| derekv | essentially my firewall build is pfsense but without the gui... it actually predates pfsense i beleive | 00:00 |
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| derekv | i'm sure i could with some effort solve any issues i have now and make it easier to administer ... but it makes more sense to put that effort elsewhere | 00:01 |
| derekv | but, it makes me sad | 00:01 |
| derekv | when i was thinking about this before, i realized one thing i do need to focus on is monitoring. when i set something up, I need to know how well its working (or not), so i can fix it right away (or decide it was stupid) | 00:15 |
| jrwren | yup | 00:16 |
| jrwren | that is what a good firewall distro SHOULD do for you. | 00:16 |
| jrwren | if they dno't, then they suck. | 00:16 |
| jrwren | there is really no excuse not to, its just I think most open source home users don't think about it | 00:16 |
| jrwren | so its not been an itch that has gotten much scratching. | 00:17 |
| jrwren | i like my smokepoing charts: http://delays.xmtp.net/smokeping.cgi?target=Local | 00:18 |
| derekv | oh man, this router came with a printed copy of the GPL on a leaflet, and instructions how i can order for a nominal fee a cd containing a copy of the gpl code used on the router | 00:25 |
| derekv | instead of just a link to where i could download it? | 00:25 |
| greg-g | 1) they need to provide a copy of the GPL is they distribute GPL licensed software 2) read the GPL, it gives that as an example of how to comply with providing source | 00:26 |
| greg-g | s/is they/if they/ | 00:26 |
| derekv | yea, i actually have read it before =] i just never have seen it taken literally in this way | 00:28 |
| greg-g | I think every router I've bought has done it that way :) | 00:28 |
| derekv | maybe i never noticed | 00:29 |
| greg-g | Also my NAS (well, minus the bit about address for a CD) | 00:29 |
| derekv | they should just fork on github, put a link | 00:29 |
| derekv | that is acceptable afaik | 00:29 |
| derekv | maybe rms would order the cd, but i doubt he'd buy the router in the first place | 00:29 |
| greg-g | no router vendor I've seen actually provides a git repo, just a tarball | 00:30 |
| derekv | ok maybe someone can catch me up, i studied this stuff pretty well but that was wifi a/b/g... and with a/b/g you just put it all on one SSID and everything magically works | 00:33 |
| derekv | whats this _2.4GHz and _5GHz crap? | 00:33 |
| derekv | lmgtfm: http://superuser.com/questions/362366/does-it-make-sense-to-keep-different-ssids-for-2-4ghz-and-5ghz-wireless-networks | 00:35 |
| jrwren | of course it makes sense. :) | 01:12 |
| jrwren | that way you can be sure you are using 5Ghz and not the poluted 2.4Ghz crap | 01:13 |
| greg-g | :) | 01:13 |
| jrwren | i never want to be on 2.4Ghz if i can help it, hence 2 SSIDs | 01:13 |
| derekv | i gather it has better range | 01:15 |
| derekv | and ideally, you device picks the right thing to use, but not all devices are ideally | 01:16 |
| derekv | or don't know how to ideally | 01:16 |
| derekv | (grammer abuse) | 01:16 |
| jrwren | yeah, I've not had good experience with any device picking the right thing, EVER | 01:24 |
| jrwren | so if you want to not think, and are OK when shit is slow, name 'em same SSID | 01:24 |
| jrwren | if you want power and control, 2 names! :) | 01:24 |
| jrwren | I named mine "newerbettterfaster2" and "newerbetterfaster5" and they replaced "whythisnowork" | 01:24 |
| jrwren | :) | 01:25 |
| jrwren | ssid names are fun. | 01:25 |
| derekv | yea i'm replacing this cheapo wireless n (2.4 only) i got about a year or so ago | 02:21 |
| derekv | and was suddenly getting really bad internet, which turned out to be the wap not the isp | 02:22 |
| derekv | and rebooting it "fixed it", but it was still quite slow | 02:22 |
| jrwren | ugh | 02:38 |
| jrwren | that is why i love wired :) | 02:38 |
| cmaloney | Evening | 02:45 |
| jrwren | hello cmaloney | 02:46 |
| cmaloney | Getting ready for bed. | 02:49 |
| derekv | jrwren: me too, which is why the problem was allowed to exist for so long | 02:57 |
| derekv | just got a new router though, ddwrt installed =] | 02:57 |
| derekv | here's a fun fact, i'm the first on my block to get a 5GHz wifi | 02:58 |
| derekv | according to my wifi app | 02:58 |
| derekv | 283Mbps @ 5ft | 03:07 |
| jrwren | that is what is so great about 5Ghz. | 03:41 |
| jrwren | it really reduces the noise. | 03:42 |
| derekv | i should have tested with iperf before putting on openwrt | 04:04 |
| derekv | 487Mbps with factory | 04:22 |
| tony-smlr | SMLR E148 NOW Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjU-jfObR3o Audio: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming | 11:36 |
| cmaloney | Afternoon | 16:17 |
| rick_h_ | afternoon | 16:18 |
| rick_h_ | ugh, porn spam on bookie.io | 16:22 |
| rick_h_ | go go gadget delete account after a lovely ec2 abuse report heh | 16:22 |
| cmaloney | Yay | 16:35 |
| cmaloney | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/914/detail/ | 16:43 |
| cmaloney | Reminder our meeting is tomorrow at 9pm | 16:43 |
| greg-g | derekv: 5ghz actually has less range than 2.4, especially through walls | 18:21 |
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