[00:00] <omgitsmit> Jamie_: sudo service bluetoothd restart
[00:00] <balazs> hi, might be a dummy question, but why doesn't `route -n` show a route for 127.0.0.0 and lo ?
[00:00] <Jamie_> omgitsmit: let me check... if it does im gonna try my best to remember that one
[00:01] <omgitsmit> balazs: why would it route anywhere if its local?
[00:01] <Jamie_> omgitsmit: bluetoothd: unrecognized service
[00:01]  * omgitsmit shrugs
[00:01] <omgitsmit> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/bluetoothd.8.html
[00:02] <omgitsmit> i dont have bluetooth on this box :(
[00:02] <kostkon> Jamie_, sudo service bluetooth restart
[00:02] <balazs> omgitsmit: doesn't it need to route traffic to the lo interface ?
[00:02] <omid> hello
[00:03] <omgitsmit> welcome omid
[00:03] <kostkon> Jamie_, to reset the bluetooth adapter, you could try   sudo hciconfig hci0 reset
[00:03] <omid> tnx
[00:03] <Jamie_> omgitsmit: thanks.... i was adding the d to start with and he recomened using sudo so I thought it might make a difference... but that worked thanks
[00:03] <omgitsmit> balazs: i wouldnt think so, im most likely wrong through :)
[00:03] <omid> anybudy from iran?
[00:04] <balazs> omgitsmit: otherwise what stops 127.0.0.1 would going thru the gateway ?
[00:04] <omid> کسی ایرانی هست؟
[00:04] <k1l_> !ir | omid
[00:04] <ToeSnacks> omid: I've been to Iran if that counts lol
[00:05] <omgitsmit> ToeSnacks: i'd vote for you
[00:05] <ToeSnacks> lol
[00:05] <ToeSnacks> what's the best way to partition a disk using a oneline noninteractive command?
[00:06] <omgitsmit> ToeSnacks: fdisk could probably do that
[00:07] <ToeSnacks> omgitsmit: alright I will look into fdisk thanks
[00:07] <omgitsmit> ToeSnacks: might be interactive though
[00:07] <ToeSnacks> hmm
[00:07] <omgitsmit> even with nifty terminal flags
[00:07] <omgitsmit> its been awhile
[00:07] <ToeSnacks> yeah it's for an unattended setup
[00:07] <omgitsmit> i hear ya
[00:07] <murrdawg> k1l_ : Not having much luck doing the install. All I want to do is flash the acer tablet. Is that so hard?
[00:07] <ToeSnacks> I am using ansible to config a machine
[00:09] <k1l_> murrdawg: i am not aware of the device specific details, but what i found says it works with fastboot. so get a working rom and flash it
[00:09] <ToeSnacks> also this may be out of the scope of this channel but what are the underlying differences between drives that show up as sdX and xvdX
[00:09] <murrdawg> k1l_: but how do I install fastboot on Ubuntu? I have a rom
[00:09] <somsip> ToeSnacks: xvdX suggest AWS. Is that right?
[00:10] <ToeSnacks> somsip: suggests XEN virtualization with includes AWS
[00:10] <somsip> ToeSnacks: fair enough
[00:10] <k1l_> murrdawg: sudo apt-get install android-tools-fastboot android-tools-adb
[00:10] <ToeSnacks> but I can format xvdX drives directly where sdX drive require partitioning
[00:10] <k1l_> murrdawg: easy as that
[00:11] <apt-get> k1l_: you called?
[00:11] <murrdawg> k1l_: so how do I push out a ROM with fastboot?
[00:11] <ToeSnacks> which is causing substantial butthurt on my part
[00:11] <k1l_> apt-get: nope.
[00:13] <murrdawg> k1l_: The other problem I have, is how do I select the tablet?
[00:13] <rainbowwarrior> hello I am running Ubuntu 14.10 on an acer v571p laptop and for some reason my battery is discharging fast and its a brand new battery how can I solve this problem please ?
[00:15] <k1l_> murrdawg: fastboot recognizes your device when connected and the device is in fastboot mode
[00:16] <k1l_> murrdawg: fastboot flash ...
[00:17] <k1l_> murrdawg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1624645  and other your specific device relevant threads there.
[00:45] <Fludge> Hello.
[00:50] <stormchaser3000> hi
[00:50] <stormchaser3000> um ho do i change files permissions in sell script?
[00:51] <stormchaser3000> (using an ssh client to connect to a vps
[00:51] <stormchaser3000> )
[00:52] <SchrodingersScat> !chmod | stormchaser3000
[00:54] <rainbowwarrior> hello I am running Ubuntu 14.10 on an acer v571p laptop and for some reason my battery is discharging fast and its a brand new battery how can I solve this problem please ?
[00:56] <Foxhoundz> dear ubuntu
[00:56] <Foxhoundz> your os is unstable :[
[00:56] <Foxhoundz> that is all
[00:56] <omgitsmit> nay sayers gunna nay say
[00:56] <svetlana> 1. are you using lts 2. what are the symptoms
[01:00] <rgb-one> Hello
[01:00] <pac1__> join #vnc
[01:00] <rgb-one> is there a way to boot a guest VM from a host kernel?
[01:01] <omgitsmit> !libvirt
[01:01] <halfburnttoast> you mean something besides KVM?
[01:04] <rgb-one> halfburnttoast: yes. My system does not support 64-bit virtualization so KVM is not an option
[01:06] <halfburnttoast> rgb-one: Ah, how about QEMU?
[01:06] <rgb-one> halfburnttoast: QEMU uses KVM no?
[01:06] <halfburnttoast> it's a lot slower, but it doesn't need vtx
[01:07] <Fleet> I'm having a little trouble getting wireless to work on 14.04LTS....I have a Broadcom card and I thought I downloaded/installed the packages with the correct drivers but my computer still won't acknowledge a wireless device.  Any help?
[01:07] <halfburnttoast> I think it can, but it can still run 64bit guests without hardware acceleration
[01:07] <halfburnttoast> it's just a lot slower
[01:07] <halfburnttoast> like, a lot a lot
[01:09] <rgb-one> halfburnttoast: "QEMU supports virtualization when executing under the Xen hypervisor or using the KVM kernel module in Linux."
[01:09] <rgb-one> halfburnttoast: both require Vt-x
[01:09] <rgb-one> halfburnttoast: Xen and KVM
[01:10] <halfburnttoast> rgb-one: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU
[01:10] <halfburnttoast> it can use it, but it can run without vtx support
[01:13] <halfburnttoast> I'll run some tests on my side just to be sure
[01:17] <dos000> my sound icon disapeared ... how do i get it back ?
[01:21] <hellyeah> hmm
[01:33] <silentkill8211> ify nate102882
[01:34] <yishuihang> hello
[01:35] <JinjaNinja> For those online, I need help troubleshooting as to why GRUB bootloader isnt working. I have installed Kali Linux (With grub installed on the installation of kali). Previously, I had a Ubuntu/ windows 8 dual boot. I had removed the partitions though, because I wanted kali instead.
[01:35] <JinjaNinja> the ubuntu partition***
[01:36] <halfburnttoast> rgb-one: If you're still looking into QEMU, this link gives some pretty good information on setting a emulated VM up
[01:37] <halfburnttoast> rgb-one: https://gmplib.org/~tege/qemu.html
[01:37] <halfburnttoast> I tested it and got it working fine without vt-x enabled
[01:38] <JinjaNinja> Anyone know much about GRUB bootloader, and would be willing to help me troubleshoot it?
[01:38] <dos000> anyone can help me with my sound issues ?
[01:38] <rgb-one> halfburnttoast: Great. thanks man, will look into it
[01:38] <rgb-one> JinjaNinja: Whats the prob?
[01:38] <halfburnttoast> rgb-one: no prob!
[01:38] <JinjaNinja> rgb-one: For those online, I need help troubleshooting as to why GRUB bootloader isnt working. I have installed Kali Linux (With grub installed on the installation of kali). Previously, I had a Ubuntu/ windows 8 dual boot. I had removed the partitions though, because I wanted kali instead.
[01:39] <JinjaNinja> the ubuntu partition***
[01:39] <JinjaNinja> Sorry, I copied and pasted what I said earlier
[01:39] <JinjaNinja> Lol
[01:40] <rgb-one> JinjaNinja: So you have a windows 8 partition and a kali partition?
[01:41] <JinjaNinja> Yes, respectively. I have created all of the neccessary partitions to make Kali work, I should say. Lol. All of it was done in the kali installation setup
[01:41] <JinjaNinja> When I start the computer, it automatically goes to windows 8. No grub.
[01:41] <daftykins> there's no Kali support in here.
[01:42] <daftykins> !kali
[01:43] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[01:43] <JinjaNinja> rgb-one, PM me? People are getting fiesty because I'm on #ubuntu chan talking about this. ;)
[01:43] <Quantos> So go to the correct channel then
[01:45] <rgb-one> JinjaNinja: I just sent you a message but it said no username or channel
[01:47] <blackmatrix_ny> hi
[01:49] <blackmatrix_ny> my mouse hiccups
[01:50] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , how do i stop the battery in my acer v5 571p laptop from discharging fast in Ubuntu 14.10 please ?
[01:51] <rgb-one> rainbowwarrior: look into tlp
[01:52] <rgb-one> rainbowwarrior: it is a program for managing battery life
[01:52] <rainbowwarrior> rgb-one Thank You
[02:04] <dos000> anyone can tell me why sound is not coming out from headphone ?
[02:04] <dos000> normal sound is fine
[02:05] <dos000> also in pavucontrol i see that the output is going to the headphone i just dont hear anything
[02:08] <docmur> I'm trying to get Ubuntu installed with a ZFS root and I'm at the step of installing grub but when I run apt-get install grub2-common grub-pc I get Installation Finished. No Errors Reported. Then Segmentation Fault (core dumped), twice then Generating grub.cfg, one more Segmentation Fault and dpkg returned an error code(1)
[02:08] <docmur> when I run grub-probe / I get Segmentation Fault (Core Dumped)
[02:13] <tim_> does anyone know how to store software onto a cassette tape?
[02:14] <somsip> tim_: first, use a time machine to travel back to the 80s...
[02:14] <daftykins> ^
[02:14] <daftykins> damn that was going to be my line
[02:14] <somsip> tim_: really, does anyone still do that?
[02:14] <tim_> somsip:  very funny but i want to try it out
[02:15] <somsip> tim_: clearly you are not a child of the 80s... Read up on transfer rates first to see how tedious it would really be
[02:16] <tim_> yes but can it be done
[02:17] <Noah0504> I have rTorrent freezing occasionally on my machine.  Its download location is on a mounted Samba share.  It looks like it's freezing (process status is D in top) because of an error with the mounted share.  I have tracked down an error message in kern.log (CIFS VFS: Server sent request, not response.).  Is there anyway to get the process to resume, or am I going to just have to reboot like I normally do?  Also, any advice on figuring out what
[02:17] <Noah0504>  causes this error?  I was previously running everything on a Raspberry Pi with no issues.  This is a much faster PC.
[02:17] <Stanley00> tim_: well... you may need a cassette writer, then may be need to write a driver for it. Then, just write tar file to it :P
[02:19] <daftykins> don't torrent to samba shares
[02:19] <daftykins> bad move
[02:19] <adammm> eww torrenting to samba shares
[02:20] <Noah0504> Can I download torrents to any kind of share?  Ha.
[02:20] <tim_> i was thinking more on the lines off importing raw data off a file into audacity playing it into the cassette player with audio while having the cassette player record
[02:24] <daftykins> tim_: #linux would be better for you.
[02:25] <Stanley00> tim_: http://www.instructables.com/id/Storing-files-on-an-audio-cassette/?ALLSTEPS you will need a cable to connect output of computer to your recorder input, and convert sound file to wav, and just play and record it :3
[02:28] <hawly> tim_, uhh youre talking about data files? (like: test.txt, diff , vmlinuz)?
[02:28] <tim_> yeah
[02:29] <hawly> hold on.. all are data files! (including quack.mp3 and fart.wav)
[02:30] <hawly> tim_, i mean, youre not willing to *play* them from cassete
[02:31] <hawly> tim_, so youre thinking backup or sort of..
[02:32] <tim_> hawly: yeah
[02:32] <hawly> tim_, I think there are DAT tapes solutions around there (and those may be more reliable than cassete)
[02:33] <hawly> if youre thinking in long term storage
[02:35] <hawly> but if youre hacking for fun: that is an old already existent method, and some guys may already had bring that back to present (100% speculative)
[02:36] <Mo0O> hi there
[02:37] <Mo0O> I've got an old 13.04 ubuntu release, I want to update it to a 14.04 LTS, because it's an LTS ;)
[02:37] <somsip> !eol | Mo0O (upgrade link on here I think)
[02:37] <Mo0O> but `apt-get update` return many 404 errors
[02:38] <Mo0O> thanks somsip, you rox!
[02:38] <Mo0O> :)
[02:40]  * hawly sings: im peeing in a bottle...
[02:40] <somsip> !ot | hawly
[02:46] <Guest35956> guest35956
[02:46] <Guest35956> can anyone read this
[02:47] <somsip> Guest35956: yes
[02:47] <compdoc> nope
[02:47] <compdoc> somsip is lying
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Guest35956: If you see it, we see it also .
[02:48] <Guest35956> nice! i didnt know about this xchat thing
[02:49] <Noah0504> daftykins: I see my NAS support NFS by default.  Would that be a better choice, or is downloading torrent over the network frowned upon in general?
[02:53] <hiexpo> torrent for what Noah0504
[02:54] <Noah0504> Yeesh, I guess I can't type tonight.  Anyway, I'm running rTorrent and downloading those torrents to a mounted Samba share currently.  For whatever reason, I'm not having issues with rTorrent freezing up because CIFS is throwing an error.  I was wondering if NFS would be better.
[03:03] <b3n_> hi guys .. anyone knows about creating android project via command line with gradle?
[03:08] <hawly> b3n_, ill take a look on that
[03:08] <hawly> dont know what is , but already liked
[03:10] <b3n_> i'm a weird guy .. i'm trying to create android app using command line (no IDE)
[03:10] <b3n_> #hawly thanks
[03:11] <b3n_> @hawly thanks
[03:11] <hawly> b3n_, can this be discussed here?
[03:11] <b3n_> don't know
[03:11] <hawly> b3n_, wont we be banned?
[03:11] <b3n_> oh okay .. so there's a rule here? hehe ..
[03:12] <hawly> b3n_, i heard about NDK, which is the platform for native binaries
[03:12] <hawly> b3n_, but its 600+ MB
[03:12] <b3n_> yeh it's big
[03:13] <hawly> b3n_, i already managed to run a shell script using the method from jackpal web page
[03:13] <hawly> b3n_, but i think sometime ill get screwed cuz im not root in there
[03:15] <b3n_> alright .. thanks for that .. I'll look for something else ..
[03:15] <somsip> b3n_: it is offtopic for here. Try the android studio support channel or #android or type !alis
[03:19] <b3n_> thanks .. I'll go to that channel
[03:25] <researcher1> I am on vbox 4.3 Host Ubuntu 14.04 Guest Windows XP. From guest I can not open a certain site. But many sites do open.What can I do?
[03:32] <Rhapsody> I have gparted live booted, and I'm trying to convert my MBR SSD to GPT. What do I so?
[03:32] <Rhapsody> Do
[03:34] <EriC^> sudo gdisk /dev/sdX
[03:35] <Rhapsody> EriC^: now what?
[03:35] <somsip> Rhapsody: old version on ubuntu referred to here, but seems popular and may still be relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/84501/how-can-i-change-convert-a-ubuntu-mbr-drive-to-a-gpt-and-make-ubuntu-boot-from
[03:35] <somsip> *of
[03:36] <EriC^> Rhapsody: press ?
[03:36] <EriC^> there should be something that says convert MBR to GPT
[03:36] <hawly> cya
[03:37] <Rhapsody> Create a new empty guid partition table (GPT)?
[03:37] <Rhapsody> Is that the one?
[03:38] <EriC^> Rhapsody: is the drive empty?
[03:38] <Rhapsody> Yes
[03:38] <EriC^> ok, you can do that, it'll create a new partition table and you can repartition and create the filesystems
[03:39] <Rhapsody> Okay.
[03:39] <Rhapsody> And now?
[03:39] <EriC^> press w
[03:39] <Rhapsody> Did it, thanks
[03:49] <mad_hatter> so I did a chmod -R 0002 on a dir in my homedir
[03:49] <mad_hatter> now I can't access that dir?
[03:49] <somsip> mad_hatter: recover to a root shell and fix it that way
[03:49] <somsip> !recovery | mad_hatter (not sure if this has the details)
[03:49] <bodhi_zazen> chmod -R 777
[03:50] <somsip> mad_hatter: yeah - that looks right
[03:51] <mad_hatter> bodhi_zazen, can you tell me what happened?
[03:51] <mad_hatter> that worked btw
[03:51] <mad_hatter> but now there are stars by all the filenames when i do a ls -l
[03:51] <bodhi_zazen> you removed all your permissions
[03:51] <bodhi_zazen> well, for files, you may have to fix it with find
[03:52] <somsip> mad_hatter: http://superuser.com/questions/178786/what-does-the-asterisk-mean-after-a-filename-if-you-do-ls-l/178789#178789
[03:52] <bodhi_zazen> http://z9.io/2013/11/05/fix-file-644-directory-775-permissions-linux-easily/
[03:54] <mamece2> Hello, I just bought a new lcd monitor, I connected it to Ubuntu 14.04 and now when i log on everything looks bad and the PC hangs. I can still do ssh.
[03:55] <mamece2> I reinstalled unity and lightdm . Still frozen and looking bad the desktop
[03:55] <svetlana> how bad
[03:55] <bodhi_zazen> use the old monitor and see if the problem persist
[03:55] <mamece2> if i use the old monitor everything is lookin good again
[03:55] <hiexpo> bodhi_zazen, true
[03:56] <mamece2> i also reintalled the nvidia drivers
[03:57] <dtscode> is there anyway to upgrade gnu make 3.8.1 to 3.8.2 without building from source
[03:57] <mamece2> how can i check the logs ?
[03:57] <mamece2> sometimes the screen gets a ubuntu message error, I cant reoprt it or the pc hangs
[03:58] <darius93> dtscode, maybe from a ppa?
[03:58] <daya> Guys any way to know which user shutdown/reboot the machine. I used the last command but can't display user and remote IP from where the reboot/shutdown was executed.
[03:58] <dtscode> darius93, do you know of any specific one?
[03:58] <dtscode> or should i go hunting?
[03:59] <darius93> you might want to go hunting. You could try the one from 14.10 repo or 15.04 but not sure if thats updated
[03:59] <darius93> i never had issues with make though
[03:59] <mamece2> Hello, I just bought a new lcd monitor, I connected it to Ubuntu 14.04 and now when i log on everything looks bad and the PC hangs. I can still do ssh. I have testes the old monitor and loks good again
[03:59] <ravinix> hi alll
[03:59] <ravinix> Krnel panic -not syncing : attemped to kill init !exitcode =0x00000007
[04:00] <dtscode> darius93, thanks. 3.8.1 just doesnt have all of the current features of .2
[04:00] <hanasaki> how do I get to the web page of my router with default IP 192.168.123.254   when my host has a 10.  IP?
[04:00] <ravinix> ubuntu 14.04 become slow
[04:00] <darius93> dtscode, changelog so i can see whats missing?
[04:00] <dtscode> darius93, uhhh not sure. i just know .RECIPEPREFIX isnt there
[04:01] <darius93> and dtscode isnt the latest like 4.1 or 4.2?
[04:01] <dtscode> oh is it?
[04:02] <darius93> dtscode, http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/make/
[04:02] <somsip> !make | dtscode (or use a PPA, or build manually if you really want to but see !source)
[04:03] <somsip> !info make | dtscode (sorry - mixed up my factoid commands there)
[04:13] <mamece2> Hello, I just bought a new lcd monitor, I connected it to Ubuntu 14.04 and now when i log on everything looks bad and the PC hangs. I can still do ssh. I have testes the old monitor and loks good again.
[04:40] <aryan12> hi guys,
[04:40] <aryan12> anyone around ?
[04:40] <Ben64> aryan12: if you have a question, ask it
[04:40] <aryan12> I couldn't recover folders from testdisk
[04:41] <aryan12> I just get the blank folders and blank files as output (recovered)
[04:42] <aryan12> Ben64: ^^
[04:43] <Ben64> not so much a question as a statement, but maybe you should try photorec
[04:44] <aryan12> Ben64: hm.. I couldn't get which drive mine is.. to go with photorec
[04:44] <bojan> Can anybody solve this problem "I have configured NFS on ubuntu and i can mount the shared partition on the same computer but cant mount in the computer connected in the network...Saying error as :mount.nfs:server access denied while mounting"..But i can see the shared directory in the network computer by the command "sghowmount -e 192.168.2.1
[04:45] <EriC^> aryan12: in testdisk, did you press p over the partition?
[04:46] <aryan12> EriC^: yeah, I get damaged or no files..
[04:46] <aryan12> EriC^: in folders too. and when I do C , it only recovers the structures not the data
[04:52] <bojan> Can anybody solve this problem "I have configured NFS on ubuntu and i can mount the shared partition on the same computer but cant mount in the computer connected in the network...Saying error as :mount.nfs:server access denied while mounting"..But i can see the shared directory in the network computer by the command "sghowmount -e 192.168.2.1
[05:07] <aryan12> EriC^: in folders too. and when I do C , it only recovers the structures not the data
[05:12] <bojan> ubuntu-server
[05:12] <bojan> #ubuntu-server
[05:12] <bojan> Can anybody solve this problem "I have configured NFS on ubuntu and i can mount the shared partition on the same computer but cant mount in the computer connected in the network...Saying error as :mount.nfs:server access denied while mounting"..But i can see the shared directory in the network computer by the command "sghowmount -e 192.168.2.1"
[05:16] <administrator_> does anyone use deepin?
[05:19] <sooraj> how to install telegram on ubuntu mate?
[05:20] <Veggies_NomNom> Hi! I’m trying to make a ubuntu install usb drive on os x with the following command: “also hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/path/to/target.img ~/path/to/ubuntu.iso” but I’m not sure how to correctly type in the path. Can anyone help me?
[05:21] <hiexpo> sooraj, http://deshack.net/install-telegram-for-linux-as-an-application/
[05:21] <YvesLevier> i am promoting Thunderbird for our municipality.  Having a question about those who have a Mac.
[05:23] <monzie> ls -la
[05:25] <Veggies_NomNom> … anyone?
[05:25] <Veggies_NomNom> I used pwd to find the path I’m in but it keeps saying “no path or directory”
[05:25] <Veggies_NomNom> “no such file or directory” * (sorry)
[05:31] <Fudster> What package is the ubuntu .wav decoder on servers? "
[05:31] <Fudster> AutoDJ -> [Deck B] Could not find decoder for '/home/radio/bot/autodj_script.wav'"
[05:42] <Fudster> What package is the ubuntu .wav decoder on servers? "
[05:42] <Fudster> AutoDJ -> [Deck B] Could not find decoder for '/home/radio/bot/autodj_script.wav'"
[06:05] <solarradiation> in general, an apt-get upgrade will not upgrade the kernel, correct?
[06:16] <mad_hatter> does anyone know how to remove world write permissions on a file?
[06:19] <bazhang> !permissions | mad_hatter
[06:26] <PCatinean> Hey guys, how does one execute a python script in ubuntu every night at midnight?
[06:27] <bekks> !cron | PCatinean
[06:27] <gnudna> yeah i would recommend crontab
[06:32] <Nyctophilia_> hello, im typing from my Lenovo ThinkPad Helix (1st Gen) running ubuntu 14.04 LTS currently. everything runs fine out of the box, except for g sensors. windows 8 has this feature for auto-turning the display. thats exactly what i want on ubuntu too if possible. how could i achive this? thanks in advance
[06:37] <Nyctophilia_> how can i assist you guys for helping me? any input you need? if so, which commands should i use at the console?
[06:49] <stlu> hello
[06:49] <stlu> I am having difficulty logging into ubuntuforums.org with SSO.  I successfully logged in using SSO last year, but something has changed I guess.  Any advice?
[06:51] <bazhang> stlu, perhaps try in #ubuntuforums
[06:52] <stlu> ok
[07:11] <dam_> anybody?
[07:12] <dam_> hello?
[07:12] <chuckboris> good morning https://www.dropbox.com/sc/8ienf25bns3hn5v/AADNQikdoOhjoKbOXW2Y-Jqia
[07:13] <dam_> now is afternoon
[07:13] <dam_> here
[07:13] <chuckboris> not in germany
[07:14] <dam_> schooll life is so boring at Fri
[07:14] <dam_> school
[07:15] <chuckboris> here today is a holiday
[07:15] <chuckboris> including Monday
[07:16] <dam_> wow
[07:16] <dam_> (*O*)
[07:17] <chuckboris> school holidays are 14 days
[07:17] <chuckboris> ;)
[07:17] <dam_> is monday holiday?
[07:17] <dam_> why
[07:17] <chuckboris> There are Easter holiday in Germany
[07:17] <dam_> I am free at every Fri
[07:18] <dam_> Oh,
[07:20] <dam_> do you speak German?
[07:20] <dam_> and English
[07:21] <dam_> I can speak English, Japanese and Chinese
[07:21] <chuckboris> my english is not very
[07:21] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[07:22] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I safely delete a partition?
[07:22] <dam_> you can google
[07:23] <chuckboris> yes lol
[07:23] <dam_> i am a newbie
[07:24] <dam_> ...
[07:26] <dam_> I must go out now, bye
[07:26] <chuckboris> bye
[07:26] <chuckboris> nice day
[07:27] <shreya_t> hi
[07:28] <aeon-ltd> CountryfiedLinux: that really depends on how your system is set up, if the partition is not important then just deleting it is fine, but obviously if it was your main partition that include /boot i wouldn't expect a working system after deleting it
[07:29] <CountryfiedLinux> aeon-ltd, So if it's not an important/main partition I can just safely do it with Gparted?
[07:30] <CountryfiedLinux> aeon-ltd, Do I need to boot into a live session first?
[07:30] <adomas> just unmount partition and you can delete it via Gparted
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> yes, i would not play with partitions while booted to the hdd you are working on
[07:31] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks
[07:31] <adomas> I would play, since it will be harder to remove important partitions :)
[07:31] <CountryfiedLinux> And do I need to update grub afterwards?
[07:31] <adomas> no
[07:32] <adomas> just /etc/fstab
[07:32] <adomas> if it was there
[07:32] <CountryfiedLinux> ok
[07:33] <adomas> CountryfiedLinux, but be sure not to remove partition which mount point is / or /boot
[07:33] <adomas> :)
[07:35] <carmelo1989> da jia hao a
[07:35] <carmelo1989> youren zai a?
