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RAOFmdolezel: Perfectly possible; the desktop-next spin is basically that.00:22
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meretrixDoes ubuntu touch have decent stylus support?01:43
meretrixThe surface 3 looks really nice, but I want linux on it.01:44
sturmflut_meretrix: The Surface 3 is an x86 device, you can put normal Ubuntu on it. There is a nice article on how to do it, http://blog.davidelner.com/dual-booting-ubuntu-14-10-on-the-surface-pro-3/02:28
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sturmflutmeretrix: At this point in time you can probably already go for the 15.04 Final Beta and avoid manually building the kernel02:29
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mota_hello, it seems like google has changed the contact structure so syncevolution not syncing contacts via google anymore, can somebody please confirm me this issue ?05:44
mota_hello, it seems like google has changed the contact structure so syncevolution not syncing contacts via google anymore, can somebody please confirm me this issue ?05:46
Talustusmota_ i guess asking once is enought.. if someone has to say anthing on it he will just do i guess05:48
mota_oh sorry05:48
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juzzlinDoes anybody have any idea why I cannot connect to my Bq neither with adb nor phablet-shell (on Ubuntu 14.04)? My device is in the developer mode and the USB connection works as I can browse the contents with Nautilus. I still don't understand why I can't open a shell. The tools just don't see the device. Either I'm stupid or something doesn't work as expected :)06:20
Talustusdid u tried while the screen is powered on?06:21
juzzlinyes06:22
Talustusas root?06:22
juzzlinRun phablet-shell as root?06:24
juzzlinNo, it doesn't work06:24
Talustusadb?06:24
juzzlinerror: device not found06:25
juzzlinAnd still it's accessible in Nautilus all the time06:25
Talustushave u updated in the last time?06:26
Talustusi have a bad feeling that there is something wrong with latest ubuntu rootfs's as i can not get my ported device to get recognized by adb as well06:27
Talustusthats only with newer rootfs's my old testing one still works06:27
Talustuslsusb still lists it as connected samsung device06:27
Talustusso06:27
juzzlinOk, so I'm not alone :)06:28
Talustusyeah and further06:29
Talustususing the described method in the porting guide to allow adb while screen is off06:29
Talustussimply makes it reboot as soon as i plug in the usb cable06:29
Talustusnot nice at all ^^06:30
juzzlindamned...maybe I'll just go to work :)06:31
Talustusi just finished work and should maybe go to bed ^^06:31
Talustuswill do that06:31
Talustusnight :)06:31
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Mirvtsdgeos: FYI http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aacid/autopilot/dbus_search_no_seen_connections/revision/551 seems empty commit08:36
tsdgeosMirv: it is08:36
tsdgeosit changes the executable bit of debian/rules08:37
tsdgeosthat somehow had been set08:37
Mirvah, interesting08:37
Mirvok08:37
Mirvtsdgeos: so it seems they want to do their own releases, so I'm now testing whether it's okayish not to publish autopilot from the silo for the time being. looking "probably good enough" so far.08:37
tsdgeosMirv: cool08:37
tsdgeosupstream dbus patches failed to integrate in ci, but i think because not all of them were sent to integration08:38
tsdgeosand thus they deadlocked in tests :D08:38
Mirvok. yesterday's test run was fully good at the end (AP update included), the complexity was just that ubuntu-system-settings had apparently regressed in the archive meanwhile which I had to test without the PPA08:41
MirvI've also been doing some exploratory testing. anyhow, if this without-AP run looks good, I'll probably mark the silo as tested still today08:41
tsdgeosok08:43
ogra_(only soft wrae thouh)08:44
ogra_oops08:45
evrsalveti: can you rephrase your question? Are you saying you just have the stack trace and want to find the bucket of crashes that matches this?08:59
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Reconciliation Day! :-D09:13
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CereS2009Hi i've installed ubuntu-touch on a nexus 4, and my SIM Card isn't detected, the flight mode indicator symbol is permanently turned on (even when using wifi) and audio/video (Error playing video Fail to connect with playback backend))doenst't work. Any advice on were to look to further investigate?09:37
lotuspsychje!devices | CereS200909:37
ubot5CereS2009: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices09:37
lotuspsychjeCereS2009: can you also tell us wich channel you installed?09:37
CereS2009lotuspsychje: its ubuntu-touch devel proposed. The OTA Updates are working fine and i'm at r15609:39
lotuspsychjeok im also on nexus7 on devel-proposed09:39
lotuspsychjeCereS2009: maybe its a known issue on n4?09:39
lotuspsychjeCereS2009: idle here a bit, when the devs are waking up and re-ask once in a while09:40
CereS2009lotuspsychje: from the google docs document all should be working.09:40
lotuspsychjemaybe a bug perhaps09:41
CereS2009lotuspsychje: could be, i'm not sure were to look further - tried rfkill -list09:43
CereS2009lotuspsychje: how is it working on the n7?09:43
lotuspsychjeCereS2009: everything works flawless09:43
CereS2009lotuspsychje: good to hear09:44
lotuspsychjeCereS2009: i was on channel devel for long time, but devel-proposed is fantastic!09:44
CereS2009lotuspsychje: the devel channel is the latest, is it?09:44
