| ali1234 | same result in safe mode | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| ali1234 | known bug reported nearly 2 years ago: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=871908 | 00:42 |
| lubotu3` | Mozilla bug 871908 in Places "Clearing "browsing and download" history does excessive disc IO (due to huge wal file)" [Normal,New] | 00:42 |
| === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ | ||
| knightwise | good morning everyone | 05:45 |
| mapps | morning | 05:45 |
| mapps | sup | 05:45 |
| knightwise | <hey mapps , its friday , work email box exploding ... so i'm glad its weekend :) | 05:46 |
| knightwise | but my raspberry pi 2 should arrive today .. thats good ! :) | 05:47 |
| mapps | ;D | 05:47 |
| mapps | i cant order one;/ | 05:47 |
| mapps | well can but not to here | 05:47 |
| knightwise | realy ? Arent you in the UK ? | 05:48 |
| mapps | nah | 05:49 |
| mapps | not anymore | 05:49 |
| knightwise | where did you move to ? | 05:49 |
| mapps | Gibraltar | 05:50 |
| mapps | and you cant order anything here | 05:50 |
| mapps | every time i go on amazon says 'not avaliable to deliver to gib' | 05:50 |
| mapps | had to order my laptop to spain and my friend brought it into work | 05:50 |
| mapps | i ordered a phone to UK asked my dad to send it here..cost him £46!! and took 2 weeks for me to get it | 05:50 |
| mapps | its like very slow and backwards here | 05:51 |
| knightwise | thats crud :( | 05:52 |
| mapps | yea | 05:52 |
| knightwise | If I order my stuff @ amazon in germany it gets here in about 2 days without hassle | 05:52 |
| mapps | like i could send something to anywhere in europe for way less | 05:52 |
| mapps | but gibraltar isnt europe for post | 05:52 |
| mapps | yet they like to have the benefits of apparently being part of europe due to being a british territory | 05:53 |
| mapps | very very annoying | 05:53 |
| mapps | you're stuck with the rubbish stores here | 05:53 |
| mapps | buy an i3 laptop for the cost of an i7 | 05:53 |
| mapps | or a 42" tv for the cost of a 50" on amazon | 05:53 |
| knightwise | Crud | 05:57 |
| knightwise | We have all the stupid taxes when we order something from the US | 05:57 |
| knightwise | its rediculous | 05:57 |
| knightwise | Damn .. i wish they would get MIR8 working on my Surface Pro | 06:04 |
| knightwise | I would love it if I could switch between a touch interface and a windowed interface on that device | 06:04 |
| mapps | so youre in germany? | 06:14 |
| knightwise | Belgium | 06:19 |
| mapps | AHA | 06:20 |
| mapps | been there | 06:20 |
| mapps | ;D | 06:20 |
| mapps | so you speak dutch | 06:20 |
| mapps | close to german | 06:20 |
| mapps | when ive looked at dutch some words are very similar | 06:20 |
| mapps | ik hev..ik ben | 06:20 |
| mapps | *heb# | 06:21 |
| knightwise | I speak Dutch, French German and English | 06:21 |
| mapps | ;D | 06:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | i speak profanity, swearing with a smidgeon of cursing | 06:46 |
| knightwise | Universal languages eh ! :) | 06:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | and when a piece of hardware ignores those it's time for the hammer | 06:59 |
| knightwise | good morning zmoylan-pi | 07:00 |
| knightwise | What apps do you run on your pi except irc ? | 07:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | newsbeuter for rss feeds | 07:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | nano for text editing | 07:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | a bit of bash | 07:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | a bit of perl | 07:03 |
| knightwise | irssi, newsbeuter, wordgrinder, ttytter, mps-youtube | 07:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | a lot easier not to be distracted when there's no gui | 07:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | i set up ttytter but stoped using it | 07:04 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: correct | 07:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | i might go back to it | 07:04 |