[07:36] <CountryfiedLinux> OK I deleted it and it still shows in Gparted.
[07:36] <adomas> maybe it shows as unallocated?
[07:36] <CountryfiedLinux> yes adomas
[07:36] <adomas> so it is showing free space, not partition I think
[07:36] <CountryfiedLinux> I want that space put back onto sda1
[07:36] <CountryfiedLinux> oh
[07:37] <CountryfiedLinux> I thought that meant partition.
[07:37] <adomas> then resize sda1, but if it is mounted
[07:37] <adomas> you need to boot into gparted live cv
[07:37] <CountryfiedLinux> OK thanks adomas I'll boot into a live session after this iso is finished writing to the usb stick. I'm planning worst case scenario :P
[07:37] <adomas> CountryfiedLinux, you can check list of partitions available to system by typing " sudo ls -l /dev/sd* " in terminal
[07:38] <adomas> :)
[07:39] <Ben64> adomas: sudo not necessary for that
[07:39] <carmelowell> hey everybody i am newguy...
[07:40] <adomas> Ben64, depends on system no? now every user has access to /dev :)
[07:40] <adomas> *not
[07:40] <Ben64> adomas: should always have access to ls
[07:41] <adomas> even if directory has root:root ownership?
[07:41] <Ben64> yep
[07:41] <adomas> did not knew that :)
[07:42] <melvin> heey guys
[07:42] <melvin> I'm in need of some help
[07:48] <starbuck> hi, is it possible to manage a program wich was not installed vie a packet (.deb) via the commandline 'service xxx restart/stop...' ?
[07:50] <melvin_> heey
[07:52] <melvin> heeu
[07:53] <Sramelyor> hello
[07:53] <Nothing_Much> How do I use encryption software??
[07:53] <Sramelyor> which one?
[07:53] <Nothing_Much> GNUPG
[07:53] <melvin> do you guys see me talk?
[07:53] <Nothing_Much> yes melvin
[07:53] <melvin> oh thank
[07:54] <Sramelyor> try true crypt
[07:54] <Sramelyor> Its cool
[07:54] <Nothing_Much> TrueCrypt is dead and it isn't very trustworthy as it's not FOSS
[07:54] <Sramelyor> I am afraid I don't know much about GNUPG
[07:54] <Sramelyor> Truecrypt is dead?
[07:54] <bekks> Yes.
[07:54] <Nothing_Much> Yes, it's been dead for about 2 years now I think
[07:54] <Sramelyor> sheesh
[07:54] <melvin> So i have installed TeamSpeak3 and it's all working fine. Now i have a problem. I want the normal client to startup when my PC starts up. I tried editing: sudo nano -w /etc/rc.local
[07:55] <bekks> Sramelyor: http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
[07:55] <bekks> Nothing_Much: It died in May 2014.
[07:55] <Sramelyor> ohhh
[07:55] <Sramelyor> damn
[07:55] <Nothing_Much> So 1 year
[07:55] <Sramelyor> I liked that
[07:55] <Sramelyor> used to
[07:56] <Nothing_Much> I'm SERIOUSLY trying to figure out why there's no freaking GUI front ends for the encryptions
[07:56] <Nothing_Much> It's all abou thte keys and stuff like that
[07:56] <Nothing_Much> the*
[07:56] <melvin> So i have installed TeamSpeak3 and it's all working fine. Now i have a problem. I want the normal client to startup when my PC starts up. I tried editing: sudo nano -w /etc/rc.local
[07:56] <Sramelyor> lol. Melvin
[07:57] <Sramelyor> Its more like u wanna cut the converstaion
[07:57] <Nothing_Much> Well, Teamspeak 3 is dumb
[07:57] <Sramelyor> no offence
[07:57] <carmelo1989> sdfsaf
[07:57] <starbuck> mumble is better
[07:57] <Nothing_Much> It doesn't automatically make a shortcut anywhere
[07:57] <melvin> guys, i would just like to know how i can run it at the startup of my pc. I don't wana argue what program is better
[07:57] <Nothing_Much> I have to go into my file manager and double click the darned thing, it sucks
[07:57] <bekks> melvin: Do you want to run a TS3 server?
[07:57] <Nothing_Much> Well, melvin, you can try the startup applications thing
[07:57] <melvin> bekks: no i want to run the client
[07:58] <Nothing_Much> melvin: Type in the Dash "Startup applications"
[07:58] <Nothing_Much> Add a program
[07:58] <melvin> Nothing_much: oh
[07:58] <bekks> melvin: Then you cannot use /etc/rc.local, since no user is logged in when /etc/rc.local is executed.
[07:58] <bekks> !autostart | melvin
[07:58] <melvin> @startup program i can only use one command i think
[07:59] <Nothing_Much> you only need 1 command to launch a progtram
[07:59] <Nothing_Much> program*
[08:00] <melvin> lol yea i just realized, normally i would use cd TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64 and then use ./ts3client_runscript.sh
[08:00] <bekks> melvin: So create a script containing those commands.
[08:00] <melvin> So i have added it to the startup programs, when i restart my pc it should also start?
[08:00] <Nothing_Much> the runscript is all you need, dude
[08:00] <Sramelyor> Can someone suggest a good torrent client
[08:00] <melvin> okay
[08:00] <bekks> !torrent | Sramelyor
[08:01] <melvin> so if i would restart pc now Nothing_Much it should startup automatically?
[08:01] <Sramelyor> which would u suggest using
[08:01] <Sramelyor> I just shifted to linux
[08:01] <Sramelyor> ubuntu 14.10
[08:01] <bekks> Sramelyor: The one you want :)
[08:01] <adomas> Sramelyor, Transmission
[08:01] <Sramelyor> true
[08:01] <bekks> melvin: Just log out and back in.
[08:01] <Sramelyor> I wanted one with a good interface like utorrent
[08:01] <melvin> Sramelyor i use the transmission bittorent client. Works fine like on windows
[08:02] <melvin> okay brb bekks
[08:02] <adomas> Sramelyor, qbittorrent has simillar interface
[08:02] <Sramelyor> hmm
[08:02] <adomas> to utorrent
[08:02] <Sramelyor> oh
[08:02] <Sramelyor> tnx :)
[08:02] <Sramelyor> I started playing portal just an hour ago
[08:03] <Sramelyor> why is it that the graphics doesn't seem as cool as when run on windows
[08:03] <Sramelyor> ?
[08:03] <bekks> Sramelyor: Different graphics.
[08:03] <Sramelyor> as in?
[08:03] <adomas> Sramelyor, you need to adjust the graphics maybe ;)
[08:03] <Sramelyor> lol. I did
[08:03] <adomas> you play Portal or Portal 2?
[08:03] <melvin> It works guys! THANKS so much, i was trying with rc.local for like 2 hours. LOL
[08:03] <Sramelyor> It just isn't giving me the feel of it
[08:04] <bekks> Sramelyor: It looks different from Windows since it isnt Windows.
[08:04] <Sramelyor> but its the same GPU
[08:04] <Sramelyor> why is there a diff?
[08:04] <bekks> Sramelyor: And?
[08:04] <Trinity> do programs continue to run if screensaver comes up?
[08:04] <bekks> Sramelyor: The GPU is NOT responsible for how an application looks like.
[08:04] <adomas> Sramelyor, Windows use DirectX, and Linux use OpenGL, that is why different graphics no? :)
[08:04] <bekks> adomas: No.
[08:04] <Sramelyor> ohhhhh
[08:04] <melvin> Sramelyor, this is ubuntu, you should just use it more often. If you've been using Windows all your life, like me. I understand its strange haha
[08:04] <Sramelyor> true
[08:05] <Sramelyor> especially with sudo
[08:05] <Sramelyor> but interesting
[08:05] <melvin> it's just more type intensive. :D
[08:05] <bekks> You should not use sudo with graphical applications.
[08:05] <Sramelyor> why doesn't windows have a similar terminal
[08:05] <Sramelyor> ?
[08:05] <bekks> Sramelyor: Ask Microsoft.
[08:05] <adomas> you should not use sudo at all, use su
[08:05] <Sramelyor> not graphical applications
[08:05] <Sramelyor> no way
[08:05] <bekks> adomas: Nonsense.
[08:05] <Sramelyor> why?
[08:05] <Sramelyor> whats the difference?
[08:06] <melvin> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us
[08:06] <melvin> haha
[08:06] <Sramelyor> between su and sudo?
[08:06] <Trinity> Sramelyor, they use cmd something similiar
[08:06] <bekks> !sudo | Sramelyor
[08:06] <Trinity> they don't use su and sudo because of design
[08:06] <adomas> su is like "sudo -s"
[08:06] <bekks> adomas: It is not.
[08:06] <adomas> :D
[08:06] <Sramelyor> who  is ubottu? is that a bot?
[08:06] <Trinity> linux is file permission based whereas windows is something else
[08:06] <melvin> Sudo is like administrative right like windows has you know?
[08:06] <bekks> adomas: Not funny. su authenticates against the root account which is locked by default in Ubuntu. So sudo is the way to go.
[08:07] <adomas> hmm
[08:07] <Trinity> does anyone know what happens when ubuntu goes into screensaver mode?
[08:07] <adomas> locked?
[08:07] <Sramelyor> adoms are u fucking around? seriously? I am already confused and u are making it more difficult for me
[08:07] <bekks> !root | adomas
[08:07] <adomas> "sudo passwd" >> "su"
[08:07] <adomas> unlock!
[08:07] <carmelo1989> 有中国人么？
[08:07] <bekks> adomas: Unlocking the root account maay result in losing support in here.
[08:07] <Sramelyor> who is ubottu? how do u type so much so fast?
[08:07] <Trinity> carmelo1989, wo shi
[08:08] <carmelo1989> 。。。
[08:08] <bekks> !bot | Sramelyor
[08:08] <adomas> bekks, shouldn't it be all about freedom?
[08:08] <Sramelyor> holly fuck
[08:08] <Sramelyor> hey just one thing
[08:08] <carmelo1989> 刚用linux，好多东西不懂
[08:08] <bekks> adomas: It has nothing to do with freedom.
[08:08] <Sramelyor> does anybody know anything about Cicada 3301?
[08:08] <adomas> bekks, freedom of choice
[08:09] <bekks> adomas: On your own system, you can do whatever you want. But please dont advise others how to possibly break their system. Ubuntu uses sudo instead of su by purpose.
[08:09] <adomas> bekks, ok, I understand :)
[08:10] <carmelo1989> ha
 haizaia?
[08:10] <Sramelyor> any good vpn's for ubuntu?
[08:10] <melvin> Guys i made a text document on my desktop and uhhh it has this code in it: cd TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64
[08:10] <melvin> ./ts3client_runscript.sh
[08:11] <melvin> How can i make it so it will put it in the terminal?
[08:11] <Trinity> Sramelyor, Linode
[08:11] <Sramelyor> linode?
[08:11] <Sramelyor> is it good?
[08:11] <Trinity> why would i say it if it wasn't
[08:11] <Sramelyor> I used to use hotspot shield on windows
[08:11] <Sramelyor> sorry. just asked
[08:11] <Sramelyor> tnx :)
[08:11] <Sramelyor> what about antivirus
[08:12] <Sramelyor> does linux need one?
 zaia?
[08:12] <melvin> sramelyor as far as i know i don't think so
[08:12] <Trinity> Sramelyor, firewall for ports to defend programs, no need for anti virus due to file permissions
[08:13] <Sramelyor> firewall for ports? sorry but could u explain
[08:13] <Trinity> programs use ports which are ports to the net
[08:13] <Sramelyor> okay
[08:13] <Trinity> if one of your programs is compromised then so will you depending on the severity
[08:13] <Sramelyor> kay
[08:14] <Sramelyor> still didn't get the firewall part
[08:14] <Sramelyor> ?!?!?
[08:15] <Guest27328> Doesn't Ubuntu have App Armour installed by defaukt? I would indeed worry more about your firewall configuration than the possibility of a virus infecting your machine
[08:15] <Sramelyor> how to configure firewall in ubuntu?
[08:15] <Trinity> I wouldn't worry too much about it
[08:15] <Trinity> as long as you can install the source of files you'll be just fine
[08:15] <Trinity> if you're extremely paranoid run hash checks
[08:16] <Sramelyor> I still installed clamAV
[08:16] <Sramelyor> is that even helpfull?
[08:16] <cowbacon> Sramelyor: install ufw and gufw and configure it from there
[08:16] <Trinity> i mean as long as you can trust the source*
[08:16] <Guest27328> You can install gufw and select the Home profile
[08:16] <Sramelyor> tnx :)
[08:16] <Trinity> saturation of markets makes it so there are less people making viruses for linux than for windows
[08:16] <Sramelyor> I thought that was a myth
[08:17] <Trinity> how is that a myth?
[08:17] <Sramelyor> read about it somewhere guess on make use of
[08:17] <Trinity> i didnt say its harder
[08:17] <Trinity> I said due to saturation of people
[08:17] <Sramelyor> Jam
[08:17] <Sramelyor> oh btw
[08:18] <Trinity> it's logical/monetizable for more virus creators to create viruses for windows than for linux
[08:18] <Sramelyor> how to make an irc chat more secure
[08:18] <Trinity> ssl
[08:18] <Sramelyor> ssl
[08:18] <cowbacon> ssl and sasle
[08:18] <cowbacon> sasl*
[08:18] <Sramelyor> tnx a ton :)
[08:18] <Sramelyor> cya
[08:19] <cowbacon> https://freenode.net/sasl/
[08:19] <cowbacon> oh hes gone :c
[08:19] <Trinity> anyone have any idea what happens during screensaver? if programs continue to run?
[08:20] <Ben64> Trinity: yes of course
[08:20] <Trinity> Ben64, they continue to run?
[08:22] <Ben64> Trinity: yes, why would a screensaver kill programs?
[08:22] <Trinity> Ben64, not kill them but allow them to continue to run
[08:22] <Guest27328> I think even videos for example won't stop playing
[08:23] <Trinity> ahh okay
[08:23] <Ben64> Trinity: all a screensaver ever does is be a screensaver
[08:25] <nikitha> join php
[08:26] <Guest5385> Anyone have experience with power management tools like "LTP" or "Laptop-Mode-Tools"? Which do you prefer any why?
[08:31] <dewdrop> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on an old AMd Sempron computer. When the live USB boots to desktop it freezes on desktop with zagged lines. It ran windows 8.1 fine, so all hardware seems fine.
[08:32] <cowbacon> dewdrop: have you tried another distro with a newer/different kernel?
[08:32] <dewdrop> Any ideas as to what might be the issue, or changes to make?
[08:33] <ArcherGodson> x64 or x32?
[08:33] <dewdrop> cowbacon: Apart from 12.04, I tried 14.10 and Linux mint 17.1 cinnamon.
[08:33] <dewdrop> x64
[08:33] <dewdrop> *14.04 not 12.04
[08:33] <dewdrop> all freeze at desktop
[08:34] <cowbacon> dewdrop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/523451/right-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts-it-just-dont-work maybe that would work? third soulution from the top
[08:36] <dewdrop> cowbacon: Ok, I am unable to gt to terminal using Ctrl + alt + F1.
[08:37] <cowbacon> dewdrop: does the livecd work? then you can boot the livecd, chroot and install it that way
[08:37] <dewdrop> No, even live cd hangs at desktop
[08:38] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | dewdrop
[08:38] <Tin_man> maybe try xubuntu, see i you have the same problem..
[08:40] <Number5> ubuntu is very good, it's quite light. Unless you want that fancy Unity :)
[08:40] <Number5> I mean xubuntu
[08:43] <grass> 0
[08:44] <dewdrop> EriC^^: Thanks, nomodeset worked, I am now able to boot into live cd and install it. I am installing it now and see if the fix in the link works after installing.
[09:01] <bojan> How can we authenticate NFS in ubuntu??
[09:03] <ArcherGodson> by IP
[09:04] <bojan> ArcherGodson:You told for me??
[09:06] <ArcherGodson> bojan: yes
[09:07] <bojan> ArcherGodson:How to do that..can u guide me??Then what is NIS and all??
[09:07] <ArcherGodson> https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-nfs-security.html
[09:10] <bojan> Can anybody help me in configuring NIS on ubuntu
[09:11] <ArcherGodson> do you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo?
[09:13] <bojan> Can we authenticate the NFS client on the MAC basis with the entry in hosts.allow??
[09:14] <jeger> hii
[09:15] <bekks> bojan: Are you talking about NIS or NFS?
[09:15] <bojan> bekks:Want to authenticate NFS using NIS
[09:15] <jeger> what
[09:15] <bekks> bojan: That makes no sense.
[09:16] <jeger> !!!
[09:16] <bojan> bekks:Then what can we do for authentication for NFS
[09:16] <bekks> bojan: Which NFS version do you use?
[09:17] <jeger> have no  i idea
[09:17] <jeger> what version i have
[09:17] <bekks> jeger: I asked bojan :)
[09:17] <bojan> bekks:I have LTSp environment here in which all my clients are using the filesystem with a softlink in their desktop nut i want NFS for the client who are coming to my office>So we need authentication for those right??
[09:17] <bekks> bojan: Thats not an answer to my question. Which NFS version do you use?
[09:18] <jeger> ???
[09:19] <bojan> bekks:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10729362/
[09:19] <bekks> bojan: That doesnt answer my question either. Are you using NFSv3 or NFSv4?
[09:20] <bojan> bekks:how to check that?
[09:20] <jeger> wee do you see that ?
[09:20] <bekks> bojan: Whar does your /etc/exports look like?
[09:20] <bekks> *What
[09:21] <bekks> bojan: And can you please pastebin "uname -a; lsb_release -a" and provide the URL?
[09:22] <bojan> bekka:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10729372/
[09:22] <bojan> bekks:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10729379/
[09:24] <gv45538> Hi to all, somebody have installed DDR3 So-Dimm 1Gb Samsung PC3 10600 M471B2873GB0-CH9 RAM on mobo Asus J1900i-c Celeron/miniitx?
[09:24] <bekks> gv45538: How is that related to Ubuntu?
[09:25] <bojan> bekks:You got it??
[09:25] <bekks> bojan: Yes. But I am still waiting for your /etc/exports
[09:26] <bojan> bekks:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10729396/
[09:26] <gv45538> I have send the mobo to tecnical assistance because during the installation of Ubuntu the disk was corrupted, the tecnical support reply to me that no problem found on the mobo
[09:27] <bekks> bojan: You are using NFSv3. It doesnt support authentication.
[09:27] <gv45538> bekks: I have send the mobo to tecnical assistance because during the installation of Ubuntu the disk was corrupted, the tecnical support reply to me that no problem found on the mobo
[09:27] <bojan> bekks:then what should i do now??
[09:28] <phiona> im running on a dual boot system and im running out of space on my hbome partition. i want to get some hard disk space from my windows partition. how do i do that?
[09:28] <bekks> gv45538: Questions about your RAM are totally unrelated to disk hardware errors which are totally unrelated to Ubuntu support.
[09:28] <bekks> gv45538: You may want to have a look at ##hardware
[09:28] <bojan> bekks:Am just started to configure NFS for my office ...So i can change anything..Please guide me
[09:28] <bekks> bojan: Why do you think you need authentication for NFS?
[09:29] <bojan> bekks:we cant give direct and full access to all the users who are accessing my directory right??
[09:29] <bekks> bojan: Why not? And who is "we"?
[09:29] <bojan> bekks:i am looking for authentication on MAC address basis
[09:30] <bojan> bekks:sorry i
[09:30] <ole_oz7t> hello frinds i have made a c program in terminal. How can i get it graphical with gtk ??????????????????
[09:30] <bekks> bojan: Authentication on MAC address basis is a) totally unrelated to NIS, b) totally insecure since MAC addresses can be easily faked, c) totally pointless.
[09:31] <bojan> bekks:Then please suggest some idea for this scenario
[09:31] <gv45538> bekks: the tecnical support said that the ram have caused the problem!? I have installed Ubuntu on external drive (usb) without problem. I think that's a bad tecnical support
[09:31] <bojan> bekks:I want some authentication like samba users is also ok for me
[09:32] <bekks> bojan: NFS has entirely nothing to do with samba. You want to use NFSv4 and Kerberos authentication: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto#NFSv4_with_Kerberos
[09:32] <bekks> gv45538: Your issues have nothing to do with Ubuntu, I'm afraid.
[09:33] <phiona> im running on a dual boot system and im running out of space on my home partition. i want to get some hard disk space from my windows partition. how do i do that?
[09:33] <gv45538> bekks: ok, I'm searching someone with the same experience. bye.
[09:33] <ArcherGodson> phiona: gparted
[09:34] <bekks> gv45538: The same experience is still unrelated to Ubuntu support in here.
[09:34] <ArcherGodson> boot from live usb and gpart your partitions
[09:34] <gv45538> bekks: thank's
[09:35] <Sramelyor> how to download irc chat histroy
[09:35] <Sramelyor> history
[09:35] <Sramelyor> ?
[09:36] <Sramelyor> how to download irc chat histroy?
[09:37] <ole_oz7t> sobody here knows programming with gtk gcc in ubuntu ?????????
[09:37] <Sramelyor> sorry. not me
[09:37] <Sramelyor> Do u know how to download chat histroy of a irc?
[09:38] <phiona> ArcherGodson: ok. lets say i have now a partition ready. how do i move it to be at least side by side with my home partition?
[09:38] <jeger> hi
[09:38] <KisChang> Hi
[09:38] <Sramelyor> hello
[09:38] <Sramelyor> can u by any chance see my message?
[09:39] <jeger> how
[09:39] <jeger> ?yes
[09:39] <Sramelyor> cool
[09:39] <Sramelyor> do u know as to how to download a irc chat histroy
[09:40] <ArcherGodson> phiona: 1. reduce windows partition. 2. increase home partition
[09:40] <Sramelyor> I want to see the previous discussions
[09:40] <jeger> no
[09:40] <Sramelyor> damn
[09:40] <KisChang> no
[09:40] <ole_oz7t> can i get some help with gtk gcc in ubuntu ????????????????
[09:40] <jeger> sorry:(
[09:41] <jeger> i have problems with ubuntu to
[09:41] <jeger> tu
[09:41] <ole_oz7t> jeg  hello what a problem ?
[09:41] <KisChang> Sramelyor  see >>>>http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[09:41] <bekks> ole_oz7t: Can you stop multiplying your punctuation signs? Thank you.
[09:41] <jeger> need help
[09:41] <KisChang> Is what you want
[09:42] <ole_oz7t> jeger   what a problem  i have many hi hi
[09:42] <Sramelyor> thanks a looooot Kischang
[09:42] <ArcherGodson> phiona: it have graphical interface, you get what you see
[09:42] <jeger> have problems with ubuntu
[09:42] <Sramelyor> yes
[09:43] <ole_oz7t> jeg  what a problem ?
[09:43] <jeger> want to download minecraft fuul version
[09:43] <ole_oz7t> jeger   tell me your problem
[09:43] <bekks> !minecraft | jeger
[09:44] <jeger> what
[09:44] <bekks> jeger: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-minecraft-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[09:44] <jeger> i only have demo
[09:44] <jeger> :(
[09:44] <ole_oz7t> jeger  you say you have problems
[09:44] <bekks> jeger: So read the link.
[09:44] <phiona> how do i move partitions  to be at least side by side with my home partition ArcherGodson??
[09:45] <jeger> ???
[09:45] <jeger> what link ???
[09:46] <jeger> hello
[09:47] <jeger> hi
[09:48] <dewdrop> cowbacon: Thanks, following your link I isntalled Nvidia drivers. Now the issue is, everytime I boot up the dsesktop screen is relally sluggish for openinig windows or menus. When I switch to tty using ctrl+Alt+f1 and then back to desktop, everything just works.
[09:48] <phiona> how do i move partitions  to be at least side by side with my home partition so that i can then increase my home partition ArcherGodson??
[09:48] <dewdrop> it happens on every boot, unless I do ctrl+alt+f1 and back again it won't work
[09:51] <ole_oz7t> somebody here there can help me with problems with gtk gcc and ubuntu
[09:54] <Ben64> ole_oz7t: maybe if you describe your problem in detail
[09:56] <ole_oz7t> arcane hello my problem is. I have made a c program in terminal and want to get it graphical with gtk
[09:58] <Eightynine> Hi. Help me please, as I said yesterday, I have tearing when scrolling some web pages. How can I enable V-Sync or maybe I should install proprietary driver? I have tearing only in Firefox, Chrome worked good.
[10:01] <Ullarah> Anybody have some good suggestions on a password manager?
[10:01] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: what's the problem?
[10:01] <bekks> Ullarah: keepass2
[10:01] <Desu> Eightynine: vsync might help, should be enabled by default if you use the free drivers though
[10:02] <Desu> Ullarah: keepass(x|2), pass
[10:02] <Ben64> ole_oz7t: you should go to a programming channel
[10:02] <ole_oz7t> ullarah  hello my problem is: i have made a c program in c with ubuntu and want to made it graphically with gtk
[10:03] <Desu> ole_oz7t: and?
[10:03] <Ullarah> No point in pinging me!
[10:03] <Desu> ole_oz7t: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/
[10:03] <Desu> Ullarah: lies!
[10:04] <Ullarah> Thanks bekks and Desu :) I was just looking at 'pass' now :)
[10:04] <ole_oz7t> And?  Its working in terminal but i want to made it graphically with gtk
[10:04] <bekks> ole_oz7t: So create a gtk application.
[10:04] <Ullarah> ole_oz7t, use this, https://glade.gnome.org/
[10:04] <bekks> ole_oz7t: There is no way of "converting" it.
[10:05] <ole_oz7t> ullarah  i have been there but it is ti difficult for me
[10:05] <Desu> ole_oz7t: read the docs I linked you to
[10:05] <G66k> hello everyone , im using ubuntu 12.04 i have java installed but when i do echo $JAVA_HOME its print empty line
[10:05] <Ullarah> ole_oz7t, if glade is difficult for you, then there is absolutely nothing that can help you.
[10:05] <ole_oz7t> ullara  also glade but i need some help
[10:05] <Desu> G66k: dpkg-reconfigure whatever
[10:06] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: with what?
[10:06] <ole_oz7t> ullarah  im am not yong more  born 1936 but i can make terminal c programmes
 maybe there's rendering problem in Firefox?
[10:06] <Ullarah> Sorry to be a bother, any thoughts on this Desu? http://enpass.io/
[10:06] <Desu> Eightynine: please don't use <> when replying, it looks like you are quoting me
[10:06] <Desu> Ullarah: do not use
[10:07] <ole_oz7t> eric do we have contact?
