[02:24] <magespawn>  /window close
[06:33] <Kilos> morning all
[07:16] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[07:16] <Kilos> trello still waiting for your picture
[07:17] <magespawn> good morning Kilos 
[07:17] <Kilos> hows the family lad
[07:17] <Kilos> hard to work away from home hey
[07:19] <magespawn> they all good, some time at home is always good
[07:23] <Kilos> is there a manual to download for the linux thing you studying?
[07:25] <magespawn> i think so
[07:25] <magespawn> let me look
[07:25] <Kilos> ty
[07:26] <Kilos> let me maar try again
[07:26] <Kilos> maybe if we can get our newcomers interested we can get #linux-studies going again
[07:28] <magespawn> linux + has two exams but they are the same as LPI 101
[07:28] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:33] <magespawn> http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.olc.edu%2F~jdudek%2Fdigital-soil%2F2014c-it-303%2Fdocs%2Ftext.pdf&ei=puMgVfKEJcKdsAHxroOYDA&usg=AFQjCNHnRCDxHWy7Uvnwvl4fmwHE_Bp7fQ&bvm=bv.89947451,d.bGg
[07:33] <Kilos> ty
[07:33] <magespawn> whoops
[07:33] <magespawn> found that
[07:33] <Kilos> lol
[07:33] <magespawn> did not realiseitwas so long
[07:34] <Kilos> np manuals are good to have
[07:35] <Kilos> 10 meg is a big manual
[07:38] <magespawn> http://certification.comptia.org/
[07:38] <magespawn> that is the official comptia page
[07:39] <Kilos> ty
[07:40] <Kilos> Maaz  comptia is <reply> http://certification.comptia.org/
[07:40] <Maaz> Kilos: One learns a new thing every day
[07:45] <Kilos> think about how we can attract new youngsters magespawn  
[07:48] <magespawn> to linux or ubuntu-za or both?
[07:49] <Kilos> to us here then we try get them all on #linux-studies and they can help each other
[07:51] <Kilos> from me of course ubuntu first, but linux is what ubuntu is built on so they should all be welcome
[08:00] <magespawn> shower time
[08:00] <magespawn> bbl
[08:54] <magespawn> alrighty
[08:54] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[08:54] <Kilos> you feel better now magespawn  
[08:55] <magespawn> so the keyboard on this laptop has gone and i am now using one of those plugin silcon keyboards
[08:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:56] <Kilos> and a usb mouse?
[08:56] <magespawn> i have removed the main keyboard so you can see the inside of the laptop while is is running
[08:56] <magespawn> no the touchpad still works
[08:56] <Kilos> that will make it easier to blow out dust too
[08:57] <Kilos> they suck those touchpad things
[08:57] <gremble> Good morning ko
[08:57] <gremble> Kilos: 
[08:57] <magespawn> yes. i want to put a clear piece of plastic were the keyboard was 
[08:57] <Kilos> i just fixed 2 crashed hp win lappies and first thing was a usb mouse
[08:57] <magespawn> morning gremble 
[08:58] <gremble> GOod morning magespawn. Has your laptop died?
[08:58] <Kilos> gremble  hows the studies going
[08:58] <magespawn> no just they keyboard
[08:58] <magespawn> s/they/the
[08:58] <gremble> Still break, so I am trying to relax
[08:58] <Kilos> you must move it, we miss our maths kid
[08:58] <gremble> Learning a little Haskell
[08:58] <gremble> While I wait for the guests to arrive
[08:59] <gremble> My baby sister is turning 18 today
[08:59] <Kilos> ah
[08:59] <Kilos> wow my baby sister is 62 next month
[09:00] <gremble> :P I suspect there may be a slight difference in age 
[09:00] <Kilos> ell your sis happy birthday from ubuntu-za
[09:00] <Kilos> tell
[09:00] <gremble> Haha I will do so
[09:01] <magespawn> 18 big step
[09:02] <Kilos> ya everything becomes legal
[09:04] <magespawn> well not everything
[09:04] <gremble> Ya, fairly sure that you aren't allowed to kill someone once you hit 18
[09:05] <gremble> But you are allowed to go to prison for it
[09:05] <magespawn> indeed
[09:05] <Kilos> lol
[09:07] <magespawn> trying to upload a picture so you can see what i mean
[09:08] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co
[09:09] <Kilos> it has a drag and drop function that works for me on the second or third try
[09:09] <Kilos> always stubborn first time
[09:09] <magespawn> right will give it another go
[09:11] <magespawn> http://pasteboard.co/2kO0WQMM.jpg
[09:11] <magespawn> worked second time
[09:11] <Kilos> lol you as bad as me
[09:12] <Kilos> nice pic though
[09:12] <magespawn> why?
