[00:19] <ahoneybun> back
[00:19] <ahoneybun> AT&T wifi sucks
[00:25] <frecel> ahoneybun: I live on an acreage, I'm stuck on wimax
[06:23] <xennex81> i am continuing the installation from yesterday from where I left off. The installer was unable to configure network-manager because there had been a manual change to some file (/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown) which was irrelevant but it caused the installer (dpkg --configure -a, given by apt-get install -f network-manager) to prompt for an answer.  
[06:24] <xennex81> apparently the installer (that was launched from muon-updater) cannot handle prompts, but the "Show Terminal" button was unresponsive.
[06:24] <valorie> xennex81: usually one just does `apt-get install -f` with no arguments
[06:24] <xennex81> I see but it had the same effect I believe :p
[06:24] <valorie> or these days, apt install -f
[06:24] <xennex81> in any case it told me to go fix it with that other command :P
[06:25] <xennex81> oh
[06:25] <xennex81> :)
[06:25] <valorie> there has been a recent change in network-manager, at least at the lib level
[06:25] <valorie> I've seen updates for maybe 3 days in a row
[06:27] <valorie> none right now though
[06:27] <valorie> xennex81: do you have any PPAs added?
[06:28] <xennex81> no I have already shown my sources.list to Lordievader yesterday, but that was not the issue I believe
[06:28] <xennex81> I just had done some manual changes, it prompted me also for 2 other things.
[06:31] <valorie> what manual changes?
[06:31] <valorie> and remind me -- you are upgrading from 14.10 to vivid beta?
[06:46] <xennex81> the change to network-manager was merely an insignificant change to ifupdown, the chaining script to /etc/init.d/if-up.d/ or none at all. I don't know even, I don't remember editing it for a change.
[06:46] <xennex81> but I did not check for the changes, I was a bit too hasty for that just now.
[06:52] <valorie> ok, you probably need the experts such as yofel to appear online
[06:52] <valorie> or maybe lordievader
[06:57] <xennex81> not necessary
[06:57] <xennex81> it's not for me, for them
[06:57] <xennex81> i'm just wanting to report a bug but the report tool doesn't work :P.
[07:02] <valorie> for a launchpad bug, try `ubuntu-bug packagename` in the cli
[07:02] <valorie> most excellent way to file a bug
[08:00] <xennex81> valorie: it fails
[08:01] <xennex81> but I've filed a bug report about ubuntu-bug failing to file a bug report, if that's what you need to know
[08:03] <xennex81> going to reboot now and see if I still have a sytem ;-).
[09:20] <ovidiu-florin> Mornin'
[09:21] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin 
[09:25] <ovidiu-florin> hello Riddell
[09:26] <oliviert> Good morning.
[09:26] <yofel> *yawn* moin
[09:31]  * ovidiu-florin just woke up and he's thirsty as a desert, and with eyes still red as gems
[09:45] <Riddell> late night out last night people?
[09:47] <ovidiu-florin> I tried to relax a bit, and loosen up
[09:48] <ovidiu-florin> very stressfull week , this week was...
[09:55]  * Riddell gives ovidiu-florin a massage
[09:55] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: thanks
[09:56] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I couldn't get a hold of doko
[10:01] <soee> what was the command to do upgrade to vivid ? look @ #kubuntu
[10:01] <soee> Riddell: ^
[10:04] <ovidiu-florin> soee: mornin'
[10:05] <soee> good morning ovidiu-florin
[10:06] <Riddell> soee: kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[10:06] <soee> Riddell: thanks, he will do fresh install
[10:07] <soee> as there are not any data he wants to save, so i think fresh one is much better for vivid than jumping from 14.04 ?
[10:07] <Riddell> you can't jump from 14.04 indeed
[10:15] <yofel> hm, should still theoretically be possible, even if currently unsupported (after all you eventually have to be able to upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04)
[10:15] <yofel> but it's at least completely untested
[10:57] <ovidiu-florin> do you gyus also see the header image moved to the left?? http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[10:59] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ^
[10:59] <soee> ovidiu-florin: yes, due to added img-responsive class, that gives the mage display: block;
[11:00] <ovidiu-florin> soee: so remvoe that class?