| knightwise | its also my ssh end point | 07:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | i keep meaning to access the pi from outside the home network but my knowledge of keeping it secure is too limited | 07:05 |
| knightwise | good password policy and only signing in via public/privatekey allowed | 07:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | and i also want to upgrade from current pi b to pi 2 | 07:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | then i could access the pi remotely from dumbphone making it a little smarter :-) | 07:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | full linux terminal with a battery life measured in days | 07:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | froma phone with a full qwerty keyboard | 07:08 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: my rasp2 arrives today | 07:10 |
| knightwise | i'm curious if i can just switch out the sd cards from one to the other | 07:10 |
| * zmoylan-pi dons a fake mustache and waits outside knightwise's location to intercept delivery... | 07:10 | |
| zmoylan-pi | well my pi b uses sd card and pi2 uses microsd so not for me | 07:11 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: Ah Crud ! i'll need to get a new card | 07:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | thankfully available at every phone shop for those phones that use them | 07:13 |
| knightwise | agreed | 07:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | the 4gb sd card that came with the maplins pi starter kit i bought is now down to .9gb free. so thinking maybe a 16gb card for new pi 2 | 07:18 |
| knightwise | hmm.. so that will be 16 gig card at list. | 07:18 |
| knightwise | at least. Agreed | 07:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | then maybe use the pi b with camera module as wildlife camera in garden | 07:20 |
| knightwise | is it suitable for outdoor use ? | 07:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | there are cases or make a housing | 07:20 |
| knightwise | ps : are the cases on the pi and the pi2 the same ? No right | 07:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | pi b only has 2 usb ports, b+ and 2 have 4 | 07:21 |
| knightwise | so.. so i'll need to break out the lego | 07:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | like you needed an excuse... | 07:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | remember to drop 1-2 pieces to find at 3am when barefoot walking to the loo | 07:22 |
| * knightwise thinkin he will build a imperial stormtrooper style case | 07:23 | |
| zmoylan-pi | doesn't sound secure, those guys are terrible shots. make a trekkie red shirt case, you know those guys will die to protect it... | 07:23 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: fair point | 07:24 |
| knightwise | one does not take lightly to stormtroopers being mocked in this house | 07:24 |
| knightwise | https://www.flickr.com/photos/knightwise/16337015253/ | 07:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's why they built the death star, it was easier to hit a planet than an individual person they're such bad shots :-P | 07:26 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: you are not welcome in this house :p | 07:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | did you see the death star bass speaker someone was selling on ebay a few years back. it was huge. and amongst the comments was of course 'it's huge' 'cut the chatter red 6' | 07:27 |
| knightwise | Lol | 07:27 |
| knightwise | Ah | 08:40 |
| knightwise | el raspberry pi is here | 08:40 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:30 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon | 10:08 |
| brobostigon | hey knightwise | 10:11 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon , how are you today | 10:11 |
| * knightwise just got his pi2 :) | 10:11 | |
| knightwise | thing looks like heammoroid medication | 10:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | do NOT apply pi2 to haemorroids... | 10:12 |