[09:12] <Kilos> im sure it works first time for pro and fly
[09:13] <magespawn> i see, maybe it just does not like certain people then
[09:13] <magespawn> no accounting for taste
[09:13] <Kilos> ya me and murphy for starters
[09:13] <magespawn> gremble is there a big party planned?
[09:14] <gremble> Yes. Well, we aren't big party people, so in relation to other social enagements of ours, this is a big party
[09:14] <gremble> There should be about 21 people
[09:14] <magespawn> fairly decent that
[09:14] <Kilos> nice
[09:15] <Kilos> more than enough peeps
[09:15] <gremble> Yup. My sisters friends and their parents  mostly
[09:15] <Kilos> well its her day 
[09:16] <gremble> Ha. My brother did us the discourtesy to invite one of his friends as well
[09:16] <gremble> :P
[09:16] <Kilos> lol
[09:17] <magespawn> will your sister have another without the 'adults' around?
[09:17] <Kilos> lol
[09:17] <gremble> I don't think so. She doesn't care much for that though
[09:17] <gremble> I will probably take her and a friend out later this week
[09:19] <Kilos> magespawn  is this the book you are learning from
[09:21] <magespawn> yes but i think mine might be the up to date version
[09:22] <magespawn> they review the exams every now and then, and set new ones
[09:22] <Kilos> hi Mopkop  wb
[09:22] <Mopkop> Hello!
[09:23] <magespawn> h Mopkop 
[09:23] <magespawn> hi too
[09:23] <Kilos> you should know most of the stuff already magespawn  
[09:23] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[09:24] <Mopkop> Sorry for being so scarce. 
[09:24] <pieter2627> morning all
[09:24] <Mopkop> Hello magespawn pieter2627.
[09:24] <Kilos> you are forgiven lad
[09:24] <Kilos> sorry for bugging you via email
[09:25] <gremble> Good morning pieter2627 Mopkop 
[09:27] <Mopkop> Kilos: No, I was just about to suggest you send me emails if I forget to do something. I use my emails as a to-do list. I am very verstrooid, so I forget easily. In fact when I was in highschool, I once took my schoolbag to church :(
[09:27] <Mopkop> Hello gremble!
[09:27] <gremble> For some reason, the copy/paste buffer on this computer only works with my USB mouse, not with my trackpad
[09:27] <Kilos> lol
[09:27] <gremble> When I go to church I take my schoolbag along
[09:27] <gremble> That way I have something worthwhile to do
[09:28] <Kilos> hey you youngsters
[09:28] <Kilos> we are thinking of reviving our #linux-studies channel
[09:29] <Kilos> anyone interested can join
[09:29] <gremble> For what sort of information/
[09:29] <gremble> And what would set it apart from this channel?
[09:29]  * pieter2627 thinks gremble is very diligent to take so much stationery for sermon notes :P
[09:29] <Kilos> well the peeps there get to choose
[09:29] <Kilos> magespawn  help me man
[09:30] <gremble> "sermon notes"... yes
[09:30] <gremble> I just say use this channel for the linux studies
[09:30] <gremble> I think that it is a good way to liven it up here
[09:30] <gremble> and attract more people
[09:31] <Kilos> so do we all actually but we originally started it to do the lpi courses on
[09:31] <Mopkop> What is lpi?
[09:31] <gremble> Linux Professional Institute>
[09:31] <gremble> I suspect
[09:31] <Kilos> linux professional institute
[09:31] <Kilos> ai! you okes too fast
[09:32] <Mopkop> Maaz google linux professional institute
[09:32] <Maaz> Mopkop: "Linux Professional Institute" https://www.lpi.org/ :: "Certification - Linux Professional Institute Linux Professional Institute" https://www.lpi.org/certification/ :: "LPIC-1 Linux Server Professional - Linux Professional Institute Linux ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-lpi/lpic-1-linux-server-professional/ :: "Linux Professional
[09:32] <Maaz> Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Professional_…
[09:32] <Mopkop> Thank you Maaz, Kilos, gremble.
[09:32] <gremble> Okay, I am going to be afk most of the day
[09:32] <Kilos> enjoy gremble  
[09:32] <Mopkop> Okay, good luck gremble!
[09:33] <Kilos> Maaz  shorten http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.olc.edu%2F~jdudek%2Fdigital-soil%2F2014c-it-303%2Fdocs%2Ftext.pdf&ei=puMgVfKEJcKdsAHxroOYDA&usg=AFQjCNHnRCDxHWy7Uvnwvl4fmwHE_Bp7fQ&bvm=bv.89947451,d.bGg
[09:33] <Maaz> Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/u0TxD5
[09:34] <Kilos> magespawn  is that the linux+ manual?
[09:36] <Kilos> dont make me scroll back then i loose the place where i was reading
[09:39] <Mopkop> I just found something to do after the semester. I finish early then I can start on that lpi thing :)
[09:40] <Kilos> i think we can use #linux_studies for helping noobs that are more noob than me
[09:40] <Mopkop> :) That means me!
