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elhanayeah, as I said I don't use that plugin anyway, so I just removed it00:08
TimeVirushello all00:38
knomehello.00:39
xubuntu15wHello02:06
holsteino/02:07
xubuntu15wTaxprep02:07
xubuntu15wYou know about02:07
holsteinis that some software? a website? actually called "taxprep"? or are you asking about preparing your taxes in linux?02:09
xubuntu39wLooking for taxprep02:12
xubuntu39wSoftware02:12
xubuntu39wTaxprep software know something about this ?02:13
holsteinis that some software? a website? actually called "taxprep"? or are you asking about preparing your taxes in linux?02:13
holsteinxubuntu39w: ^02:13
xubuntu39wIts a software just woundering how can i get it installed in my computer02:14
holsteinxubuntu39w: ask them for a linux version, and install it as they say. othwerise, i suggest just going with something that is "online", or states linux support natively02:14
xubuntu39wWho is them ?02:16
holsteinxubuntu39w: the creators of the software you reference02:16
xubuntu55whi02:50
xubuntu55wmy xubuntu laptop wont hybernate when i close the lid02:51
xubuntu55wanyone know the solution02:51
holsteinxubuntu55w: does it sleep? did you enable hibernate?02:51
xubuntu55waffirmative02:51
xubuntu55wi did enable hybernate on the power manager02:51
holsteini would start with something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/462472/xubuntu-14-04-how-to-enable-hibernate02:52
Enkidu_ako/ cfhowlett10:13
cfhowlettEnkidu_ak, oy!10:14
TimeVirusthere is a weather program one can attach to the Panel in Xfce but it lacks the Radar that the weather app in Mate - How would I get that program on Xfce?13:10
TimeVirusthere is a weather program one can attach to the Panel in Xfce but it lacks the Radar that the weather app in Mate has - How would I get that program on Xfce?13:32
TimeVirustrying to zero in on my perfect DE kind of thing13:33
Riottacompletely updated, it's actually daily build from 4.04 elfy13:57
elfyok - so a recent daily13:57
elfybooting yesterday's13:57
Riottaelfy: if you will hover cursor to the upper panel (far most) your cursor dont dissapear?13:57
elfyRiotta: not confirming that at either end of the default panel13:58
Riottamaybe its something with the composer13:58
Riottathx for checking13:58
elfyas I said - not heard anything like that, and I probably would have13:59
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Riottamaybe I got this bug cause I got fresh install even with clean /home14:10
elfyRiotta: then it *should* show in the live session, installing a vb instance from today's image14:21
elfyRiotta: ok - so with a clean install with today's daily - no issue with the panel at all.14:34
Riottaok14:37
xubuntu85wI've got a hard disk formatted in NTFS with a bunch of files on. No OS, just data. Is there a quick an easy way to turn this disk into ext4 without wiping the data, or do I have to move the data somewhere else first and then reformat it and then copy the data back?14:38
elfymove the data, reformat and copy back or resize it - assuming you've got backups14:39
cfhowlettxubuntu85w, I presume these files are precious.  save them off device before you make another move14:39
elfythen install into the empty area14:39
xubuntu85wAlright, thanks14:40
TimeVirusI installed conky-all on Mint Mate and a config there for.  I did the same for Xfce, thinking that I like it so much on Mate, I'd also want it for Xfce.  But it seems there are ways to accomplish the same with Panel apps here in Xfce that dont seem to consume as much RAM as those in Mate.  So now I'm thinking I should use these on the panel instead of Conky - Does this make sense? (Resource consumption wise)15:05
elfyTimeVirus: this isn't a Mint channel not an Xfce one15:12
TimeVirusif I'm not completely off base here Xubuntu runs the Xfce DE...no?15:13
TimeViruslol15:13
TimeVirusand thats what I'm running right now - Xubuntu15:16
TimeVirustis the only thing on the internal hdd even - was hoping to find some way of making VBox VM(s) work on this machine with so little RAM  while not completely doing away with a DE of some sort - yet15:27
TimeVirusLXDE is too minimal for my liking, though so far its the one thats gotten closest to getting a VM to work15:28
TimeVirusthrough Lubuntu15:29
TimeVirusmaybe in the end I use Xen - who knows - <--too new at this still15:32
TimeVirusall of it really15:32
TimeVirusplain old Ubuntu runs as if its in quicksand - I've come to the conclusion thats because of Unity and it ( Ubuntu) didnt last long on this machine at all15:39
TimeVirusdo LOVE Xubuntu though for sure15:39
TimeViruseven if in the end it doesnt do my VMing15:44
dalebertI'm looking for a way to _quicky_ copy about 50 GB of files from my old system to my new one on my home (internal) network. I have them connected via SSH but it's going to take about 5 hours. 1 GB an hour? Seems slow.15:49
TimeVirus10 GB/hr is how my math looks15:56
TimeVirus:-|15:56
TimeVirusstill slow though - one would think ethernet is commonly around 1 Gb/sec15:57
TimeVirusgrrr more math15:57
dalebertI agree with the 10 GB per hour. Doesn't this seem quite slow?15:58