lotuspsychjeCereS2009: not sure, all those channel infrastructure confuses me :p09:45
lotuspsychjeCereS2009: i have been told here devel-proposed works best for n709:45
popeydevel-proposed is vivid...09:45
popeythat's a bit unstable and could break09:45
lotuspsychjepopey: wich channel do you use?09:46
popeyi have numerous devices, and use different channels on each09:48
lotuspsychjepopey: you have n7?09:49
popeyyes09:49
lotuspsychjewich channel do you use on n7?09:49
popeyit varies09:49
popeyI dont use it day to day, it's used for testing09:49
lotuspsychjeok09:50
lotuspsychjewell im pretty happy with devel-proposed myself, runs smoother then rtm 14.09 and devel09:50
CereS2009which version is devel, then?09:50
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lotuspsychjeCereS2009: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/09:52
ogra_on a tablet you definitely want devel-proposed, rtm gets zero testing on tablets ... on a phone it depends if you want stability (rtm) or the latest features and breakage (devel-proposed)09:53
lotuspsychjeogra_: that was clear :p09:54
davmor2mzanetti: I see Saviq assigned you to full-screen app issue from yesterday so I came to the right person in the first place ;)09:54
nhainesogra_: I have a tracking number for my Nexus 7 now... just have to wait until Tuesday!  :)09:56
lotuspsychjenhaines: you ordered one?09:56
nhaineslotuspsychje: yes, saw a good Groupon deal and decided to go for it.  At the very worst it'll be a nice Netflix screen.09:57
lotuspsychjenhaines: how much did you pay im curious :p09:57
nhaineslotuspsychje: $149.99 plus tax.09:57
lotuspsychjenhaines: n7 performs better then just a netflix screen lol09:57
lotuspsychjenice, mine was new and paid 269 euro09:58
nhainesI can't think of anything else I'd need a tablet for, though.09:58
lotuspsychjenhaines: i like the scopes on it and email/rss news browsing09:58
nhainesogra_: do you have any idea how the direct phone video (in the bq commercials, for example) was captured?09:58
ogra_nope09:59
nhaineslotuspsychje: I can do that on my computer or my phone.  No need for a tablet for that.  :)09:59
nhainesogra_: drat!09:59
popeybq commercials?09:59
ogra_i think aquarius had some howto09:59
nhainesNot only doesn't it work, but in the bug report they're claiming it never worked (which isn't true--because I saw aq's YouTube demonstration of it).09:59
nhainesSo at SCALE I unfortunately had to just loop the commercial and walkthrough.  Which was annoying because I'd spent a couple hours shooting off screen video for a walkthrough!  ;)10:00
nhaines(But on the bright side, it was almost identical to Canonical's walkthrough--so I guess I did a good job! haha)10:00
popeygot a link to the videos?10:01
lotuspsychjeunlock the dir and install kazam from terminal to record :p10:02
nhaineshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dpfHYpfEXY10:02
nhaineshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TShKZLeZzWE10:02
nhainespopey: ^^10:02
popeyta10:02
popeythey dont look recorded on device10:02
nhainespopey: you think they're mockups?10:03
popeyi think they were done in post10:03
popeybut just guessing10:03
nhaines"direct video" means the video was screencast.  "off screen" means someone pointed a camera.10:04
lotuspsychjethe blue dot will be edited afterwards for sure10:04
nhainesTo me it looked like it might be direct video that was composited in during post.10:04
nhaineslotuspsychje: not necessarily.10:04
popeylooks more like a sequence of screenshots animated together in post10:05
lotuspsychjepopey: i also think its animated10:05
nhainespopey: that's technically what videos are.  :)10:05
nhainesThat would be pretty tedious, though.10:05
popeyle sigh10:05
popeynot really.10:06
nhainesOh well, with luck, mirscreencast gets fixed back up again.10:06
nhainesAlternately, Mir gets multidisplay support and can mirror out to a projector.  I would accept that as well.  :P10:06
nhainesBecause at least I can show off the screen during presentations.10:07
lotuspsychjewhat about the ubuntu touch emulator and record from pc?10:08
nhainesI've never fond the emulator to be usable.10:08
lotuspsychjedidnt test myself, but i bet you can record the area with kazam around the virtual device10:09
lotuspsychjeand set a blue dot as mouse pointer on the pc :p10:10
Saviqdavmor2, mzanetti's out for Easter until Tue10:16
davmor2Saviq: oh well10:17
rickspencer3all the phoneception posts this morning on G+ were hilarious11:11
mcphailDoes anyone else find the date/time picker spinny-things a bit sensitive?11:28
mota_does anyone now if the latest image http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed-customized-here/krillin/version-169.tar.xz is working on bq aquaris ?11:55
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CereS2009whats the difference between /ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed/mako   and ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/mako/12:26
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popeynothing I think.12:27
CereS2009popey: thx12:28
popeynp12:28
CereS2009was wondering because everything except audio, video and mobile network is working, and searching for the mistake i'm making..12:29
Tassadarwhen next ubuntu comes, vivid-proposed will stay on the old version whil devel-proposed will always be the version that's currently in development12:29
CereS2009tassadar: ah i see12:30
Se7hello12:31
CereS2009is there anything i need to install or flash later, when i want to use audio/video?12:32
CereS2009eg ubuntu tells me "The phone is in silent Mode" and i can't change anything on the volume sliders12:33