[11:01] <soee> ovidiu-florin: sure ,but i dont now what you want to do with the header image and how it iwl work in the end
[11:01] <ovidiu-florin> soee: you told me yesterday to leave it, when I asked you
[11:01] <ovidiu-florin> now you say to remove it
[11:01] <ovidiu-florin> so....
[11:02] <soee> ovidiu-florin: i tole to leave it in styles file, so it an be used in other placed than header image
[11:02] <soee> *told
[11:11] <soee> ovidiu-florin: did yu get image that ahoneybun gave you yesterday ?
[11:11] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[11:11] <ovidiu-florin> I'll add it in a few moments
[11:11] <soee> nice
[11:26] <ahoneybun> back
[11:26] <ahoneybun> thanks soee
[11:31] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I have to leave now, can you please add a bug report for the image that ahoneybun made?
[11:31]  * ovidiu-florin is out
[11:34] <soee> ovidiu-florin: done https://github.com/ovidiub13/KubuntuAdverticaLightChild/issues/3
[11:36] <ahoneybun> soee: does it not work?
[11:36] <soee> ahoneybun: what ?
[11:36] <ahoneybun> why is there a bug report against it?
[11:36] <soee> ahoneybun: its a TASK :)
[11:36] <soee> do something that has to be done
[11:37] <soee> *so
[11:37] <ahoneybun> trello?
[11:37] <soee> well as the page is now on github, i prefer to put there things to be done
[11:37] <soee> as we have all in one place - files and thigns to be done
[11:37] <ahoneybun> true
[11:38] <soee> so i have reported this so far https://github.com/ovidiub13/KubuntuAdverticaLightChild/issues
[11:38] <ahoneybun> cool
[11:38] <soee> and we can close each issue via commit message :)
[11:39]  * ahoneybun thinks OxygenOS for his OPO is just stock Lollipop
[12:21] <seaLne> has anyone seen vivid not starting with errors like "kworker/0:0:4 blocked for more than 120 seconds" also alternatly complains about plymothd?
[12:22] <seaLne> this was after updating today and rebooting, though the laptop hadn't been rebooted in a few days
[12:24] <soee> didnt try after todays updates :)
[12:24] <soee> there was kernel update i think
[12:24] <soee> and upstart
[12:24] <seaLne> yeah
[12:24] <soee> but we are using systemd
[12:24] <seaLne> i remember noticing that
[14:15] <ovidiu-florin> I'm back
[14:18] <ovidiu-florin> soee: in https://trello.com/c/LKijjLlb/10-general-todo there's an attachment
[14:18] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: General ToDo ++ OB, AH, PA, SI, JAR, CS, P]
[14:18] <ovidiu-florin> is there something there that I've missed?
[14:23] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[14:27] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can you make that featured image 450px height?
[14:28] <ahoneybun> ok ovidiu-florin
[14:29] <ahoneybun> width is ok then?
[14:29] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[14:30] <ahoneybun> ok I made it 500px just in case
[14:30] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://imgur.com/edLu8gu
[14:32] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/
[14:32] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[14:32] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ^^
[14:32] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^^^
[14:33] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I'd still like to add pictures to the team page
[14:33] <ovidiu-florin> will you do this or shall I move https://trello.com/c/tRz6Z0l7/22-create-a-team-page in To Do?
[14:33] <ahoneybun> sweet ovidiu-florin
[14:33] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: Create a Team page ++ AH]
[14:34] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: pictures of the people?
[14:34] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[14:34] <ahoneybun> Riddell: valorie ovidiu-florin have any good profile pictures for the team page?
[14:45] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: ahoneybun think our facebook page has a group photo of us @ akademy last year
[14:45] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/the-kubuntu-team/
[14:47] <ahoneybun> sgclark: I don't see a fb page
[14:47] <ahoneybun> just one made from wikipedia
[14:47] <soee> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/ i would rmeove this blue background here and wont make it as a quote
[14:47] <soee> i would use headers and some horizontal lines to separate items and give them more space
[14:49] <sgclark> oh you want individual pics O.o but then I cannot hide in the back!
