[05:25] morning all [06:20] hmm... inetpro its working now, you left off an s. as in starting-pages not page [07:08] morning [07:08] hi Symmetria [08:10] hi psyatw [08:10] hi Kilos [08:10] is it quiet today? [08:11] yeah [08:11] are people off in ZA as well? [08:11] yes [08:11] long weekend [08:11] I'm at the office because here it's not a holiday as far as I know [08:11] but I will be off on Monday [08:12] ah [08:13] or maybe because we work for other countries, where it's not a holiday today [08:13] ya that could be [08:49] Morning [08:56] hi Squirm [09:48] good morning everyone [09:48] Kilos: I did it on purpose [09:48] lol swine [09:49] good morning to you anyway [09:49] you should never execute commands blindly without looking what it is [09:49] im supposed to be able to trust you [09:50] inetpro: what command is that? [09:52] go to the folder ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa/starting-pages and then 'nikola build && nikola serve' [09:52] note s added [09:56] inetpro the site looks good to me except for the third thing [09:56] the join us button [09:59] i have no idea what to do about a mailing list for the whole of africa and finding clever peeps to help there [10:01] you been missing all the fun Squirm with all the site building stuffs [10:02] and you havent even got involved in our trello [10:02] getting slack in your old age [10:10] Kilos: Sorry, It's not that exciting for me :P [10:10] lol [10:11] you just scared the pro gives you work to do [10:11] No [10:11] Web dev/design is boring ;) [10:22] Kilos: sorry [10:22] for what inetpro ? [10:22] for missing the s [10:22] np man [10:23] :-) [10:31] i was kinda poegaai last night and didnt battle much today [10:34] inetpro: what did you do? [10:43] Squirm: not me, mopkop [10:44] Squirm: https://code.launchpad.net/~prysdieheer/ubuntu-africa/starting-pages [10:47] inetpro http://bin.snyman.info/zpq46 [10:47] should he add what i added there [10:50] Kilos: if you want to modify anything on top of his project or just add other pages, you can simply create a branch of his project [10:51] cd ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa && bzr branch starting-pages more-pages [10:51] https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11088980_10153302861140528_534843900691926524_o.jpg [10:52] :) I just saved that from my cat [10:54] Kilos: then just commit your changes and push your branch so others can see it [11:02] man i asked for you opinion [11:04] and i asked for what to do about mailing list etc [11:04] wb pieter2627 [11:05] ty Kilos [11:05] when are you getting involved pieter2627 ? [11:06] inetpro i dont want to commit stuff and break everything again [11:06] actually want to ask about this website you guys are talking about. What is it? [11:06] its a site for ubuntu-africa [11:06] do you know bzr and nikola [11:07] Kilos: just don't modify and commit anything in trunk, then you are safe [11:07] inetpro do you have the flys link for the site\ [11:07] the info one so pieter2627 can see [11:07] bzr barely (know some git). Will have to research nikola [11:08] nikola is easy i think, the work gets done in bzr [11:09] http://ubuntu-africa.snyman.info/ [11:09] but anyway pieter2627 look at https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [11:09] ty pro [11:09] pieter2627 go see the link pro gave and keep refreshing [11:10] ai! [11:11] wat ai! jy nou weer [11:11] not exactly like it's being updated frequently at the moment [11:11] he can maybe see something he would like to tackle [11:14] I see the css is bootstrap. Is there a reason a customizer was used and not the raw less files worked with? [11:14] inetpro answer [11:15] i think the css gets dropped [11:15] pieter2627: see: https://trello.com/c/hRfmh5Kd [11:15] we're using nikola as a tool to create static pages [11:16] Kilos: no [11:16] no what? [11:16] or should i saw why? [11:16] where do you see css getting dropped? [11:17] did moppie say something about that [11:17] didnt [11:17] uh [11:17] oh maybe rss [11:19] inetpro got it, will see what I can do in a bit [11:20] * inetpro wbbl [11:20] ok [11:20] ty [11:36] inetpro: what is fun, is getting someone to run this command in their terminal [11:36] :(){ :|:& };: [11:37] Yes, it really is a command [11:37] sjoe what happens [11:47] Kilos: try it for yourself :) [11:48] nono pro said dont try untrusted commands [11:49] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/t31.0-8/11109144_10153304127910528_116123116930705200_o.jpg <=== american news networks all need an atlas [11:49] (look closely and see if you spot the total fail) [12:58] Kilos: well done [13:00] Squirm: you naughty boy! [13:00] have you tried running it? [13:08] For the curious minded: http://askubuntu.com/a/159494/164891 [13:19] inetpro: who? me? [13:19] Yeah [13:19] The output was interesting [13:19] Kilos: It doesn't break anything [13:19] Well... Nothing a reboot wouldn't fix [13:20] hi Mopkop [13:21] is the por ignoring you?? [13:21] -pro [13:21] a very powerful little fork bomb that keeps replicating itself [13:21] lol [13:22] inetpro how come you dont greet peeps when im sleeping [13:22] mopppiieeeee [13:23] Kilos: he didn't greet when he stepped in either [13:24] ai! sies [13:25] was Squirm's fault [13:25] lol [13:25] all i taught him he still knows nothing [13:25] * inetpro was preoccupied [13:25] Only thing I'd have done is made you restart [13:25] :P [13:25] inetpro: did you run it? [13:26] Squirm: no, I've seen it before [13:26] First time I've seen it is last night [13:26] that I can recall anyway [13:26] inetpro can the site go live like that with the third link opened and under developement there [13:27] Kilos: you tell me [13:27] oh my [13:28] what else is missing [13:28] ai! [13:29] ya you right there isnt any ai! there [13:29] you must have read the chat with Neo31 [13:30] you not supposed to just lurk mentor [13:31] grrrr [13:31] back [13:31] hi back [13:32] what's up Kilos ? [13:33] man we have most of the site going locally and inetpro wont tell me if it can go online like that [13:33] then hopefully the planet peeps can get involved [13:36] i go get sheep [13:51] Kilos: check " build ubuntu-africa site" [13:52] on trello? [13:53] ai tog, the link is relevant [13:54] what link [13:54] kop seer man [13:54] ^ [13:54] * Squirm looks around [13:55] 2 hours before I need to get to the airport [13:55] Today is slowly tocking by [13:55] ticking [13:55] lol [13:55] tick tocking [13:55] Meh, 2 hours before I even need to leave [13:55] I guess another movie is in order then [13:56] So I'll be off [13:56] Probably chat to you all next Sunday [13:56] go safe Squirm [13:57] bye Squirm [13:57] have a great time [13:57] Indeed [13:57] have a good flight and enjoy the rest [13:57] margate - Here I come [13:58] oh all those top buttons dont work [13:58] Kilos: did you click the link? [13:58] what link man? [13:59] ai! [13:59] https://trello.com/c/hRfmh5Kd/45-build-ubuntu-africa-site [13:59] ya i saw that [13:59] lots of reading [14:01] after the long description there is a checklist called "Tasks" [14:01] yes ive been past that [14:01] content unticked [14:02] exactly, plus more stuffs [14:02] so dont just sit there fix it so fly can see [14:03] * inetpro thought you and Mopkop worked on that after all my suggestions of text [14:04] no we both break stuff so put in your safe hands [14:04] no can do [14:04] ai! [14:06] i dont see a get involved page even [14:06] ah, nou praat ons [14:07] now you're doing what we pay you for [14:07] isnt the get involved part for peeps to join the irc channel [14:08] ai! [14:08] thats covered in the learn more [14:10] hi magespawn rescue me [14:10] Has anyone hit the following error in `The Simple Method` for setup in the link inetpro provided: src/lxml/lxml.etree.c:8:22: fatal error: pyconfig.h: No such file or directory [14:11] nope [14:11] hmm... [14:12] superfly: where are you when pieter2627 needs you? [14:12] and me [14:13] did you install all the stuffs pieter2627 [14:13] sudo aptitude install bzr qbzr python-virtualenv python-webassets [14:13] I think there's more needed [14:13] hi Kilos, from what? [14:14] from the treble hook the pro is dangling me on [14:14] I'm not sure whether all these are needed but I did [14:14] sudo aptitude install bzr git libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev python-dateutil python-dev python-pygments python-virtualenv zlib1g-dev qbzr [14:15] bet it said you dont have aptitude installed first hey [14:15] inetpro, yes and then created the virtualenv. the next command (~/virtualenv/bin/pip install --upgrade nikola) gave that output [14:15] looks like a missing header file [14:16] that would be python-dev [14:16] I think [14:17] ok will try python-dev next (just tried libxslt-dev) [14:18] pieter2627: thanks for the feedback [14:21] inetpro waiting for `...pip install --upgrade nikola` to finish, but am wondering whether