            0        0B       0B         0
[12:53] <Xavinyo>   ├─vg_ssd-lv_root (dm-2)         0        0B       0B         0
[12:53] <Xavinyo>   └─vg_ssd-lv_swap (dm-3)         0        0B       0B         0
[12:53] <Xavinyo> sdb                               0        0B       0B         0
[12:53] <k1l_> !paste | Xavinyo please use that
[12:54] <einyx> yorwos, virtualbox will work just fine
[12:54] <yorwos> thanx einyx
[12:54] <k1l_> yorwos: virtualbox is the easiest for endusers to begin with
[12:54] <Xavinyo> so my question is what am ai doing wrong, did I miss anything
[12:57] <systemd0wn> Question, running 14.04 Desktop and IPv6 is murderously slow when surfing the internet. Disabling it in sysctl seems to only be temporary because it just turns back on. Any suggestions on troubleshooting this so I can keep IPv6? (assuming anyone is awake to answer)
[12:58] <einyx> systemd0wn, ipv6 being slowly is probably because of your isp, not ubuntu itself
[12:59] <k1l_> Xavinyo: ubuntu uses batched discard since 14.04 but i dont know how lvm comes into that setting
[13:00] <lyze> ohai
[13:01] <Xavinyo> k1l_ lvm needs to pass discard signals to the underlying physical drives.. since I have to ssds in a logical volume i need to set things in lvm.conf
[13:01] <f0086> hi
[13:02] <Xavinyo> k1l_, I made a pastebin for informative outputs:  http://codepad.org/ShGHNhcA
[13:02] <f0086> Is there a other mapping between unix gid/uid and the actual name than /etc/passwd?
[13:03] <f0086> On my system there is a user/group I can't find in /etc/passwd
[13:03] <bekks> f0086: no.
[13:03] <k1l_> Xavinyo: ok, but i dont know about lvm trim setup. sorry
[13:03] <bekks> f0086: Which user/group do you see there?
[13:03] <k1l_> Xavinyo: if no one in here knows maybe try to ask on askubuntu.com or the ubuntuforums
[13:04] <bekks> Xavinyo: are you running fstrim as root?
[13:04] <f0086> bekks: I use froxlor which will create this user/groups ... but there are not in /etc/passwd
[13:04] <gautam__> Why gedit/firefox is opening on server side, not on client side. When I have ssh into server from client side with -X option
[13:04] <f0086> bekks: I can't find the place where these names are defined
[13:05] <bekks> f0086: Whats "froxlor2?
[13:05] <bekks> f0086: froxlor even.
[13:05] <Xavinyo> bekks, yes
[13:05] <f0086> bekks: a web tool to manage hosting stuff
[13:05] <f0086> bekks: It does not matter
[13:05] <bekks> f0086: So thats a good question for their support then.
[13:05] <bekks> f0086: It does matter, of course.
[13:06] <f0086> bekks: It is a basic linux/unix question: Where can I find the mechanism which will translate the gid/uid into names? I thought /etc/passwd is the only place but there must be a other place
[13:07] <bekks> f0086: Ask the froxlor support where they are doing things like that.
[13:07] <bekks> f0086: It is a basix product support question.
[13:08] <cq-aux> hi
[13:08] <cq-aux> does anyone want to skype-chat?
[13:09] <f0086> Ok, I will ask a completely other question: If I want wot mount an external NFS share, How can I use the gid/uid names from an external source (the nfs server) and not do a copy/paste of the /etc/passwd file?
[13:09] <bekks> f0086: Withou specifying any uid/gid, the numerical values from the source (the nfs server) are in effect.
[13:10] <k1l_> cq-aux: this is technical support only. better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[13:10] <cq-aux> k
[13:11] <f0086> bekks: where can I specify the gid/uid mapping?
[13:12] <systemd0wn> einyx, I'd like to determine what about it is so slow. Any suggestions? I added Googles IPv6 DNS servers which didn't seem to change anything.
[13:12] <bekks> f0086: In the mount command.
[13:12] <bekks> f0086: you can specify which uid/gid the external uid/gid should be maped to.
[13:13] <einyx> systemd0wn, is hard to tell, maybe with a traceroute you can see if there is some hop from which the connection start to slow down
[13:14] <systemd0wn> I just tried ipv6-test.com/speedtest to compare and it says I'm getting nearly 26Mbps on both.
[13:15] <systemd0wn> einyx: I'll do some tinkering. In the meantime do you know how I can disable IPv6 in the network manager? I know I can specify to disable it at boot but I'd rather not.
[13:17] <einyx> systemd0wn, errr i think if you go into network settings -> wired -> options you can say "ignore"
[13:17] <einyx> or something like that :D
[13:22] <systemd0wn> einyx: I appreciate the help. But ignore doesn't seem to do it.
[13:34] <kokut> Hello, how do you check your brightness settings from the terminal?
[13:35] <einyx> systemd0wn, lol
[13:35] <pbx> kokut, xbacklight is what i use
[13:36] <einyx> systemd0wn, check under /proc
[13:37] <einyx> you should be able to echo under proc on a file called disable_ipv6
[13:37] <fuffy> Hello. Which linux can I use on a Pentium 3 with 120MB RAM? I just need a web browser in there.
[13:37] <pbx> kokut, it lets you control the level too. e.g.  http://dpaste.com/3XZJW56
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> fuffy  try lubuntu
[13:37] <fuffy> MonkeyDust: lubuntu needs to much ram
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> fuffy  it's the "lightest", maybe look for an ever lighter distro
[13:39] <k1l_> fuffy: you could try a minimal install and see whats working for you. but i think with a that old device you want some of the really small distros
[13:39] <fuffy> MonkeyDust: it may be the lightest ubuntu
[13:39] <kokut> pbx: nice, i dontk now why but when i turn on my laptop after unpluggin the external monitor it lowers my brightness and the GUI to change it from ubuntu is bugged, i set it to the max and it goes to 80% so i have to set it up myself
[13:41] <pbx> kokut, yeah, there are ways to manage brightness automatically depending on power state but i haven't found any simple enough for my liking. so i have simple shell aliases that use xbacklight
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> fuffy  or what k1l_ says, the minimal install and install just what you need
[13:43] <fuffy> MonkeyDust: do you know of any web browser who can display images but doesnt need X?
[13:44] <PierreBitant> Lynx ?
[13:45] <hkrrsx> fuffy: w3m text browser in xterm will show images
[13:45] <hkrrsx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bMUtCOGko
[13:46] <fuffy> hkrrsx: thanks
[13:47] <hkrrsx> fuffy: you're welcome
[13:47] <asd_> Can somebody help me out with this issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718355/
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> asd_  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[13:49] <emh_> I am experiencing some weird king of keyboard 'lag' (keystrokes or key releases won't always get registered) when using memory intensive Java applications, what direction should i look for a solution?
[13:49] <asd_> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> asd_  then first do   sudo apt-get update
[13:51] <asd_> MonkeyDust, Still same output, i tried installing with aptitude but nothing happened.
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> asd_  try changing the miroor in system settings > software & update > download from
[13:57] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: i'd guess that "you have held broken packages." might be contributing to asd's issue
[13:58] <rmelo> Hi guys, anyone with a Asus K550JK?
[14:02] <zykotick9> rmelo: perhaps, you should ask your real question instead...
[14:10] <rmelo> zykotick9: got it, I have a Asus K550J and the wireless keeps disconnecting
[14:10] <rmelo> it seems this wireless card really sucks
[14:11] <rmelo> anyone got arount this?
[14:11] <rmelo> the wireless card is a Realtek RTL8821AE
[14:12] <phre4k> when I uninstall light-locker, does the screen not get locked anymore?
[14:12] <phre4k> how can I prevent the screen from being locked automatically? The light-locker-settings app doesn't seem to channge anything.
[14:15] <ponyrider> rmelo: try rmmod rtl8821ae
[14:16] <ponyrider> rmelo: then modprobe rtl8821ae
[14:17] <ponyrider> rmelo: sprunge your logs: cat /var/log/syslog | grep -e wlan -e rtl | tail -n20
[14:29] <Tahvok> Hey guys, I'm searching all over Google and can't find the answer. PHP extensions (the .so file) reside in /usr/lib/php5/20121212 - what does the 20121212 stand for? What decides on its number?
[14:30] <zykotick9> Tahvok: just a guess, but could that be a date?
[14:31] <Tahvok> zykotick9: I think it's a date as well. But date of what?
[14:31] <zykotick9> ? i was just guessing...  i have no knowledge ;)
[14:31] <jamesleimer> instalation?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> version date?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> looks like 2012 dec 12th
[14:32] <Tahvok> It's a recently installed system (and updated). And apache build date is: Mar 10 2015 13:05:59
[14:33] <ObrienDave> ask the dev?
[14:34] <SAMMI> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1339598
[14:34] <SAMMI> check here see if it can help
[14:34] <ObrienDave> devs do weird things like naming modules after girlfriends/spouse, 1st child's birth date, etc.
[14:41] <rmelo> ponyrider: what should I be looking for? I see some warnings, shall I put them here?
[14:42] <SAMMI> yes
[14:44] <rmelo> after I connect to a network I have:
[14:45] <rmelo> Apr  1 07:41:42 P3D001 wpa_supplicant[1130]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33
[14:49] <rmelo> Every few seconds the syslog is bombarded by this modul's log messages
[14:50] <rmelo> Where can I find some kingd of more up to date version for this specific driver?
[14:50] <rmelo> since I am on 14.04 maybee there is a more stable version
[14:51] <bekks> rmelo: For a Realtek Wifi?
[14:51] <bekks> rmelo: Do you have the chance to get some more reliable wifi hardware?
[14:52] <genii> Gah, Realtek
[14:54] <rmelo> bekks: unfortnetly no...
[14:54] <bajul> Hi, I have issues installing Ubuntu 14.10 on a Lenovo w540. When trying to install the OS it gets stuck on different places (eg.:configuring network, just displaying the ubuntu logo at boot, when asking to install third party updates,...)
[14:55] <bekks> rmelo: No chance of getting some USB wifi?
[14:55] <rmelo> not an option for this laptop's purpose. Is the realtek really so bad in Linux?
[14:55] <bajul> Is anyone able to help me diagnose this issue?
[14:57] <bekks> rmelo: Yes.
[14:58] <bekks> rmelo: Calling it "crap" is not understated.
[15:00] <RudeViper> Under ubuntu 14.04.2 - is the init script functioning or has init been handed over to upstart?
[15:00] <freen0d3rr> any chinese I need a little help here
[15:00] <bekks> !cn | freen0d3rr
[15:01] <bekks> !upstart | RudeViper
[15:01] <RudeViper> that did not answer the quest
[15:01] <freen0d3rr> ubottu: are you so smart ? :)
[15:01] <RudeViper> question
[15:01] <freen0d3rr> ubottu: open source?
[15:02] <john_doe_jr> When I log in through SSH I get the following warning => WARNING: This is a private computer system and is for authorized use only"….how do I stop that?
[15:02] <genii> freen0d3rr: the Chinese support channel is at #ubuntu-cn   or if Taiwanese then #ubuntu-tw
[15:03] <freen0d3rr> genii: i just need some help from a chinese who has pen.baidu.com account.
[15:03] <freen0d3rr> :)
[15:03] <freen0d3rr> there is a file , I would ask him to download and email me since I cant access to it
[15:04] <mcphail> freen0d3rr: that is not an ubuntu support question and is offtopic on this channel
[15:05] <freen0d3rr> mcphail: I know but I could find no other place for help. any recommendation?
