[02:33] <ScottK> Riddell: I've been too busy with $work to have a firm opinion on the docs stuff, but rebuilding everything KDE4 seems like a bad idea.
[02:34] <ScottK> It may well be the least bad option though.
[08:42] <soee> Riddell: ping
[09:07] <Riddell> hi soee 
[09:08] <soee> Riddell: hve you seen my message yesterday about update notification massage goes a bit creazy during packages list update ?
[09:09] <Riddell> soee: at least they keep you well informed :)
[09:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:22] <Riddell> soee: what are the annoying popups?
[09:22] <Riddell> soee: sddm/nvidia-prime work seems to be still on going
[09:24] <soee> Riddell: nvidia-prime/sddm does not work
[09:24] <Riddell> soee: what happens?
[09:25] <soee> Riddell: sddm + nvidia-prime + propriety driver = black screen after plymouth (sddm does not start)
[09:26] <soee> Riddell: sddm + nvidia-prime with intel profile sddm starts but after login desktop freezes 
[09:26] <soee> Riddell: after propriety river adn nvidia-prime were removed, desktop keep freezeing after some seconds, it had something to do in some file on ./config
[09:29] <Riddell> hmm, spooky voodoo this stuff is
[09:30] <Riddell> d_ed: remember to reply to alberto's patch on sddm :)
[09:32] <soee> Riddell: ahoneybun_ experiance with nvidia-prime http://paste.ubuntu.com/10729410/
[09:37] <soee> Riddell: notifications https://youtu.be/_defBgx7Ubo
[09:39] <Riddell> soee: I think you have some System updates available :)
[09:40] <soee> Riddell: hehe yes, one i downgrded sddm to demonstrate the popup notification when updating packages from terminal :)
[09:44] <Riddell> soee: can you report a bug on that? https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=muon&format=guided
[09:49] <soee> Riddell: updater component?
[09:51] <Riddell> soee: notifier I think
[09:55] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: do you think you'll be able to "Port Muon Discover featured apps to kf5" ?
[09:55] <Riddell> there's also "update/scrap links wiki page" for anyone who wants to be useful :)
[09:58] <Riddell> ahoneybun_, yofel: there seems to be a kubuntu docs branch in kde git? should we use that and call the launchpad one dead? http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fsitter%2Fkubuntu-docs.git
[09:58] <soee> done, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345823
[09:59] <Riddell> thanks soee 
[09:59] <soee> Riddell: np, this isnt some serious issue, just might be a bit annoying when one updates packages crom command line
[10:02] <Riddell> d_ed: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/201932142/sddm_0.11.0-0ubuntu7_0.11.0-0ubuntu8.diff.gz sane to add?
[10:07] <Riddell> ScottK: we sorted the docs paths a much nicer way :)
[10:08] <Riddell> hi Simon_B 
[10:18] <d_ed> the zsh patch, sure
[11:39] <Riddell> sitter: are you about today?
[12:45] <Riddell> "Choqok 1.5 released "
[12:45] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion choqok 1.5
[12:45] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1440048
[12:57] <sitter> Riddell: kinda
[12:57] <Riddell> sitter: what think you about moving about-distro to plasma-desktop ?
[13:04] <soee> this choqok need nicer icon for systray
[13:18] <sitter> Riddell: fine by me
[13:19] <sitter> Riddell: you probably should run that by the VDG though
[13:28] <mparillo> It looks as if this: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?66804-Enjoy-the-Progress-of-Kubuntu-15-04-Vivid&p=369829#post369829 is a bug against libreoffice-kde. I could not find a separate component for libreoffice-kde on laumchpad to file a bug there. Is there a better place than simply libreoffice on Launchpad?
[13:29] <Riddell> mparillo: launchpad is big and monolithic so it's just libreoffice in launchpad
[13:30] <Riddell> mparillo: but that's a bug with the qt4 themeing which is a) upstream and b) unmaintained
[13:30] <Riddell> so I think it's best to just say "sorry that's not going to change until someone does the qt5 themeing"
[13:31] <mparillo> So no point in filing a bug? Mind if I quote you on the KFN thread?
[13:31] <Riddell> go ahead
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:37] <Riddell> sitter: I've imported translations for KDE Config Module for Whoopsie KDE Config Driver Manager Kubuntu Debug Installer Kubuntu Notifications Helper
[13:43] <sitter> Riddell: <3
[13:51] <Riddell> and notified ubuntu-translators
[14:51] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: my branch on lp are based on harald's on git
[14:51] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: also what do you mean port? do you mean work on the banner?
[14:53] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: yep, banner
[14:55] <ahoneybun_> apt-get source muondicover will give me the sizes?
[14:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: yeah I guess so
[15:05] <ahoneybun_> ok
[15:08] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: written in lovely qml
[15:09] <ahoneybun_> what apps in kf5 do we want to show case?
[15:09] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: krita! kexi! digikam?
[15:10] <sgclark> kdeconnect
[15:10] <Riddell> it's already on by default
[15:10] <Riddell> so no need to advertise it in muon
[15:10] <sgclark> ah ok lol
[15:10] <Riddell> kdenlive?
[15:10] <Riddell> gcompris!
