[01:04] <ahoneybun> I don't see how you set that color ovidiu-florin
[05:48] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: what color?
[08:34] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:37] <ari-tczew> morning
[08:38] <lordievader> Hey ari-tczew 
[09:52]  * Riddell away today and tomorrow, easter trip to see granny
[09:52] <lordievader> Have fun, Riddell ;)
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:42] <frecel> just had plasma and dolphin crash
[14:42] <frecel> where would something like that be logged?
[14:43] <Riddell> frecel: it should bring up a drkonqi crash dialog
[14:43] <frecel> Riddell: it didn't
[14:44] <frecel> I'm on Kubuntu 15.04
[14:46] <Riddell> frecel: it might be in /var/crash in which case you can use ubuntu-bug to send the reports to launchpad (but they need to go to bugs.kde.org to be useful)
[14:48] <frecel> odd, the only crash report in /var/crash for plasma is from March 31
[15:07] <snele> Riddell: is KDE Applications 14.12.3 bugfix release going to be available for 14.04? at least in backports ppa?
[15:08] <snele> is there any plans about that? :)
[15:10] <snele> this bug pisses me off: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056769
[15:12] <snele> whenever i start dolphin is spams these mesages and because of that even on ssd dolphin startup is slow 
[16:00] <ovidiu-florin> how stable is beta 2?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, have a few crashes with konversation and system-settings
[16:06] <BluesKaj> just the gui , the irc connection stays open
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> I'll be getting a new computer at work in the next few days
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> and I want a Kubuntu with plasma 5
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> I want to ditch Arch
[16:10] <soee> ovidiu-florin: im using Vivid on my work PC liek 2 months already
[16:10] <soee> on my laptope even longer
[16:15] <soee> Someone can test for me one thing in Plasma 5 ?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> soee, what is it ?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> soee, you have 5 mins to respond, then I have to go 
[16:40] <ovidiu-florin> What's this? http://m.imgur.com/j1J9r7o 
[16:44] <ovidiu-florin__> this is another: https://paste.kde.org/psfzspsxo
[16:45] <ovidiu-florin__> on a live session
[16:45] <ovidiu-florin__> ^^
[16:45] <shadeslayer> what's what
[16:45] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: it's the driver manager
[16:45] <shadeslayer> do you have 2 cards?
[16:46] <shadeslayer> and dat microcode :/
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: the screenshot is from my brother's vivid (installed)
[16:46] <soee> shadeslayer: no this happend for me on or two times after list refresh
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin__> laptop, only one video card
[16:46] <shadeslayer> bah
[16:47] <shadeslayer> someone broke something
[16:47] <ovidiu-florin__> he sees that menu 2 or even 3 times, some times
[16:47] <ovidiu-florin__> setting anything, does nothing
[16:47] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: ^
[16:47] <shadeslayer> :'(
[16:47] <shadeslayer> it's all sitter's fault
[16:47] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: plz file bugs
[16:47] <ovidiu-florin__> the pastebin is what just happened to me on a live session (vivid)
[16:48] <shadeslayer> so that I can feed them to the easter bunny
[16:48] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: I can't right now, I'm o a live session
[16:48] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: can you help me start a dolphin as root?
[16:49] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin__: If your live session has networking, you certainly can file bugs.
[16:49] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: how are you starting it
[16:49] <shadeslayer> and what ScottK said
[16:49] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: $ kdesudo dolphin
[16:49] <shadeslayer> mm fun
[16:49] <shadeslayer> it doesn't want to use the session dbus vars
[16:49] <shadeslayer> not sure
[16:50] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: mind filing bugs for both?
[16:50] <shadeslayer> and plz tag them with 'kubuntu'
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: ok, on which project?
[16:50] <shadeslayer> for the first, kubuntu-driver-manager I think
[16:50] <shadeslayer> for the second, I'd recommend kdesudo
[16:51] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: on launchpad, right?
