| captine | so.. i wish it was possible for Canonical to not use Microsoft product for the backoffice. looks like they use Navision for their finance application -- based on the job adds for AP managers.... Yip.. my daughter got me up and now I cannot sleep, so what can I say.... | 00:46 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | morning all | 04:23 |
| Symmetria | morning | 04:43 |
| pieter2627 | Hi all | 06:16 |
| Kilos | hi pieter2627 | 06:18 |
| Kilos | jy lekker vroeg | 06:26 |
| pieter2627 | nee, dis al laat :P | 06:27 |
| Kilos | haha die ander slaap nog dink ek | 06:27 |
| Kilos | o nee miskien op pad winkels toe al | 06:28 |
| pieter2627 | ja, kan wees | 06:28 |
| Kilos | skuus dat ek min smiles gebruik, dit meen ekstra soek wat om te tik | 06:29 |
| Kilos | smileys-emoticon goed | 06:29 |
| Kilos | :D | 06:29 |
| Kilos | daai ene die maklikste | 06:30 |
| pieter2627 | haha, reg. ek gebruik net as dit lyk of my boodskap dalk nors kan wees, of n grap misgelees gaan word | 06:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:31 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 you said something about fixing the glug link or site or something are you up here in the vaal with us? | 06:46 |
| Kilos | glug.za seems to have died , only froztyza and some of our guys still show there | 06:47 |
| pieter2627 | No, I only went through the links to find a loco/UG in Pretoria | 06:50 |
| Kilos | oh then welcome by us. pro and i and gremble and a few others are also in pta | 06:52 |
| Kilos | and mopkop | 06:52 |
| pieter2627 | oh, thanks | 06:53 |
| captine | morning | 07:48 |
| Kilos | hi captine | 08:00 |
| Kilos | sorry , was reading up on 5g | 08:00 |
| Kilos | and easter load shedding on the cards | 08:01 |
| pieter2627 | The jumbotron should only be visible on the home page, right? (inetpro mentioned something about it yesterday) | 08:12 |
| Kilos | lol i dont even know what that is | 08:13 |
| Kilos | youll have to wait for him or fly to come on | 08:13 |
| Kilos | oh maybe captine knows too | 08:14 |
| pieter2627 | The jumbotron is the african images at the top of pages - africanSite | 08:14 |
| Kilos | look at the za site and see whats there | 08:14 |
| Kilos | https://ubuntu-za.org/ | 08:15 |
| Kilos | we can follow that | 08:15 |
| pieter2627 | ok | 08:16 |
| Kilos | and use whatever from there that will be helpful | 08:16 |
| Kilos | oh superfly i forgot, i should have used your and pros words to me. there is no retirement date in your contract | 08:18 |
| Kilos | or no retirement clause | 08:19 |
| Kilos | oh that has no jumbotron thing? | 08:21 |
| pieter2627 | It has... sort of (just not the same) | 08:21 |
| Kilos | oh | 08:22 |
| Kilos | we also have to find a map of africa to add a link to i think. weve had peeps from other countries ask where are we | 08:23 |
| Kilos | and when we reply in south africa they ask what country is that in | 08:23 |
| Kilos | looks like geography isnt a common subject all over | 08:28 |
| pieter2627 | yea, common error of non-za peeps not to discern south from southern | 08:28 |
| Kilos | i dont know the legalities about using links to other sites | 08:29 |
| * pieter2627 hides in shame as he is sometimes included in that | 08:29 | |
| Kilos | hahaha | 08:29 |
| pieter2627 | using links to other sites?? | 08:30 |
| Kilos | let me find the one i had in mind | 08:31 |
| Kilos | had a nice mape of africa with country names even though one was mispelled | 08:32 |
| Kilos | i was thinking that map of africa button could point there | 08:32 |
| Kilos | something like http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/af.htm | 08:33 |
| Kilos | or http://www.mapsofworld.com/africa/ | 08:34 |
| pieter2627 | How about http://jqvmap.com/ | 08:36 |
| pieter2627 | or something similar | 08:36 |
| Kilos | i dont know , ill ask fly. i thought one that showed all the country names would be good but lets hear what he says | 08:37 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:38 |
| Kilos | hello inetpro | 08:39 |
| pieter2627 | Ok, we should just maybe look for a svg one to be able to edit as we want | 08:39 |
| Kilos | inetpro read and catch up | 08:39 |
| captine | sorry, been distracted | 08:40 |
| Kilos | np | 08:40 |
| captine | Kilos, my knowledge is not great. what might I know??? :) | 08:40 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: I think those images in the jumbotron should only be relevant on the home page, and the fly acknowledged it as a bug that he wants to sort out | 08:40 |
| Kilos | about the jumbotron thing | 08:41 |
| inetpro | the jumbotron on the ubuntu-za homepage is different | 08:41 |