[15:11] <soee> calligra ? :)
[15:11] <ahoneybun_> could work that in soee
[15:11] <soee> though i prefere LO
[15:11] <Riddell> krita and kexi are the best parts of calligra
[15:11] <soee> ah, ok
[15:11] <soee> simplescreenrecorder :D
[15:12] <ahoneybun_> https://krita.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/user-interface.jpg ?
[15:12] <sgclark> did we switch to konversation or quassel still default?
[15:13] <ahoneybun_> konversation
[15:13] <Riddell> konversation is default
[15:13] <sgclark> cool beans
[15:13] <soee> Riddell: now i check for updates in muon, and this notification i mentioned earlier was rendered 12 times oO
[15:13] <Riddell> so worth advertising quassel as the one to keep your presense online
[15:14] <Riddell> soee: can't say you weren't informed :)
[15:14] <soee> no i can't :)
[15:14] <ahoneybun_> krita, kexi,  kdenlive
[15:14] <ahoneybun_> soee: ssr is in a ppa no?
[15:15] <soee> ahoneybun_: im nt sure
[15:15] <Riddell> xennex81: what what?
[15:15] <soee> need to check
[15:15] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: what would be awesome is redo the slideshow in qml
[15:15] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: it is qml surely?
[15:16] <ahoneybun_> not the ubuntu slideshow
[15:16] <soee> ahoneybun_: but it hnk yes, i rememebr i was writring do developer to add vivid builds liek a month ago
[15:16] <ahoneybun_> muondiscover yes
[15:17] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: ^
[15:17] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: go ahead :)
[15:19] <soee> xennex81: yes any tests and bug reports dirung upgrades are welcome
[15:19] <xennex81> any kind of upgrade path from 14.10 to 15.04 you want me to perform?
[15:19] <soee> there were some issues with baloo i think, but they shoudl be fixed now
[15:19] <xennex81> i am going to install ubuntu gnome first though but I'll probably reinstall my system about 5 times
[15:20] <soee> Riddell: ^ any test needed when upgrading from 14.10 ?
[15:20] <xennex81> give or take 5 times
[15:20] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: how do I test my changes to muon discover?
[15:20] <Riddell> xennex81: add  "212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com" to /etc/hosts and run muon-updater and see if you get a notification "
[15:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: well there's the question :)
[15:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: old one had files in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/
[15:21] <xennex81> was that for me?
[15:22] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: I made changes to muons source
[15:22] <ahoneybun_> I don't see a debian dir
[15:22] <ahoneybun_> bbl work
[15:22] <soee> xennex81: i think yes, this wa y you should have notiication about available ditribution upgrade <- Riddell ?
[15:22] <xennex81> it says a new version of ubuntu is available
[15:23] <xennex81> kubuntu*
[15:23] <xennex81> with an upgrade button
[15:23] <xennex81> i can hit it see what it does, I just need to make a final backup of some thing and then I can go
[15:24] <xennex81> brb
[15:26] <soee> oh some smal sddm update, but i assume it has nothing to do with nvidia-prime ?
[15:30] <Riddell> soee: probably not, it'll be the zsh patch, nvidia-prime has the second half of its patch still needing reviewer
[15:33] <xennex81> Riddell: does the updater require anything other than port 80/443?
[15:34] <xennex81> cause i'm behind a firewall but the tunnel I use is sloer
[15:34] <xennex81> slower
[15:35] <yofel> Riddell: I don't really care which one we use, but IIRC ahoneybun_ has no kde git access?
[15:36] <xennex81> gonna eat while my backup runs, gonna hit it afterward
[15:38] <sgclark> Riddell: any good ppa to get cmake3 in utopic? my kde ci builds barfing because they want cmake3
[15:39] <Riddell> xennex81: it just uses apt
[15:40] <Riddell> sgclark: https://launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/ubuntu/cmake-3.x maybe?
[15:40] <Riddell> I just searched at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=cmake
[15:41] <sgclark> thanks
[16:08] <xennex81> apt always works behind this fw
[16:08] <xennex81> i just can't chat (unless I use a web client)
[16:09] <xennex81> what happens if I close the link in the meantime (like close the tunnel) what would happen?
[16:09] <xennex81> i mean the vpn
[16:09] <xennex81> i can check
[16:11] <Riddell> mm dunno, it'll keep trying until it comes back?
[16:26] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: thank youo
[16:27] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun_: ping
[16:27] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ping
[16:28] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin 
[16:28] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: about the pictures from http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/9-04-release/ and http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/9-10-release/
[16:29] <ovidiu-florin> can you still get them?
[16:29] <ovidiu-florin> or mark this as done? and forget about them?
[16:29] <Riddell> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/9-04-release/ looks like it has pictures
[16:29] <Riddell> mmm, chocolate..
[16:29] <ovidiu-florin> no
[16:29] <ovidiu-florin> they just have the first 2
[16:29] <Riddell> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/9-10-release/ too, damn that canoist looks awesome
[16:30] <Riddell> well shrug, first 2 is good enough
[16:30] <Riddell> just mark it done
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> are you sure?
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> ok, then
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ping
[16:32] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: in the footer there are several columns
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> can you please review the pages on the rightmost column?
