[05:24] <Kilos> morning all
[06:19] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:21] <Squirm> morning
[06:21] <Squirm> Nvm - Off to work
[06:21] <Squirm> chat later
[06:21] <Kilos> ok
[06:21] <Kilos> go safe
[06:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peoples
[07:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone using 15.04 already?
[07:19] <Kilos> nope are you?
[07:19] <Kilos> ill try it when officially released
[07:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> not yet, but considering it
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> i usually install when the second beta hits
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> has served me well for all this time
[07:20] <Kilos> i once installed with the second beta but its not the same as an official release
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> no idea what you mean by that
[07:20] <Kilos> the finishing touches make everything better
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> mm ok
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> debatable but whatever
[07:22] <Kilos> i once watched them on the dev channel just before a release and they do lots of finishing
[07:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> well that's kinda obvious isn't it, if there was nothing else happening after final beta, then it wouldn't be the final beta, it would be the released version
[07:23] <Kilos> lol
[07:24] <Kilos> ya well i cant do finishing things like the clever peeps so ill wait rether
[07:24] <Kilos> rather
[07:25] <Kilos> they know what they are doing, i just break things
[07:33] <Kilos> hi psyatw  
[07:34] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[07:53] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[09:43] <Squirm> Hello
[09:43] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[11:57] <gremble> Good day y'all
[11:57] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[11:57] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[11:57] <gremble> How are you Kilos 
[11:58] <Kilos> im good ty gremble  and you?
[11:58] <gremble> I am well thank you
[12:13] <pieter2627> hi Kilos
[13:01] <Squirm> Today
[13:01] <Squirm> is
[13:01] <Squirm> draggign
[13:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://brentlindeque.wordpress.com/2015/04/02/best-aprilfools-ever-bmw-offered-a-free-car-as-a-prank-and-then-this-happened/
[13:19] <Squirm> ThatGraemeGuy: That's brilliant!
[13:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> if only they did that here
[13:33] <Squirm> I'd have gone
[13:33] <Squirm> and if they refused
[13:34] <Squirm> Held them to their word :D
[13:34] <Squirm> False advertising and all
[13:34] <Squirm> :P
[13:34] <Kilos> lol
[13:40] <Kilos> inetpro  its the second, you dont have to hide anymore
[15:05] <Kilos> wbb, needs to do some ineternal investigation
[15:17] <Kilos> oh my, spooks visit here too
[15:27]  * Kilos hates getting things working and not know how i did it
[15:47] <Squirm> Home
[15:47] <Squirm> 1 week leave
[15:47] <Squirm> :D
[15:47] <Kilos> yay
[16:17] <Kilos> wb Tonberry  
[16:18] <Tonberry> hi
[16:25] <Kilos> hi drussell  hows ya doing?
[16:30] <Mopkop> Hello!
[16:30] <Maaz> Mopkop: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell mopkop Please upload your branch, finished or not , so it can be reviewed and site go live" 2 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes and 6 seconds ago
[16:30] <Mopkop> O sorry, I'll get to that just now...
[16:30] <Kilos> hi Mopkop  hoe gaan dit seun?
[16:31] <Kilos> vergeet dit eers en vertel my hoe dit met jou gaan man
[16:32] <Mopkop> Hello oom. Baie om voor dankbaar te wees! En self? Jammer ek het so weggeraak. Ek sukkel met time management. Ek het nou vir 'n time management kursus ingeskryf by UNISA, en dit gaan al baie beter! 
[16:34] <Kilos> haha keer hulle jou om te doen wat jy wil en wanner
[16:34] <Mopkop> Ja, mens moet verantwoording doen vir elke minuut van jou dag, self as jy tande borsel!
[16:35] <Mopkop> Maar dit werk :)
[16:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:35] <Mopkop> O ja, Moes weer format, het weer my klank gebreek :(
[16:35] <Mopkop> Nou moet ek weer bzr laai...
[16:35] <Kilos> my
[16:37] <Kilos> maak net seker daai kursus sit n halw uur of meer elke dag vir ubuntu
[16:38] <Mopkop> Meer as dit. Die hele aand eintlik! Hulle sê mens moet ten minste 33% van jou dag gee vir werk en studies. Ek doen net studies to 5 uur, so die res van die tyd het ek vir kerk en Ubuntu :)
[16:39] <Kilos> rofl
[16:40] <Mopkop> O, en ek het toe Python geleer :)
[16:40] <Kilos> mooi
[16:41] <Mopkop> Maar dit was 2, moet nou net leer hoe 3 verskil.
