[04:18] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55rtXg0ZsLE [04:19] ruh roh [04:19] greg-g: heh guess what [04:20] what's up? [04:20] greg-g: they've hired a product manager for my team's stuff [04:20] yay? [04:20] so now to figureout wtf that means and hope that it's sane [04:20] (I want one for my team so bad) [04:20] yea, everyone talks up product managers and how they're awesome sauce [04:21] but since we've not had one for the last year kind of hoping I'll figure out how to let go of bits of things to him [04:21] I'm just at the point (10 people, 3 distinct main areas of focus) where I could use the help [04:21] and that video is a bit creepy [04:21] yea [04:21] :) [04:21] I've got a really awesome co-lead that helps a ton on my end [04:22] technical co-lead? [04:22] yea, technically I lead one of of 6 and he leads the other team of 4 and we coordinate with UX team (5) and another tech team under a different mgr (4) [04:22] so the two of us juggle/manage the project together pretty well [04:22] interesting [04:23] that's kinda neat [04:23] are those 5 UX all for those 10 (14?) devs? [04:23] well, we've got one main UX, a visual person, and two junior folks they're hiring [04:23] and then their manager [04:23] who manages more of them, but we work (well will work) with those 4 [04:24] nice [04:24] I mean, you have a real user-facing product [04:24] I don't :) [04:24] yea [04:24] (in the traditional sense, of course, our engineering staff are usrs, but not the same) [04:24] right, that internal vs external thing [04:25] it's one thing I didn't like about my last job, we weren't the product but a cost [04:25] which changes the dynamic a bit there [04:25] yeah, my team is all cost [04:25] but important cost! :) [04:26] without it shit won't be pushed :) [04:27] alright, bed time for me, gotta be up at 5:45 [04:27] ouch, enjoy [14:27] Morning and all that. [14:28] morn [14:35] <_stink_> yo [14:50] yo yo [15:04] yo yo yo [16:29] .. [17:24] Yay, apparently someone breached Biggby's loyalty card system [17:26] wheee [17:28] <_stink_> you may be bad luck in that regard, cmaloney [17:29] I hope not [17:29] Though JoDee used her card at Biggby today so we'll see if that causes problems. [17:30] that sucks [17:30] do you have a link to that breach cmaloney? [17:30] jonathan_: I got a note from Biggby proper [17:30] Not sure if there's a link === jonathan_ is now known as jjesse [17:30] cmaloney: hrmm will have to check my email then [17:31] At the very least they didn't say "hacker" or "cracker" [17:31] and used the term "criminal" [17:31] ++ [17:32] good for them, no notification in my inbox [17:43] JoDee just got one [17:43] so they may be delayed [17:45] let me stand by my 'never participate in any loyalty program ever' stance [17:45] what did JoDee just get? sorry i was out [17:45] rick_h_ i participate in mperks *shrug* [17:46] MPerks is awesome [17:46] mperks is. their app kind of sucks though [17:46] That's OK, apparently someone broke into change.org [17:47] what is mperks? [17:47] it's gotten better [17:47] mperks is Meijer digital coupons [17:47] so they'll know that I signed up to abolish DST [17:47] oh, yea I go to meijer because they don't pressure the program like kroger does [17:47] damn evil place [17:47] M-Perks is acknowledging that Meijer already tracks your ass and gives them explicit permission [17:47] Kroger, blech [17:47] We've managed to bet $$ from them [17:47] Kroger can DIAF [17:48] agree!! [17:48] they cost too much and are wholly inconvenient. [17:50] https://amysramblings.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/back-to-ubuntu/ dunno if anyone's read my little writeup of the XPS 13, but there it is. [17:50] That's part of the reason I stopped going to Speedway: Their stupid video monitors [17:50] meh, i ignore them [17:50] i'm like, desensitized to commercials [17:50] :-P [18:00] http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3693 [18:51] good comic. i love SMBC [23:35] oh no. i'm browsing amazon again [23:49] remember when people used to go to the mall to hang out? [23:50] yes. [23:50] it was a *thing* when i was in middle and high school [23:50] now i don't go to the mall unless i need something specific. [23:51] i like to set up servers but i don't have any good way of keeping them from bitrotting or maintaining them or monitoring them or remembering how I set them up or that I set them up [23:51] until suddenly i remember one of them and it kills a weekend getting it running again then repeat [23:51] extreme futility [23:52] puppet :) [23:52] or whatever config management tool you prefer [23:53] i just worry that i'd use puppet then the next cycle would come around and puppet (or whatever i used) would be abandon and/or whatever scripts i created would be worthless [23:53] haha. the mall. [23:53] i go to the mall to just walk around sometimes. [23:53] derekv: I just don't setup servers anymore. I consider them ephemeral. [23:54] derekv: If i cannot replace it with a new instance in 5-15min, I have failed. [23:54] derekv: at arbor we had many roll out in 2-3 minutes [23:54] i guess they are a little like goldfish... which is maybe evidence why i shouldn't have pets [23:54] yea i agree for work/business [23:54] derekv: right. Cattle not pets is the new saying. [23:54] these are just things running in my basement [23:55] oh, for basement, I have 1 system. it has its roots from 10+ years now. [23:55] I did reinstall when I got new hardware about 5 yrs ago, but did copy a few configs over. [23:55] i'm down to two, with several VMs however [23:55] not sure what bitrot means on a long running server like that ;) [23:55] s/VMs/jails [23:56] i'm about to spinup a short lived VM on it right now :) [23:56] it just means that for some reason if you don't notice right away if something you got working stopped working, until a long time later [23:56] my firewall is handspun and i had spent a weekend getting ipv6 working, this was a couple years ago [23:57] yeah! me too! [23:57] and like a year later i noticed it didn't work, no ipv6 [23:57] and i remembered almost nothing about what i did [23:57] I save my ipv6 scripts, but every time i reboot I have to run the ipv6 scripts manually ;) [23:57] derekv: but that is kind of good, because you do it 2-3 more times and you remember and you really learn it. [23:58] i'm about to replace it with pfsense =[ [23:58] lame. [23:58] well, maybe no lame, I don't know [23:58] but does pfsense have good ipv6 support? [23:58] i think this firewall install goes back 6~7 years at least [23:58] i think so [23:59] i'd love to see a nice firewall support prefix delegation