[02:26] <daftykins> tum-te-tum
[03:24] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoytS3930aY - GTA V PC 60fps trailer
[05:00] <mapps> this series american crime is good
[05:13] <mapps> will prob start game of thrones soon;)
[05:14] <daftykins> i've never been into that more fantasy type stuff
[05:16] <mapps> i wasnt interested..but everyone rants and raves about it..so i figure i should check it
[05:16] <mapps> gonna see fast and frious 7 on monday
[05:16] <mapps> O_o
[05:18] <daftykins> lol
[09:46] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:57] <zmoylan-pi> greetings mammals, reptiles, amphibians, bacteria.  but not viruses...
[10:04] <brobostigon> morning zmoylan-pi
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> so has everyone stuffed their faces with easter eggs?
[12:29] <brobostigon> no.
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> holding out till tomorrow when they'll all be on sale? :-P
[12:44] <brobostigon> nah, i dont get chocolate eggs, due to being allergic to cows milk.
[12:45] <zmoylan-pi> no chocolate at all...
[12:45] <brobostigon> they do make chocolate with soya milk/
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> hands up those who think that is chocolate... :-)
[12:50] <shauno> I don't do easter eggs because it feels like there's some rule against buying them for yourself :)
[12:51] <zmoylan-pi> that's why you buy a few for friends and accidently have one left over... :-)
[12:53] <brobostigon> :)
[12:54] <shauno> I did go out to the aran islands though, so the 'holiday weekend' doesn't feel like a complete wash
[12:54] <zmoylan-pi> it's a desolate barren wasteland... :-)
[12:56] <shauno> ah it's fun to go cycle around.  and I met some rather enthusiastic folk from saskatchewan
[12:58] <zmoylan-pi> is it this weekend they have the fr. ted celebration there?
[12:59] <zmoylan-pi> ah, last month
[16:49] <Myrtti> the best usage for a 4K display: watching youtube videos of frying bacon.
[16:49] <Myrtti> well, actually I disagree, the best video so far was mini cooking
[16:54] <Myrtti> pocket cooking 4k
[17:00] <m0nkey_> He likes his new toy, huh?
[17:03] <diddledan> I want new toys
[17:03] <Myrtti> he does.
[17:03] <m0nkey_> I'm waiting for my new PC parts to be delivered. Hopefully they're show up tomorrow.
[17:04] <diddledan> bank holiday here tomorrow
[17:04] <m0nkey_> Not here
[17:04] <m0nkey_> UPS is open tomorrow.
[17:04] <diddledan> bloomin foreigners :-p
[17:04] <Myrtti> expats
[17:04] <Myrtti> or emigrants
[17:04] <diddledan> same diff :-D
[17:04] <diddledan> treehee
[17:04]  * m0nkey_ drools thinking about his i5 and GTX960
[17:05] <diddledan> grr
[17:05] <diddledan> I do fancy myself a titan-x
[17:05] <diddledan> overkill somewhat methinks :-p
[17:06] <m0nkey_> This is everything I ordered. Minus the Windows license.. http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=20107689
[17:06] <m0nkey_> Also, didn't get the RAM or Blu-ray.. Have RAM, have a DVD-burner I'm going to use in the mean time.
[17:07] <zmoylan-pi> no floppy drive? :-)
[17:07] <diddledan> I don't suppose ther mobo has an FDC
[17:07] <zmoylan-pi> 5.25" just to confuse people...
[17:07] <m0nkey_> Only SATA. IDE and AT connections are surprisingly absent.
[17:08] <zmoylan-pi> not connected or anything, just in the front of the case connected to power so it lights up...
[17:08] <directhex> it's 2015.