[09:41] <Kilos> nono you know lots more than me
[09:41] <pieter2627> Kilos: how many here have completed lpi-c?
[09:41] <Kilos> pieter2627  i dont know but peeps like the fly are far beyond that already
[09:43] <Kilos> but for guys just heading out into the working world it will be a good certificate to add to your cv
[09:44] <Mopkop> Going AFK now too guys. Going to eat at the Roadhouse!
[09:44] <Kilos> i get to where you put all the covers back on your pc and boot it then im lost after that
[09:44] <Kilos> enjoy Mopkop  
[09:44] <pieter2627> ok
[09:44] <pieter2627> Kilos: are you busy with it now?
[09:45] <Kilos> ive just downloaded http://is.gd/u0TxD5
[09:45] <Kilos> magespawn  is doing that now and will write the exam next month i think he said
[09:45] <pieter2627> Mine will me competed in 10min
[09:46] <Kilos> Maaz  comptia
[09:46] <Maaz> http://certification.comptia.org/
[09:47] <Kilos> there are more
[09:47] <Kilos> Maaz  google lpi certification
[09:47] <Maaz> Kilos: "Certification - Linux Professional Institute Linux Professional Institute" https://www.lpi.org/certification/ :: "Linux Professional Institute" https://www.lpi.org/ :: "LPIC-1 Linux Server Professional - Linux Professional Institute Linux ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-lpi/lpic-1-linux-server-professional/ :: "Get Certified with LPI -
[09:47] <Maaz> Linux Professional Institute Linux ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-l…
[09:47] <pieter2627> From the one you linked to yesterday, i figured to do a chapter/sub-module a day
[09:48] <Kilos> Maaz  google lpi2
[09:48] <Maaz> Kilos: "LPIC-2 Linux Network Professional - Linux Professional Institute ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-lpi/lpic-2-linux-network-professional/ :: "The LPIC-2 Exam Prep" http://lpic2.unix.nl/ :: "Syncope Communication Systems GmbH: Linux-Zertifizierung LPI2" http://www.syncope.de/produkte/schulungen/linux-zertifizierung-lpi2.html :: "Emploi du
[09:48] <Maaz> temps Groupe - LPI2@ - IUT MANTES 2014/2015" http://pubedt.uvsq.fr/MAN/g86.html :: "LPI2-…
[09:49] <Kilos> i dont know how the modern world works. if you do lpi2 is it still necessary to do 1 as well
[09:50] <pieter2627> from what i read, it doesn't appear so. But 1 will probably help to complete 2
[09:50] <Kilos> i have no idea
[09:50] <Kilos> the fly and them will be able to anser that
[09:51] <Kilos> but if you do things so fast then go through them all
[09:52] <Kilos> most likely lots from 1 will be repaeted in 2
[09:52] <Kilos> repeated
[09:52] <pieter2627> each is just 1-2 hours long... will probably be longer for me
[09:53] <Kilos> haha i battled for a month on the link i gave yesterday and forgot everything i learned
[09:54] <Kilos> i can learn and do irc mainly
[09:54] <Kilos> did you see my wiki page
[09:54] <pieter2627> no
[09:55] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos
[09:55] <Kilos> im the ultimate domdonner
[09:56] <Kilos> you can look at the flys as well
[09:56] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/superfly
[09:57] <Kilos> its nice to get to know the peeps youre chatting to
[10:00] <pieter2627> hmm... interesting
[10:02] <Kilos> Maaz  linux+ is <reply> http://is.gd/u0TxD5
[10:02] <Maaz> Kilos: One learns a new thing every day
[10:04] <Kilos> moppie proposed merging his work so now we wait for fly to check it then yours comes next
[10:10] <Kilos> our africa venture is moving along
[10:11] <Kilos> oh one reason for using #linux-studies is that i think there could be lots of peeps totally new to linux needing help
[10:12] <Kilos> i know one guy in congo brazzaville that wants to start classes there because everyone is totally raw to linux
[10:12] <pieter2627> ok, will the peeps that already did the lpi-c also be there?
[10:13] <Kilos> fly and pro are there already
[10:13] <pieter2627> ok, wbbl though
[10:13] <Kilos> ok
[11:48] <Mopkop> I'm back :)
[11:48] <Kilos> wb Mopkop  tummy full?
[11:49] <Mopkop> Indeed! Thank you. Couldn't fit half that food in. An least I have enough for dinner too :)
[11:50] <Kilos> lol
[12:01] <Kilos> time for a sunday avy nap then
[12:01] <Mopkop> Good idea! Enjoy!