[10:07] <Desu> Ullarah: don't use any password manager that isn't free software (free as in freedom, not free beer)
[10:08] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: what do you mean?
[10:08] <ole_oz7t> eric  you have toll me something   therefor answer
[10:09] <Ullarah> I ended up using 'pass' :P
[10:09] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: what's your question?
[10:09] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: are you asking to message me in private?
[10:10] <Desu> I think it was Schneier that have a really good quote about crpythography, secuirty and open source
[10:10] <ole_oz7t> eric my qustion is about gtk gcc and graphically programming with gtk
[10:10] <Desu> Ullarah: https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram/archives/1999/0915.html#OpenSourceandSecurity  there you go
[10:10] <Desu> Ullarah: and that was back in 1999
[10:11] <Desu> and it is even more true today
[10:11] <Ullarah> I know. closed source irks me.
[10:11] <bazhang> ole_oz7t, you wish to create a gtk theme
[10:11] <Ullarah> Didn't realise that the enpass product was closed source @_@
[10:11] <Desu> Eightynine: use your <tab> key to autocomplete nicks
[10:12] <ole_oz7t> eric  yes i have made a litle c program in terminal and want to made it grafically
[10:13] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: gtk2 or gtk3 ?
[10:13] <Desu> Ullarah: the fact that they don't make the sources available on their page, and that you have to give them your email so that they can send you a "download link" is suspicious as hell
[10:13] <Desu> Ullarah: why would they do that if it was free software/open source?
[10:13] <ole_oz7t> eric do you have a emailadress or can you speak on skype ?
[10:13] <dewdrop> Hi, is there a way to use driver-manager through commandline and select a driver?
[10:14] <Desu> Ullarah: not to mention that they don't actually mention the license anywhere on their site
[10:14] <Ullarah> Desu, give me your email, and I'll send you a reply! :P /s
[10:14] <ole_oz7t> eric i am in skype as olebole1252
[10:16] <Desu> ole_oz7t: don't use gtk2, use gtk3
[10:16] <ole_oz7t> eric i use gtk3
[10:17] <ole_oz7t> eric and i can make a emty window with it
[10:17] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: is there anything n particular you need help with? i'm not an expert with gtk, but i tried it once and it seemed a lot like visual basic with a whole lot more coding involved... i thought maybe i could help or point you in the right direction
[10:18] <EriC^^> great, what's the problem your facing? do you get the idea behind event driven programming or .. what exactly is the problem?
[10:18] <ole_oz7t> eric my problem is to use gtk3 i cam make programmes in c and terminal
[10:19] <ole_oz7t> eric but i could like to make the same in gtk3
[10:19] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: what does the program do?
[10:20] <Desu> ole_oz7t: you might want to go and ask in the gtk channel on gimpnet
[10:20] <ole_oz7t> erik  ist making a 2 meter 144.000 146.00 MH to a port output
[10:20] <Desu> but start by reading the link I gave you
[10:20] <Johnny_Linux> is a ham
[10:20] <ole_oz7t> eric i am radioamateur
[10:20] <Johnny_Linux> 20 mwtwrs
[10:21] <Johnny_Linux> meters
[10:21] <Desu> ole_oz7t: not using gnu radio?
[10:22] <ole_oz7t> eric no i have made a litle c programme making 80 channes on the 2 meter band  calling a port between 144 and 146  80 channels
[10:22] <nszceta> what do you guys use instead of systemd for running daemons?
[10:23] <EriC^^> upstart nszceta
[10:23] <Desu> ole_oz7t: http://gnuradio.org
[10:23] <Desu> nszceta: currently ubuntu uses upstart
[10:23] <ole_oz7t> eric  do you have an email then i can send the sourde
[10:23] <ole_oz7t> source
[10:23] <Desu> (which is vastly inferiour)
[10:23] <nszceta> ubuntu uses upstart but I am looking for a more portable solution
[10:23] <Desu> nszceta: ubuntu will use systemd "soon"
[10:24] <EriC^^> nszceta: ^
[10:24] <nszceta> something I can run on RHEL 7, Ubuntu 14.04, and CoreOS........ *today*
[10:24] <Desu> nszceta: doesn't exist
[10:24] <nszceta> btw thanks for the suggestions guys
[10:24] <Desu> nszceta: just write both systemd and upstart units
[10:24] <Desu> not that hard to maintain both
[10:24] <Desu> nszceta: or docker :p
[10:24] <nszceta> haha
[10:25] <nszceta> I think I will go with supervisord because I haven't heart any counter arguments that would seriously convince me otherwise
[10:25] <ole_oz7t> eric  you can call me on skype ?
[10:27] <Kartagis> the reason I switched to mint over ubuntu was because tracker was constantly crashing at every boot. is that still the case?
[10:28] <Desu> nszceta: sort of useless on systemd though
[10:28] <nszceta> is there a way to use systemd in ubuntu 14.04
[10:28] <jeger> i tell you dont use windows
[10:28] <Desu> I would just maintain both upstart and systemd units
[10:29] <bazhang> !ot | jeger
[10:29] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: i wouldn't be of much help to you, i barely have used gtk
[10:29] <nszceta> alright
[10:29] <nszceta> I think its the only practical solution to maintain both
[10:29] <nszceta> like you have been saying
[10:29] <jeger> ther just spying on you with with windows
[10:29] <nszceta> everything else is a half-measure from what I can see
[10:29] <bazhang> jeger, take that elsewhere
[10:29] <ole_oz7t> eric ok but thank you  happy easter
[10:30] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: maybe join the gtk channel on gimpnet as Desu suggested, more likely people know about it and can help
[10:30] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: thanks you too
[10:30] <ole_oz7t> eric i have tried but it is not easy to understand  i am from 1636 hi hi
[10:31] <ole_oz7t> eric  hi hi 1936
[10:31] <nszceta> ???
[10:31] <nszceta> what is going on
[10:31] <jeger> !!!
[10:32] <uptree> hi guys :) i'm new to linux/ubuntu and reading 'the linux command line' book.  it mentions a folder lost+found in the root directory. so far i have all the other folders it mentions, except this one.  is it bad that this folder is not in my / root directory?
[10:33] <jeger> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß??????????????????????????????????????ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß????????????????????????????????ßßßßßßßßßß?????????????ßßßß??ßßßß?ßßßßß??ßßßß??ßßß???ßßßß??ßßß????????ßßßßß?ßßßßß??ßß???????????????????????????????????????????????ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß
[10:33] <jeger> ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß???????????????????[10:33] <jeger> 666666666666&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%55555555555555555555555555%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$44444444$$$$$$$$$$44444444444444444444444444444444444433333333333333§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""22222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111111111111
[10:33] <G66k> how to install  deb file inspecific directory ?
[10:33] <jeger> 11111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:33] <G66k> wtf !
[10:34] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: it's an irc channel like here, type /server irc.gnome.org then type /join #gtk+
[10:34] <newUbun_usr> why do i get 'lib' unspecified when trying to install R?
[10:34] <bekks> jeger: Can you stop that nonsense?
[10:34] <EriC^^> ole_oz7t: they should be able to help you i'm sure
[10:34] <uptree> jeger: thanks for burying my questions ;)
[10:35] <ole_oz7t> oro who in schweiz wohnst du ?
[10:36] <jeger> if ou want to learn more then ask me do you have facebook?
[10:36] <Eightynine> Why is Update manager tells me that it will install unity-control-center? I don't need Unity, if I needed it I'd installed it.
[10:36] <jeger> !!!
[10:37] <erry> why would ubuntu say i'm using a manually installed driver for graphics (and all my grapnhics options are also messed up - they used to work) when i'm not?
[10:37] <Mehrzad> What is mspaint equivalent in ubuntu?
[10:37] <erry> i was using the open source driver just fine :/
[10:38] <Eightynine> What plugin for security is better to use in Chrome?
[10:39] <ole_oz7t> oro_ whre are you living in scwitzerland ?
[10:40] <greyback> Eightynine: unity-control-center not just for unity, it's used to configure many parts of ubuntu. See what packages explicitly depends on it with "apt-cache rdepends unity-control-center" and try to find which one you have installed (ubuntu-desktop the usual)
[10:40] <Guest5163> !ciao
[10:40] <Guest5163> !list
[10:41] <uptree> Mehrzad: you might want to check out gimp
[10:41] <nszceta> warez? wat
[10:41] <greyback> Mehrzad: I like "krita" - is powerful but not as confusing as gimp imo
[10:43] <ObrienDave> Mehrzad, gnome-paint, pinta, krita, there are several
[10:43] <ole_oz7t> oro_ I have lived i biel bienne 10 years
[10:43] <G66k> any idea how to solve this problem
[10:43] <G66k> http://pastebin.com/3VPZ3Dw8
[10:44] <ObrienDave> Mehrzad, better yet, why not install synaptic package manager and look for one?
[10:44] <bazhang> ole_oz7t, this is ubuntu support only, not a chat channel
[10:44] <Eightynine> How can I remove that unusable "browser" called Firefox and forbid to install it?
[10:44] <bazhang> ole_oz7t, please take the chit chat somewhere else
[10:45] <bazhang> Eightynine, package manager, same as any other
[10:46] <Mehrzad> Are any of them preinstalled?
[10:46] <Eightynine> Just remove it and it will remove all remained data?
[10:47] <bazhang> Eightynine, use the purge option then
[10:47] <ole_oz7t> bazhang  happy easter
[10:47] <bazhang> !ot | ole_oz7t
[10:48] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic <----- ole_oz7t
[10:48] <Kartagis> the reason I switched to mint over ubuntu was because tracker was constantly crashing at every boot. is that still the case?
[10:48] <ole_oz7t> ubuttu  i am asking and asking for help here but onle angry people happy easter
[10:48] <Eightynine> Can I just do apt-get autoremove Firefox?
[10:51] <ole_oz7t> bazhang  speak please kindly happy easter
[10:51] <Eightynine> sudo apt-get purge firefox it wants to remove gnome-core.
[10:56] <trijntje> Eightynine: thats probably a meta package, it should be safe to remove
[10:56] <Eightynine> So, I must agree?
[10:57] <comodo_dragon> baby drone
[10:58] <trijntje> Eightynine: yes, if you want to remove firefox and if there are not other packages that will be removed when you do that
[11:00] <Eightynine> http://pastebin.com/THfbQ26j
[11:05] <Eightynine> Is this right? Check that pastebin link please.
[11:08] <trijntje> Eightynine: that output looks weird, did you edit it or something? Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:09] <Eightynine> Ubuntu Gnome, I'm using russian version. 14.04 I copy-pasted it in Google Translate and than send it to Pastebin.
[11:12] <Eightynine> You have no ideas about this?
[11:13] <pippo> !ciao
[11:13] <pippo> !list
[11:13] <bekks> Eightynine: WE still didnt see the unchanged output.
[11:14] <Eightynine> But it gives output in russian of course, how can I switch to english?
[11:15] <bazhang> Eightynine, where was this ubuntu gnome downloaded from
[11:15] <cfhowlett> Eightynine, perhaps this is better asked in the ubuntu-ru irc channel??
[11:16] <Eightynine> It was downloaded from russian torrent. Download speed from official torrents was slow.
[11:17] <bekks> Eightynine: I'd strongly suggest reinstalling your Ubuntu with an official ISO downloaded from one of the official mirrors.
[11:18] <cfhowlett> Eightynine, yeah, no that sounds wrong on multiple levels ...
[11:18] <monzie> Eightynine: you can also see the checksum of the iso and compare it..
[11:21] <solsTiCe> hi. I run fstrim twice and only the second one with -v. it shows 0 bytes trimmed. is it normal ?
[11:23] <lord4163> solsTiCe: probably
[11:25] <lord4163> solsTiCe: if you set the discard flag in your fstab, it should trim automatically. the ubuntu installer adds it automatically for some ssds
[11:25] <Eightynine> How can I check checksum?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Eightynine
[11:26] <trijntje> Eightynine: yeah, reinstall for sure, who knows what kind of crap was put in that version you downloaded? You can set the official isntall to russian as well
[11:30] <Eightynine> There's checksum in txt file and it's the same as calculated in terminal.
[11:30] <mamece2> Hello, I just bought a new lcd monitor, I connected it to Ubuntu 14.04 and now when i log on everything looks bad and the PC hangs. I can still do ssh. I have testes the old monitor and loks good again.
[11:31] <trijntje> Eightynine: sure, but how do you know you can trust that file?
[11:33] <maziar> when i want to send email from command line, ussing SSMTP, i get this error, what is this : ssmtp: Authorization failed (535 5.7.8 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 vq9sm11165342wjc.6 - gsmtp)
[11:33] <Desu> mamece2: read the xorg log
[11:33] <Desu> mamece2: maybe the edid is broken
[11:33] <Desu> mamece2: so that the wrong res gets set
[11:35] <Eightynine> All checksums are the same. It installed without problems. The only problem I had is very heavy load, but it's Gnome 3.10 problem, I'm sure in this, I compared 3.10 to 3.12 and 3.14.
[11:35] <teward> maziar: check your credentials and read the link they're giving you in that message
[11:35] <teward> maziar: it sounds like you're not giving correct credentials
[11:36] <bekks> Eightynine: Which checksums did you compare?
[11:37] <Desu> gnome 3.10 and 3.12 have some nasty memleaks, most were fixed in 3.14 but not all of them
[11:37] <Eightynine> Checksum from txt file comes with iso, checksum calculated in terminal and checksum from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/release/MD5SUMS
[11:37] <bekks> Eightynine: Compare the checksum of the ISO itself with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/release/MD5SUMS
[11:37] <Sohail-Ahmed> Should I use scp or rsync for local file transfer?
[11:38] <Eightynine> 3.10 has awful memory leaks. I updated Gnome from official repo, now it works a bit better.
[11:38] <teward> Sohail-Ahmed: define "Local file transfer"
[11:38] <Sohail-Ahmed> teward: over a lan/home network
[11:38] <maziar> teward, my gmail password has space like : "pa ssword"
[11:38] <maziar> teward, how should i fill pass field ?
[11:39] <teward> Sohail-Ahmed: that's not a 'local file transfer' - that's still considered a 'remote' file transfer.  I'd use rsync, but i prefer it.  you can use whichever you want
[11:39] <teward> maziar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ssmtp/+bug/1097172 might be relevant
[11:39] <Eightynine> All checksums are correct.
[11:40] <teward> maziar: you might have to change the password to not use a space, then, possibly, until the bug is fixed (if it's fixed)
[11:40] <bekks> Eightynine: Did you generate the checksum of the ISO file?
[11:40] <maziar> teward, thank you let me change it and check it
[11:40] <teward> maziar: and i mean at Google's side too
[11:40] <netroby> Kubuntu 15.04 so awesome
[11:40] <Eightynine> Of course.
[11:41] <maziar> teward, ;)
[11:41] <bekks> Eightynine: you said you compared the checksums from the textfile with the online checksums only.
[11:41] <Eightynine> I did it now.
[11:42] <Lyc0ris> こんにちは
[11:42] <Eightynine> Is there any way to get 3.14 or 3.16 on 14.04?
[11:43] <bekks> Eightynine: No.
[11:43] <Sohail-Ahmed> teward: thanks for clearing it but I am having a problem. I successful sent data from 192.168.9.9 to 192.168.9.5 while using scp but when I tried to do the same with rsync it does not accept the root password of destination machine
[11:43] <Sohail-Ahmed> teward: here is the link http://pastebin.com/xeENF6K3
[11:44] <Warsh1234> продам 29 человек в рабство
[11:44] <Warsh1234> не дорого
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Warsh1234, english only please
[11:44] <bekks> !ru | Warsh1234
[11:44] <swordsmanz> bekks he can just download a kernal from kernal.org and load it in
[11:44] <swordsmanz> Eightynine &
[11:44] <Eightynine> What>
[11:44] <bekks> swordsmanz: "kernel". And doing so will leave him without support in here.
[11:44] <bekks> Eightynine: Dont do it. :)
[11:45] <swordsmanz> that or download the src and compile for his version  of ubuntu and load that in
[11:45] <Eightynine> Do what? Install kernel?
[11:45] <swordsmanz> bekks the question was is it possible not is it adviseable
[11:45] <bekks> Eightynine: Yeah.
[11:45] <Eightynine> I will get issues?
[11:45] <Warsh1234> salling 29 people in slavery!
[11:45] <bekks> swordsmanz: Technically, yes it is possible. Viable, no it is not.
[11:46] <bekks> Eightynine: Yes, you will.
[11:46] <netroby> @Eightnine, Buy new PC . LOL...
[11:46] <denshipilov> hi
[11:46] <Warsh1234> salling 29 people in slavery!
[11:46] <Warsh1234> salling 29 people in slavery!
[11:46] <swordsmanz> Eightynine you might , but issues are how we learn
[11:47] <Eightynine> When I started to use Linux I got kernel panic everytime I compiled kernel or installed it from packages.
[11:47] <Warsh1234> i fucking your mother
[11:47] <bekks> !ops | Warsh1234
[11:47] <swordsmanz> its not so out of date that it would break a lot of things, however it might break _some_ things and the question is will it break anyting that you are likely to use
[11:47] <Jagon> hello , someone is here
[11:47] <Warsh1234> salling 29 people in slavery!
[11:47] <nakanut> charming
[11:47] <Eightynine> Why I need new PC?
[11:47] <Warsh1234> salling 29 people in slavery!
[11:47] <bekks> Eightynine: You dont, that was a joke.
[11:48] <Warsh1234> salling 29 people in slavery!
[11:48] <Warsh1234> salling 29 people in slavery!
[11:48] <Warsh1234> salling 29 people in slavery!
[11:48] <Eightynine> Stupid joke.
[11:48] <bekks> Eightynine: Indeed.
[11:48] <Jagon> Now I am learning Linux , this is my first time to use XChat
[11:48] <Jagon> I even don't know how to use it
[11:48] <Eightynine> And it's not 1 April.
[11:48] <swordsmanz> a pc is always reparable
[11:48] <bekks> swordsmanz: Hi PC isnt even broken.
[11:48] <bekks> *His
[11:49] <swordsmanz> bekks i know that
[11:49] <maziar> teward, this is my config, its not working http://pastebin.com/UHwLHKLU
[11:49] <swordsmanz> im not implying or infering that it is not
[11:49] <nakanut> Jagon: you're doing fine
[11:49] <maziar> when i want to send email from command line, ussing SSMTP, and this is my config http://pastebin.com/UHwLHKLU,,,, i get this error, what is this : ssmtp: Authorization failed (535 5.7.8 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 vq9sm11165342wjc.6 - gsmtp)
[11:49] <swordsmanz> im simply stateing that any device can be fixed with suficent effort and study o-o
[11:49] <Eightynine> I'm planning to replace my PC not earlier than in 2016. Maybe even 2017-2018
[11:50] <Eightynine> Whay is DCC?
[11:50] <Eightynine> What
[11:50] <ikonia> Eightynine: you're in #ubuntu IRC channel, for ubuntu support discussion
[11:50] <ikonia> what's the problem that relates to ubuntu ?
[11:50] <swordsmanz> Eightynine on irc its direct client connection
[11:51] <Eightynine> I aborted it but window is still hangs.
[11:51] <swordsmanz> its when you connect to another irc client bypassing freenode esentuialy to share a file or some data directly
[11:51] <maziar> when i want to send email from command line, ussing SSMTP, and this is my config http://pastebin.com/UHwLHKLU,,,, i get this error, what is this : ssmtp: Authorization failed (535 5.7.8 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 vq9sm11165342wjc.6 - gsmtp)
[11:51] <ikonia> maziar: your link doesn't work
[11:51] <ikonia> maziar: please wait longer than 60 seconds before repeating the question
[11:52] <netroby> If your PC crashes or have any other issues very often. you need to buy a new PC.
[11:52] <ikonia> no you don't
[11:52] <maziar> ikonia, my link works fine http://pastebin.com/UHwLHKLU
[11:52] <ikonia> a PC crash does not always mean hardware problems
[11:52] <swordsmanz> a pc crash almost never means a hardware problem
[11:52] <ikonia> maziar: that shows the config - not the problem
[11:53] <Eightynine> It's working, I have only software problems sometimes. Now I need just uninstall Firefox. That's all.
[11:53] <hkrrsx> morning
[11:53] <maziar> ikonia, did you know my question ?
[11:53] <ikonia> maziar: what do you mean ?
[11:53] <g-maurizi> can anyone tell me why "wget -O somefile && echo '1' > somefile" halts and NEVER returns? if I do "wget -O somefile && sleep 2 && echo '1' > somefile" it works....? wget is NOT backgrounded, it SHOULD wait to finish before proceeding to echo, and then return?
[11:53] <maziar> ikonia, did you even know SSMTP ?
[11:53] <ikonia> maziar: yes, hence why I'm asking you for the information,
[11:53] <ikonia> never mind - you can work it out yourself
[11:53] <Jagon> ?
[11:53] <maziar> ikonia, when i try to send email from command line i get this error : ssmtp: Authorization failed (535 5.7.8 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 vq9sm11165342wjc.6 - gsmtp)
[11:54] <murrdawg> Anyone flash a device with Linux, i.e. Acer A500 tablet?
[11:54] <Eightynine> Maybe press N in terminal and remove Firefox from Software Centre?
[11:54] <g-maurizi> maziar: ssmtp is secure smtp
[11:54] <ikonia> maziar: so the auth is failing
[11:54] <Desu> murrdawg: someone has
[11:54] <ikonia> maziar: did you read the link that the error gives you
[11:54] <murrdawg> Desu: who though? I'm struggling with fastboot
[11:54] <maziar> ikonia, why ? on web mail i dont have auth problem
[11:55] <ikonia> maziar: webmail is not smtp auth over TLS
[11:55] <Desu> maziar: check your account security settings
[11:55] <maziar> ikonia, yes i read, if you dont know about this please dont spam in IRC
[11:55] <ikonia> also the port
[11:55] <g-maurizi> maziar: your webmail probably is using smtp not ssmtp
[11:56] <g-maurizi> do I have to spam my question in this #room? there's alot of noise...
[11:56] <ikonia> no
[11:56] <ikonia> do not spam
[11:56] <ikonia> just ask the question and wait for a response
[11:56] <g-maurizi> It's been asked
[11:57] <ikonia> then wait for an answer
[11:57] <Eightynine> Deleted Firefox and everything works. Maybe I should logoff or reboot to check if everything is working?
[11:57] <g-maurizi> Interesting that it's taking this long for one.
[11:57] <ikonia> not really
[11:58] <ikonia> people can help with what they want when they want
[11:58] <swordsmanz> g-maurizi that is likely not going to get an answer here, i would test and see but i dont have acsess to a bash terminal here to experement
[11:58] <g-maurizi> that's what I was afraid of. Thanks
[11:58] <swordsmanz> not for another hour or so anyway :S
[11:58] <ikonia> swordsmanz: thats just nonsense
[11:58] <maziar> ikonia, fuck you stupid ass hole
[11:58] <g-maurizi> wow
[11:58] <g-maurizi> goodbye maziar.. lol
[11:58] <swordsmanz> ikonia nonesense how ?
[11:58] <nakanut> oh dear
[11:58] <ikonia> swordsmanz: saying it's likley to not get an answer for an hour
[11:59] <g-maurizi> Sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk, It's just a simple question, so I am wondering if the question doesn't make sense to begin with.
[11:59] <ikonia> g-maurizi: you don't know if it's a simple question or not,
[11:59] <swordsmanz> ikonia well i dont see anyone else answering and i dont have a terminal to telst for another hur so it will likely be forgotten about o-o
[11:59] <g-maurizi> wget should wait before proceeding if it's not backgrounded, right?
[12:00] <g-maurizi> ikonia: I asked the question, and I certainly know bash, I think it's a fairly simple question.
[12:00] <ikonia> swordsmanz: thats fine - but don't make stuff up about he won't get an answer for an hour
[12:00] <ikonia> g-maurizi: if it's simple - why can't you answer it if you know bash
[12:00] <g-maurizi> I know the answer to the question, I'm asking why bash is proceeding before wget finishes, (IT SHOULD NOT).
[12:00] <kushly> any body able to help me figure out why my webcam works in cheese but no where else
[12:01] <BBLLCC> there is a command to download youtube videos directly from the terminal, i forgot it
[12:01] <g-maurizi> Doing the same thing in perl works fine.
[12:01] <BBLLCC> can anyone paste it?
[12:01] <ikonia> g-maurizi: so it's not simple then
[12:01] <maziar_> ikonia, when you dont know problems and answer shutup please !
[12:01] <g-maurizi> That's what I meant when I said "i'm wondering if the question simply doesn't make sense."
[12:01] <g-maurizi> Ty
[12:02] <BBLLCC> well that escalated quickly
[12:02] <ikonia> g-maurizi: hang on a moment, let me have a look, I've not even seen the question properly
[12:02] <Eightynine> Everythig is working after logoff. Sometimes one should take a risk.
[12:02] <g-maurizi> kushly: please elaborate, by 'no where else', what exactly is 'no where else'?
[12:04] <kushly> g-maurizi: skype chatroulette  cheese seems to be the only app that reads my web cam { micro innovations}
[12:04] <ikonia> g-maurizi: I'm surprised, your syntax looks well wrong
[12:04] <ikonia> you do -O but don't specify an out file
[12:05] <g-maurizi> I must have made a typo.
[12:05] <ikonia> g-maurizi: looks that way
[12:05] <Eightynine> Yesterday I chose wallpaper and lockscreen. I have that wallpaper and my lockscreen is stock. Why?
[12:05] <swordsmanz> Eightynine your lock screen is managed by a diferent programme to your desktop
[12:06] <swordsmanz> you need to change the out the defualt image in your display manager
[12:06] <g-maurizi> ikonia: please look again..
[12:06] <ikonia> g-maurizi: why ?
[12:06] <ikonia> g-maurizi: what's changed
[12:07] <g-maurizi> wget -O savefile http://somesiite.com is correct
[12:07] <kushly> tried this cmd in the termimal from the forums 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype but get errors
[12:07] <Eightynine> I thought that I chose that picture not only for lockscreen but for login screen too.
[12:07] <ikonia> g-maurizi: thats not what you posted
[12:07] <ikonia> g-maurizi> can anyone tell me why "wget -O somefile && echo '1' > somefile"
[12:07] <swordsmanz> Eightynine sometimes it can be tricky to change display manager things from a user account becouse its running in its own usersapce
[12:07] <ikonia> g-maurizi: that is what you posted
[12:08] <bekks> Eightynine: Which you didnt, apparently.