[16:41] <Kilos> n begin is n begin
[16:43] <Kilos> en dit sal jou goed te stand kom as jy alby ken
[16:44] <Mopkop> Is daar enige nice video's oor Ubuntu, wat mense sal kry om dit te gebruik. Ek soek 'n kort video wat ek onder 'Get Ubuntu' kan sit.
[16:44] <Kilos> sjoe ons sal by die slimmes moet hoor
[16:45] <Kilos> soos n advertensie video? 
[16:45] <Mopkop> Ja!
[16:45] <Kilos> of een wat wys hoe om te werk daarmee
[16:45] <Mopkop> Enigiets wat mense sal aanspoor om dit te download.
[16:46] <Mopkop> Wat can die? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RwvrCfe2nM
[16:46] <Kilos> https://www.udemy.com/ubuntu-linux/
[16:47] <Mopkop> O nee wag die youtube een is oud.
[16:47] <Kilos> ek kannie youtube of videos doen nie seun. pc te stadig en data verdwyn gou
[16:48] <Kilos> die ding is als verander te gou , elke ses maande is n nuwe release
[16:49] <Mopkop> In Duitsland is internet verniet en steeds vinniger as hier :( Ja, dis hoekom ek aan iets generies gedink het.
[16:50] <Kilos> kyk ook na die ene http://www.infiniteskills.com/training/learning-ubuntu-linux.html
[16:51] <Kilos> maar los eers al die fancy goed laat ons net die site aan die gang kry
[16:52] <Mopkop> Ok :)
[16:52] <Kilos> jy kan mos later ekstra goed inwerk of hoe?
[16:53] <Mopkop> Dis waar! Ek moes reeds, 'n paar goed uithaal :(
[16:54] <Kilos> lol
[16:59] <Kilos> ek gaan eet nou
[17:03] <Mopkop> Geniet dit!
[17:11] <Kilos> hi georgelappies  
[17:11] <georgelappies> hi Kilos, how are you
[17:11] <Kilos> good ty busy eating
[17:12] <georgelappies> long time since I've been here ;)
[17:12] <Kilos> always good when im filling my face
[17:12] <Kilos> hows you?
[17:12] <georgelappies> aah eating is always good
[17:12] <Kilos> ya you very naughty
[17:12] <georgelappies> I am fine thanks
[17:12] <georgelappies> lol
[17:12] <Kilos> where you been?
[17:13] <georgelappies> been taking a break between my studies
[17:13] <Kilos> you okes break with the wrong stuff man
[17:13] <Kilos> hows thew studies going?
[17:14] <Kilos> the
[17:15] <georgelappies> studies is going well thanks
[17:15] <Kilos> good
[17:16] <georgelappies> yeah, wife needs some attention as well :) So between studies and work, I try and spend some time with family as well
[17:16] <Kilos> good man
[17:17] <Kilos> a happy wife is the main ingredient in every happy marriage
[17:25] <Kilos> Mopkop  how do you break your audio every time
[17:25] <georgelappies> very true
[17:26] <Mopkop> Kilos: This time I tried installing Realtek drivers to cancel out the static on the Microphone. Not a good idea!
[17:27] <Kilos> lol what do you do with a mike?
[17:32] <Kilos> Mopkop  save this link
[17:32] <Kilos> https://askubuntu.com/questions/138266/distorted-and-choppy-audio
[17:33] <Mopkop> O thank you Kilos! But I already solved that problem. I just keep creating new ones I have to fix :(
[17:34] <Kilos> lol
[17:35] <Kilos> bit more practise and you can join the bugsquad
[17:35] <Mopkop> Haha!
[17:36] <Kilos> im serious they need helpers badly
[17:36] <Kilos> knowing python will be a big advantage i think
[17:37] <Mopkop> Who is the bugsquad?
[17:37]  * Kilos waves to tumbleweed
[17:37] <Kilos> they the ubuntu peeps that fix bugs
[17:37] <Kilos> hi magellanic  ty all good now
[17:38] <Mopkop> Lol, duh. :P.
[17:38] <Kilos> im sure now i had to do the same thing on unity a year ago
[17:38] <Mopkop> Hello magellanic!
[17:38] <magellanic> heya
[17:39] <magellanic> Kilos: ah, the auto mute? or the modules config?