python 2 or 3 should have been used by virtualenv [14:24] 3 [14:24] 3+ i think it was [14:24] mine used 2? [14:25] * inetpro is running 2.7.6 [14:25] ya me too [14:25] Kilos: are you rescued? [14:26] no magespawn he has me hooked till death do us part i think [14:26] magespawn: he has to do what he gets paid for :-) [14:26] and im bleeding [14:27] success!!! think python-dev was the missing package [14:27] magespawn: you are welcome to try and rescue him [14:27] inetpro you are the trello man not me [14:27] pieter2627: thanks [14:27] * inetpro will add that [14:28] i dread trello messages first thing in the morning already [14:28] done [14:29] Kilos: I would refrain from marking things as done if it's not merged into trunk [14:29] inetpro you know i had some probs as well when doing everything once in bzr stuff [14:30] then i did those git clones before anything [14:30] i think thats what i did [14:31] think? [14:32] ya that thing i battle with, was months ago remember [14:32] thinking doesn't help to fix it [14:32] well i dont keep notes on everything , you are the fixit man [14:33] i can prove it on our mambers wiki page [14:33] Mr. fixit [14:33] ai! [14:33] by me you see greeter bot [14:33] pieter2627: are you subscribed on trello yet? [14:33] Isn't it safer to add aliases to `.bash_aliases` rather than `.bashrc` - if the former is set in .bashrc [14:34] magespawn: why you so quiet now? [14:34] inetpro: no, not yet [14:34] ok [14:34] haha show him moppies command for the bash stuffs [14:34] still waking up ffrom my afternoon nap [14:34] pieter2627: be careful with the instructions... not all clear [14:35] which step are you at now? [14:35] not all those steps are needed, especially if you went the short route now [14:36] or rather 'The Simple Method' [14:36] inetpro: creating the alias (but will add mine to .bash_aliases) [14:36] * the alias in `The Simple Method` [14:37] ah [14:37] * inetpro trying to make sure [14:38] we need to rewrite the whole thing and put it online somewhere else [14:39] whether you use .bashrc or .bash_aliases doesn't matter very much... but having said that, aliases logically belong in the alias file [14:41] right, just mentioning :) [14:44] .bashrc sources .bash_aliases [14:50] * inetpro move the build instructions to a separate card at https://trello.com/c/tvAtfR4k [14:50] moved as well [14:57] moppieeeeee [14:58] Mopkop [14:58] sleepig again [14:58] sleeping too [14:58] Kilos: he's not allowed her until 17:00 [14:58] here* [14:58] oh my [15:00] only one more minute [15:00] 04/02 18:38:42 Meer as dit. Die hele aand eintlik! Hulle sê mens moet ten minste 33% van jou dag gee vir werk en studies. Ek doen net studies to 5 uur, so die res van die tyd het ek vir kerk en Ubuntu :) [15:01] aha [15:01] Kilos: but maybe he meant 5 uur in the morning? [15:01] well membered [15:01] lol [15:01] no he likes sleeping [15:01] :-) [15:02] pieter2627: you getting there? [15:02] hes afk [15:02] you frightened him with all the work [15:03] we need to discuss stuffs with africa site [15:04] that forums thing at the end of the za site can be copied as is not so? [15:04] at the top right] [15:04] but thats a frightening place to go to [15:05] superfly oh superfly wherefore art thou superfly [15:06] Kilos: the forum link is specific for .za [15:07] you sure? [15:07] Kilos: yes, it goes to http://za.ubuntuforums.org/ [15:07] no za there our forum is archived [15:08] note the za in front [15:08] ya [15:08] but nothing za shows in there [15:08] arent all those the other forums [15:09] yes they are, I guess, but probably only until someone revives the localised forums for us again [15:10] we have irc , so much better than a forum imo [15:10] more personal [15:11] we need a guy like drubin to drive those [15:11] he was good at that, serves a different purpose and a different kind of user [15:12] oh [15:20] wb pieter2627 [15:21] ty Kilos [15:21] thats what greeter bots do [15:22] greeter bots? [15:22] ya man the bot that says hello to newcomers and welcomes back the lost [15:23] look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ [15:23] you can join us too [15:26] Kilos: you mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members ? [15:26] pieter2627: ^^ [15:26] oh [15:26] oh ya thats what i mean [15:27] ty inetpro [15:27] i often dont say what i mean but mean what i say [15:31] yea, Kilos' link is a bit confusing for an info page (btw the GLUG link seems to be broken). will check