| brobostigon | not bad, and you? | 10:12 |
| knightwise | ok , Gotta go out and get me a micro sd card and start building a case for the pi2 | 10:13 |
| knightwise | i was wondering , you can run Ubuntu mate 15.04 on the pi2 , but is there also a 'regular' ubuntu server for the pi2 ? | 10:15 |
| brobostigon | :) | 10:31 |
| === dwatkins_ is now known as dwatkins | ||
| * dwatkins wanders in | 12:13 | |
| dwatkins | Did AlanBell's "building Ubuntu on a cluster of Raspberry Pi machines" project go ok? | 12:13 |
| penguin42 | hmm, there's only one cinema around here showing Blade Runner and the choice is between 6pm on Easter Sunday or 8pm on Easter Monday; pretty awful time | 12:30 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diddledan | artanoon | 14:17 |
| * penguin42 hands diddledan a paint brush | 14:31 | |
| * diddledan pains penguin42 | 14:31 | |
| diddledan | paints* | 14:31 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 14:31 |
| Myrtti | bought a colouring book \o/ | 14:33 |
| penguin42 | one of these de-stress trendy ones? | 14:37 |
| Myrtti | yeah | 14:39 |
| Myrtti | I can reuse it as art for my mobile phone case later on | 14:39 |
| Myrtti | I've got one with the clear back, I've got cardboard from Yorkshire Tea pack at the moment. well not the pack, a card they sent me | 14:39 |
| penguin42 | hmm, they do good adverts | 14:43 |
| Myrtti | oh? I don't watch telly so I wouldn't know. Or read magazines. | 14:43 |
| penguin42 | Myrtti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVjiGWUhHnw | 14:46 |
| * penguin42 doesn't drink tea | 14:47 | |
| Myrtti | little urn! | 14:47 |
| penguin42 | that's actually a longer edit than the version I've seen on TV I think | 14:47 |
| Myrtti | nice | 14:48 |
| === ahayzen is now known as ahayzen_ | ||
| === ahayzen_ is now known as ahayzen__ | ||
| === ahayzen__ is now known as ahayzen | ||
| MooDoo | howdy all | 15:42 |
| diddledan | moo | 15:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | *bark* | 15:45 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: you've got to doo a moo for MooDoo | 15:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | would you settle for a harumph? | 15:46 |
| diddledan | yeah, that'll do | 15:46 |
| MooDoo | sounds good to me :D | 15:47 |
| diddledan | when do we get our chocolate eggs? | 15:48 |
| diddledan | I want one now | 15:48 |
| penguin42 | on Tuesday when they go on discount | 15:49 |
| diddledan | lol | 15:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | tis still the season of the discount selection box | 15:50 |
| penguin42 | thing is I don't care about the shape of my chocolate; so I'm not going to pay more for egg/rabbit shaped chocolate | 15:59 |
| x85 | hey | 15:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | ho | 16:00 |
| x85 | i ended up returning the hudl | 16:02 |
| x85 | an irritating issue with the battery put me off the device | 16:06 |
| penguin42 | it ran out? | 16:07 |
| x85 | no despite being plugged into the mains it refused to charge unless turned off | 16:08 |
| penguin42 | hmm, yeh that's not good | 16:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | sounds brokeny | 16:10 |
| x85 | I'm looking for a cheap way to run linux because I'm trying to get away from apple | 16:10 |
| x85 | i can manage about 120 cos apple made me poor | 16:11 |
| penguin42 | x85: The ~£150 chromebooks/laptops ? | 16:11 |
| penguin42 | ah, 120 hmm a bit tight | 16:11 |
| x85 | yea | 16:12 |
| x85 | i have a pi 2 but that doesn't run unity all too well | 16:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | i thought you couldn't install linux on the $150 chromebooks? and they won't be 150 when they get this side of the pond | 16:12 |
| penguin42 | yeh, they'll be at least £150 | 16:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | and when they get to ireland a chunk more | 16:13 |
| penguin42 | x85: I believe there's a Dell equivalent to that x86 tablet that's been made to run Fedora OK | 16:13 |
| x85 | well i could bump to 200 and make and excuse to my wife lmao | 16:14 |
