[02:22] <JHOSMAN> hello mhall119 ! =)
[12:35] <mihir> popey: ping
[14:59]  * slangasek waves
[15:00] <sil2100> o/
[15:00] <barry> \o
[15:02] <caribou> o/
[15:02] <robru> o/
[15:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr  2 15:02:17 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:02]  * stgraber waves
[15:02] <stgraber> (be on mumble in a minute)
[15:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:03] <cyphermox> o/
[15:03] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity mvo sil2100 robru cyphermox)
[15:03] <slangasek> robru slangasek mvo doko jodh sil2100 bdmurray caribou barry cyphermox stgraber infinity
[15:03] <robru> slangasek: not ready, please come back to me ;-)
[15:03] <slangasek> hmph :)
[15:03] <slangasek> ok one second
[15:05] <slangasek>  * was on vacation last week; spent the first couple of days this week playing email catch-up
[15:05] <slangasek>  * snappy: worked on getting initial arm64 builds done now that the IS firewalls have been sorted
[15:05] <slangasek>  * phone: created a new channel flavor, "ubuntu-developer", with a different custom tarball by request of PES - all the things that are being open sourced from the BQ custom, but with extra bits not necessarily targeted to end users
[15:05] <slangasek>  * various internal contract discussions
[15:05] <slangasek>  * interviewing ongoing for the open java role
[15:05] <slangasek> (done)
[15:05] <slangasek> and mvo is off today
[15:05] <slangasek> robru: are you ready yet? ;)
[15:05] <robru> slangasek: one sec
[15:06] <robru> * CI Train:
[15:06] <robru>   - fixed bug with certain projects that contain spaces in bzr tags
[15:06] <robru>   - fixed some bugs in the handling & reporting of "dirty" silos
[15:06] <robru>   - record revids instead of revnos so that we can notice when people revise their bzr history
[15:06] <robru>   - experimented with pushing active IRC notifications to #ubuntu-ci-eng instead of the current system of polling
[15:06] <robru>   - fixed a race condition in the dirty silo handling
[15:06] <robru>   - fixed a bug allowing silos in an inconsistent state to be cleaned more reliably
[15:06] <robru>   - fixed a bug where watch_phase sometimes gets tripped up with old versions of source-only uploads in the silo PPA
[15:06] <robru> * Phablet Tools:
[15:06] <robru>   - Fixed a bug where citrain tool was incorrectly interpreting zero-padded numbers as octal numbers and then installing the wrong silo on people's devices
[15:06] <robru> * CI Engine:
[15:06] <robru>   - some iteration on spreadsheet replacement
[15:07] <slangasek> spaces are legal in bzr tags?
[15:07] <slangasek> robru: anything else, or (done)?
[15:07] <robru> slangasek: who knew!
[15:07] <robru> (done)
[15:07] <slangasek> thanks
[15:07] <slangasek> doko:
[15:07] <doko> - fix issues in python2.7
[15:07] <doko> - more GCC 5 work
[15:07] <doko> - sent Go summary for vivid
[15:07] <doko> - fixing build failures, MIR work, ...
[15:07] <doko> - interview for the openjdk role
[15:08] <slangasek> python2.7, people still use that? ;)  everyone should be using python3 by now, surely ;)
[15:08] <doko> well, there's a small package called openstack
[15:08] <slangasek> old technology, clearly
[15:08] <doko> and python2.7 crept in to the images again, have to check why
[15:08] <slangasek> doko: thanks for the go summary.  Do you know who was going to be proposing the FFe for golang?
[15:08] <doko> (done)
[15:09] <doko> slangasek, I know, but I don't know if I should share publically ;)
[15:09] <slangasek> ok
[15:09] <jodh> * snappy:
[15:09] <jodh>   - Lots of work on the upgrader.
[15:09] <jodh>     - Implemented format command.
[15:09] <jodh>     - Ongoing work to update tests.
[15:09] <jodh>   - MP to log commands that change system state:
[15:09] <jodh>     https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/snappy/log-commands-that-change-system-state/+merge/254405
[15:09] <jodh>   - MP to quieten down logging for non-error scenarios:
[15:09] <jodh>     https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/snappy/log-filename+lineno-onlyh-for-loglevel-error-and-above/+merge/254429
[15:09] <jodh>   - MPs to fix system unit generation:
[15:09] <jodh>     - https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/snappy/systemd-unit-fixes/+merge/254434
[15:09] <jodh>     - https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/snappy/service-files-should-not-be-executable/+merge/254873
[15:09] <jodh>   - Bug 1412737:
[15:09] <jodh>     - Lots of testing.
[15:09] <jodh>     - Feature Now landed.
[15:09] <jodh>   - Investigating bug 1438889.
[15:09] <jodh> J
[15:10] <sil2100> Oh, me now?
[15:10] <slangasek> yes
[15:10] <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails
[15:10] <sil2100> - Small visual and performance tweaks to the Issue Tracker
[15:10] <sil2100> - Help in building and allocating an oxide-qt silo
[15:10] <sil2100> - RTM - vivid archive delta: * Finishing base scripts, added tests * Generating delta, setting up periodic scripts * Human-analyzing the delta, removing false-positives * Poking developers missing their RTM fixes in vivid
[15:10] <sil2100> - RTM status meeting and discussions
[15:10] <sil2100> - CI Train spreadsheet issues * Spreadsheet went crazy, multiple attempts to calm it down - failure (wasted time) * Workaround solution: migrating to a new spreadsheet (geh) * Re-targetting tools to the new spreadsheet * Might try helping with the spreadsheet replacement next week
[15:10] <sil2100> - Preparations for the OTA-3 next week
[15:10] <sil2100> Wow, ok, my shell doesn't like multi space-starting lines
[15:10] <sil2100> (done)
[15:10] <slangasek> bdmurray:
[15:11] <bdmurray> fixed Traceback with daisy/retracer.py
[15:11] <bdmurray> rewrote rate of crashes counter to take into account CountersForProposed
[15:11] <bdmurray> update daisy/submit.py to write to same type of counter used by rate of crashes checker (r624)
[15:11] <bdmurray> exposed exclude_proposed in error tracker API
[15:11] <bdmurray> submitted merge-proposal for phased-updater change to use exclude_proposed
[15:11] <bdmurray> release of verified SRUs for testing the phased-updater
[15:11] <bdmurray> investigation into difference in phased-updater crash rates for compiz, gvfs
[15:11] <bdmurray> discovered saved crashes on retracers are missing CoreDumps
[15:11] <bdmurray> modified daisy/retracer.py to really save crash files with the CoreDump
[15:11] <bdmurray> queried cassandra database for quantity of crashes about click packages
[15:11] <bdmurray> irc discussion with pmcgowan regarding error tracker usage
[15:11] <bdmurray> investigation into bug 1316763 not taking effect / testing
[15:11] <bdmurray> looked into occurrence count differences for pmcgowan
[15:11] <bdmurray> reported linux bug LP: #1436940 regarding missing wireless device driver
[15:11] <bdmurray> submitted unattended-upgrades apport package hook to grab correct log file
[15:11] <bdmurray> investigation into ubuntu-release-upgrader autopackage test failure regression
[15:11] <bdmurray> pinged someone about https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/goget-ubuntu-touch/product-uuid/+merge/229315
[15:12] <xnox> gosh, blast from the past.
