[02:33] Riddell: I've been too busy with $work to have a firm opinion on the docs stuff, but rebuilding everything KDE4 seems like a bad idea. [02:34] It may well be the least bad option though. [08:42] Riddell: ping [09:07] hi soee [09:08] Riddell: hve you seen my message yesterday about update notification massage goes a bit creazy during packages list update ? [09:09] soee: at least they keep you well informed :) [09:15] Good morning. [09:22] soee: what are the annoying popups? [09:22] soee: sddm/nvidia-prime work seems to be still on going [09:24] Riddell: nvidia-prime/sddm does not work [09:24] soee: what happens? [09:25] Riddell: sddm + nvidia-prime + propriety driver = black screen after plymouth (sddm does not start) [09:26] Riddell: sddm + nvidia-prime with intel profile sddm starts but after login desktop freezes [09:26] Riddell: after propriety river adn nvidia-prime were removed, desktop keep freezeing after some seconds, it had something to do in some file on ./config [09:29] hmm, spooky voodoo this stuff is [09:30] d_ed: remember to reply to alberto's patch on sddm :) [09:32] Riddell: ahoneybun_ experiance with nvidia-prime http://paste.ubuntu.com/10729410/ [09:37] Riddell: notifications https://youtu.be/_defBgx7Ubo [09:39] soee: I think you have some System updates available :) [09:40] Riddell: hehe yes, one i downgrded sddm to demonstrate the popup notification when updating packages from terminal :) [09:44] soee: can you report a bug on that? https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=muon&format=guided [09:49] Riddell: updater component? [09:51] soee: notifier I think [09:55] ahoneybun_: do you think you'll be able to "Port Muon Discover featured apps to kf5" ? [09:55] there's also "update/scrap links wiki page" for anyone who wants to be useful :) [09:58] ahoneybun_, yofel: there seems to be a kubuntu docs branch in kde git? should we use that and call the launchpad one dead? http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fsitter%2Fkubuntu-docs.git [09:58] done, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345823 [09:58] KDE bug 345823 in notifier "Packages list update makes notifier spam with messages" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [09:59] thanks soee [09:59] Riddell: np, this isnt some serious issue, just might be a bit annoying when one updates packages crom command line [10:02] d_ed: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/201932142/sddm_0.11.0-0ubuntu7_0.11.0-0ubuntu8.diff.gz sane to add? [10:07] ScottK: we sorted the docs paths a much nicer way :) [10:08] hi Simon_B [10:18] the zsh patch, sure [11:39] sitter: are you about today? [12:45] "Choqok 1.5 released " [12:45] kubotu: newversion choqok 1.5 [12:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1440048 [12:57] Riddell: kinda [12:57] sitter: what think you about moving about-distro to plasma-desktop ? [13:04] this choqok need nicer icon for systray [13:18] Riddell: fine by me [13:19] Riddell: you probably should run that by the VDG though [13:28] It looks as if this: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?66804-Enjoy-the-Progress-of-Kubuntu-15-04-Vivid&p=369829#post369829 is a bug against libreoffice-kde. I could not find a separate component for libreoffice-kde on laumchpad to file a bug there. Is there a better place than simply libreoffice on Launchpad? [13:29] mparillo: launchpad is big and monolithic so it's just libreoffice in launchpad [13:30] mparillo: but that's a bug with the qt4 themeing which is a) upstream and b) unmaintained [13:30] so I think it's best to just say "sorry that's not going to change until someone does the qt5 themeing" [13:31] So no point in filing a bug? Mind if I quote you on the KFN thread? [13:31] go ahead [13:33] Hiyas all [13:37] sitter: I've imported translations for KDE Config Module for Whoopsie KDE Config Driver Manager Kubuntu Debug Installer Kubuntu Notifications Helper [13:43] Riddell: <3 [13:51] and notified ubuntu-translators [14:51] Riddell: my branch on lp are based on harald's on git [14:51] Riddell: also what do you mean port? do you mean work on the banner? [14:53] ahoneybun_: yep, banner [14:55] apt-get source muondicover will give me the sizes? [14:56] ahoneybun_: yeah I guess so [15:05] ok [15:08] Riddell: written in lovely qml [15:09] what apps in kf5 do we want to show case? [15:09] ahoneybun_: krita! kexi! digikam? [15:10] kdeconnect [15:10] it's already on by default [15:10] so no need to advertise it in muon [15:10] ah ok lol [15:10] kdenlive? [15:10] gcompris! [15:11] calligra ? :) [15:11] could work that in soee [15:11] though i prefere LO [15:11] krita and kexi are the best parts of calligra [15:11] ah, ok [15:11] simplescreenrecorder :D [15:12] https://krita.