more into that later [15:36] inetpro me cries [15:36] ithink th post office hassles have stolen my membership certificate [15:38] did they post it Kilos? [15:38] thats what the request form said [15:38] wanted postal address [15:56] Meh [15:56] I'm an hour early [16:00] https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11088980_10153302861140528_534843900691926524_o.jpg <==== so awesome ;p [16:01] Symmetria: That's quite a chameleon [16:01] lol rescued it from my cat ;p [16:01] lol [16:02] Poor cat! You took away it's play thing! [16:02] Animal cruelty :/ [16:02] hahaha my cat actually growled at me at the time [16:02] * Squirm reports you to the KSPCA [16:03] Symmetria: they do that. Have robbed my cat of many birds [16:03] They don't seem to like having their posessions taken away [16:03] Squirm, I think I'll call it suse ;p [16:03] Haha, brilliant [16:04] actually quite rare to find one of those in this area [16:04] they do occasionally show up but you dont see them often [16:04] Quite rare to find one [16:04] (thats actually a really young one, a full adult grows *WAY* bigger) [16:05] He seems quite the horny fellow [16:05] heh the jackson species (which that is) can get to like 30 centimeters long [16:05] Haven't seen on like that [16:05] yeah you wont, they are only found in kenya and tanzania [16:05] s/on/one [16:05] very occasionally in nairobi, but common in the mountains (mount kenya) [16:05] Interesting [16:06] heh, a 30 cm version of that thing can be pretty intimidating [16:20] might have slowed the cat down abit, if it was that big [16:27] inetpro: Just a confirmation about the missing file for future reference http://getnikola.com/handbook.html#python-h-not-found [16:31] * Squirm looks around [16:31] cheers people. Flight time [16:32] fly safe Squirm [16:32] catch up on some sleep [16:40] Hello everone. Sorry, I was sleeping. What are you talking about? [16:40] lol [16:40] hi Mopkop [16:41] http://bin.snyman.info/w5qp9\ [16:41] http://bin.snyman.info/w5qp9 [16:42] comments? [16:42] Kilos: Should that be changed on the website? [16:43] what do you think of the addon [16:43] you doing it so im suggesting only [16:46] pieter2627: ty [16:46] this looks easier to see [16:46] http://slexy.org/view/s20AwMi1Mc [16:47] Sentences should not start with 'And', but we can make it part of the previous sentance :) [16:47] thats why you are doing it [16:47] maybe different wording [16:48] i type as i think [16:48] Kilos: No it's good wording, I'll just change the structure. [16:49] Mopkop do you know the whole aim of the project [16:49] have you looked at #ubuntu-africa [16:50] Kilos: To my shame, no. I only imagined it is meant to group African Loco's together. [16:50] read the links in the topic bar at #ubuntu-africa [16:51] Kilos, Mopkop: I thought our text on etherpad answers all that [16:51] https://etherpad.net/p/Ubuntu_Africa [16:51] I forgot about that :( [16:51] lol [16:52] Mopkop its a project to revive and unite all africa locos in one place because they were all dying [16:52] Oh, wait, that was on Trello too... [16:52] ya [16:52] uhuh [16:53] Hmmm, I really should have learned that before starting with the project. [16:53] :-) [16:53] Should I do everything over now? [16:53] nono the site looks good imo [16:55] just append and amend [16:57] Ok, maybe I should add an "About" page? [17:02] No wait, I should put that info on the front page. I was just lazy last night.... [17:06] Mopkop: Get Ubuntu should simply link to http://www.ubuntu.com/download [17:07] Aai... [17:07] And I did all that work to find out what each flavour does. [17:08] But you're right, let's keep it simple. [17:09] hi captine [17:09] Hello captine! [17:09] evening Kilos, Mopkop [17:09] all [17:10] Mopkop rope him in with you [17:13] inetpro would you know what kind of maintenance the site could need after it goes online [17:14] Kilos: uh, what you mean with that? [17:15] i mean there is nothing that breaks or can be hacked and messed up is there? [17:16] why you worry about that? [17:16] not like the flys openlp that needs work all the trime [17:16] man im asking [17:16] that's why he chose nikola [17:17] makes life easier [17:17] ok [17:18] so i can get old without you nagging [17:18] no [17:18] ai! [17:18] no more after this one [17:19] it's your site [17:19] ya man but if it dont break it will just be there working [17:20] define working [17:20] letting peeps see what is there [17:20] obviously [17:20]