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justCarakas | shouldn't there be a ubuntu app aswel for https://ninjablocks.com/#/ ? | 07:20 |
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kalikiana | t1mp: zsombi so which one of you will take https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/orientationManual/+merge/254753 | 11:20 |
zsombi | kalikiana: me | 11:21 |
kalikiana | thanks! | 11:21 |
davidcalle | stephwilson, hello, just a quick irc bug report : images on https://design.ubuntu.com/apps/getting-started/ui-model are pulled from https://design.canonicalwebteam.com, which makes them invisible for most people | 11:22 |
zsombi | kalikiana: don't forget to update teh card :) | 11:22 |
stephwilson | davidcalle: Ah I see! I will get someone from the web team to have a look, think it might have to do with the http tag. Thanks for spotting it | 11:24 |
davidcalle | stephwilson, np | 11:24 |
kalikiana | zsombi: well, it's not done before it's reviewed | 11:29 |
zsombi | kalikiana: well, it's in Needs review, right? so update the card :) | 11:29 |
stephwilson | davidcalle: Ah I saw the problem, can you check if it is ok now? | 11:30 |
davidcalle | stephwilson, yep, fixed! | 11:31 |
stephwilson | Horray! | 11:33 |
nik90 | ogra_: hey, in your g+ app, you added a progress bar just below the header. Can you link me to that code? I want to create a custom progress bar. | 11:43 |
kunal | charles, hi | 11:49 |
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ogra_ | nik90, i stole it from webbrowser-app ... https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/junk/google-plus-app | 11:57 |
ogra_ | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/junk/google-plus-app/view/head:/qml/ThinProgressBar.qml ... called by line 7 and 97-104 in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/junk/google-plus-app/view/head:/qml/Main.qml | 11:59 |
nik90 | ogra_: yeah I found it, thnx | 12:00 |
nik90 | ogra_: I wanted to created a custom progress bar to hide the percentage value shown. But turns out there is already a property called showProgressPercentage that does this...but it isnt document :/ | 12:01 |
ogra_ | oh, yeah | 12:01 |
popey | t1mp: do you know if we have a toolkit bug tracking the fact that a focussed field (in a big list of fields) is offscreen/obscured by osk? | 12:19 |
dpm | hey ahayzen, how did the membership meeting go? | 12:19 |
popey | dpm: 22:00 UTC tonight | 12:19 |
dpm | ah, cool, better than a meeting on April 1st ;) | 12:20 |
popey | heh | 12:20 |
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popey | pmcgowan: do you know if we plan to address https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1358294 soon? | 12:28 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1358294 in click (Ubuntu) "App .config not removed when app uninstalled" [High,In progress] | 12:28 |
popey | ah, there's a merge, missed that. | 12:28 |
pmcgowan | popey, wow thats a controversial bug | 12:35 |
mihir | popey: ping !! | 12:35 |
pmcgowan | was unaware of it | 12:35 |
popey | pmcgowan: yeah :S | 12:35 |
popey | mihir: heya! | 12:35 |
mihir | popey: could you confirm this ,it works fine on my side , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1438946 | 12:35 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1438946 in Ubuntu Calendar App "All day events are stored to previous day" [Undecided,New] | 12:35 |
popey | mihir: bet I know what this is. | 12:36 |
popey | mihir: it's the fact that the all day event indication in the app points to the middle of the screen - we have a bug for that already | 12:37 |
popey | mihir: so people think it was scheduled on wednesday because that's in the middle of the screen | 12:37 |
* popey comments on it | 12:38 | |
mihir | popey: so the thing is it stores details on correct time zone right ? | 12:38 |
popey | mihir: the data is stored correctly is my theory | 12:38 |
popey | mihir: but the popup points to the middle of the screen, which is where wednesday is | 12:38 |
mihir | okay gotcha | 12:39 |
* popey marks incomplete | 12:39 | |
mihir | popey: thanks :) | 12:39 |
popey | np | 12:39 |
popey | mihir: unless it's related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1437305 | 12:40 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1437305 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "Wrong date day icon display and one day before events day in month view" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:40 |