| penguin42 | haha | 16:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | whatever the least favourable exchange rate is plus a few % on top | 16:14 |
| penguin42 | x85: You can get 2nd hand netbooks for ~£100 | 16:14 |
| x85 | penguin42: i've been tempted by that before unless you know of a decent brand | 16:15 |
| x85 | the intel nuc looks cool | 16:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | oxfam do a nice line in refurb 2nd hand laptops with 90 day warranty | 16:15 |
| penguin42 | x85: Actually, yes, you might be able to put together a nuc for that type of price | 16:16 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: Oh, not tried oxfam, I've bought a few things from CEX | 16:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | you can get them with win7 and avoid the uefi nonsense | 16:16 |
| x85 | i doesn't like UEFI | 16:17 |
| x85 | idk i miss my linux freedom | 16:18 |
| x85 | :( | 16:18 |
| x85 | le sigh | 16:41 |
| shauno | I wonder what hardware can actually use tianocore | 16:44 |
| directhex | It's Complicated(tm) | 16:48 |
| directhex | tianocore isn't an entire implementation. you can't use it as-is on real hardware..... but most real-world implementations are tianocore-based | 16:49 |
| directhex | you can get kvm to use tianocore, but it lacks minor details like nvram support, so you can't save any settings or installed os locations | 16:49 |
| directhex | x85: i *wish* i had uefi on my desktop. bios is total 1970s crud | 16:50 |
| directhex | and has 0% to do with freedom vs. not freedom | 16:50 |
| x85 | MacBooks are worse lmao | 16:51 |
| penguin42 | yeh, you've got to differentiate between UEFI and secure/trusted boot - they're completely separate issues | 16:51 |
| directhex | and secure boot as a general concept provides beneficial extra features to the end user | 16:51 |
| x85 | hmm what about combining pi's to run the ubuntu desktop is that possible? | 16:52 |
| penguin42 | no | 16:54 |
| directhex | no. | 16:54 |
| directhex | there are better ARM dev boards than the pi, if that's the route you want to take | 16:54 |
| * penguin42 would expect the Pi2 might have a chance | 16:54 | |
| directhex | Pi is pretty much bottom of the pile | 16:54 |
| * penguin42 notes Pi is the start of pile | 16:55 | |
| directhex | pi only becomes usable via various hacks like a custom wayland compositor and custom browser | 16:55 |
| x85 | i just want a semi cheap machine to run ubuntu | 16:56 |
| directhex | second hand? | 16:56 |
| * x85 *cries* | 16:56 | |
| x85 | not if it can be helped | 16:56 |
| x85 | i want to throw my MBP | 16:57 |
| x85 | lol | 16:57 |
| x85 | why did i fall for the shiny | 16:57 |
| directhex | ebuyer will sell you a laptop for GBP160 | 16:57 |
| penguin42 | so why don't you just install it on your MBP? | 16:57 |
| x85 | penguin42: that feels wrong morally and i don't want to have to mod the boot process | 16:58 |
| directhex | any mbp, regardless of age, has a crazy high resale value | 16:58 |
| penguin42 | x85: You don't need to modify stuff, MBP is just a PC | 16:59 |
| directhex | i'm on a mbp w/ ubuntu right now. | 16:59 |
| directhex | penguin42: with a crap firmware tho | 16:59 |
| directhex | penguin42: and crap components by broadcom | 16:59 |
| penguin42 | directhex: That crap? | 16:59 |
| directhex | penguin42: well the webcam doesn't work, wifi doesn't work after suspend, and wifi barely works pre-suspend | 17:00 |
| directhex | penguin42: and upgrading the osx partition to 10.10 totally screwed with dual-booting | 17:00 |
| penguin42 | impressively screwed up | 17:00 |
| directhex | i "fixed" it, but it now takes 30s longer to boot | 17:01 |
| x85 | it is doable of course but it just doesn't sit right | 17:01 |
| shauno | well, they work, just linux has terribad hardware supprt. it's not a desktop OS. | 17:01 |
| directhex | broadcom fights to stop driver support on linux. | 17:01 |
| x85 | i guess i'll just go to cex | 17:04 |
| m0nkey_ | bah, why does it have to be a public holiday today? | 17:04 |