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mr_novemberHi, not sure if this is the right channel. I have ubuntu touch on my nexus 4 and I want to back up all my local data like SMS and photographs12:50
mr_novemberPhotographs can be copied easily but what about SMS? Is there a way to export them into a friendly format?12:51
bjoern__Hi guys... Could anyone help by resolving this boot issue on Ubuntu touch ???   http://askubuntu.com/questions/604397/boot-process-on-ubuntu-touch-on-aquaris-4-5-only-shows-ubuntu-logo12:52
popeymr_november: pretty sure they're in a database somewhere in your home directory12:52
rbasakmr_november: SMS are stored in ~/.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite if that helps. No idea if it's safe to restore just by replacing that file though. Probably not.12:52
popeythere we go :)12:52
ogra_bjoern__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-512:53
mr_novemberrbasak, thanks!12:53
bjoern__@ ogra: As you can see in my post, I have tried to use this method to recover my mobile phone12:55
ogra_and the device was clearly in the bootloader ?12:56
bjoern__Yes... I have chosen "fastboot" and then ubuntu-device-flash starts to flash the image...12:56
bjoern__Or have i missed something ?12:57
ogra_bjoern__, you could try to flash recovery.img manually first12:57
ogra_put it back into bootloader mode ...12:57
bjoern__This is what I have tried at next...12:57
bjoern__No success12:57
ogra_sudo fastboot flash recover /path/to/recovery.im12:57
ogra_sudo fastboot reboot12:57
bjoern__Ok...12:57
bjoern__Just a moment12:57
ogra_*recovery ... and *.img12:58
ogra_(sorry, my kbd is rather broken)12:58
bjoern__No prob12:58
bjoern__< waiting for device >12:59
bjoern__sending 'recover' (8394 KB)...12:59
bjoern__OKAY [  0.338s]12:59
bjoern__writing 'recover'...12:59
bjoern__FAILED (remote: partition table doesn't exist)12:59
ogra_oh, and you probably want sudo fastboot reboot-bootloader ... so you can select recovery right after12:59
bjoern__finished. total time: 0.343s12:59
mr_novemberrbasak, maybe I can export a csv from the sqlite file12:59
ogra_john-mcaleely, ^^^^^ EEEK !12:59
rbasakmr_november: sure - the tables are pretty readable.12:59
ogra_bjoern__, oh, wait ... recovery ... not recover12:59
bjoern__:-)12:59
bjoern__Mom12:59
rbasakmr_november: but no point backing up unless you know how to restore.13:00
mr_novemberYeah13:00
Se7it s a recognised problem that the mms doesn t work ?13:01
bjoern__@ ogra: ok, I have done a "sudo fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" + "sudo fastboot reboot-bootloader"13:01
CereS2009i got no audio on my nexus 4 (devel-proposed), "The phone is in silent Mode" .13:01
ogra_Se7, no, but you might need to set up an APN in the cellular settings, some providers require that13:02
bjoern__Now device is in state "=> fastboot mode"13:02
Se7i did ogra_ :(13:02
ogra_bjoern__, switch to recovery13:02
ogra_and laet it boot13:02
ogra_(into the recovery mode)13:02
bjoern__There is no option "recovery"... only "fastboot13:02
john-mcaleelyogra_, ENOTENOUGHCONTEXT13:02
CereS2009now i searched some logs and found in tone-generator log ausrv: server connection failure: COnnection refused Trying to connect to default Pulseaudio13:02
ogra_john-mcaleely, another messed up device13:03
mr_novemberrbasak, does that sqlite only have sms data?13:03
ogra_bjoern__, hmm, i clearly have three options to select from in bootloader mode13:03
ogra_fastboot, normal and recovery13:03
john-mcaleelyogra_, and what was the immediate cause of messup?13:04
ogra_john-mcaleely, no idea, ask bjoern__13:04
bjoern__Yes, normally I have them, too... But with "sudo fastboot reboot-bootloader" things seem to be a little bit different13:04
ogra_:)13:04
ogra_well, then use the key combo you usually use13:04
john-mcaleelybjoern__, for my information, what was happening before your device went awol? (ie what might have caused it)13:04
ogra_you want to boot into the new recover.img that you just flashed ...13:04
bjoern__Yes... The shit happens as I changed language settings... from german to english...13:05
* ogra_ wonders whats up with the y key ... usually it is g that is broken on this kbd13:05
bjoern__Device wants a reboot and crashes13:05
ogra_bjoern__, that is definitely worth a bug report13:05
bjoern__I think, too.... Thats why I have opened a question at AskUbuntu... Is there a better place to report this bug ???13:06
ogra_see the channel topic "bugs filing"13:06
bjoern__Ok.. Thanks...13:06
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bjoern__I have rebootet my device with "Vol up + power" and chosed RECOVERY... Now I see a big Ubuntu logo13:07
ogra_bjoern__, once you arein the new recovery, check that you can use "adb shell"13:07
bjoern__ogra: How I could see, that I am in recovery mode ???13:08
ogra_the ubuntu logo is a good indicator :)13:08
ogra_can you adb shell ?13:08
bjoern__While displaying big Ubuntu Logo, adb devices says "no devices found"13:08
ogra_hmm...13:08
ogra_adb kill-server; sudo adb devices13:09
bjoern__Ok, it now shows BQ boot logo13:09
ogra_try that line13:09
ogra_oh, was the logo you saw spinning ?13:09
bjoern__Yes, now a little ubuntu logo spins...13:09
ogra_then it was actually flashing something13:09
ogra_yeah, seems you are recovered :)13:09
bjoern__This is the same effect since devices has crashed13:09
bjoern__How log does is take ??13:09
ogra_if you see the small ubuntu logo after the bq one ... max 30sec13:10
ogra_then you should see a session again13:10
bjoern__Nope...       still turning...13:10
peat-psuwitrsalveti: ping13:10