mihir | popey: we don't have functionality of imporing multiple calendar right? | 12:40 |
popey | not yet | 12:40 |
mihir | popey: should I mark it Wishlist? | 12:41 |
popey | yes | 12:41 |
popey | thanks | 12:41 |
popey | pmcgowan: looks like mvo intended to land it, but it didn't yet. | 12:42 |
t1mp | popey: I don't know | 12:44 |
t1mp | zsombi: any idea? | 12:44 |
t1mp | <popey> t1mp: do you know if we have a toolkit bug tracking the fact that a focussed field (in a big list of fields) is offscreen/obscured by osk? | 12:44 |
t1mp | zsombi: ^ | 12:44 |
zsombi | t1mp: ? | 12:45 |
pmcgowan | popey, yeah thats not ready to land | 12:45 |
zsombi | t1mp: I think we have, and the fix is not trivial | 12:46 |
zsombi | t1mp: I think OrientationHelper has support for that, but nothing else... | 12:46 |
popey | DanChapman: ^ | 12:48 |
DanChapman | bah so no autofocusing textfields anytime soon then | 12:48 |
popey | zsombi: t1mp it hurts us with apps like dekko which have a manual settings screen which is a big list of fields to fill in | 12:48 |
popey | so you have to manually pull the screen around to get to the next one | 12:48 |
zsombi | popey: I do get that, but in order to fix this it is not enough that toolkit provides something, apps must at some extent rewrite teir views | 12:49 |
zsombi | popey: but we can prioritize and work on it, but it may need a huge change all over | 12:51 |
t1mp | zsombi: do we have documentation that describes what needs to be done to make it work? | 12:51 |
zsombi | t1mp: I don't think so, because noone had enough time to investigate that. All we agreed is that pages must be implemented with a scrollable view, even if they don't need to scroll, otherwise OSK cannot push teh content upwards | 12:54 |
zsombi | t1mp: in any other case, offsetting the content may be painful, and may cause UI hickups, especially if someone uses Flow or whatever | 12:55 |
zsombi | t1mp: and OSK cannot detect anything, it's the UI which is showing teh content can do the job | 12:56 |
zsombi | t1mp: and therefore this would work only if people use a given component as content holder, like Page, or whatever | 12:56 |
t1mp | zsombi: and the Page must have a flickable inside it? | 12:57 |
zsombi | t1mp: yes | 12:57 |
t1mp | zsombi: I think most apps are using Pages | 12:57 |
t1mp | but it doesn't have a flickable in it by default | 12:57 |
zsombi | t1mp: or moreprecisely a component which connects to OSK | 12:58 |
zsombi | t1mp: and it is flickable | 12:58 |
zsombi | t1mp: however, the scrolling depends on the focus component, and it must be a text input... | 12:59 |
t1mp | it is not just textfields right? basically we want any component that gets focus to automatically go into the view | 12:59 |
zsombi | t1mp: in a sense yes, if we think of component navigation, yes, any component should stay in the view, but text inputs should be pulled upwards when OSK appears, and that's a different use case | 13:00 |
t1mp | zsombi: we should write down the steps needed to get this done so we can include that in the next sprint planning discussion | 13:03 |
zsombi | t1mp: good idea, go for it :) | 13:03 |
zsombi | t1mp: make a card and a gdoc | 13:03 |
zsombi | t1mp: actually we have a bug at least for it as well, so you can even link to it | 13:04 |
t1mp | which bug is it? | 13:04 |
zsombi | t1mp: dunno by heard, it is about the OSK and text input | 13:06 |
* zsombi goes offline | 13:06 | |
t1mp | popey: we have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1200371 | 13:09 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1200371 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "[SDK] auto-scroll input fields when OSK visibility changes" [High,Confirmed] | 13:09 |
t1mp | zsombi: I happroved https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/01-multiple-theme-engines/+merge/251942 | 13:09 |
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mhall119 | Mirv: ping | 14:11 |
dobey | yay, docs page isn't loading because code.jquery.com is apparently borked :-/ | 14:14 |
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mcphail | Will the Ubuntu-SDK get included in the base distribution any time soon? It seems stupid to have it in a PPA, thereby making updates tricky and breaking the repository model. | 15:06 |