[17:39] <Kilos> i did both
[17:39] <Kilos> last time too
[17:39] <Kilos>  haha
[17:39] <magellanic> lol
[17:39] <magellanic> are your tunes clear now?
[17:39] <Kilos> yeah lekker ty
[17:40] <magellanic> nice
[17:40] <Kilos> and i put the alsaequal think too and turned down some volumes
[17:40] <magellanic> yeah I saw people complaining about volumes in the forums
[17:41] <Kilos> yeah crazy to drive speakers with built in amps with full volume
[17:42] <magellanic> if you get the time and inclined, remove that module setting and try, curious to see if it was the driver or alsa
[17:43] <Kilos> nono if it aint broke dont fix it
[17:43] <Kilos> leave well enough alone
[17:43] <magellanic> lol okay
[17:44] <Mopkop> I really should learn to follow that advice...
[17:44] <Kilos> lol
[18:18] <magespawn> good evening
[18:19] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[18:19] <Kilos> long time no see
[18:20] <magespawn> a little while, been busy
[18:21] <Kilos> haha everyones favourite excuse
[18:22] <Kilos> even busy sleeping is busy at something
[18:24] <magespawn> that is the next item n the agenda
[18:24] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <Kilos> you ok lad?
[18:25] <magespawn> just tired, too much work with the public holidays taing away two days
[18:25] <Kilos> ai!
[18:25] <magespawn> s/taing/taking
[18:27] <Mopkop> Hello magespawn!
[18:27] <magespawn> hi Mopkop 
[18:28] <Mopkop> I just have the homepage left. Would it be OK to steal from the Ubuntu-ZA site?
[18:28] <Kilos> yes
[18:28] <magespawn> Kilos: but it will be good to have some time off
[18:28] <Kilos> always magespawn  
[18:29] <Kilos> Mopkop  what superfly  doesnt like he will change'
[18:29] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[18:29] <Mopkop> I think he is going to redo the entire site :(
[18:29] <Kilos> letys hope not
[18:30] <magespawn> maybe i can get around to learning restructured text
[18:30] <Kilos> otherwise it means you gotta study harder
[18:30] <Kilos> Mopkop  let him see it and he will give advise, thats how one learns
[18:30] <Kilos> advice
[18:49] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:58] <Mopkop> Kilos: Can I steal this from you? "Ubuntu African Teams gathers all active Ubuntu Local Community Teams in  Africa. The main objective of Ubuntu African Teams is to bring all the  teams together to help each other and cooperate on different issues and  activities"
[18:58] <Kilos> yes of course
[18:59] <Kilos> dont forget that all other linux users are welcome to join us as well
[19:24] <Kilos> oh Mopkop  and of course to promote and grow ubuntu in africa
[19:25] <Kilos> grow, expand , spread, im not sure what sounds best
[19:25] <Kilos> hi captine  
[19:25] <captine> hi there
[19:25] <Maaz> captine: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "Tell captine I've merged your changes and they're live on the site." 2 days, 23 hours, 47 minutes and 17 seconds ago
[19:25] <Kilos> oh wb captine  
[19:26] <captine> man.  been a tough week or two
[19:26] <Kilos> see how long you been missing
[19:26] <captine> yip
[19:27] <Kilos> stay strong things cant get very much worse before something breaks
[19:27] <captine> lol
[19:28] <captine> think my laptop is about to die
[19:28] <Kilos> oh no
[19:28] <captine> sounds very weird... like a morse code sound
[19:28] <captine> when i type
[19:28] <Kilos> when last did you blow all the dust out
[19:29] <Kilos> never i spose
[19:30] <captine> long
[19:30] <captine> u right.. never
[19:30] <captine> lol
[19:31] <captine> am secretly wanting to retire it... lol
[19:31] <captine> still running ubuntu at work so have not used this one much.  will see how long I can get by running it
[19:32] <Kilos> i run a retirement village for old pcs
[19:32] <Kilos> but try removing the keyboard and use strong compressed air to blow all the dust out
[19:36] <captine> will have to, but no compressed air
[19:37] <Kilos> all garages have plenty
[19:37] <Kilos> you just ask then for the valve from an old tube and put that in the punp nozzle
[19:39] <Kilos> those things they pumps cars tires with
[19:41] <Kilos> if you not sure how dirty it is inside you can install psensor and check temps
[19:41] <Kilos> oi
[19:42] <inetpro> good mornings
[19:42] <inetpro> oops... where did the day go?
