| greg-g | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55rtXg0ZsLE | 04:18 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | ruh roh | 04:19 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: heh guess what | 04:19 |
| greg-g | what's up? | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: they've hired a product manager for my team's stuff | 04:20 |
| greg-g | yay? | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | so now to figureout wtf that means and hope that it's sane | 04:20 |
| greg-g | (I want one for my team so bad) | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | yea, everyone talks up product managers and how they're awesome sauce | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | but since we've not had one for the last year kind of hoping I'll figure out how to let go of bits of things to him | 04:21 |
| greg-g | I'm just at the point (10 people, 3 distinct main areas of focus) where I could use the help | 04:21 |
| rick_h_ | and that video is a bit creepy | 04:21 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 04:21 |
| greg-g | :) | 04:21 |
| rick_h_ | I've got a really awesome co-lead that helps a ton on my end | 04:21 |
| greg-g | technical co-lead? | 04:22 |
| rick_h_ | yea, technically I lead one of of 6 and he leads the other team of 4 and we coordinate with UX team (5) and another tech team under a different mgr (4) | 04:22 |
| rick_h_ | so the two of us juggle/manage the project together pretty well | 04:22 |
| greg-g | interesting | 04:22 |
| greg-g | that's kinda neat | 04:23 |
| greg-g | are those 5 UX all for those 10 (14?) devs? | 04:23 |
| rick_h_ | well, we've got one main UX, a visual person, and two junior folks they're hiring | 04:23 |
| rick_h_ | and then their manager | 04:23 |
| rick_h_ | who manages more of them, but we work (well will work) with those 4 | 04:23 |
| greg-g | nice | 04:24 |
| greg-g | I mean, you have a real user-facing product | 04:24 |
| greg-g | I don't :) | 04:24 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 04:24 |
| greg-g | (in the traditional sense, of course, our engineering staff are usrs, but not the same) | 04:24 |
| rick_h_ | right, that internal vs external thing | 04:24 |
| rick_h_ | it's one thing I didn't like about my last job, we weren't the product but a cost | 04:25 |
| rick_h_ | which changes the dynamic a bit there | 04:25 |
| greg-g | yeah, my team is all cost | 04:25 |
| rick_h_ | but important cost! :) | 04:25 |
| greg-g | without it shit won't be pushed :) | 04:26 |
| greg-g | alright, bed time for me, gotta be up at 5:45 | 04:27 |
| rick_h_ | ouch, enjoy | 04:27 |
| cmaloney | Morning and all that. | 14:27 |
| rick_h_ | morn | 14:28 |
| _stink_ | yo | 14:35 |
| greg-g | yo yo | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | yo yo yo | 15:04 |
| ColonelPanic001 | .. | 16:29 |
| cmaloney | Yay, apparently someone breached Biggby's loyalty card system | 17:24 |
| rick_h_ | wheee | 17:26 |
| _stink_ | you may be bad luck in that regard, cmaloney | 17:28 |
| cmaloney | I hope not | 17:29 |
| cmaloney | Though JoDee used her card at Biggby today so we'll see if that causes problems. | 17:29 |
| jonathan_ | that sucks | 17:30 |
| jonathan_ | do you have a link to that breach cmaloney? | 17:30 |
| cmaloney | jonathan_: I got a note from Biggby proper | 17:30 |
| cmaloney | Not sure if there's a link | 17:30 |
| === jonathan_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| jjesse | cmaloney: hrmm will have to check my email then | 17:30 |
| cmaloney | At the very least they didn't say "hacker" or "cracker" | 17:31 |
| cmaloney | and used the term "criminal" | 17:31 |
| cmaloney | ++ | 17:31 |
| jjesse | good for them, no notification in my inbox | 17:32 |
| cmaloney | JoDee just got one | 17:43 |
| cmaloney | so they may be delayed | 17:43 |
| rick_h_ | let me stand by my 'never participate in any loyalty program ever' stance | 17:45 |
| gamerchick02 | what did JoDee just get? sorry i was out | 17:45 |
| gamerchick02 | rick_h_ i participate in mperks *shrug* | 17:45 |
| cmaloney | MPerks is awesome | 17:46 |
| gamerchick02 | mperks is. their app kind of sucks though | 17:46 |
| cmaloney | That's OK, apparently someone broke into change.org | 17:46 |
| rick_h_ | what is mperks? | 17:47 |
| gamerchick02 | it's gotten better | 17:47 |
| gamerchick02 | mperks is Meijer digital coupons | 17:47 |