bjoern__This night, it turns > 8 hours13:10
ogra_hmm13:11
bjoern__turning....13:12
ogra_bjoern__, so try to get back into recovery13:12
bjoern__Ok13:12
bjoern__Mom13:12
ogra_you didnt actually flash it yet, that was a cached OTA13:12
ogra_(i had just hoped it would get your back in line)13:13
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bjoern__Ok, display shows "recovery, fastboot, normal"13:13
ogra_pick recovery13:13
bjoern__ok13:13
bjoern__BQ logo13:13
ogra_check that adb shell works13:13
bjoern__Big Ubuntu logo13:14
ogra_good13:14
ogra_not spinning i hope :)13:14
bjoern__adb shell does not work13:14
ogra_<ogra_> adb kill-server; sudo adb devices13:14
ogra_try that13:14
bjoern__$ adb kill-server; sudo adb devices13:14
bjoern__* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *13:14
bjoern__* daemon started successfully *13:14
bjoern__List of devices attached13:14
bjoern__No device13:14
rsalvetipeat-psuwit: pong13:14
bjoern__Still BIG logo13:14
ogra_hmm, then you need to flash the recovery.img again13:15
ogra_the OTA overwrote the open one13:15
bjoern__Ok, i will try it with your manual command line13:15
bjoern__BQ logo13:15
bjoern__THIS is different13:16
bjoern__small logo13:16
rsalvetiev: so my problem (back to the original question) is that the user reported that something crashed on his phone, and he got a crash file under /var/crash that got upload (had the uploaded stamp), but then how to find out that exact crash in errors.ubuntu.com? do we have any crash id that we can use in order to find an specific crash file that got uploaded13:16
peat-psuwitrsalveti: I found another parameter to be set.13:18
peat-psuwithttps://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commit/11ed43242a0fa20f4ef514562514e1bdfb33199e13:18
ogra_rsalveti, the whoopsie log on the device has a UUID by which you can search13:19
ogra_i never understood why we dotn expose that anywheer else but in the log13:19
peat-psuwitI hacked pulseaudio to make that call now, but still no voice.13:19
peat-psuwitIs it possible to expose audio HAL's set_parameters in pulseaudio outside?13:20
popeytedg: you about? we have a question for you in #ubuntu-touch-meeting if you are13:22
tedgpopey, Sure, what's up?13:22
popeycan you join ?13:22
rsalvetipeat-psuwit: interesting13:27
rsalvetipeat-psuwit: it's exposed via stream parameters if I recall correctly13:28
rsalvetilet me check13:28
rsalvetipeat-psuwit: for example http://paste.ubuntu.com/10723970/13:29
rsalvetiyou can set properties via pactl as well when testing13:29
rsalvetibut even after setting that it didn't really work for you, so we first need to find out the right properties for your device13:30
ogra_bjoern__, just FYI, i just switched my phone from german to en_US and dont get any boot problem13:30
peat-psuwitrsalveti: I think those vsid calls need to be made inside pulseaudio, because I think parameters is kept locally inside audio HAL.13:32
rsalvetiogra_: bjoern__: you could also just use 'fastboot boot recovery.img'13:33
rsalvetithen flash with ubuntu-device-flash13:33
rsalvetino need to reflash recovery13:33
peat-psuwitThat's why I ask if set_parameters can be exposed13:33
rsalvetipeat-psuwit: right, you could use the sink parameters as I pasted you for testing13:33
ogra_rsalveti, yeah, i was just wondering if just doing a factory reset from the recovery menu might not be enough13:33
bjoern__@ ogra: ok, I will try this..13:34
ogra_bjoern__, probably try this first http://askubuntu.com/questions/602834/how-to-reset-bq-ubuntu-phone-when-gui-is-inaccessible13:34
ogra_might be enough13:35
bjoern__Ok13:35
bjoern__Thanks a lot... I will try...13:35
peat-psuwitrsalveti: I have to change proplist for sink, right?13:37
bjoern__@ ogra: Problem here: Cause my recovery mode isn't working, I have no option "wipe all data"13:37
bjoern__But probably a "sudo fastboot -w" will help ?13:38
rsalvetipeat-psuwit: yeah13:38
rsalvetithere is a pa_log_debug in that function, you can see if it worked or not by checking your syslog (if you enabled debug in pulseaudio)13:39
rsalvetisudo sed -i 's/--start/--start --log-level=debug/g' /usr/share/upstart/sessions/pulseaudio.conf13:39
rsalvetiif not yet, but would need to restart the job13:39
ogra_bjoern__, once you are in recovery and see the big ubuntu logo you need to "unhide" the menu13:40
ogra_by pressing power13:41
ogra_(i think)13:41
ogra_that should give you a big menu13:41
ogra_i wouldnt play with fastboot -w ... thats an android thing and might cause damage13:41
bjoern__Ok13:42
bjoern__Oh man !!!  Unhiding the menu works... I am happy...13:43
ogra_:)13:43
ogra_try a factory reset now13:43
bjoern__...wiping...13:43
bjoern__Rebooting13:45
bjoern__*bibber*13:45
bjoern__small ubuntu logo13:45
bjoern__Huuuuurraaaa !!!!13:46
bjoern__Es lebt !13:46
bjoern__Uhhmmm.... device is still alive13:46
ogra_supi :)13:46
bjoern__Many thanks Oliver !!!13:46
ogra_welcome ... i still wonder why/how you got there ...13:47
bjoern__Oh, I will write this down in my personal WIKI13:47
bjoern__Well... I could try to reproduce this...13:47
ogra_just switching langs doesnt seem to trigger it for me13:47
bjoern__Hmmm...13:47
bjoern__Probably I could reproduce the steps...13:47
bjoern__I will try13:47
bjoern__Upps... My touch screen is not working... Oh... I am in recovery image mode... ??13:48
bjoern__adb is not working...13:49
bjoern__I will try to flash the stock rom image13:49
dobeyzsombi: hi. do you know if there is a change in uitk in vivid that would have fixed bug #1438419? and could we perhaps get it backported to RTM if so?13:53
