[00:23] <choki> lubuntu is shit. tryin to set xterm 256 color support. why cant simple things work out of the box??? pain as HELL!
[00:23] <choki> -.-
[00:23] <choki> btw where is philw?
[00:23] <wxl> !language | choki
[00:24] <choki> yeah
[00:29] <choki> stupid, i go to arch
[00:29] <choki> just pain to set up
[00:29] <choki> https://push.cx/2008/256-color-xterms-in-ubuntu won't help at all
[00:29] <choki> bye
[00:30]  * crepple is listening reading choki and then searching https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/LXTerminal/Customising
[00:31] <choki> crepple: the wors wiki article i found before, doesnt help at all
[00:35] <crepple> choki The lxde channel is a bit form ant at this time of night but they're helpful in the (European) morning
[00:35] <crepple> I meant dormant
[00:36] <choki> crepple: xterm is just sh... u know the sh.... word
[00:36] <wxl> choki: so use your terminal of choice, hm?
[00:36] <choki> how can simple things to setup beeing so hard??
[00:36] <crepple> choki I know what you mean. I'm just getting used to lxde - I'm normally an xfce man
[00:37] <choki> crepple: no it is not about simple things like gui or deskto environments. setting 256 colors in xterm u need to study 10 years before u get it work
[00:38] <choki> work, which should be done by canoncial or lubuntu dev team
[00:38] <crepple> choki I think I read that lubuntu is unofficial - gets no support from canonical?
[00:38] <wxl> crepple: not true anymore
[00:39] <wxl> choki: you should be complaining at debian, it would seem.
[00:39] <crepple> wxl OK I'm out of date. I'll update my memory :)
[00:39] <choki> i would like to tell with philw now
[00:39] <choki> please
[00:39] <wxl> crepple: several years out of date, frankly
[00:39] <choki> where is he gone?
[00:39] <wxl> choki: go msg him
[00:39] <choki> i remember him
[00:40] <choki> he is not online anymore :(
[00:40] <choki> does he stilll fine, still alive?
[00:40] <wxl> um, he's online, for sure.
[00:40] <choki> no
[00:40] <choki> i cant see him here
[00:40] <choki> philw
[00:40] <wxl> he's not in this channel
[00:40] <wxl> but he is on the irc network
[00:40] <choki> why
[00:40] <choki> he was always in here
[00:40] <wxl> like i said, msg him and ask him
[00:41] <crepple> wxl though to be honest - the Debian channels peeps are so knowledgeable. ~They really know their OS
[00:41] <wxl> this is not #phillw
[00:41] <choki> oh
[00:41] <wxl> crepple: yep, and they're upstream for ubuntu. so any problems with xterm generally start there.
[00:42] <choki> ok i will rant there now...
[00:42] <wxl> can't wait
[18:43] <plujon> Is there some way to script a desktop session?  I would like to do something like: open firefox, wait a second, open new tab, wait a second, open another tab so that I can compare screencasts of different levels of quality using the exact same actions and timing.
[18:45] <ianorlin> plujon: you might want to look into xdotool which is a way to automate things with x
[18:47] <plujon> ianorlin: Cool; thanks; I'll take a look.
[18:57] <asd> Hey guys, is it true that in Lubuntu  I can't run cron jobs at reboot?
[18:58] <plujon> asd: "cron jobs at reboot"?
[18:59] <plujon> asd: A cron job by definition does not take place at a specific _event_.  It takes place at a specific _time_.
[18:59] <asd> yea running jobs at reboot
[18:59] <Unit193> "is it true" meaning someone told you or you can't figure it out?
[18:59] <Unit193> plujon: Well, there is @reboot :P
[18:59] <asd> yes @reboot
[19:00] <asd> Unit193, I read it on a site
[19:00] <plujon> I've never heard of that.  In a crontab?  Interesting.