| pieter2627 | Ok, am busy with the jumbotron so will too it same (to hide) as the ubuntu-za site | 08:41 |
| inetpro | ahh, so you have figured where the difference comes in? | 08:43 |
| pieter2627 | yea, jumbotron should be moved from base.tmpl to the index.rst (will now test) | 08:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: cool, nice to know another handyman around? | 08:45 |
| Kilos | yeah very lekker | 08:45 |
| Kilos | handymen | 08:46 |
| Kilos | if im slow blame tara | 08:46 |
| inetpro | captine: you have some learning to do :-) | 08:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: has she got herself a new PC? | 08:47 |
| Kilos | ya a nice one | 08:47 |
| Kilos | amd quad with 16g ram | 08:48 |
| inetpro | nice! | 08:48 |
| inetpro | and OS? | 08:48 |
| Kilos | 7 | 08:48 |
| Kilos | sigh | 08:48 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:48 |
| Kilos | old pc has ubuntu on | 08:49 |
| pieter2627 | oops, moving doesn't work so will use my initial approach to check if is home page | 08:49 |
| Kilos | but rugger time she use her cellphone to comment | 08:49 |
| inetpro | with 16GB RAM, tell her to install Virtualbox from www.virtualbox.org | 08:50 |
| inetpro | then she can at least install ubuntu on the sidelines | 08:50 |
| inetpro | her new machine should handle it with a smile | 08:50 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: no problemo, take your time | 08:52 |
| inetpro | am sure you'll figure it out eventually | 08:52 |
| pieter2627 | already have, then just wanted to do it same as za site | 08:53 |
| inetpro | ok | 08:53 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: push it to a branch asap so we can see what you did | 08:55 |
| pieter2627 | in 5min | 08:55 |
| Kilos | i also wanna seeee | 08:55 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: https://code.launchpad.net/~pieter2627/ubuntu-africa/jumbrotron-edits | 09:02 |
| pieter2627 | Hope it's ok as it's my first cont to any proj (might have to work on commit messages) | 09:02 |
| * inetpro downloading | 09:03 | |
| inetpro | pieter2627: it works | 09:07 |
| * inetpro created a blank new page join-us and it doesn't have the jumbotron | 09:07 | |
| Symmetria | aalston@home-server:~/bgp.process$ time ./process | 09:07 |
| Symmetria | Processed 541689 total prefixs | 09:07 |
| Symmetria | Total addresses found: 3752755175 | 09:07 |
| Symmetria | 3752755175 Total Networks [2830910208 transit] [921725362 peered] [119606 local] | 09:07 |
| Symmetria | my code works ;p | 09:07 |
| Symmetria | real 0m0.287s | 09:08 |
| Symmetria | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 09:08 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: intereresting if statement | 09:11 |
| inetpro | if rel_link(permalink, '/index.html') == "#": | 09:11 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: got it from base_helper.tmpl | 09:11 |
| pieter2627 | it what is uses to add the active class to navbar | 09:12 |
| inetpro | nice job! | 09:12 |
| Kilos | inetpro simplify the how to for me so i know how far i must got with bzr before i look at links | 09:13 |
| inetpro | uh, sorry? | 09:13 |
| Kilos | i done the whoami and login from Projects/ubuntu-africa | 09:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you do that once only man | 09:14 |
| Kilos | oh | 09:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: cd ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa && bzr branch lp:~pieter2627/ubuntu-africa/jumbrotron-edits | 09:15 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 09:15 |
| inetpro | then to the virtualenv activate thingy and run nikola build | 09:16 |
| inetpro | oh, obviously after cd jumbrotron-edits | 09:16 |
| Kilos | do we use that long command of moppies? | 09:17 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: so are the changes in theme.css and theme.js really necessary? | 09:18 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: they are for the image-credit at the bottom of the jumbotron | 09:19 |
| inetpro | ah | 09:19 |
| pieter2627 | Some change its layout | 09:19 |
| pieter2627 | other remove dup styles by using existing classes | 09:19 |
| Kilos | sjoe slim kind | 09:22 |
| pieter2627 | oh, the reason for the body padding has been commented | 09:23 |
| pieter2627 | Just made a last commit for some other spacing relating to the jumbotron | 09:24 |
| inetpro | cool, can you do three more things for me before submitting the branch for review | 09:25 |
| pieter2627 | sure ?? | 09:26 |
| inetpro | create two pages with 'nikola new_page' | 09:26 |
| inetpro | 1. Chat With Us | 09:26 |
| inetpro | 2. Join Us | 09:26 |