ubot5bug 1438419 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu RTM) "Transparent confirmation dialog" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143841913:53
bjoern__@ ogra: This worked for me... back in business... :-)  Thanks a lot !13:54
dobeypmcgowan: ^^ think maybe we could get that on target for next OTA if we're going to stick on RTM for it?13:54
ogra_bjoern__, enjoy :)13:56
pmcgowandobey, hopefully we go to vivid next13:57
peat-psuwitrsalveti: doesn't seems to work. Different function in audio HAL is called (is out_set_parameters, should be adev_set_parameters)13:58
evogra_, rsalveti: the normal way of finding these is by looking up the system identifier, then pulling up the page of all the crashes for a system under errors.u.c. The phone preferences should have UI for this14:04
dobeypmcgowan: i guess it would be fine to target it for the next ota then still, since vivid already fixes it. so either we end up with vivid, and just mark it as fixed at that point, or we also fix it in rtm and have it in the next OTA as well?14:04
evthe reason to do it this way is that local crashes are deleted, whereas on the error tracker they persist forever14:04
evyou can then click down to an individual error report and then "up" to a bucket (problem set) of those errors14:05
evwhere you'll see the full retraced crash14:05
ogra_you mean the "show all former reports" function that fires up the browser ?14:05
pmcgowandobey, once I make a new ota tag we can collect such bugs so we dont forget, but I really expect vivid is the next release after next week14:05
rsalvetipeat-psuwit: oh, right =\14:06
dobeywell hopefully it's stable then :)14:06
rsalvetineed to export something for adev_set_parameters then14:06
ogra_ev, do you mean the function that opens the website ?14:07
evyeah14:07
rsalvetiev: but is there some sort of unique identifier for a device?14:07
evthough that was the quick and dirty version14:07
rsalvetilike I wanted to check the upload for that specific user14:07
evthere's spec for displaying them inline14:07
ogra_ev, thats only a list of UUIDs ...14:07
evrsalveti: yes, I'll get you the command14:07
ogra_ev, how would i map it to a specific issue14:07
ev-ETOOMANYQUESTIONS :)14:07
ogra_without grepping in the whoopsie log (where it is actually showing the relation between crash file and UUID)14:08
evrsalveti: gdbus call -y -d com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences -o /com/ubuntu/WhoopsiePreferences -m com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences.GetIdentifier14:08
evogra_: the UUIDs are identifiers for the crashes (OOPS IDs)14:09
ogra_ev, right ...14:09
rsalvetihm, need to call as root on the device14:09
evcrashes are bucketed together into problems, where a retrace of a single crash will be represented14:09
ogra_[12:55:58] Reported OOPS ID d5e75c50-d926-11e4-9261-fa163e4ccdf214:09
ogra_[12:56:00] Parsing /var/crash/_usr_lib_arm-linux-gnueabihf_url-dispatcher_url-dispatcher.32011.crash.14:09
ogra_this is the relation i mean14:09
evso you can go from system ID 1->M set of crashes M->M problems14:10
ogra_the only place wheer i can get that info is the logfile currently14:10
evno, you can get it from the website if you know the system ID14:10
ogra_without having to crawl throuh 150 UUIDs on the website for my device14:10
evfor any crashes that have been uploaded14:10
evah14:10
evthere is that :)14:10
evbut hey, there's a RESTful API14:10
jgdxpete-woods, hi, did tests pass using the proposed dbusmock branch?14:11
ogra_also, someone really needs to talk  to design so that site gets a mobile CSS14:11
evogra_: you could do that :). Seriously, errors and daisy are UE owned products14:11
ogra_i might :)14:12
evI'd rather not just turf everyone to bdmurray, who has zero help on it these days14:12
ogra_but i think it is a general prob14:12
greyback_.14:12
ogra_LP isnt much better ;)14:12
jgdxthostr_, USS seems to work well using silo 6. APIs work, the wifi screen works.14:12
evogra_: if a mobile CSS for launchpad is important to your team, come to the LP stakeholder meeting :D14:12
ogra_ev, well, it isnt *important* ... i thihnk it simply looks super un-professional that we are now a mobile OS distributor but none of our tools even remotely manages to be shown on mobile devices14:13
thostr_jgdx: great, thanks!14:13
ogra_i mean, i dont want to do code reviews on my phone ... but something as basic as opening a bug report from a mail shouldnt leave me with a broken looking website :)14:14
ogra_and i dont think it is UEs job ... not even for errors.u.c14:14
dobeypmcgowan: oh, if the ota is next week instead of this one, could we maybe get it in for ww13-ota if the uitk team can get the fix backported/landed by monday?14:21
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pmcgowandobey, if we knew the fix we could14:25
tsdgeosdandrader: is the change from 350ms to 1sec wanted?14:25
ogra_dobey, half of europe has holidays tomorrow and on mon ..14:27
dobeypmcgowan: well it seems to be fixed in vivid already, so i guess it should be relatively easy for someone who knows the code to be able to discern what fixed it, from a diff between rtm and vivid, of the toolkit. i don't know if anyone's around that can do that though14:27
dandradertsdgeos, yes, but I could make it a bit smaller, like 600ms. this is just a fallback case in case some item takes too long to make a decision, which should not happen in the first place14:27
dobeyogra_: i know :(14:27
dobeyogra_: some places have today too14:27
ogra_not sure how the SDK team is spread across "easter countries" though14:28