[19:00] <asd> yea in crontab
[19:00] <Unit193> plujon: Yep, generally yes things are time based, but @reboot is a time right? ;)
[19:00] <asd> but even simple things like: @reboot ls, cant work for me
[19:02] <Unit193> @yearly|@annually, @monthly, @weekly, @daily|@midnight, @hourly  are all just aliases.
[19:04] <plujon> asd: @reboot sleep 30 && ls # maybe?
[19:04] <asd> plujon, I'm going to try it now
[19:05] <Unit193> asd: Where are you expecting the output?
[19:05] <asd> in terminal-emulator
[19:06] <Unit193> No...  That's not how crontab works...  Try @reboot ls > ~/myfiles
[19:07] <asd> I could run @reebot  xterm -hold -e ls
[19:07] <asd> probably
[19:23] <Unit193> DISPLAY=:0
[21:08] <plujon> I'd like to make a recording of my desktop for publishing on the web.  I am trying to use recordmydesktop and avconv to convert the result to webm format, but the result is pretty poor.  Is there a guide for doing this?
[21:09] <plujon> By "pretty poor", I mean, "looks fuzzy".  And I notice that the size of the webm result is practically unrelated to the size of the .ogv produced by recordmydesktop (I produced about a dozen to compare different frame rates and such).
[21:09] <Unit193> !screencast | This is the best I can see
[21:11] <plujon> Unit193: Thanks, that page looks useful.
[21:14] <Unit193> Lets hope.
[21:15] <plujon> Interestingly, webm isn't mentioned in the above pages.
[21:15] <plujon> I am using webm because I noticed my android device doesn't play .ogv files.
[21:18] <Unit193> And, webm is pretty cool, just like opus.
[21:21] <plujon> "For size we recommend 1024x768/1280x720 at 24fps."
[21:22] <plujon> No recommendation for quality.
[21:23] <plujon> Well, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts has some useful information, but it also lacks the information I most want: namely, exactly what app and settings to use to publish a screencast so that it is available to most people, not too big, and clear enough to view.
[21:33] <Pyhscript> hello
[21:34] <Pyhscript> i have 448 mb of ram will i be able to run lubuntu?
[22:08] <MajB> pyhscript:  That should be enough to run Lubuntu.  It is more than the minimum required but the only way to be sure because hardware makes a difference is to try it and see.
[22:10] <Pyhscript> MajB i know it was minimun for older version but afaik it's less than mimimum for new version
[22:11] <Unit193> Browsers aren't going to work well, at all.
[22:12] <Pyhscript> Unit193, with my specs?
[22:12] <Unit193> 448M ram?  Unless you're using w3m.
[22:13] <Pyhscript> my integrated graphic card takes 64 mb
[22:13] <Pyhscript> but ok i understand
[22:13] <Pyhscript> Unit193, suggestions?
[22:14] <Unit193> Pyhscript: Well, any system you use isn't going to like browsers.  You can try some more lightweight ones, but that's just plain not a lot of ram.  Xombrero, qupzilla, etc to name a few.
[22:16] <Pyhscript> Unit193, are browsers for lubuntu more advanced? here on xp(i know i am moving away from it) i can run chrome,mozilla or any browser i want without problems
[22:17] <MajB> I am running Lubuntu 14.04.2 on an old Dell Inspiron 1000 with about amount of RAM.  I am using Firefox with no problems.
[22:19] <MajB> with about the same amount of RAM
[22:20]  * Unit193 shrugs.
[22:20] <Unit193> If it works, it works I suppose.  Least I've run it on was 1G, which was..
[22:20] <Pyhscript> and yea one more question: i use usb 3g dongle t connect is that good supported on lubuntu?
[22:21] <Pyhscript> *to
[22:21] <MajB> Boot from a CD and try all of the stuff out.  Take it for a test drive.
[22:21] <Unit193> !info modemmanager
[22:21] <Unit193> Exactly, live is very helpful.