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> the contents more specifically
[16:35] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/legal/ "Icons are from Oxygen Theme" they're from Breeze are they not?
[16:36] <soee> ovidiu-florin: pong
[16:36] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: maybe put your name and e-mail on http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/contact-us/ for Kubuntu Website ? :)
[16:36] <Riddell> otherwise looks good
[16:39] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: their bot Oxygen and Breeze
[16:39] <ovidiu-florin> whohas copyright for the Breeze theme Icons?
[16:40] <Riddell> 2014 Uri Herrera <kaisergreymon99@gmail.com> and others
[16:41] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: do you have an @Kubuntu.org alias for your email?
[16:41] <ovidiu-florin> can I replace the @ubuntu.org with @kubuntu.org for your email?
[16:41] <ovidiu-florin> on the contact us page
[16:42] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I prefer to use @ubuntu.com just to keep my number of e-mail addresses minimal
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I understand, but... it's the Kubuntu website
[16:43] <soee> ovidiu-florin: as i mentioned before it woudl be good ot import oxygen font:
[16:43] <soee> <link href='http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Oxygen:400,300,700' rel='stylesheet' type='text/css'>
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin> it seems natural to show the @kubuntu email
[16:44] <soee> and add it to headers: font-family: 'Oxygen', sans-serif;
[16:44] <ovidiu-florin> soee: on my todo list
[16:44] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: shrug, kubuntu is part of ubuntu
[16:44] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: don't they point to the same place?
[16:45] <Riddell> probably
[16:45] <Riddell> but the people sending e-mail don't know that
[16:45] <ovidiu-florin> ok, I'll leave it like that
[16:45] <ovidiu-florin> regarding Uri's email
[16:45] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know if it's ok to put it on the site, to make it public like that
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin> I'll put only hs name
[16:46] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: just link to https://github.com/UriHerrera
[16:47] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: just his name, or also "and others" ?
[16:48] <ovidiu-florin> just his name
[16:48] <ovidiu-florin> that's a personal profile
[16:48] <ovidiu-florin> and the repo is not on his account
[16:49] <Riddell> strange spam du jour, wonder what he wants to partnership with https://paste.kde.org/p2eoz02wk
[16:49] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: Feedback please: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/legal/  and http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/contact-us/
[16:49] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: looks lovely
[16:50] <soee> ovidiu-florin: For comments and other issues with this website contact Jonathan Riddell jriddell@ubuntu.com or Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN ovidiu-florin@kubuntu.org.
[16:50] <soee> remove dot here
[16:50] <soee> people might copy your email with dot
[16:50] <Riddell> yeah
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin> soee: done
[16:50] <soee> +1
[16:51] <Riddell> hi jonathan_, nice name
[16:52] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/the-kubuntu-team/ anyone should be added?
[16:53] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ^ is just a draft
[16:53] <ovidiu-florin> I have a business card list layout in ming
[16:53] <ovidiu-florin> mind*
[16:53] <sgclark> I thought I made developer :(
[16:53] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: is this page still usefull? http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/about-us/
[16:54] <sgclark> Philip?
[16:54] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: should I add that?
[16:54] <sgclark> yofel gone missing!
[16:55] <sgclark> WellI worked hard for it, but Riddell s call really
[16:56] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: about-us is not very useful, it can go if you think it's not needed
[16:57] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: link to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+members for a complete list
[16:58] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: and meh too heierarchical, still the first 4 as "Developer"
[16:59] <Riddell> I don't lead because I have a title, I lead because I'm good looking just as sgclark leads because she's good looking
[16:59] <sgclark> lol
[17:00] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: and make it alphabetical by first name
[17:00] <Riddell> heirarchies can cause resentment
[17:01] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[17:01] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: add developer to sgclark ?
[17:01] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yep
[17:01] <ovidiu-florin> soee: check the headers font
[17:01] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: also add a message saying "please come and join us in #kubuntu-devel to help out"
[17:02] <soee> ovidiu-florin: good, but i suggest giving headers black color and increase header sizes
[17:03] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: you're a developer now :P
[17:03] <Riddell> calligra 2.9.2 needed zero changes to .install files, easiest calligra update ever I hope https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/1:2.9.2-0ubuntu1
[17:03] <sgclark> weee!
[17:03] <sgclark> Riddell: oh? I think i can manage that
[17:04] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: just make all those first 4 "developer" and nothing else
[17:04] <sgclark> or you did it lol
[17:04] <Riddell> sgclark: yep all done
[17:04] <sgclark> cool, sorry kde has stolen so much of me lately :(
[17:04] <sgclark> though I guess  in the end it benefits us
[17:05] <Riddell> certainnly will :)
[17:05] <soee> ovidiu-florin: also this big icons on forntpage needs linking 
[17:05] <soee> need
[17:05] <Riddell> meh my upload of calligra-l10n has disappeared
[17:06] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: done
[17:06] <soee> ovidiu-florin: also on frontpage for header with text "TECHNOLOGIES USED" remove the provious font used
[17:06] <soee> it shoudl also use oxygen
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> soee: done
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> soee: you gave me this: http://typecast.com/blog/a-more-modern-scale-for-web-typography
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> how do I make the font size variable on different screens?