[14:49] <ahoneybun> XD
[14:49] <ahoneybun> well thats the only good pic I have
[14:55] <soee> ovidiu-florin: try changing: h1.title {font-size: 30px;}
[14:55] <soee> so the page title text will be smaller
[14:55] <soee> atm it it to invasive
[14:57] <soee> ovidiu-florin: what about header image on frontpage ?
[15:00] <soee> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/ images should not be placed inside h2 tags 
[15:02] <ovidiu-florin> soee: https://trello.com/c/kFZRWNK6/7-update-kubuntu-feature-page
[15:02] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: To Do :: update Kubuntu Feature Page ++ OB, AH]
[15:05] <soee> ovidiu-florin: on home page i would suggets doing something similiar with header image: http://totaltheme.wpengine.com/base/home/homepage-3/
[15:05] <soee> so plasma wallpaer as a backround on it some nice smaller pic (kubuntu logo, or plasma5) and some short text -  slogan
[15:06] <xennex81> reporting a bug is pretty daunting if you have to download a 60 meg debugging symbols file!
[15:06] <ovidiu-florin> soee: please write these down
[15:07] <ovidiu-florin> It takes lokger to do them
[15:07] <soee> xennex81: yes but the bug report is more complete
[15:07] <ovidiu-florin> soee:  make a trello card for them
[15:07] <soee> and devs might easier locate the,
[15:08] <ovidiu-florin> 30px for h1 is far too small
[15:09] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can you give me the 2 greys that the Breeze theme uses? (titlebar and widgets, dark and light) in hex?
[15:10] <xennex81> It also keeps saying that I am to install a new version of Kubuntu when I have already done that upgrade ;-). Because the installer failed, but it was completed anyway. So not sure how to fix that, how to get rid of that notification. I'll ask in Ubuntu+1 though. Thanks for listening anyway. You're good people. ;-D.
[15:12] <soee> mparillo: worth putting on social media http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/04/03/krunner-the-birth-of-a-cyborg/
[15:14] <xennex81> Never mind, this is too much of a hassle
[15:14] <xennex81> I also have to create an account, etc. etc.
[15:15] <xennex81> Took me 10 minutes already to get the required packages.
[15:15] <xennex81> And install them, because it didn't install all of them at once ;-).
[15:15] <xennex81> Anyway, cya.
[15:18] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: hex?
[15:18] <ovidiu-florin> #ffffff is white
[15:19] <ovidiu-florin> #000000 is black
[15:19] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ^
[15:19] <ahoneybun> oh that
[15:19] <ahoneybun> sure let me see
[15:20] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: f7f7e4 is what the panel is
[15:21] <ahoneybun> 475057 for the titlebar of firefox
[15:21] <ahoneybun> btw I'm using the normal light theme
[15:23] <ahoneybun> light theme: panel f7f7e4 titlebar 47505; dark theme: panel 3e3e3e titlebar 47505 ovidiu-florin 
[15:24] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: thank you
[15:24] <ovidiu-florin> will test them in a moment
[15:25] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: np
[15:25] <ahoneybun> soee: that article would be great for the newsletter
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> what article?
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> what newsletter?
[15:27] <ahoneybun> ubuntu weekly newsletter
[15:27] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: 6
[15:27] <ahoneybun> ^
[15:27] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: [11:12] <soee> mparillo: worth putting on social media http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/04/03/krunner-the-birth-of-a-cyborg/
[15:31] <ovidiu-florin> nice
[15:31] <ahoneybun> I see you posted it on Plus lol
[15:35] <ovidiu-florin> I liked it
[15:54] <mparillo> soee: ahoneybun: ovidiu-florin I will look at sharing. ovidiu-florin: It is on G+?
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> mparillo: the article?
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> the one about KRunner?
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> I just shared it
[15:56] <mparillo> ovidiu-florin: This (https://plus.google.com/105126786256705328374/posts/P4WwRh5TdMm) was you?