| inetpro | then edit conf.py and change the link "Get Ubuntu" to go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download | 09:27 |
| inetpro | down't worry about the content for now | 09:27 |
| inetpro | don't* | 09:27 |
| Symmetria | aalston@home-server:~/bgp.process$ ./process | 09:27 |
| Symmetria | Processed 541689 total prefixs | 09:27 |
| Symmetria | Total addresses found: 3752755175 [87.38% of possible space] | 09:27 |
| Symmetria | 3752755175 Total Networks [2830910208 transit] [921725362 peered] [119606 local] [32.56% peered+local] | 09:27 |
| Symmetria | YAY! Finally! | 09:28 |
| Symmetria | that code was a pain in the ass to write ;p | 09:28 |
| inetpro | well doen Symmetria | 09:28 |
| Symmetria | I hate having to work with unsigned longs and other shit ;p | 09:28 |
| inetpro | done as well | 09:28 |
| Symmetria | and optimizing code like that to run at a reasonable speed is a pain in the ass as well | 09:28 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: don't worry about the content for now, unless you want to spend time and do that as well | 09:29 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 why didnt you join us long ago | 09:31 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: commit msg? | 09:31 |
| inetpro | in fact the 'Chat With Us' should be the simplest of all | 09:31 |
| inetpro | just add the following: | 09:31 |
| inetpro | .. raw:: html | 09:31 |
| inetpro | blank line | 09:31 |
| inetpro | <iframe src="//webchat.freenode.net?randomnick=1&channels=%23ubuntu-africa&uio=MTE9MA4c" width="100%" height="400"></iframe> | 09:31 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: keep a simple commit message, eg: Added pages chat-with-us and join-us and fixed link | 09:33 |
| inetpro | I'm sure Kilos will be happiest of all when he can see the web based irc page | 09:35 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: done | 09:38 |
| Symmetria | http://pastebin.com/p0ECS2pL <=== man that code is hacky as crap :P but it works | 09:38 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: was busy with school :P | 09:38 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:39 |
| inetpro | nice! | 09:40 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: now please 'Propose for merging' | 09:40 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 how old are you if i may ask and what school taught you so much | 09:40 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that's personal :-) | 09:42 |
| Kilos | thats why i said if i may ask | 09:43 |
| Kilos | i know how old you are | 09:44 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: 21, had time on my hands few years ago so taught myself - was home-schooled thu | 09:44 |
| Kilos | old man | 09:44 |
| Kilos | wsell done pieter2627 you did a good job teaching yourself | 09:44 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: nice job! I got the mail | 09:44 |
| * inetpro will add a task on trello for superfly to review | 09:45 | |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: still have a long way to go | 09:45 |
| inetpro | let's hope that he will accept the changes | 09:46 |
| Kilos | ya getting past the fly is the biggest mission | 09:46 |
| Kilos | inetpro look at a map for the african map button | 09:49 |
| Kilos | never stop someone when they on a roll | 09:49 |
| Kilos | offer him coffee | 09:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 09:50 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 09:50 | |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee for all | 09:50 |
| Maaz | Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already | 09:50 |
| inetpro | ok, now we wait for mopkop to propose a merge first | 09:53 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:53 |
| Kilos | i wanna go flaunt our site by the big boys | 09:54 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 09:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: patience! | 09:54 |
| Kilos | Maaz dankie man | 09:54 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier my vriend | 09:54 |
| * inetpro wbbl | 09:54 | |
| Kilos | sigh | 09:54 |
| Kilos | ok ty | 09:54 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 baie dankie | 10:10 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: Plesier | 10:15 |
| Kilos | is jy nie op trello nie pieter2627 | 10:15 |
| pieter2627 | n svg van afrika http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blank_Map-Africa.svg | 10:15 |
| pieter2627 | Vroeer vandag op - user = pieter2627 | 10:16 |
| Kilos | superfly se daai wewrk van jou moet merge van trunk af | 10:16 |
| Kilos | werk | 10:16 |