[17:08] <diddledan> I've got a 5.25" fdd in my c2q machine
[17:08] <zmoylan-pi> so no punch cards!! :-P
[17:08] <directhex> including an IDE connector involves adding an entire PCI bus, to add a PCI IDE controller
[17:09] <m0nkey_> I think I went a little overboard with a 500GB SSD :)
[17:10] <zmoylan-pi> when you could have gotten a 4tb hdd cheaper... :-)
[17:10] <diddledan> I've got an evo 1TB in my desktop
[17:10] <m0nkey_> Heh, that's what the NAS is for.
[17:10] <m0nkey_> Got 4x2TB drives in that
[17:10] <directhex> all of which are discontinued now anyway
[17:26] <shauno> I was actually just looking at a NAS.  I'm not entirely clear on what Synology are trying to do?
[17:26] <shauno> they seem to have a good reputation, but it says it has a dhcp server but not a dhcp client, vpn support, etc .. it seems like it's trying to be more than a disk in a box?
[17:27] <zmoylan-pi> i think all the nas try to be more than a nas these days.
[17:28] <zmoylan-pi> a cpu with delusions of server
[17:30] <m0nkey_> shauno, built my own running FreeNAS
[17:31] <m0nkey_> Depends on how much you want to spend. Yeah, you could spend a crap load on a Synology or QNAP, or it could work out cheaper to build your own. For me, it was the latter.
[17:32] <m0nkey_> Got an E3 Xeon, 16GB ECC, 4x2TB for about the price of a fully loaded Synology.
[17:32] <shauno> I was looking at that, but the mythical cheap hp microservers don't seem to exist here
[17:33] <m0nkey_> Wow, the british pound is a rip-off right now.
[17:34] <m0nkey_> Same box over here is under $400 .. http://www.ebuyer.com/670719-lenovo-thinkserver-ts140-4gb-xeon-e3-1226-v3-3-3ghz-1tb-hdd-tower-server-70a50022uk
[17:34] <zmoylan-pi> strong currency = less exports but great if you want to go on holiday
[17:34] <m0nkey_> This is another box popular with FreeNAS. http://www.ebuyer.com/517760-hp-proliant-gen8-g1610t-microserver-712317-421
[17:35] <shauno> yeah, that's the one I was looking at.  the irish price is quite a bit higher  lol
[17:35] <zmoylan-pi> might have a look around dublin for pi 2 again, and pick up more ammo for my nerfs
[17:35] <m0nkey_> I forgot you're in Ireland now.
[17:36] <shauno> HP list it starting over 500e :/
[17:36] <diddledan> ooh, the microserver has cashback again
[17:37] <shauno> yeah.  that's the other catch.  the cashback thing doesn't run very often here.  not since christmas 2013 :/
[17:37] <diddledan> 119.99 is an awesome deal
[17:37] <shauno> and ebuyer don't deliver to ireland anymore because they're still stamping their feet over the VAT thing :/
[17:37] <diddledan> grr
[17:39] <m0nkey_> shauno, don't you get the 1 quid trips to the UK? :)
[17:40] <shauno> heh, that wouldn't help much .. everything's mail-order these days
[17:40] <shauno> (and HP won't honor the £100 cashback thing here, you have to wait until the irish version is running)
[17:41] <mapps> argh
[17:41] <mapps> i set windows to 'do nothing' when i plug in my android phone..now i cant get it to show the phone as a usb mass storage device..ow can i reset that so when i plug the phone in it opens the drive up in a folder view
[17:44] <mapps> grmpf
[17:44] <diddledan> phones don't default to mass storag3e mode
[17:45] <diddledan> if it's android you need to select the option from the notifications dropdown
[17:45] <mapps> im on windows8..i cant see that
[17:45] <diddledan> pulldown**
[17:45] <mapps> diddledan i mean before whe ni plugged the phone in it came up asking what to do
[17:45] <mapps> i chose do nothing
[17:45] <mapps> oops:P
[17:46] <diddledan> on the phone, not in windows
[17:46] <mapps> yea
[17:46] <mapps> i get what you mean therebut when you plug a phone into a windows machine it has that popup remember saying what do you want to do
[17:46] <mapps> open files etc
[17:47] <diddledan> yes I know
[17:47] <diddledan> that won't magically put the phone in mass storage mode tho
[17:47] <mapps> yea i went to storag and ie ticked media device (mtp)
[17:47] <mapps> but it still doesnt show in windows..it doesnt bring that window up since i clicked do nothing
[17:48] <diddledan> tried using explorer?