[19:42] <Kilos> morning inetpro  
[19:43] <Kilos> you didnt even see me mocking you today
[19:43] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:44] <Kilos> must be very busy, ill organise a long weekend for you
[19:45] <Mopkop> Lol
[19:45] <inetpro> ty Kilos
[19:45] <Mopkop> Almost done, just have to add some padding...
[19:45] <Kilos> yw my friend
[19:45] <Kilos> go moppie
[19:47] <Kilos> ill even stay up to see what happens
[19:52] <Mopkop> Yay, now I can just commit. I hope I remember how...
[19:52] <Kilos> lol
[19:53] <Kilos> dont ask me im full from rtfs and getting nowhere
[19:54] <Mopkop> PS, I am not to be held responsible for any spelling mistakes, or any harm done to any person, computer or anyone's mental health.
[19:54] <Kilos> lol
[19:54] <Kilos> inetpro  will fix it
[19:55] <inetpro> Mopkop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_early,_release_often
[19:57] <Mopkop> inetpro: Note taken :)
[19:57] <Kilos> haha
[19:57] <Kilos> dont forget you score brownie points too
[20:02] <Mopkop> https://code.launchpad.net/~prysdieheer/ubuntu-africa/starting-pages
[20:02] <Kilos> inetpro  ^^
[20:04] <inetpro> of course I have nothing else to do
[20:05] <Kilos> but of course
[20:05] <Kilos> nothing more important anyway unless its family
[20:08] <inetpro> Mopkop: cool, that is a start at least :-)
[20:11] <Kilos> did you see the site inetpro  ? or just that lp page
[20:12] <inetpro> Kilos: you can test it also
[20:12] <inetpro> the page tells you exactly what to do
[20:12] <Kilos> i have forgotten all that with this ubuntu mail thing
[20:12] <Kilos> let me go read again
[20:13] <Mopkop> Kilos, I have an idea. I'm sure the church won't mind...
[20:13] <inetpro> you don't even have to remember much
[20:13] <Kilos> the bzr stuff?
[20:13] <Kilos> and nikola
[20:13] <Kilos> what Mopkop  ?
[20:13] <inetpro> Kilos: see "Get this branch"
[20:13] <Mopkop> Kilos: I'll ftp it to the church's domain so you can have a look :)
[20:14] <Mopkop> I'll delete it later.
[20:14] <Kilos> ok
[20:14] <inetpro> Mopkop: why?
[20:14] <Mopkop> So he doesn't have to sukkel with Nikola again.
[20:14] <inetpro> ai! Nikola makes life easy man
[20:14] <Mopkop> That is the problem isn't it?
[20:15] <Kilos> no i just forgot
[20:15] <Kilos> all the cd this and cd that
[20:15] <inetpro> just his fingers need to learn by repetition
[20:18] <Kilos> si i go to ubuntu-africa here and then branch and then the login thing
[20:23] <Mopkop> I don't get this nikola thing. How to I get the output to ftp?
[20:23] <inetpro> ai!
[20:24] <Mopkop> It has all the pages in the output folder, but I can't just double click on it....
[20:25] <inetpro> Mopkop: you can use rsync
[20:25] <Mopkop> on the output folder?
[20:26] <inetpro> well, before you do that
[20:27] <inetpro> do you have ssh access to your server?
[20:28] <inetpro> there's a very simple rsync example in your conf.py file
[20:29] <inetpro> all you need is to modify for your circumstances then you can just execute 'nikola deploy'... but
[20:29] <inetpro> you might not want to do it that way
[20:30] <Mopkop> inetpro: nope, I use shared hosting. So I don't get ssh.
[20:30] <Mopkop> Just ftp
[20:31] <inetpro> hmm... the point is, you just mirror the output/ folder to your webserver's destination folder
[20:31] <inetpro> for example: "rsync -rav --delete output/ joe@my.site:/srv/www/site"
[20:31] <Mopkop> I did that. It doesn't show the pictures and doesn't seem to link the stylesheets :(
[20:32] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:32] <Mopkop> Let me do it again and i'll show you...
[20:32] <Mopkop> I think it has somthing to do with the link paths...
[20:32] <Kilos> ive got mine  going so i can see the original site at miles@P64:~/Projects/ubuntu-africa/trunk/output$
[20:32] <inetpro> Mopkop: the links are relative to the root, that is why
[20:32] <Kilos> what  must i change inetpro  
[20:33] <Mopkop> So I should create a sub-domain and try again?