[15:05] <mcphail> freen0d3rr: no
[15:05] <BBLLCC> hi, are you having trouble withf irefox? I cannot start it anymore, i can only start it on safe mode
[15:07] <Agent86> hi ubuntu, I have a   .py file that I transfer via local network to another ubuntu computer. But the .py file is permission locked when it gets to the other computer. I can't run the .py script and cannot unlock the permissions
[15:07] <Agent86> The file starts out as chmod 777 so it's unlocked why would it lock on the other side ?
[15:07] <Agent86> and cannot be unlocked via terminal ?
[15:08] <somsip> Agent86: how do you transfer it?
[15:08] <Agent86> I copy and past to the shared folder on the other computer, I do it from the source computer, to the target
[15:09] <Agent86> in other words I'm at the source computer, and copy to the target
[15:09] <mcphail> Agent86: if you are sharing over samba, I don't think that respects the original file permissions
[15:09] <Agent86> should I be at the target computer and copy from source
[15:09] <bekks> Agent86: How exactly do you copy the file?
[15:10] <Agent86> well they are both ubuntu computers and  I don't believe I'm using samba just the browse network feature of ubuntu to the shared folder
[15:11] <Agent86> copy and paste and I have no noticed this before for some reason it seems to be only .py files I can copy a .mp3 just fine and change permissions on the file all I want
[15:11] <bekks> Copy and paste from where to where?
[15:12] <Agent86> ahhhh I think I figured out, I had geany open and was editing it, so when I copied the file it was already open
[15:12] <Agent86> yikes,
[15:14] <Agent86> oh well that wasn't it
[15:14] <Agent86> still locked
[15:14] <Agent86> i just use the built in ubuntu browse network, select my local file and copy to Music folder on the other local machine
[15:15] <Agent86> it's locked on the other end
[15:15] <bekks> Agent86: Define "locked".
[15:15] <bekks> Agent86: Pastebin ls -lha filename after you copied the file please.
[15:15] <Agent86> meaning right click and says permission could not be determined and has a little padlock icon on it. Also if I chmod 777 file it says something
[15:15] <Agent86> ok
[15:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[15:16] <Agent86> ls -lha from which machine does it matter
[15:16] <bekks> Agent86: From the machine where the "file is locked".
[15:16] <ri> ciao
[15:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> what is a good backup solutions that has a web frontend as opposed to a GUI?
[15:17] <bekks> MDTech-us_MAN: backuppc has a web frontend.
[15:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok. I will look at it
[15:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> looks interesting
[15:18] <pbx> MDTech-us_MAN, there are several online backup contenders. e.g. https://www.starryhope.com/online-backup-solutions-for-ubuntu-linux/
[15:19] <bekks> pbx: I guess he wants a local backup tool, not a cloud-based backup service.
[15:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> I dont like backing up to the cloud
[15:19] <bekks> (which I would never trust at all).
[15:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> same
[15:20] <pbx> MDTech-us_MAN, what on earth did you mean by "web frontend" then??
[15:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's what a spare HDD is for
[15:20] <bekks> pbx: Soe web page being opened in a browser?
[15:20] <bekks> pbx: Like: http://localhost/backuppc/
[15:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> I mean the frontend would run from the computer that is being backed up
[15:21] <MDTech-us_MAN> especially useful for ubuntu server ;)
[15:21] <bekks> MDTech-us_MAN: I am using a CLI based backup solution for my server.
[15:22] <MDTech-us_MAN> I know the command like is powerful and great and all, but a web just makes it that much easier
[15:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> I already spend most of my time on command lines
[15:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> lol
[15:23] <bekks> MDTech-us_MAN: So what do you need eye candy for? :)
[15:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> I don't have to write 100 characters to start/schedule a backup
[15:24] <bekks> MDTech-us_MAN: And backuppc isnt a point and click solution. You have to configure (on a command line) what you want to do there.
[15:24]  * mcphail types "rsnapshot daily" if he hasn't already set up a cron job to do the same
[15:25]  * bekks types "runbackups.sh" and presses enter.
[15:25]  * somsip gets a cup of coffee while the cronjob runs
[15:25] <neil_> hi, I have complied a program it uses a library (libonion.so.0) ... "gcc post.c  -o post -lonion" ... when using ldd it shows "libonion.so.0 => not found" ... how do I get gcc to set the full path to this library ?
[15:27] <genii> neil_: sudo ldconfig /path/to/libonion-things
[15:29] <neil_> genii, so what would that do?
[15:38] <irreverant> has anyone seen this?
[15:38] <irreverant> http://www.version2.dk/blog/sudo-apt-get-install-microsoftwindows81-og-der-virker-129703
[15:38] <irreverant> it's in Danish
[15:39] <cfhowlett> irreverant, as this is the english speaking channel and it's for ubuntu ... no we haven't read it.
[15:39] <irreverant> but; they are saying that you can apt-get install microsoftwindows8.1 and it will install windows as an application?
[15:39] <bekks> irreverant: Did you take a look at the current date?
[15:39] <cfhowlett> irreverant, ask someone who reads danish??
[15:39] <somsip> irreverant: type "date" in a terminal...
[15:39] <irreverant> cfhowlett, it's about Ubuntu and you can translate it to english using Chromium
[15:39] <cfhowlett> irreverant, what day is today?
[15:40] <irreverant> OH!
[15:40] <irreverant> hahahahhahaha!
[15:40] <cfhowlett> irreverant, let me fix that for you:  D'oh!
[15:40] <Audaces> hahah ;D
[15:41] <Audaces> Humor aside, is it possible to put ubuntu asleep, and then boot to windows, and then put windows to sleep, and but to the sleeping ubuntu
[15:45] <bibi-23> I have some text in a file, most of the content is ok, but I have weird characters like this "Ä…dzeÅ„ â€“", how can I know what encoding it should be?
[15:47] <bekks> bibi-23: Characters from another charset.
[15:49] <bibi-23> bekks: but how can I know which one, I'd like to convert it.
[15:51] <unicr0n> @bibi-23 this might help to ident: http://i-tools.org/charset/exec
[15:53] <argha> hello can anybody tell me how ti install skype in ubuntu 14.10
[15:53] <ObrienDave> !skype
[15:53] <pbx> argha, what have you tried and what specific problems have you had?
[15:54] <ConsoleFx> argha, http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/to-install-skype-4-0-0-8-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[15:54] <avansledright> http://www.unixmen.com/install-skype-ubuntu-14-1014-0412-04/
[15:56] <rivares1853> Hello!!! Can you help me? How preference samba? I can send message consisting only from certain words, example: Yes, Done, Hi, Up, Down, Center...  .Input command write: "smbclient -b 6 -U PC0 -M PC1".  From "Hello"? he write : "cli_message returned NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_DISCONNECTED"
[15:58] <bibi-23> unicr0n: the link doesn't work, what is it?
[15:59] <gndlp> hey so what does cntl alt L call in 14.04? I am trying to make it launch xscreensaver
[15:59] <unicr0n> bibi-23: second try: http://i-tools.org/charset/
[16:00] <unicr0n> bibi-23: it's charset/enc online converter
[16:03] <argha> pbs actually i am noob that;s why i don;t know how to install skype in ubuntu
[16:03] <argha> can you tell me  in details
[16:04] <argha> I know how to install skype from windows
[16:04] <argha> whaat i  have to write at terminal?
[16:04] <ObrienDave> !skype
[16:04] <argha> hello pbx
[16:04] <cfhowlett> argha, sudo apt-get skype
[16:04] <rivares1853> sudo apt-get install skype
[16:04] <cfhowlett> *sudo apt-get install skype*
[16:05] <h0ddH3d> rivares1853: http://askubuntu.com/questions/488053/how-to-install-skype-4-3
[16:05] <argha> would i get the graohical interfaace by typin this command in the termina?
[16:05] <h0ddH3d> sorry not rivares1853 :p
[16:05] <rivares1853> =)))
[16:05] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, ,make sure argha enabled the partner repo
[16:05] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, true.
[16:05] <argha> fro where?
[16:05] <OerHeks> !partner
[16:05] <cfhowlett> argha, choose a lane; you  want the command line or graphical method.
[16:06] <argha> cmnd line
[16:07] <argha> cfh**
[16:07] <cfhowlett> argha, first you must enable partner repos; sudo <your editor here> /etc/apt/sources.list           remove the ## from the partners entry
[16:07] <cfhowlett> argha, save that, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[16:08] <argha> ok i am trying
[16:09] <rivares1853> Hello!!! Can you help me? How preference samba? I can send message consisting only from certain words, example: Yes, Done, Hi, Up, Down, Center...  .Input command write: "smbclient -b 6 -U PC0 -M PC1".  From "Hello"? he write : "cli_message returned NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_DISCONNECTED
[16:09] <gndlp> anyone know what file cntrl alt L calls in 14.04? trying to rig up xscreensaver
[16:10] <argha> first i type sudo vim /etc/apt/source.list
[16:10] <argha> after typing this i get the editor from the terminal
[16:10] <argha> after that what i have to do chf
[16:10] <cfhowlett> argha, yes
[16:11] <cfhowlett> argha, ctrl-f (search for) partner.  uncomment the partner entries by removing ##
[16:12] <researcher1> AFter fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 how can i creat root user and password
[16:12] <k1l_> researcher1: you dont do that on ubuntu
[16:12] <OerHeks> argha, just do it from softwarecenter, or take a read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_Canonical_Partner_Repositories
[16:13] <k1l_> researcher1: you preface "sudo" to the commands that need rooti rights. but dont just run every command with sudo.
[16:13] <cfhowlett> !root | researcher1
[16:13] <RudeViper> I am seeing this in my htop screen on my ubuntu 14.04 server... can someone tell me what this is?  24942 root 20 0 107M 6556 5492 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.09 sshd: root@notty - is this someone logged into my system's ssh?
[16:13] <researcher1> cfhowlett: thanks
[16:14] <cfhowlett> researcher1, happy2help!
[16:14] <sheap> In my preseed the LVM stuff gets created automatically, but the bootable flag does not get set to /dev/md126p1 (which is mounted to /boot, and where GRUB is installed). Is there a way I can have the LVM stuff made automatically but just have the bootable flag added to a specific partition?
[16:14] <argha> could i install it from synaptic package manager?
[16:14] <Blueking> hello, just wonder if there are ways to detect if net is down  and auto perform 'service networking restart' ?
[16:15] <ObrienDave> argha, yes
[16:15] <cfhowlett> argha, yes, but you must enable partner repo first
[16:15] <ObrienDave> and update repos
[16:17] <muchacha> hi guys, I would like to remap the key ; with :. Is this possible?
[16:18] <h0ddH3d> muchacha: Do you want it to use VIM?
[16:18] <muchacha> h0ddH3d: yes, it' intended for vim
[16:19] <Blueking> what's default telnet port ?
[16:19] <ioria> 22
[16:19] <gndlp> @blueking 21
[16:19] <gndlp> Blueking: 21
[16:19] <gndlp> 22 is ssh
[16:19] <ioria> ftp is 21
[16:19] <gndlp> 21 is telnet
[16:19] <gndlp> opps
[16:19] <gndlp> 23
[16:19] <gndlp> lol
[16:20] <gndlp> 22 +/- 1
[16:20] <ioria> let me check
[16:20] <h0ddH3d> muchacha: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Map_semicolon_to_colon
[16:20] <gndlp> Common Ports
[16:20] <gndlp> 20 FTP data (File Transfer Protocol)
[16:20] <gndlp> 21 FTP (File Transfer Protocol)
[16:20] <gndlp> 22 SSH (Secure Shell)
[16:20] <gndlp> 23 Telnet
[16:21] <ioria> yep
[16:21] <Meway-Desktop> whats ubuntus partioning software called? (I'm using ubuntu server ediiton on a vm thats running on windows 7) I've done what I needed to do on windows side of things but now I need to increase the partion size and don't know how I would go about doing that via terminal.