[17:48] <mapps> yep
[17:48] <diddledan> 'cos if it's mounted you'll see it there
[17:48] <diddledan> if it ain't then  windows doesn't kno9w what it is
[17:49] <mapps> yea
[17:49] <mapps> because i selected do nothing no?
[17:49] <mapps> gah
[17:49] <mapps> this sucks
[17:49] <diddledan> no
[17:49] <zmoylan-pi> the flaw as i see it is you're using windows... :-)
[17:49] <mapps> well it's set asmedia device (mtp) on the phone
[17:49] <diddledan> do nothing just tells it not to open new windows
[17:50] <diddledan> it'll still mount if it would have shown you that prompt but doesn't because you said not to
[17:50] <diddledan> mtp isn't mass storage
[17:51] <mapps> thought it was
[17:51] <mapps> well then how do i set it as mass storage
[17:51] <diddledan> mtp is a shim because the phone would need to unmount to allow the computer exclusiver access
[17:51] <mapps> i only see
[17:51] <mapps> mtp or ptp]
[17:52] <diddledan> ptp is for photos
[17:52] <diddledan> mtp is for music
[17:52] <mapps> ya
[17:52] <mapps> wheres mass storage option then i see nothing
[17:53] <diddledan> tried prodding the mtp  notice?
[17:53] <mapps> notice? i ticked the tickbox on the android settings and nothing else happens;)
[17:54] <diddledan> have you even looked in the notifications pulldoiwn that I said to at the beginning?
[17:54] <mapps> yea
[17:54] <mapps> nothing there
[17:54] <diddledan> there should be a notice that usb is connected
[17:55] <mapps> honestly nothing
[17:55] <diddledan> if there isn't then usb isn't connected
[17:55] <mapps> its connected to the laptop
[17:55] <mapps> but no notification
[17:56] <mapps> aha
[17:56] <mapps> now it says connected as camera
[17:56] <mapps> yay its working again:DDD
[17:56] <diddledan> what did you change?
[17:57] <mapps> just unplugged cvable a few times
[17:57] <mapps> maybe its just a dodgy cable;/
[17:57] <zmoylan-pi> and logged in as nsa... :-)
[17:57] <mapps> altho it did make the noise that a usb device was plugged in
[17:59] <mapps> but its connected as a media device
[17:59] <mapps> so i cant transfer files
[17:59] <mapps> lol
[18:01] <directhex> you can do mostly arbitrary file transfer over MTP
[18:01] <mapps> hm
[18:01] <directhex> but iirc MSC as an option is gone in stock android
[18:01] <mapps> yea it is
[18:01] <mapps> im just getting pesky errors
[18:01] <mapps> device is disconnected or not responding but i can browse the fs
[18:01] <mapps> and i can use the phone so it is working;)
[18:14] <popey> \o/ mtp
[18:40] <dogmatic69_> eh, you can get steam gift cards at tesco now
[19:40] <penguin42> blade runner is still a great film
[19:44] <zmoylan-pi> which version? :-)
[19:45] <penguin42> final, just seen it in a cinema
[19:46] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, saw it had been rereleased, have it on dvd but might make a pilgramage to see it on big screen
[19:48] <penguin42> yeh, always wanted to see it on the big screen
[19:48] <zmoylan-pi> with good sound system for vangelis soundtrack
[19:49] <penguin42> yes, excellent - and it was digital projection
[19:51] <zmoylan-pi> like 2001 before it set the standard by which scifi was measured and still has resonance today
[19:52] <penguin42> nod
[19:52] <zmoylan-pi> and considering it was done before cgi the effects were excellent
[19:53] <penguin42> actually the cityscapes work great on the big screen which really shows you how well done it is
[21:52] <shauno> silly question, but does steam still work for everyone else?
