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slickymasterWorkknome, ping08:51
ochosielfy: just a quick heads up question: have any critical issues come up since i've been afk?08:52
ochosior to rephrase that, if any come up, please ping me!08:52
slickymasterWorkhey ochosi 08:52
ochosihi and bye slickymasterWork :)08:53
slickymasterWorkbye ochosi ;)08:53
elfyochosi: nope and I would ofc 08:54
elfyoff now - cya 08:54
ochosiwell, that's good to hear (the prior more than the latter even :))08:54
knomeslickymasterWork, pong09:13
slickymasterWorkfirst of all, good morning09:24
slickymasterWorksecondly, I'm going to forward you an email I received09:25
slickymasterWorksent knome 09:25
slickymasterWorkis it related to the website?09:25
* knome looks09:26
knomeno09:27
knomeit's related to wordpress.com09:27
slickymasterWorkthe only accounts I have wordpress related are the -xub website and the FC blog09:28
knomethat's weird09:28
slickymasterWorkvery weird09:28
knomemaybe you should reset the pass and delete the account09:28
knomeor sth - you clearly have an account09:29
slickymasterWorkthe  website account?09:29
knomethe wordpress.com account09:29
slickymasterWorkbut I don't hane one :P09:29
slickymasterWork* have even09:29
knomewordpress.com is a service provided by the wordpress developers that provides the wordpress platform09:30
slickymasterWorkyeah, I know that.09:30
knomewell the email is valid - it does redirect you to wordpress.com09:30
knomemaybe you've created an account to comment on some blog or sth?09:31
slickymasterWorkI'm starting to think that it's probably phishing knome 09:32
knomeno, as i said, the mail is valid09:32
knomeit does redirect to wordpress.com09:32
slickymasterWorkI'm almost sure that I never had, or created, a wordpress account09:33
slickymasterWorkanyway, going to reset it and delete the account09:33
knomei guess then don't mind the message:P09:33
slickymasterWorkok09:33
knomeyou probably get a message saying the key doesn't exist09:34
knomebecause i followed that link once09:34
knome:P09:34
knomeso you need to ask to reset your pass again09:34
slickymasterWorkok, thanks for the heads up09:34
knomenp. hope you solve the mystery09:35
Unit193And if not, rm -rf09:35
knomewas the slickymaster in forum council an april fools joke? ;P09:36
Unit193Yes, nobody is crazy enough to put him in.09:37
knomeyep.09:38
slickymasterWorkapparently everyone went cuckoo at the FC, Unit193 09:43
knomethat can't be true09:44
slickymasterWorkthey put me there knome.!!09:44
knomethere is no way elfy could have "went" cuckoo09:44
knomehe is already...09:44
slickymasterWorkyeah09:45
slickymasterWorkbtw knome, did you get any conclusions on an alternative to your doubt with https://code.launchpad.net/~krytarik/xubuntu-docs/patches/+merge/25448509:46
knomeno, my brain has been unable to process that information :P09:46
slickymasterWorklol09:46
slickymasterWorkglad to know I'm not the only one with a need for an occasional reboot09:47
slickymasterWork:P09:47
knomei still think it's a bad thing language-wise for some languages09:47
slickymasterWorkthe way I see it knome, if it passes the Finnish test, the it will pass all others09:48
knomethis would be different if we did this from the beginning09:48
knomeso we could have given people instructions09:48
* slickymasterWork doesn't recall another idion wit so many letters per word09:48
slickymasterWork* idiom09:48
knome"note that the cross reference prints the chapter name as is"09:48
slickymasterWorkyes09:49
slickymasterWorkdid you get to check a trial test of a translated finnish version with this new approach knome ?09:49
knomeyeah, i checked that back then09:50
knomeand it didn't convince me for this particular reason09:50
Unit193I only had a minor nitpick, and IMO we should get this in soon.09:50
knomeUnit193, like for 15.04?09:50
knomenow here's the thing09:51
knomethe reason i think this is a problem isn't that "you can't make the finnish version look fluent with this solution"09:51
knomeit's "the current finnish translation doesn't work with this solution"09:52
knomeso it would mean i (or somebody else) would have to see every place where cross references are09:52
knometo see if they read fluent or not09:52
knomeand change as appropriate09:52
knomeand i would imagine it would mean a change in most of the places09:52
Unit193Considering x-d-s has already been updated and pushed for it?09:53
knomeare we talking about the same thing?09:54
knomeoh right, you are talking about the other parts of the MP09:54
Unit193And, the English part of that looks crappy. :P09:54
knomei have no problems with that.09:54
knomeenglish part of what?09:54
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bluesabreassuming google doesn't lie to me... happy birthday lderan !10:37
slickymasterWork\o/ congrats lderan 10:37
* knome plays a little birthday fanfare for lderan 10:37
elfyhippy burpday lderan 10:42
knomehah10:42
knome;)10:42
bluesabrethoughts about the updated description here? https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev10:46
elfythe only thing I take issue with is the sudden appearance everywhere of 10:47
elfyperpetually10:47
elfyor do other people use a different meaning to me ;)10:48
knomepropose an alternative10:48
slickymasterWorkelfy, take it like a marriage 10:48
elfyThis team is moderated; only users who have been approved by the Xubuntu Technical Lead will be approved to the team.10:49
knomeelfy, when are people approved by the xubuntu technical lead?10:49
elfyno idea 10:50
elfyI've never asked10:50
knome...when they have contributed perpetually?10:51
elfyperpetual - occurring repeatedly; so frequent as to seem endless and uninterrupted.10:51
elfyit's just the wrong word :)10:51
Unit193^10:52
elfyif I had QA team only having perpetually contributing people - it would be empty10:52
