[02:24] /window close [06:33] morning all [07:16] hi magespawn [07:16] trello still waiting for your picture [07:17] good morning Kilos [07:17] hows the family lad [07:17] hard to work away from home hey [07:19] they all good, some time at home is always good [07:23] is there a manual to download for the linux thing you studying? [07:25] i think so [07:25] let me look [07:25] ty [07:26] let me maar try again [07:26] maybe if we can get our newcomers interested we can get #linux-studies going again [07:28] linux + has two exams but they are the same as LPI 101 [07:28] sjoe [07:33] http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.olc.edu%2F~jdudek%2Fdigital-soil%2F2014c-it-303%2Fdocs%2Ftext.pdf&ei=puMgVfKEJcKdsAHxroOYDA&usg=AFQjCNHnRCDxHWy7Uvnwvl4fmwHE_Bp7fQ&bvm=bv.89947451,d.bGg [07:33] ty [07:33] whoops [07:33] found that [07:33] lol [07:33] did not realiseitwas so long [07:34] np manuals are good to have [07:35] 10 meg is a big manual [07:38] http://certification.comptia.org/ [07:38] that is the official comptia page [07:39] ty [07:40] Maaz comptia is http://certification.comptia.org/ [07:40] Kilos: One learns a new thing every day [07:45] think about how we can attract new youngsters magespawn [07:48] to linux or ubuntu-za or both? [07:49] to us here then we try get them all on #linux-studies and they can help each other [07:51] from me of course ubuntu first, but linux is what ubuntu is built on so they should all be welcome [08:00] shower time [08:00] bbl [08:54] alrighty [08:54] hi gremble [08:54] you feel better now magespawn [08:55] so the keyboard on this laptop has gone and i am now using one of those plugin silcon keyboards [08:55] sjoe [08:56] and a usb mouse? [08:56] i have removed the main keyboard so you can see the inside of the laptop while is is running [08:56] no the touchpad still works [08:56] that will make it easier to blow out dust too [08:57] they suck those touchpad things [08:57] Good morning ko [08:57] Kilos: [08:57] yes. i want to put a clear piece of plastic were the keyboard was [08:57] i just fixed 2 crashed hp win lappies and first thing was a usb mouse [08:57] morning gremble [08:58] GOod morning magespawn. Has your laptop died? [08:58] gremble hows the studies going [08:58] no just they keyboard [08:58] s/they/the [08:58] Still break, so I am trying to relax [08:58] you must move it, we miss our maths kid [08:58] Learning a little Haskell [08:58] While I wait for the guests to arrive [08:59] My baby sister is turning 18 today [08:59] ah [08:59] wow my baby sister is 62 next month [09:00] :P I suspect there may be a slight difference in age [09:00] ell your sis happy birthday from ubuntu-za [09:00] tell [09:00] Haha I will do so [09:01] 18 big step [09:02] ya everything becomes legal [09:04] well not everything [09:04] Ya, fairly sure that you aren't allowed to kill someone once you hit 18 [09:05] But you are allowed to go to prison for it [09:05] indeed [09:05] lol [09:07] trying to upload a picture so you can see what i mean [09:08] http://pasteboard.co [09:09] it has a drag and drop function that works for me on the second or third try [09:09] always stubborn first time [09:09] right will give it another go [09:11] http://pasteboard.co/2kO0WQMM.jpg [09:11] worked second time [09:11] lol you as bad as me [09:12] nice pic though [09:12] why? [09:12] im sure it works first time for pro and fly [09:13] i see, maybe it just does not like certain people then [09:13] no accounting for taste [09:13] ya me and murphy for starters [09:13] gremble is there a big party planned? [09:14] Yes. Well, we aren't big party people, so in relation to other social enagements of ours, this is a big party [09:14] There should be about 21 people [09:14] fairly decent that [09:14] nice [09:15] more than enough peeps [09:15] Yup. My sisters friends and their parents mostly [09:15] well its her day [09:16] Ha. My brother did us the discourtesy to invite one of his friends as well [09:16] :P [09:16] lol [09:17] will your sister have another without the 'adults' around? [09:17] lol [09:17] I don't think so. She doesn't care much for that though [09:17] I will probably take her and a friend out later this week [09:19] magespawn is this the book you are learning from [09:21] yes but i think mine might be the up to date version [09:22] they review the exams every now and then, and set new ones [09:22] hi Mopkop wb [09:22] Hello! [09:23] h Mopkop [09:23] hi too [09:23] you should know most of the stuff already magespawn [09:23] hi pieter2627 [09:24] Sorry for being so scarce. [09:24] morning all [09:24] Hello magespawn pieter2627. [09:24] you are forgiven lad [09:24] sorry for bugging you via email [09:25] Good morning pieter2627 Mopkop [09:27] Kilos: No, I was just about to suggest you send me emails if I forget to do something. I use my emails as a to-do list. I am very verstrooid, so I forget easily. In fact when I was in highschool, I once took my schoolbag to church :( [09:27] Hello gremble! [09:27] For some reason, the copy/paste buffer on this computer only works with my USB mouse, not with my trackpad [09:27] lol [09:27] When I go to church I take my schoolbag along [09:27] That way I have something worthwhile to do [09:28] hey you youngsters [09:28] we are thinking of reviving our #linux-studies channel [09:29] anyone interested can join [09:29] For what sort of information/ [09:29] And what would set it apart from this channel? [09:29] * pieter2627 thinks gremble is very diligent to take so much stationery for sermon notes :P [09:29] well the peeps there get to choose [09:29] magespawn help me man [09:30] "sermon notes"... yes [09:30] I just say use this channel for the linux studies [09:30] I think that it is a good way to liven it up here [09:30] and attract more people [09:31] so do we all actually but we originally started it to do the lpi courses on [09:31] What is lpi? [09:31] Linux Professional Institute> [09:31] I suspect [09:31] linux professional institute [09:31] ai! you okes too fast [09:32] Maaz google linux professional institute [09:32] Mopkop: "Linux Professional Institute" https://www.lpi.org/ :: "Certification - Linux Professional Institute Linux Professional Institute" https://www.lpi.org/certification/ :: "LPIC-1 Linux Server Professional - Linux Professional Institute Linux ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-lpi/lpic-1-linux-server-professional/ :: "Linux Professional [09:32] Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Professional_… [09:32] Thank you Maaz, Kilos, gremble. [09:32] Okay, I am going to be afk most of the day [09:32] enjoy gremble [09:32] Okay, good luck gremble! [09:33] Maaz shorten http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.olc.edu%2F~jdudek%2Fdigital-soil%2F2014c-it-303%2Fdocs%2Ftext.pdf&ei=puMgVfKEJcKdsAHxroOYDA&usg=AFQjCNHnRCDxHWy7Uvnwvl4fmwHE_Bp7fQ&bvm=bv.89947451,d.bGg [09:33] Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/u0TxD5 [09:34] magespawn is that the linux+ manual? [09:36] dont make me scroll back then i loose the place where i was reading [09:39] I just found something to do after the semester. I finish early then I can start on that lpi thing :) [09:40] i think we can use #linux_studies for helping noobs that are more noob than me [09:40] :) That means me! [09:41] nono you know lots more than me [09:41] Kilos: how many here have completed lpi-c? [09:41] pieter2627 i dont know but peeps like the fly are far beyond that already [09:43] but for guys just heading out into the working world it will be a good certificate to add to your cv [09:44] Going AFK now too guys. Going to eat at the Roadhouse! [09:44] i get to where you put all the covers back on your pc and boot it then im lost after that [09:44] enjoy Mopkop [09:44] ok [09:44] Kilos: are you busy with it now? [09:45] ive just downloaded http://is.gd/u0TxD5 [09:45] magespawn is doing that now and will write the exam next