| Kilos | anders gaan dit issues veroorsaak | 10:17 |
| Kilos | moet branch van trunk af skuus | 10:17 |
| pieter2627 | ok, kyk gou hoe om dit te doen | 10:18 |
| Kilos | waar moet ek kyk? | 10:18 |
| Kilos | ek dom jong | 10:18 |
| pieter2627 | nee ek kyk gou * | 10:19 |
| Kilos | o lol | 10:19 |
| Kilos | ek breek goed | 10:19 |
| pieter2627 | sorry, los gewoontlik ek (en I) uit as tik :P | 10:19 |
| Kilos | geen probleem | 10:20 |
| Kilos | ek sal gewoont word nog | 10:20 |
| Kilos | daai kaart is mooi maar kort net name van lande | 10:21 |
| pieter2627 | weet, hy is n svg so kan enige iets met hom doen (name by sit, klere verander, ...) | 10:22 |
| Kilos | aha | 10:23 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 11:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: and so we learn every day | 11:01 |
| Symmetria | gah, people freaking out bout coming to Kenya (all of it) without doing any homework and by getting their news from american media | 11:03 |
| Symmetria | to say all of Kenya is unsafe is the equiv. of saying all of South Africa is unsafe because people get shot in hillbrow | 11:03 |
| inetpro | hah Symmetria, isn't that normal? | 11:05 |
| inetpro | I just read a tweet this morning, American Police Killed More People in March (111) Than the Entire UK Police Have Killed Since 1900 | 11:06 |
| inetpro | but having said that, I must add that I haven't checked the validity of it | 11:07 |
| Kilos | ya | 11:16 |
| Kilos | inetpro just as well the fly keeps an eye on us all the time | 11:18 |
| inetpro | too be honest, I don't think on a web project it makes so much of a difference but let's do it the right way | 11:31 |
| inetpro | to be honest as well | 11:32 |
| Kilos | ya only one way, the right way | 11:41 |
| Kilos | if you cant do it right rather leave it | 11:42 |
| Kilos | wb pieter2627 | 11:58 |
| pieter2627 | thanks Kilos | 12:07 |
| Kilos | inetpro fill me in please | 12:08 |
| inetpro | Kilos: with? | 12:09 |
| Kilos | pietmans branch was made using moppies branch to go from right? | 12:09 |
| inetpro | correct | 12:09 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: so do we wait until mopkop comes back or are you starting afresh and basing off trunk? | 12:10 |
| Kilos | so then merging pietmans will include moppies work as well | 12:10 |
| Kilos | and also if im right | 12:10 |
| Kilos | everything is in code right? | 12:10 |
| pieter2627 | innetpro: the extra created pages and menu changes is based of mopkop's work - so think I'll have to wait | 12:11 |
| Kilos | so pietie can branch off trunk and copy paste all he has done to his new branch | 12:11 |
| Kilos | am i wrong? | 12:12 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 isnt your branch now inclusive of moppies? | 12:12 |
| inetpro | I think it makes sense to wait Kilos, it's only fair to acknowledge the work done by mopkop | 12:12 |
| Kilos | ya man but is my reasoning correct? | 12:13 |
| Kilos | hi georgelappies | 12:13 |
| georgelappies | hi Kilos, how are you doing? | 12:14 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: think so, but will then just have to hold the menu changes | 12:14 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 12:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: theoretically anyone could just start a new branch based on trunk and commit all changes made by mopkop and pieter2627 | 12:15 |
| georgelappies | good thanks Kilos | 12:16 |
| Kilos | inetpro do you know how to edit that map? | 12:16 |
| Kilos | only 55 countries that need names | 12:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: pieter2627 made a good suggestion, but I think we should stick with the one used at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa | 12:17 |
| inetpro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Africa_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg | 12:17 |
| Kilos | that ones good too, the less work the better and wiki is free | 12:18 |
| Kilos | na that secong link sucks | 12:18 |
| Kilos | second | 12:18 |
| pieter2627 | that one is a beauty | 12:18 |
| Kilos | just use this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa#/media/File:AfricaCIA-HiRes.jpg | 12:19 |
| Kilos | saves the zoom thing doesnt it | 12:20 |
| inetpro | uh | 12:20 |
| Kilos | sigh | 12:21 |
| Kilos | oh the african map thing isnt a button | 12:23 |
| Kilos | energise it | 12:23 |
| Kilos | wiki nice and fast today | 12:24 |
| inetpro | Kilos: one step at a time, let's just get the current stuff past the fly | 12:24 |
| Kilos | uh | 12:25 |
| inetpro | :-) | 12:26 |
| Kilos | i wonder if hed prefer to view a complete package or keep viewing bits and pieces | 12:26 |