[15:12] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:12] <xnox> BTW. gaughen: ogasawara_: bdmurray: slangasek: fancy a dinner next week in porland? I'll be over =)
[15:12] <caribou> Bugfix:
[15:12] <caribou>  - Investigating rsyslog memory leak on Trusty : data analysis ongoing
[15:13] <caribou> - Preparation for Engineering Core sprint
[15:13] <caribou> - Endless openafs dkms fix backport
[15:13] <caribou> Sprinted with CTS engineering team all of last week
[15:13] <caribou> (done)
[15:13] <gaughen> xnox, I could do Tuesday or Thursday evening.
[15:13] <barry> snappy: working on snappy python blog post.  final proof read and post today
[15:13] <barry> debuntu: LP: #1290847
[15:13] <barry> si: updated toxify branch for server mp.  began looking into adding si 3.0 support (config.d directory).
[15:13] <barry> other: pycon prep work.
[15:13] <barry> next week: montreal
[15:13] <barry> --done--
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * review/testing silo 30 for NM fixes
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * manual upload of NM 0.9.10.0-0ubuntu13
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * More work on casper CD ejection (input not received)
[15:14] <xnox> gaughen: cool. I guess i should send out an email or something about that.
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * Spent some time looking into route metrics issue (bug 1436330)
[15:14] <cyphermox>    - patch will need a fair amount of porting to work, or rewriting
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * Debugging nm-applet bug 1418260
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * oem-config user removal/more fixes for systemd (bug 1436937)
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * grub2 patch review for ARP packets, compared patch with upstream fixes
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * Add patch to nm-applet to hide virtual devices (lxc bridges, etc.)
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * Connectivity meeting, discussions on current conn. issues on phone
[15:14] <cyphermox>  * Contacting design for ubiquity slideshow updates
[15:14] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:15] <stgraber>  - LXC/LXD
[15:15] <stgraber>    - Archive upload of LXD 0.5
[15:15] <stgraber>    - Work on fixing Jenkins CI (corrupted FS, had to move a few TB around and repair the fs)
[15:15] <stgraber>    - Investigation in current test failures for lxc and lxcfs, fixes in progress
[15:15] <stgraber>    - Various bugfixes and feature work on LXC and LXD
[15:15] <stgraber>    - Code reviews, bug triaging, other admin paperwork
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Other
[15:15] <stgraber>    - Couple of days working on a security bug.
[15:15] <stgraber> (done)
[15:15] <infinity> - Helped the kernel team with cherrypicks for 2015 Thinkpads
[15:15] <infinity> - Babysat firewall issues for arm64 snappy builds
[15:15] <infinity> - Lots and lots of queue reviews
[15:15] <infinity> - General AA and SRU bits
[15:15] <infinity> - Investigated LP: #1434579 -- Still needs fixing
[15:15] <infinity> - Shaved 30 seconds off ftpmaster's publisher
[15:15] <infinity> - Finished two transitions to remove old versions of gcrypt and gnutls from vivid
[15:15] <stgraber> barry, doko, cyphermox: we should have dinner or something next week then before cyphermox and I fly to Austin
[15:15] <infinity> - Started rebuilding powerpc and ppc64el VMs to double disk space
[15:15] <infinity> (done)
[15:15] <infinity> !!! NOTE: If you're using machines in 1SS today, use screen sessions, lamont is replacing the firewall today, and your network WILL go away, possibly for hours.
[15:15] <xnox> cyphermox: design does not do slideshow updates, as far as I can tell it's a community thing in ubiquity-slideshows project or some such?! E.g. there are screenshots from me there and minor tweaks.
[15:15] <barry> stgraber: for sure!
[15:15] <cyphermox> stgraber: I was going to point that out in AOB :)
[15:15] <xnox> cyphermox: what needs doing?
[15:16] <xnox> infinity: gcrypt \o/
[15:16] <cyphermox> xnox: a vervet, for one.
[15:16] <cyphermox> to replace our shiny triangular unicorn :)
[15:17] <xnox> cyphermox: oh, right. that was usually poking the same person who designed default desktop wallpaper to snitch the vervet graphic. i guess poke the desktop team manager. he coordinated the wallpaper this time around
[15:17] <lamont> infinity: max 2 hours, expecting about 15 min or less
[15:17] <slangasek> cyphermox: did you arrive at that "nm-applet virtual interfaces" question independently, or did this come up in response to the bug I filed yesterday about NM eating my bridges? :)
[15:17] <infinity> lamont: I prefer to prepare for the worst and be pleasantly surprised. :)
[15:18] <cyphermox> slangasek: I had come to it independently when I initially did the NM 0.9.10 work; but it was low in my priority list, but then you pointed it out and someone filed a bug, so ...
[15:18] <infinity> slangasek: The NM virtual interfaces thing was reported by lots of people, in bugs and private grumbling.
[15:18] <lamont> infinity: ack
[15:18] <cyphermox> slangasek: NM shouldn't be eating bridges and this change won't keep it from doing it
[15:18] <slangasek> infinity: ok :)
[15:18] <infinity> (Lots of private grumbling)
[15:19] <cyphermox> it's really just avoiding people clicking on the bridge thingies in nm-applet and breaking the bridge that way
[15:19] <slangasek> any other questions over folks status?
[15:19] <cyphermox> oh
[15:20] <cyphermox> I might need quick review on a ubiquity merge
[15:20] <cyphermox> https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubiquity/oem-config/+merge/255103
[15:20] <cyphermox> ^ the oem-config fixes above
[15:20] <slangasek> who can help with the above?  infinity, stgraber?
[15:20] <infinity> Yes, one of us. :P
[15:21]  * xnox looks
[15:21]  * infinity has it open in a tab now.
[15:21] <infinity> Already not happy about "sleep 5", but need context.  Will poke later. :P
[15:21] <slangasek> :)
[15:21] <cyphermox> sure ;)
[15:21] <slangasek> [TOPIC] sprint planning
[15:22] <slangasek> so I've added a new tab to the core sprint planning spreadsheet for 'Foundations Agenda' - https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/12QAyy4oB6uDzfrPrQqe54QiZzXEyFTbbQOUGvqZLrWo/edit#gid=628679993
[15:22]  * ogra_ alwasy wondered why there is no "thunder round" after a "lightning round"
[15:22] <xnox> cyphermox: looks good, i ponder if we should do that for normal ubiquity as well.... including all the try-ubiquity/only-ubiquity modes.