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> also the line height?
[17:08] <soee> different screens ?
[17:08] <soee> ovidiu-florin: i suggest darker headers
[17:09] <soee> ovidiu-florin: it was just sample text abot typography, you dont have to follow it
[17:09] <soee> to define different styles for various screen sizes, use media query
[17:10] <soee> sample: @media all and (max-width: 700px) { ... }
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I don't knw what that is
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> soee:  darker color, fixed
[17:11] <Riddell> wgrant: my upload of calligra-l10n disappeared and I wonder if previous ones have too, are you able to track it down?
[17:11] <soee> ovidiu-florin: mdia queries are used to get responsive layouts for example you are using this on teh site http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/themes/advertica-lite/css/bootstrap-responsive.css?ver=0.0.1
[17:11] <Riddell> wgrant: it's has multiple tars in it
[17:12] <soee> the pain here is taht yuo do not use sass or less, so you can't use variables with defined screen breakpoints
[17:13] <soee> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/ - do not use more than one H1 on teh site, use it only for page title , others shoudl be H2 .. h6
[17:14] <ovidiu-florin> done
[17:14] <soee> ovidiu-florin: also page titles text uses odl font, make it use oxygen
[17:15] <soee> ovidiu-florin: the H1 also shoudl be changed on onther pages like http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/support/
[17:15] <soee> news page also for each post title uses H1, it shoudl not
[17:19] <ovidiu-florin> soee: done
[17:19] <soee> ovidiu-florin: also several pages need space content <-> footer, add for example to #footer { margin-top: 40px; }
[17:20] <soee> ovidiu-florin: with those font changes page looks much better now :) i would still increase header sizes
[17:21] <soee> h4 is almost the same as h2 this is wrong, h2 shoudl be much bigger
[17:21] <Riddell> wgrant: ah hah, I had uploaded to saucy(!)
[17:22] <soee> ovidiu-florin: just a thinking: what if you would add plasma5 wallpaper as a backgrund to teh section with page title ? :)
[17:25] <ovidiu-florin> take a look now soee
[17:26] <ovidiu-florin> WHY THE F***K would someone set CSS rules from inside a PHP template that is called via a function that I cannot overide?
[17:28] <soee> ovidiu-florin: hmm, make h2 26 or 28 px font-size
[17:28] <soee> ovidiu-florin: try H1 with 40px font-size
[17:28] <xennex81> dist-upgrade is fetching 1811 files @500K/s I'm going to close and open the vpn connection a few times to see if it bugs out :p
[17:29] <xennex81> brb
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> soee: done
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> I was trying to increase the margin of the title box
[17:29] <soee> ovidiu-florin: please keep in mind, that when changing font sizes for headers, you also need to increase line height
[17:30] <ovidiu-florin> but that's set somewhere in Nirvana, and I can only override it with !important
[17:30] <ovidiu-florin> soee: any numbers in mind?
[17:30] <soee> ovidiu-florin: well line height can't be smaller tahn font size
[17:31] <ovidiu-florin> soee: so the same numbers?
[17:31] <soee> so the line height values shoudl be same as font-size or a few pixels more, depends how much space you want in text that breaks to more than one line
[17:32] <ovidiu-florin> soee: same for body?
[17:32] <soee> ovidiu-florin: the news page shoudl not have title "Category Archives : News"
[17:33] <soee> ovidiu-florin: for body it is good, font size id 16 and line height 22
[17:33] <soee> *is
[17:35] <soee> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/kubuntu-shirts-are-back/ in the content put "Kubuntu Shirts are Back" into h2
[17:35] <ovidiu-florin> news fixed
[17:37] <xennex81> killing (changing) my linke now and then, distupgrade proceeds gracefully.
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I'd remove the featured image form news posts, (from the php template) and don't have a featured image, just set an PLasma 5 image as background to the header, like you said
[17:37] <soee> ovidiu-florin: on frontpage under feature tour icon and text i would change "Our Feature Tour" to somethin like "Explore our system" or "Meet our system"
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> do you agree?
[17:37] <xennex81> my link*
[17:38] <ovidiu-florin> soee: that was just dummy text
[17:38] <xennex81> that WordPress? I was just bugging with it today.
[17:38] <soee> ovidiu-florin: ok, Get help also needs chage so it wont duplicate
[17:38] <xennex81> get_the_post_thumbnail()
[17:38] <soee> ovidiu-florin: the big image above first news ?
[17:39] <soee> ovidiu-florin: if each image would have a nice big picture, it can stay as it is related to latets news
[17:39] <soee> *each post
[17:39] <xennex81> add_filter('post_thumbnail_html, add_dimensions_to_post_thumbnail); blablabla
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> soee: currenlty that image cannot be different for each page unless I do some more hacking
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> so I was looking for an option to have a single image across pages
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> xennex81: are you talking about our website?