[21:54] <popey> wfm
[21:55] <shauno> hm.  I keep getting "cannot connect to the steam network"
[21:55] <popey> lemme close / reopen it
[21:55] <zmoylan-pi> maybe a ddos?
[21:55] <popey> hah
[21:55] <popey> you bast
[21:55] <popey> I can't connect now :)
[21:56] <shauno> lol, you're welcome
[21:56] <popey> re-entered my pw and its back in
[21:56] <shauno> this is the problem I'm having.  I don't know my password.  and the recovery bit seems even more out-of-service than the login bit
[21:56] <popey> i spy bigcalm playing games
[21:59] <bigcalm> Is Steam telling tails?
[22:00] <popey> ya
[22:01] <bigcalm> Hopefully it will be saying that I'm playing GTA V on the 14th
[22:02] <bigcalm> E_TOO_MUCH_CHOCOLATE
[22:02]  * bigcalm wanders off to his Easter coma
[22:04] <diddledan> well done, bigcalm
[22:06]  * penguin42 isn't sure such an overflow condition is possible
[22:09]  * bashrc has not consumed much chocolate
[22:12] <Myrtti> our Cities started crashing and got it working by putting Steam on offline mode.
[22:12] <Myrtti> that was weird
[22:12] <Myrtti> happened few hours ago tho
[22:12] <zmoylan-pi> i had some cheap choccy digestives with coffee earlier. was never into easter eggs, they always seem such bad value
[22:12] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: That's why I start hunting them on Tuesday
[22:12] <Myrtti> zmoylan-pi: oh you should try the Finnish Mignon eggs
[22:12] <zmoylan-pi> be careful, a cornered easter egg is dangerous... :-)
[22:12] <Myrtti> unless you're allergic to eggs or hazelnuts
[22:13] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: I can imagine, they're not used to corners
[22:13] <Myrtti> too bad they can't really be found anywhere
[22:13] <zmoylan-pi> i used to like kinder eggs but the toys in them over the last decade have gotten terrible
[22:13] <Myrtti> mignon eggs are hazelnut nougat filled real eggshells
[22:14] <Myrtti> it's like five tablespoons of solid Nutella
[22:14] <Myrtti> well actually it's tastes even better than Nutella
[22:14] <zmoylan-pi> used to be you got tiny parts to assemble but health and safety eliminated those
[22:16] <zmoylan-pi> and they changed the recipie of cadbury creme eggs
[22:20] <popey> 23:01 < bigcalm> Hopefully it will be saying that I'm playing GTA V on the 14th
[22:20] <popey> same
[22:20] <popey> I may take the day off
[22:20] <popey> assuming it downloads ahead of time
[22:20] <popey> also need to consider a new video card
[22:28] <m0nkey_> PCMR still don't have GTA V?
[22:31] <popey> yeah, 9 days
[22:32] <m0nkey_> Heh, I've played through it twice. Once on PS3, then again on PS4. In fact, still play online on PS4. Great fun, you're going to love it!
[22:32] <m0nkey_> I may even triple dip and get for PC too
[22:33] <popey> :)
[22:33] <popey> I've not played at all
[22:33] <popey> Just watched quite a lot of youtubers playing it
[22:33] <m0nkey_> Seriously, you're in for a treat!
[22:34] <popey> \o/
[22:34] <m0nkey_> It's fantastic on PS4, can only imaging what it'll be like on PC.
[22:34]  * m0nkey_ 's PC parts should arrive tomorrow
[22:34] <popey> I have not pre-ordered on steam before
[22:34] <popey> what video card you getting / got?
[22:34] <m0nkey_> Erm..