ogra_ | no, it is clever to have it in a PPA | 15:07 |
mcphail | ogra_: for update frequency? | 15:07 |
ogra_ | else you have to lock it down at some point and it cant move forward anymore | 15:07 |
ogra_ | you would have to make SRUs for every change ... lots of paperwork, very slow | 15:07 |
ogra_ | a PPA can just keep rolling | 15:08 |
mcphail | ogra_: I'm not sure rolling is such a good thing. A stable platform with stable target (+ next devel target) would seem sensible | 15:09 |
ogra_ | how would you get "next devel target" in ..., how would you get it stabilized for "next ..." | 15:09 |
mcphail | ogra_: there was discussion about frameworks yesterday. I accept the current model wouldn't work well, but if the framework for "next" was finalised further in advance it could become a stable target | 15:10 |
mcphail | ogra_: I know you guys are comfortable with development on the bleeding edge, but for amateurs like me it is quite hard to keep up with the next fresh thing | 15:12 |
mcphail | ogra_: when vivid releases, I'd like to be able to say "I can now get an app ready for release on vivid+1. Here is the SDK. Here are the design guidelines for that release. I'll have it looking good for vivid+1 when vivis+1 is released" | 15:13 |
* mcphail is a bit conservative | 15:14 | |
mcphail | Can anyone point me to an open source repo for an app/game using SDL2 on ubuntu-touch? | 15:34 |
popey | mcphail: sturmflut-work made a simple one I think | 15:34 |
mcphail | popey: thanks | 15:36 |
popey | https://github.com/Sturmflut/sdi-ss12 | 15:36 |
mcphail | popey: don't think that is the right one :) | 15:39 |
popey | yeah | 15:40 |
popey | somewhere round there | 15:40 |
mcphail | aah - I see his ubuntu-touch-sdl-template. Sounds perfect | 15:40 |
popey | thats the one | 15:43 |
mcphail | cmake is beyond me so a template is great | 15:43 |
ogra_ | mcphail, sorrym had to drop off into a meeting ... wrt your last sentence, how would you get the vivid+1 framework into vivid ? | 15:44 |
ogra_ | it doesnt exist by release day | 15:44 |
mcphail | ogra_: yes - that's why I was saying the current model wouldn't fit with my suggestion. I think it would be good to have the stable SDK and design guidelines for the next release in advance. But, as I said, I'm rather conservative | 15:46 |
ogra_ | the prob is that people would use LTS ... for the next two years you couldnt really move forward with the frameworks | 15:47 |
ogra_ | until the next lts | 15:47 |
ogra_ | thats a way to low frequency for the phones | 15:47 |
ogra_ | (which are on a rolling release) | 15:47 |
mcphail | ogra_: I see your point | 15:48 |
ogra_ | the right solution is to simply lift *everything* to rolling releases ;) | 15:48 |
* mcphail hears the Ubuntu devs having a collective myocardial infarction | 15:49 | |
ogra_ | well, that will eventualyl happen :) | 15:50 |
ogra_ | snappy brings us rolling releases | 15:50 |
mcphail | I'll charge the defibrillator | 15:50 |
ogra_ | and snappy is the future of ubuntu | 15:50 |
mcphail | snappy does look very nice | 15:51 |
ogra_ | yep, over time it will become the base for everyhting | 15:51 |
ogra_ | from phone to server | 15:51 |
mcphail | and would let me package things without the ubuntu SDK, which would be nice. I don't understand click and cmake well enough | 15:52 |
ogra_ | i never used the SDK ... and i have plenty of click packages ;) | 15:52 |
* ogra_ does everyhing in vi | 15:52 | |
mcphail | ogra_: yes - I prefer vim and autotools for builds | 15:52 |
mcphail | ogra_: or vim and ant for android | 15:53 |
* ogra_ prefers vim and interpreter languages ... silly compiling ... | 15:53 | |
mcphail | ogra_: it would be great if you could point me to a HOWTO for command-line builds for Ubuntu | 15:54 |
ogra_ | i think there is one in the examples on developer.ubuntu.com | 15:55 |
mcphail | I'm trying to cheat and avoid learning about click. I can't wait for snappy | 15:55 |
ogra_ | snap and click are not to far apart ... | 15:55 |
ogra_ | snap adds just extra stuff on top (like service files and systemd integration) | 15:56 |
mcphail | maybe I can backport what I've learned... | 15:56 |
bzoltan | ogra_: thanks for the promotion dude :) good job | 16:24 |
ogra_ | haha | 16:24 |
nik90 | ogra_: You don't use the SDK.!!!.how dare you :P | 16:27 |
