[01:17] <DazPetty> where is the log file that registsered failed login attempts?
[01:18] <Unit193>  /var/log/auth.log
[01:18] <DazPetty> thanks
[01:31] <Quenz> My resolution was 1024x768 yesterday, and now it's 640x480 and that's the only option it gives me in the Display settings.
[01:32] <holstein> Quenz: whats different? an upgrade? broken hardware? different user account?
[01:34] <Quenz> holstein: I can't think of anything that would be different.
[01:35] <holstein> Quenz: sure, so, have you tested the hardware then? to see if its broken?
[01:35] <Quenz> holstein: Tested it how?
[01:35] <holstein> have you tried booting a different user? or a different kernel in the grub? or tried a live iso?
[01:39] <Quenz> No, holstein. I'll try those things.
[01:40] <holstein> there are handy logs as well, im sure... if you can get in, you can look around easily.. i think the first thing i would do is just look for and apply updates.. if i have a proprietary graphics driver installed, i start there, after i have tested the hardware with a "known good" live iso, or the officially supported OS
[01:42] <Quenz> holstein: What is a "known good" live iso?
[01:42] <holstein> Quenz: ?
[01:43] <holstein> Quenz: its one that i *know* my hardware support.. the one that, for example, you say worked, before.. the installer live iso that you used to install the operating system that you say worked
[01:44] <Quenz> Well yeah it was working when I first installed it so I guess I can just try the live iso.
[02:02] <Quenz> holstein: Okay so I tried the live iso and the resolution was fine. What might the next step be...?
[02:03] <holstein> 21:40 < holstein> there are handy logs as well, im sure... if you can get in, you can look around easily.. i think the first thing i would do is  just look for and apply updates.. if i have a proprietary graphics driver installed, i start there, after i have tested....
[02:03] <holstein> what driver are you using? have you applied updates? what hardware do you have? have you tried a different user?
[02:06] <Quenz> Yes, I've applied updates. I have the default open source driver. I tried installing the proprietary one yesterday but I don't think it's possible with my video card.
[02:07] <holstein> Quenz: sure.. thats like what has caused the issue
[02:07] <holstein> its likely, you have the older config for the proprietary driver you tried to install in place
[02:08] <Quenz> I didn't succeed in installing anything.
[02:08] <holstein> Quenz: i hear that, friend.. but, still, you have a graphics related issue that has happened since yesterday, where, you did *something*
[02:09] <Quenz> Well, should I try a different user account first?
[02:09] <holstein> Quenz: i would elaborate about what graphics driver you are using and what you did with what proprietary driver, either here or #ubuntu
[02:09] <holstein> Quenz: i use a different user account to remove my users config from the equation... its literally quite trivial to boot into the guest account and see what is going on
[02:11] <Quenz> I didn't do anything with any proprietary driver. I just followed these steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD so I installed flgrx but then when I go into Additional Drivers it tells me "No additional drivers available."
[02:12] <Quenz> holstein: How do I remove my config? Do I delete the .config folder in my directory, or...?
[02:12] <holstein> Quenz: sure, friend.. that *is* the proprietary driver, and i assure you, im not "blaming" you, or saying you did anything wrong.. just that, its relevant
[02:13] <holstein> if you say "i installed flgrx" yesterday, and now, you have resolution issues, thats relevant..
[02:13] <holstein> Quenz: please check and see what driver you are using.
[02:13] <Quenz> Yeah, I know. I'm not saying you're blaming me or anything.
[02:13] <Quenz> Alright
[02:13] <holstein> lshw -c video
[02:13] <holstein> in a terminal..
[02:13] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system
[02:14] <holstein> then, make certain you dont have an xorg.conf from an attempt you made to install fglrx
[02:17] <Quenz> Seems I don't have any driver. :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/10735031/
[02:19] <Quenz> Because there's no driver= value, holstein
[02:20] <holstein> Quenz: i see that, but, i assure you, its not becuase you are not using a driver
[02:20] <Quenz> How do i make certain I don't have an xorg.conf from an attempt I made to install fglrx?
[02:21] <holstein> Quenz: look
[02:21] <holstein> Quenz: look for one. see if you have it
[02:21] <holstein> !xorg
[02:21] <holstein> !xorgconf
[02:22] <holstein> you dont need one, and if you have one, i would simply rename it.. "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/BACKUPxorg" for example
[02:22] <Quenz> holstein: Well, there's no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[02:23] <holstein> Quenz: ok.. so, you can elaborate about what you did, when you installed what you installed that broke you system, for a volunteer here, or in #ubuntu, since its a more general driver issue..
[02:23] <Quenz> Alright
[02:30] <Quenz> Thanks for your help holstein.