month i think he said [09:45] Mine will me competed in 10min [09:46] Maaz comptia [09:46] http://certification.comptia.org/ [09:47] there are more [09:47] Maaz google lpi certification [09:47] Kilos: "Certification - Linux Professional Institute Linux Professional Institute" https://www.lpi.org/certification/ :: "Linux Professional Institute" https://www.lpi.org/ :: "LPIC-1 Linux Server Professional - Linux Professional Institute Linux ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-lpi/lpic-1-linux-server-professional/ :: "Get Certified with LPI - [09:47] Linux Professional Institute Linux ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-l… [09:47] From the one you linked to yesterday, i figured to do a chapter/sub-module a day [09:48] Maaz google lpi2 [09:48] Kilos: "LPIC-2 Linux Network Professional - Linux Professional Institute ..." https://www.lpi.org/certification/get-certified-lpi/lpic-2-linux-network-professional/ :: "The LPIC-2 Exam Prep" http://lpic2.unix.nl/ :: "Syncope Communication Systems GmbH: Linux-Zertifizierung LPI2" http://www.syncope.de/produkte/schulungen/linux-zertifizierung-lpi2.html :: "Emploi du [09:48] temps Groupe - LPI2@ - IUT MANTES 2014/2015" http://pubedt.uvsq.fr/MAN/g86.html :: "LPI2-… [09:49] i dont know how the modern world works. if you do lpi2 is it still necessary to do 1 as well [09:50] from what i read, it doesn't appear so. But 1 will probably help to complete 2 [09:50] i have no idea [09:50] the fly and them will be able to anser that [09:51] but if you do things so fast then go through them all [09:52] most likely lots from 1 will be repaeted in 2 [09:52] repeated [09:52] each is just 1-2 hours long... will probably be longer for me [09:53] haha i battled for a month on the link i gave yesterday and forgot everything i learned [09:54] i can learn and do irc mainly [09:54] did you see my wiki page [09:54] no [09:55] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos [09:55] im the ultimate domdonner [09:56] you can look at the flys as well [09:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/superfly [09:57] its nice to get to know the peeps youre chatting to [10:00] hmm... interesting [10:02] Maaz linux+ is http://is.gd/u0TxD5 [10:02] Kilos: One learns a new thing every day [10:04] moppie proposed merging his work so now we wait for fly to check it then yours comes next [10:10] our africa venture is moving along [10:11] oh one reason for using #linux-studies is that i think there could be lots of peeps totally new to linux needing help [10:12] i know one guy in congo brazzaville that wants to start classes there because everyone is totally raw to linux [10:12] ok, will the peeps that already did the lpi-c also be there? [10:13] fly and pro are there already [10:13] ok, wbbl though [10:13] ok [11:48] I'm back :) [11:48] wb Mopkop tummy full? [11:49] Indeed! Thank you. Couldn't fit half that food in. An least I have enough for dinner too :) [11:50] lol [12:01] time for a sunday avy nap then [12:01] Good idea! Enjoy! [12:01] dit is mos, magie vol oe trek toe [12:02] ogies [12:02] * Mopkop yawns [12:03] haha [12:29] Kilos kbmonkey also set up a wiki or a website for #linux-studies [12:56] bbl [14:31] hi kulelu88 [14:31] * Kilos yawns [14:39] Hello Kilos [14:46] maas tell magespawn What is the link to the monkeys study wiki page ? [14:46] ai! [14:47] Maaz tell magespawn What is the link to the monkeys study wiki page ? [14:47] Kilos: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [15:24] Sho. What a day [15:27] lol did you have a good time? [15:46] inetpro slaap jy nog [16:25] eish [17:07] Happy Easter everyone! [17:07] oh and hi Kilos [17:08] hmm... and Mopkop and pieter2627 as well [17:09] why you guys so quiet? [17:09] Sorry, was at Church. Happy Easter inetpro! [17:10] ah, no problem [17:10] :-) [17:10] hi inetpro [17:10] * Kilos just eating [17:10] Mopkop: thanks for the merge proposal [17:11] now we're just waiting for superfly to