[12:08] <ikonia> g-maurizi: your syntax is wrong
[12:09] <g-maurizi> ikonia: sorry, I forgot the URL, question still stands, and I'm certainly using a URL in the bash script.
[12:10] <ikonia> g-maurizi: just to clarify - could you please post the exact command you're using
[12:10] <netroby> What kernel version are you using?
[12:11] <g-maurizi> ikonia: wget -O /tmp/adblock.list http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/iplist.php?ipformat=plain&showintro=0&mimetype=plaintext && echo '1' > /tmp/adblock.list
[12:11] <netroby> The 3.19kernel seems not stable for me with Kubuntu 15.04
[12:11] <ikonia> g-maurizi: thank you
[12:11] <netroby> I am still using 3.18 kernel
[12:11] <ikonia> g-maurizi: can I ask why you are doing this
[12:11] <ikonia> g-maurizi: that command makes no sense
[12:11] <Eightynine> screenfetch is not available in Ubuntu repos?
[12:11] <ikonia> g-maurizi: you're downloading a file then overwriting it with the number 1 as soon as it downloads
[12:12] <g-maurizi> ikonia: it's just a reference, obviously I'm not nullifying the output of adblock.list in the bash script, it continues on with sed to format the list for ipset.
[12:12] <cfhowlett> netroby, 15.04 is still in beta and so not supported in this channel.  please take it to #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <g-maurizi> the proceeding command shouldn't matter though
[12:13] <netroby> I am not talking much more about Ubuntu version. i am talking about Kernel with Ubuntu
[12:13] <g-maurizi> I've encountered this many times, where I have to sleep 1 before continue after wget, and I have never heard a for sure answer why.
[12:13] <ikonia> g-maurizi: hit return - does it return to a shall prompt
[12:14] <g-maurizi> Yes, it does, but echo did not run
[12:14] <g-maurizi> oh crap.. I need to silence verbosity of wget ?
[12:14] <ikonia> g-maurizi: looks that way
[12:15] <ikonia> g-maurizi: you just beat me to it
[12:15] <g-maurizi> lol, ty ikonia. let me give that a try.
[12:16] <Eightynine> How can I install screenfetch and clipboard manager?
[12:17] <g-maurizi> ikonia: How wacky, "wget -q -O /tmp/adblock.list http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/iplist.php?ipformat=plain&showintro=0&mimetype=plaintext && echo '1' > /tmp/adblock.list" doesn't echo 1 to /tmp/adblock.list it echoes the 'silenced wget out' to the end of /tmp/adblock.list
[12:17] <ManWithIssiues> Hy all.. any1 awaible to help me out?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !ask | ManWithIssiues
[12:17] <g-maurizi> two lines containing the "done" message from 'silenced' wget output get postpended to /tmp/adblock.list
[12:17] <ikonia> g-maurizi: I get "1" in my tmp file
[12:17] <ikonia> seems to work just fine for me
[12:18] <g-maurizi> ikonia: are you using "wget -q -O /tmp/adblock.list http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/iplist.php?ipformat=plain&showintro=0&mimetype=plaintext && echo '1' > /tmp/adblock.list" exactly?
[12:18] <ManWithIssiues> I installed wrong packet and have no picture now at login
[12:18] <ikonia> g-maurizi: with the -q it doesn't work
[12:18] <ikonia> g-maurizi: without the -q it does
[12:20] <g-maurizi> ikonia: I think we are seeing varying behaviour for the same input.. for me, without -q echo never runs and I have to hit enter to return to the shell, with -q it does return to the shell but appends the wrong thing to adblock.list -- it appends "[3]-  Done                    wget -q -O /tmp/adblock.list http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/iplist.php?ipformat=plain"
[12:20] <ikonia> g-maurizi: I think it's because the && - if it's not closing the wget (which it's not) it's returning false so not running the echo
[12:20] <g-maurizi> ahhhH!
[12:20] <mamece2> Desu: hello, how can i read the xorg log?
[12:20] <ikonia> g-maurizi: which I think depends how well/quick the wget works
[12:21] <Desu> mamece2: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:21] <Desu> or any other pager/editor
[12:21] <g-maurizi> That's what I was thinking initially, with sleep 1, different urls require different amount of time to sleep.. Interesting. Ty. :)
[12:21] <ManWithIssiues> Please help
[12:22] <ikonia> g-maurizi: wget is the "varible" here, even if it's not intentional
[12:22] <mamece2> Desu: everything looks good at the first log in screen. But when i input my credentials... The machine starts to act funny and It get useless..
[12:22] <Desu> hmm
[12:22] <Desu> that doesn't sound like it is related to changing the monitor
[12:23] <Desu> but check for edid errors and what res it detects
[12:25] <ManWithIssiues> Any1?
[12:25] <berndl42> irc://irc.abjects.net:6667/beast-xdcc
[12:26] <g-maurizi> ikonia: you're absolutely correct, if I type the wget into a terminal it does return(without error), If instead of using && I simply use a new line with "echo '1' > /tmp/adblock.list" echo never runs. So as far as bash is concerned wget is never completing(it seems).
[12:26] <ikonia> g-maurizi: seems reasonable
[12:26] <mamece2> Desu: I am booting again with the old monitor. And I confirm the problem remains... I will ssh to the pc and check xorg
[12:27] <Desu> mamece2: pcie gfx card?
[12:27] <mamece2> Desu: no, just an old nvidia
[12:27] <Desu> define old
[12:28] <Desu> agp? pci?
[12:28] <Desu> what I really ment thogh is if it is a dedicated card or not
[12:28] <Desu> if it is, then you could try to reseat it, in case it wiggled loose when you changed monitors or similar
[12:29] <mamece2> Desu: wait and i will give you the exact model, The pc hangs when I log in , I cant even ssh. I need to boot and at log in screen do the ssh
[12:29] <ManWithIssiues> any1 copy?
[12:29] <mamece2> Desu: Ok, I will turn it off and reseat it. then at log in screen do the ssh
[12:29] <Desu> ManWithIssiues: no, we only respond to actual words, not sms speach
[12:31] <swordsmanz> Desu u r neva 2 gd for txt tlk
[12:31] <swordsmanz> it dose need to be inteleagable tho
[12:31] <ManWithIssiues> Ok.. how to explain to u that i instaled the wrong program and got no screen now?
[12:33] <ikonia> ManWithIssiues: just explain the problem - clearly
[12:34] <ManWithIssiues> Got no screen at login?
[12:34] <ikonia> ManWithIssiues: why ? what did you change
[12:34] <ManWithIssiues> I tryed to install better graphic driver... now got darkness
[12:34] <ikonia> where did you get the "better" driver and how did you install it
[12:35] <x_neo_x> hey guys, my ubuntu machine is behaving bit weird http://postimg.org/image/4cifuv1eb/76d42a7c/
[12:35]  * swordsmanz has $5 on it being an amd one 
[12:35] <x_neo_x> you can notice the menu bar with transparency and blur .. what might be the problem?
[12:36] <uptree> hi guys, is the difference between a symlink and a hardlink in linux  similar (or the same) as shallow and deep copies in C++?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> x_neo_x, was it always this way?  or have you changed something recently
[12:36] <x_neo_x> yesterday when I logged in i noticed this
[12:37] <mamece2> Desu: it a pcie slot card. its been reseated. it was even screw im sure its not loose. idk if u want to see a paste bin from  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:37] <Irenicus> Hi, does anyone have Ubuntu on Samsung Chronos 7 laptop? I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu on mine but I'm worried about the old news concerning how the install can brick your laptop if you're not careful. Is this still a problem?
[12:37] <swordsmanz> uptree a hard ink is where the file system actually stores the file, a symbolic link is a system entry that when loaded to memory alocates a different (symbolic) link to a file that is different to the value stored in the file system
[12:38] <Desu> mamece2: trow it in bpaste.net or gist.github.com
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Irenicus, that's old news and shouldn't not effect you
[12:38] <Desu> mamece2: also read the gdm log / .xsession-errors
[12:38] <uptree> swordsmanz: great, thanks for the clarification!
[12:42] <g-maurizi> omfg, I had to wrap the url...
[12:43] <g-maurizi> wget needs a -q option that outputs NOTHING not outputs 'less', if i wanted 'less' i'd use a verbosity level or something.
[12:45] <mamece2> Desu: please explain me about gdm log / .xsession-errors
[12:46] <Desu> mamece2: /var/log/gdm
[12:46] <Desu> .xsession-errors is in your $HOME if present
[12:46] <mamece2> Desu: https://bpaste.net/show/c8de367df64e first commands
[12:47] <Desu> vga cable?
[12:47] <mamece2> Desu:  no /var/log/gdm   -  Yes VGA cable. right now theres the old CRT connected
[12:48] <Desu> find /var/log -name '*gdm*'
[12:48] <Desu> asuming you are using gdm as your DM ofcourse
[12:48] <mamece2> im using lightdm
[12:48] <EriC^^> mamece2: what's the problem?
[12:49] <mamece2> EriC^^: Hello, I just bought a new lcd monitor, I connected it to Ubuntu 14.04 and now when i log on everything looks bad and the PC hangs. I can still do ssh.
[12:49] <EriC^^> mamece2: which graphics driver do you use usually?
[12:49] <swordsmanz> mam can you use ctl alt f1 to drop to terminal ?
[12:50] <Desu> no idea where lightdm logs to
[12:50] <EriC^^> mamece2: and when does everything look bad? at the login or after you login?
[12:50] <Desu> mamece2: can you use dvi for the other monitor?
[12:50] <mamece2> after I log in
[12:50] <EriC^^> Desu: /var/log/lightdm/ *
[12:50] <Voltasalt_> Whenever I access a specific folder on one of my hard drives, I get a "This location could not be displayed."
[12:50] <Voltasalt_> Why?
[12:50] <mamece2> Desu: I just have a vga connector  , sorry
[12:50] <Desu> mamece2: also, try with just a simple wm instead of a full de
[12:51] <Desu> Voltasalt_: what is the path?
[12:51] <EriC^^> mamece2: ok try deleting the file ~/.monitors.xml or something like that
[12:51] <mamece2> the graphic driver are nvidia
[12:51] <EriC^^> mamece2: or maybe rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something
[12:51] <Voltasalt_> Desu: I was backing up an old Windows install to an external harddrive. /media/marvin/Data/Old Windows Stuff
[12:51] <EriC^^> mamece2: did you try the guest account?
[12:52] <mamece2> let me try the guess account
[12:52] <EriC^^> ok
[12:52] <Desu> Voltasalt_: what path do you get the error on?
[12:53] <Voltasalt_> Desu: Not sure what you mean. "Sorry, could not display all the contents of “Old Windows Stuff”: Error when getting information for file '/media/marvin/Data/Old Windows Stuff/Marvin': Input/output error"
[12:53] <EriC^^> Voltasalt_: is it still mounted? type df
[12:53] <mamece2> EriC^^: Desu just the mouse pointer... and... now is black , also hanged , its not reacting
[12:53] <Voltasalt_> EriC^^: yes, /dev/sda1 (Data) shows up fine
[12:54] <Voltasalt_> for some reason the large hdd is sda, while my os SSD is sdb
[12:54] <Desu> Voltasalt_: that is different from the error you first posted
[12:54] <Desu> Voltasalt_: input/output error usually means that there is a hardware issue
[12:54] <Desu> (or sometimes, a corrupt fs)
[12:54] <Desu> Voltasalt_: time to fsck and smart that disk/partition
[12:55] <Voltasalt_> Desu: "This location could not be displayed" is the title of the window, what I posted above is the content
[12:55] <Desu> Voltasalt_: is it ntfs btw?
[12:55] <Voltasalt_> yes
[12:55] <Desu> well, you will have to checkdisk it from windows then
[12:55] <Desu> to do the filesystem level check
[12:55] <Voltasalt_> I don't care particularily much about the data on it, but it would nice if i wouldn't have to wipe it
[12:55] <Voltasalt_> Don't have a working windows install, hence why I was backing it up to reinstall. Any way of using it from linux?
[12:56] <Voltasalt_> This is only a particular folder btw, every other folder works fine. If I deleted the offending one and re-filled it, would the error go away?
[12:58] <mamece2> Desu:  i found the og for lightdm  https://bpaste.net/show/2be0d972cd42
[13:00] <marsupapu> Does anyone have any successful experiences with iPods and Ubuntu?
[13:00] <Desu> marsupapu: someone has, yes
[13:01] <Desu> marsupapu: ymmv depending on the exact model
[13:01] <Desu> marsupapu: the old ones just works(tm), the newer ones are just paper weights
[13:01] <marsupapu> I have this iPod Classic 80GB from ~2008 and it mounted nicely few years ago
[13:01] <Desu> ipod classic works fine
[13:01] <Desu> gtkphod, clementine and a bunch of others supports them
[13:02] <marsupapu> Now it shows in caja and in lsusb but doesn't mount, so it doesn't create icon on desktop and so banshee or gtkpod cant access it.
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !ipod | marsupapu
[13:03] <mamece2> Help me Desu you are my only hope (bis)
[13:04] <ManWithIssues> I am back..
[13:04] <marsupapu> I've read those links but still I can't mount that thing.
[13:05] <marsupapu> As they all assume that the iPod mounts as it should.
[13:05] <mamece2> Desu:  theres seems to be not a graphic problems. Is there any other log I can check to see why my pc hangs when i log into Ubuntu?
[13:06] <Sramelyor> hey
[13:06] <Sramelyor> I have a problem
[13:06] <Sramelyor> can somebody help me
[13:06] <AppleCIDR> !ask | Sramelyor
[13:07] <Sramelyor> thanks
[13:07] <EriC^^> mamece2: did you try booting using nomodeset?
[13:07] <Sramelyor> okay
[13:07] <Sramelyor> I just installed ubuntu
[13:07] <Sramelyor> and I even installed the virtual box on ubuntu
[13:08] <Sramelyor> I wanted to create a virtual machine running Windows OS
[13:08] <Sramelyor> I have bought the windows 8 serial key
[13:08] <Sramelyor> nodisc
[13:08] <Sramelyor> no disc
[13:08] <EriC^^> why dont you just dual boot
[13:08] <Sramelyor> I need to download the iso file
[13:08] <Ullarah> Why not just use wine?
[13:08] <Sramelyor> Where can I download the iso file of windows 8
[13:08] <EriC^^> Sramelyor: /join ##windows
[13:08] <Sramelyor> okay
[13:08] <Sramelyor> tnx
[13:10] <Sramelyor> I asked them
[13:10] <Sramelyor> They asked me to download the upgrade assistant
[13:10] <Sramelyor> wine isn't able to run it
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, then don't wine.  dual boot.
[13:11] <Sramelyor> I need to iso to dual boot
[13:11] <EriC^^> Sramelyor: which windows?
[13:11] <Sramelyor> windows 8
[13:11] <Sramelyor> not 8.1
[13:11] <EriC^^> try eightforums.com
[13:11] <EriC^^> there are a bunch of iso's on the net
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2s6y80/hint_for_people_who_might_miss_windows_you_can/
[13:12] <EriC^^> there's one hosted on google i believe
[13:13] <Sramelyor> thanks. Checking it out
[13:13] <Sramelyor> right now
[13:15] <Sramelyor> damn
[13:15] <Sramelyor> no
[13:16] <Sramelyor> not able to find
[13:16] <jinti> how to make command+c like as ctrl-c , my ubuntu is installed in my macbook pro.
[13:16] <Sramelyor> so u think dual booting is better or running a vm of windows on ubuntu is better?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, this is in no way an ubuntu issue.  there are hundreds of links, even legal links, to download win8.  seek and find
[13:16] <Boudinet> Hi folks
[13:16] <MasterChief10> Hello, do ISP can steal my XMPP conversation? (in order XMPP uses SSL)
[13:17] <Boudinet> How are you doing ?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> MasterChief10, in theory, sure, it's possible.
[13:17] <Sramelyor> sorry cfhowlett but windows comunity sucks so bad. None of them are replying properly. Only u guys are. Like actually
[13:17] <MasterChief10> cfhowlett: how?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, yes, but you *can* do a search for yourself ... :)
[13:18] <cfhowlett> MasterChief10, no internet traffic is 100% secure.  the how is above my pay grade
[13:18] <ircfox> Hello folks!
[13:19] <ircfox> Does anybody know a good Linux course online?
[13:19] <chotaz> Generally, computers aren't safe.
[13:19] <chotaz> Neither is information.
[13:19]  * rcombs kills chotaz for knowing too much
[13:19] <cfhowlett> ircfox, coursera has a nice one
[13:20] <ircfox> cfhowlett: thank you!
[13:21] <Sramelyor> cfhowlett : Do you think dual booting is better or running a vm of windows on ubuntu is better?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, I have an opinion, but it fits my use case.  YMMV.
[13:21] <rcombs> what do you care more about: performance on Windows or convenience when switching between Windows and Ubuntu software
[13:21] <Sramelyor> performance
[13:22] <rcombs> dual-boot, then
[13:22] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, if you need full windows performance, dual boot.
[13:22] <Sramelyor> but how are they different. Isn't the purpose of vm to actually emulate the full experince of another os on top of the host os?
[13:23] <stelo> good evening
[13:23] <Sramelyor> Sorry for bothering so much. But still. Just asking if u don't mind
[13:23] <EriC^^> it will be slower, and you can't use the gpu etc.
[13:23] <Sramelyor> ohhh
[13:23] <Sramelyor> tnx :)
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, emulation isn't the same as running natively ...
[13:24] <Sramelyor> I had a problem with dual boot once. I uninstalled pinguy os and the grub failed. It gave me a big headache
[13:24] <Sramelyor> How do I prevent that from happening again
[13:24] <Sramelyor> ?
[13:24] <EriC^^> Sramelyor: if you install windows, and then install ubuntu, you could dd the mbr to a file, and dd it back when you uninstall ubuntu
[13:24] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, you running linux.  you are a sysadmin.  assume you will have issues and learn to fix them.  "reinstall grub"
[13:25] <EriC^^> Sramelyor: or just use the windows cd to write the mbr after you uninstall ubuntu
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[13:25] <Sramelyor> what is mbr?
[13:25] <EriC^^> master boot record
[13:25] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor, for that matter, you could install windows >> virtualbox >> ubuntu vbox
[13:26] <Sramelyor> But I literally wanted to just move away from windows. Once in for all. Guess I can't
[13:26] <Sramelyor> idk
[13:26] <Sramelyor> I am new to ubuntu
[13:26] <mamece2> EriC^^: how do I boot in that mode nomodeset?
[13:26] <EriC^^> just dual boot, if you need something in windows use it
[13:27] <EriC^^> you'll get used to ubuntu in no time
[13:27] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | mamece2
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:41] <john_doe_jr> when I do a which -a python3-setuptools why doesn't it show a location?
[13:42] <ttfn32768> Looks like a whole lot of nothing going on here.
[13:42] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: type locate python3-setuptools
[13:43] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: maybe it's not in your $PATH so which doesn't show it
[13:43] <john_doe_jr> not b/c pip list shows that it is installed
[13:43] <john_doe_jr> how do you determine what packages were installed using apt-get install ?
[13:43] <EriC^^> where?
[13:44] <john_doe_jr> I would like to search for any packages that have been installed w/ apt-get install…I'm looking to see if python-setuptools has already been installed
[13:44] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: apt-cache policy <package>
[13:47] <Sramelyor> Vivid vervet is being released soon. Once I upgrade will I still have all the packages and extra softwares that I had installed on Utopic Unicorn?
[13:47] <Sramelyor> Vivid vervet is being released soon. Once I upgrade will I still have all the packages and extra softwares that I had installed on Utopic Unicorn?
[13:48] <john_doe_jr> I'm trying to write a script that will attempt to install a bunch of packages…apt-cache policy python3-setuptools does show that it has already been installed but how would I make some decisions in my script to install python3-setuptools if it was not installed..do a search for the package and then a if [$? -eq 0] ] then apt-get install fi " ?
[13:49] <Peace-> guys i can't kill virtuabox VBoXSVC
[13:49] <Peace-> I tried with killall -9 kill pid
[13:49] <Peace-> everything i know but i can't kill it
[13:51] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: you could do if [ $(dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep -c <package>) -eq 1 ]; then <do something>; fi
[13:52] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: you probably should do something else
[13:52] <daNRG> Peace-, are you sure about the pid? VirtualBox starts more than one process when running a machine
[13:53] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: this is better if [ $(dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ {print$2}' | grep -cx <package>) -eq 1 ]; then <do something>; fi
[13:53] <Peace-> daNRG: yes i tried everything it's unkillable
[13:53] <john_doe_jr> Well, when I do the following to see if easy_install3 is installed I does not show that it is installed: apt-cache policy easy_install3 | grep Installed
[13:53] <john_doe_jr> any ideas why?
[13:54] <EriC^^> it will check to see if the exact name exists, the other one would mess up if there's another package that has that name in it
[13:54] <Sramelyor> EriC^^ Vivid vervet is being released soon. Once I upgrade will I still have all the packages and extra softwares that I had installed on Utopic Unicorn?
[13:54] <EriC^^> Sramelyor: yeah
[13:54] <Sramelyor> yes?? So it will still be there after I upgrade?
[13:54] <Sramelyor> Cool
[13:54] <dc7900> o/
[13:55] <Peace-> daNRG: i will reboot that sseem the only way
[13:55] <Peace-> but it's not of course a fix
[13:55] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: what does apt-cache policy easytools2 return?
[13:56] <daNRG> it's strange that even kill -9 wont stop it
[13:56] <Sramelyor> Lets say I am changing my laptop. I have already downloaded a 1000(exxagerated) packages and softwares on my previous system. How do I get them all on to the new system. or do I have to install eacha dn every package again? If so then how can I view each and every package and software that I have installed on the previous machine
[13:57] <eikon81g> !synaptic
[13:57] <john_doe_jr> EriC^^: does not show that it is installed but it is installed @ /usr/bin/easy_install3
[13:57] <Peace-> daNRG: http://paste.opensuse.org/6523570
[13:58] <EriC^^> !find easy _install3
[13:58] <EriC^^> !find easy_install3
[13:58] <eikon81g> Sramelyor: as far as I know you need to re-download all the programs you want you can use synaptic to view them all on your current machine
[13:58] <Sramelyor> oh
[13:58] <Sramelyor> tnx EriC^^ :)
[13:59] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: if [ $(apt-cache policy <package> | awk '/Installed/ {print $2}') = "(none)" ]; then <package not installed>; fi
[13:59] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: you have to search for python3-setuptools
[13:59] <EriC^^> Sramelyor: no problem :)
[14:00] <eikon81g> well that's good to know as well :) ty sir
[14:02] <meanbunny> hello
[14:03] <carmelo1989> 有中国人啊？
[14:05] <tonyt> carmelo1989 you are what you eat
[14:05] <comodo_dragon> :D
[14:05] <carmelo1989> ／
[14:06] <carmelo1989> ／say <tonyt> ？
[14:06] <m1dnight_> Guys, im having some issues with Ubuntu UFW
[14:06] <yeats> !cn | carmelo1989
[14:06] <m1dnight_> I have allowed port 6881:6891 in UFC, but i still get logs of that port begin blocked
[14:06] <m1dnight_> any tips?
[14:06] <carmelo1989> thankyou
[14:07] <m1dnight_> "6881:6891/tcp              ALLOW       Anywhere" this is in UFW
[14:07] <carmelo1989> ／quit
[14:07] <m1dnight_> yet, I see a few log entries like these:
[14:09] <m1dnight_> Apr  3 15:48:02 testarossa kernel: [2211127.359047] [UFW BLOCK] IN=p5p1 OUT= MAC=bc:5f:f4:9a:a9:1e:bc:ee:7b:34:de:48:08:00 SRC=46.165.220.231 DST=192.168.1.130 LEN=40 TOS=0x18 TTL=54 ID=16678 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=20022 DPT=6889 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0
[14:10] <nullbyte_> when should be release a new ubuntu?
[14:11] <SchrodingersScat> nullbyte_: normally sometime at the end of the month when it's a release, like 15.04 should be soon
[14:11] <nullbyte_> ok
[14:12] <m1dnight_> oh, i mean UFW, btw
[14:12] <SchrodingersScat> !releases | nullbyte_, this might have more detail
[14:20] <ManWithIssiues> Hy.. can someone please help me undo installation of a program I installed? Graphic related
[14:20] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | ManWithIssiues
[14:21] <ManWithIssiues> OK, please help
[14:22] <pbx> ManWithIssiues, also give full details. what program? how did you install it? what have you tried to do to uninstall it, and how did it fail?
[14:22] <anarx> Ubuntu 14.04 - Macbook 5,2 .... No sound on headphones, any ideas ?
[14:23] <ManWithIssiues> Look.. I don't know Linux much.. and I get black screen after boot/login do to an graphic error - I installed wrong drivers
[14:24] <SchrodingersScat> that's more than you gave us before
[14:25] <ManWithIssiues> I.. installed one of amd graphic .. don't know exactly.. Ubuntu software
[14:26] <ManWithIssiues> No undo process yet..
[14:29] <ManWithIssiues> Can someone please help my pc?
[14:30] <compdoc> if you pay airfare
[14:30] <ManWithIssiues> :-)
[14:34] <ManWithIssiues> Got graphic related problem :-$  wrong installation over Ubuntu software.. please help!
[14:37] <ManWithIssiues> Any copy?? Please.. I need data from my PC :'(  otherwise I would reinstall.. :-(
[14:37] <compdoc> ManWithIssiues, just boot the system with the Ubuntu CD
[14:37] <compdoc> then you can access your files
[14:38] <ManWithIssiues> Can't access HD.. encrypted.. need undo of graphic install
[14:39] <ManWithIssiues> Please help
[14:40] <compdoc> ManWithIssiues, can you reach teh login screen?
[14:40] <compdoc> what happens when you boot?
[14:42] <ManWithIssiues> I pressed alt Ctrl f(x) got verbose mode? Got login tty4..status: log in complete
[14:42] <ManWithIssiues> Otherwise dark screen
[14:44] <compdoc> so you can reach a terminal screen to type in commands?
[14:44] <ManWithIssiues> Tty? 4
[14:44] <compdoc> I dont know what youre saying
[14:45] <ManWithIssiues> Alt + Ctrl + f(x)
[14:45] <compdoc> so you can reach a terminal screen to type in commands?
[14:46] <ManWithIssiues> It asked me to login .. I did. I looks the same as terminal on desktop.. so.. I think yes
[14:47] <compdoc> is it an AMD or intel or nvidia gpu?
