[07:51] <Odd_Bloke> Reading backlog, I really feel I should note that I see more Hash sum mismatches from Ubuntu mirrors than I do any sort of problem with PyPI. :p
[08:32] <ndonegan> jetole: Using something like https://gist.github.com/smoser/1278651 on local image build services.
[08:35] <ndonegan> Have edited it slightly so it can read in the userdata it serves from a local file, but that's about it.
[13:23] <smoser> ndonegan, patches are welcome to that :)
[13:26] <ndonegan> smoser: Will see if I can put what I've done up as a proper project on github.
[13:27] <ndonegan> It's even setup to install cleanly onto a Centos 6 box and just work.
[13:27] <ndonegan> (as rpm that is)
[13:29] <smoser> ndonegan, nice. for cloud-init 2 , i want to have sort of a set of datasource mimickers that we can easily test against.
[13:31] <ndonegan> We've purposely disabled all data-sources except for EC2, and None which is just setup to report if EC2 fails.
[13:34] <smoser> ndonegan, nice.
[13:34] <smoser> you shouldnt have to disalbe other servcies.
[13:35] <smoser> other sources
[13:36] <ndonegan> We have a security team who'd prefer it to be strictly defined where the data is coming from ;)
[13:36] <ndonegan> And we had some interesting issues with Config Drive.
[13:36] <ndonegan> (Although some of that was due to faulty deployment)
[13:50] <smoser> that makes sense.
[13:50] <smoser> so going forward, i'd like for nocloud to fit your bill
[13:50] <smoser> would there be somethign we could do that would make it work better for you ?
[16:00] <smoser> harmw, i just /join'ed #cirros
[16:36] <harmw> no shit
[18:25] <jetole> ndonegan: that's cool
[19:06] <harlowja> alright https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170242/ seems useful; is that ok to just clone over smoser  or do i need to do something else (license wise?)
[19:07] <smoser> we have to ge tlicense header set right
[19:07] <harlowja> k
[19:08] <harlowja> should i just set it to the apache one?
[19:09] <harlowja> or do we need to contact 'juerg.haefliger@hp.com' (the other editor i think of that file)
[19:09] <smoser> no we dont.
[19:09] <smoser> well, i dont :)
[19:10] <smoser> because i'm acting as canonical. and juerg signed CLA, so canonical has right to do that.
[19:10] <smoser> hold on
[19:11] <harlowja> k
[19:11] <harlowja> holding horses
[19:28] <smoser> harlowja, https://review.openstack.org/170249
[19:29] <smoser> take that one, then change header to match
[19:29] <harlowja> k
[19:30] <harlowja> done
[19:35] <harlowja> alright, let's see; what else should we take over
[19:35] <harlowja> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170252/ (the yaml stuff)
[19:35] <harlowja> and maybe the templating stuff
[19:36] <harlowja> those seem like generally useful
[19:39] <smoser> so .. wrt pulling stuff over. 
[19:40] <smoser> i think largely lets wait a bit.
[19:40] <smoser> 2 things i am afraid of from just pulling stuff without tihnking
[19:40] <smoser> a.) LOG verbosity
[19:41] <smoser> b.) string translation looseness
[19:41] <smoser> string.decode() + translation.encode() + looseness
[19:42] <harlowja> k
[19:43] <harlowja> don't fear josh is here!
[19:43] <harlowja> lol
[19:45] <harlowja> ok, https://review.openstack.org/170257 (template stuff) and safeyaml and url helping
[19:45] <harlowja> all i move over
[19:45] <harlowja> all seem generally like we'll need them anyway...
[19:46]  * harlowja killed cheetah though
[19:46] <harlowja> sorry cheetah
[19:53] <smoser> poor cheetah
[19:53] <harlowja> not many tears are shed i think
[19:53] <harlowja> ha
[19:54] <smoser> what do you think about ditching requests.
[19:54] <harlowja> for?
[19:54] <smoser> it generally doesn't seem useful. urllib2 or urllib3 maybe ?
[19:54] <smoser> we went to requests for https sanity.
[19:54] <harlowja> i had urllib2
[19:54] <harlowja> urllib3 maybe
[19:54] <smoser> but iknow that urllib3 does the right thing in pytho3n
[19:54] <harlowja> *hate urllib2
[19:55] <smoser> i dont knwo tha trequests really buys us antyhign.
[19:55] <harlowja> sure
[19:55] <harlowja> urllib3 powers requests though; so idk
[19:55] <smoser> right
[19:55] <harlowja> looks like we could jsut use it though
[19:57] <harlowja> i guess i'd be ok with it, urllib3 seems fine
[19:57] <harlowja> nothing to crazy like urllib2, lol
[19:57] <smoser> look at https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init
[19:57] <smoser> why does that say "http://openstack.org" ?
[19:57] <harlowja> :-/
[19:57] <harlowja> unsure
[19:57] <harlowja> my guess infra folks put that there?
[19:57] <smoser> i really want to be careful about dependencies.
[19:58] <harlowja> sure
[19:58] <harlowja> do u want to jump on #openstack-infra and ask why? thats there
[19:58] <smoser> sure
[19:58] <harlowja> "Cross-platform instance initialization http://openstack.org" -> "Cross-platform instance initialization"...
[19:59] <harlowja> https://github.com/stackforge/anvil also has that; and a few others
[19:59] <harlowja> so i guess its just a common template or something
[19:59] <harlowja> although weird
[20:04] <harlowja> smoser the mordered using it was a joke, apparently he was complaining about it recently...
[20:05] <harlowja> smoser http://paste.ubuntu.com/10726145/
[20:05] <harlowja> blah blah, lol
[20:06] <harlowja> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165914/ ...
[20:06] <harlowja> stupid stuff, lol
[20:06] <smoser> :)
[20:07] <harlowja> hehe, let's see here
[20:08] <harlowja> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10726170/ ...
[20:09] <harlowja> smoser ^
[20:09] <harlowja> more fun fun
[20:09] <harlowja> lol
[20:09] <harlowja> i'm pretty sure its because hp cloud is using 0.6.3 (which isn't fully functional i think with newer openstacks)
[20:10] <harlowja> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2015-03-19.log 
[20:10] <harlowja> search '2015-03-19T17:14:19'
[20:10] <harlowja> and read from there, ha
[20:10] <harlowja> then i don't need to paste 
[20:10] <harlowja> lol
[20:11] <smoser> odd. 
[20:11] <harlowja> i'm not sure what they made instead :-/
[20:11] <harlowja> let's see what he says, ha
[20:12] <smoser> i dont know why you'd mount the config drive and leave it mounted. that doesnt seem to make much senes. 
[20:12] <harlowja> ya, u got me :-/
[20:23] <harlowja> bb food; smoser  u got it covered :-P
[20:23] <harlowja> will read in a little
[20:23] <harlowja> fun fun
[20:23] <harlowja> lol
[20:27] <smoser> thanks. 
[20:27] <smoser> :)
[20:27] <smoser> i didn't eed such discussion.
[20:27] <smoser> i want to make cloud-init not suck for sure.
[22:13] <harlowja> smoser agreed; but some of these statements from all those people are all conflated
[22:14] <harlowja> and putting blame in the wrong place....
[22:14] <harlowja> packaging sucks, its all your fault
[22:14] <harlowja> i packaged my images in weird ways, its all your fault...
[22:14] <harlowja> blah blah