[00:01] same result in safe mode [00:42] known bug reported nearly 2 years ago: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=871908 [00:42] Mozilla bug 871908 in Places "Clearing "browsing and download" history does excessive disc IO (due to huge wal file)" [Normal,New] === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ [05:45] good morning everyone [05:45] morning [05:45] sup [05:46] but my raspberry pi 2 should arrive today .. thats good ! :) [05:47] ;D [05:47] i cant order one;/ [05:47] well can but not to here [05:48] realy ? Arent you in the UK ? [05:49] nah [05:49] not anymore [05:49] where did you move to ? [05:50] Gibraltar [05:50] and you cant order anything here [05:50] every time i go on amazon says 'not avaliable to deliver to gib' [05:50] had to order my laptop to spain and my friend brought it into work [05:50] i ordered a phone to UK asked my dad to send it here..cost him £46!! and took 2 weeks for me to get it [05:51] its like very slow and backwards here [05:52] thats crud :( [05:52] yea [05:52] If I order my stuff @ amazon in germany it gets here in about 2 days without hassle [05:52] like i could send something to anywhere in europe for way less [05:52] but gibraltar isnt europe for post [05:53] yet they like to have the benefits of apparently being part of europe due to being a british territory [05:53] very very annoying [05:53] you're stuck with the rubbish stores here [05:53] buy an i3 laptop for the cost of an i7 [05:53] or a 42" tv for the cost of a 50" on amazon [05:57] Crud [05:57] We have all the stupid taxes when we order something from the US [05:57] its rediculous [06:04] Damn .. i wish they would get MIR8 working on my Surface Pro [06:04] I would love it if I could switch between a touch interface and a windowed interface on that device [06:14] so youre in germany? [06:19] Belgium [06:20] AHA [06:20] been there [06:20] ;D [06:20] so you speak dutch [06:20] close to german [06:20] when ive looked at dutch some words are very similar [06:20] ik hev..ik ben [06:21] *heb# [06:21] I speak Dutch, French German and English [06:21] ;D [06:46] i speak profanity, swearing with a smidgeon of cursing [06:57] Universal languages eh ! :) [06:59] and when a piece of hardware ignores those it's time for the hammer [07:00] good morning zmoylan-pi [07:00] What apps do you run on your pi except irc ? [07:03] newsbeuter for rss feeds [07:03] nano for text editing [07:03] a bit of bash [07:03] a bit of perl [07:03] irssi, newsbeuter, wordgrinder, ttytter, mps-youtube [07:04] a lot easier not to be distracted when there's no gui [07:04] i set up ttytter but stoped using it [07:04] zmoylan-pi: correct [07:04] i might go back to it [07:04] its also my ssh end point [07:05] i keep meaning to access the pi from outside the home network but my knowledge of keeping it secure is too limited [07:06] good password policy and only signing in via public/privatekey allowed [07:06] and i also want to upgrade from current pi b to pi 2 [07:07] then i could access the pi remotely from dumbphone making it a little smarter :-) [07:07] full linux terminal with a battery life measured in days [07:08] froma phone with a full qwerty keyboard [07:10] zmoylan-pi: my rasp2 arrives today [07:10] i'm curious if i can just switch out the sd cards from one to the other [07:10] * zmoylan-pi dons a fake mustache and waits outside knightwise's location to intercept delivery... [07:11] well my pi b uses sd card and pi2 uses microsd so not for me [07:12] zmoylan-pi: Ah Crud ! i'll need to get a new card [07:13] thankfully available at every phone shop for those phones that use them [07:15] agreed [07:18] the 4gb sd card that came with the maplins pi starter kit i bought is now down to .9gb free. so thinking maybe a 16gb card for new pi 2 [07:18] hmm.. so that will be 16 gig card at list. [07:18] at least. Agreed [07:20] then maybe use the pi b with camera module as wildlife camera in garden [07:20] is it suitable for outdoor use ? [07:20] there are cases or make a housing [07:20] ps : are the cases on the pi and the pi2 the same ? No right [07:21] pi b only has 2 usb ports, b+ and 2 have 4 [07:21] so.. so i'll need to break out the lego [07:21] like you needed an excuse... [07:22] remember to drop 1-2 pieces to find at 3am when barefoot walking to the loo [07:23] * knightwise thinkin he will build a imperial stormtrooper style case [07:23] doesn't sound secure, those guys are terrible shots. make a trekkie red shirt case, you know those guys will