[22:22] <Pyhscript> MajB i will use liveusb as i dont have burner
[22:23] <MajB> Same same.
[22:23] <Pyhscript> oh modemanager is used to connect? is it easy to use? or i need to configure stuff ,make conf files etc
[22:23] <Pyhscript> switch modes
[22:23] <MajB> I recently had a problem with a flash drive that I created with unetbootin.  Apparently there is a bug.
[22:24] <Pyhscript> !info NetworkManager
[22:24] <Pyhscript> ah ok i heard that's used in ubuntu
[22:24] <Pyhscript> or arch
[22:24] <Unit193> !info network-manager
[22:24] <Pyhscript> oh
[22:26] <Pyhscript> ok sorry i am noob but do they come when i download lubuntu or i must download it from xp and then get it from lubuntu?
[22:26] <Pyhscript> ok let me clarify: to get those packages do i need internet access?
[22:27] <MajB> Have you downloaded the Lubuntu iso
[22:27] <Unit193> They are installed by default.  I've never used 3G.
[22:28] <Pyhscript> ah ok
[22:31] <Pyhscript> MajB not yet
[22:37] <MajB> That will be your first step.
[22:38] <MajB> Since you have what appears to be an old machine, you will probably want to down load the 32 bit i386iso to try it first.
[22:39] <Pyhscript> MajB so not desktop edition?
[22:40] <Pyhscript> i cant find i386
[22:40] <MajB> Yes that is the desktop edition
[22:40] <Pyhscript> ah good
[22:40] <MajB> If you notice there are many.  Some are 32 bit and some are 64 bit.
[22:42] <Pyhscript> no there are no many just standard pc 32 bit,standard pc 64 bit,powerpc and alternative version for < 400 mb of ram
[22:42] <Pyhscript> MajB
[22:43] <Pyhscript> i need standard pc 32 bit right?
[22:43] <Pyhscript> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[22:43] <Pyhscript> here right?
[22:45] <MajB> Go here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[22:46] <MajB> Download the first one.  That is the 32 bit version.
[22:48] <Pyhscript> MajB ok i am downloading
[22:49] <Pyhscript> it will take a while
[22:49] <Pyhscript> 25 minutes
[22:49] <Pyhscript> MajB i might fall a sleep will you be here tommorow?
[22:50] <MajB> After you download the iso, you should check the md5sum (hash).  If you don't know how to do that check here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[22:50] <Pyhscript> dont worry i know
[22:50] <Pyhscript> i have python script to do it(you see Py in my name :) )
[22:51] <Pyhscript> s/(//
[22:51] <MajB> I will be on tomorrow but we are traveling from Texas to Arizona
[22:51] <Pyhscript> oh
[22:52] <MajB> It may be late.
[22:54] <Pyhscript> well it's late here now here it's  almost 1:==
[22:54] <Pyhscript> 1:00 *
[22:57] <MajB> So there is a 7 hour time difference.  You are in Europe somewhere.
[22:58] <Pyhscript> yup
[22:58] <Pyhscript> not saying where thought :D
[22:58] <Pyhscript> MajB , 7 hours more or less?
[22:59] <MajB> OK.  I will look for you tomorrow if you have any more questions, but I am sure anyone on this channel will be able and more than willing to assist.
[22:59] <Pyhscript> ok np
[22:59] <Pyhscript> thanks
[23:02] <Pyhscript> MajB basically what i need to do when its downloaded is to get iso to usb with universal usb installer or usb writer or something i'll find by simple search right?
[23:02] <MajB> That is correct
[23:03] <Pyhscript> good
[23:04] <Pyhscript> then make it in bios to boot it of usb and then choose to run in live mode and then everything i need to do is to connect it?
[23:04] <MajB> You got it.  It is really simple.
[23:05] <Pyhscript> oh good
[23:26] <Pyhscript> uh oh iso downloaded
[23:26] <Pyhscript> ok i go check md5sum