[12:01] <Kilos> dit is mos, magie vol oe trek toe
[12:02] <Kilos> ogies
[12:02]  * Mopkop yawns
[12:03] <Kilos> haha
[12:29] <magespawn> Kilos kbmonkey also set up a wiki or a website for #linux-studies
[12:56] <magespawn> bbl
[14:31] <Kilos> hi kulelu88  
[14:31]  * Kilos yawns
[14:39] <kulelu88> Hello Kilos 
[14:46] <Kilos> maas tell magespawn What is the link to the monkeys study wiki page ?
[14:46] <Kilos> ai!
[14:47] <Kilos> Maaz  tell magespawn What is the link to the monkeys study wiki page ?
[14:47] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[15:24] <gremble> Sho. What a day
[15:27] <Kilos> lol did you have a good time?
[15:46] <Kilos> inetpro  slaap jy nog
[16:25] <Kilos> eish
[17:07] <inetpro> Happy Easter everyone!
[17:07] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos
[17:08] <inetpro> hmm... and Mopkop and pieter2627 as well
[17:09] <inetpro> why you guys so quiet?
[17:09] <Mopkop> Sorry, was at Church. Happy Easter inetpro!
[17:10] <inetpro> ah, no problem 
[17:10] <inetpro> :-)
[17:10] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[17:10]  * Kilos just eating
[17:10] <inetpro> Mopkop: thanks for the merge proposal
[17:11] <inetpro> now we're just waiting for superfly to come back from easter celebrations 
[17:12] <inetpro> Kilos: enjoy your meal and don't be distracted by us here
[17:15] <inetpro> gremble: you survived the day?
[17:15] <inetpro> wb Neo31
[17:15] <inetpro> Kilos: you have a tough job on your hands
[17:16] <inetpro> gotta be very patient with a team that is out of sync with each other the whole time
[17:17] <pieter2627> thanks inetpro, and to you too
[17:19] <inetpro> pieter2627: I hope you will be ready to make your edits from a fresh trunk as soon as superfly has merged the code from Mopkop
[17:19] <Mopkop> Is this for the Africa, or ZA site?
[17:20] <inetpro> Mopkop: for africa
[17:20] <inetpro> Mopkop: your other one is also outstanding still
[17:20] <inetpro> the fly is a busy man
[17:21] <pieter2627> inetpro: will be ready, but shouldn't a merge pick up the new trunk edits (first time using bzr)?
[17:21] <pieter2627> * merging new trunk after it is available
[17:24] <Kilos> goosie kyk nou
[17:25] <inetpro> pieter2627: I think a merge from trunk should do the trick, but superfly is the one with the experience
[17:25] <Kilos> ya you go to treunk then branch from there to your branch
[17:25] <Kilos> trunk as well
[17:25] <Kilos> inetpro  go mail dammit
[17:26] <pieter2627> inetpro: will ask if i get stuck
[17:26] <inetpro> Kilos: nou werk dit
[17:27] <Kilos> woooo hooooo
[17:30] <inetpro> pieter2627: but I think we'll have to discard or reject your current merge request before we do anything
[17:30] <Kilos> one has to put the to addy in 2 places
[17:30] <Kilos> copy all the code first
[17:31] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[17:31] <Kilos> inetpro  is there a special code of conduct in using them mail addys too or can i make it default
[17:32] <Kilos> ya i had to
[17:32] <Kilos> no what?
[17:32] <inetpro> Kilos: don't confuse matters with multiple conversations all in one
[17:33] <Kilos> im the one that gets confused not you multitaskers
[17:33]  * pieter2627 is rofl
[17:33] <inetpro> Kilos: no, rejection of a merge request does not change your local code, at least not as far as I am aware
[17:34] <Kilos> oh that
[17:34] <inetpro> but nothing wrong with making backups
[17:34] <pieter2627> inetpro: it shouldn't and the remote branch should still be available
[17:35] <inetpro> pieter2627: true
[17:36] <Kilos> may i ask an off topic question?
[17:36] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[17:36] <Kilos> inetpro  what ai!
[17:36] <inetpro> don't ask to ask, just ask
 Kilos: don't confuse matters with multiple conversations all in one
[17:37] <Kilos> make up your mind
[17:37] <Kilos> hasnt lilo been dropped
[17:37] <inetpro> Kilos: all I'm asking is that you make clear what the topic is about :-)
[17:37] <Kilos> hee hee jaja strydom
[17:38] <inetpro> Kilos: yikes, where does that come from?
[17:38] <Kilos> i <3 this channel
[17:38] <inetpro> I mean, the lilo thingy
[17:38] <inetpro> topic*
[17:39] <inetpro> brings back old memories
[17:39] <Kilos> well lilo was in the booting stuffs in lpi and so on when we started that a year ago or so and i seem to remember it was dropped in favour of grub2
[17:39] <inetpro> the days when things were still simple
[17:40] <Kilos> in newer lpi classes i think
[17:40] <Kilos> or is it something else im thinking of
[17:41] <inetpro> Kilos: LILO (LInux LOader) is a boot loader for Linux and was the default boot loader for most Linux distributions in the years after the popularity of loadlin. Today, most distributions use GRUB as the default boot loader.