[16:22] <Audaces> its gparted
[16:22] <ParSalian> apt-get gparted
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Meway-Desktop, gparted
[16:22] <teaearlgraycold> For a VM with 3.5GB of RAM, what's a good amount of swap?
[16:22] <Meway-Desktop> ty
[16:22] <Audaces> 10 ish
[16:22] <Audaces> all you need is 8 though
[16:23] <Meway-Desktop> Teaearlgraycold 6-10
[16:23] <Audaces> general rule is double plus a bit spare
[16:23] <teaearlgraycold> 6-8GB of Swap?
[16:23] <ParSalian> is there a general good practice on sizing swap?
[16:23] <cfhowlett> teaearlgraycold, the rule used to be 1.5 - 2 times ram so ...
[16:23] <k1l_> Audaces: nope
[16:23] <Blueking> telnet not enabled on ubuntu by default ?
[16:23] <k1l_> teaearlgraycold: if you want to suspend to ram you need at least the same amount as ram. besides form that you can set it to what you like
[16:23] <teaearlgraycold> It's got a 30GB disk though :/
[16:23] <ioria> Blueking,  no and  it  shouldn't
[16:23] <Audaces> There seems to be alot of varying opinions
[16:24] <Blueking> I want telnet ,)
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !telnet | BlueByte-
[16:24] <SchrodingersScat> !info telnet | Blueking
[16:24] <Audaces> !mtp
[16:24] <cfhowlett> bluebyte sorry blueking see above
[16:24] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: is standard, you should have it.
[16:25] <Blueking> refused :P
[16:25] <Meway-Desktop> teaearlgraycold: sorry for the bad news xD
[16:25] <teaearlgraycold> He, yeah
[16:25] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: if you mean something that responds to telnet, then what are you talking about?
[16:25] <teaearlgraycold> It's only got 1GB right now cause I just guessed
[16:25] <Meway-Desktop> will gparted work proper in a terminal? (its not installed by default)
[16:26] <gndlp> Blueking: what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:26] <ioria> Blueking,  well .. it's usefull if youare working testing pop3 or  smtp
[16:26] <Audaces> Meway-Desktop just use sudo apt-get install gparted
[16:26] <Meway-Desktop> I'm using ubuntu server
[16:26] <cfhowlett> Meway-Desktop, gparted is a gui app, so not terminal based ....
[16:26] <Blueking> have to make a scipt to do 'service networking restart'
[16:27] <cfhowlett> Meway-Desktop, parted is the cli app
[16:27] <ioria> Blueking,  ^ç^
[16:27] <Meway-Desktop> cfhowlett: so install parted or gparted? or does it come with gparted?
[16:27] <Meway-Desktop> mv
[16:27] <Meway-Desktop> nvm
[16:27] <Meway-Desktop> cfhowlett: any tips on using parted?
[16:28] <k1l_> Meway-Desktop: gparted is the GUI version. so i think you dont want that on a server, right?
[16:28] <Meway-Desktop> right ^
[16:28] <cfhowlett> Meway-Desktop, take your time, think twice before you press <enter> then think again.
[16:28] <Meway-Desktop> ty
[16:28] <Audaces> You can do everything you want, but your changes are reversable until you press the grren tick
[16:29] <cfhowlett> Audaces, no green tick in parted ... :)
[16:29] <Audaces> 8u
[16:29] <Audaces> AQW+36
[16:29] <ioria> Blueking,  also if  you wanna dare to use  it ,  it should't be initialized at start
[16:29] <Meway-Desktop> I just want to change a 4gb HDD into 10gb lol
[16:29] <Audaces>   
[16:30] <Audaces> oh whoops my mistake
[16:30] <Blueking> ioria I'd like to make a autodetect tool to notify if net has dropped and autoperform 'service networking restart' to get it online
[16:31] <OEP> Has anyone else noticed that if they have the 'clang' and 'gccgo' packages installed on their system that clang can no longer find its standard C++ headers?
[16:31] <ioria> Blueking,  ok
[16:31] <Audaces> j  bh
[16:32] <Meway-Desktop> Does anyone have experiance with parted? I'm afraid to touch things xD
[16:32] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: what role are you using telnet for though?  I don't understand.
[16:32] <Meway-Desktop> none of the data is sensative though
[16:33] <Meway-Desktop> so I won't lose anything
[16:33] <Blueking> if I can't have it done local on linux box I can do it from  another pc with ytin running
[16:34] <Blueking> SchrodingersScat I am running ytin 24/7  that logs on my mud char on vikingmud  gaining age :P
[16:35] <gaconsalt> https://vk.com/video?z=video250143506_171162483%2Falbum250143506    ---   как это обьяснить))?
[16:37] <ibuidan> %get%system%config%target%server%domain%policy%autoconfig%shell%autorun%initrd.img%
[16:38] <Blueking> hmm telnet command are active on linux but can't telnet to itself ? :P
[16:39] <ioria> Blueking,  you need telnetd  the  server side
[16:39] <teward> ^
[16:39] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: you would need a server listening
[16:39] <Blueking> ok
[16:39] <ibuidan> Microsoft has been using a heavily modified Linux kernel for years!
[16:39] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: normally to control ubuntu remotely you would use openssh
[16:39] <teward> !offtopic | ibuidan
[16:40] <ibuidan> it was just a April 1st prank
[16:40] <teward> ibuidan: still offtopic
[16:40] <philip__> when u archive on thunderbird what directory is it located
[16:41] <Blueking> ok fixed :)
[16:42] <philip__> when u archive on thunderbird what file directory is it located
[16:43] <Blueking> SchrodingersScat I know  but just a temporarely solution to I get new access gateway from ISP at 8 april
[16:44] <ironfoot495> Hello people i'm trying to install vuze but I keep getting the wrong version. I put in vuze 5.1 but when I rebooted I lost it and not able to get it back right I could surely use some help.
[16:45] <k1l_> philip__: .thunderbird in your users home
[16:47] <ioria> Blueking,  Lykke til
[16:47] <Blueking> får det fiksa
[16:47] <funkenstrahlen> hey, can someone please mention me? just to test sth.
[16:48] <Blueking> mekke et script i ytin :P
[16:48] <Blueking> ioria
[16:48] <ioria> Blueking,  good
[16:48] <peppe_> Hi folks, we have 14.04 server and configured autoconf and accept_ra to 1 and forwarding to 0 though when host receives RA from router, it does not do anything (still stuck with fe80). any idea?
[16:49] <agrippaz> Hi all - need some help setting up my laptop with High-DPI. running into a lot of user interface size problems
[16:50] <agrippaz> i cranked up the global text size setting in the control panel
[16:50] <mchelen1> agrippaz, same problem here, are you using unity?
[16:50] <agrippaz> mchelen1: i believe so? 14.04 clean install
[16:51] <agrippaz> i have problems with menu bars too small, font size too big for places like the control panel
[16:51] <mchelen1> agrippaz, the system wide scaling is not just for fonts/text
[16:51] <agrippaz> my cursor size changes drastically depending on which app i'm in
[16:51] <agrippaz> well, the size setting is in the Fonts panel
[16:51] <cfhowlett> agrippaz, most apps are not optimized for high dpi.
[16:51] <peppe_> any can help us with SLAAC ?
[16:53] <mchelen1> agrippaz, hmm i used the one in Settings -> Display
[16:53] <agrippaz> mchelen1: is this how you live too? http://i.imgur.com/8LQPbV4.png
[16:53] <Meway-Desktop> on parted what are "primary, extended, logical" ?
[16:53] <mchelen1> agrippaz, what fonts panel?
[16:54] <agrippaz> ah i'm sorry mchelen1, i was using Unity Tweak Tool, where the Fonts panel is
[16:54] <Meway-Desktop> I assume primary is exactly what it means and logical is the system usage
[16:54] <mchelen1> agrippaz, nope, don't use unity tweak
[16:54] <mchelen1> agrippaz, at least not to start with
[16:54] <agrippaz> ah dang
[16:54] <Meway-Desktop> but is extended what I can add to primary?
[16:54] <Meway-Desktop> :|
[16:55] <mchelen1> agrippaz, go to Displays and look for "Scale for menu and title bars"
[16:55] <agrippaz> mchelen1: on your high-dpi system, are the menus and tabs in Chromium/Chrome very small? What machine ar eyou using?
[16:56] <agrippaz> mchelen1: got it. set to 1.38 which seems to be helping a bit
[16:56] <tucnak> hey there! I am trying to build a linux lib with cmake here, but unfortunely #include <gtk/gtk.h>: No such file or directory.
[16:56] <mchelen1> agrippaz, chromium is fine, but chrome is bad
[16:56] <tucnak> oh yeah, gtk dev package is installed
[16:56] <mchelen1> agrippaz, i have a lenovo x1 carbon, 2560x1440
[16:56] <agrippaz> mchelen1: that was my initial experience, although somehow Chromium has grown small and won't enlargen back
[16:56] <agrippaz> mchelen1: cool. on a Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus here
[16:56] <mchelen1> agrippaz, i have my scale set to 3 :D
[16:57] <mchelen1> and didn't touch fonts
[16:57] <mchelen1> agrippaz, i was able to get most things to display ok in the main OS, but some apps are still not great
[16:57] <agrippaz> wow! if I choose 3.0 scaling, that's enormous
[16:57] <agrippaz> :)
[16:57] <Meway-Desktop> How do I get parted to allow me to utilize the full ammount of space available for my primary drive? http://i.imgur.com/w3aPCNk.png
[16:58] <agrippaz> mchelen1: darn. Windows 8.1 supports high-dpi like crap also. i was hoping to get to something better with Ubuntu
[16:59] <agrippaz> Meway-Desktop: migh have to look up the parted documentation for that
[16:59] <Meway-Desktop> I saw this http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/09/parted-command-examples/
[16:59] <ioria> tucnak you nedd dev- package
[16:59] <mchelen1> agrippaz, if you increase scaling you might need to set fonts back to default
[16:59] <Meway-Desktop> but I'm not so sure I understand it
[16:59] <tucnak> ioria: I do have it here
[17:00] <tucnak> ioria: and I can't run pkg-config, cos of cmake
[17:00] <cuddylier> Anyone know an IRC channel where making VPS boxes are discussed and that general topic?
[17:00] <agrippaz> mchelen1: okay, i'll play with the scaling size in Display and the font size in Tweak Tool, I think I can get an okay combo out of it. just wanted to check if there's a better way :)
[17:00] <Meway-Desktop> whats vps box?
[17:01] <ioria> tucnak, can you locate  gtk.h
[17:01] <ioria> ?
[17:01] <ibuidan> meway-desktop *tip* use Partition Wizard Home Edititon bootable CD, like gparted live cd, but has option to convert logical volumes to primary volumes without formatting, without losing any data on the volume
[17:01] <mchelen1> agrippaz, everything i read points to using scaling, and that is supposed to handle things system-wide
[17:02] <tucnak> ioria: there is FindGtk in fact, thanks, fixed it!
[17:02] <agrippaz> mchelen1: thank you very much. you've been very helpful :)
[17:02] <agrippaz> good to talk to someone else in the same boat
[17:02] <ioria> tucnak, good
[17:02] <Meway-Desktop> ibuidan: that might help :>
[17:02] <Meway-Desktop> ibuidan: dont have a link off hand do you?
[17:03] <ibuidan> wait please
[17:04] <mchelen1> agrippaz, np, here is what i ended up with: http://i.imgur.com/2kaYIqY.jpg
[17:04] <ibuidan> http://www.partitionwizard.com/partition-wizard-bootable-cd.html
[17:04] <mchelen1> agrippaz, still trying to tweak it more
[17:05] <Meway-Desktop> ibuidan: ty
[17:06] <ibuidan> after the conversion , you can use ms-dos command line in Windows Recovery Environment to expand a volume using only next in volumke order, free, unallocatd space
[17:08] <ibuidan> i make, burn bootable cd using bootable iso images using PowerISO in Microsoft Windows
[17:13] <ibuidan> an extended partition can contain unlimited number of logical volumes
[17:14] <LucArionXY> hello
[17:14] <gndlp> LucArionXY: HI!