[14:48] <Joshun> anyone know if the gimp packaged with ubuntu 14.10 is buggy? locking a layer seems to have no effect
[14:48] <ManWithIssiues> Hell... I don't know.. I know I installed amd  driver.. I was trying to play gt4  over pcsx2.. and got fps problems...
[14:49] <Joshun> seems like to much of a big thing to be a bug though, I must be doing something wrong somewhere
[14:50] <compdoc> ManWithIssiues, try the command:    lspci -v | grep VGA
[14:53] <Joshun> problem solved, looks like they made it more advanced so you have to turn on "lock pixels"
[14:54] <ManWithIssiues> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470] (prog-if 00 [VGA Controller])
[14:56] <secondchoice> Hello everyone.
[14:56] <secondchoice> http://pastebin.com/819kBLRS      it get blocked there, any time i try synaptic or others, i tried rebooting 10 times, and waiting 2sec to 2 hours, it stall there, any can help plz?
[14:56] <compdoc> ManWithIssiues, great. you should be able to run a command to undo this. Let me see if I can find the right one
[14:57] <yeats> ManWithIssiues: you might benefit from reading this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2269080
[14:57] <compdoc> ManWithIssiues, does this file exist?    /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[14:58] <yeats> ManWithIssiues: basically it looks like (from comments on this thread) ATI/AMD no longer supports that model, so you're probably stuck with the default open source drivers
[14:58]  * yeats avoids ATI cards for that exact reason - they just drop support for older cards (nVidia has longer support for older models, fwiw)
[14:59] <compdoc> ATI probably cant afford to support old cards because ppl like you dont buy ATI
[15:00] <ManWithIssiues> No such file
[15:01] <yeats> compdoc: that's nonsense
[15:01] <huig> hello, i would like to write a udev rule valid for any usb storage device..i have only found specific rules involving the serial number or other things that are usb-device-specific
[15:01] <ManWithIssiues> :'(
[15:02] <ManWithIssiues> I loved ati once upon a time..
[15:04] <ManWithIssiues> Than my dead came at home and killed my PC...
[15:05] <ManWithIssiues> So.. can someone please help me out with uninstall?
[15:05] <compdoc> ManWithIssiues, this is probably the best way:  http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Catalyst-Linux-Installer-Notes.aspx#Uninstall
[15:06] <compdoc> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[15:09] <compdoc> ManWithIssiues, this seems better:     http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[15:10] <ManWithIssiues> I can't see this... I am on tablet... :-(  it does not open
[15:11] <jokx> msg hi
[15:12] <ManWithIssiues> Compdoc?
[15:14] <Na_Klar> Might there be a reason why my Lubuntu 14.04.2 does not accept the keyboard input "up+right+g"? When holding up and right simultaniously I cannot print a "g" or "h" character (and some other) anywhere. Not in Leafpad or Terminal or when playing a game. Other key combinations are fine. This happens with the laptop keyboard as well as when using a USB keyboard. Is this OS related, or is my hardware just silly? (Acer E15 571)?
[15:15] <secondchoice> http://pastebin.com/819kBLRS      it get blocked there, any time i try synaptic or others, i tried rebooting 10 times, and waiting 2sec to 2 hours, it stall there, any can help plz?
[15:16] <excalibr> So I drop a .desktop shortcut into .local/share/applications but clicking on it in dash does nothing. It won't even launch until I manually kill Unity to force it to reload all shortcuts. Is there more proper way to get the same effect?
[15:16] <yeats> excalibr: you could look into menulibre or alacarte
[15:17] <excalibr> yeats, what are those?
[15:18] <somsip> !find creator
[15:18] <ManWithIssiues> Someone please help !!
[15:18] <yeats> !info menulibre | excalibr
[15:18] <yeats> !info alacarte | excalibr
[15:19] <yeats> excalibr: they're available from the software center (or your APT tool of choice)
[15:20] <excalibr> menu editor? umm I dont see how it will help
[15:22] <yeats> excalibr: you asked "Is there more proper way to get the same effect?" - those fit the bill if I understood your issue correctly
[15:23] <excalibr> yeats, but Im not trying to edit shortcut menus. Just want them to be refreshed unity application cache
[15:24] <excalibr> *refreshed in unity
[15:30] <ManWithIssiues> Someone please help... :'(
[15:31] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, ?
[15:32] <saivert> I extracted livesystem.squasfs to a harddisk, then chrooted into it upgraded packages installed kernel and so on. then when I boot from it I am forced to login as a temporary Guest user.
[15:32] <saivert> any way to actually set it up as a real system and not a live system?
[15:33] <ManWithIssiues> Got graphic problem... I installed wrong driver... Ubuntu software.. need an undo.. :'(
[15:33] <saivert> how does the Ubuntu installed set up a system anyways. it has no option of just extracting to a mountpoint. it insists on partitioning and formatting
[15:34] <saivert> I have already prepared a btrfs subvolume that I call "ubuntu". I want to install Ubuntu there and boot from it using rootflags=subvol=ubuntu on the kernel command line
[15:34] <saivert> I tried using debootstrap to install that way but that leaves me with a nonbooting system
[15:34] <saivert> at least using the live cd image works but forces me to login as guest
[15:35] <saivert> This wiki is useless. it only talks about customizing an a disc image: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[15:36] <Ben64> saivert: thats because you're looking at a page on customizing a disc image...
[15:36] <saivert> no doh!
[15:37] <saivert> Why is it forcing me to login as a guest user? I ran passwd to set root password and also created a regular user account. but something overrides this during boot and I'm not even allowed to su or sudo when logged in as the guest user.
[15:38] <Ben64> what are you trying to accomplish
[15:38] <saivert> did you just join?
[15:38] <Ben64> nope
[15:38] <saivert> I have already prepared a btrfs subvolume that I call "ubuntu". I want to install Ubuntu there and boot from it using rootflags=subvol=ubuntu on the kernel command line
[15:39] <Ben64> ok, you want to install. why are you messing with the live cd at all? just install
[15:40] <saivert> The Ubiquity Ubuntu installer does not let you install to an existing mounted filesystem. it presents you with a partitioning step.
[15:40] <excalibr> saivert, my guess is because it doesn't have normal user which you'd be prompted to create when you run the install
[15:40] <jrtappers> Is there a way to disable HSP?
[15:40] <jrtappers> Or is it a library that I can chmod -x?
[15:40] <saivert> I'm having a look here now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[15:41] <excalibr> so you'd end up with only guest account on lightdm login screen
[15:41] <saivert> so the ubuntu installer does more than just run adduser
[15:41] <jrtappers> I have a bluetooth speaker that doesn't work on HSP, so every connect is connect, redirect sound, change mode
[15:41] <saivert> which is the standard Linux way of creating a new user account
[15:41] <excalibr> yep
[15:41] <saivert> Ubuntu is not a standard Linux system then
[15:41] <Ben64> saivert: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1389279&p=8716089#post8716089
[15:43] <excalibr> saivert, I'm curious though. If you log in through console, are you able to login with the normal user that you created?
[15:44] <saivert> I'm not allowed to switch to another VT ther is also no way to boot to single user mode.
[15:44] <saivert> since this is the live cd filesystem which is locked down somehow to only allow guest or live user
[15:44] <saivert> I'm curious what goes on behind the scenes when you install ubuntu using the GUI installer.
[15:45] <saivert> how it extracts the filesystem to the parition (it must use a ready install image otherwise the install would take hours like it does with a debootstrap install)
[15:46] <excalibr> saivert, I think someone might be able to answer that in #ubuntu-desktop
[15:46] <murilo> aro aro
[15:59] <andres_> n
[16:00] <ManWithIssiues> Please help me with undo graphic install!
[16:00] <bekks> Whar do you mean by thatß
[16:00] <bekks> What do you mean by that?
[16:01] <tpimtts> hey has shellinabox been removed from the official repos?
[16:02] <tpimtts> "sudo apt-get install shellinabox" yeilds unable to locate package
[16:03] <ManWithIssiues> Below.. I installed wrong packet and got now black screen after boot/login
[16:03] <ManWithIssiues> Bekks
[16:03] <SchrodingersScat> !info shellinabox | tpimtts
[16:04] <SchrodingersScat> tpimtts: have you updated apt-get?  is universe in your repos?
[16:05] <bekks> ManWithIssiues: Which package did you install?
[16:06] <ManWithIssiues> I don't know exactly.. something for amd graphic..
[16:06] <He4dShOt> hey guys
[16:06] <ANJ7> how can I install opencv in ubuntu using terminal?
[16:06] <ManWithIssiues> I installed over Ubuntu software
[16:07] <He4dShOt> I can't use my 2.1 sorround...it works only as a 2.0
[16:07] <tpimtts> SchrodingersScat, yeah, universe is in my repos -- just doing an update now then will try again
[16:08] <tpimtts> SchrodingersScat, still unable to locate package
[16:08] <EriC^^> tpimtts: which package?
[16:09] <tpimtts> "shellinabox" i'm on 12.04 here
[16:09] <EriC^^> !info shellinabox precise
[16:09] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, at login screen can you drop to console. Try alt+f1 ?
[16:09] <marvin__> My right monitor is blurry, and there are 2 pixels of purple along the left edge of the right screen. I assume the rest of the image is being squashed to fit those two pixels. How can I fix this?
[16:10] <tpimtts> !info shellinabox precise
[16:10] <ManWithIssiues> Status: log in.. done
[16:10] <EriC^^> tpimtts: it's not available for 12.04 , dunno
[16:10] <marvin__> The 2 pixel border is normally there on bootup, but disappears once the login screen shows. For some reason it doesn't now.
[16:10] <tpimtts> EriC^^, that sucks.
[16:10] <teward> EriC^^: tpimtts: it's available as a package Trusty and later.
[16:10] <teward> was available since Quantal
[16:11] <teward> (source: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shellinabox/+publishinghistory)
[16:11] <tpimtts> teward, can I add it somehow, I dont want to upgrade 12.04 yet
[16:11] <teward> tpimtts: you could install/build from source, or try and find a backported package
[16:11] <EriC^^> tpimtts: you could download from here https://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/downloads/list
[16:11] <ManWithIssiues> Excalibr stutus: ready
[16:11] <EriC^^> there's a .deb there, download and type dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[16:11] <tpimtts> ok thanks guys
[16:12] <yeats> tpimtts: use at your own risk though - those debs look ancient
[16:13] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, if you can see login prompt, log into your acc and check the last command apt execute in /var/log/apt/history.log
[16:13] <tpimtts> yeats, dont suppose you know of a better way for ssh access via https?
[16:13] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, run: less /var/log/apt/history.log
[16:13] <yeats> tpimtts: I haven't been following your thread - this is to get around a firewall?
[16:13] <ManWithIssiues> I type in what?
[16:14] <ManWithIssiues> Run... or less.. ?
[16:14] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, less /var/log/apt/history.log
[16:14] <ManWithIssiues> OK.. tnx
[16:15] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, look for the last 'Commandline:' line in the file
[16:15] <ManWithIssiues> What am i looking for?
[16:16] <tpimtts> yeats, for a support user to access a locked down account to check logs -- has to be accessible from internet explorer, user doesnt have putty or the like
[16:16] <ManWithIssiues> Install.. flex?
[16:16] <ManWithIssiues> Fglrx
[16:17] <ManWithIssiues> Damn autocorrect
[16:17] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, if you cant type it out, take a screenshot or screen photo. That would be much quicket
[16:18] <excalibr> quicker*
[16:18] <ManWithIssiues> I know.. I am on tablet.. no camera :-(
[16:18] <EriC^^> ManWithIssiues: which tablet?
[16:19] <ManWithIssiues> And chat - irc connection to the help
[16:19] <excalibr> EriC^^, headache tablet probably
[16:20] <EriC^^> excalibr: hehe
[16:20] <ANJ7> EriC^^: I'm having a problem with installing opencv in ubuntu
[16:20] <rahulprodev> Hello, whenever I open my folder it always shows hidden files, then I need to press CTRL+h to hide it.
[16:20] <ANJ7> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[16:20] <ManWithIssiues> OK.. will type now one and two that I now I installed last night
[16:20] <ANJ7> ./opencv.sh is not working
[16:21] <ikonia> define "not working"
[16:21] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, what was the entire command you see in the last Commandline: ?
[16:21] <rahulprodev> I don't want to see hidden files on opening the file manager
[16:21] <EriC^^> rahulprodev: go to edit > preferences and remove the check from show hidden files if you're using nautilus
[16:21] <ANJ7> ikonia: I mean the command is not found
[16:21] <ManWithIssiues> Got idea.. can I upload over phone picture??
[16:21] <ikonia> ANJ7: because it's not installed or your not in the right working directory
[16:22] <ikonia> ANJ7: have you installed opencv ?
[16:22] <rahulprodev> EriC^^, Thanks.
[16:22] <ANJ7> I'm trying to do that
[16:22] <rahulprodev> It's working
[16:22] <ANJ7> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[16:22] <EriC^^> ManWithIssiues: yes, in the iphone/ipad if you press home + lock it takes a picture of your screen, i'm sure there's something similar in your tablet
[16:22] <ikonia> ANJ7: why are you trying to run a command you've not installed
[16:22] <ANJ7> its in the documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[16:22] <tpimtts> meh just installed one of the ancient shellinabox packages
[16:22] <tpimtts> will do for now
[16:23] <ikonia> ANJ7: those documents look terrible
[16:23] <ikonia> !info opencv
[16:23] <ANJ7> oh
[16:24] <ANJ7> what should do now to install opencv?
[16:24] <ikonia> ANJ7: the first think I would do is look at the package manager, see if there are any opencv packages
[16:24] <ANJ7> oh, totally forgot about that
[16:24] <ikonia> that should always be your first step
[16:25] <marvin__> My right monitor is blurry, and there are 2 pixels of purple along the left edge of the right screen. I assume the rest of the image is being squashed to fit those two pixels. How can I fix this? The 2 pixel border is normally there on bootup, but disappears once the login screen shows. For some reason it doesn't now.
[16:28] <jhutchins> marvin__: That sounds like a hardware problem.
[16:28] <jhutchins> marvin__: What happens if you swap?
[16:28] <marvin__> jhutchins, what do you mean?
[16:29] <jhutchins> marvin__: You said your "right" monitor - swap it with the left.
[16:29] <marvin__> jhutchins, in ubuntu or the actual wires
[16:29] <agent47> mint> ubuntu
[16:29] <ManWithIssiues> Brb
[16:29] <marvin__> and it did the same with my left monitor before i got the right one
[16:29] <jhutchins> marvin__: I was thinking actual connection.
[16:29] <marvin__> yeah, it normally disappears after login but it stopped doing that after i reinstalled 14.10 today
[16:30] <jhutchins> marvin__: You could also try different resolutions.
[16:31] <agent47> ubuntu is for noobs
[16:31] <Hounddog> I am a bit confused. I am installing some app here and it tells me to put the file in /etc/init/kibana.conf and then run service kibana start . However it is not finding that service.
[16:31] <marvin__> jhutchins, swapped the monitors and the problem is gone. might reappear after i reboot, brb
[16:31] <Hounddog> should this not actually be in init.d
[16:31] <Hounddog> ?
[16:32] <ikonia> Hounddog: how are you installing it ?
[16:32] <Hounddog> ikonia: currently just copying that file over
[16:32] <ikonia> Hounddog: that is just a config file - that won't do anything
[16:32] <Hounddog> ikonia: thats what i was thinking
[16:33] <Hounddog> http://pastebin.com/a0Efc4LJ however its looking weird with execute and such
[16:33] <Hounddog> ikonia: this script is confusing me oO
[16:33] <ikonia> Hounddog: not going to do anything
[16:33] <marvin__> jhutchins, problem is back after reboot - for some reason still on the right
[16:33] <jhutchins> Hounddog: You want the startup script in /etc/init.d/
[16:33] <marvin__> even though the cables are swapped
[16:33] <Hounddog> jhutchins: thats what i was thinking...
[16:33] <ManWithIssiues> OK..
[16:33] <Hounddog> but why they copy this and no startup script in init.d ::)
[16:33] <jhutchins> Hounddog: But script, not conf file.
[16:34] <Hounddog> anyway lemme check further
[16:34] <ManWithIssiues> I got picture on tablet... page to paste in, please
[16:34] <jhutchins> Hounddog: Sounds like not-ready-for-prime-time software.
[16:34] <ikonia> jhutchins: look like it's an upstart script hence .conf
[16:34] <ikonia> but just that on it's own won't do anything
[16:34] <cerry>  try to setup multiple keybindings but though no error and a correct value when `getting` none of the assigned keys work. Does anyone know if that's already implemented in 12.04/where I can find more information about array values in gsettings? (What I try:~$ gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys volume-up "['<Primary><Super>KP_Add','<Primary><Super>KP_Subtract']" )
[16:34] <Hounddog> jhutchins: it is actually. just that these guys created an ansible installation in a weird way
[16:34] <jhutchins> ikonia: Ah, yeah, my brain's still SysV.
[16:34] <teo_> Question: up until recently when I would connect an external hd , kde would ask what to do with the action, and once answered open with Dolphin it would mount the drive and connect normally. Today this behaviour changed and requires root password. Has anything changed in the policy of mounting external devices?
[16:35] <jhutchins> Hounddog: Huh.  Doesn't usually run as a daemon.
[16:35] <Hounddog> gonna use the official one...
[16:35] <Hounddog> lemme throw this crap out. just wanted to make sure before :)
[16:36] <jhutchins> Hounddog: It's amazing the lengths people will go to because they don't understand how to do something and think they have to work around it.
[16:37] <ManWithIssues> Need paste in page
[16:37] <Hounddog> jhutchins: thats why i was actually asking. i dont understand init.d or init too well
[16:37] <ManWithIssiues> Paste bin page for pictures
[16:37] <Hounddog> jhutchins: and creating a start script is quite simple...
[16:38] <_d4rklit3> hi
[16:38] <ManWithIssiues> Paste!
[16:39] <_d4rklit3> would there be a reason why my CI server's ssh shell commands (forever keystone.js) has no visibility into system env vars
[16:39] <_d4rklit3> so like if i run forever keystone.js from the shell (same user) it sees env vars defined in /etc/profile.d
[16:40] <marvin__> Can anyone help me?
[16:40] <_d4rklit3> if the server does it throuhg sftp/ssh it doesn't
[16:40] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: thats java - not ssh
[16:40] <_d4rklit3> well javascript
[16:40] <_d4rklit3> but the problem isn't with the js
[16:40] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, imgur.com
[16:40] <_d4rklit3> the only variable here is how the commands get ran
[16:40] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: javascript is nothing to do with the shell
[16:40] <marvin__> >blah blah car is to carpet
[16:40] <ManWithIssiues> Tnx
[16:41] <ikonia> marvin__: what ?
[16:41] <Hounddog> jhutchins: and done thx for the information... il continue to throw crap out :)
[16:41] <_d4rklit3> again, ikonia, thats an example. It could be anything really. my app code just looks for env vars which it can normally find if i ssh in and run the command from the terminal
[16:41] <jhutchins> marvin__: I'll bet if you blank the screen and then re-enable it'll fix itself, or if you unplug it and plug it back in.
[16:41] <_d4rklit3> the only variable is that the CI server is doing it and not me
[16:41] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: you're not executing a login shell
[16:42] <_d4rklit3> yeah so the CI server uses sftp
[16:42] <jhutchins> marvin__: Also, as I said, try different resolutions.  See if you can get the "native" resolution of th emonitor.
[16:42] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: right, so that is not a shell
[16:42] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: that is a file transfer
[16:42] <marvin__> jhutchins, native is 1080p on both of them, and they're both set to that
[16:42] <_d4rklit3> can you run shell commands through sftp?
[16:42] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: no
[16:42] <marvin__> the blurriness is because of the border
[16:42] <_d4rklit3> then how is the CI server able to do it?
[16:42] <marvin__> so the image is being squashed to 1918x1080
[16:42] <_d4rklit3> i assume it has to login some how
[16:42] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: it's not using sftp
[16:43] <marvin__> Looks like this irl: http://i.imgur.com/hfSBTur.jpg
[16:43] <_d4rklit3> it uses sftp to transfer files and, I assume, ssh to run commands
[16:43] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: stop assuming
[16:43] <_d4rklit3> what else is there?
[16:43] <_d4rklit3> given the credentials I input
[16:43] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: find out for fact
[16:43] <_d4rklit3> lol, thats why im here!
[16:43] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: you'll probably find it's not using a login shell, so is not sourcing an environment
[16:44] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: Take a look at the manpage for ssh_config - I believe there's an envvars setting.
[16:44] <_d4rklit3> manpage?
[16:45] <_d4rklit3> link?
[16:45] <ikonia> "man ssh"
[16:45] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: man sshd_config in console.
[16:45] <_d4rklit3> ELI5
[16:45] <ikonia> I suggest you talk to the people who manage your CI server
[16:45] <ikonia> you'll probably get more factual information on your setup
[16:46] <_d4rklit3> lol its a web service, beanstalk.com
[16:46] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: so talk to them
[16:46] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[16:46] <ikonia> asking the people who maintain your service how it works seems logical
[16:47] <_d4rklit3> i dunno, seems like you guys could just tell me:  "you need to set SendEnv in your ssh_config" or something to that extent
[16:47] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: talk to the people who run your service
[16:47] <_d4rklit3> instead I have to be made to feel stupid for not knowing linux that well
[16:47] <ikonia> we support ubuntu here - not 3rd party platforms
[16:48] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: Almost every CLI program will have a man page. The command "apropos <string>" will find pages related to <string>.
[16:49] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: Some are good, some are horrible, some are practical, some are very technical references.
[16:49] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: It's always worth looking there first though.
[16:49] <_d4rklit3> is there an online html manual
[16:49] <mchelen1> there are online copies of the man pages
[16:49] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: Yes, but the installed pages will match the versions you have.
[16:50] <ikonia> again - talk to your CI provider
[16:50] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu support, not 3rd party platform support
[16:50] <_d4rklit3> ikonia, don't help
[16:50] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: Some web browsers will open the local manpage with the man:<package> command.
[16:50] <_d4rklit3> jhutchins, thanks
[16:50] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: please dont use this channel for comercial platform support
[16:50] <ikonia> _d4rklit3: talk to the people who provide your CI infrastructure,
[16:51] <jhutchins> ikonia: I consider this a legitimate Linux/Ubuntu question.
[16:51] <ikonia> jhutchins: you conisder how a 3rd party runs a CI platform something to do with #ubuntu ?
[16:51] <_d4rklit3> i thought it had something to do with how the ubuntu server is configured
[16:51] <_d4rklit3> maybe tehre is something I can do
[16:51] <_d4rklit3> on the server
[16:52] <jhutchins> ikonia: Securing or allowing environment settings in an ssh session is valid and is covered in the man pages.
[16:52] <ikonia> jhutchins: we support ubuntu here - not how 3rd party configures their Sshd on a comercial CI platform
[16:52] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: Check the man page.
[16:52] <z302> something is waking up one of my hard drives every 30 minutes. I even unmounted its partition (which is empty as well) but this keeps happening. Any trivial command I can use to check for cronjobs happening every 30 minutes? Alternatively, something like 'lsof' command to check whats polling that specific device?
[16:52] <_d4rklit3> im talkin to beanstalk
[16:54] <teo_> any ideas as to why kubuntu asks for root password when mounting an external hd? It did not use to do that
[16:54] <jhutchins> _d4rklit3: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/101168/set-environment-variable-automatically-upon-ssh-login-no-root-access http://stackoverflow.com/questions/216202/why-does-an-ssh-remote-command-get-fewer-environment-variables-then-when-run-man
[16:55] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, are you still there?
[17:01] <ManWithIssiues> finally.. http://m.imgur.com/5VcCCAa
[17:01] <somsip> z302: check /var/syslog for cronjobs.
[17:02] <loadedanvils> hello
[17:02] <rainbowwarrior> hello, I am running Ubuntu 14.10 on an acer aspire v5 571p and the battery is still discharging fast and that is with tpl installed , any one got any advice please ?
[17:02] <loadedanvils> mm
[17:03] <loadedanvils> I want to run a command when an external display is connected / disconnected
[17:03] <ManWithIssiues> Here
[17:04] <ManWithIssiues> Excalibr
[17:04] <ManWithIssiues> Excalibr http://m.imgur.com/5VcCCAa
[17:06] <z302> somsip, thanks, will do
[17:07] <ManWithIssiues> Got net problems :-S
[17:07] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, try purge all those fglrx packages then reboot and cross your fingers
[17:08] <ManWithIssiues> How do I do that? I am ... dumbass
[17:09] <loadedanvils> ManWithIssiues, reposition your index finger so it lays over your middle finger
[17:09] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
[17:09] <excalibr> yeah, what loadedanvils said
[17:09] <ManWithIssiues> I got some end problem
[17:10] <ManWithIssiues> (End)
[17:10] <ManWithIssiues> Wow.. OK, got it
[17:12] <ManWithIssiues> Its working
[17:13] <AbdElAziz> Hello : Egypt
[17:13] <ManWithIssiues> Finished
[17:13] <ghost_> hello world
[17:13] <ManWithIssiues> Reboot?
[17:13] <AbdElAziz> :)
[17:14] <AbdElAziz> how are u all ?
[17:14] <cowbacon> !offtopic | AbdElAziz
[17:14] <Petersonam> peter
[17:14] <ManWithIssiues> Verbosy :-)  how I am.. :-)
[17:14] <AbdElAziz> OK .. i am sorry
[17:15] <ManWithIssiues> Excalibr, reboot??
[17:15] <Petersonam> anyone know a program i can use in Ubuntu eCommerce pleas   :)
[17:16] <AbdElAziz> where i can find full documentation for GRUB : For Learning from scratch ..
[17:16] <ikonia> the grub website ?
[17:18] <ManWithIssiues> TnX Excalibr.. its operating
[17:18] <AbdElAziz> THX
[17:18] <ManWithIssiues> Some one give this man a bier
[17:18] <ioria> what's a  bier ?
[17:18] <EriC^^> !beer
[17:19] <excalibr> ManWithIssiues, glad it works
[17:20] <ManWithIssiues> Beer, bera, bier,  birra , or in my land.. pivo - home of LaSko :-)
[17:22] <ioria> ManWithIssiues,  ... In Roman times Laško became an important spa town.
[17:22] <ManWithIssiues> True
[17:22] <ioria> i'll try it
[17:22] <ManWithIssiues> Good old times.. :-$
[17:23] <ManWithIssiues> Be next to toilet!!