[17:41] <Kilos> because its still in linux+ and that makes me more confussed
[17:42] <inetpro> Kilos: http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/
[17:42] <Kilos> i cant learn all that stuff, i use boot-repair
[17:43] <Kilos> oi
[17:44] <inetpro> with grub things got much more complicated 
[17:44] <inetpro> then came grub2 and it got even worse
[17:44] <Kilos> oh my
[17:44] <inetpro> and let's not even mention systemd
[17:45] <Kilos> cant i just learn what tools to use for boot probs
[17:46] <Kilos> im never going to write exams
[17:46] <inetpro> you end up needing a underwater helicopter pilot license before you can touch the inners
[17:46] <Kilos> i wonder if boot-repaier can handle it yet
[17:47] <inetpro> Kilos: like you can't touch the inside of a bmw these days
[17:47] <Kilos> or most new cars for that matter
[17:47] <inetpro> exactly
[17:47] <pieter2627> Kilos: and how will one install these 'tools' on a server
[17:48] <Kilos> you run them remotely
[17:49] <pieter2627> doesn't the server still need X for that
[17:49] <Kilos> like add and external with the tools on and boot from it
[17:49] <Kilos> i have no idea
[17:49] <Kilos> peeps like me needs tools to do the work
[17:50] <Kilos> like when i have probs i come here and use the tools here
[17:50] <Kilos> namely mr. fixit and fly
[17:50] <pieter2627> cli is a tool... just a brutal one until one is familiar with it
[17:51] <Kilos> my tools all have names
[17:51] <inetpro> ai!
[17:51] <Kilos> lol
[17:51] <pieter2627> haha (sighing deep inside)
[17:52] <Kilos> ok inetpro  topic change
[17:52] <inetpro> technology changes all the time, and it's not all bad
[17:53] <Kilos> is there a special code of conduct in using them mail addys too or can i make it default
[17:53] <inetpro> just need to stay on top of the game and try to understand the impact of a change and adapt
[17:53] <Kilos> oh thats not the main question
[17:54] <Kilos> ai!
[17:54] <gremble> I think so inetpro 
[17:54] <Kilos> forgot  now
[17:54] <gremble> Apparently we are busy cleaning now
[17:54] <gremble> I thought that it would be quick
[17:54] <inetpro> gremble: well done! :-)
[17:54] <gremble> I don't think I've ever braaied as much meat at a single time 
[17:55] <Kilos> after party clean ups are always a major job
[17:55] <inetpro> Kilos: if all is setup correctly, I'm sure you may go ahead and use it as your default address
[17:55] <inetpro> Kilos: you're a well respected member of the community now
[17:55] <Kilos> ai!
[17:55] <inetpro> after all
[17:56] <gremble> He is?
[17:56] <gremble> I must've missed that
[17:56] <gremble> :P
[17:56] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:56] <inetpro> hmm...
[17:56] <Kilos> he is joking gremble  
[17:56] <inetpro> where's that sjambok?
[17:56] <gremble> Haha
[17:56] <gremble> I was the one joking
[17:56] <gremble> :P
[17:56] <Kilos> dont joke more than one of you at a time i get confused
[17:57] <Kilos> oh ya inetpro  the other question is how do i get thunderbird to find all my email contacts
[17:58]  * inetpro fell off the chair
[17:58] <Kilos> rofl
[17:58] <inetpro> did he really ask something about thunderbird?
[17:59] <gremble> I think so
[17:59] <Kilos> a man has to do what a man has to do
[17:59] <gremble> I use gmail so I have no idea how to use local mail clients
[17:59] <inetpro> sjoe!
[18:00] <Kilos> evo didnt want to do the buntu mail thing so the obvious solution was to try thunderbird
[18:00] <inetpro> Kilos: well done!
[18:00] <Kilos> yaya but how to find all those addresses now
[18:01] <gremble> grep @*someregexhere*
[18:01]  * inetpro hands him his Certificate in Change Leadership
[18:01] <Kilos> ?