[17:14] <elie> hello
[17:14] <Guest60327> ok
[17:15] <Guest60327> ???
[17:15] <Guest60327> bye
[17:15] <LucArionXY> hello  trapni
[17:15] <Audaces> how do I launch a hidden folder from terminal?
[17:15] <Audaces> If I do ls -a and get a result, how to I open with a gui
[17:16] <zykotick9> Audaces: in your file manger, try CTRL+h to see hidden files... <- one option
[17:16] <LucArionXY> defquien me va a comer os huevos ?
[17:16] <Audaces> oh that works, thanks
[17:18] <jabolele> hello
[17:18] <hkrrsx> Audaces: From a terminal, run " nautilus .folder " and the file manager will open the specified directory
[17:18] <hkrrsx> i.e. - nautilus ~/.config
[17:19] <jabolele> There are some Spanish?
[17:19] <ioria> in Spain  ?   yes
[17:20] <zykotick9> !es | jabolele
[17:20] <Audaces> ty
[17:21] <maesrin> kalispera paidia
[17:21] <ioria> kalispera
[17:23] <sheap> anyone know if there's anything special I have to wrap my late_command with in this case? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719517/
[17:25] <starrion> for what purpose is this chat ?
[17:25] <Meway-Desktop> ibuidan: it won't merge the drives without premium :|
[17:26] <k1l_> !topic | starrion
[17:26] <ibuidan> well i tought you want to expand the volume not merge it with another volume
[17:26] <starrion> coñetas
[17:29] <OEP> sheap: that gets passed as the COMMAND argument to chroot. It's possible /bin/sh -c '...' may do what you need to.
[17:30] <OEP> sheap: I've never used pipes for something like that so YMMV
[17:30] <logan0407> hey guys im getting some real strange laptop keyboard behavior in lubuntu in certain apps. in firefox, and in games the keyboard misses keys sometimes and just puts in a space, and backspace malfunctions to. any suggestions?
[17:30] <ioria> logan0407, what laptop ?
[17:31] <logan0407> im on a chromebook with lubuntu installed
[17:31] <logan0407> acer c710
[17:31] <ioria> ohmy
[17:31] <logan0407> its only in certain apps, xchat works great
[17:31] <ibuidan> *thought , misspelled it
[17:31] <sheap> OEP: thanks, I was thinking because I didn't specify bash
[17:32] <logan0407> i just restarted firefox now typing seems to work fine, but it happens periodically randomly. anyone know what could be the cause?
[17:32] <geedilla> hello
[17:32] <geedilla> I'm using elementary os, and I'm having some trouble with wifi
[17:32] <geedilla> I'm not sure if it's because of my laptop's drivers or because I haven't specified the right kind of network security
[17:32] <ioria> logan0407, font cache  or keyboard driver
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> !elementary | geedilla
[17:33] <logan0407> hmm i think it may be the font cache you are right
[17:34] <geedilla> ubottu: thanks
[17:34] <geedilla> I thought I'd try in here because no one's replying in that channel!
[17:35] <teward> geedilla: there's a thing called patience and I suggest you try some there.  Elementary OS is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu (from the Ubuntu perspective).
[17:36] <OEP> sheap: what are you trying to do with fdisk? not sure what 'a' does.
[17:36] <geedilla> teward: thanks - that's helpful to know. but there's no need to be patronising
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> geedilla: we can reccomend you to install ubuntu desktop 14.04.2 and try out wifi
[17:36] <geedilla> I had linux mint working and it was perfect
[17:37] <geedilla> just thought I would try this distribution too, with less luck so far
[17:37] <geedilla> no worries - thanks all
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> geedilla  try a distro that's more supported, like ubuntu
[17:38] <geedilla> agree
[17:38] <geedilla> thanks
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> someone knows a way to mount the HD of a windows laptop from ubuntu, without taking out the HD physicaly?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> lets say to rescue data with photorec
[17:40] <teward> lotuspsychje: liveusb on the windows laptop used solely for the live interface, and you put photorec on the liveusb, maybe, would work
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> teward: ah great idea, tnx
[17:41] <teward> lotuspsychje: but if you don't physically have access to the machine it's going to be 'hard' to mount it remotely in a way that photorec would work
[17:41] <teward> lotuspsychje: get permission to do it on the system, though, for legal/liability purposes.
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> teward: i think also liveusb would be my best bet then, tnx
[17:42] <SysAdmin7> what about liveusb with persistence
[17:42] <SysAdmin7> install photorec
[17:42] <ibuidan> i just want to say that choosing between kde, gnome, unity, cinnamon, xfce, lxle, openbox, mate it's not just a matter of personal criticism. for example i use xfce, gonme, and lxle just becuse it provide a taskbar icon to chnage keyboard layout. i hope this thing could change in the near future
[17:42] <SysAdmin7> use docky...
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> SysAdmin7: docky?
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> ah nvm
[17:42] <ibuidan> docky?
[17:43] <SysAdmin7> yea
[17:43] <SysAdmin7> look it up
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | ibuidan
[17:43] <teward> SysAdmin7: he could do that but he wouldn't necessarily have to
[17:43] <SysAdmin7> true, but i find it better that the lxle dock
[17:43] <teward> lotuspsychje: you may want to consider the LiveUSB with persistence if you want to set up the LiveUSB with packages for this before booting to it (such as the photorec package and dependencies)
[17:43] <SysAdmin7> already told him that
[17:44] <SysAdmin7> he may not have got it
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> yep ill do that tnx
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> i got it alrright
[17:44] <SysAdmin7> kool, tell us how it turns out
[17:44] <Guest65132> Hello, how do I install TeamWieur on Linux Mint  KDE 64 bits Rebeca??
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> !mint | Guest65132
[17:45] <Meway-Desktop> yay I broke it thinks for the help xD q.q (got to learn somehow)
[17:46]  * Meway-Desktop shrinks himself and jumps into the HDD needle
[17:54] <SysAdmin7> .
[18:00] <Draven> names
[18:03] <in_deep_thought> im trying to make a photo collage
[18:03] <in_deep_thought> any good suggestions for tools?
[18:03] <in_deep_thought> gimp?
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> in_deep_thought: there is an app photocollage, but you need to add a ppa: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/make-photo-collage-ubuntu-1404/
[18:06] <in_deep_thought> lotuspsychje: thansk
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> !info fotowall | in_deep_thought found one :p
[18:09] <ibuidan> PCMANFM is a window manger? Can i use pcmanfm-lxde instead of openbox-lxde as a viable desktop session ?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !info pcmanfm | ibuidan
[18:10] <Na3iL> hey folks!
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !windowmanagers | ibuidan
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> Na3iL: hello mate
[18:11] <Na3iL> hello lotuspsychje
[18:11] <Na3iL> hows u :)
[18:11] <ioria> ibuidan, no it's   a file manager
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> Na3iL: can we help you with something?
[18:11] <Na3iL> what the wrong with Ubuntu core http://www.ubuntu.com/things
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> Na3iL: what do you mean 'wrong'?
[18:12] <ibuidan> fm -- file manager. never mind . thanks anyway
[18:12] <ioria> ibuidan, you mean   on VNC    ?
[18:13] <Na3iL> did u see the new project of Ubuntu ninja sphere?
[18:13] <Na3iL> the collaboration betwen Ubuntu and micro$oft?
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Na3iL  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[18:14] <ibuidan> i have lightdm installed and i use multiple lightdm - desktop environments compatible> openbox, xfce, lxde and ubuntu-session.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Na3iL: discuss those in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:15] <ioria> ibuidan, it's just a  program ... you can run it as you want
[18:20] <h0ddH3d> How can i terminate the X server. I want to use "tty" to save more time when using battery.
[18:21] <ioria> h0ddH3d,  you can modify grub to start in text mode and then start the windowmanager
[18:22] <Downchuck> I'm trying to re-use some tinycore binaries, but I keep getting: "No such file or directory", which I believe means linux does not recognize the binary
[18:22] <Downchuck> That said, "file" recognizes it quite fine.
[18:22] <Downchuck> ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 3.0.21, stripped
[18:23] <h0ddH3d> ioria: How to do that?
[18:24] <ioria> h0ddH3d,  modify  /etc/default/grub and replace quite splash  with  text  -  sudo update-grub
[18:24] <ioria> h0ddH3d,  then from the shell sudo service lightdm start
[18:25] <ioria> h0ddH3d,  or gdm  or what you have
[18:27] <Downchuck> Not that I'm right, but answering my own question anyway: Downchuck, have you tried running "ldd" and seeing if some linked libraries are missing?
[18:28] <h0ddH3d> ioria: Thanks, Can I add new option to grub. So the first one start ubuntu normaly and the other one start without The X server ??
[18:28] <ioria> h0ddH3d,  yep
[18:29] <Gevox> helo, i mounted a folder with noatime using "mount -o remount,noatime /dev/md2 /home/www/uploads/tmp -t ext4" then mount -a. now the dir contains everything was in /home directory and whenever i delete a file from the tmp directory the file get deleted from the home directory too
[18:29] <Gevox> how can i solve this please?
[18:29] <h0ddH3d> ioria: How?
[18:30] <ioria> h0ddH3d,  well... Xinit  it's not started  ithink
[18:34] <h0ddH3d> ioria: Thanks for helping ^_^ I will search for it.
[18:34] <ioria> h0ddH3d,  np
[18:40] <agrippaz> Anyone know how to disable the Keyring unlock nag when starting Chromium on a fresh install of 14.04?
[19:05] <Guest20728> Hi. New Acer Aspire Nitro i7(Secure boot disabled). I installed Win7 with intention of installing XUbuntu 14.04 as dual boot. However, the installer doesn't see Windows(part editor sees a blank HDD). However, Xubuntu file explorer(Thunar) sees the files the OS created. What can I do?
[19:06] <ObrienDave> try the "something else? option
[19:06] <ObrienDave> *"something else"
[19:06] <Guest20728> It shows no OS.
[19:07] <Guest20728> I might reinstall Win7 with Secureboot enabled.
[19:07] <ObrienDave> worth a try, i think
[19:07]  * Guest20728 fucking hates secureboot
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Guest20728
[19:07] <Erfolg> win7 doesn't work w/ secureboot
[19:07] <Guest20728> Erfolg, i was afraid of that :)
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest20728: make your life easy and install ubuntu 14.04 single :p
[19:08] <Guest20728> lotuspsychje, i want to.. but I want win around for work reasons(sometimes a vm dont cut it).
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest20728: wine or playonlinux might do the trick
[19:08] <Guest20728> I don't want MS to die but I will be glad when they are a minority in the future of PC architecture...and not heard.
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest20728: alot of packages can replace your work needs already on ubuntu
[19:09]  * Guest20728 is no stranger to linux.
[19:09] <Guest20728> I know, but I have 1tb and used to dual boot elsewhere
[19:11]  * ObrienDave is thinking about taking apart 2TB seagate portable for laptop drive
[19:12] <azizLIGHT> do i have trim for my ssd in ubuntu ?
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> !trim | azizLIGHT
[19:12] <Guest20728> 14.04 has it built in AFAIK
[19:12] <azizLIGHT> i am on 14.04
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: but there are still many tweaks you can do on your ssd
[19:12] <azizLIGHT> how do i verify it active?