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> ManWithIssiues  know when to stop
[17:23] <ManWithIssiues> Just an advice.. sorry 4 chit-chat
[17:25] <ManWithIssiues> Ow... internet went down for 5 minutes.. so I have to talk to my family.. they seem like nice people.. :-) :-)
[17:27] <backbox> hi
[17:39] <dbm> Guys anyone know how can i allocate free space to the partition ono Ubuntu server without lossing a data on it? (With terminal) using vps! :)
[17:41] <Thenewone> Hi guys
[17:41] <Thenewone> how can i install graphical interface for my ubuntu server ?
[17:41] <EriC^^> Thenewone: sudo apt-get install <de>
[17:42] <Thenewone> what this <de> mean ?
[17:42] <EriC^^> Thenewone: ubuntu-desktop (unity), xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop etc.
[17:42] <sourav> hello
[17:42] <Thenewone> i want openbox
[17:42] <Thenewone> HI
[17:42] <Thenewone> Hi
[17:42] <sourav> hello
[17:42] <EriC^^> Thenewone: install openbox and xorg etc.
[17:42] <dbm> Anyone know, how to allocate free space to partition on ubuntu server without lossing a data (Via terminal - using vps) Thanks for effort and help!
[17:42] <Guest65771> hii
[17:42] <Thenewone> i have xorg installed
[17:43] <Thenewone> when i type startx the screen stay black
[17:43] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install openbox && sudo service lightdm start
[17:43] <Guest65771> hii
[17:43] <OerHeks> startx is old, depreciated as GDM is no more
[17:44] <Thenewone> he give me this message lightdm: unrecognized service
[17:44] <EriC^^> Thenewone: lightdm is a desktop manager, it will give you a login screen
[17:44] <loadedanvils> I need to restart gnome-shell when I change display settings
[17:44] <OerHeks> Thenewone, not sure startx wrecked your system.
[17:45] <loadedanvils> I want to run "gnome-shell -r" when I connect/disconnect my monitor
[17:45] <loadedanvils> how do I do that
[17:45] <Thenewone> but when i type service lightdm restart or start nothing happen just this error message lightdm : unrecognized service
[17:45] <ioria> Thenewone,  you are not using  lightdm  or you are  not sudo
[17:46] <Thenewone> i'm root
[17:46] <Thenewone> ya guys
[17:46] <Thenewone> i need to install lightdm
[17:46] <Thenewone> sorry
[17:48] <Thenewone> thanks guys for help
[17:49] <ioria> yrewelc
[17:49] <Linne> Hello guys I'm considering to make a fresh Ubuntu install right now I have 14.04 LTS installed. Do you think I may want to wait for a couple weeks and install new Ubuntu version instead?
[17:49] <excalibr> dbm, use gparted if you can boot off an iso. It's safer than directly using the tools it calls
[17:50] <Loshki> Linne: what's wrong with 14.04.2?
[17:50] <Linne> Loshki: Nothing, it's working well
[17:50] <dbm> excalibr: im using VPS :\
[17:50] <Linne> Loshki: I will reinstall because of some partitioning issues
[17:51] <excalibr> Linne, if you're not looking forward to jump to systemd bandwagon, stick with 14.04 lts
[17:51] <Linne> Loshki: I cannot decide whether I should install LTS or the new one
[17:51] <Linne> excalibr: What's wrong with systemd?
[17:51] <AlexStraunoff> Depends on what your goals are
[17:51] <Loshki> Linne: no point moving away from 14.04.2 without *good* reason (boredom doesn't really count). Just install it and keep it up-to-date.
[17:51] <AlexStraunoff> LTS is going to be a lot more stable
[17:52] <Linne> Loshki: Ok thanks, I think that's what I'll do
[17:52] <hkrrsx> dbm: Have a look at this article:  askubuntu.com/questions/390769/how-do-i-resize-partitions-using-command-line-without-using-a-gui-on-a-server
[17:52] <excalibr> Linne, nothing wrong. just that upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 bound to be bumpy ride
[17:52] <AlexStraunoff> Newer will give you newer packages but will break a lot easier and you can end up in places where you're not able to sanely update to the next major version
[17:52] <excalibr> because of upstart to systemd migration
[17:52] <Linne> I mostly want a stable OS, as I use cutting-edge stuff in Arch
[17:53] <Linne> I have dual-boot, so I reckon LTS makes more sense for me, no?
[17:53] <AlexStraunoff> Isn't 15.04 lts coming soon?
[17:53] <EriC^^> AlexStraunoff: 15.04 won't be lts, 16.04 will
[17:53] <dbm> hkrrsx: thanks will do it
[17:53] <AlexStraunoff> EriC^^: Oh right :)
[17:53] <Loshki> Linne: then LTS is what you want. The more mature it is, the more stable. Thet's why the .2 at the end matters.
[17:54] <hkrrsx> dbm: you're welcome
[17:54] <Linne> Loshki: Ok thanks
[17:55] <loadedanvils> I need to write a script to update when hdmi is connected
[17:55] <loadedanvils> how do I do this?
[17:56] <EriC^^> loadedanvils: check what run's when something is connected and check what was connected
[17:56] <Thenewone> lightdm installed but i get in Failed to start session
[17:57] <Thenewone> i cant*
[17:57] <loadedanvils> EriC^^, I actually don't know when that happens
[17:57] <tyrog> Hi what is the difference between efix64.efi and shimx64.efi files for UEFI-enabled machines?
[17:57] <Loshki> loadedanvils: I think it's handled by udev. A bit like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/263248/set-hdmi-sound-output-automatically-on-connect-disconnect
[17:57] <tyrog> !efi
[17:57] <EriC^^> tyrog: shimx64.efi is for secure boot
[17:57] <Thenewone> what should i do ?
[17:58] <ioria> Thenewone,  but you have  a DE ?
[17:58] <OerHeks> Thenewone, maybe you need to switch with ctrl alt F7
[17:58] <Thenewone> ioria, waht DE mean
[17:58] <EriC^^> desktop environment
[17:59] <EriC^^> Thenewone: did you install openbox
[17:59] <Thenewone> ya
[17:59] <Thenewone> i install it
[17:59] <EriC^^> ok, check /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[17:59] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i cant get in how can i check this file
[18:00] <Thenewone> EriC^^, wait a
[18:00] <Thenewone> EriC^^, wait a s plz
[18:01] <Thenewone> ok
[18:01] <EriC^^> ill brb
[18:02] <Thenewone> ok
[18:02] <EriC^> im back
[18:02] <Thenewone> wback
[18:02] <EriC^> Thenewone: run sudo less /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[18:03] <Thenewone> i'm using nano now
[18:03] <Thenewone> ya what should i do ?
[18:03] <EriC^> and check what it says, it might say it's logging to /var/log/lightdm/x-1.log or something
[18:03] <EriC^> Thenewone: check what it says
[18:04] <Thenewone> waht line ?
[18:04] <Thenewone> what*
[18:04] <loadedanvils> Loshki, it looks like the script isn't being ran
[18:04] <loadedanvils> the script I'm running is just two lines
[18:04] <loadedanvils> #!/bin/sh
[18:04] <loadedanvils> gnome-shell -r
[18:04] <Thenewone> loggin to /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[18:05] <tyrog> EriC^: Is Secureboot some problem for using Ubuntu normally? Because my system doesn't boot without it enabled...
[18:05] <Thenewone> should i change it ?
[18:05] <EriC^> Thenewone: no, check below
[18:05] <Loshki> loadedanvils: add some debugging e.g. echo "script stated at `date`" >> /tmp/t.txt so you can see what's going on.
[18:05] <EriC^> Thenewone: can you upload it? type sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:06] <EriC^> tyrog: no, it's not a problem usually
[18:06] <Thenewone> it's give http://termbin.com/9r39
[18:08] <loadedanvils> Loshki, the script is being run but for some reason, "gnome-shell -r" isn't executing
[18:08] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:08] <loadedanvils> it's skipping over that line
[18:08] <EriC^> loadedanvils: what does gnome-shell -r do?
[18:08] <loadedanvils> it's supposed to restart the gnome-shell
[18:08] <EriC^> loadedanvils: you probably need to set the environment for it
[18:09] <Thenewone> EriC^, http://termbin.com/qyck
[18:09] <ioria> Thenewone,  do you have  .Xauthority in  home ?
[18:09] <loadedanvils> EriC^, I'm not quite sure what you mean
[18:09] <OerHeks> loadedanvils, so did you executed that script with sudo?
[18:09] <EriC^> loadedanvils: it's being run as root and without the same environment as your user
[18:09] <Thenewone> ioria, ya
[18:09] <EriC^> loadedanvils: try DISPLAY=:0 gnome-shell -r as a start
[18:10] <loadedanvils> EriC^, what should that do
[18:10] <ioria> Thenewone,  can you ls  -l  it ?
[18:10] <tyrog> EriC^: if it works fine in Ubuntu, why are people so worried about it and that it can prevent other systems from booting in our computer?
[18:10] <tyrog> besides Windows
[18:10] <Thenewone> nothing in it
[18:10] <ioria> Thenewone,  ls  -l  .Xauthority
[18:10] <EriC^> you might need to set $XAUTHORITY to your user's /home/<user>/.Xauthority
[18:10] <Thenewone> ioria, exactly
[18:10] <Thenewone> ya
[18:10] <Thenewone> ioria, but i cant get in why ?
[18:11] <ioria> Thenewone,  i  wanna  know  the permissions
[18:11] <EriC^> loadedanvils: ^
[18:11] <Loshki> loadedanvils: try a complete pathname for gnome-shell -r. Does it work when you type it from the shell?
[18:11] <Thenewone> ioria, i really dont know
[18:11] <ioria> Thenewone,  type  ls  -l  .Xauthority
[18:12] <Thenewone> ioria, after that ?
[18:12] <ioria> Thenewone,  past
[18:12] <ioria> Thenewone,  it's  a  single line
[18:12] <Thenewone> ioria, the resolts ?
[18:12] <EriC^> tyrog: it's really not a problem especially with ubuntu
[18:12] <ioria> Thenewone,  yes
[18:12] <Thenewone> -rw------ 1 root root 0 Apr 3 18:15 .Xauthority
[18:13] <Thenewone> ioria, this is it
[18:13] <ioria> Thenewone,  yep
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> tyrog  is this link useful http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/enlightenment/windows-secure-boot-lockout-and-desktop-linux-66114
[18:13] <Thenewone> EriC^, plz help me i'm waiting
[18:13] <EriC^> Thenewone: are you using your user's account or root?
[18:13] <Thenewone> EriC^, root now
[18:14] <tyrog> MonkeyDust: Thank you, I wasn't complaining, just curious about this matter...
[18:14] <skinux> Having an issue with permissions I think. I've an app under /var/www/, it needs to be able to write to /var/www/clients/MyProject/public/pdf. I have pdf directory set to 775, but it's not letting the upload happen.
[18:15] <vroomfondel|2> I am fighting with creating a bootable USB stick for my UEFI notebook
[18:15] <Thenewone> vroomfondel|2, good luck man ;D
[18:15] <tyrog> vroomfondel|2: What OS are you currently on?
[18:15] <shivain22> hi guys
[18:16] <vroomfondel|2> tyrog: ubuntu
[18:16] <Thenewone> Hi
[18:16] <EriC^> Thenewone: type lspci -nnk | grep -A2 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:16] <shivain22> hey thenewone
[18:16] <Thenewone> shivain22, Hi
[18:16] <tyrog> vroomfondel|2: I just use the startup disk creator tool, and it works fine booting from UEFI
[18:16] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[18:16] <shivain22> dude i have some problems with the bluetooth n wifi
[18:16] <vroomfondel|2> tyrog: I created a 4G file in which I installed a mkfs.vfat
[18:17] <vroomfondel|2> tyrog: then I dropped the contents of an ISO image into it
[18:17] <EriC^> vroomfondel|2: are you trying to manually create a persistent live usb?
[18:17] <shivain22> i have done everything whatever i can get from the net
[18:17] <EriC^> vroomfondel|2: just dd it over, sudo dd if=path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M , don't need to partition or anything
[18:17] <Thenewone> EriC^, http://termbin.com/c451
[18:17] <shivain22> my lap is lenovo b50-70
[18:18] <vroomfondel|2> EriC^: I'd rather like  to create the netinstall of Debian, to be true
[18:18] <EriC^> vroomfondel|2: doesn't matter
[18:18] <footer> hi
[18:18] <vroomfondel|2> EriC^: no, ISO's don't work
[18:18] <footer> I want to change my right key to shift + left
[18:18] <EriC^> what do you mean?
[18:18] <footer> how can I do that
[18:19] <EriC^> footer: what right key?
[18:19] <vroomfondel|2> EriC^: if I dd an ISO over to the USB stick, it won't boot
[18:19] <footer> EriC^: right arrow key
[18:19] <EriC^> footer: ok, look into xbindkeys
[18:19] <footer> EriC^: I was trying xmodmap but its not working
[18:19] <footer> as it can only map one key
[18:20] <footer> but not shift + something
[18:20] <EriC^> yeah
[18:20] <footer> okay got it
[18:20] <shivain22> anyone there for bluetooth?
[18:20] <footer> thanks EriC^
[18:21] <ioria> Thenewone,  maybe the owner and group are notcorrect
[18:22] <Thenewone> ioria, how fix that ?
[18:22] <EriC^> Thenewone: i think you need to install a graphics driver
[18:22] <EriC^> Thenewone: it doesn't say any driver is in use
[18:22] <EriC^> try sudo lshw -C video | grep driver and paste here
[18:23] <Thenewone> ok
[18:23] <EriC^> Thenewone: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[18:23] <Thenewone> ok
[18:24] <Thenewone> the answer for that command give nothing
[18:24] <EriC^> ok, i guess that means nothing is in use
[18:25] <vroomfondel|2> if I write a MBR by install-mbr it looks like the vfat gets destroyed
[18:26] <bekks> vroomfondel|2: Whats the complete command you are using?
[18:26] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: umm... I think I just realized my error
[18:27] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: I am using a filesystem-inside-file technique
[18:27] <Thenewone> ioria, how fix that plz ?
[18:27] <Thenewone> ioria, group and my account
[18:27] <bekks> vroomfondel|2: Whats the complete command you are using?
[18:27] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: so I prepared a vfat in a file and wrote the MBR to it at last, which is nonsense, I believe
[18:27] <ioria> Thenewone,  did you xserver-xorg-video-all ?
[18:28] <Thenewone> ioria, i cant get in
[18:28] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: I first did a syslinux file-with-vfat
[18:28] <Thenewone> ioria, i tryed to install it with root from recovery mode he dont give me the permission
[18:28] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: after that a install-mbr file-with-vfat
[18:29] <EriC^> Thenewone: press in recovery mode enable networking, it will remount as rw and give you net access
[18:29] <Thenewone> ok
[18:30] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: writing the MBR into a file carrying a FAT doesn't work, right?
[18:30] <bekks> vroomfondel|2: I never tried that.
[18:30] <loadedanvils> the problem I've been having in gnome is that I can set workspaces_only_on_primary when I connect a second monitor
[18:30] <loadedanvils> but when I disconnect it, it reverts to putting everything on one screen
[18:31] <Thenewone> EriC^, xserver-xorg-vdeo-all is already the newest version
[18:31] <ioria> Thenewone,  sudo  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 4
[18:32] <ioria> Thenewone,  just kernel driver in use
[18:32] <KometaGirl> hi
[18:32] <Thenewone> Kernel driver in use: e1000
[18:33] <ioria> Thenewone,  that's the ethernet .... no  ?
[18:34] <Thenewone> ioria, EriC^ said just kernel i givet him the kernel
[18:34] <EriC^> i think that's the ethernet
[18:34] <Thenewone> ok
[18:34] <KometaGirl> привет
[18:34] <andybrine> evening everyone
[18:34] <ejcweb> join #unix
[18:34] <omgitsmit> !ru | KometaGirl
[18:34] <Thenewone> why i have graphical interface lightdm
[18:35] <Thenewone> but i cant log in when i type my password
[18:35] <EriC^> Thenewone: oh
[18:35] <KometaGirl> спасибо
[18:35] <syntroPi> Which virtualization solution would survive Xorg crashing? I used VirtualBox and this stupid GnomeShell crashed my Xorg so now i have data lost in my virtual machine... :-/   Is there any common solution which runs as a system service, so i could just restart Xorg and reconnect to it then?
[18:35] <andybrine> does anyone know a simple way to expand a partition in ubuntu?
[18:35] <bekks> !gparted | andybrine
[18:35] <EriC^> Thenewone: i thought you still get a blank screen, that's probably cause you used sudo startx
[18:35] <omgitsmit> andybrine: i use gparted
[18:35] <omgitsmit> andybrine: i need a GUI or i'll mess it up :)
[18:36] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo chown <your user>: /home/<your user>/.Xauthority
[18:36] <andybrine> hahaha same here omgitsmit
[18:36] <yorwos> my pc runs ubuntu 14.04 , if i install windows guest in virtual machine will i be able to print using epson's driver ?
[18:36] <omgitsmit> cheers
[18:36] <andybrine> when I use gparted though, I cant expand the partition
[18:36] <bekks> yorwos: How is the printer connected?
[18:36] <omgitsmit> yorwos: sounds plausable, why not try it and find out?
[18:36] <andybrine> I can only shrink it
[18:36] <yorwos> its connected with network through the router
[18:36] <andybrine> I have over 100gb unallocated space also
[18:37] <omgitsmit> yorwos: as long as the vm has a route to your network you should be golden
[18:37] <hkrrsx> andybrine: Step by step instructions with pictures:   http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[18:37] <omgitsmit> andybrine: strange
[18:37] <yorwos> gr8 !!! thanx !!!
[18:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, nothing in
[18:37] <EriC^> Thenewone: you still can't login?
[18:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya
[18:37] <EriC^> Thenewone: does the guest account work?
[18:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, nope
[18:38] <omgitsmit> andybrine: erm, you have to do it from live cd
[18:38] <EriC^> Thenewone: it just resets?
[18:38] <omgitsmit> andybrine: you're trying to do it while using the partition arent you
[18:38] <andybrine> thanks hkrrsk
[18:38] <hkrrsx> andybrine: you're welcome
[18:38] <Thenewone> EriC^, nope he give this message
[18:38] <Thenewone> EriC^, wait i need to reboot it
[18:38] <andybrine> I am but I have tried with the live cd and have had issues
[18:38] <omgitsmit> andybrine: it cant be mounted or in use
[18:38] <andybrine> that guide should sort it
[18:39] <omgitsmit> andybrine: right on, good luck
[18:39] <andybrine> yea, I know that they cant be mounted
[18:39] <andybrine> needed to ask here to get some idea of how to do it
[18:39] <Thenewone> EriC^, i have this message : Failed to start session
[18:39] <ejcweb> I've installed the mail command line tool, but it seems to hang forever (I have to terminate the process), and the email only sends minutes later. Any ideas what's wrong?
[18:39] <ioria> Thenewone,  change owner and group , if  you are 'test',  the  ls  -l command say  test test
[18:39] <loadedanvils> anyone here familiar with gnome?
[18:39] <andybrine> I will be back with LiveCd is I have any more issues
[18:40] <Thenewone> ioria, sorry what should i type exactly
[18:40] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: installed it on my laptop last night, i really like the minimalistic layout.
[18:40] <andybrine> one problem I am having is that I cant turn off swap
[18:40] <andybrine> there is no option for it
[18:40] <omgitsmit> andybrine: sudo swapoff
[18:40] <loadedanvils> I'm using an external display so I set "workspaces_on_primary_only" to false
[18:41] <andybrine> ok, thanks
[18:41] <Thenewone> ioria, i just added i new account
[18:41] <Thenewone> i will try
[18:41] <loadedanvils> but when I connect/disconnect the display, it all goes to the primary one
[18:41] <andybrine> I will reboot and see how it goes
[18:41] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: i manage my monitors via the Display app
[18:41] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: ive never had to mess with any conf
[18:42] <Thenewone> the same problems
[18:42] <loadedanvils> omgitsmit, when you press the home key do they all go to the same screen?
[18:42] <ioria> Thenewone,  ls -l  .Xuthority ?
[18:42] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: i think so, i dont have the laptop with me at the moment
[18:42] <loadedanvils> that's what I don't want
[18:43] <loadedanvils> I want the windows on the external display to go to that display
[18:43] <loadedanvils> not to the main one
[18:43] <Thenewone> ioria, he give nothing
[18:43] <ioria> Thenewone,  are you  in  home folder ?
[18:44] <Thenewone> my box dont let me get in
[18:44] <Thenewone> ioria, i get tired from rebooting
[18:44] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: maybe gnome-tweek-tool has something that can help?
[18:44] <EriC^> Thenewone: press ctrl+alt+f1
[18:44] <EriC^> Thenewone: you can login there
[18:44] <ioria> Thenewone,  you need a shell
[18:44] <loadedanvils> omgitsmit, already tried that
[18:44] <loadedanvils> it resets whenever I unplug
[18:44] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: i used the unity tweek tool to create hot corners
[18:44] <omgitsmit> ah ok
[18:44] <EriC^> ioria: i think it's another problem, cause he can't use the guest account too, dunno what's wrong though
[18:45] <ioria> Eric^  yep
[18:47] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: i see someone on suse that made gnome3 behave more like gnome2 to get that functionality back
[18:47] <syntroPi> which of the modern DE is the most stable/usable? im hating gnome shell more and more
[18:47] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: he also doesnt show us at all how he managed to do it either, so thats nice.
[18:47] <loadedanvils> link please
[18:47] <ioria> Thenewone,  there's a working user on  you system ?
[18:47] <omgitsmit> https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/468620-GNOME-3-2-1-Window-Management-DUAL-Screens-HELP
[18:47] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: this is not on the topic of this chat room, however.
[18:48] <Thenewone> ioria, plz i'm gonna bring a cup of thea i'm tired thanks for helping you and EriC^
[18:48] <Thenewone> ioria, i will back
[18:48] <ioria> Thenewone,  np
[18:49] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: oh he has a link, scriptblock was stripping it from my page. there's some instruction on the jump.
[18:49] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: what do you know, gnome tweek tool to the rescue :)
[18:49] <loadedanvils> yeah I already tried it
[18:49] <omgitsmit> no luck?
[18:50] <loadedanvils> the thing is, when I disconnect the monitor, it reverts back to all windows on the same screen
[18:50] <omgitsmit> and you have to re-do all your settings all over again?
[18:50] <loadedanvils> yeah
[18:50] <omgitsmit> sounds like its just adapting to whatever its detecting
[18:50] <omgitsmit> "its a feature not a bug" kinda thing.
[18:50] <loadedanvils> or just restart gnome-shell, but I'm having a hard time doing that anyway
[18:51] <omgitsmit> im sure you could hack up some upstart script for it
[18:51] <omgitsmit> but thats way beyond me
[18:51] <loadedanvils> I tried to
[18:51] <loadedanvils> but it didn't work
[18:51] <omgitsmit> doh
[18:51] <loadedanvils> I've been on this same problem for 6 hours
[18:51] <omgitsmit> lovely
[18:55] <hikenboot> hi! I have a mac G5 I am trying to raise from the dead. I dont have a cdrom player that works. wanted to install ubuntu 14.04 MAC version on trying to figure out how I build a bootable usb for it from inside a linux amd64 desktop.
[18:56] <EriC^> hikenboot: type sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M ( get /dev/sdX from sudo parted -l and make sureit's your usb's device name )
[18:56] <andybrine> Im still having problems expanding a partition, I can shrik it but not expand
[18:57] <hikenboot> what file system do i use for the usb
[18:57] <andybrine> there is also no option to turn off swap
[18:57] <bekks> andybrine: Can you pastebin a screenshot of gparted?
[18:57] <EriC^> hikenboot: you don't need to create a partition table or partitions for the usb
[18:57] <hikenboot> oh ok thats different. no problem thanks
[18:57] <andybrine> will do , one moment bekks
[18:59] <andybrine> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-04-03_18_57_31-1tGmvxpl.png
[19:00] <andybrine> thats a screenshot bekks
[19:01] <bekks> andybrine: you would have to move sda2 to the left, sda3 to the left, then expand sda4 to the left, then expand sda5 to the left.
[19:01] <bekks> andybrine: And there is no swap, so no need for it to be deactivated.
[19:02] <neldogz> is there a list that shows which version of the kernel supports which Nvidia driver?
[19:03] <andybrine> ok thanks bekks
[19:04] <andybrine> can I just dran and drop them?
[19:04] <andybrine> how do I move them to the left?
[19:04] <Thenewone> Hi guys i'm back
[19:05] <bekks> andybrine: Point and click, then enter the appropriate values after clicking "Resize".
[19:05] <Thenewone> EriC^, Hi back
[19:07] <hikenboot> EriC^, one more question what key do i press in order to make it boot from the usb thumb drive?
[19:08] <EriC^> hikenboot: you have to set the bios to boot it
[19:08] <andybrine> not sure what you mean. lol. to me that looks like it just changes the size
[19:08] <hikenboot> EriC^, I didnt thing that a mac g5 had a bios that you can go into?
[19:08] <Thenewone> EriC^, i'm in shell now
[19:08] <Thenewone> EriC^, what should i do ?
[19:08] <Bashing-om> Thenewone: Is the base system stable ? boot to terminal to make sure - > at grub 'e' key for edit -> boot options screen; arrow down to the "linux" line and replace "quiet splash" with the term 'text' - with out the quotes; key combo ctl+x to contine to a terminal - TTY1 - ; log in here with user name and password. Then we continue .
[19:09] <EriC^> hikenboot: no idea
[19:09] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, are you sure you are talking to me ?
[19:10] <EriC^> Thenewone: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg openbox obconf
[19:10] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:10] <EriC^> Thenewone: also add lightdm at the end
[19:11] <Bashing-om> Thenewone: Yes, but if EriC^ Has the situation under control, I go back to my lurking mode .
[19:11] <EriC^> Bashing-om: no, by all means join in :)
[19:11] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, sorry i didnt mean that just didnt understand what did you say to me and i said maby you are mistaking the personne
[19:12] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Thenewone :: Each has their own methods of trouble shooting, many paths to one end . Mine is to start from a command line interface is all .
[19:12] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, i'm in the shell
[19:13] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, i just pressed ctr + alt + f1
[19:13] <Thenewone> EriC^, every thing done
[19:13] <EriC^> Bashing-om: he's trying to install openbox on ubuntu server, lightdm loads but it doesn't start the session, same for the guest account
[19:13] <Bashing-om> Thenewone: Presently 2 issues as I see it .. authorisation to access "your" home, and no graphics driver loaded to drive the GUI (??) .
[19:14] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, i think the problem only on authorisation
[19:14] <EriC^> Thenewone: ok, type sudo service lightdm restart
[19:14] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, if the driver is not installed correctly lightdm will not start
[19:14] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:15] <EriC^> Bashing-om: i was thinking the driver might not show unless xorg is running
[19:15] <Thenewone> failed to start session
[19:15] <hkrrsx> Thenewone: by chance, is openbox-session in your /usr/bin directory?