[20:33] <inetpro> Mopkop: or you must figure out how to let nikola use relative links
[20:34] <Mopkop> aai...
[20:34] <Kilos> lol
[20:35] <Kilos> inetpro  i dont know how to point it to other branches
[20:35] <inetpro> Kilos: WAYTTD?
[20:35] <Kilos> see what he did
[20:35] <inetpro> uh
[20:37] <Kilos> oh i need to use that address from get this branch
[20:37] <inetpro> Kilos: go to the folder ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa/ and then 
[20:37] <inetpro>      bzr branch lp:~prysdieheer/ubuntu-africa/starting-pages 
[20:38] <Kilos> sigh
[20:39] <Kilos> here by me or on lp
[20:39] <Kilos> as in how much must i do here in the terminal
[20:39] <inetpro> it will effectively download Mopkop's project into a folder called 'starting-pages' on your machine
[20:39] <Mopkop> Kilos: I feel the same. They should make a GUI for nikola. I think bzr already has a GUI.
[20:40] <inetpro> guys, this is easier than falling off a tree
[20:40] <Kilos> oh ya i see then nikola build and nikola branch
[20:41] <inetpro> nikola build && nikola serve
[20:41] <Kilos> but i have to already be in a branch to do that
[20:42] <inetpro> Kilos: go to the folder ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa/starting-page and then 'nikola build && nikola serve'
[20:42] <inetpro> obviously after having set the virtualenv thingy
[20:42] <Kilos> ai!
[20:43] <Kilos> all this so late at night
[20:43] <inetpro> it's just a matter of getting used to it, and you can not get used to it if you don't start somewhere
[20:45] <Mopkop> Maybe I should just install apache again. Then I can run it locally and you can see it by typing in my IP in your browser....
[20:46] <inetpro> Mopkop: no, he knows how to see it with nikola
[20:46] <inetpro> he has done it more than once
[20:47] <inetpro> repeat, repeat, repeat... eventually it will become 2nd nature
[20:47] <Mopkop> Ok :-[
[20:47] <Mopkop> Well I did find an easier way to do it than using pyenv :)
[20:48] <inetpro> putting it on another server is pointless and introduces more issues
[20:49] <Mopkop> echo "alias nikola=~/virtualenv/bin/nikola" | tee --append ~/.bash_aliases
[20:49] <Mopkop> Now you can just type in nikola and it will work through virtualenv :)
[20:50] <inetpro> yikes!
[20:50] <Mopkop> Did I break something again? =-O
[20:50] <Kilos> lopl
[20:50] <Kilos> lol ook
[20:50] <Kilos> ek te moeg nou
[20:51] <inetpro> Mopkop: no, just an interesting way of adding the alias to ~/.bash_aliases
[20:52] <Mopkop> inetpro: Is there an easier way?
[20:52] <inetpro> Mopkop: superfly said he has written up new instructions for us but we still need to see that
[20:53] <inetpro> there are multiple ways to do it
[20:53]  * inetpro thought the pyenv was quite simple
[20:53] <Mopkop> I like the copy-paste way :)
[20:54] <inetpro> you do it once and it gets out of your way
[20:55] <inetpro> but my simple tends to be complicated for most people
[20:55]  * inetpro is used to that
[20:55] <Mopkop> inetpro: Indeed!
[20:57] <superfly> inetpro: I wrote them up on Trello
[20:59] <Kilos> im too tired to go on now guys.
[20:59] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:59] <inetpro> superfly: where?
[21:00] <inetpro> Kilos: good night
[21:00] <Mopkop> Night Kilos!
[21:00] <Kilos> sorry i cant go on
[21:01] <Mopkop> I'm going to bed too. Have Church tomorrow. Lekker slaap almal!
[21:05] <superfly> inetpro: it looks like someone overwrote it
[21:05] <inetpro> ai!
[21:05] <inetpro> where was it?
[21:06] <superfly> inetpro: oh, wait, here it is: https://trello.com/c/hRfmh5Kd/45-build-ubuntu-africa-site
[21:06] <inetpro> unfortunately trello has no version control for the description
[21:07]  * inetpro will look at that tomorrow then we can revise the whole thing and publish on the site
[21:08] <inetpro> using trello for documentation is not the best idea
[21:09] <inetpro> thanks superfly
[21:09] <superfly> indeed not
[21:10] <inetpro> but it's a nice and easy way to get started
[21:10] <inetpro> good night