[17:41] <soee> ovidiu-florin: im a bit confused what image we are talking about :)
[17:41] <xennex81> PLASMA4 "plasma-desktop" is really slow!!! :(
[17:42] <xennex81> ovidiu-florin: no I'm just not sure if you are :P
[17:42] <xennex81> not sure what you were talking about :)
[17:42] <xennex81> but "featured image" is pretty much WordPress terminology....... hence
[17:42] <ovidiu-florin> soee: go to http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/ and look at the blurry image behing the H1 Community
[17:43] <soee> ovidiu-florin: ah this one, well i woudl use the same for now, just dont know how the plasma wallpaer will fit here
[17:43] <ovidiu-florin> I'll ask ahoneybun_ if he can make one that can repeat horisontally seamlessly
[17:44] <soee> ovidiu-florin: what happend to iages on frontpage ?
[17:46] <soee> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/contribute-to-kubuntu/ H1 -> h2 in content
[17:51] <xennex81> ovidiu-florin: is it supposed to not load any stylesheet?
[17:51] <soee> ovidiu-florin: i would make the kubuntu logo smaller - give it height ~ 36px i think now it is to big
[17:52] <soee> xennex81: it loads them
[17:54] <xennex81> you are using a child theme of advertica light... some browser (all of them? :P) get in trouble when a link is "taken" by some download
[17:56] <ovidiu-florin> xennex81: what are you talking about?
[17:56] <ovidiu-florin> soee: what about the fornt page?
[17:57] <soee> ovidiu-florin: what are you asking exactly about? 
[17:57] <xennex81> trying to load your front page but it is not showing me any css, but it might be due to my link being taken up
 ovidiu-florin: what happend to iages on frontpage ?
[17:59] <soee> ovidiu-florin: i dont see this big image uner navigation nor the scrolling one
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> I removed the paralax
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> and my mistake I removed a template dependecy file
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> fixed
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I don't understand what do you want me to do with the logo
[18:02] <ovidiu-florin> soee: asuming you're talking about this logo: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/logo.png
[18:02] <soee> ovidiu-florin: set to the image height: 36px
[18:02] <soee> do not scale it, just set vai css height
[18:02] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[18:02] <ovidiu-florin> and?
[18:02] <soee> it will be much better with smaller size
[18:02] <soee> visually
[18:03] <soee> ovidiu-florin: @ image on frontpage, image (plasma5 wallpaper) should be just a background, all text shoudl be separate layer
[18:04] <soee> that is my opinion, we shoudl do it similiar to ubuntu front: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[18:09] <soee> ovidiu-florin: on the nes list, make the post titles use Oxygen font
[18:10] <soee> just remove for .post-title a  the font-family
[18:13] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I can't just remove it
[18:13] <ovidiu-florin> I have to override it
[18:14] <soee> you can do .post-title a { font-family: none; }
[18:14] <ovidiu-florin> soee: how do I set background image inline ?
[18:14] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ^^ doesn't work, look
[18:14] <soee> ovidiu-florin: well it doesnt have to be background image, we can just add text layer positioned absolute
[18:17] <soee> ovidiu-florin: ok than do: font-family: inherit;
[18:19] <ovidiu-florin> soee: why can't I also do inherit to the title?
[18:21] <soee> ovidiu-florin: why ? you should set it in class that is added to title
[18:21] <soee> h1.title {font-family: inherit; }
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ^ doesn't work
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> I've tried it
[18:22] <soee> ovidiu-florin: than try to set it to .title {} class
[18:23] <soee> .title {font-family: inherit;}
[18:23] <ovidiu-florin> I don't understand
[18:23] <ovidiu-florin> ah
[18:23] <ovidiu-florin> soee: nope, doesn't work
[18:24] <soee> it should
[18:26] <ovidiu-florin> soee: take a look
[18:28] <soee> strange
[18:29] <ovidiu-florin> ok, so back to the homepage header image
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> I want to set it as a background, but
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> I have this piece of crap: <div class="advertica-image-post"><img alt="advertica-default-slider-image" class="ad-slider-image" width="1585"  src="<?php if(sketch_get_option($advertica_shortname.'_frontslider_stype')) { echo sketch_get_option($advertica_shortname.'_frontslider_stype'); } ?>" ></div>
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> If I replace it with: <div class="Skt-header-image">
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin>     <!-- header image -->
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin>         <div class="advertica-image-post" style="background-image: url("<?php 
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin>         if(sketch_get_option($advertica_shortname.'_frontslider_stype'))
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin>         {
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin>             echo sketch_get_option($advertica_shortname.'_frontslider_stype');
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin>         } ?>""></div>
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin>     <!-- end  header image  -->

[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> it gets broken
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ^*
[18:32] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: why ?
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I've added them both, inspect it now
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> the broken one is the second
[18:33] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: try to replace " with ' in: url("")
[18:34] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: but as i said, you can leave it in img tag
[18:34] <soee_> we just need to position text layer than
[18:34] <soee_> nothing hard to do
[18:36] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: if it is some slider, than it shoudl have optin to add text on images
[18:37] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: done
[18:37] <ovidiu-florin> can you tell me where is the height of the first one set?
[18:37] <soee_> image ?
[18:38] <soee_> it is just original image height
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: nope
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> image is 500px height
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> div is 420 something
[18:39] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: if you want to use it as a background, give it width and height 100% (the background image)
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: to the div?
[18:41] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: image
[18:42] <soee_> so it will cover whole slider container
[18:42] <ovidiu-florin> how do I set the size of a background image?