[19:12] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: oh yes? please tell
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: tweak your fstab, swappiness
[19:13] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: since 14.04 its automated batched discard
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: install preload
[19:13] <Guest20728> and throw swap on a spinning HDD if you can
[19:13]  * Guest20728 prefers a swapfile not a swap partition.
[19:14] <azizLIGHT> ok... im not familiar with alot of what was just said
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[19:14] <azizLIGHT> what tweaks are there for fstab for an ssd? some specific mount options or something?
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: yes, i use relatime and tpmfs dirs
[19:15] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: i read that its for some models? i have samsung 850 evo
[19:15] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: lists "la -al /etc/cron.weekly/" a fstrim file?
[19:16] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: it doesnt matter what model
[19:16] <azizLIGHT> yes i see a fstrim file listed with that command
[19:16] <bootwithlibraryc> i borked my install, and now im trying to install a live boot to a usb using a library computer wwhich wont let you install programs
[19:16] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: so it trims once a week automatically. nothing to worry
[19:17] <bootwithlibraryc> can i just move the contents of an iso to a usb disk and have that work?\
[19:17] <sidavy> hi
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | azizLIGHT install this also to boost up
[19:17] <azizLIGHT> Guest20728: so correct me if im wrong, you put the swap on your hdd so it doesnt wear out the ssd, right?
[19:17] <yorwos> hey guyz , if i make a new user and wanna copy all my desktop settings (panels + shortcuts) how could i do it ?
[19:17] <Guest20728> azizLIGHT, yes. although i dont care about wearing out the SSD. I care about the space
[19:18] <azizLIGHT> oh, i have 16gb swap space
[19:18] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: how much ram you got?
[19:18] <azizLIGHT> 16gb ram
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: you can set your firefox to buffer 0 also
[19:18] <ObrienDave> bootwithlibraryc, no, it does not work that way. DVD yes, USB no
[19:18] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: wow that sounds useful, what will it do?
[19:18] <bootwithlibraryc> ObrienDave: it worked with windows
[19:18] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: so you might not need swap at all if you dont use ram hungry porgrams or want to suspend to ram
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: use your ssd power instead of ram on firefox
[19:19] <azizLIGHT> i like suspend, but i will move it to hdd, like Guest20728 said
[19:19] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: what?
[19:19] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: i dont get it?
[19:19] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: ram is a lot faster than ssds.
[19:19] <Erfolg> bootwithlibraryc, you can dd the iso to usb
[19:19] <bootwithlibraryc> like not the iso itself, but the actual contents. the partition fat32 has the boot flag
[19:20] <bootwithlibraryc> Erfolg: on windows. I dont think it has dd, does it?\
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: buffer on 0 here on samsung evo 840 and works rocketfast
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: but im on a netbook with 2gig ram only
[19:21] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: should i use any fstab options for an ssd?
[19:21] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: oh ok. in that case ill not use buffer 0 for firefox. i got 16gb ram
[19:21] <Erfolg> bootwithlibraryc, there's a windd program i believe and msys2 also has dd
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: check the link on ssd tweaking i pasted you
[19:22] <bootwithlibraryc> mmmm ill have to see
[19:22] <azizLIGHT> ah yea forgot about that
[19:23] <azizLIGHT> thanks
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: relatime in fstab works pretty good
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: instead of noatime
[19:23] <azizLIGHT> must i do something special for trim with luks and lvm?
[19:24] <bootwithlibraryc> lol my way seems to have worked :)
[19:24] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: honestly i dont like that tune up site. what about you start with the ubuntu standards and read yourself into the topic, so you can decide yourself what is best
[19:25] <azizLIGHT> alright
[19:25] <azizLIGHT> one thing defintely i will do is move my swap from ssd to hdd
[19:26] <bootwithlibraryc> oh shit
[19:27] <CptRageToaster> I've got a friend on Mint16, which appears to be based on saucy
[19:27] <bootwithlibraryc> flipping windows borked my partition table. where an ext4 is, shows empty space. How do I recover?
[19:28]  * zykotick9 has his swap on ssd (because of the speed), he doesn't hope for his SSDs to last 5-10 years, they'll be replaced before then... YMMV
[19:28] <CptRageToaster> are there any live browers/search functions to find libselinux.so.1(32bit) for saucy?
[19:28] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: for info about mint see their channel /website
[19:28] <k1l_> !mint | CptRageToaster
[19:28] <CptRageToaster> I'm just after the repository browser...
[19:28] <CptRageToaster> which I thought would be here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/uk/
[19:28] <CptRageToaster> but saucy appears to be missing
[19:28] <Dan_C> Hello
[19:29] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: mint uses some mix of different repos. so please ask them
[19:29] <polishpoliceforc> In the context of Mat being a datatype for an array that describes an image, what would Mat edge = gray > = edgeThresh, dist, labels; mean?
[19:29] <ObrienDave> !saucy
[19:29] <polishpoliceforc> oops
[19:29] <polishpoliceforc> wrong channel sorry
[19:29] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: saucy is shut down. so last time now: please ask mint support about mint issues.
[19:33] <bprompt> CptRageToaster:    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27932825/resolve-error-while-loading-shared-libraries-libselinux-so-1-in-ubuntu-14-04-lt    points to "ldconfig", likely needed to be run as "su", or sudo, also you may want to try  a "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[19:39] <hackspace> 	/join #mk-makerspace
[19:41] <Bray90820> How would I permanently mount an EX4 SMB share on ubuntu 14.10
[19:41] <drozek123> How can anyone help me remove a video output from xrandr?
[19:41] <bekks> Whats an "EX4 SMB" share?
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | drozek123
[19:42] <Bray90820> bekks: it's a QNAP Nas with an EX4 file system
[19:43] <bekks> Bray90820: I never heard of "EX4". Do you mean "ext4"?
[19:43] <Bray90820> Oh sorry yes I did mean EXT4
[19:43] <drozek123> ubottu: I want to complete remove HDMI whenever I run xrandr
[19:43] <bekks> Bray90820: And the underlying filesystem is irrelevant, since you mount the smb share.
[19:43] <bekks> Bray90820: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[19:44] <Bray90820> bekks: Does it matter that that is a windows share tutorial
[19:44] <bekks> Bray90820: No. Because smb shares are Windows shares.
[19:45] <ubuntu_> hello.
[19:45] <Bray90820> bekks: what exactly do you mean by windows share because windows is not installed on this qnap
[19:45] <ubuntu_> hello body
[19:46] <bekks> Bray90820: SMB is a filesharing protocol which is used by Windows.
[19:46] <k1l_> Bray90820: samba is a windows protocol
[19:46] <k1l_> Bray90820: so it doesnt matter if its provided by  a windows or a linux server. all your ubuntu sees is the samba
[19:46] <CptRageToaster> I found a way to search the available repositories...
[19:46] <siminm> Hello everyone! Is there a way to pause syslog from writing to disk?
[19:46] <CptRageToaster> is it not normal to handle debian based questions?
[19:47] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: for debian question please see #debian
[19:47] <ObrienDave> here? this is Ubuntu support
[19:47] <CptRageToaster> or even questions specifically about ubuntu repositories?
[19:47] <CptRageToaster> debian makes sense, and I'd go to #debian...
[19:47] <Pici> CptRageToaster: As we said before Saucy reached its end of life a year ago, it is not supported.
[19:47] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: please stop the drama now! if you use mint, ask the mint support. if you dont like their support, dont use mint. thats it.
[19:48] <SysAdmin7> Any1 need help?
[19:48] <ubuntu_> ¡por favor!, ¿alg-un canal en español?
[19:48] <drozek123> systemadmin7 yes i do
[19:48] <bekks> !es | ubuntu_
[19:48] <Aeiortv> Today's the day I have to decide, I'm installing my new SSD - should I dual boot with windows 8.1 or single boot with just Ubuntu on my SSD?
[19:48] <Johnny_Linux> ubuntu
[19:48] <bekks> Aeiortv: Thats only up to you.
[19:48] <ubuntu_> thank you..
[19:49] <Johnny_Linux> ltd
[19:49] <Johnny_Linux> lts
[19:49] <drozek123> SysAdmin7: I do, I want to figure out how to remove video outputs from xrandr, it is causes issues with our application
[19:49] <Aeiortv> Johnny_Linux: 1404?
[19:49] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[19:49] <designbybeck__> India has a bunch of stores selling Ubuntu Linux machines correct? http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/india-doubles-down-on-use-of-open-source-software/articleshow/46738604.cms
[19:49] <ObrienDave> CptRageToaster, Ubuntu repos, yes. Debian, no
[19:49] <SysAdmin7> Wat do u need
[19:49] <Johnny_Linux> you have the latest with longevity
[19:49] <Aeiortv> will secure boot + UEFI prevent me from installing ubuntu?
[19:50] <drozek123> I need DP2 and HDMI2 to stop showing up on xrandr
[19:50] <drozek123> i need to disable it before it boots to ubuntu 14.04
[19:50] <ObrienDave> !uefi | Aeiortv
[19:50] <Aeiortv> thank you ObrienDave
[19:50] <CptRageToaster> ObrienDave: it's apparently an issue with fielding questions specifically about saucy repos...
[19:50] <CptRageToaster> I'll have to word my questions carefully in the future I guess
[19:50] <CptRageToaster> ./end
[19:51] <bekks> CptRageToaster: you have to use Ubuntu for getting Ubuntu support ;)
[19:52] <SysAdmin7> try --output --off
[19:52] <ObrienDave> CptRageToaster, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[19:53] <drozek123> i have it still shows up after a reboot
[19:58] <siminm> Does anyone know if there's a way to pause syslog from writing to disk?
[19:59] <bekks> siminm: Stop it, since the purpose of syslog is writing logs to disks.
[20:00] <siminm> bekks: I'm not sure what the systems would do if syslog is actually stopped
[20:00] <akkad> pkill -STOP syslog
[20:00] <IdleOne> siminm: nothing harmful except you won't have the logs written
[20:00] <bekks> siminm: Nothing. Besides not logging anymore.
[20:00] <siminm> oh awesome. scary but awesome. thanks
[20:03] <Superfly_> \server asylumnet.org
[20:05] <akkad> siminm: chattr -R +i /
[20:05] <akkad> should fix it
[20:06] <bekks> akkad: Erm, no?
[20:06] <bekks> siminm: Dont run that command.
[20:06] <siminm> bekks: :)
[20:06] <zerowaitstate> akkad: oh wow no
[20:07] <siminm> I run everything people tell me
[20:07] <bekks> siminm: Hopefully you dont.
[20:07] <might_get_loud> Well that's sad.
[20:07] <akkad> secure mode
[20:07] <zerowaitstate> that's almost as bad as "rpm -qa | xargs rpm -e", something I have unfortunately done
[20:08] <akkad> why not just wipe the rpm db
[20:08] <bekks> akkad: Thats totally unrelated to his question.
[20:08] <bekks> akkad: Can you please refrain from the unrelated offtopic?
[20:10] <siminm> I just tested stopping /etc/init.d/syslog-ng and it works great. Logs stop, but services work fine
[20:11] <akiaki> Hey all. I tried installing windows, and I deleted an old ext4 partition at the beginning of my device. It told me after "no cigar" and when I rebooted, my other ext4 partition now appears as "unallocated space" in sda2
[20:11] <akiaki> how do I recover my ext4 partition?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[20:11] <zerowaitstate> siminm: for a better long term solution I recommend modifying the logrotate.d/rsyslog to include a maximum log size that triggers rotation. That would prevent the disk from filling up in an error situation
[20:12] <argha__> my skype is not working what do i do?
[20:12] <argha__> I am unable to login to skype
[20:12] <argha__> can anybody help me?
[20:13] <argha__> ho do i fix it
[20:13] <siminm> zerowaitstate: thanks; filesize wasn't the problem. I was debugging too frequent writes to hdd
[20:13] <might_get_loud> @argha__ is that the first time installing skype?