[18:02] <Kilos> gremble  do it properly
[18:02] <gremble> Well, I know with outlook, all your adresses are saved in a .pst file
[18:02] <Kilos> not outlook man
[18:03] <Kilos> evolution
[18:03] <gremble> Find the database file that thunderbird uses, get your old database file and copy it over
[18:03] <gremble> Find the file that evolution uses then
[18:03] <inetpro> Kilos: successful leaders take a holistic approach to organizational change :-)
[18:04] <gremble> inetpro seems to have swallowed a zen manual to self-enlightement and organizational development
[18:04] <inetpro> lol
[18:04] <gremble> Be at one with your worker drones
[18:04] <Kilos> nono inetpro  your job is YOUR job
[18:04] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, ok.... I was just joking
[18:04] <Kilos> whew
[18:05] <inetpro> at least gremble is trying to help you
[18:05] <inetpro> Kilos: you should be able to export addresses from evolution
[18:05] <inetpro> in a format that thunderbird can import
[18:06] <gremble> ^ this is advice much more sane than mine
[18:06] <gremble> You can see that I haven't done much computer related things for quite a while
[18:06] <gremble> This weekend I actually installed a computer game on my desktop
[18:06] <gremble> :O
[18:06] <Kilos> lol
[18:06] <gremble> For the first time in years
[18:07] <inetpro> Kilos: look for articles like: How To Migrate From Evolution To Thunderbird In Ubuntu Intrepid http://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-migrate-from-evolution-to-thunderbird-in-ubuntu-intrepid
[18:07] <inetpro> obviously that is old, but perhaps still relevant
[18:08] <Kilos> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail
[18:08] <gremble> Luckily things like thunderbird are always old because people are averse to change
[18:08] <Kilos> see i did use google too
[18:08] <gremble> So it should still be relevent
[18:08] <gremble> debian for the win
[18:08] <gremble> :P
[18:08] <inetpro> ai!
[18:08] <gremble> I lie
[18:09] <gremble> I don't like debian
[18:09] <gremble> well.. it's fine
[18:09] <gremble> haha
[18:09] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[18:09] <Kilos> sis man gremble  
[18:09] <Kilos> deb  stuff rocks
[18:10] <inetpro> gremble: you joined the RPM crew?
[18:10] <Kilos> eeek
[18:10] <gremble> On a software platform where things change so quickly, I prefer having newer things at the expense of having to work through breakages
[18:10] <gremble> If I had to manage servers, I would be BSD and debian for ever
[18:10] <gremble> no inetpro. arch for me
[18:11] <gremble> Although I may try out voidlinux if I get a new laptop
[18:13] <Kilos> that looks like a good link you gave ty inetpro  drag and drop rocks
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: here a link from mozilla support: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/switching-thunderbird#w_switching-from-evolution-to-thunderbird
[18:17] <Kilos> ty inetpro  
[18:24] <inetpro> ai!
[18:25] <inetpro> the poor super fly has a migraine
[18:26] <Kilos> ai!
[18:26] <Kilos> sleep it off superfly  
[18:37] <inetpro> pieter2627: I found the following interesting bits about code reviews
[18:37] <inetpro> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review
[18:46] <pieter2627> inetpro: interesting, so mine will be marked as "Needs Fixing" after the other merge
[18:49] <inetpro> pieter2627: I guess so, but will rather wait for superfly to advise
[18:49] <pieter2627> yip
[18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: you have the permission to continue talking
[18:56] <Kilos> oh my
[18:57] <Kilos> what needs fixing already
[18:58] <inetpro> wb captine
[18:59] <inetpro> Kilos: his code needs to be based on trunk
[18:59] <inetpro> but it needs to be based on an updated trunk
[18:59] <Kilos> hi captine  
[19:00] <Kilos> ya so that means when moppies stuff gets updated then piet makes a branch from there right
[19:00] <Kilos> from trunk that is
[19:04] <inetpro> Kilos: yes, but 
[19:05] <inetpro> I think it might be as simple as merging the updated trunk into his branch rather than the usual way to merge a branch into trunk
[19:05] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:06] <Kilos> no man fly said branch from trunk so do it that way
[19:06] <Kilos> just copy all the code into the new branch
[19:06] <inetpro> pieter2627: make sure you check bzr log before and after if you do it that way
[19:06] <Kilos> then propose it
[19:07] <inetpro> will actually be interesting to see 
[19:07] <inetpro> pieter2627: have you installed qbzr?
[19:09] <inetpro> Mopkop, pieter2627: are the two of you available tomorrow?
[19:10] <Mopkop> inetpro: Maybe in the evening?
[19:10] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:10] <pieter2627> yes (to both)
[19:10] <inetpro> pieter2627: cool
[19:11] <Kilos> very cool
[19:11] <pieter2627> also installed code explorer
[19:11] <inetpro> code explorer?
[19:12] <pieter2627> * bazaar explorer
[19:12] <inetpro> pieter2627: isn't that the same as qbzr?
[19:13] <pieter2627> inetpro: could be, just could figure out how to open qbzr
[19:13] <pieter2627> * could not
[19:14] <Kilos> pieter2627  are you learning from being involved in this projetc?
[19:14] <Kilos> project as well
[19:14] <inetpro> pieter2627: how did you install it?
[19:14] <pieter2627> Kilos: bzr yes
[19:14] <pieter2627> inetpro: which one
[19:14] <Kilos> good 
[19:15] <inetpro> bazaar explorer
[19:15] <pieter2627> sudo apt-get install bzr-explorer
[19:16] <pieter2627> inetpro: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/explorer/en/visual-tour-gnome.html
[19:16] <inetpro> ah, thanks
[19:16]  * inetpro installing it now
[19:17] <Kilos> with aptitude?