die to protect it... [07:24] zmoylan-pi: fair point [07:24] one does not take lightly to stormtroopers being mocked in this house [07:25] https://www.flickr.com/photos/knightwise/16337015253/ [07:26] that's why they built the death star, it was easier to hit a planet than an individual person they're such bad shots :-P [07:27] zmoylan-pi: you are not welcome in this house :p [07:27] did you see the death star bass speaker someone was selling on ebay a few years back. it was huge. and amongst the comments was of course 'it's huge' 'cut the chatter red 6' [07:27] Lol [08:40] Ah [08:40] el raspberry pi is here [09:30] morning boys and girls. [10:08] hey brobostigon [10:11] hey knightwise [10:11] hey brobostigon , how are you today [10:11] * knightwise just got his pi2 :) [10:11] thing looks like heammoroid medication [10:12] do NOT apply pi2 to haemorroids... [10:12] not bad, and you? [10:13] ok , Gotta go out and get me a micro sd card and start building a case for the pi2 [10:15] i was wondering , you can run Ubuntu mate 15.04 on the pi2 , but is there also a 'regular' ubuntu server for the pi2 ? [10:31] :) === dwatkins_ is now known as dwatkins [12:13] * dwatkins wanders in [12:13] Did AlanBell's "building Ubuntu on a cluster of Raspberry Pi machines" project go ok? [12:30] hmm, there's only one cinema around here showing Blade Runner and the choice is between 6pm on Easter Sunday or 8pm on Easter Monday; pretty awful time === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [14:17] artanoon [14:31] * penguin42 hands diddledan a paint brush [14:31] * diddledan pains penguin42 [14:31] paints* [14:31] hmm [14:33] bought a colouring book \o/ [14:37] one of these de-stress trendy ones? [14:39] yeah [14:39] I can reuse it as art for my mobile phone case later on [14:39] I've got one with the clear back, I've got cardboard from Yorkshire Tea pack at the moment. well not the pack, a card they sent me [14:43] hmm, they do good adverts [14:43] oh? I don't watch telly so I wouldn't know. Or read magazines. [14:46] Myrtti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVjiGWUhHnw [14:47] * penguin42 doesn't drink tea [14:47] little urn! [14:47] that's actually a longer edit than the version I've seen on TV I think [14:48] nice === ahayzen is now known as ahayzen_ === ahayzen_ is now known as ahayzen__ === ahayzen__ is now known as ahayzen [15:42] howdy all [15:42] moo [15:45] *bark* [15:45] zmoylan-pi: you've got to doo a moo for MooDoo [15:46] would you settle for a harumph? [15:46] yeah, that'll do [15:47] sounds good to me :D [15:48] when do we get our chocolate eggs? [15:48] I want one now [15:49] on Tuesday when they go on discount [15:49] lol [15:50] tis still the season of the discount selection box [15:59] thing is I don't care about the shape of my chocolate; so I'm not going to pay more for egg/rabbit shaped chocolate [15:59] hey [16:00] ho [16:02] i ended up returning the hudl [16:06] an irritating issue with the battery put me off the device [16:07] it ran out? [16:08] no despite being plugged into the mains it refused to charge unless turned off [16:09] hmm, yeh that's not good [16:10] sounds brokeny [16:10] I'm looking for a cheap way to run linux because I'm trying to get away from apple [16:11] i can manage about 120 cos apple made me poor [16:11] x85: The ~£150 chromebooks/laptops ? [16:11] ah, 120 hmm a bit tight [16:12] yea [16:12] i have a pi 2 but that doesn't run unity all too well [16:12] i thought you couldn't install linux on the $150 chromebooks? and they won't be 150 when they get this side of the pond [16:13] yeh, they'll be at least £150 [16:13] and when they get to ireland a chunk more [16:13] x85: I believe there's a Dell equivalent to that x86 tablet that's been made to run Fedora OK [16:14] well i could bump to 200 and make and excuse to my wife lmao [16:14] haha [16:14] whatever the least favourable exchange rate is plus a few % on top [16:14] x85: You can get 2nd hand netbooks for ~£100 [16:15] penguin42: i've been tempted by that before unless you know of a decent brand [16:15] the intel nuc looks cool [16:15] oxfam do a nice line in refurb 2nd hand laptops with 90 day warranty [16:16] x85: Actually, yes, you might be able to put together a nuc for that type of price [16:16] zmoylan-pi: Oh, not tried oxfam, I've bought a few things from CEX [16:16] you can get them with win7 and avoid the uefi nonsense [16:17] i doesn't like UEFI [16:18] idk i miss my linux freedom [16:18] :( [16:41] le sigh [16:44] I