[19:15] <hkrrsx> Thenewone: ls -lh /usr/bin/openbox-session
[19:15] <Thenewone> hkrrsx, i really dont know
[19:15] <Bashing-om> Thenewone: Tjat is true .. must have a proper graphics driver available and loaded . BUT more important is access to /home .
[19:17] <Thenewone> hkrrsx, it give this : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 594 dec 22 2013 /usr/bin/openbox-session
[19:17] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Thenewone Would behoove us to know what graphic(S) cards we are dealing with . -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- so we know what card and if a module is loaded .
[19:17] <hkrrsx> Thenewone: great, thanks for checking
[19:17] <neldogz> How can I install the kernel headers on my Ubuntu 14.10 system? Cant seem to find them via apt-cache?
[19:17] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo find /home/<your user> ! -user <your user>
[19:17] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:18] <EriC^> Bashing-om: i think it's a virtualbox os, right Thenewone ?
[19:18] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya
[19:18] <Thenewone> EriC^, i want learn before i install it on my home machine
[19:19] <Bashing-om> EriC^: the -> that puts me in a learning mode ... VM talking to the hardware via the host .. A path I am not experience with ... IN my learning mode .
[19:19] <nicomachus> hey guys, this is kinda halfway off topic, but the #conky channel seems to be totally dead. Does anyone happen to know what syntax the config files are written in? I found a list of objects and variables, just trying to figure out how to put it all together.
[19:21] <neldogz> Can someone confirm if this kernel is recommended for gaming? linux-image-3.16.0-33-lowlatency
[19:21] <Thenewone> EriC^, if this didnt work on virtualbox how will work in real machine ?
[19:21] <acz32> neldogz: since when are kernels tailored to gaming?
[19:21] <loadedanvils> neldogz, I didn't know you could use linux for gaming
[19:22] <nicomachus> loadedanvils: the steam client for linux has vastly improved in the last year.
[19:22] <neldogz> acz32, i am assuming the low latency note on it probably suggests the kernel tickrate is higher than the standard 250
[19:22] <loadedanvils> nicomachus, but there is a very small number of games that you can install
[19:22] <nicomachus> I wouldn't call it very small anymore.
[19:22] <neldogz> loadedanvils, yes you can game on linux. I use the Nvidia prop driver with Steam as my client
[19:22] <acz32> loadedanvils: you consider 1000+ games a very small number?
[19:22] <loadedanvils> I mean, without using wine
[19:22] <nicomachus> check out /r/linux_gaming some time.
[19:23] <nicomachus> it's definitely growing. and quickly.
[19:23] <loadedanvils> nicomachus, I'll do that then
[19:23] <loadedanvils> I wish I could play some dark souls
[19:23] <EriC^> Thenewone: did the find command return anything?
[19:24] <Thenewone> EriC^, sorry didnt understand
[19:24] <EriC^> Thenewone: did you try sudo find /home/<your user> .....?
[19:24] <Thenewone> EriC^, i'm in shell mode ctr+alt+f1
[19:24] <Thenewone> i'm in my home
[19:25] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo find /home/<your user> ! -user <your user>
[19:26] <Coolin> part
[19:27] <Thenewone> EriC^, it give me alot of stuf
[19:27] <EriC^> Thenewone: ok, try sudo chown -R <your user>: /home/<your user>
[19:27] <Thenewone> EriC^, /hom/test/==> and .xsession-errors,dmrc.........................
[19:27] <Thenewone> nothing happen
[19:28] <Thenewone> wait
[19:28] <Thenewone> he said invalid user
[19:28] <ramen69> anyone ever got eve to work on linux?
[19:28] <wcfields> Does anyone here have an IP Surveillance Camera? Not totally related to channel, but just looking for recommendations that aren't total crap.
[19:28] <loadedanvils> I wonder if anyone got dark souls to work on linux
[19:29] <Thenewone> EriC^, i didnt
[19:29] <Thenewone> EriC^, i did it*
[19:29] <rebs> its hard loadedanvils
[19:29] <nicomachus> no eve, no dark souls.
[19:29] <OerHeks> loadedanvils, is that a windows game ?
[19:29] <nicomachus> is daftykins gone or something? he's usually pretty quick to order people back ON TOPIC
[19:29] <EriC^> Thenewone: ok, try sudo service lightdm restart and try to login again
[19:30] <Thenewone> Failed to start session
[19:30] <mzaza> I have enabled laptop-mode and configured successfully. However I have noticed when on battery power I have to poweron the laptop and restart the service laptop-mode so it apply the battery profile.
[19:30] <EriC^> Thenewone: is there a box where you type your password that lets you select the session?
[19:30] <OerHeks> EriC^, doesn't he have to switch with ctrl alt F7?
[19:30] <daftykins> nicomachus: me and the other volunteers who care about the rules, yeah :)
[19:30] <daftykins> nicomachus: you're in luck! i just this second came back
[19:30] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya i select the user and i type the password in the field for it
[19:30] <EriC^> OerHeks: nah it will switch to tty7
[19:31] <Thenewone> EriC^, after that it's give this message : Failed to start session
[19:31] <EriC^> Thenewone: if you want, try nano ~/.xinitrc and type exec openbox-session
[19:31] <EriC^> then try startx ( no sudo )
[19:31] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:32] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo service lightdm stop first
[19:32] <Thenewone> EriC^, i dont have .xinitrc
[19:32] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:32] <ErfanBs> !dropbox
[19:32] <EriC^> Thenewone: yeah you have to create it
[19:32] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:34] <Jordan_U> neldogz: I would personally just stick to the -generic kernel. -lowlatency is intended more for live audio processing, and may increase or decrease your latency in a game because in games that are already using a lot of GPU and CPU just having better throughput can decrease your latency, and -lowlatency optimises for latency at the cost of throughput.
[19:34] <Thenewone> EriC^, so i type exec openbox-session ???
[19:34] <Thenewone> EriC^, in the file i creat
[19:34] <EriC^> Thenewone: yes then save and exit
[19:35] <Thenewone> EriC^, when i type a wrong password it give invalid password. please try again when i type the correct oen it give failed
[19:36] <EriC^> what do you mean?
[19:36] <EriC^> you should already be logged into your user's account
[19:36] <Thenewone> EriC^, from the interface lightdm dont work
[19:36] <Thenewone> EriC^, but from the shell ya it's work nice
[19:36] <EriC^> Thenewone: nevermind lightdm for a bit
[19:36] <EriC^> Thenewone: after you save and exit type startx
[19:36] <Thenewone> EriC^,  i will reboot the machine
[19:37] <EriC^> Thenewone: no need..
[19:37] <EriC^> type sudo service lightdm stop
[19:37] <EriC^> then startx
[19:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, it's working
[19:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[19:37] <Thenewone> IT'S WORKING FINALYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[19:37] <Thenewone> I LOVE LINUX IT'S SO HARD :D
[19:37] <Thenewone> thanks guys :D
[19:37] <EriC^> lol wait
[19:38] <EriC^> Thenewone: do you want to use lightdm?
[19:38] <Thenewone> EriC^, i really dont understand why should i install lightdm and openbox ???
[19:38] <Thenewone> EriC^, i'm noob in linux but this dont make any sense
[19:39] <Thenewone> EriC^, if you have time can you explain where the problem was ?
[19:39] <acz32> then go read the documentation
[19:39] <EriC^> Thenewone: lightdm is the login screen, you can set it up so that when you login to the terminal, it starts openbox, or after you type startx
[19:40] <EriC^> Thenewone: or you can use lightdm and you get a login screen that will start openbox when you login
[19:40] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok if i delete now lightdm this will not cost a problem ?
[19:41] <EriC^> Thenewone: no, but you won't have a nice login screen
[19:41] <akiva-thinkpad> is there a good ubuntu channel to ask about hardware? I want to buy some ~
[19:41] <EriC^> Thenewone: it will boot to ctrl+alt+f1 and you login there
[19:41] <OerHeks> !hcl
[19:42] <EriC^> Thenewone: you can get lightdm to work if you want
[19:42] <SysAdmin7> !tab
[19:42] <jerryt> We're running a Dell server with hardware raid.  When we do IO operations such as extracting a large tar file a kworker process pegs IO at 99% or so.  pref points to cpu_startup_entry.  Any ideas?
[19:42] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya how ?
[19:43] <OerHeks> jerryt, why would such a job that takes 99% bad?
[19:44] <OerHeks> *be bad
[19:44] <jerryt> The throughput is 20M/s
[19:44] <jerryt> Starts off at around 200 - 250.
[19:44] <Thenewone> EriC^, THANKS MAN ALOT FOR YOUR TIME
[19:44] <daftykins> ugh enough caps
[19:45] <EriC^> Thenewone: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[19:45] <SysAdmin7> derp
[19:45] <EriC^> Thenewone: no problem
[19:45] <EriC^> Thenewone: also type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:45] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Do you really intend for them to reconfigure every package on their system, with all of the uneeded prompts that will entail?
[19:46] <jerryt> OerHeks, tar will be using 99% for just a moment and the transfer rate is 200+ then kworker jumps in at 99% and the transfer drops to 20 or below.
[19:46] <EriC^> Thenewone: also type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:46] <tj83> #chat
[19:46] <EriC^> Jordan_U: good point, didn't know it does that
[19:46] <Jordan_U> Thenewone: Don't run that dpkg-reconfigure command yet.
[19:46] <EriC^> Thenewone: just type sudo dpkg-configure lightdm
[19:46] <EriC^> Thenewone: sorry, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:47] <Thenewone> EriC^, it give me a pachage configuration
[19:47] <EriC^> Thenewone: which command did you run? the -a?
[19:47] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya
[19:47] <Thenewone> EriC^, dpkg-reconfigure -a
[19:49] <EriC^> Jordan_U: how do you kill that in a tty?
[19:49] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Indeed, when using dpkg-reconfigure the priority for questions is set to its lowest value, which means that all questions are asked, even those that have already been answered before or that have sane defaults that work for 99.9% of people. Killing dpkg-reconfigure might be a bad idea :(
[19:51] <EriC^> i ran it here
[19:52] <EriC^> dunno
[19:52] <EriC^> i'll try restarting
[19:53] <EriC^> i killed it with kill -9 but dpkg is still locked
[19:53] <daftykins> !aptlock
[19:53] <daftykins> :D
[19:53] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Yeah, killing dpkg is bad.
[19:53] <EriC^> it probably writes everything at the end right though?
[19:54] <EriC^> first question is about user readable home dirs
[19:54] <EriC^> Thenewone: you still there?
[19:55] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya
[19:55] <EriC^> ah, this is still running /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/adduser.config reconfigure 3.113+nmu3ubuntu3
[19:55] <EriC^> i think it's ok
[19:55] <Jordan_U> EriC^: I think the best course of action is to just go through the hassle of "hitting OK" as many times as needed :(
[19:56] <EriC^> Jordan_U: but it seems to just call the scripts one after another
[19:58] <EriC^> Jordan_U: ok, pressing ok on the first choice changed the user dir perms for new users
[19:58] <EriC^> let me see if killing it change anything
[19:59] <Jordan_U> EriC^: I wouldn't want to kill dpkg if it were only for a dpkg-reconfigure of a single package either. It's probably an over cautious approach, but I don't know enough about the dark magic of dpkg to say that for sure, and breaking dpkg can be bad. At the same time, I would have hoped that choosing the defauls would lead to no net change in configuration, but you seem to be saying that's not the case.
[20:00] <Jordan_U> Thenewone: Please stay on the line :)
[20:01] <EriC^> Jordan_U: yeah, i just tried to kill it and the option it had before is still there
[20:01] <Thenewone> Jordan_U, it's ok :D
[20:01] <Guest44182> Hi! Ubuntu 14.04 MATE desktop. I want to set it to not start the DE...as in, I can SSH into it. Where do I modify the runlevel and which do I choose? Thanks.
[20:01] <EriC^> i think no harm is done
[20:01] <EriC^> i'll try restarting anyways just to see
[20:03] <blaine_> i have a fresh machine, and am trying to install via the net install image. booting from USB drive. during install, partition setup won't recognize /dev/sda. EVEN THOUGH fdisk -l shows it, and i can partition it directly (successfully) with fdisk. any thoughts on wtf?
[20:03] <EriC^^> seems ok
[20:03] <EriC^^> any way to check dpkg is all good?
[20:04] <andybrine> Thanks for your help bekks, got it sorted. Its going to take some time but should be sorted soon :)
[20:04] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Is /dev/sda simply not listed in the partition setup, or is it listed but appears empty when it should have partitions?
[20:04] <blaine_> Jordan_U: not listed at all. BUT /dev/sdb (my USB drive) is listed
[20:05] <EriC^^> just tried using dpkg -i , no errors
[20:05] <blaine_> there's also two messages, asking if i want to 'enable' raid devices that were found (mdam containers). i've tried all combinations of yes/no but it makes no difference
[20:05] <EriC^^> Thenewone: i think it'll be ok
[20:05] <EriC^^> Thenewone: try sudo pkill dpkg
[20:05] <EriC^^> in ctrl+alt+f2
[20:05] <blaine_> also, i've booted in all combinations of IDE, ACSI, legacy, native etc
[20:05] <Jordan_U> blaine_: I was just about to ask if the drive had every been part of a RAID array :)
[20:05] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i rebooted the machine
[20:05] <Jordan_U> s/every/ever/
[20:06] <Thenewone> EriC^^, how should run the dpkg
[20:06] <EriC^^> Thenewone: ok, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[20:06] <blaine_> Jordan_U: nope! it's totally fresh. not sure why it's asking me about raid -- there may be a hardware controller (maybe?) but it appears to be disabled in bios
[20:06] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs /dev/sda".
[20:06] <blaine_> Jordan_U: k one sec (i'll have to type it, as this is a physical machine)
[20:07] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i'm root now
[20:07] <Thenewone> EriC^^, wait
[20:08] <Thenewone> EriC^^, nothing happen
[20:09] <EriC^^> Thenewone: ok, type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:10] <blaine_> Jordan_U: no wipefs on the net install image
[20:10] <ycyclist> I cannot seem to get a simple go lang script to work with postgres on my Ubuntu.  It appears I have a package missing:  cannot find package "github.com/lib/pq"
[20:10] <Thenewone> EriC^^, the folder lightdm is empty just one file in users.conf
[20:11] <EriC^^> oh
[20:11] <EriC^^> you should have a file there called lightdm.conf
[20:11] <EriC^^> this is mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733044/
[20:12] <Thenewone> ok i will creat one
[20:12] <blaine_> Jordan_U: any other thoughts?
[20:13] <EriC^^> Thenewone: oh nevermind, it doesn't come by default but you can add it if you want
[20:13] <EriC^^> give it a shot anyways it won't harm
[20:13] <Thenewone> EriC^^, ok :D
[20:13] <EriC^^> add mine there, and replace ubuntu with openbox
[20:14] <Thenewone> ok thanks
[20:14] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Is apt-get in the netboot image? Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB?
[20:16] <EriC^^> Thenewone: type dpkg -l | grep greeter
[20:16] <EriC^^> Thenewone: you might need to change the greeter too
[20:17] <Jordan_U> blaine_: "sudo blkid /dev/sda" could give us some of the same info wipefs would, if blkid is available.
[20:18] <syntroPi> when im using libvirt (via virt.manager/kvm) and want to have my images on an external (ntfs) usb disk, which permissions would that need? Currently its rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2 and it LOOKs like 777 but actially its not.. :-/
[20:19] <Thenewone> EriC^^, ii unity-greeter   14.0.11-0ubuntu
[20:19] <Thenewone> 1 amd64 Unity Greeter
[20:19] <blaine_> Jordan_U: interesting -- UUID="Dell ^P(" TYPE="ddf_raid_member"
[20:19] <blaine_> that's it
[20:20] <Desu> Jordan_U: lsblk > blkid
[20:20] <EriC^^> ok, no need to change it
[20:20] <blaine_> sdb at least has label, type, etc.
[20:20] <blaine_> Desu: i dont have lsblk
[20:20] <EriC^^> Thenewone: save the file then type sudo service lightdm restart
[20:20] <Desu> blaine_: debian?
[20:20] <Desu> er.. s/debian/ancient ubuntu/
[20:20] <Thenewone> EriC^^, ok
[20:20] <blaine_> Desu: ubuntu net install w/ unrecognized hdd in the installer
[20:20] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Yup. Wipefs would have given us the offset of those signatures, and allowed us to easily and safely remove them.
[20:21] <blaine_> Jordan_U: interesting -- so is it something ON the disk itself, or is it a bug in the installer?
[20:21] <blaine_> maybe i just need to go get a usb dvdrom device
[20:21] <neutralizer> do you know where should I create uxterm config file so they always show truetype fonts and in tiny size?
[20:21] <blaine_> i wonder why it is a ddf_raid_member, that doesn't make sense if it's a fresh drive? maybe the client had something installed and didn't do a clean wipe
[20:22] <Jordan_U> blaine_: It's something on the disk itself. I would argue that it's also a bug that the installer doesn't warn you better, and explain why it's refusing to work with the drive rather than just not showing it.
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sda (??) would that not remove that embedded raid data ?
[20:23] <blaine_> Bashing-om: i tried that, but it had some errors
[20:23] <EriC^^> Thenewone: any luck?
[20:23] <Bashing-om> blaine_: Waters are getting deep, and deeper .
[20:23] <blaine_> Bashing-om: yeah it's weird. can i just nuke it somehow?
[20:24] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i think i was smart i add in this line 'autologin-user=( my account name )' lol
[20:24] <Thenewone> it's restaring again and again
[20:24] <EriC^^> Thenewone: no that's for autologin
[20:24] <Thenewone> i deleted what i did
[20:24] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i deleted that
[20:24] <EriC^^> you have to have no password set for it to work i think
[20:25] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo service lightdm restart again
[20:25] <Thenewone> EriC^^, and rebooted but it's still restart the login screen
[20:25] <Bashing-om> blaine_: Jordan_U is the guru here .. IF it were me I would resort to a hex editor, and wipe the first of the drive // Jordan_U can we do that with 'dd' ??
[20:25] <Thenewone> EriC^^, ok
[20:25] <Jordan_U> blaine_: The signatures are probably in the first MiB, last MiB, or both of the drive.
[20:25] <blaine_> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/nxqtSdpM
[20:25] <raschy> Anyone that might be able to help? I've got an Elantech touchpad that wont move the cursor but will let me left click
[20:26] <blaine_> Jordan_U: is there a tool for resetting that?
[20:26] <Thenewone> EriC^^, it's working
[20:26] <Thenewone> i will do all this again
[20:26] <Thenewone> to save it in my minde
[20:26] <Thenewone> EriC^^, thanks alot
[20:27] <EriC^^> ok
[20:27] <EriC^^> no problem
[20:27] <Thenewone> EriC^^, is the best cooooooooooool LINUX FOR HARDCORGAMERS
[20:27] <Atomic_pO2mo> rashy turn your touchpad off through terminal and make generic usb the master
[20:27] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Yes, wipefs :) Since we don't have that, we can try dding zeros into the first and last MiB of the drive. The drive has no important data on it currently, correct?
[20:28] <Bashing-om> blaine_: That offset advisory is above my skill set, I just do not know .
[20:28] <Jordan_U> blaine_: I'm also trying to find exactly where ddf_raid_member metadata is stored, so we can be a little more precise and sure about things.
[20:28] <raschy> Atomic_p02mo how would I go about doing that?
[20:29] <blaine_> Jordan_U: ok cool. i'll hunt around too. and yes, no data should be on this drive
[20:29] <blaine_> meaning, we can nuke it
[20:30] <blaine_> Jordan_U: http://www.physics.uc.edu/~bryantln/documentation/badtype.html ?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> blaine_: That seems to imply that the signature (or at least one copy of it) is at the end of the drive, but the instructions aren't very good (they don't say what size their HD is or how they came up with that seek= value).
[20:32] <kokut> Hello, is there a way to choose the lcd speakers instead of the ones from the notebook?
[20:33] <kokut> nvm i think i found it
[20:33] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Trying "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda" can't hurt.
[20:33] <blaine_> Jordan_U: did that -- couldn't open for write - not zeroing
[20:33] <blaine_> Jordan_U: maybe i'll dd the entire drive?
[20:33] <blaine_> with /dev/zero
[20:34] <kokut> Nope, i
[20:34] <kokut> I tried muting the laptop ones and not the lcd ones (HDMI) and it doesn't work
[20:35] <Jordan_U> blaine_: That will work, though it's overkill.
[20:36] <blaine_> heh. well, if we cant find which exact byte to do it is at least a plan b
[20:36] <kokut> cool now i can't hear anything
[20:37] <EriC^^> kokut: try pavucontrol
[20:37] <syntroPi> Im trying to mount an ntfs usb hdd properly (with permission handling) in /etc/fstab. How can I get it mounted to that i can grant other users on my system to write to it?
[20:37] <EriC^^> kokut: usually just selecting the hdmi output in settings > sound switches it to hdmi
[20:38] <kokut> k found it, ty
[20:39] <EriC^^> syntroPi: try to mount it with fmask=000,dmask=000
[20:40] <blaine_> Jordan_U: nuking with dd /dev/zero, let's see if this works (ty for the help so far btw)
[20:41] <EriC^^> kokut: np
[20:42] <syntroPi> EriC^^, i tried the first answer from http://askubuntu.com/questions/92863/mount-ntfs-partition-at-startup-with-non-root-user-as-owner    but mount seems to just ignore my fstab and instead tells me "Using default user mapping"
[20:45] <Jordan_U> blaine_: You're welcome.
[20:48] <EriC^^> syntroPi: do you want it to automount when the system boots? do you want users to be able to execute stuff?
[20:48] <syntroPi> EriC^^, how can files appear as 777 but not be writeable?
[20:49] <EriC^^> syntroPi: you mean you only want them to be able to read the files?
[20:50] <syntroPi> EriC^^, what im trying is to deploy vm's with virt-manager (libvirt/kvm) on an external usb-hdd (ntfs). libvirt runs under another user hence i have to mount it differently so it can write to it
[20:50] <OerHeks> NTFS cannot handle posix fileattrib, change that usb in ext4 would be a solution
[20:51] <syntroPi> OerHeks, not an option there is already too much files on it
[20:52] <syntroPi> OerHeks, and it seems that it may be possible that NTFS can handle posix fileattribs, there is permissions and also user mapping
[20:52] <sinthetek> i'm trying to reset my xorg and video driver config to the default state ubuntu provides (on 14.10). tried out fglrx and when i tried to revert back to default, compiz is using way too much cpu, video is choppy etc despite dri being active
[20:52] <EriC^^> syntroPi: i think everytime it mounts it will set all files to have to same permissions, it doesn't save them across mounts
[20:53] <EriC^^> *the
[20:53] <thomast> bonsoir tous le monde
[20:54] <sinthetek> originally i was trying to improve flashplugin performance when playing on an external monitor but fglrx wouldn't adjust brightness etc
[20:54] <thomast> jai une question quelquun peux maider?
[20:55] <syntroPi> EriC^^, well id be fine with that as long as libvirt can write to it. files now appear owned by root and 777 but libvirt cannot write to them
[20:55] <OerHeks> !fr | thomast
[20:55] <OerHeks> english only in this channel please, thomast
[20:57] <syntroPi> Regardless from what i state in fstab it ALWAYS appears as (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[20:57] <syntroPi> my fstab entry now is /dev/sdc1    /media/master/Elements  ntfs      nls=iso8859-1,permissions,users,umask=000       0       0
[20:58] <syntroPi> i might blame fuse for that?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> syntroPi: How are you remounting after changing your fstab?
[20:59] <syntroPi> umount /media/master/Elements   then mount /media/master/Elements
[21:00] <Jordan_U> syntroPi: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts .
[21:04] <syntroPi> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733448/
[21:13] <m7t> anyone using atom ide for programing?
[21:14] <syntroPi> Jordan_U, it has to read from fstab since it knows its sdc1 but it wont honor the options stated there for some obscure reason
[21:15] <Jordan_U> syntroPi: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[21:16] <syntroPi> Jordan_U, mounting and unmounting leaves no msg there at all
[21:17] <EriC^^> syntroPi: what exactly are the permissions you want? mount won't state them but if you ls -l in the dir you'll see them set
[21:19] <syntroPi> EriC^^, ls -l yields "drwxrwxrwx 1 root root       0 Apr  3 22:09 vm"  but still libvirt wont write to that
[21:20] <EriC^^> syntroPi: you mean ls -l on the mountpoint?
[21:21] <EriC^^> syntroPi: what's the mountpoint?
[21:22] <syntroPi> EriC^^, its also that 777 root before mounting and after as well
[21:23] <EriC^^> syntroPi: ok, where are you mounting it?
[21:23] <syntroPi> EriC^^, changed it now to /media/Elements hmm you think nautilus interferes? lemme try somewhere else
[21:24] <EriC^^> syntroPi: only the user Elements can read that dir
[21:25] <syntroPi> tried now /mnt/Elements --- no fun :-(
[21:25] <EriC^^> syntroPi: ok, type ls -l /mnt/Elements
[21:25] <EriC^^> sorry
[21:25] <EriC^^> ls -ld /mnt/Elements
[21:25] <blaine_> Jordan_U: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 seek=$(( $(blockdev --getsz /dev/sda)-1024)) count=1024
[21:25] <blaine_> that appears to have worked, blkid returns nothing now
[21:25] <blaine_> looks like my meta data was stored at the *end* of the device
[21:27] <syntroPi> EriC^^, yup still that 777 root root
[21:27] <syntroPi> why are there options for ntfs-3g when they are being ignored completely?
[21:27] <EriC^^> syntroPi: ok with your user, can you type touch /mnt/Elements/bla
[21:29] <teward> is rsync an effective replacement for cp if you're copying data from one folder to another within the same ownership/permissions space...?  (such as one folder in my home directory to another)
[21:29] <Bashing-om> blaine_: Thanks for the update. Confirms the "offset" advisory, huh .
[21:29] <syntroPi> EriC^^, yup success 777 root as usual
[21:30] <EriC^^> syntroPi: so you can write to it?
[21:30] <syntroPi> even stopped udisk2 service now, no difference
[21:30] <syntroPi> yup can write
[21:31] <Artej> hi
[21:31] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Great. I expect that the installer will be happy with the disk now as well.
[21:31] <Artej> how do I allow ssh on my ubuntu machine?