[20:13] <might_get_loud> or did you had problems earlier?
[20:13] <argha__> yes
[20:13] <messiahone> hi
[20:14] <argha__> this is the fierst  time
[20:14] <argha__> **first
[20:14] <might_get_loud> how did you installed skype?
[20:14] <UNNGH> hi
[20:14] <zerowaitstate> siminm: you can also use the conf file for your syslog daemon to direct particular event sources to console or dev/null
[20:14] <might_get_loud> via apt-get or downloaded .deb?
[20:14] <UNNGH> hi there, how do i get my name yellow?
[20:14] <k1l_> create an account on skype first?
[20:14] <siminm> zerowaitstate: oh! useful. I'll read up on that
[20:14] <argha__> install from terminal
[20:14] <argha__> everything coming well in  my screen
[20:15] <argha__> but i am only unable to log in
[20:15] <zerowaitstate> siminm: yeah, that's dependent on your particular syslog daemon implementation; it's not something you control from logrotate
[20:15] <argha__> after browsing for sometimes it has stopped working
[20:16] <argha__> might can you tell me how di i fix it?
[20:16] <might_get_loud> Actully no, i thought it was deb install
[20:17] <argha__> no.skkype has been installed  in my desktop
[20:17] <might_get_loud> Becouse installing via debs wont install libs that you need, just raw skype file.
[20:17] <argha__> but it unablle to log in
[20:17] <might_get_loud> because*
[20:17] <argha__> is it issue with skype version?
[20:18] <argha__> yes
[20:18] <might_get_loud> I dont think so, because if you installed it via terminal it automaticly install the latest version
[20:18] <argha__> actually if it not installed properly then the login window will not come i think  so
[20:18] <argha__> might
[20:18] <might_get_loud> but you could anyway try update and upgrade
[20:18] <might_get_loud> I had problems before with kind of same thing
[20:19] <argha__> how ?
[20:19] <might_get_loud> logins screen pops but i was unable to login for like 2 h
[20:19] <argha__> skype  version is  4.3.0.37
[20:19] <might_get_loud> sec pls
[20:19] <argha__> ya the sam thing i am also facing
[20:19] <argha__> hw do i fix it?
[20:20] <argha__> have any idea?
[20:20] <might_get_loud>  Yeah, my 4.3.0.37 works
[20:20] <might_get_loud> IDK
[20:20] <might_get_loud> sure that your password is ok? :D
[20:20] <might_get_loud> idk sorry dude
[20:20] <argha__> yup
[20:20] <might_get_loud> hope you find answer somewhere else
[20:20] <argha__> i am logginn in from my phone
[20:20] <argha__> and it's working
[20:21] <CptRageToaster> argha__: I'm assuming your pc is connected to the internet?
[20:21] <CptRageToaster> (still?)
[20:21] <argha__> yes it's connected with internet
[20:22] <CptRageToaster> that's pretty weird...
[20:22] <CptRageToaster> I wonder if opening skype at the terminal, would display the errors it has
[20:22] <CptRageToaster> then, you could login, and see the console chatter
[20:22] <argha__> when i signing in it's window continuously popping up
[20:23] <argha__> but after sometimes it has been again comes to it's preliminary state
[20:25] <argha__> oh my god after a long time it's ultimately logging  in
[20:25] <argha__> than you cp and might for ur kind cooperation
[20:25] <OerHeks> call me maybe :-P
[20:26] <CptRageToaster> you may want to run skype from the command line, if that long-loggin time continues :)
[20:26] <CptRageToaster> login*
[20:26] <Traintop> Hi Folks! -I have a Thinkpad X61T and a script to rotate the screen and would like to bind it to the dedicated button on the tablet, but ubuntu will always activate the screensaver even if I add a custum key-binding to my script.... -any ideas where I could "delete" this binding to the screensaver?
[20:27] <mchelen1> #ubuntu-touch maybe?
[20:27] <mchelen1> i'm not sure which shortcut system its using
[20:28] <mchelen1> Traintop, did you check keyboard settings/shortcuts?
[20:28] <argha__> how do login in skype from terminal?
[20:29] <argha__> how do i log in into skype?
[20:29] <argha__> from command line
[20:29] <argha__> cptrage
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> argha__: You shouldn't have to
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> you should be able to START skype from the terminal
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> skype will then open it's window normally
[20:29] <argha__> what  is the command
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> but, you'll have a log
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> oh... I wouldn't know actually
[20:30] <CptRageToaster> have you tried typing
[20:30] <CptRageToaster> skype
[20:30] <CptRageToaster> and then hitting tab?
[20:30] <CptRageToaster> it might be as simple as saying "skype" in your terminal
[20:30] <argha__> i m trying wait a min
[20:30] <OerHeks> skype &
[20:31] <argha__> ya skype windows coming is comng
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> OerHeks: No need to send it to the background if you want the log...
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> right?
[20:31] <argha__> but if i want to login from the terminal then
[20:31] <argha__> what is t command?
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> argha__: eee... that's...
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> that may not be possible
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> not sure...
[20:32] <argha__> ok
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> skype MIGHT support some command line arguments
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> I'm going to google, and see if I can come up with anything
[20:33] <argha__> ok
[20:33] <CptRageToaster> argha__: There are some places for it
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> argha__: have you tried skype --help ?
[20:33] <argha__> what r those?
[20:34] <SysAdmin7> Did dzorek say the command worked?
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> argha__: seems you can even initiate a call with the cli, didn't know that.
[20:34] <CptRageToaster> yeah... that's pretty nifty...
[20:34] <argha__> no
[20:34] <argha__> i type skype help but
[20:34] <CptRageToaster> argha__: with the dashes? (--)
[20:34] <argha__> there has no option for loggin in
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> SysAdmin7: <drozek123> i have it still shows up after a reboot
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> argha__: This stackoverflow looks like it answers your question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/350072/how-to-log-in-to-skype-via-command-line
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> argha__: skype --help will show --pipelogin, which might be what you want.
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> specifically the --pipelogin
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> $ echo username password | skype --pipelogin
[20:36] <SysAdmin7> Oh, hmm
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> yeah
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> not amazing...
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> not very secure...
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> but it works
[20:37] <SysAdmin7> Let me think
[20:37] <bekks> Why not just login in via the skype gui?
[20:37] <SchrodingersScat> harder to script the skype gui to login to various accounts, run actions, logout or open new instances
[20:38] <CptRageToaster> ^
[20:38] <bekks> Sounds like skype spamming :)
[20:44] <Traintop> mchelen1: yes, this is my problem; I added a new "custom" keybinding there with no erorrs, but still the button works as the screensaver-button
[20:45] <SysAdmin7> ok, I'm back. Is dzorek on?
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> !tab | SysAdmin7
[20:45] <mchelen1> Traintop, do you see any other shortcuts that use the same keys?
[20:45] <mchelen1> Traintop, maybe install compizconfig
[20:46] <SysAdmin7> Oh, thx. Usin a hacked blackberry
[20:47] <Traintop> mchelen1: no, I see no other keybinding in the default gui
[20:47] <mchelen1> Traintop, ah ok there you gi
[20:47] <Traintop> mchelen1: so I thought this could be somewhere in the startup-scripts
[20:47] <mchelen1> *go
[20:48] <Traintop> sorry, had to go afk...
[20:48] <Traintop> mchelen1: I'm just trying compizconfig
[20:49] <mchelen1> Traintop, ok, im wondering if one of the compiz actions is using the same key combo
[20:50] <Traintop> compiz-keybindings are not activated
[20:50] <Traintop> should I do so?
[20:50] <Traintop> I think no... -as I am wondering where this "screensaver-button" binding comes from...
[20:51] <Es0teric> anyone here know about apache?
[20:51] <Traintop> if it's of interest: the same problem goes with all the tablet-buttons: the onscreen-keyboard-button is used as "toggle touchpad on/off"
[20:51] <Traintop> and I cannot override with the default gui
[20:52] <Traintop> that's why I asked here; I think this iś defined somewhere in config-files... -but I don't know where
[20:52] <Traintop> even "grep"ed for it, but to no avail...
[20:53] <Traintop> mchelen1: do you think the compiz-keybinding have higher priority; perhaps trying to bind the script there?
[20:54] <argha__> how do i logging in skype from terminal?
[20:55] <argha__> can anybody tell me?
[20:55] <Traintop> argha__: CptRageRoaster told you a few pages ago
[20:55] <mchelen1> Traintop, idk about priority, but they could both be activated
[20:56] <mchelen1> Traintop, you might have more luck asking in #ubuntu-touch tho since i'm guessing thats the version you have
[20:56] <argha__> i have to only type echo argha  abc | skype --pipelogin
[20:56] <argha__> or somthing else?
[20:56] <argha__> username and password for ex
[20:56] <bekks> "for ex"?
[20:56] <argha__> example
[20:57] <pyoor> hi all.  I seem to be having a problem with my swap partition using an FDE on ubuntu 14.04.  I get an error message stating that /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready or present.  swapon -s reports no swap partition.  I've tried reformatting and rebuilding the swap partition but no luck
[20:57] <Traintop> mchelen1: tested compiz: my script isn't started, but the notifier for the touchpadtoggle does not show anymore; will dig into this further; thanks man
[20:57] <mchelen1> Traintop, np good luck
[20:57] <pyoor> can anyone point me to a doc that describes the process when using LVM and full disk encryption?
[20:57] <Traintop> mchelen1: and I am using the normal ubuntu 12.04 I think there was no touch-variant at this time
[20:58] <mchelen1> Traintop, ah ok
[20:58] <bekks> pyoor: What is a "FDE"?
[20:58] <argha__> i write the above cmd but the only skype window coming
[20:58] <bekks> argha__: Which "above command"?
[20:58] <argha__> loggging in is not working by this command
[20:58] <argha__> yes
[20:58] <Traintop> argha__: I cannot verify what CptRageRoaster said as I have no skype; but what CptRage... wrote seems intuitivly
[20:58] <OerHeks> why would one need terminal login for a gui programm like skype..
[20:59] <zykotick9> bekks: FDE = Full Disk Encryption
[20:59] <k1l_> argha__: just use the skype gui
[20:59] <argha__> ok
[21:00] <Traintop> mchelen1: but thanks for the hint to #ubuntu-touch; will go there and try if someone there had the same problem and an elegant solution :-)
[21:00] <argha__> ya gui is working but i want to log in from termianl
[21:00] <k1l_> argha__: then take the time and read the documentation. users in here explained it already to you. if you want to know more read the skype docs
[21:02] <mchelen1> Traintop, yah if you are running on a tablet it might be worth investigating
[21:02] <mchelen1> Traintop, or consider upgrading to 14.04
[21:03] <Traintop> mchelen1: this is an core2duo@1.6GH; and as 12.04 works I do not want to change to a newer system with more background-daemons... ;->
[21:04] <Traintop> mchelen1: except for these 3 buttons everything else works like a charme :-)
[21:04] <bekks> Traintop: So disable all those "background daemons" if you dont like them. Whatever those may be.
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> how do I copy something to chroot?
[21:05] <mchelen1> Traintop, there might be better touchscreen support though, but if most things are working now then maybe dont mess with it
[21:05] <Traintop> mchelen1: that's what I think :-)
[21:06] <NGC3982> Hi. I use album today, and i notice that it does not seem to update itself when i add new pictures to it. Is this configurable? I can't seem to find anything regarding it in the manual.
[21:06] <mchelen1> Traintop, can always try a liveusb and see
[21:06] <Traintop> but to bring back another idea: even in coompizconfig when I "bind" the button to the script, compizconfig names the key "XFree86ToggleTouchpad" this has to come from somewhere... -any ideas?