wonder what hardware can actually use tianocore [16:48] It's Complicated(tm) [16:49] tianocore isn't an entire implementation. you can't use it as-is on real hardware..... but most real-world implementations are tianocore-based [16:49] you can get kvm to use tianocore, but it lacks minor details like nvram support, so you can't save any settings or installed os locations [16:50] x85: i *wish* i had uefi on my desktop. bios is total 1970s crud [16:50] and has 0% to do with freedom vs. not freedom [16:51] MacBooks are worse lmao [16:51] yeh, you've got to differentiate between UEFI and secure/trusted boot - they're completely separate issues [16:51] and secure boot as a general concept provides beneficial extra features to the end user [16:52] hmm what about combining pi's to run the ubuntu desktop is that possible? [16:54] no [16:54] no. [16:54] there are better ARM dev boards than the pi, if that's the route you want to take [16:54] * penguin42 would expect the Pi2 might have a chance [16:54] Pi is pretty much bottom of the pile [16:55] * penguin42 notes Pi is the start of pile [16:55] pi only becomes usable via various hacks like a custom wayland compositor and custom browser [16:56] i just want a semi cheap machine to run ubuntu [16:56] second hand? [16:56] * x85 *cries* [16:56] not if it can be helped [16:57] i want to throw my MBP [16:57] lol [16:57] why did i fall for the shiny [16:57] ebuyer will sell you a laptop for GBP160 [16:57] so why don't you just install it on your MBP? [16:58] penguin42: that feels wrong morally and i don't want to have to mod the boot process [16:58] any mbp, regardless of age, has a crazy high resale value [16:59] x85: You don't need to modify stuff, MBP is just a PC [16:59] i'm on a mbp w/ ubuntu right now. [16:59] penguin42: with a crap firmware tho [16:59] penguin42: and crap components by broadcom [16:59] directhex: That crap? [17:00] penguin42: well the webcam doesn't work, wifi doesn't work after suspend, and wifi barely works pre-suspend [17:00] penguin42: and upgrading the osx partition to 10.10 totally screwed with dual-booting [17:00] impressively screwed up [17:01] i "fixed" it, but it now takes 30s longer to boot [17:01] it is doable of course but it just doesn't sit right [17:01] well, they work, just linux has terribad hardware supprt. it's not a desktop OS. [17:01] broadcom fights to stop driver support on linux. [17:04] i guess i'll just go to cex [17:04] bah, why does it have to be a public holiday today? [17:04] parts for my PC build are on the island. but wont be delivered until monday. [17:04] m0nkey_ island? [17:05] cex is crazy overpriced for pc stuff. but a cash converters or similar pawn shop might have undervalued stuff [17:06] yeh cex can be fun when you spot something that's got a good price - but they do a 6month guarantee [17:06] ebuyer will sell desktops for GBP150, if you don't want a laptop for GBP160 [17:07] penguin42, heh yeah.. island. Montreal. [17:07] * m0nkey_ is a brit ex-pat [17:09] ex-pat? [17:09] moved out of uk? [17:10] I was going to joke about you moving out to get some warmth, but but Montreal.... [17:10] lol [17:12] i dunno, apart from the moose attacks it's probably still more pleasent weather... :-) [17:13] do you class moose attacks as weather? [17:24] lots of spittle :-) [18:23] I fixed my "I need more stuff from Amazon" problem by buying a pack of colouring pencils ^____^ [18:43] well thats annoying [18:43] ts a holy day so nowhere open..i thought the store would be but reduced hours [18:43] thought morrisons would be open till 4/5 [18:49] mapps, they are as far as we know not closing down prior to 4th May... is there something you know that we don't [18:51] & if you do know something - tell their poor underpaid staff! [18:52] hah;] [18:52] had mcdonalds for lunch gonna have to get a kebab fkr dinner [19:15] omg http://store.steampowered.com/app/347250/ [19:15] Many hours spent on that game [19:17] odd. I wonder why the publisher have decided to stick pictures of a f117 all over a game called f19 [19:18] shauno: because when the game was made nobody knew the real codename of the aircraft [19:19] the later rereleased the same game as f117 [19:19] oh the game has it right. but not whoever's rebundled it [19:20] no, the game was released by microprose under both names back in the day [19:20] right, I had f-117 on the amiga [19:21] "MicroProse released the game on the same day that the United States military first admitted the existence of its F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighter.[2] Before the game's release many had speculated on a missing aircraft in the United States Air Force's numbering system, the F-19. The game was based on an educated guess about what the secret stealth fighter would be like. Subsequent revisions of the game incorporated the actual F-117 as well as [19:24] well, I still think it's jarring that the aircraft on the box isn't the one used in their marketting [19:25] the box... on steamplay? [19:25] to be clear, I'm talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19_Stealth_Fighter [19:26] you're conflating it with 2.0, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Hawk:_F-117A_Stealth_Fighter_2.0 [19:26] the "f19" looks almost identical to an f117 because they looked at photos taken by the kind of people who make a hobby out of photographing top secret experimental aircraft [19:26] almost identical in that they both have wings? [19:26] otherwise one has the face-on profile of a flying saucer, the other looks like a pyramid [19:27] seems like the game was released with two different covers [19:28] http://wordofthenerdonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/07/Z0072320.jpg vs http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ybkDh_6XARU/U4rkUipKOmI/AAAAAAAAAck/fIz9jncUYY0/s1600/ebay1.jpg [19:48] yeah so i just don't get where you're seeing a f117 on a f19 cover [19:48] anyway, these were really good games back in the day [19:48] pretty much the perfect balance between arcade fun and simulation [19:48] someone should remake them with nicer graphics [20:01] right, that's why I was complaining about it being a different aircraft shown in the marketting (on dogmatic's link) [20:01] the video, the headshot, don't use the same aircraft shown in-game, on the box, etc [20:11] guys, who's tried the arc welder thing to run android apps from chrome!?! [20:11] its great [20:14] running evernote atm [20:32] o0 [20:35] in lieu of a real android device? [20:36] complements it [20:36] because evernote on linux sucks [20:37] the web interface sucks [20:37] and wine does too [20:37] * zmoylan-pi misses the palm os memo app with desktop syncing [20:39] these days i use a text file on dropbox and have it favourited on tablet [20:40] i'm going whole hog lately [20:40] hmmmmm, bacon [20:40] taking photos of things and sharing other notes for collab etc [20:41] i take loads of pics but leave the pics on the phone and just refer to tham as i need them [20:41] apart from those put up on twitter [20:42] i write shopping lists and look at them while in front of the things [20:42] like in b&q etc [20:43] i just throw them into memopad on nokia dumbphone as that will be in my pocket as i listen to radio/mp3s on it while out and about [20:43] microserver going cheap http://www.ebuyer.com/517760-hp-proliant-gen8-g1610t-microserver-712317-421 [20:48] oh ebuyer, don't even list the spec [21:10] https://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/16401104064/ simmost sitte [21:10] ie. "and that is how the cookie crumbles" [21:11] Myrtti: that's pretty [21:12] I see now why they've printed the pattern only on one side of the page [21:13] printing on the next page is transferred on the back of the page being coloured because of the pressure [21:41] ali12341: the graphics is on par with minecraft :P [23:00] time to go get some dinner;D [23:07] hi hi [23:09] oh hello again [23:18] daftykins: hey hows you [23:19] not bad ta, yourself? [23:21] not bad i ended up taking the hull back to tesco [23:22] ah right [23:23] charging issues [23:23] mmm that was a bit of a drawback [23:24] that and its still running 4.4.2? [23:25] i think that's why it's so cheap [23:26] no future :D [23:28] lol [23:28] i hate manufactures that do that 1 or 2 updates then nada [23:30] do the hudls even get any at all? [23:31] im not sure [23:32] truth is the constant version update culture doesn't actually gain much other than bragging rights [23:34] yea [23:35] as long as security fixes are backported anywho [23:36] i guess android isn't really a major thing for me [23:37] i'm ok with it on my phone but that's about as far as it goes :> [23:39] i would indeed like to see a native ubuntu slab [23:40] * penguin42 still assumes it's possible to get a hudl to run ubuntu [23:41] probably is but i don't want to wait lol [23:42] i don't care if all i have is a terminal [23:42] lol [23:42] tends to be best to buy things that are capable of something, not before they are :>