[02:40] <Enkidu_ak> Is there a better option for graphical installation of debs than ubuntu software center? I was looking for something light, like qapt, but I don't want to install all of the kde dependencies. My search results haven't given me much hope.
[02:41] <holstein> Enkidu_ak: i use gksudo gdebi-gtk
[02:41] <Enkidu_ak> dpkg is always an option, of course
[02:56] <ObrienDave> synaptic package manager, gdebi
[02:56] <holstein> yup.. +1 synaptic..
[02:56] <holstein> !info synaptic
[02:57] <ObrienDave> synaptic for general installing. gdebi for straight .deb D/Ls
[03:02] <Enkidu_ak> I currently use synaptic, but USC is set to handle debs by default. I've fixed that now :) Thanks for the tip
[06:10] <DazPetty> my keyboard and mouse doesn't work when i start my comp sometimes
[07:27] <Enkidu_ak> DazPetty: Sometimes? Do they work after the boot is complete?
[07:27] <DazPetty> it works half the time
[07:28] <DazPetty> i dont get it
[07:28] <DazPetty> it's strange i know
[07:28] <DazPetty> sometimes i boot up and it goes into ubuntu and the keyboard/mouse dont work
[07:28] <Enkidu_ak> Do you have sporadic network issues as well?
[07:28] <DazPetty> then i turn of the computer
[07:28] <DazPetty> maybe it will
[07:28] <DazPetty> maybe it wont
[07:28] <DazPetty> no
[07:29] <Enkidu_ak> Maybe it's hardware. Have you tried different usb ports?
[10:10] <cq-aux> I would just like to restart my power applet so it shows me the time-estimate
[10:11] <cq-aux> it's not plugged in - but it seems/shows plugged in?
[10:11] <cq-aux> Church: blood moon tonight 0 the reaping of souls!
[10:14] <htqp> cq-aux:      xfce4-power-manager --restart
[10:15] <cq-aux> that looks promising - do I have to sudo it?
[10:15] <htqp> nope
[10:18] <cq-aux> awesome I'll just try that
[10:19] <cq-aux> it restarts and doesn't estimate?dude
[10:22] <keymei> try to disable/enable the indicator plugin
[10:23] <keymei> xfce-indicator-plugin
[10:24] <cq-aux> no such luck
[10:25] <cq-aux> just a lightning bolt like a third of haeven is coming down?
[10:30] <cq-aux> well... it's not working dude
[10:41] <htqp> cq-aux: I don't know how to fix the graphical indicator, but as a workaround, you can compute remaining energy by dividing energy_now by energy_full files under /sys/class/power/supply/BAT0 or similar name
[10:43] <cq-aux> oh that's new to me
[10:44] <cq-aux> can;t access it
[10:45] <htqp> BAT1, etc..
[10:49] <cq-aux> I'm lost soul
[10:59] <Alftand> hello
[11:00] <Alftand> i had some concerns about installing xubuntu 14.10
[11:00] <Alftand> when the newest release (vivid) comes out how long will i have before utopic loses support?
[11:01] <brainvvash> 3 months (9 in total)
[11:01] <Alftand> and is there a delay between ubuntu 15.04 release and Xubuntu 15.04 release?
[11:01] <brainvvash> no
[11:02] <Alftand> do the *buntu releases collaborate to release at the same time then?
[11:02] <brainvvash> that is the plan
[11:03] <Alftand> ah, kk
[11:03] <Alftand> what will happen with that when wayland comes out
[11:03] <Alftand> seeing most of the other ubuntu versions are going wayland
[11:03] <Alftand> but ubuntu is going mir
[11:03] <Alftand> is that gonna cause a big problem in future?
[11:04] <brainvvash> well, this should be discussed in #ubuntu+1 or #xubuntu-offtopic
[11:41] <xubuntu50w> hi, I need a little assistance installing xubuntu using usb pendrive
[12:35] <Enkidu_ak> u/ cfhowlett
[12:35] <cfhowlett> Enkidu_ak, ???
[12:36] <Enkidu_ak> Er... That was supposed to be o/ by way of greeting
[12:36] <cfhowlett> Enkidu_ak, :)  and to you
[18:55] <Xray> Will 15.04 be a LTS version ?
[18:56] <Unit193> No.
[18:57] <Xray> ok.. thank you.