knomei was asking for an alternative word proposal :)10:52
knomesustainably?10:52
elfyok - so I am asking why there is a need for a word anyway? 10:52
knomepersistently?10:52
elfynope - I only asked once :d10:53
knomebecause if you say "only approved people will be approved" it means nothing10:53
elfythen lose the whole thing :D10:53
knomewell,10:53
knomethe history of this clause is that people keeped trying to join the teams10:53
knomethis cuts the amount of people at least a bit10:53
Unit193sustained and high quality. :P10:55
knomeUnit193, we'll have to drop you from some of the teams then...10:55
knome:P10:55
Unit193That's alrighty. :P10:56
knome(just kidding for all the log readers who don't understand jokes)10:56
* Unit193 waves to krytarik.10:56
elfyif the reason for having stuff in LP is because people don't read other things - then it's just never ending10:56
Unit193This is the song that never ends...10:57
elfyperhaps the link should be to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu_Team10:58
knomeelfy, maybe, but then that explains why you aren't allowed in the team, not how you can contribute to become part of the team10:58
elfybecause that's the rule book10:58
knome(like the current link target does)10:58
elfyreally don't care - just don't expect me to say perpetually to anyone as that's just wrong 10:59
knomelol10:59
knomei'm fine with changing the word10:59
knomeso what if11:00
knomeinstead of putting the descriptions everywhere11:00
elfyand this just goes back to the difference between some of us thinking that LP is NOT the place for stories11:00
knomewe worked on the description in one place - the pad11:00
Unit193continually|sustained|continued|foopermania11:00
knometo get it in good shape before we land it11:00
knometo allow feedback and all11:01
knomewhich was the original idea...11:01
elfysustained is closer for sure - but we expect people to sustain for 6 months 11:01
elfyand THAT is not anywhere near perpetual :p11:01
Unit193Nooope.11:01
Unit193"For as long as the project existed, and until it ends?"11:01
bluesabreOnly those with sustained contributions and are approved by the XTL will be added to the team ?11:03
elfythat works 11:03
knomebluesabre, that's beating it to death11:03
Unit193I don't see the cookies, only those that bring me cookies win.11:03
knomebluesabre, the approval will happen once there are sustained contributions...11:03
Unit193But otherwise it looks good.11:03
bluesabrewith a rubber mallet11:03
bluesabreunless the current XTL is insecure about giving them upload rights to the PPAs, code :)11:04
elfyI still have no idea why there's this need to be changing things everywhere 11:05
knomeelfy, consistency11:05
elfywith what?11:06
knomewithin the descriptions11:06
bluesabreI somewhat triggered it.  The previous description for this team was a bit inaccurate, so I mentioned it to knome that it didn't align with the SD11:06
elfywell - given that I've got my feet firmly stuck - the consistency isn't going to be very consistent 11:06
elfybluesabre: that's fair enough - I can understand a need to deal with that 11:07
elfybut I'm now blaming you for everyone else having to get involved :D11:07
bluesabre:'(11:07
Unit193Can't we just blame bluesabre anyway?11:08
knomeelfy, well you didn't have to get involved... ochosi could have changed the description for you :P11:08
elfybut it's ok - I know you care :p11:08
elfyknome: and I'd have changed it back 11:08
knome:P11:08
knomebecause?11:08
bluesabreI'll take blame, won't cry over it11:08
elfyha ha ha 11:08
knomei don't know why this ever became such a big thing, it's a few words in the internet...11:09
elfy:)11:09
elfybecause LP is not the place for stories 11:09
knomebut it's not even a short story :(11:09
Unit193Can't we all just agree with bluesabre now?11:09
knomeor a poem?11:09
knome-?11:09
knomeUnit193, no?11:09
slickymasterWorkftr I don't agree with Unit193's cookies policy :P11:11
* slickymasterWork doesn't like sweets11:11
elfymmm11:11
elfyI need to leave https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team11:11
Unit193slickymasterWork: Nono, they only have to bring them to me.11:11
Unit193elfy: Why?11:11
elfyI only turned up a while ago - and I'm not doing stuff all the time 11:11
slickymasterWorkwell, if it's like, then I won't mind11:12
elfyUnit193: because it says 'perpetually' 11:12
elfy:)11:12
bluesabreI'm also not a fan of the word 'perpetually'11:12
elfysustainable contributions is what we want, what we expect - so should probably be what we say 11:13
Unit193^11:13
knome"Only people with sustained contributions to the team will be considered for approval."11:13
bluesabreright11:13
Unit193left!11:13
bluesabrethat sounds good11:13
knomebluesabre, please update the pad as you go too, so we have it tracked11:13
bluesabredown!11:13
elfyyep - agreed - that's also the truth 11:13
elfydon't leave me with the centre :(11:14
knomeelfy, you can take up11:14
elfyfishing !!!11:14
elfyI'll take up fishing 11:14
knome:D11:14
bluesabre:D11:14
elfyI can agree with the sustained contributions sentence 11:17
elfyand I've not got a big problem with LP descs making sense either - as long as they're succinct11:18
knomemhm11:22
knomei got to run11:22
knomebbl11:22
Unit193Noskcaj: Nearly a week has passed for xfburn with no changes, popping one up for you now.21:38
elfynoooooo21:38
elfyit failed last time I had hardware :p21:38
knomeelfy, "noo, meetingology is back" ?21:38
knome:P21:38
elfywoohoo21:38
elfy?working? 21:38
knomecan't be.21:38
elfy#seemsso21:38
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ubottuA netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit21:39
Unit193ERROR: files left after uninstall:21:46
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