| Kilos | you ask him | 12:26 |
| inetpro | ok, ok, go play with it on your own playground so long | 12:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:27 |
| inetpro | Kilos: he wrote, "I won't merge stuff that's not based off trunk, because that could introduce issues. Changes need to be isolated as much as possible in order to lessen the risk of each deployment." | 12:28 |
| Kilos | aha | 12:28 |
| Kilos | ok nuff said | 12:28 |
| Kilos | ill go sulk in the corner | 12:28 |
| Kilos | i think we hit a luck with the new youngsters we have now | 12:29 |
| inetpro | Kilos: we need more of them | 12:30 |
| Kilos | well find more man as soon as the site flies | 12:30 |
| Kilos | it will be like a big poster alongside the road | 12:30 |
| Kilos | i just worry about the other ubuntu-africa sites out there | 12:31 |
| Kilos | shouldnt we make ours ubuntu-linux-africa | 12:32 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 12:32 |
| Kilos | ok | 12:32 |
| inetpro | we are not a LUG | 12:32 |
| Kilos | i wonder about that at times | 12:33 |
| inetpro | it gets very complicated if you put all distros under one umbrella | 12:34 |
| inetpro | distro wars galore | 12:35 |
| inetpro | you just end up having unnecessary disagreemants all the time | 12:35 |
| Kilos | im thinking of the single linux or ubuntu users in a country | 12:36 |
| Kilos | without a home | 12:36 |
| Kilos | i have the whole nairobilug on #ubuntu-africa | 12:36 |
| Kilos | they have absorbed the ubuntu users | 12:37 |
| inetpro | I might not agree with everything canonical does but ubuntu is a good choice for any new linux user out there | 12:37 |
| inetpro | let's just focus on making it easier for everyone | 12:37 |
| inetpro | canonical can pay us later :-) | 12:37 |
| Kilos | lol i want my certificate | 12:38 |
| Kilos | then i can rest easier | 12:38 |
| inetpro | there's enough space for everyone in the sun | 12:39 |
| Kilos | and tell them we want phones | 12:39 |
| inetpro | under the sun | 12:39 |
| Kilos | hey you still have to work on you membership app wiki | 12:40 |
| Kilos | dont push that aside | 12:40 |
| inetpro | ya, ya | 12:40 |
| * inetpro has many priorities in this life | 12:41 | |
| Kilos | ya i know | 12:41 |
| Kilos | fly also but he did it | 12:41 |
| Kilos | play less minetest | 12:42 |
| Kilos | just now sharks starts | 12:43 |
| Kilos | sharks-crusaders | 12:44 |
| inetpro | oh thanks for the reminder | 12:44 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: btw, you might want to join the ubuntu-za team on LP at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za | 12:47 |
| Kilos | and our wiki | 12:47 |
| Kilos | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members | 12:48 |
| inetpro | Kilos: we're on 80 active members at the moment | 12:48 |
| Kilos | it was 81 last week, who died | 12:49 |
| inetpro | ai! | 12:49 |
| Kilos | oh my | 14:15 |
| Kilos | 40/3 | 14:15 |
| Kilos | hard to believe | 14:15 |
| Kilos | and 30 mins left | 14:16 |
| Kilos | wb pieter2627 | 14:49 |
| Kilos | eish 52/10 | 14:52 |
| pieter2627 | what is 52/10 | 14:55 |
| Kilos | the sharks lost | 14:55 |
| Kilos | so sad | 14:55 |
| pieter2627 | against? | 14:55 |
| Kilos | crusaders | 14:55 |
| Kilos | humiliation | 14:56 |
| pieter2627 | oh, then that's a bad score | 14:56 |
| Kilos | better to play with ubuntu | 14:56 |
| pieter2627 | 'with ubuntu' - so who are we playing against :P | 14:57 |
| Kilos | lol i play against me to see if i can break kde | 14:57 |
| Kilos | but 14.04 kde has been very bullet proof for me | 14:58 |
| pieter2627 | rofl | 14:58 |
| Kilos | all the unity's i broke often | 14:58 |
| pieter2627 | what is its mem consumption like | 14:58 |
| pieter2627 | * ? | 14:58 |
| Kilos | how do i check that | 14:58 |
| Kilos | i got 4g ram and everything runs fine | 14:59 |
| pieter2627 | on a fresh boot, how much mem is used? | 14:59 |
| Kilos | i dunno how to check that | 14:59 |
| pieter2627 | that how I check it at least | 15:00 |
| pieter2627 | terminal `free -m` | 15:00 |
| pieter2627 | 2nd row, 3rd col | 15:00 |
| Kilos | Mem: 3919 3755 163 64 205 1026 | 15:00 |
| Kilos | -/+ buffers/cache: 2523 1395 | 15:00 |
| Kilos | sjoe using lots | 15:01 |
| Kilos | but it never hangs or goes slow | 15:02 |
| pieter2627 | yea, 2.5Gb - probably browser or something | 15:02 |
| pieter2627 | My firefox uses 1Gb+ at times | 15:03 |
| Kilos | i have 2 browsers running | 15:05 |
| Kilos | opera and chrome | 15:05 |
| Kilos | 17 tabs on opera and 3 on chrome | 15:08 |
| Kilos | can that use all the ram? | 15:08 |
| pieter2627 | don't know - depends | 15:08 |