[19:04] <Alftand> hello
[19:04] <Alftand> im struggling
[19:04] <Alftand> i installed xfce 4.12 from the ppa in xubuntu 14.10
[19:05] <Alftand> but whenever i close my laptop lid
[19:05] <Alftand> the suspend messes something up
[19:05] <Alftand> i try to log back in
[19:05] <Alftand> and the password stuff appears
[19:06] <Alftand> but as soon as i've hit enter the screen just goes black
[19:06] <Alftand> it doesn't unlock the computer
[19:06] <Alftand> the screen just goes black
[19:06] <Alftand> could anyone help me?
[19:12] <Alftand> i've ppa-purged the xfc3
[19:13] <Alftand> i've ppa-purged the xfce
[19:13] <Alftand> gonna reboot to see if it fixed it
[19:21] <Alftand> rebooted and the problem still wont go away
[19:26] <Alftand> is anyone active on this channel
[19:28] <Alftand> is anyone here?
[19:30] <Unit193> Yes, people are.
[19:30] <Alftand> brilliant!
[19:30] <Alftand> :-)
[19:30] <Unit193> Might have to wait a bit for someone to become active.
[19:30] <Alftand> i've been having trouble with xubuntu utopic
[19:31] <Alftand> when i close laptop lid (suspend) it wont let me log back in again
[19:32] <Alftand> i type in password, click login and all i get is a black screen and i have to reboot to regain access
[19:32] <Alftand> is there any solution to this?
[19:33] <Alftand> i've tried ppa-purging xfce 4.12 which i installed via ppa
[19:33] <Unit193> There's some voodoo between light-locker, logind, xfce4-power-manager, or something.
[19:37] <Alftand> what should i do to the lightlocker or powermanager to fix it
[19:38] <Alftand> should i disable "lock when computer sleeps option"
[19:38] <Alftand> should i disable "lock when computer sleeps" option?*
[19:41] <semioticrobotic> Is this an appropriate place to ask a question about installing Xubuntu?
[19:41] <Alftand> yeah
[19:41] <Alftand> let me guess... fairly new computer you're installing it on?
[19:41] <semioticrobotic> I've tried installing Xubuntu 14.04.1 and 14.10 and ...
[19:41] <semioticrobotic> yes!
[19:41] <semioticrobotic> UEFI!
[19:41] <Alftand> EFI boot causing a problem
[19:41] <Alftand> tyh
[19:41] <Alftand> yh
[19:42] <Alftand> it's an easy problem
[19:42] <semioticrobotic> So obviously I am not the only one having a problem!
[19:42] <Alftand> in bios settings there is an option you can use
[19:42] <Alftand> i had this problem installing it to
[19:42] <semioticrobotic> So change a setting in BIOS?
[19:42] <Alftand> yh
[19:42] <Alftand> change EFI boot to CSM boot
[19:43] <Alftand> it is like compatibility mode
[19:43] <Alftand> set that option
[19:43] <Alftand> plug in install drive
[19:43] <Alftand> and should install like a dream
[19:43] <semioticrobotic> CSM boot. Got it. Hopefully I have that option. Not sure, but I will certainly check
[19:43] <Alftand> if you're fairly new to linux i suggest 14.04
[19:43] <Unit193> Though Xubuntu does work in pure UEFI mode.
[19:44] <Unit193> !uefi
[19:44] <Alftand> and
[19:44] <Alftand> you MUST disable Secure Boot
[19:44] <Alftand> if you find a secure boot option disable it
[19:44] <semioticrobotic> Yes, that much I could figure out. I did successfully disable that
[19:45] <semioticrobotic> I had to switch back to elementary OS in the meantime
[19:46] <Alftand_> sorry my irc flitched
[19:46] <Alftand_> glitched*
[19:46] <semioticrobotic> that's alright
[19:46] <Alftand_> where did i get to
[19:46] <Alftand_> oh yh
[19:46] <semioticrobotic> I successfully switched back to elementary OS, but still want to give Xubuntu a try
[19:46] <Alftand_> dont trust the EFI install webpages
[19:46] <Alftand_> CSM is the best solution
[19:47] <Alftand_> works out of the box
[19:47] <semioticrobotic> Alrighty
[19:47] <Unit193> (Secure boot works with the Xubuntu ISOs.)
[19:47] <Alftand_> ok
[19:47] <Alftand_> im not 100% with secure boot stuff
[19:47] <semioticrobotic> Unit193: Do I have to have secure boot enabled for this to work?
[19:48] <Alftand_> many online guides for installation on 1.8
[19:48] <Unit193> semioticrobotic: No, I'm saying even if you do, it should.  There was a link ubottu gave that should help.