[16:51] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:51] <shadeslayer> both on launchpad
[16:52] <ovidiu-florin__> https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-driver-manager
[16:53] <soee> shadeslayer: do you remember the command that add problemresolver option ?
[16:53] <shadeslayer> just google for it?
[16:53] <soee> cant find it :)
[16:53] <shadeslayer> it's  -o  Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true                   
[16:53] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-driver-manager won't let me report bugs on it
[16:53] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: wrong place
[16:54] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: I'd recommend running ubuntu-bug kubuntu-driver-manager
[16:54] <shadeslayer> would attach useful info for me
[16:54] <ovidiu-florin__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdesudo/+bug/1440801
[16:55] <shadeslayer> cool
[17:01] <genii> Hm
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1440805
[17:10] <shadeslayer> cool, thx
[17:11] <soee> confirmed it
[17:11] <shadeslayer> FWIW someone should add a user visible string to /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/detect/cpu-microcode.py 
[17:11] <shadeslayer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/202279638/UbuntuDriversList.txt < no meta info about what it is
[17:11] <shadeslayer> so hurray
[17:12] <shadeslayer> I could potentially fallback to package description
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: any solution to open dolphin on live as root right now?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:12] <shadeslayer> not a clue
[17:21] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: how do I check via command line the active video driver?
[17:21] <ovidiu-florin__> if it's nvidia or nouveau?
[17:21] <yofel> you'll see that in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:21] <frecel> did I ever metion here that my screen goes black when copositing is turned on?
[17:21] <yofel> just cat the file in konsole
[17:22] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: it should be listed in the driver manager
[17:22] <ovidiu-florin__> yofel: can I grep it?
[17:22] <shadeslayer> the checkbox should be enabled
[17:22] <yofel> sure, just not sure for what...
[17:22] <ovidiu-florin__> the driver manager (I assume) it's broken
[17:22] <yofel> ovidiu-florin__: actually, nvidia should print lots of lines with NVIDIA in them
[17:23] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: eh?
[17:23] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: why do you think that?
[17:23] <yofel> ovidiu-florin__: but if you're on live, you should be using nouveau
[17:23] <shadeslayer> isn't it just the refresh bits that are broken
[17:24] <ovidiu-florin__> shadeslayer: I'm not sure
[17:28] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin__: FWIW from your previous screenshots it looks as if it's only the refreshing is broken
[17:28] <shadeslayer> assuming you're on the live ISO
[17:29] <shadeslayer> since it checks the correct radio box
[17:34] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: it's installed 
[17:34] <shadeslayer> whats installed?
[17:34] <ovidiu-florin> Not live 
[17:35] <ovidiu-florin> Vivid 
[17:35] <shadeslayer> and then you installed the nvidia driver?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> or have you changed anything on the system post install wrt drivers?
[17:56] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: let me start again
[17:56] <ovidiu-florin> my brother installed Vivid beta1
[17:57] <ovidiu-florin> it kept crashing so I recommended him to install the Nvidia driver
[17:57] <ovidiu-florin> He tried to, and hot that list duplicated
[17:57] <ovidiu-florin> sometimes even triple
[17:58] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:58] <ovidiu-florin> now
[17:58] <ovidiu-florin> I recommended hom to install it via command line
[17:59] <ovidiu-florin> so he did: sudo apt-get install nvidia-346
[17:59] <ovidiu-florin> now X freezes when the login prompt is hsown
[18:00] <shadeslayer> :(
[18:00] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: try nvidia-current
[18:00] <yofel> that's ancient (304)
[18:00] <ovidiu-florin> he had to go....
[18:01] <yofel> 340 would be worth a try maybe, that's the current legacy one
[18:03] <shadeslayer> why is it called current then @_@
[18:03] <shadeslayer> lies
[18:04] <shadeslayer> gtg, dinner
[18:04] <ovidiu-florin> why not the latest?