[15:22] <slangasek> ogra_: the lightning is so far away that by the time the thunder arrives the meeting is over
[15:22] <cyphermox> ogra_: indeed. imaging we're doing lightning in space.
[15:22] <infinity> ogra_: Because we're close enough to the source that both happen together.
[15:22] <bdmurray> ogra_: because its the other way around
[15:22] <ogra_> slangasek, lol
[15:23] <slangasek> those of you who're coming to Austin, please throw in there the list of topics you plan to work on during the week
[15:23] <slangasek> especially anything that you're going to want other people's time on
[15:23] <stgraber> cyphermox: looks ok. Also not fond of the sleep but the alternative (wait loop) probably isn't much prettier. I'm also not that good at systemd units yet, so you unless you're sure about them, you may want pitti to take a look.
[15:24] <sil2100> I'll probably be running around discussing RTM plans for the future
[15:24] <slangasek> sil2100: fine, please add to the spreadsheet :)
[15:25] <slangasek> anything else on the subject of sprint planning?
[15:25] <robru> stgraber: can I get you to merge & deploy this queuebot update? https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/queuebot/new-spreadsheet/+merge/255106
[15:25] <sil2100> robru: I think he already did that
[15:26] <xnox> cyphermox: one thing, in upstart world, that blocking thing achieved was if/when ubiquity crashes on it's face the dm is brought up. Not that useful in oem-config case i guess, as one wouldn't know how to do oem login.
[15:26] <sil2100> robru: I poked him and queuebot is already switched (probably only live)
[15:26] <sil2100> robru: I tried poking and changing everything I could ;)
[15:26] <xnox> cyphermox: and there is no user setted up.
[15:26] <robru> sil2100: ok well this is a branch so the code gets updated properly and doesn't get reverted next time there's a rollout
[15:26]  * bdmurray will brb
[15:26] <stgraber> robru: yeah, I already have a local commit here for that, just haven't pushed it to LP yet
[15:26] <xnox> cyphermox: i wonder if it would be possible to add oem-config.target as wantedby graphical.target and thus block it that way?
[15:26] <doko> slangasek, so I'm not allow to throw things?
[15:26] <robru> stgraber: thanks
[15:26] <doko> allowed even
[15:27] <xnox> cyphermox: and at the end of oem-config, remove that wantedby?
[15:27] <cyphermox> xnox: you kind of still need to make sure oem-config is what runs after reboot from running oem-config-prepare. this worked, at lest
[15:27] <cyphermox> xnox: heh
[15:27] <xnox> cyphermox: yeah, so prepare would add graphical.target.wants/oem-config.taget. and end of oem-config would remove that.
[15:27] <xnox> cyphermox: rather than fiddling with default-targets. Note that this oh...
[15:28] <xnox> cyphermox: this totally breaks oem-config on the server, which doesn't have graphical.target =)
[15:28] <cyphermox> there was one issue with how when we remove oem-config it deletes the files
[15:28] <cyphermox> actually
[15:28] <slangasek> doko: you can throw things, but if you're not at the sprint it may or may not stick ;)  happy to discuss it with you offline
[15:28] <cyphermox> server does do graphical.target too.
[15:28] <xnox> cyphermox: oh, ok.
[15:28] <cyphermox> unexpected, I agree
[15:29] <cyphermox> xnox: let's discuss this later in a better location.
[15:30] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:30] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:30] <cyphermox> drinking in YUL next week?
[15:30] <barry> when do you guys head to austin?
[15:30] <cyphermox> :)
[15:30] <infinity> For those who missed it in the chatter last time, 1SS firewall going away this afternoon, plan accordingly.
[15:30] <caribou> I can think of better places than YUL for drinks
[15:31] <cyphermox> barry: saturday.
[15:31] <barry> cool.  i get in on tuesday night
[15:31] <caribou> but I won't be there, going back to sleep
[15:31] <slangasek> saturday> cyphermox apparently needs an extra day of barbecue
[15:31] <cyphermox> err, wait, I meant sunday
[15:31] <barry> maybe thursday?
[15:31] <cyphermox> works for me
[15:32] <stgraber> thursday works for me
[15:32] <barry> on the calendar!
[15:33] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:33] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Apr  2 15:33:56 2015 UTC.
[15:33] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-04-02-15.02.moin.txt
[15:33] <slangasek> thanks everyone!
[15:34] <barry> thanks!
[15:34] <cyphermox> thanks!
[15:35] <caribou> thanks !
[15:36] <sil2100> o/
[17:08] <wxl> elfy: are we not doing the lubuntu cc check in today?
[17:09] <wxl> pleia2: perhaps you might know?
[17:11] <elfy> hi wxl - yep - we're running a bit late
[17:11] <wxl> elfy: ok just checking :)
[17:12]  * ianorlin understands as well
[17:13] <czajkowski> wxl: ianorlin can we start in 15 mins at the half hour
[17:13] <czajkowski> please
[17:13] <czajkowski> we've had a double booking :)
[17:13] <wxl> czajkowski: np with me
[17:13] <elfy> thanks wxl
[17:13] <czajkowski> thanks
[17:13] <mhall119> thanks wxl
[17:14] <wxl> np np :)
[17:14] <wxl> so 1730
[17:14] <wxl> will make a post about it
[17:29] <wxl> gsilva: yes, the meeting should start soon :)
[17:29] <gsilva> thank you :)
[17:31] <czajkowski> #startmeeting
[17:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr  2 17:31:57 2015 UTC.  The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:32] <mhall119> o/
[17:32] <wxl> hey hey
[17:32] <czajkowski> Aloha and thank you taking the time to join this meeting
[17:32] <ianorlin> o/
[17:32] <czajkowski> #chair mhall119 elfy
[17:32] <meetingology> Current chairs: czajkowski elfy mhall119
[17:32] <czajkowski> #topic lubuntu catch up
[17:32] <czajkowski> so who is here from the Lubuntu team ?
[17:33] <wxl> o/
[17:33] <ianorlin> o/
[17:33] <mhall119> so how is Lubunu 15.04 coming along?
[17:33] <elfy> hi people
[17:33] <gsilva> Hello everyone o/
[17:34] <wxl> it is coming along
[17:34] <wxl> current development is focused on moving to qt
[17:34] <wxl> and that's slated for 15.10, maybe 16.04
[17:34] <wxl> so 15.04 isn't going to have any super cutting edge features
[17:34] <mhall119> that's right, LXDE is moving to qt, is it Qt4 or Qt5?