| Kilos | oh well it runs fine, maybe ill save for more ram | 15:09 |
| Kilos | ram is expensive though | 15:10 |
| Kilos | 100 bucks a gig | 15:10 |
| pieter2627 | yea, it is. am currently saving for some too | 15:10 |
| Kilos | ddr3? | 15:11 |
| pieter2627 | yes | 15:11 |
| pieter2627 | lappy | 15:11 |
| Kilos | i think i can get for R450 for 4g | 15:11 |
| Kilos | oh you lappy | 15:11 |
| Kilos | lappys are hard to use machines | 15:12 |
| Kilos | oh pieter2627 did you branch off the trunk? | 15:13 |
| pieter2627 | it's still at 2? | 15:14 |
| Kilos | hey? | 15:15 |
| pieter2627 | the trunk doesn't have mopkop's code yet | 15:16 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 15:16 |
| Kilos | let me see if i can arouse hhim | 15:16 |
| Kilos | ek het hom ge epos nou. sal sien wat doen dit | 15:19 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: to find top mem users try `top -o %MEM` | 15:20 |
| pieter2627 | ok | 15:20 |
| Kilos | let me do that | 15:25 |
| Kilos | weird i cant highlight there | 15:32 |
| Kilos | nothing uses much | 15:32 |
| pieter2627 | -o %MEM sorts it by mem usage | 15:33 |
| Kilos | here is the little that still showed after q | 15:36 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2i8BuoX56 | 15:36 |
| Kilos | but pc works fine so no worries | 15:37 |
| pieter2627 | got it. i might try kde some time - have little ram and it doesn't seem too bad | 15:45 |
| Kilos | how much ram have you got? | 15:46 |
| pieter2627 | 2Gb | 15:46 |
| Kilos | should work | 15:46 |
| pieter2627 | and have to run vm at times | 15:46 |
| Kilos | better with 4g or more | 15:46 |
| Kilos | quad or dual cpu? | 15:47 |
| pieter2627 | dual | 15:47 |
| Kilos | will be a bit slow | 15:47 |
| Kilos | im running it on a dual with 2g on old pc and thats kinda slow | 15:48 |
| pieter2627 | my main prop, when it is slow, is mem | 15:48 |
| Kilos | faster here with also dual 3g and 4g ram | 15:48 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: Two handy alternatives to the top command: htop and atop http://blog.moertel.com/posts/2010-06-10-two-handy-alternatives-to-the-top-command-htop-and-atop.html | 15:48 |
| Kilos | inetpro gooi n ketting om die outjie | 15:49 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: actually i mainly use atop - didn't know if Kilos had it installed. will check htop | 15:49 |
| Kilos | hy mag nie verlore raak nie | 15:49 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: also read: Help! Linux ate my RAM! http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | 15:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:51 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: that is exactly why ram is my main issue. when backup runs everything gets swapped for disk caching | 15:52 |
| pieter2627 | but that article states that it should happen - will have to look into it | 15:56 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: what kind of backup? | 15:56 |
| pieter2627 | server has backuppc - uses rsync | 15:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro mine also slows when running large rsyncs | 15:56 |
| inetpro | yep, rsync is known to use a lot of RAM | 15:59 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 15:59 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 15:59 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: incremental recursion mode can help with that | 16:00 |
| inetpro | wb superfly | 16:00 |
| pieter2627 | currently set to `1, 2, 3, 4` - don't know if it is the most effective | 16:03 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: you might want to read up about how to use rsync without running out of memory | 16:04 |
| inetpro | lots of articles out there | 16:05 |
| pieter2627 | didn't know that - will check it | 16:05 |
| inetpro | and if it's a real problem, rather use something else | 16:06 |
| inetpro | more than one way to do it | 16:07 |
| Kilos | so inetpro doubling ram will overcome that prob? | 16:08 |
| Kilos | but it never takes very long anyway | 16:08 |
| pieter2627 | yea, backuppc just seemed like the best a year ago when this was setup | 16:08 |
| Kilos | and irc still works kiff | 16:08 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 are you using unity? | 16:09 |
| superfly | thanks inetpro, time to go. supper needs to be made | 16:09 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: yes | 16:10 |
| Kilos | there is abuilt in backup tool called deja-dup that makes good backups | 16:11 |
| Kilos | shows when you type backup in dash | 16:11 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: don't underestimate tar | 16:12 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: have a few pcs in home that i need to backup (some win) that the server should auto backup - which is why backuppc is used | 16:13 |