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/user-interface.jpg ? [15:12] did we switch to konversation or quassel still default? [15:13] konversation [15:13] konversation is default [15:13] cool beans [15:13] Riddell: now i check for updates in muon, and this notification i mentioned earlier was rendered 12 times oO [15:13] so worth advertising quassel as the one to keep your presense online [15:14] soee: can't say you weren't informed :) [15:14] no i can't :) [15:14] krita, kexi, kdenlive [15:14] soee: ssr is in a ppa no? [15:15] ahoneybun_: im nt sure [15:15] xennex81: what what? [15:15] need to check [15:15] Riddell: what would be awesome is redo the slideshow in qml [15:15] ahoneybun_: it is qml surely? [15:16] not the ubuntu slideshow [15:16] ahoneybun_: but it hnk yes, i rememebr i was writring do developer to add vivid builds liek a month ago [15:16] muondiscover yes [15:17] Riddell: ^ [15:17] ahoneybun_: go ahead :) [15:19] xennex81: yes any tests and bug reports dirung upgrades are welcome [15:19] any kind of upgrade path from 14.10 to 15.04 you want me to perform? [15:19] there were some issues with baloo i think, but they shoudl be fixed now [15:19] i am going to install ubuntu gnome first though but I'll probably reinstall my system about 5 times [15:20] Riddell: ^ any test needed when upgrading from 14.10 ? [15:20] give or take 5 times [15:20] Riddell: how do I test my changes to muon discover? [15:20] xennex81: add "212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com" to /etc/hosts and run muon-updater and see if you get a notification " [15:21] ahoneybun_: well there's the question :) [15:21] ahoneybun_: old one had files in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/ [15:21] was that for me? [15:22] Riddell: I made changes to muons source [15:22] I don't see a debian dir [15:22] bbl work [15:22] xennex81: i think yes, this wa y you should have notiication about available ditribution upgrade <- Riddell ? [15:22] it says a new version of ubuntu is available [15:23] kubuntu* [15:23] with an upgrade button [15:23] i can hit it see what it does, I just need to make a final backup of some thing and then I can go [15:24] brb [15:26] oh some smal sddm update, but i assume it has nothing to do with nvidia-prime ? [15:30] soee: probably not, it'll be the zsh patch, nvidia-prime has the second half of its patch still needing reviewer [15:33] Riddell: does the updater require anything other than port 80/443? [15:34] cause i'm behind a firewall but the tunnel I use is sloer [15:34] slower [15:35] Riddell: I don't really care which one we use, but IIRC ahoneybun_ has no kde git access? [15:36] gonna eat while my backup runs, gonna hit it afterward [15:38] Riddell: any good ppa to get cmake3 in utopic? my kde ci builds barfing because they want cmake3 [15:39] xennex81: it just uses apt [15:40] sgclark: https://launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/ubuntu/cmake-3.x maybe? [15:40] I just searched at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=cmake [15:41] thanks [16:08] apt always works behind this fw [16:08] i just can't chat (unless I use a web client) [16:09] what happens if I close the link in the meantime (like close the tunnel) what would happen? [16:09] i mean the vpn [16:09] i can check [16:11] mm dunno, it'll keep trying until it comes back? [16:26] lordievader: thank youo [16:27] ahoneybun_: ping [16:27] Riddell: ping [16:28] hi ovidiu-florin [16:28] Riddell: about the pictures from http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/9-04-release/ and http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/9-10-release/ [16:29] can you still get them? [16:29] or mark this as done? and forget about them? [16:29] http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/9-04-release/ looks like it has pictures [16:29] mmm, chocolate.. [16:29] no [16:29] they just have the first 2 [16:29] http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/9-10-release/ too, damn that canoist looks awesome [16:30] well shrug, first 2 is good enough [16:30] just mark it done [16:30] are you sure? [16:30] ok, then [16:30] soee: ping [16:32] Riddell: in the footer there are several columns [16:33] can you please review the pages on the rightmost column? [16:33] the contents more specifically [16:35] ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/legal/ "Icons are from Oxygen Theme" they're from Breeze are they not? [16:36] ovidiu-florin: pong [16:36] ovidiu-florin: maybe put your name and e-mail on http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/contact-us/ for Kubuntu Website ? :) [16:36] otherwise looks good [16:39] Riddell: their bot Oxygen and Breeze [16:39] whohas copyright for the Breeze theme Icons? [16:40] 2014 Uri Herrera and others [16:41] Riddell: do you have an @Kubuntu.org alias for your email? [16:41] can I replace