[17:35] <ianorlin> Qt5
[17:35] <ianorlin> Qt4 isn't suppored in the qt version
[17:35] <wxl> yeah upstream, lxde is pretty much dead in the water
[17:35] <mhall119> so we are already coordinating Qt released into the archives between the Unity8/SDK developers and the Kubuntu developers, it would probably be good for you guys to be in that loop too as new releases are going to start affecting you too
[17:36] <wxl> is there some particular forum/list we should be on for that particular purpose?
[17:36] <mhall119> wxl: I don't personally know, you might email ubuntu-devel and ask
[17:37] <ianorlin> that does make sense
[17:37] <wxl> ok i'll look into that
[17:38] <wxl> btw i'm just following your lead here, guys. if you want me to ramble about everything in the lubuntu world, i can. XD
[17:38] <mhall119> wxl: anything that you think the CC should know, or questions you have for us, or assistance you need from us
[17:38] <elfy> PPC - how's that likely to carry on into the foreseeable future - I know it causes you pain come milestones ...
[17:39] <mhall119> wxl: but you don't have to give us a progress report or anything like that :)
[17:39] <wxl> mhall119: i'll get to generalities after we've exhausted other questions
[17:39] <wxl> elfy: well, we're lts only on ppc, so it's been mostly ok
[17:39] <wxl> elfy: plus i think we've got a more dedicated team of ppc folks, so that helps too
[17:39] <elfy> wxl: so the current vivid image trackers not a worry then
[17:40] <wxl> elfy: totally
[17:40] <wxl> elfy: in fact, it's great that the testers we have are checking a release that they know won't be released for them :)
[17:40] <elfy> so not a worry till 2016 :)
[17:40] <wxl> yeppers
[17:40] <wxl> any other specifics?
[17:40] <elfy> not from me
[17:41] <wxl> ok so then a wee update
[17:41] <elfy> I kind of know where you are vivid wise :)
[17:41] <wxl> 1s phone just rang :/
[17:42] <elfy> :)
[17:45] <wxl> ok
[17:45] <wxl> back
[17:45] <wxl> so
[17:45] <wxl> here's the big update
[17:45] <mhall119> wxl: how is the Lubuntu developer community, is it growing, shrinking, or holding steady?
[17:45] <wxl> gsilva recently became our new head of wiki/docs and he's got a real mind to make some major improvements. super excited about that.
[17:46] <ianorlin> I have seen more people upstream growing in lxqt like every few weeks a new person joins upstream
[17:46] <elfy> that's good
[17:46] <elfy> wxl: ^^
[17:47] <wxl> mhall119: i would say growing. i've even been trying to dip my toes in the water personally, but with all the different repos/bug trackers upstream it's kind of unclear what the process is like. i hope to get some clarity on that soon and make some documentation for people coming from ubuntu.
[17:47] <gsilva> I have some ideas but I don't have enough time nor people enough to deliver them
[17:47] <mhall119> how is the relationship between Lubuntu and upstream lxqt? Is there regular communication and cooperation?
[17:47] <wxl> mhall119: absolutely. our main developer, gilir, is the real bridge there.
[17:47] <ianorlin> I also have reported a few bugs in upstream and got them fixed for lxqt
[17:47] <wxl> ditto
[17:48] <wxl> ianorlin's been a huge help as of late, helping with triage, development, testing (as always), and even covering for me as release manager for the last beta when i was on vacation
[17:48] <wxl> supposedly he's going to get his ubuntu membership sometime soon *AHEM* ;)
[17:48] <elfy> yep I noticed that :)
[17:49] <elfy> oh - and I noticed the membership wiki update with that on too - good luck :)
[17:49] <wxl> silverlion, our comms guy, had to step away from his responsibilities, and we have a new guy (who used to be team leader)
[17:50] <elfy> all change then ;)
[17:50] <wxl> yeah a lot of change
[17:50] <wxl> the good news is that now that silverlion isn't committed to doing press releases and stuff, he's getting things set up to do more screencasts
[17:51] <wxl> so it won't be something that we expect on some sort of scheduled basis, but it will be icing on the cake
[17:51] <wxl> as for my realm (qa/bugs), i'm still working on finally getting a little contest set up to encourage more contribution
[17:51] <wxl> i have the rewards, but need to make the write up
[17:52] <elfy> wxl: good luck with that :)
[17:52] <wxl> yeah, i've been pondering how to fairly gamify it
[17:52] <wxl> …in such a way that encourages new participation
[17:52] <wxl> i'm thinking about giving more weight to new or less frequent contributors
[17:52] <elfy> something I ponder too
[17:52] <wxl> unfortunately the more i think about it, the more complex it gets :)
[17:53] <elfy> yep
[17:53] <wxl> and then i start thinking about how much time i need to spend collecting and analyzing all the data, but oh well
[17:53] <wxl> maybe if i come up with something really good and spend the time making software to support it, then it's something that the rest of the community can use
[17:54] <wxl> ianorlin: since i was on vacation and still haven't totally caught up, can you give us some sense of what the next milestone will look like? do we have some annoying bugs to squash still?
[17:55] <wxl> while he ponders that, i have one more issue, i guess
[17:55] <ianorlin> yeah the lubuntu-software center not installing package out of the box unless you add the gnome-polickykit agent to startup and groups as gui stuff that needs superuser is proabably most important lxde fix
[17:55] <ianorlin> and the one of the volume control settings not opening a mixer is pretty annoying as well
[17:56] <elfy> so - is there anything that the CC can help with?
[17:56] <ianorlin> and there might be one xorg problem effecting i686 that is important as well and the eject media and restart needs fixing for some other flavors as well as us
[17:56] <wxl> i'm not sure the cc can do much about this
[17:56] <wxl> hold on a second and i'll dig up the archives of the discussion
[17:57] <wxl> but tl;dr i'm trying to figure out what to do about our alternate installer
[17:57] <elfy> ianorlin: pretty sure that eject issue is global, I spoke to cyphermox earlier about that
[17:58] <wxl> i guess the lsc issue is the biggest
[17:58] <wxl> will have to investigate that more
[17:58] <wxl> here's the blueprint about how to compress our releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/one-iso-to-rule-them-all
[17:58] <wxl> i'd like to get rid of alternate, but a lightweight installer is sort of a necessary thing for a lightweight distribution
[17:59] <wxl> the problem is we sometimes run into these d-i bugs that no one else has
[17:59] <wxl> so it's hard to get adequate support from them
[17:59] <wxl> i'd like to have some more standardization
[17:59] <ianorlin> even reporting them can be a challenge
[17:59] <wxl> i emailed the server team about potentially making a text-only front end to ubiquity but heard nothing
[17:59] <wxl> indeed
[18:00] <wxl> so this does not require discussion now, but i just want to bring this up if the cc can think of any possible solutions or coordinate with other members of the community to come up with good solutions
[18:00] <wxl> and that's all igot
[18:00]  * ianorlin doesn't have anything anymore either
[18:00] <cyphermox> ianorlin: elfy: yes, the eject issue (plymouth not getting input) is global, it affects all flavors.