[19:17] <pieter2627> inetpro: it's just a gui to bzr
[19:18]  * inetpro just had qbzr installed 
[19:18] <inetpro> was exploring logs with 'bzr qlog'
[19:19] <inetpro> pieter2627: so how do you execute this thing?
[19:20] <inetpro> oh I see there's something in the menus now
[19:21] <pieter2627> inetpro: found it?
[19:21] <inetpro> ahh, I see it's just 'bzr explorer'
[19:22] <pieter2627> yea, that also seems to work
[19:24] <inetpro> hmm... 
[19:24]  * inetpro still prefers the cli
[19:24] <inetpro> and bzr qlog on the odd occasion
[19:24] <inetpro> or bzr qcommit
[19:25] <inetpro> but I guess the GUI can be handy
[19:28] <pieter2627> the windows for those clis is strangely exactly the same as the ones 'bzr explorer' opens (for me at least)
[19:34] <kulelu88> hey pieter2627. you new here?
[19:34] <inetpro> wb kulelu88
[19:34] <Kilos> haha you slow kulelu88  
[19:35] <inetpro> Mopkop, pieter2627: I was just thinking
[19:35] <Kilos> hes been working already
[19:35] <inetpro> in stead of wasting everybody's time, maybe I should just do the merging now
[19:35] <inetpro> if it's wrong superfly can just reverse it again
[19:36] <inetpro> Mopkop: you still here?
[19:36] <Mopkop> inetpro: Sounds like a good idea. I mean it is revision-based, so we can just revert if something broke.
[19:36] <inetpro> exactly
[19:38] <kulelu88> inetpro: you can reverse it yourself also. this is what version control is for, to easily correct mistakes
[19:39] <inetpro> kulelu88: now why you only say that now?
[19:39] <pieter2627> is it safe to revert trunk (know reverting master in git can cause issues)?
[19:39] <Mopkop> I'll back it up on my computer in case. 
[19:40] <kulelu88> you guys should be keeping a stable branch (aka master) and working on a branch like "devel"
[19:41] <pieter2627> no. i mean if someone were to branch of the new trunk and it then get reverted then the reverted commit will be back in if this new branch get merged, right?
[19:41] <Mopkop> Deja-dup does a very good job with that. You can just right-click a folder and tell it to go back to a previous version.
[19:43] <kulelu88> I are now attempting to rewrite a dockerfile for use with ubuntu
[19:43] <inetpro> you guys can do a bzr update of the trunk on your side
[19:43] <inetpro> pieter2627: you got that?
[19:43] <pieter2627> kulelu88: i guess i am new
[19:44] <pieter2627> inetpro: yes, starting
[19:45] <kulelu88> great to have you pieter2627 . Are you n oom of n seun?
[19:45] <Kilos> lol
[19:46] <pieter2627> kulelu88: definitely a seun (although my cousins kids sometimes call me oom - very embarising)
[19:47] <inetpro> lol
[19:49] <Kilos> haha
[19:49] <Kilos> see kulelu88  you snooze you lose
[19:51] <Kilos> i go make coffee
[19:51] <kulelu88> what do you guys think of living abroad? Somewhere warm?
[19:51] <Kilos> tropical island ya
[19:52] <Kilos> with undersea fibre
[19:52] <kulelu88> even with shitty internet, I'm looking at a few places.
[19:55] <Kilos> like where?
[19:56] <kulelu88> mostly warmish climates like east asi
[19:57] <kulelu88> asia
[19:57] <Kilos> make friends first then its easier
[19:57] <kulelu88> ja true
[20:04] <inetpro> Kilos: you see I'm in trouble now
[20:04] <inetpro> all your fault :-)
[20:05] <Kilos> ya i got the mails inetpro  but why are you in trouble
[20:05] <inetpro> Kilos: what mails?
[20:05] <Kilos> about merges ans so on
[20:05] <Kilos> and
[20:05] <inetpro> oh, check on Trello
[20:05] <Kilos> but why would you be in trouble
[20:06] <Kilos> i get emails reminding me of trello changes
[20:06] <inetpro> Kilos: I didn't add you on the card for Mopkop's merge
[20:06] <Kilos> uh oh
[20:07] <Kilos> im reading
[20:07] <Mopkop> What happened to the picture on the home page?
[20:07] <inetpro> poor dude's migraine is killing him and I'm spamming him with notices
[20:08] <Kilos> eish
[20:08] <Kilos> the home page must still all work\
[20:08] <Kilos> all the refreshes etc
[20:08] <Kilos> jumbo only hides in later pages
[20:09] <inetpro> Mopkop: it's working for me
[20:09] <Mopkop> No, bzr did not merge the files. I mean I put a map of Africa and stuff on the front-page. 