[18:43] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_background-size.asp
[18:43] <soee_> but it is css3 proerty so not all brower might support it
[18:43] <soee_> we shoudl stick to img tag
[18:46] <xennex81> you guys are being too hasty and too panicky about this. Calm down.
[18:46] <xennex81> ;-).
[18:46] <xennex81> Just my 3 cents lol.
[18:46] <xennex81> haha
[18:46] <xennex81> sorry
[18:46] <xennex81> just my 2 cents.
[18:47] <xennex81> but I can't pause the download in dist-upgrade, I'd think about changing that. I'd change that.
[18:47] <xennex81> just another thing to "impart" to the broken people ;-).
[18:48] <xennex81> the mending people
[18:48] <xennex81> good luck with it in any case
[18:48] <xennex81> I won't be long.
[18:57] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: as this theme uses only bart of twitter bootstrap and very old
[18:57] <soee_> add this class to styles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10732579/
[18:58] <soee_> than you can make images responsive by adding this class to them
[19:02] <ahoneybun_> ovidiu-florin: png
[19:02] <ahoneybun_> pong
[19:03] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun_: can you make an image with Plasma 5 theme (for background) that can fluidly repeat horisontaly?
[19:04] <ahoneybun_> ovidiu-florin: plasma 5 theme as in the default background or the breez color style?
[19:04] <ahoneybun_> *breeze
[19:05] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile -> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/ ?
[19:10] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: we need some space content <-> footer here http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/support/
[19:11] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun_: background
[19:11] <ahoneybun_> oh ok ovidiu-florin the header for the site you mean
[19:12] <ahoneybun_> what happened to the site's banner?
[19:12] <ovidiu-florin> to replace the background for pages like this on the header: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/support/
[19:12] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun_: what do you mean??
[19:13] <ahoneybun_> it looks cut off 
[19:13] <ahoneybun_> like it is pushed to the left
[19:13] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: how is it different from other pages?
[19:14] <ahoneybun_> ovidiu-florin: do you have a size that you need?
[19:14] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: thers no space at the bottom of content section
[19:15] <ahoneybun_> oh featured image
[19:15] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: i think there is something wring with the content inside container
[19:15] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: add to element with class .skepost 
[19:16] <soee_> class: clearfix
[19:16] <ahoneybun_> brb
[19:16] <ahoneybun_> bbl
[19:17] <soee_> lordievader: when top panel is in fixed posiont, change logo top margin to ~ 7px
[19:17] <soee_> will be much better
[19:20] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun_: at least 200px in height
[19:20] <ovidiu-florin> and width infinite :P
[19:23] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: instead of 10px? or instead of 15?
[19:24] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: clearfix does nothing on that
[19:25] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: instead of 10
[19:26] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: how's now?
[19:27] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: nice
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> and the footer space?
[19:28] <soee_> no space
[19:29] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: now?
[19:29] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: +1
[19:32] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: on frontpage teh title tag shouldnt have separator, it should be just: Kubuntu Friendly Computing or Kubuntu - Friendly Computing
[19:33] <ovidiu-florin> lineheight for h2 is not good
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: reduse the browser width untill you see the title on 2 lines
[19:36] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: well h2 has 28px font size and 22px ine height so as has been told before, this is wrong
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> fixed
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> I'm out
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> making a new release of the theme
[19:47] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: does http://paste.ubuntu.com/10732579/ actually do anything?
[19:48] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: yes, resize frontpage to smaller size and see how image behaves
[19:49] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: I see no difference with and without it
[19:49] <ovidiu-florin> am I wearing Beer Googles?
[19:49] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: maybe the theme already adds such styles to slider images
[19:50] <soee_> .advertica-image-post img - 100%
[19:50] <soee_> so yes, more or less
[19:51] <ovidiu-florin> what?
[19:52] <soee_> ah nothing :)
[19:52] <ovidiu-florin> so, leave it or remove it?
[19:52] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: ^
[19:53] <soee_> leave, might be usefull with other images
[19:53] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> soee_ ahoneybun_ https://github.com/ovidiub13/KubuntuAdverticaLightChild/commits/master
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> I'm out
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[20:03] <xennex81> it says network-manager is broken or not fully installed, how can I fix it?
[20:04] <xennex81> the upgrade is stalling on it.
[20:04] <xennex81> minus dot.
[20:04] <xennex81> minus .
[20:05] <xennex81> i may have killed it in some way but I don't remember how.
[20:06] <xennex81> minus dot again
[20:12] <lordievader> soee_: I suppose that was directed at ovidiu-florin ?
[20:12] <soee_> lordievader: what ? :)
[20:13] <lordievader> 03-21:17 < soee_> lordievader: when top panel is in fixed posiont, change logo top margin to ~ 7px
[20:15] <xennex81> Can you help me fix it lordievader? The upgrade stalled on network-manager, and it appears to be a broken package.
[20:15] <xennex81> Sorry if I've been disgruntling at you before
[20:15] <soee_> lordievader: yes :)
[20:15] <lordievader> xennex81: What?
[20:15] <xennex81> .
[20:16] <lordievader> I miss background info, is it in the backlog?
[20:16] <lordievader> xennex81: Ah, what do you use to upgrade?