[21:31] <daftykins> Artej: install openssh-server
[21:32] <Artej> I mean allow access from outside my LAN
[21:32] <Artej> ports are already forwarded
[21:32] <blaine_> Jordan_U: can confirm, installer is happy as a clam
[21:32] <Artej> but I still can't access ssh
[21:32] <daftykins> Artej: single port, 22 - not ports plural
[21:32] <Artej> 22 is open
[21:32] <Artej> yes
[21:32] <blaine_> Bashing-om: yeah for sure. definitely learned something today!
[21:32] <daftykins> Artej: then you must have forwarded it to the wrong LAN IP
[21:33] <Artej> is there some built in firewall because I am sure it's forwarded to right machine
[21:33] <syntroPi> i bet its some gnome or fuse black magic, dangit
[21:34] <syntroPi> something that "makes users life" easier
[21:34] <EriC^^> syntroPi: if your user can write to it, then it's something to do with the libvrt etc.
[21:35] <EriC^^> not fstab
[21:35] <rypervenche> Artej: Not enabled by default. Either your daemon is not listening, not on the right IP/port, or the firewall is to blame.
[21:35] <daftykins> Artej: run "netstat -tuln" on your system and look for ":22" listening. note that you likely can't SSH to your own external IP from inside your network, get someone else to try.
[21:35] <mamece2> Im back.. who canhelp me with my login problem? I log in and the pc hangs. Screen looks awful
[21:36] <syntroPi> EriC^^, but why does it always mount with fuseblk and the same options regardless from what i write in fstab??
[21:36] <EriC^^> syntroPi: it doesn't, try sudo umount /mnt/Elements, then put other options like fmask=777,dmask=777
[21:37] <EriC^^> it should mount with -------- as permissions
[21:37] <Bashing-om> mamece2: If you boot to terminal, system is stable ? What errors are generated when starting the GUI from terminal ?
[21:37] <FOx__> سثقرثق هقؤزةسىهقؤزىثف
[21:37] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I can ssh to the pc, everything is good at CLI. I cant do anything when i log in at GUI level
[21:38] <syntroPi> EriC^^, well yeah that changed permissions to none but the fuseblk is still that
[21:39] <cuddylier> How do I kill this process?
[21:39] <cuddylier> tcp6       0      0 104.37.29.13:25565      :::*                    LISTEN      -
[21:39] <cuddylier> It has no process ID but it's using up port 25565 on that IP
[21:39] <EriC^^> fuseblk is the partition type i think
[21:39] <EriC^^> filesystem type*
[21:39] <Bashing-om> mamece2: OK, good .. what then are we working with graphics' wise ? -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- .
[21:39] <YvesLevier> plz how to change a room subject?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> YvesLevier: Please ask in #freenode for network related questions.
[21:40] <YvesLevier> Thx jordan
[21:40] <Jordan_U> YvesLevier: You're welcome.
[21:40] <EriC^^> cuddylier: try lsof -i :25565
[21:41] <cuddylier> EriC^^ I have lots of processes on other IPs on port 25565 so I need to kill only that one.
[21:41] <EriC^^> grep for it maybe
[21:42] <cuddylier> EriC^^ Do you know an example command i can use?
[21:43] <EriC^^> lsof -i :25565 | grep 104.37.29.13
[21:43] <hkrrsx> cuddylier: can you telnet to localhost on port 25565? If so, do you get any headers in return?
[21:43] <EriC^^> the second column should be the pid
[21:46] <skinux> What is the proper permissions of a directory for PHP to be able to write to it under /var/www?
[21:46] <cuddylier> hkrrsx: I have lots of processes on different Ips on port 25565
[21:49] <hkrrsx> cuddylier: my apologizes
[21:52] <Bashing-om> !paste | mamece2 Playing catch up ?
[21:53] <mamece2> Bashing-om: OMG sorry i got distracted. this is the command results http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733705/
[21:54] <Bashing-om> mamece2: :) .. look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733705/ .
[21:55] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I confirm is a NVIDIA card, that is true, I reinstalled the drivers as instructed in askubuntu.com . I am here because i tried everything, this is the last stand
[21:55] <syntroPi> EriC^^, reinstalled virtmanager seems to work now
[21:58] <daftykins> Artej: solved it?
[21:58] <Artej> daftykins: it's a mystery :/
[21:58] <pid1> I've switched back to Ubuntu after being on Arch for a long time. How painful will the upgrade be between 14.10 and 15.04? The only packages I have installed outside of apt-get or umake are Chrome and Sublime Text.
[21:58] <syntroPi> EriC^^, before i was using virtualbox but since i lost some data because my Xorg crashed mi trying to have something that doesnt depend on gnome-shells (in)stability
[21:58] <daftykins> Artej: hmm shouldn't be :P you understand what i said about not being able to test from your own network, right?
[21:59] <bekks> syntroPi: Virtualbox doesnt depend on a working X.
[21:59] <syntroPi> i hope that qemu / libvirt backend is more stable and survives such desasters
[21:59] <Artej> daftykins: testing from mobile connection I have
[21:59] <daftykins> so that might block it too
[21:59] <daftykins> Artej: try using grc.com :>
[21:59] <syntroPi> bekks, are you refering to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagrant_(software)
[22:00] <antonio_> hello good evening from Spain
[22:00] <bekks> syntroPi: Entirely no. You can run Virtualbox machines headless, no need for X. You can manage them using VBoxManage, no need for X either.
[22:02] <syntroPi> bekks, what is the parent process for such a virtual machine then?
[22:03] <bekks> syntroPi: The same as for every VirtualBox VM: VBoxSVC
[22:03] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Near as I can tell you should be runing the 304 version of the nvidia driver ( if ya require proprietary) .. is this a lap top machine, notebook or desktop ?
[22:04] <mamece2> Bashing-om: its a desktop
[22:05] <Bashing-om> mamece2: OK, what version driver did you install and from what source ? The output do say that a Nvidia driver is loaded .
[22:05] <syntroPi> bekks, hmm well for me it crashed my vm's when started from the gui, and my first impression on libvirt it that it runs much faster
[22:06] <sam_> こんにちは
[22:08] <syntroPi> !jp sam_
[22:08] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I follow the steps as instructed in askubuntu, I cant remember the excat command and its not in the history. extrange..
[22:08] <syntroPi> !jp | sam_
[22:09] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I remember I didnt install the 304 version, I went for the command that installs the last version
[22:10] <Bashing-om> mamece2: The file in /var/log/Xorg.0.log will relate what version was built .. I have confirmed you should be running the 304 version .
[22:11] <mamece2> Bashing-om: please take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733900/
[22:11] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733900/ .
[22:12] <daftykins> mamece2: that machine hasn't even been updated yet
[22:12] <mamece2> daftykins: what do u mean?
[22:13] <daftykins> mamece2: the kernel is an old one, so you've not installed updates :)
[22:13] <daftykins> also your setup isn't working because your display doesn't talk over VGA properly
[22:13] <daftykins> (if that's what's wrong, or maybe it's just on the wrong resolution)
[22:14] <mamece2> daftykins: I will update and upgrade.
[22:16] <[[thufir]]> I'm on trusty, but can't find the yate softphone client to install:  http://pastebin.com/wdKvC7FS
[22:16] <Thenewone> Hi guys how can i install sddm on ubuntu ?
[22:16] <Thenewone> i tryed sudo apt-get install sddm but nothing
[22:16] <bekks> !info sddm
[22:16] <Bashing-om> mamece2: daftykins ( :) ) .. CRT -1 ?/ Old old hardware .. disable 3d also per the log file .??
[22:17] <Thenewone> how to add it ?
[22:17] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: what's wrong with 'yate' in your package results?
[22:17] <bekks> Thenewone: what is this "sddm"?
[22:17] <Thenewone> or any other way to install it
[22:17] <mamece2> Bashing-om: the problems started when I connected my new monitor. I always used the old crt
[22:17] <Thenewone> bekks, display manager like lightdm
[22:17] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I'd love to solve the problem using the new one
[22:17] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: that's the server, I just want the client.  (it's like ekiga)
[22:18] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: why does it use the word 'client' in the name then? :)
[22:18] <daftykins> ah no i was just then reading the line below
[22:18] <daftykins> yate-qt4
[22:19] <[[thufir]]> heh, err, thanks...
[22:19] <Thenewone> how install sddm plz ?
[22:19]  * [[thufir]] slinks away
[22:21] <mirak> hello
[22:22] <mirak> is there a way to record the install for ncurses to be able to play it again ?
[22:22] <mirak> unatented ?
[22:22] <bekks> mirak: What are you actually trying to do?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Think'n ..gimme a bit . as to why the kernel is not seeing the new monitor .
[22:23] <mirak> bekks: I want to setup a vm at home, then replicate the installation at work.
[22:24] <mamece2> I am doing update && upgrade, then I will reboot with the new monitor plugged in
[22:24] <hkrrsx> Thenewone: According to the github page, https://github.com/sddm/sddm, there's a #sddm channel
[22:24] <bekks> mirak: Just clone the VM - or remember the command how you installed ncurses.
[22:24] <hkrrsx> sddm on irc.freenode.net
[22:24] <hkrrsx> sddm-devel on irc.freenode.net
[22:24] <Thenewone> hkrrsx,  thanks
[22:24] <mamece2> Bashing-om: nvidia-304 will upgrade
[22:24] <hkrrsx> :)
[22:25] <mirak> bekks: i would of course clone if could just plug a hard drive at work, that's not allowed at all.
[22:25] <acz32> i have ubuntu in a VM and installed virtualbox-guest-additions-iso and rebooted, but the VM window still won't expand or auto-resize. any ideas?
[22:25] <mirak> bekks: about ncurse, yes i install with ncurse, though I was hoping there would a way to replay such an installation.
[22:25] <mirak> but seem it's not possible
[22:26] <mirak> thks
[22:26] <Ivannnnnn> hi all
[22:26] <Thenewone> hi
[22:26] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Go ahead, the kernel is some kind of smart, let it upgrade the grahics driver\, reboot and let's then see what the situation is .
[22:27] <acz32> bekks: i've seen you helping in #vbox. maybe you would know
[22:28] <mamece2> Bashing-om: thank you for your help. lets see hwo this goes
[22:28] <bekks> acz32: Well, I'd use a vbox release from www.virtualbox.org, remove all installed guest additions packages, and install the guest additions as described in the vbox manual.
[22:28] <Bashing-om> mamece2: K, fingers crossed, like I say the kernel is some kind of smart . Update/upgrade can do wonders .
[22:29] <netixon> test
[22:30] <acz32> bekks: can i apt-get purge the package i installed or is that not enough?
[22:30] <bekks> acz32: Yeah, and all other packages with virtualbox in its name, in the guest.
[22:30] <acz32> ok
[22:31] <acz32> the auto-resize option from the virtualbox 'View' menu was greyed out
[22:31] <acz32> will try this
[22:32] <brandy_m> hi all
[22:33] <Ivannnnnn> brandy
[22:33] <Ivannnnnn> vlezni vbox
[22:33] <Ivannnnnn> D:
[22:33] <loadedanvils> hey all
[22:33] <loadedanvils> how do I get gnome 3.16?
[22:34] <loadedanvils> currently running ubuntu gnome 14.10, gnome-shell 3.14
[22:37] <marus> is there any fix to that?https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1354924
[22:37] <hkrrsx> loadedanvils: Please see the "Getting GNOME 3.16" section at the bottom of http://www.webupd8.org/2015/03/gnome-316-released-with-new.html
[22:37] <loadedanvils> yeah, I saw it hkrrsx
[22:38] <loadedanvils> 15.04 should be coming out in 20 days
[22:39] <hkrrsx> loadedanvils: Per https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging/?field.series_filter=vivid , "The packages here have been deemed not ready for general use, they have  known bugs and/or regressions, sometimes of a critical nature."
[22:39] <hkrrsx> TL;DR: use at your own risk
[22:39]  * hkrrsx digresses
[22:39] <loadedanvils> I saw that site too
[22:39] <loadedanvils> is there a way to download the packages from that page directly?
[22:39] <acz32> bekks: it worked. the guest additions iso in the ubuntu repo was the problem then
[22:40] <bekks> acz32: The version mismatch between the installed vbox version and the guest additions version was the problem :)
[22:41] <hkrrsx> loadedanvils: read the "Adding this PPA to your system" section of the launchpad page
[22:41] <loadedanvils> hkrrsx, I did read it
[22:42] <hkrrsx> loadedanvils: If you follow those instructions, you should be able to get GNOME 3.16
[22:42] <acz32> bekks: well glad i got it working now. still some issues like when i re-size the panel stays in its old position until i refresh the screen, but works good enough
[22:45] <pid1> I've switched back to Ubuntu after being on Arch for a long time. How painful will the upgrade be between 14.10 and 15.04? The only packages I have installed outside of apt-get or umake are Chrome and Sublime Text.
[22:46] <pid1> Are there any "best practices" I should go through before upgrading?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> pid1: Disable 3rd pary sources, update/upgrade 14.10 , disable sceen saver -> go for it .
[22:47] <Bashing-om> screen saver *
[22:48] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | pid1
[22:48] <azizLIGHT> i wnat to press "page up" and "page down" when numlock is off and cause it to do "media previous" and "media next" for my music player but only when numlock is off. please what can i use to do this?
[22:49] <azizLIGHT> i dont have previous track / next track keys on my keybvoard
[22:49] <mamece2> Bashing-om: the problem remains. It is all good until I log in. then the screen get black, the left border is distorted and the pc is hanged
[22:49] <pid1> Bashing-om, Since when does Ubuntu have a screensaver?
[22:49] <Njanta> please http://yhqz.oblogs.ru/180245460/2566850/
[22:51] <mamece2> Bashing-om: daftykins: at least its responding at cli level. the GUi is frozen
[22:51] <mamece2> Bashing-om: daftykins: the mouse pointer is not frozen
[22:52] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Shucks, what does the xorg log file relate now ?
[22:52] <Bashing-om> pid1: I do, but I do not run unity or gnome :) .
[22:53] <pid1> Ah.
[22:53] <vilugao> how to list packages not updated using apt-get? I updated and upgraded some hour ago, but now apt-get shows that I have 3 packages not updated.
[22:54] <Ghostxmaster4> i
[22:54] <Ghostxmaster4> hi
[22:54] <mamece2> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10734151/ this is the xorg log
[22:54] <Ghostxmaster4> hello
[22:54] <Ghostxmaster4> ?
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Bashing-om> mamece2: reading .
[22:55] <kokut> Ghostxmaster4: hi
[22:55] <mamece2> Bashing-om:  why still the CRT-1 if its connected to the new lcd monitor
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> hi kokut
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> hello
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> l
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> l
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> l
[22:56] <kokut> Ghostxmaster4: sup mufugga
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> l
[22:56] <daftykins> mamece2: 'cause you're using VGA likely.
[22:56] <kokut> aw man why u ban him he wasn't even cursing
[22:57] <loadedanvils> he was being annoying
[22:57] <kokut> it's friday night
[22:58] <owen--> Hello all. Just wondering if anyone knows of an application I could use on my Kubuntu that does session management? i.e. an application that can open several different file types depending on what project I'm working on.
[22:58] <Bashing-om> mamece2: " Samsung SyncMaster (CRT-1) (connected) " ... huh ? why ? oh why ? is the new display an LCD device ?
[22:59] <mamece2> Bashing-om: yes a the new monitor, a LCD .  idk why it keeps looggin a CRT-1
[22:59] <hkrrsx> owen--: would you elaborate on the file types in question
[23:00] <DaCoolMaster> owen--: what file types?
[23:01] <lior> ubuntu is the shit!
[23:02] <owen--> hkrrsx: Lets say I need to have 8 pdf, 3 libre office, perhaps two text files. Just wondering if there was a project/session management application that would open all these files depending on what job/project I was working with..
[23:02] <Bashing-om> mamece2: The driver is very unhappy " (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to support custom viewPortOut 1920 x 1080 +0 +0 " and lots of other warnings ... how are you connecting the display ? HDMI VGA ? a converter that the driver is not pleased with ?
[23:03] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I only have a CGA cable
[23:03] <mamece2> vga*
[23:03] <hkrrsx> owen--: I was hoping you were going to say web development files b/c then I'd say Sublime Text .... however
[23:04] <DaCoolMaster> So, i installed an application a couple of days ago but can't remember the name, is there anything i can do to find it?
[23:04] <Bashing-om> mamece2: daftykins ^^ is it time to look at the Xorg.conf file ?
[23:05] <daftykins> there shouldn't be one :)
[23:05] <owen--> hkrrsx: Is that domething that does file uploads to the web server when saving html, php files, like what bluefish used to do?
[23:05] <daftykins> if mamece2 isn't going to move off VGA, there'll be some trickery needed yeah
[23:06] <OerHeks> DaCoolMaster, easy, open softwarecenter or synaptic and goto history
[23:06] <DaCoolMaster> OerHeks: yea just thought about it, ty
[23:06] <zamba> how do i add the following url to my apt sources.list?
[23:06] <zamba> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/xiph/
[23:06] <hkrrsx> owen--: Observe: http://www.sublimetext.com/
[23:06] <Desu> zamba: uhm
[23:06] <Desu> zamba: that makes no sense
[23:06] <zamba> according to icecast developers it should be possible to add this as a PPA
[23:07] <zamba> i'm running 14.04
[23:07] <Desu> you want the correct subdir
[23:07] <zamba> and then you have the following: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/xiph/xUbuntu_14.04/ ?
[23:07] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Is that why the display is seen as a CRT rather than the new LCD monitor ? 'cuase I sure do not know .
[23:09] <daftykins> Bashing-om: as i mentioned earlier a few times, VGA :)
[23:10] <mamece2> daftykins: i cant believe it, i need to move form vga? D:
[23:10] <OerHeks> zamba, don't use suse packages, see their website and add the SVN or git  https://xiph.org/downloads/
[23:10] <Bashing-om> daftykins: K. swap the cable out to HDMI ?
[23:10] <zamba> OerHeks: this is the official packages from icecast
[23:10] <zamba> http://icecast.org/download/
[23:10] <mamece2> Bashing-om: let me check if i have one of those..
[23:10] <vok`> msg nickserv identify g4nd41f7h3gr3y
[23:10] <zamba> vok`: winning!
[23:10] <vok`> lol
[23:11] <OerHeks> zamba, since when does opensuse provide .deb packages?
[23:11] <zamba> OerHeks: i know they host files for owncloud as well
[23:11] <OerHeks> vok`, time to change password
[23:12] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[23:12] <vok`> OerHeks, indeed. Thanks.
[23:13] <mamece2> Bashing-om: daftykins its not fair I had my crt and everything was good
[23:13] <AegNuddel> Does anyone know how I find out the name of the location of my usb key on Linux?
[23:13] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, type: mount
[23:14] <OerHeks> it should be at the bottom of the list
[23:15] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Well. I can commiserate. I had a similar issue when we swapped out the wife's display . Did not like the adpator .. new cable fixed that issue .
[23:16] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I will try with a hdmi cable. brb
[23:16] <AegNuddel> hmmm
[23:18] <AegNuddel>  /dev/sdc1 on /media/Lexar ?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> mamece2: K. Again, fingers crossed .
[23:19] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, cd  /media/Lexar
[23:19] <OerHeks> media would be the standard place to mount it yes
[23:19] <daftykins> heh so now there's an HDMI cable. hrmm.
[23:19] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I feel scammed this monitor doesnt have HDMI port LOL
[23:22] <AegNuddel> so what path do I put to reference it OerHeks ?
[23:23] <vok`> Thanks for not making fun of me guys.
[23:23] <AegNuddel>  /dev/sdc1/media/Lexar ?
[23:23] <vok`> When I accidentally showed my password, I mean.
[23:23] <vok`> lol
[23:24] <AegNuddel> or just
[23:24] <OerHeks> vok`, no problem
[23:24] <mamece2> I will try with the TV
[23:24] <AegNuddel>  /dev/sdc1/?
[23:24] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, to copy file to/from ?
[23:24] <AegNuddel> yeah
[23:24] <AegNuddel> a terminal appplication is asking for t
[23:25] <AegNuddel> application
[23:25] <AegNuddel> so
[23:25] <AegNuddel> sorta in a way
[23:25] <Bashing-om> mamece2: I find that there is no HDMIport on a LCD display hard to accept. look close (??) .
[23:26] <mamece2> Bashing-om: yep , ino... what a piece of c...
[23:27] <mamece2> Bashing-om: Im testing with the TV
[23:27] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, to be sure that USB is used, maybe next time too, use the UUID > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Finding_the_UUID_of_your_partition
[23:27] <daftykins> Bashing-om: it does happen ;) cheap old ones typically.
[23:28] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, but /media/Lexar/ and /dev/sdc1/ are oke too
[23:28] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Getting close to a "I do not know" situation .. perhaps we can make up a Xorg.conf file to tell the system what to expect ? .. now that might be a real chore .. and a steep learning curve, IF a Xorg file is present, it will be used .
[23:28] <mamece2> Bashing-om: the same problem with the TV. i bet you want to see the log
[23:28] <AegNuddel> not that I should need it again hopefully, but did the iso I am writing need to be mounted special somehow?  It warned me it was mounted as read-only...
[23:29] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Will not hurt to read the news and see what the system thinks .. a new Xorg log file from a fresh reboot .
[23:29] <mamece2> Bashing-om: the new log http://paste.ubuntu.com/10734310/
[23:29] <daftykins> AegNuddel: are you putting an ubuntu ISO onto your flash drive for booting/installing from?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> mamece2: look'n and reading .
[23:30] <AegNuddel> mo
[23:30] <AegNuddel> no
[23:30] <mamece2> Bashing-om: what if I erase the xorg config and let the system create a new one. I think this is what happens when you erase xorg. iono for sure
[23:30] <daftykins> ok just checking.
[23:31] <AegNuddel> it's windows and I am using winusb
[23:31] <daftykins> mamece2: you don't need one at all, you shouldn't have a xorg.conf
[23:31] <mamece2> daftykins: what do u recommend to my problem? mantaining the same hardware
[23:32] <daftykins> mamece2: i don't really follow what you're asking.
[23:32] <Bashing-om> mamece2: so far so good " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (TOSHIBA-TV (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision ";  disable 3D ?
[23:32] <AegNuddel> error occurred ...
[23:32] <AegNuddel> bah
[23:33] <daNRG> hehe
[23:33] <daftykins> Bashing-om: nah that's standard in all logs with nvidia
[23:33] <mamece2> Bashing-om: maybe its 3D, but iono how to disable it
[23:36] <mamece2> daftykins: what can i do ?
[23:37] <daftykins> mamece2: make sure you don't have a xorg.conf then test the HDMI TV again.
[23:37] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Thanks will keep that "standard" in mind .. what means " TV encoder: Unknown " .. no viable EDID info ?
[23:38] <mamece2> daftykins: ok i am a noob. where should i check for a xorg.conf
[23:39] <daftykins> mamece2: "ls /etc/X11/"
[23:39] <Bashing-om> mamece2: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf .
[23:39] <daftykins> TV encoder, hmm not sure on that one
[23:39] <mamece2> theres only xorg.conf.failsafe
[23:39] <daftykins> ok good
[23:40] <daftykins> so what's the current situation? did the Toshiba TV work?
[23:40] <mamece2> no, thats bad. the toshiba doest work. im using a hdmi cable
[23:40] <daftykins> the Toshiba TV does not work over HDMI?
[23:40] <GunnDawg> I just discovered gnome fallback shell. Good bye unity! :)
[23:41] <AegNuddel> hmm nope.  Booted and showed windows but said files were missing
[23:41] <OerHeks> mamece2, your log shows it sees the toshiba tv, as connected. maybe try to reset the toshiba tv to defaults itself?
[23:42] <daftykins> AegNuddel: rather than keep giving us a commentary nobody can follow, can you phrase complete support questions? :)
[23:42] <mamece2> OerHeks: I dont think its the TV. It has the same behavior as the lcd and the crt
[23:44] <AegNuddel> WEll I'm not even sure what I am saying.  this winusb program was supposed to write the iso to the usb drive, but it warned me the iso was mounted as read-only, and it didn't all get copied, as when I plugged it into my other computer and windows started, it then told me flies were missing
[23:44] <wink_ndge> Currently moving to Ubuntu. Would it be foolish to install beta2?
[23:46] <Bashing-om> wink_ndge: Depends, what is your tollerance for breakage ?
[23:46] <wink_ndge> 14.10 it is then :P
[23:47] <daftykins> wink_ndge: 14.04.1 would be even better due to being LTS (long term support)
[23:47] <AegNuddel> I tried to make the permissions as loose as possible, but even though it says I did in the file manager, When I try to write it, it complains about it being mounted as read-only
[23:48] <Bashing-om> wink_ndge: Well .. 14.10 will soon be End-OF-Life .. the current stable Long Term Support releases are 12.04 and 14.04 -- stable .
[23:48] <AegNuddel> How do you "mount" an ISO anyway?!
[23:49] <Bashing-om> AegNuddel: From a Linux distro ? to mount the .iso ?
[23:49] <GunnDawg> What are some of the better options for replacing Unity in 14.10? Gnome Fallback? Gnome 3?
[23:50] <spagewmf> Is this the channel for 15.04? I did a painless dist-upgrade to it, but am havingproblems getting it to load my encrypted swap and disk.
[23:50] <daftykins> no, #ubuntu+1
[23:51] <spagewmf> daftykins: thanks.  GunnDawg , Gnome 3 is nice is some ways. If you want Windows-like, I like Kubuntu. YMMV
[23:51] <Bashing-om> GunnDawg: There is no best .. what works 'better' for you .. I personally prefer xfce .. just a personal thing .
[23:51] <AegNuddel> Bashing-om, it's...a program for writing a windows iso from ubuntu called winusb
[23:52] <GunnDawg> Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with the KDE desktop, correct?
[23:52] <mamece2> so, my screen problem its unfixable?
[23:52] <hkrrsx> GunnDawg: Here's a list of the more popular desktop environments with their respective features and system requirements
[23:52] <hkrrsx> http://scriptevolution.com/blog/2012/08/top-10-ubuntu-desktop-environments-and-shells/
[23:53] <Bashing-om> AegNuddel: No idea, sorry .. I see http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ often recomended to make up the install medium . though it too sometimes has it's problems .
[23:53] <GunnDawg> What is the prefered distro for gaming? I seem to be able to play most everything I want so far except for the FPS issues with League of Legends
[23:56] <AegNuddel> Bashing-om, wrong way anyway.  I have Linux, and need to write Windows install media
[23:58] <Jordan_U> AegNuddel: iso9660 is a read only filesystem, so it makes sense that when you mount it it's read only. That shouldn't be a problem.