[20:09] <Mopkop> I think it did not commit it.
[20:09] <Kilos> oh Mopkop  we were discussing the map thing
[20:10] <Mopkop> Under files there should be 3 pictures
[20:10] <Kilos> is that supposed to be a button to show map?
[20:10] <inetpro> Mopkop: no, that was not part of your branch
[20:11] <Mopkop> hmmm, wasn't happy with the homepage anyway.
[20:11] <Mopkop> How do I tell bzr to include a directory in the branch if I push?
[20:12] <Mopkop> I think it has something to do with 'working-tree'.
[20:13] <pieter2627> ah, that's why there are small 'headings' above the headings - couldn't figure why they were there
[20:13] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:14] <Mopkop> I knew I shouldn't have stolen code from the ubuntu-za site.
[20:16] <pieter2627> 'bzr add' seems to be suppose to add files and directories
[20:17]  * Mopkop is reading the manpages too.
[20:17] <Mopkop> Let's try that.
[20:18] <inetpro> Mopkop: wait
[20:18] <inetpro> let's get pieter2627's code into trunk before you continue
[20:18] <Mopkop> inetpro: Yes-yes, I know, I've learned to wait for you. Don't want to delete python again...
[20:18] <Kilos> lol
[20:18] <inetpro> :-)
[20:19] <pieter2627> inetpro: i left a comment on the merge request
[20:20] <inetpro> pieter2627: ah, ok
[20:21] <inetpro> let's wait for the fly to recover from his migraine
[20:21] <inetpro> hopefully he'll be fine in the morning
[20:22] <pieter2627> sounds good, will see again tomorrow. night all
[20:22] <Kilos> night pieter2627  sleep tight
[20:23] <inetpro> Kilos: if you are interested in receiving notifications of that card just drag your avatar in there
[20:23] <inetpro> good night pieter2627
[20:23] <Kilos> i just ticked subscribe inetpro  
[20:23] <Kilos> that mails me i think
[20:23] <inetpro> yeah, that should do it
[20:24] <Kilos> if i drag me there you make me work
[20:24] <inetpro> I added the others because they are involved regardless
[20:24] <Kilos> yes and i really break things
[20:25] <Kilos> so better i look from a distance
[20:25] <inetpro> no man
[20:25] <Kilos> yes man
[20:26] <Kilos> everything is gone out of head after all the time trying to get my mail alias working
[20:26] <inetpro> haha 
[20:26]  * inetpro somehoe don't believe that
[20:26] <inetpro> somehow*
[20:26] <Kilos> sigh
[20:40] <Mopkop> Nag mense. Ek sal kyk of ek môre aand kan opkom. Moet net eers 'n taak klaar maak, wat eintlik Donderdag moes in. 
[20:40] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:42] <Kilos> inetpro  evohas changed somewhat, i dont see the folders they say should be there but pleased dont bother now
[20:43] <Kilos> you should be ready for bed
[20:46] <inetpro> Kilos: you really want to import the mails as well?
[20:46] <Kilos> no i want all the peeps details
[20:47] <Kilos> i have many addresses in evo that i aint got energy to write down to transfer
[20:48] <inetpro> Kilos: there are two steps in the process, 1) Importing Evolution Messages, and 2) Importing Evolution Contacts
[20:48] <inetpro> if I was you I would only focus on step 2
[20:49] <Kilos> ok lemme look more ty
[20:51] <Kilos> ah that looks easy enough. will do it tomorrow i think
[20:52] <inetpro> you're welcome
[21:02] <Kilos> ai! stupid thunderbird sending trello messages to 2 gmail addies
[21:02] <Kilos> grrr
[21:09] <inetpro> uh
[21:09] <Kilos> lol
[21:09] <inetpro> Kilos: please explain
[21:10] <Kilos> some messages go to domdonner and others to ms.kilos
[21:10] <Kilos> and i cant find the extension morefunctionsforaddressbook
[21:11] <Kilos> its supposed to be in extensions but there are none that show
[21:11] <Kilos> grrr
[21:25] <inetpro> Kilos: why do you want that extension?
[21:25] <Kilos> ah adding thunderbird-dev added more stuff
[21:25] <Kilos> thats the extension that can import vcard info from evo
[21:25] <inetpro> oh
[21:25] <Kilos> but too tired now
[21:26] <Kilos> sleep tight inetpro  and other owls
[21:26]  * inetpro learns a new thing every day
[21:26] <Kilos> lol
[21:26] <inetpro> good night Kilos
[21:34] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos please note that the latest version of Thunderbird is Version 31.6.0. The morefunctionsforaddressbook extension still mentions still refers to Thunderbird 3.0 which goes back to 2010. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird#Releases
[21:34] <Maaz> inetpro: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[21:35] <inetpro> ai!