dandradertsdgeos, but if the value is too low it might interfere with valid cases14:28
peat-psuwitrsalveti: Does pulseaudio's card have proplist?14:28
dobeyyeah14:28
tsdgeosdandrader: ok14:28
tsdgeosdandrader: you tricked me into acepting a huge review :D14:28
rsalvetipeat-psuwit: the function is exported but not connected via a proplist yet14:31
rsalvetiu->stream_out->common.set_parameters(&u->stream_out->common, tmp);14:31
rsalvetithat is what is used by the sink14:31
rsalvetiwould need to use u->card_data->set_parameters instead14:31
rsalvetior enable a proplist for a card in pulse itself, but not sure if that is exists in there14:31
rsalvetiyeah, there is a way to set a property for a card itself, would just need to hook a similar function as done for sink14:32
rsalvetiso it could use adev_set_parameters for it14:32
rsalvetisomething that needs to be added14:32
Riddelleah14:58
Riddelldoh14:58
ogra_ouh ?14:58
studio_hi15:13
pete-woodsjgdx: sorry, haven't had the chance yet15:14
pete-woodswill check now15:14
studio_dobey, thanks for the hint last time with the kernel, it was not updated :)15:15
studio_but, zcat /proc/config.gz is different to my ~/aquaris-E4.5/mediatek/config/krillin/autoconfig/kconfig/project15:18
pete-woodsjgdx: some of the tests fail on your branch15:19
pete-woodsit's probably a python2/3 thing15:19
pete-woodsthe debuild runs under both versions of python15:19
pete-woodsjgdx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10724635/15:22
pete-woodsthat patch fixes it15:22
dobeystudio_: the kernel is part of the system image. if you upgrade the system image, whatever custom kernel you might have installed, will be replaced. i don't know why the config is different if it's actually running the one you built.15:23
dobeyanyway it is my lunch time15:23
pete-woodsjgdx: and I can now confirm that my integration tests still pass afterwards15:25
peat-psuwitrsalveti: Does pulseaudio have a proplist hook for card?15:28
studio_dobey, no, after the update today (about 65mb) cat /proc/version still shows "Linux version 3.4.67 (xxx@yyy) (gcc version 4.7.3 (Linaro GCC 4.7-2014.01) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Mar 29 13:29:55 CEST 2015 1.2.1_20140721-0600"15:30
studio_xxx is my username and yyy my computer15:30
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jgdxpete-woods, aah, thank you16:15
AlanBelldo we really think bug 1439640 is Gnome's problem to fix?16:16
ubot5bug 1439640 in file-roller (Ubuntu) "click packages not recognised as .ar archives" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143964016:16
mr_novemberWhat could be the reasons for the SDK to not be able to detect my ubuntu device? A nexus 416:22
bzoltanmr_november: The developer mode should be enabled inthe Settings16:23
mr_novemberIt is enabled16:24
jgdxmr_november, sdk not from ppa perhaps?16:24
mr_novemberI used the instructions on the ubuntu developer website16:24
bzoltanmr_november: do you see the device with adb devices list?16:25
mcphailmr_november: is the screen unlocked?16:25
mr_novemberYes to both16:25
mr_novemberWhen I connect the USB the QT creator screen jumps to device screen and it just keeps fluctuating in the log. Like it shows the device for a second and then shows 'detecting device' again16:27
bzoltanmr_november:  are you on Trusty?16:27
dobeyusb cable is loose/bad ?16:27
mr_novemberon precise. Elementary luna16:28
bzoltanmr_november:  or what dobey said, I have three usb ports on my laptop and  I know that one of them is not good for device connection. Hack knows why16:28
mr_novemberThe cable seems to be good. I can push using adb16:28
AlanBellseb128: I should go bug gnome about .click support in filezilla??16:28
AlanBells/filezilla/file-roller/16:29
ogra_AlanBell, well, the file command clearly recognizes it properly16:31
ogra_so it is clearly a file-roller bug16:33
seb128AlanBell, would be good yes16:33
seb128the click mimetype says it's a subtype from deb16:33
seb128which is subtype from ar16:33
seb128file-roller also opens debs fine16:33
seb128unsure why it doesn't open clicks16:34
ogra_microsoftitis , it is reading the filename suffix ;)16:34
mcphailIs it possible for the Website: and Contact: links in the Ubuntu store to work as hyperlinks and open browser/dekko?16:57
ogra_it is software ... sure thats possible ... :)16:58
kenvandinesmop16:58
kenvandine:)16:58
ogra_(if it is wanted, i dont know :)16:58
mcphailogra_: wasn't sure if there was an equivalent of android intents, for example16:59
ogra_we dont have a mailto: handler installed by default though ...16:59
ogra_(i think, not sure the gmail webapp brings one)17:00
mcphailogra_: i suppose there isn't a core email app17:00
AlanBellfair enough, I will file a gnome bug later if nobody else does :)17:00
ogra_mcphail, i guess dekko might become that ...17:00
ogra_for now there is only the gmail webapp17:00
mcphailogra_: would be nice17:00
ogra_yep17:01
DanChapmandekko is registered to handle mailto's if you have it installed17:01
ogra_yeah17:01
* ogra_ knows that ... 17:01
ogra_my prob is that i dont know the virgin state :)17:02
ogra_all my devices get dekko installed first thing after flashing ;)17:02
DanChapmanogra_ so when i see my download rate increasing, I can just assume you've reflashed your phones ;p17:03
ogra_lool, nah, i only have two active usually ..17:03
ogra_and my bq never gets re-flashed17:03
popeymcphail: known bug17:03
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/135099317:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1350993 in Ubuntu UX "Support link should be clickable, app preview shows mailto links with "mailto" text" [Medium,Triaged]17:04
