[12:00] <pboldin> hi there. I made an upload attempt to the https://launchpad.net/~pboldin/+archive/ubuntu/nm using the provided command and a `changes' file from updated package but still got no email confirmation
[12:01] <pboldin> can it be due to the different emails (in change log and signature) and email of the account?
[13:02] <wgrant> pboldin: 2015-04-03 23:45:12 INFO    Failed to parse changes file '/srv/launchpad.net/ppa-queue/incoming/upload-ftp-20150403-234423-070277/~pboldin/nm/network-manager-applet_0.9.8.8-0ubuntu4.3~fixed_source.changes': Signing key E894659ED041390502D7D9518516F309DB5965F9 not registered in launchpad.
[13:02] <wgrant> I see that the key is registered now, but was it before?
[13:02] <pboldin> wgrant: oh, i just registered it. can you please remove this submission
[13:02] <wgrant> pboldin: It's been rejected. You just need to upload it again.
[13:03] <wgrant> (you may need to use dput -f to override the local "already uploaded" check)
[13:03] <pboldin> wgrant: thanks!
[13:31] <pboldin> wgrant: now i'm getting 'signing key fingerprint does not exist' errors
[13:31] <wgrant> pboldin: From where?
[13:31] <pboldin> wgrant: from sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pboldin/nm
[13:31] <wgrant> pboldin: It can take up to half an hour after the first upload for the key to be generated.
[13:32] <pboldin> wgrant: oh, okay. so i just have to wait
[13:32] <wgrant> pboldin: Yeah, just for your first PPA.
[19:48] <CarlFK> I am trying to package https://github.com/timvideos/gst-switch  so I can put a version in my PPA.  I am trying to follow https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/first.en.html
[19:49] <CarlFK> but I am stuck on $ wget http://example.org/gentoo-0.9.12.tar.gz  cuz there is no tarbal.   I could make one, but that seems odd.
[19:51] <mapreri> CarlFK: it's normal business. when upstream does not release tarballs we just create one (just be sure to use --exclude-vcs to remove any git-related file)
[19:51] <mapreri> some people use `git archive`, but I've never gone down that route
[19:52] <CarlFK> mapreri: k.  git archive... hmm.. I may as well look into that.  thanks
[19:52] <mapreri> CarlFK: also note that github create a .zip and a .tar.gz for every tag: https://github.com/timvideos/gst-switch/releases (but they might be too old to be considered)
[19:55] <CarlFK> mapreri: neat.  this thing doesn't work yet, so I doubt there are any of those
[19:56] <mapreri> CarlFK: there is one, but give that it's in quickly development you really want to package from git. just create a tarball. I suggest you to use a versioning like 0.0.0+20150404.$commitid, though that might be too verbose for your needs and you can strip the $commitid part
[19:57] <CarlFK> for now I am just trying to get something on my PPA so that I have something to update when it is working well enough to say "try it, I have it on my PPA"
[19:58] <CarlFK> right now "try it, it's on github and really, the install is pretty easy, just read the README.  I think.  let me know if you have problems."    and pretty much everyone has problems cuz we is sloppy
[20:04] <CarlFK> mapreri: so I need both the source files in the dir and the tarball?  (I was expecting dh_something to make the tar for me
[20:05] <mapreri> dh controls the build process, not the tarball creation.
[20:06] <mapreri> CarlFK: and yes, you need a tarball, "the source files in the dir" is just the tarball + the debian directory
[20:07] <CarlFK> hmm.. this looks like it wants all the files:
[20:07] <CarlFK> $ wget http://example.org/gentoo-0.9.12.tar.gz
[20:07] <CarlFK> $ tar -xvzf gentoo-0.9.12.tar.gz
[20:08] <CarlFK> from https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/first.en.html 2.8. Initial non-native Debian package
[20:08] <mapreri> that's what I said
[20:08] <mapreri> (maybe not that clear, I meant '"the source files in the dir" is just the [unpacked] tarball + the debian directory')
[20:09] <CarlFK> ah, unpacked.
[20:09] <mapreri> :)
[20:13] <mapreri> CarlFK: and then maybe you should also take a look at git-buildpackage https://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithGit#Upstream_import_methods (but then, personally I prefer to work importing tarballs in a debian-specific repository, i'm not confortable in cloning upstream's repo and adding a debian branch, but someone do that...) ← this is only a tool, you definitely want to follow what you are following before starting learning this tool, but then i
[20:13] <mapreri> t may become your main weapon.
[20:15] <CarlFK> neat.  and thanks for the "definitely want to follow" advice.  I always wonder where I should be starting
[20:17] <mapreri> CarlFK: from my POV it's pointless learning to use a wrapper of a wrapper of a wrapper of a wrapper, when you know nothing of what lays in the bottom
[20:24] <CarlFK> mostly agree.  except I don't want to know how CPUs work ;)
[20:25] <CarlFK> relocating.  bb in 20 min.  thanks for the help so far.