| Kilos | aha | 16:13 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: might test using tar once | 16:14 |
| Kilos | oh pieter2627 if you taught yourself i spose its a bit much to ask if you got friends on linux too | 16:16 |
| Kilos | like varsity peeps | 16:16 |
| inetpro | hmm... with windows in there, that changes the whole picture | 16:17 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: not that are my age | 16:17 |
| Kilos | any age clever peeps are still clever peeps | 16:18 |
| Kilos | we need some more new blood here | 16:18 |
| pieter2627 | have two old linux peeps: one introduced me to linux (ubuntu) in 2009/2010, but out of contact now | 16:20 |
| pieter2627 | i am actually surprised not to see the other here | 16:20 |
| Kilos | what do you call old peeps | 16:20 |
| pieter2627 | 50/60+ | 16:21 |
| Kilos | ya thats close | 16:21 |
| * pieter2627 hopes that he did insult anyone | 16:21 | |
| Kilos | im older and we have one ballie that comes to meetings and when he needs help | 16:21 |
| Kilos | 72 | 16:21 |
| inetpro | yay! | 16:23 |
| Kilos | what? | 16:23 |
| * inetpro is still considered young :-) | 16:23 | |
| Kilos | lol | 16:23 |
| Kilos | jaja ou man | 16:23 |
| * pieter2627 thinks `old` is a relative term | 16:24 | |
| inetpro | but only three more years then I'm old | 16:24 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: correct | 16:24 |
| Kilos | nono old is when you spend a day with the kids and come back a wreck | 16:25 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: wreck as in a ship or antique | 16:26 |
| inetpro | come Kilos, where's that young dominee friend of yoiurs? | 16:26 |
| Kilos | poegaai | 16:26 |
| inetpro | yours* | 16:26 |
| Kilos | i dunno inetpro i mailed him already | 16:26 |
| inetpro | didn't you get his phone number? | 16:27 |
| Kilos | his fathers work number only | 16:27 |
| Kilos | wb captine | 16:43 |
| captine | thnx | 17:02 |
| captine | i havent been good at reading things today | 17:02 |
| Kilos | oh my are you ok? | 17:03 |
| inetpro | wb captine | 17:04 |
| captine | yip | 17:05 |
| captine | inlaws all gone. | 17:05 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:05 |
| captine | so just 2 of us with 2 kids... | 17:05 |
| captine | eish... | 17:05 |
| captine | tough | 17:05 |
| Kilos | were they visiting? | 17:05 |
| Symmetria | hrm, how do you deal with 128 bit unsigned ints in C? | 17:08 |
| captine | yip | 17:29 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:29 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:29 |
| captine | mom in law was here for 7 weeks for when our daughter arrived... | 17:30 |
| Kilos | aha | 17:30 |
| captine | very helpful | 17:30 |
| magespawn | not many people would say that about their mother-in-law | 17:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:31 |
| captine | :) | 17:37 |
| magespawn | ah well i suppose it takes all sorts | 17:42 |
| magespawn | ol | 17:42 |
| magespawn | lol | 17:42 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 17:42 |
| Kilos | captine you very lucky | 17:42 |
| Kilos | Maaz seen mopkop | 18:49 |
| Maaz | Kilos: mopkop was last seen 1 day and 46 minutes ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-04-03 20:03:32 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-04-03 20:03:40 SAST | 18:49 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: patience! | 18:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:59 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:00 |
| inetpro | tough, I know | 19:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: just do it all yourself | 19:01 |
| Kilos | nono he must get the credit for what he has done, he will also apply for membership some time | 19:02 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:02 |
| Kilos | i made it because of others so dont need to steal credits | 19:04 |
| inetpro | good boy! | 19:06 |
| inetpro | the worst would be loosing his contribution going forward | 19:07 |
| Kilos | how | 19:08 |
| Kilos | ? | 19:08 |
| inetpro | demotivating | 19:08 |
| Kilos | thats what im worried about, he seems to have cooled off some since first coming here | 19:08 |
| inetpro | demotivating if somebody else just takes over after having made an effort to get involved | 19:09 |
| inetpro | I mean it would be demotivating for him | 19:09 |
| Kilos | oh i see what you mean, nono i think it will be ok for them both to share credits | 19:09 |