ogra_ | lol | 16:28 |
bzoltan | nik90: specially that ogra_ knows very well my irc highlight settings :D | 16:29 |
ogra_ | nik90, i'm even worse ... i usually create a click package with only a Main.qml file in it ... install that on the phone and do all my development in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/ :) | 16:30 |
nik90 | ogra_: stop talking..you are killing me....Next you might say you do all your development in VIM and admit to never using the super awesome Qtcreator | 16:31 |
nik90 | bzoltan: rofl | 16:31 |
ogra_ | nik90, yeah, havent found a way to get QTCreator working inside a ssh session on the phone yet :P | 16:32 |
nik90 | ogra_: I don't know...I can't live without the autocompletion that qtc offers..its just too good to give up :D | 16:33 |
ogra_ | i cant live without vim shortcuts and macros :) | 16:33 |
nik90 | ha..I guess that's where we hit our blockade :) .. LOTR: YOU SHALL NOT PASS! | 16:35 |
ogra_ | heh | 16:35 |
ogra_ | when i write office docs i always have to delete the ":wq" everywhere in them :) | 16:36 |
mcphail | that's been my biggest problem using the IDE. But I think you can turn on vi keybindings somewhere...? | 16:39 |
ogra_ | probabyl | 16:39 |
mcphail | I was stuck in vim.tiny on the phone yesterday: couldn't work out how to send <Esc> | 16:40 |
ogra_ | ctrl-c | 16:40 |
ogra_ | works the same | 16:41 |
mcphail | yes - someone gave me that tip! | 16:41 |
ogra_ | there is also a vim keyboard profile for the terminal | 16:44 |
ogra_ | i think that adds an esc key | 16:44 |
mcphail | aah - that profile button is neat. I hadn't noticed it | 16:46 |
bzoltan | ogra_: I had the on device development feature in the QtC :) i was explicitly asked to remove it :) | 17:15 |
ogra_ | bzoltan, yeah, so the cool kids can show off with it now :) | 17:16 |
bzoltan | ogra_: if they find it :) | 17:16 |
ogra_ | heh | 17:16 |
bzoltan | ogra_: actually I am more into vi too... and yes I do type :wq even in google docs sometimes | 17:17 |
ogra_ | haha, yeah | 17:17 |
ogra_ | happens to me all the time | 17:17 |
bzoltan | ogra_: actually teaching QtC to do real on device development and to use the tools on the device and edit the code on the device would not be a big deal. but I am afraid that our device is not so hackable by default. | 17:19 |
AlanBell | https://github.com/GNOME/file-roller/pull/1 given that is pull request #1 I am fairly confident that this isn't the way to fix gnome stuff | 17:23 |
AlanBell | ooh, wrong channel | 17:23 |
mihir | popey: if you get time to test small patch , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1438910/+merge/255123 | 18:14 |
popey | mihir: will do | 18:17 |
mihir | popey: thanks :) | 18:18 |
popey | mihir: i dont see the option... | 18:19 |
mihir | of ? | 18:19 |
popey | mihir: http://imgur.com/OPLlBBK | 18:19 |
popey | should I not see monthly/yearly there? | 18:20 |
mihir | popey: scroll down :D | 18:20 |
popey | haha, thats totally not obvious! | 18:20 |
popey | :) | 18:20 |
mihir | i meant scroll the dropdown :| i can make that change if that is required too :d | 18:20 |
mihir | yes i got that too :D | 18:20 |
popey | I _never_ knew that was scrollable | 18:20 |
mihir | or we should show some scroll over there | 18:20 |
popey | we need to make that bgger i think | 18:20 |
popey | *bigger | 18:20 |
popey | as it's a separate screen, not a popover | 18:20 |
mihir | hm okay i'll do that in separate MR | 18:21 |
popey | ok | 18:21 |
popey | thanks mihir | 18:21 |
* popey leaves for the weekend | 18:21 | |
popey | o/ | 18:21 |
mihir | popey: enjoy happy easter :P | 18:28 |
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renato___ | popey, could you test the silo 30, it should fix the bug: #1438662 | 19:15 |
ubot5 | bug 1438662 in syncevolution (Ubuntu RTM) "Calendar sync is not happening" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438662 | 19:15 |
blocage | hello, I want to create a new window belong the main window within nux and draw something inside, someone can help ? | 19:53 |
blocage | I also want to use this new window as dropdown menu :) | 19:54 |
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popey | renato___: will do. | 23:46 |
ahoneybun | 525 downloads popey | 23:49 |
popey | :) | 23:49 |
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