[15:56] <ovidiu-florin> mparillo: no
[17:54] <ovidiu-florin> Quintasan: ping
[19:05] <ari-tczew> debfx, sgclark: could you help in getting Ubuntu delta applied in Debian from package oxygen-gtk3? Referring to yofel's answer to my question, this change should be forwardable. I've filled a bug on BTS, but no idea how to motivate the maintainer. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=781376
[19:07] <sgclark> ari-tczew: afraid my success rate with motivating debian maintainers has been 0 :(
[19:08] <ari-tczew> sgclark: don't give up, otherwise you won't win :)
[19:08] <sgclark> lol
[19:11] <yofel> hm, I could ask, but I doubt there will be much motivation until jessie is out (which supposedly should happen end of the month)
[19:20] <ari-tczew> yofel: no hurry, but would be nice to get that change applied in Debian, could be done in May, as well :)
[19:21] <ari-tczew> btw, great if Debian will be finally released end of the month, vivid+1 will start parallel with open unstable
[19:27] <shadeslayer> jussi: happy birthday!
[19:27] <shadeslayer> kubotu: order birthday package for jussi
[19:27]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[19:27]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to jussi and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[19:27] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday jussi, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[19:27] <kubotu> Happy Birthday jussi :D
[19:27] <kubotu> To your health!
[19:28] <shadeslayer> mmm beer
[19:53] <frecel> ahoneybun: So I was thinking about checking the docs for spelling errors last night.
[19:53] <frecel> ahoneybun: how come there isn't a script that just runs through the docs with a spellcheck?
[20:12] <ahoneybun> that was not a smooth update
[20:13] <ahoneybun> system is unresponive after a period of time
[20:14] <soee_> ?
[20:14] <ahoneybun> yea I don't know what happened with the newest updates
[20:16] <soee_> ahoneybun: works fine for me
[20:17] <ahoneybun> here is my /var/log/apt/term.log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10739741/
[20:17] <ahoneybun> I have rebooted 2 times and now it seems to be working
[20:18] <soee_> oO
[20:20] <ahoneybun> panel is not working
[20:20] <ahoneybun> can't start krunner
[20:20] <soee_> does not resond ?
[20:20] <soee_> also apps ?
[20:20] <ahoneybun> soon I will not be able to type
[20:20] <ahoneybun> I can't launch anything
[20:20] <ahoneybun> I have to use alt tab to switch apps
[20:20] <soee_> ahoneybun: had the same after i played a bit with sddm and nvidia-prime last day
[20:21] <ahoneybun> clicking does nothing
[20:21] <ahoneybun> I have not
[20:21] <ahoneybun> though that was a update to sddm 
[20:21] <soee_> well for me after few seconds desktop completely frezzed
[20:21] <ahoneybun> it is still on intel
[20:21] <sgclark> ahoneybun: try to remove the systray and add back (in widgets) I had a similiar issue where something bugged out.
[20:21] <ahoneybun> soon I will ave to reinstall
[20:21] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: how will I add it back if I can't right click on the desktop
[20:21] <sgclark> I thought it was my use of ppas that I forgot to disable after testing
[20:22] <ahoneybun> sgclark: ^
[20:22] <soee_> ahoneybun: try what sgclark suggests, for me probem wwas with some file in .config folder
[20:22] <sgclark> well if it is plasmashell that is crashing (was for me) plasmashell & worked
[20:23] <sgclark> for me notifications was busted
[20:23] <soee_> ahoneybun: i removed all and than added tham few after few
[20:23] <sgclark> but removing and adding back made everything happy
[20:23] <soee_> *added from backup
[20:23] <AndChat79476> It froze completely
[20:23] <AndChat79476> I could just move the mouse
[20:23] <AndChat79476> Its ahoneybun btw
[20:24] <soee_> AndChat79476: yeah same was here
[20:24] <soee_> the problem was one of the ./config/plasma* files
[20:24] <AndChat79476> Guess I have to reinstall 
[20:24] <soee_> AndChat79476: no, backup ~/.config 
[20:24] <soee_> AndChat79476: and remove inside all files that starts with 'plasma'
[20:26] <soee_> AndChat79476: switch tty, remove those files and trystarting x, or reboot first
[20:27] <AndChat79476> Backup, remove, reboot soee_ ?