come back from easter celebrations [17:12] Kilos: enjoy your meal and don't be distracted by us here [17:15] gremble: you survived the day? [17:15] wb Neo31 [17:15] Kilos: you have a tough job on your hands [17:16] gotta be very patient with a team that is out of sync with each other the whole time [17:17] thanks inetpro, and to you too [17:19] pieter2627: I hope you will be ready to make your edits from a fresh trunk as soon as superfly has merged the code from Mopkop [17:19] Is this for the Africa, or ZA site? [17:20] Mopkop: for africa [17:20] Mopkop: your other one is also outstanding still [17:20] the fly is a busy man [17:21] inetpro: will be ready, but shouldn't a merge pick up the new trunk edits (first time using bzr)? [17:21] * merging new trunk after it is available [17:24] goosie kyk nou [17:25] pieter2627: I think a merge from trunk should do the trick, but superfly is the one with the experience [17:25] ya you go to treunk then branch from there to your branch [17:25] trunk as well [17:25] inetpro go mail dammit [17:26] inetpro: will ask if i get stuck [17:26] Kilos: nou werk dit [17:27] woooo hooooo [17:30] pieter2627: but I think we'll have to discard or reject your current merge request before we do anything [17:30] one has to put the to addy in 2 places [17:30] copy all the code first [17:31] Kilos: no [17:31] inetpro is there a special code of conduct in using them mail addys too or can i make it default [17:32] ya i had to [17:32] no what? [17:32] Kilos: don't confuse matters with multiple conversations all in one [17:33] im the one that gets confused not you multitaskers [17:33] * pieter2627 is rofl [17:33] Kilos: no, rejection of a merge request does not change your local code, at least not as far as I am aware [17:34] oh that [17:34] but nothing wrong with making backups [17:34] inetpro: it shouldn't and the remote branch should still be available [17:35] pieter2627: true [17:36] may i ask an off topic question? [17:36] Kilos: ai! [17:36] inetpro what ai! [17:36] don't ask to ask, just ask [17:37] Kilos: don't confuse matters with multiple conversations all in one [17:37] make up your mind [17:37] hasnt lilo been dropped [17:37] Kilos: all I'm asking is that you make clear what the topic is about :-) [17:37] hee hee jaja strydom [17:38] Kilos: yikes, where does that come from? [17:38] i <3 this channel [17:38] I mean, the lilo thingy [17:38] topic* [17:39] brings back old memories [17:39] well lilo was in the booting stuffs in lpi and so on when we started that a year ago or so and i seem to remember it was dropped in favour of grub2 [17:39] the days when things were still simple [17:40] in newer lpi classes i think [17:40] or is it something else im thinking of [17:41] Kilos: LILO (LInux LOader) is a boot loader for Linux and was the default boot loader for most Linux distributions in the years after the popularity of loadlin. Today, most distributions use GRUB as the default boot loader. [17:41] because its still in linux+ and that makes me more confussed [17:42] Kilos: http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/ [17:42] i cant learn all that stuff, i use boot-repair [17:43] oi [17:44] with grub things got much more complicated [17:44] then came grub2 and it got even worse [17:44] oh my [17:44] and let's not even mention systemd [17:45] cant i just learn what tools to use for boot probs [17:46] im never going to write exams [17:46] you end up needing a underwater helicopter pilot license before you can touch the inners [17:46] i wonder if boot-repaier can handle it yet [17:47] Kilos: like you can't touch the inside of a bmw these days [17:47] or most new cars for that matter [17:47] exactly [17:47] Kilos: and how will one install these 'tools' on a server [17:48] you run them remotely [17:49] doesn't the server still need X for that [17:49] like add and external with the tools on and boot from it [17:49] i have no idea [17:49] peeps like me needs tools to do the