[21:07] <mchelen1> Traintop, that just sounds like the system id for the button
[21:08] <Traintop> bekks: asides from trying to get this working in ubuntu I am in parallel building a linux-from-scratch so I know exactly where something is defined and configured... -but that's another story :-)
[21:09] <Traintop> mchelen1: do you eventually know where these are defined in ubuntu... -so I could look there for a solution?
[21:10] <mchelen1> Traintop, you can probably find the definition somewhere in the source code, but i don't think thats what you want
[21:10] <mchelen1> Traintop, the name doesn't matter except that its bound to some action somewhere
[21:11] <Traintop> mchelen1: no :-) -I rather thought of a file where these definitions are done while booting or so...
[21:11] <mchelen1> Traintop, those aren't necessarily text files
[21:11] <mchelen1> they can be compiled binaries
[21:11] <Traintop> what I think is funny, my laptop doesn't even have a touchpad, but ubuntu installs this keybinding even with notifier-icon and so on... :-)
[21:12] <mchelen1> Traintop, its possible the touchscreen itself is treated as a touchpad
[21:14] <Traintop> mchelen1: the "touchscreen" with the stylus is used as a wacom-graphics-tablet and the finger-touch is something in X (don't exactly know atm what it's called, but it's different to a touchpad
[21:14] <danny002> Hey what do you guys think of Ubuntu Mate?
[21:14] <PartNAS> is ubuntu cat8 ready?
[21:14] <gndlp> hey does anyone know what file cntrl alt L calls in Ubuntu 14.04
[21:15] <gndlp> or how to find that out
[21:15] <danny002> ctrl alt L locks you're pc as far as im aware unless I misread the question.
[21:18] <mchelen1> gndlp, settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts
[21:19] <NGC3982> Can i get Album to update pictures automaticly?
[21:19] <DaveMcAve> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu via the net install, when I boot grub is skipped completely and automatically boots into Ubuntu, giving me no choice at all to boot into the other paritions, what do I do?
[21:19] <bekks> DaveMcAve: Press esc or shift to get into the grub menu.
[21:20] <DaveMcAve> Oh okay
[21:20] <DaveMcAve> Thanks
[21:20] <Traintop> DaveMcAve: be aware of the perhaps small timeout...
[21:20] <zykotick9> DaveMcAve: HOLD shift after boot might be easiest direction...
[21:21] <mchelen1> DaveMcAve, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Boot_Display_Behavior
[21:26] <Eightynine> Hi guys. I'm using openSUSE and it fucked my brain, I hate it's update system. It works bad with Virtualbox(I never had so much problems with it before) and design is total crap. Can you please advice me what DE and FS to use with Ubuntu? Can I replace openSUSE with Ubuntu without formatting whole drive?
[21:26] <bekks> No.
[21:27] <Eightynine> No-I can't replase or you can't advice?
[21:27] <bekks> you cant replace it.
[21:27] <OerHeks> Eightynine, formatting takes seconds
[21:28] <bekks> Backups may take hours, before :)
[21:28] <Eightynine> But I'm using SSD isn't it bad to format it often?
[21:28] <Traintop> EightyNine: delete everthing on disc except /home/<youruser>; should work afaik
[21:29] <Traintop> EightyNine: and use a different default-user on the new system
[21:29] <bekks> Eightynine: Thats an urban legend.
[21:29] <OerHeks> Don't mix suse with ubuntu installation, clean install is the best way.
[21:30] <OerHeks> If you don't make a backup of your data, then that data is not important. this is generally for any system change.
[21:31] <Eightynine> I have 40 GB root, 3,86 GB swap, 67,92 GB home and 3 1,92 GB tmpfs volumes.
[21:31] <bekks> BAckup your data, and install Ubuntu cleanly.
[21:31] <Eightynine> Can I just format root?
[21:32] <bekks> Backup your data, destroy all partitions found, and install Ubuntu onto the disk.
[21:32] <PartNAS> i guess thats the point of having root partition
[21:33] <PartNAS> Eightynine: you forgot to make a backup partition
[21:33] <Eightynine> openSUSE made this partition layout.
[21:33] <bekks> PartNAS: BAckups on the same disk are pointless :)
[21:33] <bekks> Eightynine: So destroy and let Ubuntu make its own.
[21:33] <PartNAS> not in this case
[21:35] <PartNAS> is it possible to dualboot another distro on ubuntu phone?
[21:35] <Eightynine> Is this better to use Ubuntu with Unity or can I use it with Gnome and it'll be the same? I used Ubuntu a few years ago and I used Xubuntu(tried it) about a year ago), so I don't know if it's handy to use Unity and if Ubuntu Gnome is stable or not.
[21:35] <OerHeks> PartNAS, better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[21:36] <teward> Eightynine: Ubuntu GNOME has been out for a while and is 'stable' - Unity and GNOME both work, although I personally prefer Unity
[21:36] <isifreek> theres a piece of another window persistant on my screen thru lock/unlock and workspace change
[21:36] <isifreek> wtf
[21:36] <bekks> Eightynine: There is no "better" in terms of "your personal choice".
[21:36] <Eightynine> Why do you prefer Unity? Just asking.
[21:37] <isifreek> ya.. that's a head scratcher
[21:37] <bprompt_> Eightynine:    I don't think folks "prefer" unity, so much  as its the default flavor
[21:37] <Hell-Razor> Does anybody have any experience with mdadm? I created a raid0 on my machine and now would like to try and move my /home directory to it. Currently this is what I can come up with in my fstab http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?452961
[21:37] <bprompt_> Eightynine:    just like many Internet Explorer users "prefer" IE, over other browsers, lazyness maybe
[21:38] <Eightynine> I asked <teward>, he said that he prefer Unity.
[21:38] <bprompt_> Eightynine:    I see,  you may want to prefix your lines then :)
[21:38] <Eightynine> IE has a huge memory leak and interface is working bad.
[21:39] <Eightynine> Sorry, I don't know how to do this in HexChat.
[21:39] <bekks> Eightynine: Type it?
[21:39] <bekks> !tab | Eightynine
[21:39] <teward> Eightynine: but that's just an opinion there's no 'better' one
[21:39] <teward> Eightynine: GNOME is closer to Xubuntu, probably
[21:40] <OerHeks> !flavors
[21:40] <bprompt_> Eightynine:   I prefer kde, and yes, I do prefer it, I've used on many other distributions as well, since I run many kde apps, also run gnome ones as well, since some gnome ones work better than the kde alternative
[21:41] <OerHeks> it is like 20 different brands of peanutbutter :-D
[21:41] <Eightynine> If only developers could rewrite Ubuntu tools on D instead of using Python, Ubuntu could become OS X in Linux world. If only I was a good programmer and not a beginner, I would helped you.
[21:42] <OerHeks> tools on D ?
[21:42] <Eightynine> KDE5 is better than KDE4(I mean it consumes less resources) but I don't like this monster.
[21:42] <Eightynine> Yes, Dlang. I tried to learn it.
[21:43] <Eightynine> Is there a big difference between Gnome and Unity?
[21:44] <Ben64> yes
[21:44] <Eightynine> I wonder which of them is more usable.
[21:44] <ShadowPony> does any one know how to fix this error http://i.imgur.com/n9ILUMY.png?1
[21:44] <OerHeks> Unity is just a compiz plugin on top of gnome3
[21:44] <Ben64> Eightynine: try them both and see
[21:45] <Ben64> ShadowPony: some more details are necessary
[21:46] <ShadowPony> Ben64 the issue is is we use SSH root and dusk can edit the files but not dragony
[21:46] <Ben64> ShadowPony: you shouldn't use ssh root, no idea what dusk and dragony are
[21:46] <ShadowPony> users
[21:46] <Eightynine> I think tomorrow I'll download and install Ubuntu Gnome. Guys, sorry if I'm wrong but I think that tools like Drivers and Software Centre need a good optimisation. They start really slow and long. Maybe you fixed them already.
[21:46] <ShadowPony> dusk and dragony are users
[21:46] <ShadowPony> root is disabled for sshs and everthing
[21:47] <bprompt_> ShadowPony:     maneframe?    sounds "hairy", is that a typo maybe?    did you mean "mainframe"?
[21:47] <ShadowPony> bprompt_:  no that was intentical
[21:47] <ShadowPony> Ben64:  dusk can edit the files but not dragony
[21:48] <Ben64> ok... so what are the permissions on the file
[21:48] <ShadowPony> 777
[21:48] <bprompt_> ShadowPony:     hmmmm sounds like a chown matter though... I'd think you could get around by setting the file to "755" or just a+x
[21:48] <Ben64> sounds like a bad idea
[21:48] <Eightynine> Good luck guys. Thanks for help.
[21:48] <ShadowPony> bprompt_:  why set it to 755
[21:49] <bprompt_> ShadowPony:    to make it a+x pretty much
[21:49] <ShadowPony> bprompt_:  they are 755
[21:50] <Eightynine> Is your site ubuntu.com? Sorry for stupid question.
[21:50] <ShadowPony> bprompt_:  alright dusk owns the dir but not dragony
[21:50] <Ben64> Eightynine: sure, you can get ubuntu there
[21:50] <Eightynine> Thanks.
[21:53] <bprompt_> Eightynine:    hmmm I use kde 4.8.5, haven't checked kde5 yet, just kde 4.13, as far as size, it depends on features, kde can be fancy schmanzy
[21:56] <huig> i am reading things about udev, but i don't know if the article is up to date or not. is currently udev the "way" that ubuntu uses to handle /dev directories?
[21:57] <bekks> huig: Yes.
[22:00] <ramen69> ShadowPony are those users within the correct permissions groups?
[22:03] <tj83> I'm loading "flight gear" from the repository. I see that it appears to me single thread application ? its only making use of one cpu core. anything I can do to split the load up?
[22:03] <tj83> it has one core pegged at 100% and not even hopping cores. just stuck on CPU1
[22:04] <tj83> ++++ttttt----------+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[22:05] <ObrienDave> d/l source and recompile
[22:06] <bekks> and patch source before recompiling.
[22:08] <nrml1> so one of my users did a apt-get dist-upgrade on a VM and now its in a Kernel Panic, anyone experience this before?
[22:09]  * zykotick9 wonders why a user has the right to apt-get anything...
[22:09] <nrml1> decisions made by people with far more arse kissing skills than I
[22:10] <Jordan_U> tj83: There is no way to make a single threaded application usefully use multiple cores other than modifying the source code to no longer be single threaded. That said, I have no idea whether or not flight gear is indeed single threaded. Try joining #flightgear, explain your symptoms, and ask if there is a way to make flightgear run better for you.
[22:10] <OerHeks> i think flightgear 3 uses multicore/gpu .. http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:Activate_multi_core_and_multi_GPU_support
[22:11] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Why were they running "apt-get dist-upgrade" rather than "apt-get upgrade"? What new packages were installed or removed?
[22:11] <nrml1> cause they're dumb... that was their quote by the way
[22:11] <nrml1> he said he did apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:12] <Jordan_U> nrml1: What is the exact error that they see when they try to boot?
[22:12] <nrml1> not sure if it matters but these were 10.04 systems I
[22:13] <k1l_> nrml1: might have changed the kernel
[22:13] <nrml1> k1l_, thats what I'm thinking
[22:13] <k1l_> nrml1: 10.04 goes end of life at the end of april anyway. so you might want to make a new setup :)
[22:13] <nrml1> Jordan_U, Kernel panic - not sysncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[22:13] <Guest21477> Hey, I recently updated from 13.10 to 14.04 and whenever I boot now I'm brought to the grub> prompt, was hoping someone could help me
[22:14] <OerHeks> If those VM's contain a desktop, i bet it is an upgrade notice
[22:14] <nrml1> k1l_, I know but I need to get him off my back if I could just fix it
[22:14] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Guest21477
[22:15] <Guest21477> I'll do that now.
