[08:55] <trinode> hey, how would you diagnose an issue wheere shutting down via the gnome menu results in a black screen (and power remaining on) yet issuing the command shutdown -h now from gnome terminal shuts down fine?
[08:56] <darkxst> trinode what ubuntu are you using?
[08:57] <trinode> 15.04 (yesterday's daily)  and gnome 3.16 from the gnome 3 staging repos
[08:58] <darkxst> sounds like systemd is choking, but not heard of any similar bugs
[08:59] <darkxst> if you enable the debug console at boot, you might be able to switch to VT9 to see what is going when it hangs
[09:00] <trinode> ooh, how do I do that? kernel param?
[09:01] <trinode> and is there a way to write it to a file? (the screen goes black (and backlight off) instantly, I can't seem to switch to any other terminal
[09:02] <darkxst> yesm use systemd.debug-shell
[09:03] <darkxst> see /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian
[09:06] <darkxst> and if you can get to VT9 then probably systemctl list-jobs will tell you what is hanging
[09:08] <trinode> I've got me a shell, lets give this a go
[09:09] <trinode> nope, instant black screen of stuck
[09:11] <darkxst> on boot or shutdown?
[09:12] <trinode> shutdown
[09:12] <darkxst> ctl+alt+f9 to get to debug shell
[09:12] <trinode> I can get to the shell when the system is booted
[09:12] <trinode> but the instant I press power off I loose the ability to do anything other than see a black screen
[09:12] <trinode> (can't switch VT or anything)
[09:13] <trinode> I think the system is pretty much powered off without the powering off
[09:13] <trinode> since shutdown -h works
[09:13] <darkxst> probably a stuck grab or somthing, can you ssh into the machine?
[09:13] <trinode> makes me think it's nothing to do with systemd
[09:13] <trinode> more gnome
[09:13] <trinode> or permissions of whatever user gnome runs as or something like tha
[09:13] <trinode> t
[09:14] <trinode> s/gnome/gdm
[09:14] <darkxst> a locked up VT may be nothing to do with gdm
[09:15] <darkxst> can you ssh into it?
[09:15] <trinode> I'll try but I think wireless is gone after leaving gnome
[09:15] <darkxst> connect an ethernet cable ;)
[09:17] <trinode> gnome's shutdown dialog listed a warning saying other users were connected
[09:17] <trinode> one of them being my ssh session
[09:18] <trinode> and clicking poweroff disconnected me instantly
[09:19] <darkxst> can you ssh in after it hangs?
[09:20] <darkxst> if its a gnome bug, pretty much 100% chance you will be able too
[09:20] <darkxst> given your session was kicked though, sounds like its hanging quite late in the shutdown
[09:21] <trinode> is there a permission / group you have to be in to power a system down?
[09:21] <mgedmin> maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole could be useful to see what's happening during shutdown, if you've got an ethernet cable and another PC in the same subnet?
[09:31] <trinode> switching to lightdm fixed it
[09:31] <trinode> I actually was trying to test with unity so did apt-get install unity
[09:32] <trinode> it switched me to lightdm instead of gdm
[09:32] <trinode> but unity wasn't present as an option so I started gnome
[09:32] <trinode> and it shutdown fine
[09:36] <mgedmin> bisection idea: instead of shutting down from the gnome session try to log out and then shut down from gdm?
[09:40] <trinode> from gdm shutdown is instant black screen again
[09:41] <trinode> (I say instant because in lightdm and if using gdm but issuing shutdown -r now from the command line we see the gnome foot logo for a second then some of the boot / shutdown progress text
[11:14] <zee> hello
[13:08] <LinDol> hi all :)
[22:30] <allenskd_> hey guys if someone could confirm, does nautilus-dropbox package nolonger depends on dropbox in 15.04? just tried to install it and nautilus-dropbox wants to remove dropbox :|
[22:56] <Dumle29> Hey there. If I want to add a startup application through gnome tweak tools, the + doesn't work. Is this a known bug?
[22:56] <Dumle29> Only way I've found to do it so far is making a .desktop file myself
[22:58] <Jordan_U> Dumle29: I would argue that you should just be asking how to make onedrive-d start automatically when you log in. It provides more background for your end goal, and also doesn't limit answers to those relating to gnome-tweak-tool :)
[22:59] <Dumle29> Jordan_U: Ah true :P But I'm fairly certain i got that working :) Just figured I would go ask here to get the problem solved now that you spent so much time on it over in #ubuntu :)
[22:59] <Dumle29> I think the .desktop file I made will work (haven't restarted yet)