| m0nkey_ | parts for my PC build are on the island. but wont be delivered until monday. | 17:04 |
| penguin42 | m0nkey_ island? | 17:04 |
| directhex | cex is crazy overpriced for pc stuff. but a cash converters or similar pawn shop might have undervalued stuff | 17:05 |
| penguin42 | yeh cex can be fun when you spot something that's got a good price - but they do a 6month guarantee | 17:06 |
| directhex | ebuyer will sell desktops for GBP150, if you don't want a laptop for GBP160 | 17:06 |
| m0nkey_ | penguin42, heh yeah.. island. Montreal. | 17:07 |
| * m0nkey_ is a brit ex-pat | 17:07 | |
| x85 | ex-pat? | 17:09 |
| x85 | moved out of uk? | 17:09 |
| penguin42 | I was going to joke about you moving out to get some warmth, but but Montreal.... | 17:10 |
| m0nkey_ | lol | 17:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | i dunno, apart from the moose attacks it's probably still more pleasent weather... :-) | 17:12 |
| penguin42 | do you class moose attacks as weather? | 17:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | lots of spittle :-) | 17:24 |
| Myrtti | I fixed my "I need more stuff from Amazon" problem by buying a pack of colouring pencils ^____^ | 18:23 |
| mapps | well thats annoying | 18:43 |
| mapps | ts a holy day so nowhere open..i thought the store would be but reduced hours | 18:43 |
| mapps | thought morrisons would be open till 4/5 | 18:43 |
| SuperEngineer | mapps, they are as far as we know not closing down prior to 4th May... is there something you know that we don't | 18:49 |
| SuperEngineer | & if you do know something - tell their poor underpaid staff! | 18:51 |
| mapps | hah;] | 18:52 |
| mapps | had mcdonalds for lunch gonna have to get a kebab fkr dinner | 18:52 |
| dogmatic69_ | omg http://store.steampowered.com/app/347250/ | 19:15 |
| dogmatic69_ | Many hours spent on that game | 19:15 |
| shauno | odd. I wonder why the publisher have decided to stick pictures of a f117 all over a game called f19 | 19:17 |
| ali12341 | shauno: because when the game was made nobody knew the real codename of the aircraft | 19:18 |
| ali12341 | the later rereleased the same game as f117 | 19:19 |
| shauno | oh the game has it right. but not whoever's rebundled it | 19:19 |
| ali12341 | no, the game was released by microprose under both names back in the day | 19:20 |
| shauno | right, I had f-117 on the amiga | 19:20 |
| ali12341 | "MicroProse released the game on the same day that the United States military first admitted the existence of its F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighter.[2] Before the game's release many had speculated on a missing aircraft in the United States Air Force's numbering system, the F-19. The game was based on an educated guess about what the secret stealth fighter would be like. Subsequent revisions of the game incorporated the actual F-117 as well as | 19:21 |
| shauno | well, I still think it's jarring that the aircraft on the box isn't the one used in their marketting | 19:24 |
| ali12341 | the box... on steamplay? | 19:25 |
| shauno | to be clear, I'm talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19_Stealth_Fighter | 19:25 |
| shauno | you're conflating it with 2.0, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Hawk:_F-117A_Stealth_Fighter_2.0 | 19:26 |
| ali12341 | the "f19" looks almost identical to an f117 because they looked at photos taken by the kind of people who make a hobby out of photographing top secret experimental aircraft | 19:26 |
| shauno | almost identical in that they both have wings? | 19:26 |
| shauno | otherwise one has the face-on profile of a flying saucer, the other looks like a pyramid | 19:26 |
| ali12341 | seems like the game was released with two different covers | 19:27 |
| ali12341 | http://wordofthenerdonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/07/Z0072320.jpg vs http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ybkDh_6XARU/U4rkUipKOmI/AAAAAAAAAck/fIz9jncUYY0/s1600/ebay1.jpg | 19:28 |
| ali12341 | yeah so i just don't get where you're seeing a f117 on a f19 cover | 19:48 |