[19:48] <semioticrobotic> Got the link. Thanks
[19:48] <Alftand_> whenever i used these "install on EFI" options it broke my installation
[19:49] <Alftand_> and it was complex
[19:49] <Alftand_> i just used CSM
[19:49] <Alftand_> it cuts out alot of extra work
[19:49] <semioticrobotic> Alftand: Okay, thanks. I will look into it and see if I have that mode. Hopefully I do. Running a Dell XPS 13
[19:49] <Alftand_> do you have any former linux experience
[19:50] <semioticrobotic> Yes
[19:50] <Unit193> If you want to dual boot, generally disabling UEFI mode isn't an option, but it is easier.
[19:51] <semioticrobotic> Unit193: OK. I will keep that in mind.
[19:51] <Alftand_> dual boot was always a failiure for me
[19:52] <semioticrobotic> I've never tried dual booting, but have always wanted to
[19:52] <Alftand_> it always ruined my installation/caused complications on my attempts
[19:53] <Unit193> 0_o
[19:53] <semioticrobotic> Alftand: Thank you very much for the advice. I will give it a try and keep my fingers crossed
[19:53] <semioticrobotic> Thanks, too, Unit193
[19:53] <Unit193> Sure.
[19:53] <Alftand_> and b4 u go
[19:53] <semioticrobotic> Yeah?
[19:53] <Unit193> Alftand_: Generally speaking, install Windows first and there's no problems.
[19:53] <Alftand_> xubuntu can be a devil with sound and audio
[19:53] <Alftand_> so remember to come back if u have any problems
[19:53] <Alftand_> :-)
[19:54] <semioticrobotic> Alftand: Will do. :) Thank you!
[19:54] <Alftand_> :-)
[19:54] <Alftand_> have a nice day/evening
[19:54] <Alftand_> depending on timezone
[19:54] <Alftand_> lol
[19:54] <semioticrobotic> Thanks. You too.
[19:59] <Alftand> welcome
[20:00] <Alftand> welcome
[21:26] <bagginsDK> Hello guys! I would like to know the differences between ubuntu and xubuntu. I thought they are similar but beside DE i think that also they have different kernel version
[21:26] <knome> no, the kernel is the same
[21:28] <Unit193> DE, default applications, and some default settings.  Core is the same, same repos, etc.
[21:34] <bagginsDK> knome: Which is the latest kernel version for xubuntu?
[21:34] <Unit193> bagginsDK: Which version of Ubuntu?
[21:35] <bagginsDK> 14.04
[21:36] <Unit193> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[21:36] <Unit193> !info linux-image-generic-lts-utopic trusty
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> (is optional?? What is this, Hurd? :P)
[21:37] <Unit193> SonikkuAmerica: Well, people compile their own kernels for one.  I do.
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Granted...
[21:41] <gabriel_> Hi all. I need help reporting a bug. I'm new on this. Thanks in advance.
[21:41] <bagginsDK> I have xubuntu 14.04 installed but for a unknowned to me reason, i am running the latest kernel after update and upgrade cmds which is 3.13-0.48.
[21:41] <Unit193> !but
[21:41] <Unit193> !bug
[21:42] <Unit193> bagginsDK: That's the default for trusty if you aren't on HWE, right.
[21:42] <bagginsDK> Unit193, but why ubuntu uses 3.16...?
[21:43] <Unit193> bagginsDK: Because on that system you are on HWE.
[21:43] <Unit193> !hwe
[21:44] <gabriel_> thanks for the answer, i'm trying to get what package i need to report
[21:45] <gabriel_> it's a problem with the apps menu. i can describe the problem here if helps.
[21:45] <gabriel_> i have xfce distro
[21:45] <gabriel_> xubuntu
[21:45] <Unit193> gabriel_: Sure, so we can help you find out what package.
[21:47] <gabriel_> thanx. when i open apps menu, and then click an app + ESC key, like canceling a dragndrop, appmenu closes
[21:47] <gabriel_> then click again on appmenu, and dragndrop seems persistant.
[21:53] <bagginsDK> Unit193, i have read the links that you send me but  i could not run the cmd which is overcoming this issue.
[21:57] <Unit193> bagginsDK: Pardon?
[21:57] <Unit193> bagginsDK: If you want to jump to later ones, just install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic.
[22:00] <bagginsDK> Unit193, i thought that it was a issue of my system. I am sorry. But why is there difference between ubuntu and xubuntu? I thought they were the same
[22:01] <knome> bagginsDK, 00:28  Unit193: DE, default applications, and some default settings.  Core is the same, same repos, etc.
[22:30] <nomic> xubuntu = xfce - ubuntu = 'unity' desktop - which is a version of gnome
[22:31] <nomic> xfce = the window manager - hence the "x" ubuntu
[22:31] <nomic> diff is mainly the window manager
[22:33] <knome> xfce is a desktop environment (DE), noy only a window manager