[01:17] where is the log file that registsered failed login attempts? [01:18] /var/log/auth.log [01:18] thanks [01:31] My resolution was 1024x768 yesterday, and now it's 640x480 and that's the only option it gives me in the Display settings. [01:32] Quenz: whats different? an upgrade? broken hardware? different user account? [01:34] holstein: I can't think of anything that would be different. [01:35] Quenz: sure, so, have you tested the hardware then? to see if its broken? [01:35] holstein: Tested it how? [01:35] have you tried booting a different user? or a different kernel in the grub? or tried a live iso? [01:39] No, holstein. I'll try those things. [01:40] there are handy logs as well, im sure... if you can get in, you can look around easily.. i think the first thing i would do is just look for and apply updates.. if i have a proprietary graphics driver installed, i start there, after i have tested the hardware with a "known good" live iso, or the officially supported OS [01:42] holstein: What is a "known good" live iso? [01:42] Quenz: ? [01:43] Quenz: its one that i *know* my hardware support.. the one that, for example, you say worked, before.. the installer live iso that you used to install the operating system that you say worked [01:44] Well yeah it was working when I first installed it so I guess I can just try the live iso. [02:02] holstein: Okay so I tried the live iso and the resolution was fine. What might the next step be...? [02:03] 21:40 < holstein> there are handy logs as well, im sure... if you can get in, you can look around easily.. i think the first thing i would do is just look for and apply updates.. if i have a proprietary graphics driver installed, i start there, after i have tested.... [02:03] what driver are you using? have you applied updates? what hardware do you have? have you tried a different user? [02:06] Yes, I've applied updates. I have the default open source driver. I tried installing the proprietary one yesterday but I don't think it's possible with my video card. [02:07] Quenz: sure.. thats like what has caused the issue [02:07] its likely, you have the older config for the proprietary driver you tried to install in place [02:08] I didn't succeed in installing anything. [02:08] Quenz: i hear that, friend.. but, still, you have a graphics related issue that has happened since yesterday, where, you did *something* [02:09] Well, should I try a different user account first? [02:09] Quenz: i would elaborate about what graphics driver you are using and what you did with what proprietary driver, either here or #ubuntu [02:09] Quenz: i use a different user account to remove my users config from the equation... its literally quite trivial to boot into the guest account and see what is going on [02:11] I didn't do anything with any proprietary driver. I just followed these steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD so I installed flgrx but then when I go into Additional Drivers it tells me "No additional drivers available." [02:12] holstein: How do I remove my config? Do I delete the .config folder in my directory, or...? [02:12] Quenz: sure, friend.. that *is* the proprietary driver, and i assure you, im not "blaming" you, or saying you did anything wrong.. just that, its relevant [02:13] if you say "i installed flgrx" yesterday, and now, you have resolution issues, thats relevant.. [02:13] Quenz: please check and see what driver you are using. [02:13] Yeah, I know. I'm not saying you're blaming me or anything. [02:13] Alright [02:13] lshw -c video [02:13] in a terminal.. [02:13] http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system [02:14] then, make certain you dont have an xorg.conf from an attempt you made to install fglrx [02:17] Seems I don't have any driver. :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/10735031/ [02:19] Because there's no driver= value, holstein [02:20] Quenz: i see that, but, i assure you, its not becuase you are not using a driver [02:20] How do i make certain I don't have an xorg.conf from an attempt I made to install fglrx? [02:21] Quenz: look [02:21] Quenz: look for one. see if you have it [02:21] !xorg [02:21] X.Org is an implementation of the X Windows System, and is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart it on an Ubuntu system, type 'sudo service lightdm restart'. To fix screen resolution or other X.Org problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . See also !xorgconf [02:21] !xorgconf [02:21] The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. See `man xorg.conf` for file structure and syntax. | Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf | ATI proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd | Nvidia proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia [02:22] you dont need one, and if you have one, i would simply rename it.. "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/BACKUPxorg" for example [02:22] holstein: Well, there's no xorg.conf in /etc/X11 [02:23] Quenz: ok.. so, you can elaborate about what you did, when you installed what you installed that broke you system, for a volunteer here, or in #ubuntu, since its a more general driver issue.. [02:23] Alright [02:30] Thanks for your help holstein. [02:40] Is there a better option for graphical installation of debs than ubuntu software center? I was looking for something light, like qapt, but I don't want to install all of the kde dependencies. My search results haven't given me much