[18:01] <wxl> cyphermox: ianorlin: elfy: those are the kind of bugs we like XD
[18:01] <elfy> :)
[18:01] <elfy> mhall119: so perhaps we could help get them in touch with the right people at least?
[18:01] <wxl> that being said, czajkowski elfy mhall119, if you don't need anything else, i've got a busy day ahead of me
[18:01] <cyphermox> it looks to me like it's due to the display-manager not stopping early enough before plymouth starts, so plymouth gets confused
[18:02] <elfy> wxl: you go ahead if you need to, I know where to find you :)
[18:02] <wxl> indeed i am around :)
[18:03] <wxl> ok since i'm not hearing anything else, i'm going to disappear for a bit then :)
[18:03] <elfy> okey doke
[18:03] <wxl> thank you all for all you do!
[18:03] <elfy> ianorlin: anything else from you?
[18:04] <elfy> cyphermox: ty for that by the way :)
[18:05] <elfy> ok - I'll call that cooked then - thanks all :)
[18:05] <elfy> #endmeeting
[18:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Apr  2 18:05:09 2015 UTC.
[18:05] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-04-02-17.31.moin.txt
[18:34] <Riddell> wxl: qt chat happens in #kubuntu-devel with mirv and mitya57
[21:03] <JHOSMAN> Hello mhall119 ! =)
[22:00] <zerng07> Hi everyone
[22:00] <ianorlin> hi
[22:00] <d4rk-5c0rp> hi
[22:00] <wxl> yellow
[22:00] <ahayzen> o/
[22:00] <cwayne> hiya
[22:01] <wxl> who's running the show today?
[22:01] <zerng07> well, I don't know...
[22:02] <elfy> bert
[22:02] <wxl> jeez even belkinsa's not around
[22:03] <cwayne> do we have enough for a quorum?
[22:03] <elfy> oh - is there a meeting ?
[22:03] <cwayne> yar
[22:04] <elfy> do a #startmeeting so we all know and logs get logged :)
[22:04] <cwayne> cyphermox, popey hggdh you guys around?
[22:04] <elfy> #startmeeting
[22:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr  2 22:04:57 2015 UTC.  The chair is elfy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[22:04] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[22:05] <elfy> #chair cwayne
[22:05] <meetingology> Current chairs: cwayne elfy
[22:06] <cwayne> #meetingtopic 22UTC ubuntu membership board meeting
[22:06] <elfy> awesome
[22:08] <wxlS5> ugh stupid chrome
[22:08] <zerng07> we are applying for ubuntu membership
[22:08] <wxl> oh there we go
[22:09] <elfy> cwayne: I'm about if you need any voiices or help
[22:09] <cwayne> elfy, thanks, just trying to look for people to ping to get a quorum :)
[22:09] <wxl> hggdh: ?
[22:10] <wxl> jared: ?
[22:10] <elfy> cwayne: yep - I can help there too if needed
[22:10] <wxl> marcoceppi_: ?
[22:10] <marcoceppi_> o/
[22:10] <marcoceppi_> I can jump in
[22:10] <wxl> there's one :)
[22:11] <wxl> freeflying: ?
[22:11] <elfy> wxl: PM
[22:11] <wxl> indeed
[22:11] <wxl> sorry :)
[22:13] <wxl> so we have a quorum now?
[22:13]  * marcoceppi_ is ready and raring
[22:13]  * cwayne is ready as well, and we have popey's votes in the email
[22:13] <wxl> excellent
[22:14] <cwayne> how many do we need again?  /me has never run one of these :)
[22:14] <wxl> hehe
[22:14]  * wxl is not YET on the council so can't help you to be sure :)
[22:14] <wxl> 4 i believe yes?
[22:15] <zerng07> yeah
[22:17] <marcoceppi_> wxl: so, we need to have at least 4 people
[22:17] <marcoceppi_> as 4 votes are required per applicant
[22:17] <marcoceppi_> err cwayne ^
[22:19] <cwayne> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 2200 UTC meeting for April 2, 2015
[22:19] <cwayne> The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[22:19] <cwayne> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[22:19] <cwayne> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[22:20] <cwayne> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[22:20] <cwayne> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[22:20] <cwayne> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers amounts to at least +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[22:20] <cwayne> #votesrequired 4
[22:20] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[22:20] <cwayne> #voters cyphermox Pendulum jared freeflying popey rickspencer3 marcoceppi Destine iulian IdleOne hggdh cwayne belkinsa PabloRubianes s-fox
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: Pendulum
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: rickspencer3
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: marcoceppi
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: Destine
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: iulian
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: IdleOne
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: belkinsa
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: PabloRubianes
[22:20] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: s-fox
[22:20]  * elfy is here if required
[22:20] <meetingology> Current voters: Destine IdleOne PabloRubianes Pendulum belkinsa cwayne cyphermox freeflying hggdh iulian jared marcoceppi popey rickspencer3 s-fox
[22:22] <elfy> so still no quorum ?
[22:22] <cwayne> nope, need one more
[22:22] <wxl> marcoceppi_ + cwayne + elfy (cc) + popey (email) = quorum
[22:22] <wxl> no?
[22:24] <cwayne> ah, yes I guess so then :)  I didn't realize elfy could sub in
[22:24] <cwayne> #voters cwayne marcoceppi_ elfy popey
[22:24] <meetingology> Current voters: Destine IdleOne PabloRubianes Pendulum belkinsa cwayne cyphermox elfy freeflying hggdh iulian jared marcoceppi marcoceppi_ popey rickspencer3 s-fox
[22:24] <elfy> I can cwayne :)
[22:24] <cwayne> we've got quorum then :)
[22:24] <wxl> horray!
[22:25] <cwayne> Now, without any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[22:25] <elfy> I do need to go read wikis too
[22:25] <cwayne> #subtopic Bedis ElAcheche
[22:26] <marcoceppi_> d4rk-5c0rp: you're up!
[22:26] <cwayne> hi there d4rk-5c0rp :)  please introduce yourself and briefly tell us about your contributions
[22:26] <cwayne> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/d4rk-5c0rp
[22:27] <cwayne> #link https://launchpad.net/~d4rk-5c0rp
[22:27]  * Neo31 is here to support d4rk-5c0rp (Bedis), his contribution to our loco team is important and he does good for the international community and we trust he will keep doing great contributions.