[20:16] <xennex81> i am doing a dist-upgrade to 15.04 from 14.10 and it is stalling on network-manager
[20:16] <soee_> lordievader: i think he was doing upgrade 14.10 -> 15.04
[20:16] <xennex81> a repo given by Riddell and put in hosts
[20:17] <lordievader> xennex81: How are you doing the dist upgrade?
[20:17] <lordievader> xennex81: do-release-upgrade?
[20:17] <xennex81> but my networkmanager is broken and it may have been broken before due to my own actions, but I don't remember them.
[20:17] <xennex81> via muon-updater
[20:17] <xennex81> it calls do-release-upgrade
[20:17] <lordievader> xennex81: Hmm, is it still running or did it crash?
[20:18] <xennex81> it hug
[20:18] <xennex81> it hung
[20:18] <xennex81> hung
[20:18] <xennex81> there is this /usr/bin/python3 /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-3zr31cx4/vivid --mode=desktop --frontend=DistUpgradeViewKDE
[20:18] <xennex81> .
[20:18] <lordievader> Personally I don't like killing upgraders. How long has it been hanging?
[20:19] <xennex81> but I'm not sure what to do to get it running again.
[20:19] <xennex81> forever
[20:19] <xennex81> i don't like killing it either
[20:19] <lordievader> Meh, kill it.
[20:19] <lordievader> What do your sources.list look like?
[20:19] <ahoneybun_> ovidiu-florin: http://imgur.com/8UUDX7Z
[20:19] <xennex81> but dpkg-reconfigure on network-manager gives me a broken package indication
[20:19] <lordievader> Also, lets move this to #ubuntu+1
[20:19] <ahoneybun_> 2560 width
[20:19] <xennex81> i just want to know how to fix thta
[20:19] <xennex81> that
[20:20] <xennex81> there were some sources disabled by it
[20:20] <lordievader> xennex81: Please join #ubuntu+1
[20:26] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: is it fine for you to report bugs on github?
[20:26] <soee_> in a free time i can pull some merge request 
[20:26] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: can we not edit the upstream muon? so we have to have a special folder to determine it in our distro?
[20:28] <soee_> ahoneybun_: i think we will ned second image (plasma wallpaper) that will be used in slider on frontpage
[20:45] <Riddell> ahoneybun: upstream muon wants the distros to maintain that I think
[20:46] <Riddell> because it is distro specific
[20:46] <ahoneybun> l
[20:46] <ahoneybun> k
[20:47] <ahoneybun> Riddell: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile -> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/ ?
[20:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: not sure
[20:48] <Riddell> it's xdg directory spec
[20:48] <Riddell> we need an equivalent of ~/.local/share/
[20:48] <Riddell> how does /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/ get set?
[20:49] <Riddell> ah we set XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
[20:50] <Riddell> so I guess we need to override XDG_DATA_DIRS
[20:50] <Riddell> ahoneybun: so add a new directory to desktop/etc/X11/Xsession.d/70xdg-kubuntu-dir
[20:50] <Riddell> and put the files in there
[20:50] <ahoneybun> the kcm-about-distrorc is the only file in there Riddell
[20:50] <Riddell> that's a setting file
[20:51] <Riddell> these are data files
[20:51] <Riddell> so different directory
[20:53] <ahoneybun> ok 
[20:54] <ahoneybun> busy with haircut sorry
[20:54] <soee_> hi frecel
[20:54] <soee_> Riddell: ^ [22:51] <frecel> valorie: I have some experience developing with Qt QML, I'm already running Kubuntu 15.04 with plasma 5, and I don't mind writing documentation
[20:54] <frecel> hello
[20:55] <soee_> frecel: do you also do packaging maybe ?
[20:56] <frecel> soee: I actually always wanted to learn some stuff about packaging, I read through some of the debian guides back in the day but that's mostly to prepeare stuff to create a ppa
[20:57] <soee> frecel: if you are interested with helping with docs, valorie would be the right person to talk, if you are interested with some development etc. Riddell would be right choice :)
[20:57] <soee> but you can always get help here from other devs
[20:57] <ahoneybun> Riddell: will that effect the current system so I can do trial and error?
[20:58] <soee> frecel: also testers are welcome, to test new isos, new packages etc :) so there is wide range of things you can get involved
[20:59] <frecel> soee: I would love to help with development. I'm just a hobby dev so there are probably some significant holes in my knowledge
[20:59] <ahoneybun> Riddell: that file has this: XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings"
[20:59] <ahoneybun> the current slideshow for muon is set in the muon package it self
[21:00] <valorie> actually, I'm out of the loop on docs; ahoneybun is the expert
[21:00] <soee> frecel: nice, stay on this channel and if Riddell is out today, he will talk to you a soon as he can :)
[21:01] <ahoneybun> valorie: ?
[21:01] <frecel> soee: awesome, thanks for directing me to the right people
[21:01] <ahoneybun> frecel: hello :)
[21:03] <frecel> ahoneybun: I'm looking for ways to help out with KDE/Kubuntu
[21:04] <ahoneybun> frecel: do you have a KDE Identity account?