* DanChapman is interested to find out what will happen when another app also register's to handle mailto's17:04
mcphailpopey: the links in the ubuntu store aren't clickable at all17:04
popeyya17:05
popeythats that bug17:05
popeyunless I'm missing something17:05
mcphailpopey: no - it was just a compound bug and I just read the end bit :)17:06
popeyheh17:06
popey\o/17:06
* mcphail clicks "yes this bug affects me"17:07
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AlanBellhttps://github.com/GNOME/file-roller/pull/1 given that is pull request #1 I am fairly confident that this isn't the way to fix gnome stuff seb128 ogra_ can you point me in the right direction?17:23
alesagemight need a bit of hand-holding with this first SDK deploy, finding that the 'build and install application on device' items are greyed out, have set up a kit for this krillin, am a n00b halp17:26
bzoltanalesage: I am here for you :)17:26
alesagegreat :)17:27
bzoltanalesage:  the "build and install app on device" is grey because you have the Desktop Kit selected ...17:28
bzoltanalesage: and/or you do not have a device connected or emulator started17:28
alesagebzoltan, yes, seeing that now, added the device kit17:28
alesage(device connected) will update if blocked again thx bzoltan17:29
bzoltanalesage:  what kit you created on the first start? ubuntu-sdk-14.10-armhf or 15.04 is what you need17:29
alesagebzoltan, I'm 14.10 armhf for the moment17:29
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bzoltanalesage:  If i do not respond, just leave me message here... I am in GMT+2 zone :)17:30
alesagebzoltan, thank you sir17:30
bzoltanalesage:  14.10 is fine if you are happy with cmake, if you want qmake, you want to use 15.04 chroot17:30
bzoltanalesage:  and if you need a little bit of context about the QtCreator and Kits, here is a reading - https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/03/18/everything-you-always-wanted-know-about-kits-were-afraid-ask/17:31
alesagebzoltan, documentation too :) thx17:32
popeypmcgowan: filed bug 1439795 because others have reported it to me, so I just tried to reproduce and did. It's quite frustrating.17:37
ubot5bug 1439795 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "Impossible to upload pictures to websites (like twitter)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143979517:37
popeypmcgowan: I think perhaps the application calling content-hub (in this case webbrowser) should be excluded from app lifecycle perhaps.17:38
* popey goes out for the weekend, ttfn :)17:38
seb128AlanBell, https://git.gnome.org/browse/file-roller/ and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/, GNOME doesn't use pull requests but just format-patch diff attached to bugs17:39
pmcgowanpopey, ack17:40
x85i have an intel based x86 tablet running android and looking at the wiki there seems to be support for x86 slabs but what does (emulation) does it mean that it runs on top of android?17:53
ogra_no17:54
ogra_a very small android container runs on top of ubuntu ... to make the binary drivers work17:55
Talustusogra_ any idea why my ubuntu rootfs just reboots when using your unlocked adbd?18:04
Talustusthats with the "current" from cdimage.*18:04
Talustusas soon as i insert the cable device reboots18:04
x85this is the device I'm intending to run it on http://www.engadget.com/products/tesco/hudl/2/specs/18:05
mdolezelgetting x86 tablet with windows is better option right for installing ubuntu desktop next ?18:05
mdolezel(thinking about lenovo miix 3 8" )18:06
dobeyx85: the i386 image in the image server is for the emulator, not a device18:08
dobeyx85: you will need to get an image built for that device with the right kernel/drivers then, i presume18:09
ogra_Talustus, no, no idea, doesnt sound like something that th adbd binary could cause though ... more like something with the kernel or gadget driver18:09
Talustushm when using older rootfs it doesnt happen ogra_18:09
ogra_older as in ?18:09
ogra_a week older ?18:10
ogra_a day older ?18:10
Talustusi followed the porting guide for allowing adb wqhen screen does not come on18:10
Talustushm maybe its from past a month i'm not 100% sure18:10
ogra_well, that should be fine, i just wanted to make sure its not a fw releases or some such :)18:10
ogra_*few18:11
Talustuswhen using the stock rootfs i can not get adb shell, then i used the way described on the porting guide18:11
Talustusall is fine until i plug the cable in18:11
Talustusthen device reboots18:11
ogra_and that doesnt happen when you don replace adbd ?18:11
ogra_*don't18:12
Talustusno18:14
Talustusif i use the stock rootfs and plug in the cable "lsusb" shows me my connected samsung device but no adb18:14
ogra_can you boot into recovery and get into adb ?18:14
Talustusi already checked permissions and owner ship of the replaced adbd bin18:14
Talustusyes in recovery adb works18:14
Talustusand on older rootfs it works as well18:15
ogra_good ... try touching /data/.adb_onlock18:15
Talustusi guess the older rootfs does not have the security thingie with screen on18:15
ogra_or /userdata/.adb_onlock18:15
mdolezeldoes anyone know if lenovo miix3 has 64bit efi?18:15
ogra_with the default adbd18:15
* ogra_ has to go now ... 18:16
Talustusok18:16
* ogra_ &18:16
popeyhave a great weekend ogra_18:16
Talustuswill try that18:16
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Dragonkeeperhey guys19:58
Dragonkeepercan i install dhcpd on UT20:03
Dragonkeepertrying to reverse tether android20:03
geniiI think you'd want dhclient then20:05
Dragonkeeperclient ?  UT would be server20:06