[22:27]  * elacheche_anis Hey! Am the Ubuntu-tn LoCo Contact, am here to support d4rk-5c0rp
[22:27] <d4rk-5c0rp> Hi there, I'm bedis, I joined ubuntu-TN since 2011 and I'm now a FF member
[22:28] <elfy> hi d4rk-5c0rp
[22:29] <d4rk-5c0rp> hi elfy
[22:29] <cwayne> thanks for the testimonials Neo31 elacheche_anis :)
[22:29] <cwayne> anyone have any questions or shall we vote?
[22:29] <elfy> what can you say about what you'd like to see you and Ubuntu work towards ?
[22:30] <marcoceppi_> d4rk-5c0rp: I see you do a lot of work in your LOCO, and that's fantastic. Any plans to branch in to other areas of Ubuntu?
[22:31] <elfy> I've read the wiki - but I'd quite like some unrehearsed words - they'll tell me more than that
[22:31] <wxl> as a non-board/council member, but to facilitate conversation, i'd love to hear more on what you'd like to do with ubuntu touch, d4rk-5c0rp
[22:32] <elfy> I'm liking what I've read for suire
[22:32] <d4rk-5c0rp> marcoceppi_, everythig is possible
[22:32]  * marcoceppi_ agrees with elfy
[22:33] <elfy> d4rk-5c0rp: give me some feeling :)
[22:34] <d4rk-5c0rp> wxl, I still exploring some ubuntu-touch tricks, I tried to make two apps before, but they really need some features for now, may be I'll start by getting an ubuntu-phone first, then I'll try to make some training session with people in my Loco
[22:35] <cyphermox> d4rk-5c0rp: si vous avez des difficultés en anglais, je peux traduire.
[22:36] <elfy> d4rk-5c0rp: that's great stuff - how do you feel about getting other people involved?
[22:36] <d4rk-5c0rp> elfy, I want to move from just helping people to use ubuntu, to help them to make apps for ubuntu
[22:36] <cyphermox> that's great
[22:36] <elfy> for sure
[22:36] <cyphermox> elfy: thanks for facilitating the discussions :)
[22:37] <elfy> cyphermox: do we have a language thing?
[22:37] <elfy> eg
[22:37] <cyphermox> what do you mean?
[22:37] <d4rk-5c0rp> I have some ideas about some stuff like some simple dev tools that I want to write and share with the community, but it's just a matter of time for now
[22:38] <elfy> cyphermox: I'm english .. with stupid
[22:39] <cwayne> d4rk-5c0rp, do you have any specific dev tools in mind?
[22:39] <elfy> d4rk-5c0rp:that's great :)
[22:40] <Mikaela> and here I was imagining that this channel had topiclock
[22:40] <d4rk-5c0rp> I have an idea if some generators like CSS things for example, I want to make some kind of game to help kids to get used to cli too
[22:41] <cwayne> d4rk-5c0rp, that sounds great!
[22:41] <cyphermox> not fast enough I guess :)
[22:42] <cyphermox> thanks cwayne, DalekSec
[22:42] <DalekSec> cyphermox: Sure.  Welcome.
[22:43] <d4rk-5c0rp> cwayne, all I need now is time, maybe I'll try to write such tools during a hackathon with my LoCo
[22:43] <cyphermox> DalekSec: could you please do the same for #ubuntu-desktop, #ubuntu-devel
[22:44]  * marcoceppi_ is ready to vote
[22:44] <cwayne> d4rk-5c0rp, awesome!
[22:44] <DalekSec> cyphermox: Sorry no.  No access.
[22:44] <cwayne> #vote Bedis ElAcheche to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[22:44] <meetingology> Please vote on: Bedis ElAcheche to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[22:44] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[22:45] <cwayne> +1
[22:45] <meetingology> +1 received from cwayne
[22:45] <marcoceppi_> +1
[22:45] <meetingology> +1 received from marcoceppi_
[22:47] <hggdh> +1
[22:47] <meetingology> +1 received from hggdh
[22:47] <cwayne> popey: +1 (according to email)
[22:48] <cwayne> erm, didn't seem to count it
[22:48] <wxl>  /nick popey
[22:48] <wxl> ;)
[22:48] <Neo31> lol
[22:48] <elacheche_anis> x)
[22:48]  * popey arrives fashionably late
[22:48] <popey> +1
[22:48] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[22:48] <popey> :)
[22:49] <cwayne> oh cool :)
[22:49] <wxl> yay popey's up late
[22:49] <cwayne> d4rk-5c0rp, looks like you're in :)
[22:49] <popey> \o/
[22:49] <ianorlin> congratulations
[22:49] <elacheche_anis> Congrats bro d4rk-5c0rp :)
[22:49] <cwayne> #endvote
[22:49] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Bedis ElAcheche to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[22:49] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[22:49] <meetingology> Motion carried
[22:49] <wxl> congrats d4rk-5c0rp! please make sure to share your loco stuff with the rest of the locos!
[22:49] <d4rk-5c0rp> \0/ :D
[22:49] <cwayne> congrats d4rk-5c0rp :)
[22:49] <ahayzen> congrats d4rk-5c0rp :)
[22:49] <Neo31> congratz d4rk-5c0rp ^_^
[22:50] <cyphermox> bienvenue d4rk-5c0rp!
[22:50] <cwayne> Now, onto applicant 2 :)
[22:50] <cyphermox> fwiw, I was +1 too
[22:50] <lunapersa> congrats d4rk-5c0rp ^_^
[22:50] <cyphermox> d4rk-5c0rp: please add your blog to planet.ubuntu.com if you have one :)
[22:50] <cwayne> cyphermox, oops sorry, should've held out a bit longer before ending the vote :)
[22:50] <cyphermox> no worries :)
[22:51] <cwayne> #subtopic Cheng-Chia Tseng (zerng07)
[22:51] <zerng07> Hi everyone, I am Cheng-Chia Tseng, username as zerng07.
[22:51] <zerng07> I lived in Taiwan, and have been contributing to Ubuntu since 2010. The most of the work I focus on is about localization.
[22:51] <zerng07> Besides Ubuntu, I also contribute to other FLOSS projects such as GNOME, LibreOffice, Translation Project...etc.
[22:51] <zerng07> I am also a GNOME Member and The Document Foundation Member.
[22:51] <zerng07> My personal wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Zerng07
[22:51] <cwayne> Hi there zerng07 :)
[22:51] <marcoceppi_> o/ hello zerng07
[22:51] <zerng07> :)
[22:51] <wxl> send me some good oolong and we'll make you a member, zerng07. (kidding! well, kind of. i wouldn't mind the tea ☺)
[22:52] <zerng07> Haha!
[22:52] <marcoceppi_> zerng07: very nice contributions so far. Curious, what are (briefly) a few of the things you'd change in the community today?
[22:52] <zerng07> We do have good oolong here!
[22:52] <wxl> i know!
[22:53] <zerng07> I want to change most is about local community in Taiwan.