| Kilos | i think its an important thing this site because of the work it will accomplish so credits can cover all of you | 19:10 |
| * inetpro just wants the site to be ready asap | 19:11 | |
| Kilos | the only other sites and channels that will encompass such and area are the main ubuntu ones | 19:11 |
| Kilos | s/and/an | 19:12 |
| Kilos | i just not sure about things like a mailing list | 19:12 |
| inetpro | mailing list can be set up easily | 19:12 |
| Kilos | many peeps dont like the main list or channel | 19:13 |
| Kilos | ya but who will be the support there inetpro | 19:13 |
| Kilos | thats the thing | 19:13 |
| inetpro | what support do you really need for that? | 19:13 |
| Kilos | like our list peeps that can help | 19:14 |
| Kilos | and peeps that will point them to the irc channel when they are struggling like i did | 19:14 |
| Kilos | the main lists and channels helped me niks | 19:14 |
| Kilos | fly saw me battling and brought me here | 19:15 |
| inetpro | you will be a member | 19:15 |
| Kilos | him or you, i forget sometimes | 19:15 |
| Kilos | ya but im not real help | 19:15 |
| inetpro | all other members support each other | 19:16 |
| inetpro | it gets a life of it's own | 19:16 |
| Kilos | hopefully ya but atm the africa peeps seem to be battling just to keep up with daily work | 19:16 |
| inetpro | people come and go | 19:17 |
| inetpro | that is normal | 19:17 |
| Kilos | thats the part i dont like much, losing peeps | 19:17 |
| inetpro | important is to have people like you who stick around | 19:18 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:18 |
| inetpro | that's why you got membership, remember!? | 19:19 |
| Kilos | ya i spose | 19:19 |
| inetpro | now you just keep helping others to get where you are | 19:20 |
| inetpro | it's a big mountain to climb for any newbie | 19:20 |
| Kilos | you forget hey | 19:20 |
| Kilos | you and fly and some others carried me to here | 19:21 |
| Kilos | now we lost the hot spark again so something not right | 19:22 |
| Kilos | wb pieter2627 | 19:27 |
| Kilos | are you still studying? | 19:27 |
| pieter2627 | no, will next year | 19:32 |
| Kilos | there is something you can do meantime | 19:32 |
| pieter2627 | currently trying to learn QT | 19:32 |
| Kilos | recognised world wide | 19:33 |
| Kilos | Maaz lpi manual | 19:33 |
| Maaz | http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/sites/default/files/LPIManual_v_09.pdf | 19:33 |
| Kilos | that might be an old link | 19:33 |
| Kilos | last i heard they dropped something | 19:34 |
| pieter2627 | wow, long manual | 19:34 |
| Kilos | you should find it easy with the knowledge you already have | 19:35 |
| Kilos | Maaz google lpi1 manual | 19:35 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "LPIC-1 Linux Server Professional - Linux Professional Institute Linux ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-lpi/lpic-1-linux-server-professional/ :: "Study Resources - Linux Professional Institute Linux Professional ..." https://www.lpi.org/study-resources/ :: "GNU/Linux Administration Manuals - Savannah" http://www.nongnu.org/lpi-manuals/ :: | 19:35 |
| Maaz | "ict@innovation: Training Guide on Linux System Administration, LPI ..." https://www.lin… | 19:35 |
| Kilos | Maaz google lpi2 manual | 19:36 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "The LPIC-2 Exam Prep" http://lpic2.unix.nl/ :: "GNU/Linux Administration Manuals - Savannah" http://www.nongnu.org/lpi-manuals/ :: "Study Resources - Linux Professional Institute Linux Professional ..." https://www.lpi.org/study-resources/ :: "LPIC-2 201 Exam Objectives - Linux Professional Institute Linux ..." https://www.lpi.org/study-resources/lpic-2-201 | 19:36 |
| Maaz | -exam-objectives/ :: "IBM developerWorks : Linux Professional Institute (LPI) exam prep .… | 19:36 |
| Kilos | the first 100 pages in that manual are raw basics and the hardware side | 19:37 |
| Kilos | you can also arrange to write the exams at local colleges etc | 19:38 |
| magespawn | i think you can write the lpi exam through comptia | 19:54 |
| magespawn | linux plus is lpic 1 | 19:54 |
| Kilos | ty magespawn | 19:54 |
| Kilos | hows your studies going magespawn ? | 19:57 |
| magespawn | i am making progres | 19:58 |
| Kilos | good and your plans to move? | 19:58 |
| magespawn | probably going to write the fist exam at the end of may | 19:59 |
| magespawn | still job hunting first | 19:59 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:59 |
| magespawn | bed time, good night all | 20:18 |
| Kilos | night magespawn | 20:18 |
| Kilos | me too | 20:19 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:19 |
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