hope. [02:41] Enkidu_ak: i use gksudo gdebi-gtk [02:41] dpkg is always an option, of course [02:56] synaptic package manager, gdebi [02:56] yup.. +1 synaptic.. [02:56] !info synaptic [02:56] synaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.81.2 (utopic), package size 1328 kB, installed size 7650 kB [02:57] synaptic for general installing. gdebi for straight .deb D/Ls [03:02] I currently use synaptic, but USC is set to handle debs by default. I've fixed that now :) Thanks for the tip [06:10] my keyboard and mouse doesn't work when i start my comp sometimes [07:27] DazPetty: Sometimes? Do they work after the boot is complete? [07:27] it works half the time [07:28] i dont get it [07:28] it's strange i know [07:28] sometimes i boot up and it goes into ubuntu and the keyboard/mouse dont work [07:28] Do you have sporadic network issues as well? [07:28] then i turn of the computer [07:28] maybe it will [07:28] maybe it wont [07:28] no [07:29] Maybe it's hardware. Have you tried different usb ports? === PaulW2U_ is now known as pw2 [10:10] I would just like to restart my power applet so it shows me the time-estimate [10:11] it's not plugged in - but it seems/shows plugged in? [10:11] Church: blood moon tonight 0 the reaping of souls! [10:14] cq-aux: xfce4-power-manager --restart [10:15] that looks promising - do I have to sudo it? [10:15] nope [10:18] awesome I'll just try that [10:19] it restarts and doesn't estimate?dude [10:22] try to disable/enable the indicator plugin [10:23] xfce-indicator-plugin [10:24] no such luck [10:25] just a lightning bolt like a third of haeven is coming down? [10:30] well... it's not working dude [10:41] cq-aux: I don't know how to fix the graphical indicator, but as a workaround, you can compute remaining energy by dividing energy_now by energy_full files under /sys/class/power/supply/BAT0 or similar name [10:43] oh that's new to me [10:44] can;t access it [10:45] BAT1, etc.. [10:49] I'm lost soul [10:59] hello [11:00] i had some concerns about installing xubuntu 14.10 [11:00] when the newest release (vivid) comes out how long will i have before utopic loses support? [11:01] 3 months (9 in total) [11:01] and is there a delay between ubuntu 15.04 release and Xubuntu 15.04 release? [11:01] no [11:02] do the *buntu releases collaborate to release at the same time then? [11:02] that is the plan [11:03] ah, kk [11:03] what will happen with that when wayland comes out [11:03] seeing most of the other ubuntu versions are going wayland [11:03] but ubuntu is going mir [11:03] is that gonna cause a big problem in future? [11:04] well, this should be discussed in #ubuntu+1 or #xubuntu-offtopic === tomreyn_ is now known as tomreyn [11:41] hi, I need a little assistance installing xubuntu using usb pendrive [12:35] u/ cfhowlett [12:35] Enkidu_ak, ??? [12:36] Er... That was supposed to be o/ by way of greeting [12:36] Enkidu_ak, :) and to you === pw2 is now known as Paulw2U [18:55] Will 15.04 be a LTS version ? [18:56] No. [18:57] ok.. thank you. [19:04] hello [19:04] im struggling [19:04] i installed xfce 4.12 from the ppa in xubuntu 14.10 [19:05] but whenever i close my laptop lid [19:05] the suspend messes something up [19:05] i try to log back in [19:05] and the password stuff appears [19:06] but as soon as i've hit enter the screen just goes black [19:06] it doesn't unlock the computer [19:06] the screen just goes black [19:06] could anyone help me? [19:12] i've ppa-purged the xfc3 [19:13] i've ppa-purged the xfce [19:13] gonna reboot to see if it fixed it [19:21] rebooted and the problem still wont go away [19:26] is anyone active on this channel [19:28] is anyone here? [19:30] Yes, people are. [19:30] brilliant! [19:30] :-) [19:30] Might have to wait a bit for someone to become active. [19:30] i've been having trouble with xubuntu utopic [19:31] when i close laptop lid (suspend) it wont let me log back in again [19:32] i type in password, click login and all i get is a black screen and i have to reboot to regain access [19:32] is there any solution to this? [19:33] i've tried ppa-purging xfce 4.12 which i installed via ppa [19:33] There's some voodoo between light-locker, logind, xfce4-power-manager, or something. [19:37] what should i do to the lightlocker or powermanager to fix it [19:38] should i disable "lock when computer sleeps option" [19:38] should i disable "lock when computer sleeps" option?* [19:41] Is this an appropriate place to ask a question about installing Xubuntu? [19:41] yeah [19:41] let me guess... fairly new computer you're installing it on? [19:41] I've tried installing Xubuntu 14.04.1 and 14.10 and ... [19:41] yes! [19:41] UEFI! [19:41] EFI boot causing a problem [19:41] tyh [19:41] yh [19:42] it's an easy problem [19:42] So obviously I am not the only one having a problem! [19:42] in bios settings there is an option you can use [19:42] i had this problem installing it to [19:42] So change a setting in BIOS? [19:42] yh [19:42] change EFI boot to CSM boot [19:43] it is like compatibility mode [19:43] set that option [19:43] plug in install drive [19:43] and should install like a dream [19:43] CSM boot. Got it. Hopefully I have that option. Not sure, but I will certainly check [19:43] if you're fairly new to linux i suggest 14.04 [19:43] Though Xubuntu does work in pure UEFI mode. [19:44] !uefi [19:44] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [19:44] and [19:44] you MUST disable Secure Boot [19:44] if you find a secure boot option disable it [19:44] Yes, that much