[22:53] <wxl> cool!
[22:53] <zerng07> As mentined in wiki, we have few contributors here.
[22:54] <zerng07> and there are always some argues in local forum.
[22:54] <wxl> i see there's no lp link on your wiki page so https://launchpad.net/~zerng07
[22:54] <marcoceppi_> wxl: thanks
[22:55] <wxl> are you thinking about taking over the leadership of the tw loco, zerng07? or what are you thinking?
[22:55] <zerng07> Nope
[22:55] <wxl> oh man the tw loco mailing list is dead :(
[22:56] <wxl> sounds like you may have to do some work really building community
[22:56] <zerng07> I would like to help with bluet to make loco more close to ubuntu community.
[22:56] <zerng07> Yeah...
[22:57] <zerng07> that's ture.
[22:57] <zerng07> tw loco is not in good shape.
[22:57] <cwayne> zerng07, can you go into some detail about 'suggesting the proper way to deal with Traditional Chinese locale'?  Do you mean in terms of input methods, fonts, etc?
[22:58] <zerng07> yeah.
[22:58] <wxl> taiwan covers ⅓ of the area of oregon. one of the biggest struggles i have in our loco is uniting that much area, but we're getting there. should be a bit easier for you. start with people you know and branch out from there!
[22:58] <zerng07> I know how to configure those setting well.
[22:59] <zerng07> How to make the system feel confortable for Chinese.
[22:59] <zerng07> such as fontcnfig configuration.
[22:59] <cwayne> have you contributed to Ubuntu Kylin?
[22:59] <zerng07> wxl: thank you!
[22:59] <wxl> are those things you could borrow from ubuntu kylin?
[22:59] <wxl> oh hehehe gmta
[22:59] <zerng07> I have not contributed to Ubuntu Kylin.
[23:00] <zerng07> It is mainly for mainland Chia users.
[23:00] <cwayne> ah, I hadn't realized that, oops :)
[23:00] <zerng07> Some services and apps are not used in Taiwan.
[23:00] <wxl> yeah i expect that the project as a whole is not applicable but i'm sure there are some parts of their work that could make yours easier
[23:01] <wxl> and vice versa!
[23:01] <zerng07> Yeah.
[23:01] <zerng07> :)
[23:02] <zerng07> Ubuntu Kylin brings some changes to Taiwan too. They are going to change the default input method framework for chinese locale.
[23:02] <zerng07> I have known Aroon Xu who is behind this work.
[23:02] <zerng07> Aron
[23:04] <zerng07> I will do some tests and make the switch smooth.
[23:04] <wxl> excellent!
[23:04] <zerng07> That is what I always do. :)
[23:05] <cwayne> :)
[23:05] <cwayne> does anyone else have any more questions?
[23:05] <marcoceppi_> no
[23:05] <cyphermox> not from me
[23:06] <popey> no
[23:06] <hggdh> no
[23:06] <cwayne> #vote Cheng-Chia Tseng (zerng07) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:06] <meetingology> Please vote on: Cheng-Chia Tseng (zerng07) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:06] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[23:06] <marcoceppi_> +1
[23:06] <meetingology> +1 received from marcoceppi_
[23:06] <hggdh> +1 thank you for your work
[23:06] <meetingology> +1 thank you for your work received from hggdh
[23:06] <cwayne> +1
[23:06] <meetingology> +1 received from cwayne
[23:06] <cwayne> I love the focus on i18n
[23:07] <popey> +1
[23:07] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[23:07] <cyphermox> +1
[23:07] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[23:07] <zerng07> Thank you everyone! :)
[23:07] <cwayne> #endvote
[23:07] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Cheng-Chia Tseng (zerng07) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:07] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[23:07] <meetingology> Motion carried
[23:07] <popey> \o/
[23:07] <cwayne> congratulations zerng07 :)
[23:07] <wxl> zerng07: 祝賀 (hope i got that right!)
[23:07] <ahayzen> congrats zerng07 :)
[23:07] <Neo31> congratz zerng07
[23:07] <Neo31> :)
[23:08] <zerng07> wxl: Cool!
[23:08] <zerng07> Thanks! :)
[23:08] <Neo31> wxl, can you help us with something? me and d4rk-5c0rp :)
[23:08] <cwayne> should we keep going since we started quite late?
[23:08]  * Neo31 is sorry for disturbance
[23:08] <wxl> Neo31: any reason why you're singling me out? i'm, of course, happy to help, but :)
[23:09] <wxl> cwayne: i REALLY want ianorlin to get his membership so yes XD
[23:09] <hggdh> I think we can keep on
[23:09] <cyphermox> congrats zerng07
[23:09]  * popey is happy to stick around
[23:09] <ianorlin> as 1200 utc = 3am for me
[23:09] <cwayne> okies, im good to continue as well
[23:09] <wxl> me too
[23:09] <cwayne> #subtopic Brendan Perrine (ianorlin)
[23:09] <cyphermox> I'm good to continue too
[23:09] <wxl> (3am i mean!)
[23:09] <wxl> Neo31: you're welcome to pm btw
[23:09] <marcoceppi_> m etoo
[23:10] <ianorlin> I am Brendan Perrine and I do a lot of testing of iso espically for lubuntu
[23:10] <zerng07> cool!
[23:10] <ianorlin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/walterorlin is my wiki page
[23:10]  * Neo31 will wait for the meeting to finish
[23:10] <ianorlin> https://launchpad.net/~walterorlin is my page on launchpad
[23:10] <zerng07> lxde origins from Taiwan!
[23:10] <ianorlin> I also am in #lubuntu answering question on most days
[23:11] <wxl> zerng07: as an aside, you're more than welcome to help with translation in lubuntu. see me later if you want more info on that XD
[23:11] <zerng07> OK!
[23:11] <ianorlin> I also am involved in the ubuntu-california loco and am one of 3 elected leaders and the biggest event I planned was scale
[23:12] <ianorlin> I have also helped triage bugs and submitted some small patches for typos and was a backup relase manager for lubuntu last Thursday for final beta
[23:12] <wxl> (and did such a good job with that, he'll probably continue to be backup should i go on a vacation during milestones again!)
[23:13] <ianorlin> thanks wxl
[23:13] <wxl> np!
[23:13] <hggdh> ianorlin: BTW, thank you for stepping up to the release manager work last week
[23:13] <ianorlin> hggdh you're welcome
[23:14] <cwayne> ianorlin, do you see yourself working towards more code contributions, or do you think your primary contributions will remain QA/testing?
[23:15] <ianorlin> I want to help on testing but will work towards some code contributions if I can understand it but I find the hard part is wrapping my head around all the libraries needed to contriubte code to lxqt for example which is wehre the development of lubuntu is headed
[23:19] <cwayne> ah yeah, I can imagine that being quite complex :)
[23:19] <cwayne> anyone else have questions?