| cmaloney | so they'll know that I signed up to abolish DST | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | oh, yea I go to meijer because they don't pressure the program like kroger does | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | damn evil place | 17:47 |
| cmaloney | M-Perks is acknowledging that Meijer already tracks your ass and gives them explicit permission | 17:47 |
| gamerchick02 | Kroger, blech | 17:47 |
| cmaloney | We've managed to bet $$ from them | 17:47 |
| cmaloney | Kroger can DIAF | 17:47 |
| gamerchick02 | agree!! | 17:48 |
| gamerchick02 | they cost too much and are wholly inconvenient. | 17:48 |
| gamerchick02 | https://amysramblings.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/back-to-ubuntu/ dunno if anyone's read my little writeup of the XPS 13, but there it is. | 17:50 |
| cmaloney | That's part of the reason I stopped going to Speedway: Their stupid video monitors | 17:50 |
| gamerchick02 | meh, i ignore them | 17:50 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm like, desensitized to commercials | 17:50 |
| gamerchick02 | :-P | 17:50 |
| greg-g | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3693 | 18:00 |
| gamerchick02 | good comic. i love SMBC | 18:51 |
| gamerchick02 | oh no. i'm browsing amazon again | 23:35 |
| derekv | remember when people used to go to the mall to hang out? | 23:49 |
| gamerchick02 | yes. | 23:50 |
| gamerchick02 | it was a *thing* when i was in middle and high school | 23:50 |
| gamerchick02 | now i don't go to the mall unless i need something specific. | 23:50 |
| derekv | i like to set up servers but i don't have any good way of keeping them from bitrotting or maintaining them or monitoring them or remembering how I set them up or that I set them up | 23:51 |
| derekv | until suddenly i remember one of them and it kills a weekend getting it running again then repeat | 23:51 |
| derekv | extreme futility | 23:51 |
| greg-g | puppet :) | 23:52 |
| greg-g | or whatever config management tool you prefer | 23:52 |
| derekv | i just worry that i'd use puppet then the next cycle would come around and puppet (or whatever i used) would be abandon and/or whatever scripts i created would be worthless | 23:53 |
| jrwren | haha. the mall. | 23:53 |
| jrwren | i go to the mall to just walk around sometimes. | 23:53 |
| jrwren | derekv: I just don't setup servers anymore. I consider them ephemeral. | 23:53 |
| jrwren | derekv: If i cannot replace it with a new instance in 5-15min, I have failed. | 23:54 |
| jrwren | derekv: at arbor we had many roll out in 2-3 minutes | 23:54 |
| derekv | i guess they are a little like goldfish... which is maybe evidence why i shouldn't have pets | 23:54 |
| derekv | yea i agree for work/business | 23:54 |
| jrwren | derekv: right. Cattle not pets is the new saying. | 23:54 |
| derekv | these are just things running in my basement | 23:54 |
| jrwren | oh, for basement, I have 1 system. it has its roots from 10+ years now. | 23:55 |
| jrwren | I did reinstall when I got new hardware about 5 yrs ago, but did copy a few configs over. | 23:55 |
| derekv | i'm down to two, with several VMs however | 23:55 |
| jrwren | not sure what bitrot means on a long running server like that ;) | 23:55 |
| derekv | s/VMs/jails | 23:55 |
| jrwren | i'm about to spinup a short lived VM on it right now :) | 23:56 |
| derekv | it just means that for some reason if you don't notice right away if something you got working stopped working, until a long time later | 23:56 |
| derekv | my firewall is handspun and i had spent a weekend getting ipv6 working, this was a couple years ago | 23:56 |
| jrwren | yeah! me too! | 23:57 |
| derekv | and like a year later i noticed it didn't work, no ipv6 | 23:57 |
| derekv | and i remembered almost nothing about what i did | 23:57 |
| jrwren | I save my ipv6 scripts, but every time i reboot I have to run the ipv6 scripts manually ;) | 23:57 |
| jrwren | derekv: but that is kind of good, because you do it 2-3 more times and you remember and you really learn it. | 23:57 |
| derekv | i'm about to replace it with pfsense =[ | 23:58 |
| jrwren | lame. | 23:58 |
| jrwren | well, maybe no lame, I don't know | 23:58 |
| jrwren | but does pfsense have good ipv6 support? | 23:58 |
| derekv | i think this firewall install goes back 6~7 years at least | 23:58 |
| derekv | i think so | 23:58 |
| jrwren | i'd love to see a nice firewall support prefix delegation | 23:59 |
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