[22:34] <m0nkey_> ASUS Strix GTX 960
[22:35]  * popey adds to list to look at
[22:35] <m0nkey_> All of this: http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=20107689
[22:35] <m0nkey_> Minus the RAM, Win8.1 and Blu-ray
[22:36] <m0nkey_> I have RAM, I have a DVD-writer. They can wait to be upgraded.
[22:36] <popey> i5, interesting
[22:36] <m0nkey_> The Strix GTX960 is supposed to be almost silent.
[22:36] <m0nkey_> Fans only come on under heavy load
[22:36] <m0nkey_> PSU is also silent
[22:36] <popey> is this to go under telly?
[22:37] <popey> i like the case
[22:37] <m0nkey_> Nope, but it is in the living room, so I want it to be quiet.
[22:37] <m0nkey_> They case is gorgeous! I have that part already.
[22:37] <popey> wise
[22:37] <popey> ooh, bed time
[22:37] <popey> will look at that in the morning, thanks!
[22:37] <m0nkey_> All vents have dust guards
[22:39] <m0nkey_> I may get a 240mm radiator for CPU liquid cooling, but going to start off with stock.
[22:41] <penguin42> I found the stock i7 cooler on my i7-860 (5 years old now ish) was awful - CPU hit 90c, put a decent fan on and it never blinks
[22:46] <m0nkey_> Hmm, Windows 8.1 is $107. It appears to have gone down $12.
[22:46] <m0nkey_> Going to need a Windows license for my Windows only gaming :/
[22:49] <zmoylan-pi> could surround the case with cushions for sound dampening... finally a use for cushions... :-)
[22:50] <zmoylan-pi> does a windows licence give you the right to hunt a windows pc? :-P
[22:50] <m0nkey_> Something like that
[22:51] <webpigeon> Careful it's not an upgrade licence or something
[22:52] <m0nkey_> It's a retail license
[22:52] <m0nkey_> Direct from the MS store
[23:50] <daftykins> m0nkey_: hrmm i wouldn't bother if i were you :P
[23:50] <daftykins> the pirates are getting 10 free! :)
[23:51] <m0nkey_> meh
[23:51] <m0nkey_> there's got to be a catch
[23:52] <daftykins> it is possible that they'll charge a nominal fee, but they've been quite vague about it so far
[23:53] <zmoylan-pi> suspiciously vague
[23:53] <m0nkey_> to be fair, I don't mind paying. had I still be at home, living with my parents, then yeah.. I'd pirate it. But today, I don't mind paying for software where it's warranted.
[23:53] <daftykins> :)
[23:54] <daftykins> i've always bought Windows when there's been a good new version
[23:54] <daftykins> XP back in the day, then 7
[23:54] <m0nkey_> I'm probably the only person in the world that has a legal Office 2010 license
[23:54] <daftykins> i did foolishly get the £20 win8 upgrade but i somewhat regret that
[23:54] <daftykins> haha
[23:54] <zmoylan-pi> windows for workgroups 3.11 :-)
[23:54] <m0nkey_> I think 8.1 is pretty good.
[23:54] <zmoylan-pi> peer to peer networking, printer sharing...
[23:55] <m0nkey_> I bought Windows 7 back when, I bought Windows 8 upgrade when they did the promo. 8 sucked, 8.1 is pretty good.
[23:55] <daftykins> i'm still not very fond since if i lay my finger down on the centre-right of the touchpad, it brings up the charms menu
[23:56] <daftykins> i'm sure there are ways to stop the kinda 'hot zones' but i'm still not fond
[23:56] <zmoylan-pi> charms on windows 8 was unusable, i think they've eliminated them on 10
[23:56] <m0nkey_> anywho.. Win10 will be a free upgrade
[23:56] <daftykins> seems that way yeah
[23:57] <m0nkey_> So, I either buy 8.1 now, or wait till July.
[23:57] <daftykins> indeed! i'm feeling oddly quite excited about 10
[23:57] <daftykins> right time to get some food on :P
[23:57] <m0nkey_> the tech preview is actually pretty good