[23:19] <popey> nope
[23:20] <cwayne> #vote Brendan Perrine (ianorlin) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: Brendan Perrine (ianorlin) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:20] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[23:20] <popey> +1
[23:20] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[23:20] <cyphermox> +1
[23:20] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[23:20] <cwayne> +1
[23:20] <meetingology> +1 received from cwayne
[23:21] <cwayne> big fan of QA contributions (having come from a QA background myself :D)
[23:21] <cyphermox> keep up the work ianorlin :)
[23:22] <popey> yeah!
[23:22] <hggdh> +1
[23:22] <meetingology> +1 received from hggdh
[23:23] <ianorlin> thanks
[23:24] <marcoceppi_> +1
[23:24] <meetingology> +1 received from marcoceppi_
[23:24] <cwayne> #endvote
[23:24] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Brendan Perrine (ianorlin) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:24] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[23:24] <meetingology> Motion carried
[23:24] <ahayzen> congrats ianorlin :)
[23:24]  * wxl gives ianorlin a congratulatory hug!
[23:24] <wxl> yay!
[23:24] <cwayne> congratulations ianorlin
[23:24] <Neo31> congratz ianorlin :)
[23:24] <cyphermox> congrats!
[23:24] <cwayne> keep up the good testing work :)
[23:25] <cwayne> #subtopic Andrew Hayzen (ahayzen)
[23:25] <cwayne> you're up ahayzen :)
[23:25] <ahayzen> \o/
[23:25] <wxl> holy testimonials, ahayzen
[23:25] <ahayzen> Hey folks, my name is Andrew Hayzen I am a student studying a BSc in Software Engineering and started using Ubuntu in 2009.
[23:25] <ahayzen> My main contribution to Ubuntu has been over the past year and a half in which I have been working on the Ubuntu Touch Core Apps project, mainly the Music-app.
[23:26] <ahayzen> This has involved a variety of tasks such has learning QML/Qt, working with 'upstream' projects, other community members and canonical employees, triaging and fixing bugs, using the Nexus 4 (mako) with Ubuntu Touch as a daily driver and many other exciting things :)
[23:26] <Neo31> wxl, I was concerned about the question you asked about Ubuntu Touch in the beginning of this meeting. do you have good contacts with great knowledge of ubuntu touch core development? We need some help
[23:26] <wxl> Neo31: meeting'
[23:26] <ahayzen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ahayzen https://launchpad.net/~ahayzen
[23:26] <wxl> s not over. mind a pm?
[23:26]  * Neo31 oups sorry again
[23:27]  * popey has worked closely with ahayzen over the last 18 months. I'm here both as a board member and to cheer for him.
[23:27] <popey> (I have put a testimonial on ahayzen's wiki page)
[23:27] <ahayzen> thanks popey :)
[23:27] <cwayne> ahayzen, you were at the DC sprint right? I think we were on the same trivia team :)
[23:28] <ahayzen> cwayne, yeah I was ... no way!
[23:28]  * cwayne is drinking out of his second place ubuntu-mug now
[23:28] <cwayne> lol
[23:28] <ahayzen> With Gerry as well?
[23:28] <ahayzen> yeah the second place mug \o/
[23:29] <cwayne> lol yep
[23:30] <cwayne> well, I don't really have any questions
[23:31] <popey> ditto
[23:31] <popey> actually one
[23:31] <ahayzen> uh oh ;)
[23:31] <popey> ahayzen: if you weren't working on music app, what other are of ubuntu would you be interested in?
[23:32] <ahayzen> popey, if you mean in terms of non ubuntu touch ... probably either Juju or snappy
[23:32] <popey> Yeah, anything.
[23:32] <marcoceppi_> +1 for juju ;)
[23:32] <wxl> +1 for snappy!
[23:32] <popey> oi, leave him alone!
[23:32]  * wxl rubs his raspberry pi 2
[23:33] <ahayzen> i would love to be able to learn juju ...and snappy on the desktop would be awesome :D
[23:33]  * marcoceppi_ hugs his cloud
[23:33] <popey> Ok. Interesting. I look forward to seeing future contributions in those areas if you have time.
[23:33] <ahayzen> yeah i hope to get a RPi2 at some point :)
[23:34] <ahayzen> infact can you put Juju on a RPi2 cloud ? (offtopic)
[23:34] <ahayzen> 'cloud'
[23:34] <marcoceppi_> ahayzen: you totally can!
[23:34] <wxl> ahayzen: well there's a snappy image so yes :)
[23:35] <ahayzen> popey, we need to get our apps converging before i can move somewhere else :)
[23:35] <wxl> +1 ahayzen !
[23:35] <ahayzen> wxl, marcoceppi_ awesome :)
[23:35] <cwayne> :) excited for converging apps
[23:35]  * wxl is, too
[23:36] <cwayne> well, shall we vote then
[23:37] <cwayne> #vote Andrew Hayzen (ahayzen) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:37] <meetingology> Please vote on: Andrew Hayzen (ahayzen) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:37] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[23:37] <cwayne> +1
[23:37] <meetingology> +1 received from cwayne
[23:37] <marcoceppi_> +1
[23:37] <meetingology> +1 received from marcoceppi_
[23:37] <popey> +1
[23:37] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[23:37] <hggdh> +1
[23:37] <meetingology> +1 received from hggdh
[23:37] <cyphermox> +1
[23:37] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[23:38] <cwayne> #endvote
[23:38] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Andrew Hayzen (ahayzen) to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[23:38] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[23:38] <meetingology> Motion carried
[23:38] <cwayne> congratulations ahayzen :)
[23:38] <ahayzen> \o/ OMG! thanks :)
[23:38] <wxl> yay!
[23:38] <wxl> congrats ahayzen
[23:38] <wxl> welcome to the family ;)
[23:38] <hggdh> ahayzen: welcome!
[23:38] <ahayzen> sweet :) thanks folks
[23:39] <wxl> thank you membership board :)
[23:39] <popey> \o/
[23:39] <cwayne> ok well, went a bit longer than expected, but successful meeting nonetheless :)
[23:39] <cwayne> thanks all
[23:39] <popey> congratulations ahayzen
[23:39] <popey> yes.
[23:39] <wxl> now you utc'ers can get some sleep :)
[23:39] <popey> thanks everyone fot sticking around
[23:39] <popey> *for
[23:39] <ahayzen> yeah thanks for staying everyone :)
[23:40] <cwayne> #endmeeting
[23:40] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Apr  2 23:40:10 2015 UTC.
[23:40] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-04-02-22.04.moin.txt
[23:40] <cwayne> i've got to run now, can someone else send out the results email?
[23:40] <cwayne> or i can do it when I return