[22:15] <OerHeks> Guest21477, press ctrl alt F7 ( do you see a screen now?)
[22:16] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Putting it another way, if you simply install Ubuntu 14.04 for them now you will solve their current problem *and* the problem they're going to have in one month.
[22:17] <nrml1> Jordan_U, its more complicated than that though.. the environment cant support 14.04 right now (I'm working on centralizing this right now)
[22:17] <DarkAceZ> can I use ecryptfs to encrypt only a certain directory?
[22:17] <nrml1> I'm working on getting a more automated system in place where if they do this again I can blow this one away and then spawn a new one
[22:17] <nrml1> right now its manual :(
[22:20] <Guest21477> I swear booting from my DVD drive is the slowest thing ever
[22:20] <nrml1> from my research people say editing grub may fix it, but its a PITA booting a livecd
[22:21] <Jordan_U> nrml1: You can select an older kernel from the grub menu at boot.
[22:21] <bekks> nrml1: Insert the CD, wait, done?
[22:22] <nrml1> its a VM on an ESXi host
[22:22] <bekks> Attach the ISO to the VM, boot, done?
[22:22] <nrml1> been doing that for like an hour, it wont boot for some reason :/
[22:23] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Can you access the grub menu at boot?
[22:23] <nrml1> nope
[22:23] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Why not?
[22:23] <lmat> I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit/+bug/135362 and experiencing the bug myself.
[22:23] <nrml1> kernel panic
[22:24] <lmat> "and as genisoimage is just
[22:24] <lmat> a very old version of mkisofs, it suffers from the problem."
[22:24] <lmat> I guess nothing's changed here? :-( In short, I'm trying to create an iso from part of my filesystem, but there are "deep" directories.
[22:25] <ObrienDave> the problen is the rock ridge standard. 255 characters in path max
[22:26] <Jordan_U> lmat: You are not hitting that exact bug, so please explain what you are doing (including exact commands) and what happens (all output), using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com as needed for output longer than one line.
[22:26] <lmat> and as genisoimage is just
[22:26] <lmat> sorry
[22:26] <Jordan_U> nrml1: I asked why you can't access the grub menu. The grub menu comes before any kernel can be loaded and panic.
[22:27] <lmat> http://sprunge.us/fIaO
[22:27] <lmat> To get that, I ran genisoimage -o jmmdrive.iso /mnt/flash/ 2>&1 | head -n 50
[22:27] <nrml1> Jordan_U, I dunno bro, the vmware splash comes on and then the kernel panic, too quick
[22:27] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: here are the results of the script pastebin.com/NhvMgkNg
[22:28] <lmat> Jordan_U: i'm thinking -D is the ticket...
[22:28] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Try holding shift during boot (you'll have to be sure that the VM window has keyboard focus early enough).
[22:29] <Jordan_U> lmat: Seems like it.
[22:29] <nrml1> doesnt help that my desktop is like inception for windows.. I Got a vm of a windows vm of a windows os
[22:29] <Wulf> Hi
[22:29] <ashvin> hello world
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Please pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ && find /mnt/".
[22:30] <nrml1> trying to boot from "Rescue" now.. whatever that is.
[22:30] <Wulf> I'm using getaddrinfo() to resolve a host. There are two IPs for it for dns round robin load balancing. On my debian system this works, on my ubuntu-14.04 system the result is always ordered. Is there any option I missed?
[22:31] <ponyofdeath> hi, anyone know if there is a way to mark a sas card's drive to light us as failed on the chassis? is there some kind of command that would tell the sas controller to illuminate the failed led?
[22:32] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/zF78NKkE
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Please pastebin the contents of /mnt/grub/grub.cfg (you can do so by running "pastebinit /mnt/grub/grub.cfg" ).
[22:34] <ramen69> ponyofdeath: ive never done that but you can use smartmontools to email you the output when a disc fails
[22:35] <ponyofdeath> ramen69: yeah i know about that, just need to be able to tell which drive from the outside of the server :)
[22:38] <gndlp> ramen69: hey ramen do you know how to enable SMART support on a device with smartctl?
[22:38] <gndlp> ramen69: on all devices i mean
[22:39] <bekks> gndlp: Either the drive supports SMART or it doesnt. You cannot enable/disable it.
[22:39] <ramen69> ^
[22:39] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: "unable to read from: grub.cfg"
[22:40] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: the file exists but appears to be blank when I navigate to it
[22:40] <huig> udev rules are in /etc/udev/rules.d or in /lib/udev/rules.d? from what i reading is seems that they have to be in /etc/udev/rules.d but i don't find any file with rules
[22:40] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Well, whatever is preventing linux from reading the grub.cfg right now is probably the same thing preventing grub from reading it at boot.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg". You may have filesystem corruption, which an fsck might fix.
[22:41] <ramen69> ponyofdeath: aite, i seen a blogpost some guy lit up his hdd led doing some haxy method a while ago but im real sorry i forgot where i saw it :(
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Though, as a simple test, please pastebin the exact output of "sudo cat /mnt/grub/grub.cfg".
[22:42] <gndlp> bekks: Well if the drive supports it and you install smartmontools by default it monitors nothing until you trigger it with the -s flag but I need to deploy it to some file servers and I dont want to have to enable it on every drive on every machine
[22:42] <ponyofdeath> ramen69: thanks
[22:43] <bekks> gndlp: Run it once fpr every drive.
[22:43] <bekks> gndlp: Thats easily scriptable.
[22:44] <gndlp> bekks: yeah dumb question now that i think about it
[22:45] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: "cat: /mnt/grub/grub.cfg: Input/output error"
[22:45] <nrml1> so I got it to boot
[22:45] <nrml1> lemme check what else he did and didnt mention
[22:46] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: That's almost certainly either hardware failure or filesystem corruption (which may have been caused by hardware failure).
[22:46] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: I hope that you have all of the important data from your encrypted root filesystem backed up.
[22:46] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: output of dmsg - pastebin.com/Yg3SHdzH
[22:47] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: it is a brand new installation
[22:48] <nrml1> anyone know off-hand what the latest kernel is for 10.04?
[22:48] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: 13.10 was giving me problems in regards to my graphics card, and after upgrading to 14.04 grub ceased to work after the first restart
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: I need to leave now, but have someone walk you through checking the drive's S.M.A.R.T. status. Iff it shows that the drive is not failing, then have someone walk you through running fsck on /dev/sda1. The fsck might end up fixing the filesystem by deleting /boot/grub/grub.cfg, in which case you'll need to recreate it. But it's also possible that running fsck alone will fix everything and you will be able to ...
[22:50] <Jordan_U> ... boot again.
[22:50] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: okay, thanks
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: You're welcome. Good luck.
[22:51] <k1l> !info linux-image-generic lucid
[22:52] <nrml1> yeah thats what broke it
[22:52] <nrml1> he's trying to boot that one and it kernel panics
[22:52] <nrml1> I just booted into the previous one
[22:54] <guri> ola...
[22:55] <Guest21477> How do I mount an encrypted install?
[22:55] <blackflow> Guest21477: luks?
[22:56] <guri> algum brasileiro
[22:56] <nrml1> would a sudo update-grub do the trick?
[22:56] <k1l> !br | guri
[22:56] <Guest21477>  blackflow: yes
[22:57] <blackflow> Guest21477: use cryptsetup with luksOpen command to create a block device, then you mount that block device
[22:57] <OerHeks> Guest21477, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[22:58] <guri>  /join #lforce
[23:00] <guri>  /join #lforce
[23:02] <Guest21477> blackflow: it says that it's already mapped or mounted?
[23:02] <blackflow> Guest21477: then mount it, the block device is /dev/mapper/<something>
[23:04] <Guest21477> blackflow: ah, I see.
[23:07] <Guest21477> blackflow:  mount: unknown file system type 'LVM2_member'
[23:07] <blackflow> Guest21477: it's lvm on luks, so you need to activate lvm then
[23:10] <Guest21477> blackflow:  how does one go about that?
[23:11] <blackflow> Guest21477: by using vgchange command to -a(ctivate) the volume group. see vgchange man. and if you don't know the name of the volume group, vgscan would scan your physical volumes and name them
[23:16] <r0x> why archlinux is so popular here?
[23:16] <blackflow> where?
[23:16] <r0x> freenode
[23:17] <Guest21477> Probably because it's a much more vanilla version of Linux that's very adaptable and lightweight?
[23:17] <teward> !offtopic | r0x
[23:19] <Felishia> can you recommend me a simple lightweight text reader, gui based...
[23:19] <EriC^^> Felishia: leafpad is pretty lightweight
[23:20] <Felishia> it's a file that can be 600000 characters long
[23:20] <Felishia> per line
[23:20] <Felishia> I'd use nano, but I don't know how to copy and paste a line from one file to another
[23:23] <Guest21477> Just right click and hit "copy" in the console after making the selection Felishia?
[23:24] <Felishia> doesn't work, I get just some characters and a $ symbol at the end
[23:24] <Felishia> and ctrl+k (and I don't even know how I'm supposed to paste that) don't work between nano instances
[23:24] <r0x> Do you know if exist a real-time version of ubuntu?
[23:25] <teward> r0x: 'real time' version?
[23:25] <EriC^^> Felishia: ctrl+shift+v to paste
[23:25] <Guest21477> Ah, perhaps ALT-6 to copy and CTRL-U to paste?
[23:25] <daveomcd> when im in a folder does * represent the entire contents of the folder im in? or is there a case where it means everything on the drive?
[23:26] <r0x> teward: yes
[23:26] <r0x> rtos
[23:26] <Felishia> EriC^^, will it work across nano instances?
[23:26] <EriC^^> Felishia: yeah
[23:26] <Felishia> :o
[23:27] <OerHeks> daveomcd, folder, when you use /* then you use whole root folder, ~/* whole home folder
[23:28] <OerHeks> just the * is in current folder.
[23:28] <Broadway26> Spooky, you here?
[23:29] <daveomcd> OerHeks, thanks!
[23:35] <Guest17456> bob
[23:35] <Guest17456> bob
[23:37] <Guest17456> was looking for a linux IM client for facebook, cant find one pidgin doesnt work
[23:38] <hkrrsx> Guest17456: Pidgin and Facebook instant messaging work fine for me ....
[23:38] <hkrrsx> http://www.ehow.com/how_8149016_facebook-pidgin.html
[23:38] <Guest17456> really, interesting
[23:38] <hkrrsx> Just logged in to double check
[23:39] <Guest17456> whats the resource set at?
[23:39] <Guest17456> mine is blank
[23:39] <hkrrsx> You could probably leave it blank
[23:40] <hkrrsx> Or set it to "Facebook"
[23:40] <Guest17456> it wants to connect through msn
[23:40] <Guest17456> rather then facebook thats the problem I have
[23:40] <hkrrsx> Change the connection type from MSN to XMPP
[23:40] <Guest17456> and since msn and facebook parted ways thats not happening
[23:41] <Guest17456> ok let me DO that
[23:41] <Guest17456> its greyed out wont let me modify
[23:42] <hkrrsx> Disable the account, first
[23:42] <hkrrsx> Then modify
[23:42] <Guest17456> proticol is on xmpp anyway
[23:42] <hkrrsx> You can't modify an active account
[23:42] <hkrrsx> active = enabled
[23:42] <Guest17456> username is email adress yes?
[23:43] <hkrrsx> Username is the first part of your email address
[23:43] <hkrrsx> Everything before the @ symbol
[23:43] <hkrrsx> username@facebook.com .... leave off the @facebook.com part and that's your username
[23:43] <Guest17456> ok yes, thats correct thank you
[23:55] <worldweirdthree> hello
[23:55] <worldweirdthree> still trying out some stuff