I could figure out. I did successfully disable that [19:45] I had to switch back to elementary OS in the meantime [19:46] sorry my irc flitched [19:46] glitched* [19:46] that's alright [19:46] where did i get to [19:46] oh yh [19:46] I successfully switched back to elementary OS, but still want to give Xubuntu a try [19:46] dont trust the EFI install webpages [19:46] CSM is the best solution [19:47] works out of the box [19:47] Alrighty [19:47] (Secure boot works with the Xubuntu ISOs.) [19:47] ok [19:47] im not 100% with secure boot stuff [19:47] Unit193: Do I have to have secure boot enabled for this to work? [19:48] many online guides for installation on 1.8 [19:48] semioticrobotic: No, I'm saying even if you do, it should. There was a link ubottu gave that should help. [19:48] Got the link. Thanks [19:48] whenever i used these "install on EFI" options it broke my installation [19:49] and it was complex [19:49] i just used CSM [19:49] it cuts out alot of extra work [19:49] Alftand: Okay, thanks. I will look into it and see if I have that mode. Hopefully I do. Running a Dell XPS 13 [19:49] do you have any former linux experience [19:50] Yes [19:50] If you want to dual boot, generally disabling UEFI mode isn't an option, but it is easier. [19:51] Unit193: OK. I will keep that in mind. [19:51] dual boot was always a failiure for me [19:52] I've never tried dual booting, but have always wanted to [19:52] it always ruined my installation/caused complications on my attempts [19:53] 0_o [19:53] Alftand: Thank you very much for the advice. I will give it a try and keep my fingers crossed [19:53] Thanks, too, Unit193 [19:53] Sure. [19:53] and b4 u go [19:53] Yeah? [19:53] Alftand_: Generally speaking, install Windows first and there's no problems. [19:53] xubuntu can be a devil with sound and audio [19:53] so remember to come back if u have any problems [19:53] :-) [19:54] Alftand: Will do. :) Thank you! [19:54] :-) [19:54] have a nice day/evening [19:54] depending on timezone [19:54] lol [19:54] Thanks. You too. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === Alftand_ is now known as Alftand [19:59] welcome [20:00] welcome [21:26] Hello guys! I would like to know the differences between ubuntu and xubuntu. I thought they are similar but beside DE i think that also they have different kernel version [21:26] no, the kernel is the same [21:28] DE, default applications, and some default settings. Core is the same, same repos, etc. === SonikkuAmerica is now known as littlebunnyfufu [21:34] knome: Which is the latest kernel version for xubuntu? === littlebunnyfufu is now known as SonikkuAmerc === SonikkuAmerc is now known as SonikkuAmerica [21:34] bagginsDK: Which version of Ubuntu? [21:35] 14.04 [21:36] !info linux-image-generic trusty [21:36] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.48.55 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 29 kB [21:36] !info linux-image-generic-lts-utopic trusty [21:36] (is optional?? What is this, Hurd? :P) [21:36] linux-image-generic-lts-utopic (source: linux-meta-lts-utopic): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.0.33.26 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc) [21:37] SonikkuAmerica: Well, people compile their own kernels for one. I do. [21:38] Granted... [21:41] Hi all. I need help reporting a bug. I'm new on this. Thanks in advance. [21:41] I have xubuntu 14.04 installed but for a unknowned to me reason, i am running the latest kernel after update and upgrade cmds which is 3.13-0.48. [21:41] !but [21:41] !bug [21:41] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [21:42] bagginsDK: That's the default for trusty if you aren't on HWE, right. [21:42] Unit193, but why ubuntu uses 3.16...? [21:43] bagginsDK: Because on that system you are on HWE. [21:43] !hwe [21:43] On August 7, 2014, Ubuntu 12.04.5 will deliver the kernel and graphics stack from 14.04. At that time, security updates and bug fixes for older hardware enablement stacks will cease. Users of older hardware enablement stacks are encouraged to update to the 12.04.5 hardware enablement stack or upgrade to 14.04. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL for further details. [21:44] thanks for the answer, i'm trying to get what package i need to report [21:45] it's a problem with the apps menu. i can describe the problem here if helps. [21:45] i have xfce distro [21:45] xubuntu [21:45] gabriel_: Sure, so we can help you find out what package. [21:47] thanx. when i open apps menu, and then click an app + ESC key, like canceling a dragndrop, appmenu closes [21:47] then click again on appmenu, and dragndrop seems persistant. [21:53] Unit193, i have read the links that you send me but i could not run the cmd which is overcoming this issue. [21:57] bagginsDK: Pardon? [21:57] bagginsDK: If you want to jump to later ones, just install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic. [22:00] Unit193, i thought that it was a issue of my system. I am sorry. But why is there difference between ubuntu and xubuntu? I thought they were the same [22:01] bagginsDK, 00:28 Unit193: DE, default applications, and some default settings. Core is the same, same repos, etc. === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [22:30] xubuntu = xfce - ubuntu = 'unity' desktop - which is a version of gnome [22:31] xfce = the window manager - hence the "x" ubuntu [22:31] diff is mainly the window manager [22:33] xfce is a desktop environment (DE), noy only a window manager