geniiReverse tether is when the phone uses the computer's connection. For that the computer usually gives the phone an IP20:08
Dragonkeeperyeah and UT in this case would be the pc20:09
Dragonkeeperto reverse tether android UT needs a server to issue ip via dhcp20:10
dobeyyou are trying to tether over usb?20:11
Dragonkeeperyh20:11
dobeydoes android not support its own usb tethering stuff with rndis?20:11
dobeyjust "android-gadget-service enable rndis" should enable tethering over usb20:12
Dragonkeeperok let me try that again20:12
dobeyor are you trying to use an OTG ethernet adapter over the usb?20:13
Dragonkeeperotg cable + usb / phones on either end20:14
Dragonkeeperandroid-gadget-service isnt a command on android20:14
dobeyno, you run that on the ubuntu phone20:14
Dragonkeeperoh20:15
dobeywhich enables tethering through it over usb20:15
dobey(but it disables mtp, as only one of mtp or rndis can be enabled at once)20:15
dobeythen i guess the android phone should see that and be able to do network through that20:15
Dragonkeeperdobey: ok thats what i did wrong, but how does android reverse tether get enabled20:17
dobeyi have no idea how to use android itself20:17
dobeyfor all i know you might not even be able to do that20:17
DragonkeeperxD okay ill play with it some more thanks20:18
studio_back20:22
studio_who's is taking responsibility for the bq kernel, bq , mtk, or canonical?20:25
studio_john-mcaleely, are you still there? if yes, i compared the "project" (from the git / master) and "config" from today. kernel-configs are different. who made that?20:33
studio_any bq ubuntu-touch user here?20:44
brunch875me!20:49
studio_brunch875, can you help with the bq kernel?20:50
brunch875sure!20:50
brunch875does it involve breaking my phone?20:50
studio_sure?20:50
studio_how to enable nfsd/cifs/v4l?20:51
brunch875oh I thought you wanted me to bombast my phone20:51
brunch875I have no idea20:51
studio_ok, first, how to enable nfsd?20:52
* brunch875 is absolutely clueless20:53
studio_brunch875, have you ever tried to build your own kernel by: "https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5/tree/aquaris-E4.5-ubuntu-master" ?20:54
dobeynfs/cifs are probably disabled20:55
brunch875nope, I haven't fiddled with phone yet20:55
* kenvandine is quite happy using the kernel that was built by the experts20:55
studio_nfsd, cifs, v4l is disabled, i know20:55
kenvandinei don't think i've built a kernel in 15 years :)20:55
dobeyi have, but only to test intel fixes, since apparently i seem to always push the limits of the intel drivers20:56
studio_how enable in the kernel.config?20:56
dobeyprobably not by editing the .config directly20:57
studio_ok, so diffs will be needed?20:57
mcphailstudio_: have you run "make menuconfig"? (no idea if process for building on phone is same as desktop)20:58
dobeyyou probably need to use the kernel 'make config' or whatever tool, because dependencies on options might exist that you aren't aware of, and such20:58
dobeyanyway, time to go21:00
studio_dobey, i never used 'make config' in a BS before. where and how do i have to use that command in the BS?21:00
dobeyin a what?21:00
dobeymake menuconfig is probably better21:00
dobeybut i have to go, so i can't help you21:00
studio_BS = Build System21:01
dobeyyou just run that command in the kernel tree21:01
dobey"make menuconfig"21:01
dobeyanyway, bye21:01
studio_mcphail, any idea in what folder to make "make menuconfig"?21:09
Dragonkeeperstudio_:  make menuconfig is run in the root of the kernel folder21:15
Dragonkeeperif i was using UT 15 instead of UT14.10 would my location via gps only, work ?21:23
studio_Dragonkeeper, what folder is the "root of the kernel folder"?21:24
studio_"~/aquaris-E4.5/mediatek/kernel" is not working with "make menuconfig"21:25
Dragonkeepertry just aquaris-E4.5/kernel/21:26
studio_also not working21:28
Dragonkeepersec21:29
studio_"/kernel/../mediatek/build/Makefile:13: *** TARGET_PRODUCT/PROJECT is not set."21:29
studio_Dragonkeeper, i also asked in #armlinux. maybe have to wait till matthias_bgg is online ...21:35
studio_ok, enough for today. thanks for helping :)21:37
studio_bye all21:37
Dragonkeepermaybe u need to add kernel as part of the ubuntu enviroment instead of standalone21:37
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Giordanosalve, qui si può chiedere aiuto per ubuntu ontouch ?21:50
Se7ciao giordano21:52
Se7credo che si parli solo inglese21:52
Se7;)21:53
Se7se e' una cosa facile provo ad aiutarti21:53
Se7se non parli inglese posso fare la domanda per te21:54
Se7Giordano??21:54
Se7lol21:55
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Giordanoaiuto22:36
GiordanoSi parla italiano?22:37
Dragonkeeperwhos the guy from here that made dekko ?22:47
cwayneDragonkeeper, DanChapman22:47
DragonkeeperDanChapman: any plans for pop3 support ? :(22:48
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Dragonkeepero.o22:51
* cyphermox sighs22:51
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=== k1l_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: | Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Installing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting guide (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bugs filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Nexus Status: http://bit.ly/18kIrhM | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/1ljube1 |
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Dragonkeeperif i was using UT 15 instead of UT14.10 would my location, via gps only, work ?23:23
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