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chokilubuntu is shit. tryin to set xterm 256 color support. why cant simple things work out of the box??? pain as HELL!00:23
choki-.-00:23
chokibtw where is philw?00:23
wxl!language | choki00:23
ubottuchoki: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList00:23
chokiyeah00:24
chokistupid, i go to arch00:29
chokijust pain to set up00:29
chokihttps://push.cx/2008/256-color-xterms-in-ubuntu won't help at all00:29
chokibye00:29
* crepple is listening reading choki and then searching https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/LXTerminal/Customising00:30
chokicrepple: the wors wiki article i found before, doesnt help at all00:31
crepplechoki The lxde channel is a bit form ant at this time of night but they're helpful in the (European) morning00:35
creppleI meant dormant00:35
chokicrepple: xterm is just sh... u know the sh.... word00:36
wxlchoki: so use your terminal of choice, hm?00:36
chokihow can simple things to setup beeing so hard??00:36
crepplechoki I know what you mean. I'm just getting used to lxde - I'm normally an xfce man00:36
chokicrepple: no it is not about simple things like gui or deskto environments. setting 256 colors in xterm u need to study 10 years before u get it work00:37
chokiwork, which should be done by canoncial or lubuntu dev team00:38
crepplechoki I think I read that lubuntu is unofficial - gets no support from canonical?00:38
wxlcrepple: not true anymore00:38
wxlchoki: you should be complaining at debian, it would seem.00:39
crepplewxl OK I'm out of date. I'll update my memory :)00:39
chokii would like to tell with philw now00:39
chokiplease00:39
wxlcrepple: several years out of date, frankly00:39
chokiwhere is he gone?00:39
wxlchoki: go msg him00:39
chokii remember him00:39
chokihe is not online anymore :(00:40
chokidoes he stilll fine, still alive?00:40
wxlum, he's online, for sure.00:40
chokino00:40
chokii cant see him here00:40
chokiphilw00:40
wxlhe's not in this channel00:40
wxlbut he is on the irc network00:40
chokiwhy00:40
chokihe was always in here00:40
wxllike i said, msg him and ask him00:40
crepplewxl though to be honest - the Debian channels peeps are so knowledgeable. ~They really know their OS00:41
wxlthis is not #phillw00:41
chokioh00:41
wxlcrepple: yep, and they're upstream for ubuntu. so any problems with xterm generally start there.00:41
chokiok i will rant there now...00:42
wxlcan't wait00:42
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plujonIs there some way to script a desktop session?  I would like to do something like: open firefox, wait a second, open new tab, wait a second, open another tab so that I can compare screencasts of different levels of quality using the exact same actions and timing.18:43
ianorlinplujon: you might want to look into xdotool which is a way to automate things with x18:45
plujonianorlin: Cool; thanks; I'll take a look.18:47
asdHey guys, is it true that in Lubuntu  I can't run cron jobs at reboot?18:57
plujonasd: "cron jobs at reboot"?18:58
plujonasd: A cron job by definition does not take place at a specific _event_.  It takes place at a specific _time_.18:59
asdyea running jobs at reboot18:59
Unit193"is it true" meaning someone told you or you can't figure it out?18:59
Unit193plujon: Well, there is @reboot :P18:59
asdyes @reboot18:59
asdUnit193, I read it on a site19:00
plujonI've never heard of that.  In a crontab?  Interesting.19:00
asdyea in crontab19:00
Unit193plujon: Yep, generally yes things are time based, but @reboot is a time right? ;)19:00
asdbut even simple things like: @reboot ls, cant work for me19:00
Unit193@yearly|@annually, @monthly, @weekly, @daily|@midnight, @hourly  are all just aliases.19:02
plujonasd: @reboot sleep 30 && ls # maybe?19:04
asdplujon, I'm going to try it now19:04
Unit193asd: Where are you expecting the output?19:05
asdin terminal-emulator19:05
Unit193No...  That's not how crontab works...  Try @reboot ls > ~/myfiles19:06
asdI could run @reebot  xterm -hold -e ls19:07
asdprobably19:07
Unit193DISPLAY=:019:23
plujonI'd like to make a recording of my desktop for publishing on the web.  I am trying to use recordmydesktop and avconv to convert the result to webm format, but the result is pretty poor.  Is there a guide for doing this?21:08
plujonBy "pretty poor", I mean, "looks fuzzy".  And I notice that the size of the webm result is practically unrelated to the size of the .ogv produced by recordmydesktop (I produced about a dozen to compare different frame rates and such).21:09
Unit193!screencast | This is the best I can see21:09
ubottuThis is the best I can see: Some programs to capture your screen are Kazam, Vokoscreen & Simple Screen Recorder. Also ffmpeg/libav with x11grab option on the command line. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.21:09
plujonUnit193: Thanks, that page looks useful.21:11
Unit193Lets hope.21:14
plujonInterestingly, webm isn't mentioned in the above pages.21:15
plujonI am using webm because I noticed my android device doesn't play .ogv files.21:15
Unit193And, webm is pretty cool, just like opus.21:18
plujon"For size we recommend 1024x768/1280x720 at 24fps."21:21
plujonNo recommendation for quality.21:22
plujonWell, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts has some useful information, but it also lacks the information I most want: namely, exactly what app and settings to use to publish a screencast so that it is available to most people, not too big, and clear enough to view.21:23