| ali12341 | anyway, these were really good games back in the day | 19:48 |
| ali12341 | pretty much the perfect balance between arcade fun and simulation | 19:48 |
| ali12341 | someone should remake them with nicer graphics | 19:48 |
| shauno | right, that's why I was complaining about it being a different aircraft shown in the marketting (on dogmatic's link) | 20:01 |
| shauno | the video, the headshot, don't use the same aircraft shown in-game, on the box, etc | 20:01 |
| foobarry | guys, who's tried the arc welder thing to run android apps from chrome!?! | 20:11 |
| foobarry | its great | 20:11 |
| foobarry | running evernote atm | 20:14 |
| daftykins | o0 | 20:32 |
| daftykins | in lieu of a real android device? | 20:35 |
| foobarry | complements it | 20:36 |
| foobarry | because evernote on linux sucks | 20:36 |
| foobarry | the web interface sucks | 20:37 |
| foobarry | and wine does too | 20:37 |
| * zmoylan-pi misses the palm os memo app with desktop syncing | 20:37 | |
| zmoylan-pi | these days i use a text file on dropbox and have it favourited on tablet | 20:39 |
| foobarry | i'm going whole hog lately | 20:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | hmmmmm, bacon | 20:40 |
| foobarry | taking photos of things and sharing other notes for collab etc | 20:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | i take loads of pics but leave the pics on the phone and just refer to tham as i need them | 20:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | apart from those put up on twitter | 20:41 |
| foobarry | i write shopping lists and look at them while in front of the things | 20:42 |
| foobarry | like in b&q etc | 20:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | i just throw them into memopad on nokia dumbphone as that will be in my pocket as i listen to radio/mp3s on it while out and about | 20:43 |
| foobarry | microserver going cheap http://www.ebuyer.com/517760-hp-proliant-gen8-g1610t-microserver-712317-421 | 20:43 |
| daftykins | oh ebuyer, don't even list the spec | 20:48 |
| Myrtti | https://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/16401104064/ simmost sitte | 21:10 |
| Myrtti | ie. "and that is how the cookie crumbles" | 21:10 |
| diddledan | Myrtti: that's pretty | 21:11 |
| Myrtti | I see now why they've printed the pattern only on one side of the page | 21:12 |
| Myrtti | printing on the next page is transferred on the back of the page being coloured because of the pressure | 21:13 |
| dogmatic69_ | ali12341: the graphics is on par with minecraft :P | 21:41 |
| mapps | time to go get some dinner;D | 23:00 |
| x85 | hi hi | 23:07 |
| daftykins | oh hello again | 23:09 |
| x85 | daftykins: hey hows you | 23:18 |
| daftykins | not bad ta, yourself? | 23:19 |
| x85 | not bad i ended up taking the hull back to tesco | 23:21 |
| daftykins | ah right | 23:22 |
| x85 | charging issues | 23:23 |
| daftykins | mmm that was a bit of a drawback | 23:23 |
| x85 | that and its still running 4.4.2? | 23:24 |
| daftykins | i think that's why it's so cheap | 23:25 |
| daftykins | no future :D | 23:26 |
| x85 | lol | 23:28 |
| x85 | i hate manufactures that do that 1 or 2 updates then nada | 23:28 |
| daftykins | do the hudls even get any at all? | 23:30 |
| x85 | im not sure | 23:31 |
| daftykins | truth is the constant version update culture doesn't actually gain much other than bragging rights | 23:32 |
| x85 | yea | 23:34 |
| daftykins | as long as security fixes are backported anywho | 23:35 |
| x85 | i guess android isn't really a major thing for me | 23:36 |
| daftykins | i'm ok with it on my phone but that's about as far as it goes :> | 23:37 |
| x85 | i would indeed like to see a native ubuntu slab | 23:39 |
| * penguin42 still assumes it's possible to get a hudl to run ubuntu | 23:40 | |
| x85 | probably is but i don't want to wait lol | 23:41 |
| x85 | i don't care if all i have is a terminal | 23:42 |
| x85 | lol | 23:42 |
| daftykins | tends to be best to buy things that are capable of something, not before they are :> | 23:42 |
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