work [17:50] like when i have probs i come here and use the tools here [17:50] namely mr. fixit and fly [17:50] cli is a tool... just a brutal one until one is familiar with it [17:51] my tools all have names [17:51] ai! [17:51] lol [17:51] haha (sighing deep inside) [17:52] ok inetpro topic change [17:52] technology changes all the time, and it's not all bad [17:53] is there a special code of conduct in using them mail addys too or can i make it default [17:53] just need to stay on top of the game and try to understand the impact of a change and adapt [17:53] oh thats not the main question [17:54] ai! [17:54] I think so inetpro [17:54] forgot now [17:54] Apparently we are busy cleaning now [17:54] I thought that it would be quick [17:54] gremble: well done! :-) [17:54] I don't think I've ever braaied as much meat at a single time [17:55] after party clean ups are always a major job [17:55] Kilos: if all is setup correctly, I'm sure you may go ahead and use it as your default address [17:55] Kilos: you're a well respected member of the community now [17:55] ai! [17:55] after all [17:56] He is? [17:56] I must've missed that [17:56] :P [17:56] hahaha [17:56] hmm... [17:56] he is joking gremble [17:56] where's that sjambok? [17:56] Haha [17:56] I was the one joking [17:56] :P [17:56] dont joke more than one of you at a time i get confused [17:57] oh ya inetpro the other question is how do i get thunderbird to find all my email contacts [17:58] * inetpro fell off the chair [17:58] rofl [17:58] did he really ask something about thunderbird? [17:59] I think so [17:59] a man has to do what a man has to do [17:59] I use gmail so I have no idea how to use local mail clients [17:59] sjoe! [18:00] evo didnt want to do the buntu mail thing so the obvious solution was to try thunderbird [18:00] Kilos: well done! [18:00] yaya but how to find all those addresses now [18:01] grep @*someregexhere* [18:01] * inetpro hands him his Certificate in Change Leadership [18:01] ? [18:02] gremble do it properly [18:02] Well, I know with outlook, all your adresses are saved in a .pst file [18:02] not outlook man [18:03] evolution [18:03] Find the database file that thunderbird uses, get your old database file and copy it over [18:03] Find the file that evolution uses then [18:03] Kilos: successful leaders take a holistic approach to organizational change :-) [18:04] inetpro seems to have swallowed a zen manual to self-enlightement and organizational development [18:04] lol [18:04] Be at one with your worker drones [18:04] nono inetpro your job is YOUR job [18:04] Kilos: ok, ok.... I was just joking [18:04] whew [18:05] at least gremble is trying to help you [18:05] Kilos: you should be able to export addresses from evolution [18:05] in a format that thunderbird can import [18:06] ^ this is advice much more sane than mine [18:06] You can see that I haven't done much computer related things for quite a while [18:06] This weekend I actually installed a computer game on my desktop [18:06] :O [18:06] lol [18:06] For the first time in years [18:07] Kilos: look for articles like: How To Migrate From Evolution To Thunderbird In Ubuntu Intrepid http://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-migrate-from-evolution-to-thunderbird-in-ubuntu-intrepid [18:07] obviously that is old, but perhaps still relevant [18:08] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail [18:08] Luckily things like thunderbird are always old because people are averse to change [18:08] see i did use google too [18:08] So it should still be relevent [18:08] debian for the win [18:08] :P [18:08] ai! [18:08] I lie [18:09] I don't like debian [18:09] well.. it's fine [18:09] haha [18:09] ohi superfly [18:09] sis man gremble [18:09] deb stuff rocks [18:10] gremble: you joined the RPM crew? [18:10] eeek [18:10] On a software platform where things change so quickly, I prefer having newer things at the expense of having to work through breakages [18:10]