[21:04] <frecel> I do not
[21:04] <ahoneybun> here you go :) https://identity.kde.org/index.php?r=registration/index
[21:04] <ahoneybun> so you can log in and help out working on the docs if you wish to help there :)
[21:09] <Riddell> ooh hello frecel 
[21:09] <ahoneybun> Riddell: so make a random dir and link it in that file?
[21:09] <ahoneybun> I would love to have the installation screenshots in many langs
[21:10] <Riddell> ahoneybun: well not random, give it a sensible name :)
[21:10] <ahoneybun> Riddell: what location tho
[21:10] <ahoneybun> XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/discover-kf5?
[21:10] <Riddell> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-share/ or something
[21:13] <ahoneybun> remove the old one or add this one Riddell?
[21:15] <frecel> ahoneybun: I think I managed to type my password wrong twice when I was registering
[21:15] <Riddell> don't remove anything
[21:15] <frecel> ahoneybun: that's a first
[21:15] <ahoneybun> amazing lol
[21:15] <ahoneybun> ok Riddell
[21:16] <ahoneybun> same layout as kde4-profile?
[21:16] <ahoneybun> frecel: let me know when you are done and I'll guide you to the next step
[21:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: same layout as ~/.local/share
[21:16] <Riddell> frecel: always lots to help out with browse http://goo.gl/Chh7uh for bugs or https://trello.com/kubuntu for todo
[21:16] <frecel> ahoneybun: already set up
[21:17] <Riddell> frecel: but I'm afraid I need to go to bed now
[21:17] <Riddell> frecel: do stick around on this channel
[21:17] <frecel> Riddell: no worries, I'll be here
[21:17] <Riddell> bug 1431610 seems nice and easy if you want to make a packaging fix :)
[21:18] <ahoneybun> frecel: the docs are here: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu
[21:19]  * Riddell sleeps
[21:19] <ahoneybun> there is a log in link on the bottom right
[21:19] <ahoneybun> Riddell: noes
[21:19] <ahoneybun> I don't understand the layout thing
[21:19] <ahoneybun> but it can wait
[21:20] <ahoneybun> frecel: check for typos, errors, wording that might be easier for new users and so on
[21:20] <ahoneybun> also if you spoke a different lang that would be awesome as well as we always need translators
[21:22] <frecel> ahoneybun: I'm fluent in polish
[21:23] <ahoneybun> frecel: awesome
[21:24] <soee> frecel: wyśmienicie :D 
[21:24] <ahoneybun> https://userbase.kde.org/Translator_Account
[21:24] <ahoneybun> frecel: ^
[21:26] <frecel> can someone ping me again, I think there is a bug in notifications
[21:26] <soee> frecel: ping
[21:26] <ahoneybun> frecel: are you using konversation?
[21:26] <frecel> ahoneybun: Quassel
[21:27] <ahoneybun> frecel: I know konversation is not showing notifications
[21:28] <soee> ahoneybun: it does
[21:28] <soee> ahoneybun: atleast icon shows up in systray
[21:28] <Sho_> (and you can enable other notifications in the usual Configure Notifications dialog)
[21:28] <soee> +1
[21:29] <ahoneybun> soee: not for me
[21:29] <frecel> http://i.imgur.com/p5CQ3ZY.png
[21:29] <soee> ahoneybun: you are missing some configuration
[21:30] <frecel> this is how my notifications appear, quite high above the panel
[21:30] <ahoneybun> soee: seems
[21:30] <ahoneybun> frecel: I have that at times as well
[21:30] <soee> frecel: i have short talk about it today on #plasma and devs are aware of it
[21:31] <soee> there are some fixes in master, but probably not full fix
[21:31] <soee> *had
[21:32] <frecel> Actually I noticed another thing, Steam notifications appear from the very corner of the screen and overlay the panel, I don't know if you guys would even bother with a bug like this
[21:33] <ahoneybun> frecel: if it is the shell providing the notification it would be upstream I think'
[21:36] <ahoneybun> soee: what does polish look like in english? as in how do I select it in the live dvd?
[21:38] <soee> ahoneybun: what ? 
[21:39] <frecel> ahoneybun: it might be Polski instead of Polish, if I'm getting what you're saying
[21:39] <ahoneybun> soee: I'm trying to get the installer slides in different languages
[21:39] <ahoneybun> frecel: thats it
[21:39] <ahoneybun> thanks
[21:40] <soee> ahoneybun: i think slides arent translated - this is sme bug in ubiquity or something
[21:41] <ahoneybun> there is soee
[21:41] <ahoneybun> in ubiquily
[21:41] <ahoneybun> though it works in beta 2
[21:41] <ahoneybun> I did some changes to the slideshow though
[21:47]  * ahoneybun got some polish installation slides
[21:47] <ahoneybun> though I can't make changes to that without a translator account
[21:47]  * ahoneybun is out for a few
[21:56] <frecel> for some reason KDE UserBase Wiki won't let me log in with my KDE identity
[22:01] <frecel> nvm got my username wrong, that's embarrasing
[22:29] <valorie> ah, nice to see you jump right in, frecel
[22:29]  * valorie was busy in a meeting for awhile
[23:10] <ScottK> Riddell: What was the resolution on the docs path question?  Maybe you could memorialize the result in response to the thread on the ML?