Pyhscripthello21:33
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Pyhscripti have 448 mb of ram will i be able to run lubuntu?21:34
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MajBpyhscript:  That should be enough to run Lubuntu.  It is more than the minimum required but the only way to be sure because hardware makes a difference is to try it and see.22:08
PyhscriptMajB i know it was minimun for older version but afaik it's less than mimimum for new version22:10
Unit193Browsers aren't going to work well, at all.22:11
PyhscriptUnit193, with my specs?22:12
Unit193448M ram?  Unless you're using w3m.22:12
Pyhscriptmy integrated graphic card takes 64 mb22:13
Pyhscriptbut ok i understand22:13
PyhscriptUnit193, suggestions?22:13
Unit193Pyhscript: Well, any system you use isn't going to like browsers.  You can try some more lightweight ones, but that's just plain not a lot of ram.  Xombrero, qupzilla, etc to name a few.22:14
PyhscriptUnit193, are browsers for lubuntu more advanced? here on xp(i know i am moving away from it) i can run chrome,mozilla or any browser i want without problems22:16
MajBI am running Lubuntu 14.04.2 on an old Dell Inspiron 1000 with about amount of RAM.  I am using Firefox with no problems.22:17
MajBwith about the same amount of RAM22:19
* Unit193 shrugs.22:20
Unit193If it works, it works I suppose.  Least I've run it on was 1G, which was..22:20
Pyhscriptand yea one more question: i use usb 3g dongle t connect is that good supported on lubuntu?22:20
Pyhscript*to22:21
MajBBoot from a CD and try all of the stuff out.  Take it for a test drive.22:21
Unit193!info modemmanager22:21
Unit193Exactly, live is very helpful.22:21
ubottumodemmanager (source: modemmanager): D-Bus service for managing modems. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (utopic), package size 497 kB, installed size 2508 kB22:21
PyhscriptMajB i will use liveusb as i dont have burner22:22
MajBSame same.22:23
Pyhscriptoh modemanager is used to connect? is it easy to use? or i need to configure stuff ,make conf files etc22:23
Pyhscriptswitch modes22:23
MajBI recently had a problem with a flash drive that I created with unetbootin.  Apparently there is a bug.22:23
Pyhscript!info NetworkManager22:24
ubottuPackage NetworkManager does not exist in utopic22:24
Pyhscriptah ok i heard that's used in ubuntu22:24
Pyhscriptor arch22:24
Unit193!info network-manager22:24
ubottunetwork-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu28 (utopic), package size 536 kB, installed size 2208 kB (Only available for linux-any)22:24
Pyhscriptoh22:24
Pyhscriptok sorry i am noob but do they come when i download lubuntu or i must download it from xp and then get it from lubuntu?22:26
Pyhscriptok let me clarify: to get those packages do i need internet access?22:26
MajBHave you downloaded the Lubuntu iso22:27
Unit193They are installed by default.  I've never used 3G.22:27
Pyhscriptah ok22:28
PyhscriptMajB not yet22:31
MajBThat will be your first step.22:37
MajBSince you have what appears to be an old machine, you will probably want to down load the 32 bit i386iso to try it first.22:38
PyhscriptMajB so not desktop edition?22:39
Pyhscripti cant find i38622:40
MajBYes that is the desktop edition22:40
Pyhscriptah good22:40
MajBIf you notice there are many.  Some are 32 bit and some are 64 bit.22:40
Pyhscriptno there are no many just standard pc 32 bit,standard pc 64 bit,powerpc and alternative version for < 400 mb of ram22:42
PyhscriptMajB22:42
Pyhscripti need standard pc 32 bit right?22:43
Pyhscripthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu22:43
Pyhscripthere right?22:43
MajBGo here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/22:45
MajBDownload the first one.  That is the 32 bit version.22:46
PyhscriptMajB ok i am downloading22:48
Pyhscriptit will take a while22:49
Pyhscript25 minutes22:49
PyhscriptMajB i might fall a sleep will you be here tommorow?22:49
MajBAfter you download the iso, you should check the md5sum (hash).  If you don't know how to do that check here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM22:50
Pyhscriptdont worry i know22:50
Pyhscripti have python script to do it(you see Py in my name :) )22:50
Pyhscripts/(//22:51
MajBI will be on tomorrow but we are traveling from Texas to Arizona22:51
Pyhscriptoh22:51
MajBIt may be late.22:52
Pyhscriptwell it's late here now here it's  almost 1:==22:54
Pyhscript1:00 *22:54
MajBSo there is a 7 hour time difference.  You are in Europe somewhere.22:57
Pyhscriptyup22:58
Pyhscriptnot saying where thought :D22:58
PyhscriptMajB , 7 hours more or less?22:58
MajBOK.  I will look for you tomorrow if you have any more questions, but I am sure anyone on this channel will be able and more than willing to assist.22:59
Pyhscriptok np22:59
Pyhscriptthanks22:59
PyhscriptMajB basically what i need to do when its downloaded is to get iso to usb with universal usb installer or usb writer or something i'll find by simple search right?23:02
MajBThat is correct23:02
Pyhscriptgood23:03
Pyhscriptthen make it in bios to boot it of usb and then choose to run in live mode and then everything i need to do is to connect it?23:04
MajBYou got it.  It is really simple.23:04
Pyhscriptoh good23:05
Pyhscriptuh oh iso downloaded23:26
Pyhscriptok i go check md5sum23:26

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