the @ubuntu.org with @kubuntu.org for your email? [16:41] on the contact us page [16:42] ovidiu-florin: I prefer to use @ubuntu.com just to keep my number of e-mail addresses minimal [16:43] Riddell: I understand, but... it's the Kubuntu website [16:43] ovidiu-florin: as i mentioned before it woudl be good ot import oxygen font: [16:43] [16:43] it seems natural to show the @kubuntu email [16:44] and add it to headers: font-family: 'Oxygen', sans-serif; [16:44] soee: on my todo list [16:44] ovidiu-florin: shrug, kubuntu is part of ubuntu [16:44] Riddell: don't they point to the same place? [16:45] probably [16:45] but the people sending e-mail don't know that [16:45] ok, I'll leave it like that [16:45] regarding Uri's email [16:45] I don't know if it's ok to put it on the site, to make it public like that [16:46] I'll put only hs name [16:46] ovidiu-florin: just link to https://github.com/UriHerrera [16:47] Riddell: just his name, or also "and others" ? [16:48] just his name [16:48] that's a personal profile [16:48] and the repo is not on his account [16:49] strange spam du jour, wonder what he wants to partnership with https://paste.kde.org/p2eoz02wk [16:49] Riddell: Feedback please: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/legal/ and http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/contact-us/ [16:49] ovidiu-florin: looks lovely [16:50] ovidiu-florin: For comments and other issues with this website contact Jonathan Riddell jriddell@ubuntu.com or Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN ovidiu-florin@kubuntu.org. [16:50] remove dot here [16:50] people might copy your email with dot [16:50] yeah [16:50] soee: done [16:50] +1 [16:51] hi jonathan_, nice name [16:52] Riddell: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/the-kubuntu-team/ anyone should be added? [16:53] soee: ^ is just a draft [16:53] I have a business card list layout in ming [16:53] mind* [16:53] I thought I made developer :( [16:53] Riddell: is this page still usefull? http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/about-us/ [16:54] Philip? [16:54] sgclark: should I add that? [16:54] yofel gone missing! [16:55] WellI worked hard for it, but Riddell s call really [16:56] ovidiu-florin: about-us is not very useful, it can go if you think it's not needed [16:57] ovidiu-florin: link to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+members for a complete list [16:58] ovidiu-florin: and meh too heierarchical, still the first 4 as "Developer" [16:59] I don't lead because I have a title, I lead because I'm good looking just as sgclark leads because she's good looking [16:59] lol [17:00] ovidiu-florin: and make it alphabetical by first name [17:00] heirarchies can cause resentment [17:01] ok [17:01] Riddell: add developer to sgclark ? [17:01] ovidiu-florin: yep [17:01] soee: check the headers font [17:01] ovidiu-florin: also add a message saying "please come and join us in #kubuntu-devel to help out" [17:02] ovidiu-florin: good, but i suggest giving headers black color and increase header sizes [17:03] sgclark: you're a developer now :P [17:03] calligra 2.9.2 needed zero changes to .install files, easiest calligra update ever I hope https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/1:2.9.2-0ubuntu1 [17:03] weee! [17:03] Riddell: oh? I think i can manage that [17:04] ovidiu-florin: just make all those first 4 "developer" and nothing else [17:04] or you did it lol [17:04] sgclark: yep all done [17:04] cool, sorry kde has stolen so much of me lately :( [17:04] though I guess in the end it benefits us [17:05] certainnly will :) [17:05] ovidiu-florin: also this big icons on forntpage needs linking [17:05] need [17:05] meh my upload of calligra-l10n has disappeared [17:06] Riddell: done [17:06] ovidiu-florin: also on frontpage for header with text "TECHNOLOGIES USED" remove the provious font used [17:06] it shoudl also use oxygen [17:08] soee: done [17:08] soee: you gave me this: http://typecast.com/blog/a-more-modern-scale-for-web-typography [17:08] how do I make the font size variable on different screens? [17:08] also the line height? [17:08] different screens ? [17:08] ovidiu-florin: i suggest darker headers [17:09] ovidiu-florin: it was just sample text abot typography, you dont have to follow it [17:09] to define different styles for various screen sizes, use media query [17:10] sample: @media all and (max-width: 700px) { ... } [17:10] soee: I don't knw what that is [17:10] soee: darker color, fixed [17:11] wgrant: my upload of calligra-l10n disappeared and I wonder if previous ones have too, are you able to track it down? [17:11] ovidiu-florin: mdia queries are used to get responsive layouts for example you are using this on teh site http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/themes/advertica-lite/css/bootstrap-responsive.css?ver=0.0.1 [17:11] wgrant: it's has multiple tars in it [17:12] the pain here is taht yuo do not use sass or less, so you can't use variables with defined screen breakpoints [17:13] ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/ - do not use more than one H1 on teh site, use it only for page title , others shoudl be H2 .. h6 [17:14] done [17:14] ovidiu-florin: also page titles text uses odl font, make it use oxygen [17:15] ovidiu-florin: the H1 also shoudl be changed on onther pages like http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/support/ [17:15] news page also for each post title uses H1, it shoudl not [17:19] soee: done [17:19] ovidiu-florin: also several pages need space content <-> footer, add for example to #footer { margin-top: 40px; } [17:20] ovidiu-florin: with those font changes page looks much better now :) i would still increase header sizes [17:21] h4 is almost the same as h2 this is wrong, h2 shoudl be much bigger [17:21] wgrant: ah hah, I had uploaded to saucy(!) [17:22] ovidiu-florin: just a thinking: what if you would add plasma5 wallpaper as a backgrund to teh section with page title ? :) [17:25] take a look now soee [17:26] WHY THE F***K would someone set CSS rules from inside a PHP template that is called via a function that I cannot overide? [17:28] ovidiu-florin: hmm, make h2 26 or 28 px font-size [17:28] ovidiu-florin: try H1 with 40px font-size [17:28] dist-upgrade is fetching 1811 files @500K/s I'm going to close and open the vpn connection a few times to see if it bugs out :p [17:29] brb [17:29] soee: done [17:29] I was trying to increase the margin of the title box [17:29] ovidiu-florin: please keep in mind, that when changing font sizes for headers, you also need to increase line height [17:30] but that's set somewhere in Nirvana, and I can only override it with !important [17:30] soee: any numbers in mind? === jonathan_ is now known as jjesse [17:30] ovidiu-florin: well line height can't be smaller tahn font size [17:31] soee: so the same numbers? [17:31] so the line height values shoudl be same as font-size or a few pixels more, depends how much space you want in text that breaks to more than one line [17:32] soee: same for body? [17:32] ovidiu-florin: the news page shoudl not have title "Category Archives : News" [17:33] ovidiu-florin: for body it is good, font size id 16 and line height 22 [17:33] *is [17:35] ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/kubuntu-shirts-are-back/ in the content put "Kubuntu Shirts are Back" into h2 [17:35] news fixed [17:37] killing (changing) my linke now and then, distupgrade proceeds gracefully. [17:37] soee: I'd remove the featured image form news posts, (from the php template) and don't have a featured image, just set an PLasma 5 image as background to the header, like you said [17:37] ovidiu-florin: on frontpage under feature tour icon and text i would change "Our Feature Tour" to somethin like "Explore our system" or "Meet our system" [17:37] do you agree? [17:37] my link* [17:38] soee: that was just dummy text [17:38] that WordPress? I was just bugging with it today. [17:38] ovidiu-florin: ok, Get help also needs chage so it wont duplicate [17:38] get_the_post_thumbnail() [17:38] ovidiu-florin: the big image above first news ? [17:39] ovidiu-florin: if each image would have a nice big picture, it can stay as it is related to latets news [17:39] *each post [17:39] add_filter('post_thumbnail_html, add_dimensions_to_post_thumbnail); blablabla [17:41] soee: currenlty that image cannot be different for each page unless I do some more hacking [17:41] so I was looking for an option to have a single image across pages [17:41] xennex81: are you talking about our website? [17:41] ovidiu-florin: im a bit confused what image we are talking about :) [17:41] PLASMA4 "plasma-desktop" is really slow!!! :( [17:42] ovidiu-florin: no I'm just not sure if you are :P [17:42] not sure what you were talking about :) [17:42] but "featured image" is pretty much WordPress terminology....... hence [17:42] soee: go to http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/ and look at the blurry image behing the H1 Community [17:43] ovidiu-florin: ah this one, well i woudl use the same for now, just dont know how the plasma wallpaer will fit here [17:43] I'll ask ahoneybun_ if he can make one that can repeat horisontally seamlessly [17:44] ovidiu-florin: what happend to iages on frontpage ? [17:46] ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/contribute-to-kubuntu/ H1 -> h2 in content [17:51] ovidiu-florin: is it supposed to not load any stylesheet? [17:51] ovidiu-florin: i would make the kubuntu logo smaller - give it height ~ 36px i think now it is to big [17:52] xennex81: it loads them [17:54] you are using a child theme of