[18:04] <yofel> I think it's named after the plan ^^
[18:04] <yofel> then someone noticed that there's something like unsupported cards for new drivers, so the plan was changed to a ... thing
[18:05] <lordievader> shadeslayer: Because naming it lagacy would make too much sense :P
[18:06] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ping
[18:08] <shadeslayer> a thing!
[18:08] <shadeslayer> a thing always solves the worlds problems
[18:09] <yofel> doesn't it? XD
[18:09] <soee> ovidiu-florin: pong
[18:09] <ovidiu-florin> my tasks are piling up
[18:09] <ovidiu-florin> so I want to finish the site
[18:09] <ovidiu-florin> ang get it up
[18:10] <yofel> hm, using thunderbird again after a while is strangely relaxing...
[18:10] <soee> ovidiu-florin: have you seen my suggestions @ feature ture page icons ?
[18:10] <ovidiu-florin> yes, I wrote them down
[18:11] <shadeslayer> ciao
[19:05] <ovidiu-florin> kdialog is not available anymore in vivid?
[19:07] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: it's in kde-baseapps-bin
[19:08] <ovidiu-florin> package?
[19:08] <yofel> that is the package
[19:08] <ovidiu-florin> why is it not installed by default?
[19:09] <yofel> dunno... what needs it?
[19:10] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: got dropped from kubuntu-desktop as part of the plasma5 switch
[19:10] <ovidiu-florin> then we offer no alternative to kdialog?
[19:11] <yofel> does upstream have one?
[19:11] <ovidiu-florin> Debian?
[19:11] <ovidiu-florin> or Ubuntu?
[19:11] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: cool, but doesn't work on Wordpress, because of Batman
[19:11] <yofel> kde. Although best ask Riddell why he dropped it
[19:11] <yofel> maybe just because it's qt4, which isn't much of a reason
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: where's sitter?
[20:41] <yofel> usually only online during europe working hours lately
[20:42] <yofel> just write him a mail
[20:42] <ovidiu-florin> the gwenview plugin thingy he made is absent in vivid
[20:42] <BluesKaj> I'm not particularly visually oriented, buit that 15.04 plsama 5 splashscreen sure is boring . Hope there's some optional splshaes available soon 
[20:43] <BluesKaj> \err splashes 
[20:46] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Make one, start the movement ;)
[20:59] <ahoneybun> the color sections on the feature tour
[21:00] <ahoneybun> I added a new screenshot ovidiu-florin
[21:30] <frecel> ahoneybun: do you know where all the files that khelpcenter displays are stored?
[21:34] <ahoneybun> yea let me see frecel
[21:35] <ahoneybun> frecel: are you talking docs wise?
[21:35] <frecel> ahoneybun: I started working on that spelcheck script it's already up and running, I just have to write exceptions for XML tags
[21:35] <frecel> yea
[21:35] <soee_> :)
[21:36] <ahoneybun> in Plasma 5 it is /usr/share/doc/HTML/$lang
[21:37] <frecel> I'm going to make a dictionary that is basically an english dictionary that ignores different spelling of words like colour etc.
[21:37] <soee_> ahoneybun: can you add LO screen in feature tour with breeze icons and maybe use some text without specllhecking ?
[21:38] <ahoneybun> yea I just need to understand how to use those sections that ovidiu-florin put in 
[21:38] <ahoneybun> soee_: worried that I will break it even more lol
[21:39] <soee_> :
[21:39] <soee_> that i dont know :)
[21:40] <ahoneybun> XD
[21:42] <ahoneybun> soee_: do you have a white icon in writer?
[21:42] <soee_> ahoneybun: yes, i also added a comment about it somewhere wen testin it
[21:44] <ahoneybun> well I clicked the button so it is not to white
[21:47]  * ahoneybun fixed it \o/
[21:47] <ahoneybun> soee_: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/
[21:51] <soee_> ahoneybun: nice, now if ovidiu-florin fix the icons, this page will be ready i think. We can only verify texts here than