[20:29] <soee_> AndChat79476: try
[20:29] <AndChat79476> K
[20:34] <AndChat79476> Trying it out soee_ I'll let you know if it fixed it
[20:35] <soee_> well its not a fix just a workaroud :)
[20:35] <AndChat79476> Still
[20:35] <soee_> to get fix we would have to locate that single file that had something broken
[20:36] <AndChat79476> Nope
[20:37] <soee_> ?
[20:37] <AndChat79476> Panel and krunner are not working
[20:37] <soee_> AndChat79476: than second test - remove other files in .config
[20:37] <AndChat79476> As in?
[20:41] <AndChat79476> soee_: ^
[20:47] <soee_> if you have them backedup, yeah
[20:50] <AndChat79476> Now I'm stuck at the loading bar
[20:51] <soee_> oO
[20:51] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: are you around?
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: take a look at http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/ I made it full width, so I can have alternate colors for each section, adding those now
[20:53] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: ok
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: what's your opinion about aranging the text to align to the width like on the other pages?
[20:55] <soee_> well yes, they should be inside content width area
[20:55] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: also no need separate colors for each imo, you might want to add some bg-color every second setion
[20:56] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: check https://www.apple.com/pl/osx/design/
[20:56] <soee_> simple yet nice
[20:57] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: that's what I said
[20:57] <AndChat79476> soee_: got back in after a reboot 
[20:58] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: and look what space is above and under images, we also need make it something similiar :)
[20:58] <soee_> ten whole page will be much readable
[20:58] <soee_> *then
[20:58] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: also images needs somelightbox plugin
[21:12] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: make the first one white bg, than darker, white, darker
[21:12] <valorie> hmmmm, did updates and rebooted today with no problems; actually the last three days
[21:12] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: first one white is important
[21:12] <AndChat79476> I have big problems 
[21:13] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: the white is wrong
[21:13] <AndChat79476> Might uninstall nivida-prime
[21:16] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: i would make the gray bg very light
[21:16] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: can I make a selector that applies to .feature_tour_section:nth-of-type(even) and the h2 in it? so I don't make 2 selectors?
[21:16] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: there
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> now using KDE colors
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> Breeze colors
[21:17] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: .feature_tour_section:nth-of-type(even) { h2 {..} } 
[21:17] <soee_> but i woudl add some class and use it
[21:17] <soee_> so in the future you can chage header type withuot modyfing css
[21:18] <soee_> so to headers i woudl add class like: .section-title {}
[21:18] <ovidiu-florin> If I'll need that, in the future I'll add it
[21:18] <soee_> than .feature_tour_section:nth-of-type(even) { .section-title {..} }
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: how can I make the image anchor as big as the image?
[21:19] <soee_> ?
[21:19] <AndChat79476> I'm just going to damn reinstall
[21:22] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: add more top and bottom padding to sections
[21:22] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: how can I make the image anchor as big as the image?
[21:23] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: add to anchor style: display: block;
[21:23] <soee_> by defauly it is inline element
[21:24] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: doesn't work
[21:24] <ovidiu-florin> look at the telepathy screenshot
[21:25] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: works, it covers whole image
[21:25] <ovidiu-florin> it's bigger than the image
[21:25] <soee_> and image has margins defined so anchor goes arund it all
[21:25] <ovidiu-florin> muuuuuuuch biger
[21:26] <soee_> remove margins frome image
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> ah
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> yea
[21:27] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: center section titles and texts imo
[21:33] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: imo remove paddings from each section, this makes render them pretty bad on smaller screens and do not align with whole layout
[21:33] <soee_> you should put each section content into <div class="container">  ... </div>
[21:33] <soee_> well to be more precise
[21:34] <soee_> <div class="container"> <div class="row-fluid">  <div class="span12"> HERE SECTION CONTENT </div> </div> </div>
[21:34] <soee_> this way it wil have the same width as layout
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> will do tomorrow
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> bed time now
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[22:03] <soee_> hihi nice comment http://news.softpedia.com/news/See-What-s-New-in-Ubuntu-15-04-Vivid-Vervet-477395.shtml
[22:22] <valorie> soee_: nice find!