advertica light... some browser (all of them? :P) get in trouble when a link is "taken" by some download [17:56] xennex81: what are you talking about? [17:56] soee: what about the fornt page? [17:57] ovidiu-florin: what are you asking exactly about? [17:57] trying to load your front page but it is not showing me any css, but it might be due to my link being taken up [17:59] ovidiu-florin: what happend to iages on frontpage ? [17:59] ovidiu-florin: i dont see this big image uner navigation nor the scrolling one [18:01] I removed the paralax [18:01] and my mistake I removed a template dependecy file [18:01] fixed [18:01] soee: I don't understand what do you want me to do with the logo [18:02] soee: asuming you're talking about this logo: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/logo.png [18:02] ovidiu-florin: set to the image height: 36px [18:02] do not scale it, just set vai css height [18:02] ok [18:02] and? [18:02] it will be much better with smaller size [18:02] visually [18:03] ovidiu-florin: @ image on frontpage, image (plasma5 wallpaper) should be just a background, all text shoudl be separate layer [18:04] that is my opinion, we shoudl do it similiar to ubuntu front: http://www.ubuntu.com/ === leyyin_ is now known as leyyin [18:09] ovidiu-florin: on the nes list, make the post titles use Oxygen font [18:10] just remove for .post-title a the font-family [18:13] soee: I can't just remove it [18:13] I have to override it [18:14] you can do .post-title a { font-family: none; } [18:14] soee: how do I set background image inline ? [18:14] soee: ^^ doesn't work, look [18:14] ovidiu-florin: well it doesnt have to be background image, we can just add text layer positioned absolute [18:17] ovidiu-florin: ok than do: font-family: inherit; [18:19] soee: why can't I also do inherit to the title? [18:21] ovidiu-florin: why ? you should set it in class that is added to title [18:21] h1.title {font-family: inherit; } [18:21] soee: ^ doesn't work [18:21] I've tried it [18:22] ovidiu-florin: than try to set it to .title {} class [18:23] .title {font-family: inherit;} [18:23] I don't understand [18:23] ah [18:23] soee: nope, doesn't work [18:24] it should [18:26] soee: take a look [18:28] strange [18:29] ok, so back to the homepage header image [18:30] I want to set it as a background, but [18:30] I have this piece of crap:

[18:30] If I replace it with:

[18:30] [18:30]

if(sketch_get_option($advertica_shortname.'_frontslider_stype')) [18:30] { [18:30] echo sketch_get_option($advertica_shortname.'_frontslider_stype'); [18:30] } ?>"">

[18:31] [18:31]

[18:31] it gets broken [18:31] soee: ^* [18:32] ovidiu-florin: why ? [18:32] soee: I've added them both, inspect it now [18:32] the broken one is the second [18:33] ovidiu-florin: try to replace " with ' in: url("") [18:34] ovidiu-florin: but as i said, you can leave it in img tag [18:34] we just need to position text layer than [18:34] nothing hard to do [18:36] ovidiu-florin: if it is some slider, than it shoudl have optin to add text on images [18:37] soee_: done [18:37] can you tell me where is the height of the first one set? [18:37] image ? [18:38] it is just original image height [18:39] soee_: nope [18:39] image is 500px height [18:39] div is 420 something [18:39] ovidiu-florin: if you want to use it as a background, give it width and height 100% (the background image) [18:41] soee_: to the div? [18:41] ovidiu-florin: image [18:42] so it will cover whole slider container [18:42] how do I set the size of a background image? [18:43] ovidiu-florin: http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_background-size.asp [18:43] but it is css3 proerty so not all brower might support it [18:43] we shoudl stick to img tag [18:46] you guys are being too hasty and too panicky about this. Calm down. [18:46] ;-). [18:46] Just my 3 cents lol. [18:46] haha [18:46] sorry [18:46] just my 2 cents. [18:47] but I can't pause the download in dist-upgrade, I'd think about changing that. I'd change that. [18:47] just another thing to "impart" to the broken people ;-). [18:48] the mending people [18:48] good luck with it in any case [18:48] I won't be long. [18:57] ovidiu-florin: as this theme uses only bart of twitter bootstrap and very old [18:57] add this class to styles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10732579/ [18:58] than you can make images responsive by adding this class to them [19:02] ovidiu-florin: png [19:02] pong [19:03] ahoneybun_: can you make an image with Plasma 5 theme (for background) that can fluidly repeat horisontaly? [19:04] ovidiu-florin: plasma 5 theme as in the default background or the breez color style? [19:04] *breeze [19:05] Riddell: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile -> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/ ? [19:10]