TimeVirusseems to me yes but then 10 GB/hr needs to be converted to Gb/sec too to get an idea of your throughput15:59
TimeVirusBytes vs bits15:59
TimeVirus /time period15:59
TimeVirus8bits sill = 1Byte16:00
TimeVirusmy math intuition has REALLY gotten rusty on me - old age has its drawbacks16:01
TimeVirushow many subnets on your LAN?16:03
TimeVirusjust the one?16:03
TimeViruswhy SSH on a home network? You got strangers on the LAN?16:04
dalebertI'm kind of a newbie and ssh is what I googled and was able to get to work. I'm looking for quick alternatives. Can I mount //server/ @username or something?16:08
Azelphurdalebert: http://nakkaya.com/2009/04/15/using-netcat-for-file-transfers/16:10
dalebert.16:13
dalebertThe netcat instructions look like they would work for one file but I'm trying to copy my Home directory over which is a couple of thousand files16:17
TimeVirusdalebert, did you see this http://www.programmerinterview.com/index.php/general-miscellaneous/ftp-command-to-transfer-a-directory/16:31
TimeVirusI googled 'use ftp to transfer directories' and filezilla has been around for years16:38
TimeVirusftp = file transfer protocol btw16:39
knobscp?16:41
dalebertI'm familiar with ftp. I'll need to install an ftp server like Filezilla in order to do the transfer right? I can do that. I thought there was something but in. Especially when other were talking about being on a hom LAN16:43
Azelphurdalebert: don't use FTP, FTP is bad. You have a built in SFTP server that came with openssh16:43
TimeVirussimple file transfer protocol16:44
AzelphurTimeVirus: ...no16:44
TimeVirusmk then whats it in the linux world?16:44
Azelphurdalebert: you're probably getting crummy performance because you're transferring lots of small files since you mentioned you're copying your home directory, I bet if you zipped up the whole home directory and then sent it, it'd go much faster16:44
AzelphurTimeVirus: same as it is everywhere, ssh file transfer protocol16:44
TimeViruslol16:44
TimeVirusnot what I ws taught in CCNA classes16:45
TimeVirusSSH = Secure Shell, yes?16:45
TimeVirusthe more secure way to telnet16:46
TimeVirusyes?16:46
AzelphurTimeVirus: your CCNA was wrong.16:46
TimeVirusmk16:46
AzelphurTimeVirus: correct16:46
xubuntu18whi! I can't load brightside on startup...xubuntu 12.04, copying  /brightside.desktop /etc/init.d and in etc/xdg/autostart not work, adding in rc.local ... the simply way in startup/app neither works...sorry for my english16:46
AzelphurTimeVirus: according to wikipedia, simple file transfer protocol never made it beyond a proposed RFC16:46
TimeVirusk16:47
TimeVirusSecure File Transfer Protocol http://blogs.cisco.com/?s=sftp16:48
TimeVirusmy bad16:48
AzelphurTimeVirus: nope, they are wrong too, SFTP is SSH File transfer protocol, not sure whether they are referring to SFTP or FTPS in that article16:50
Azelphuralso the entire article is kinda bogus, SSL is not a communication channel, and monitoring the DNS queries in a network to gather that kind of data is just plain silly16:52
TimeVirusseems to me that SSH adds a lot of overhead for something that isnt needed in a home network. is that wrong thinking?16:53
AzelphurTimeVirus: yes, SSH has been around since the dawn of time and adds very little overhead, his performance issues are likely down to him transferring lots of small files16:53
TimeVirusi can c that16:54
Azelphurand from a security perspective, it's always good to err on the side of caution :)16:54
TimeVirusyes16:54
dalebertSo is there an an easier way like mount //remote_server/root @username and cp the  files over?16:55
Azelphurdalebert: you can use SSHFS to mount a remote filesystem, but that probably won't increase your performance, as I said you should either zip the home folder beforehand, or you could compress it on the fly that'd probably go fast too16:56
dalebertI installed the openssh-server and put ssh-sftp://dalebert@dalebert-640m/home/dalebert/ in Thunar and it's going ok.17:01
TimeVirusnice17:01
dalebertAnother change that I think is helping a lot is I had one on a ethernet cable and the other on my wireless. I put them both hardwired and the copy should be done in an hour. I can deal with that. Thanks everyone.17:03
TimeVirusyeah wifi is SLOW and just one of the reasons I DO NOT like wifi!17:05
TimeViruslol17:05
TimeVirusthough ac looks promising(ish)17:06
AzelphurYea, I'm tempted to buy a 802.11ac router17:06
TimeVirusheck I miss payphones even :(17:13
TimeViruslol17:13
TimeViruslack of full duplex bugs me17:14
xubuntu18whi, anyone knows why adding 'brightside' in 'session and startup' (application autostart) won't work? I've tried other ways (editing rc.local...adding a launcher...still not work). How can I get running brightside on startup?17:18
Kekaihello all17:26
KekaiI run Xubuntu 14.04 LTS and I have a few questions about the OS.17:26
KekaiI am thinking of getting and android phone later this week and I want to know if I can put music on the phone with my OS Via cable.17:26
xanguaKekai: yes17:27
KekaiThe phone itself says it has drag and drop capabilities with Windows, but I want to make sure I can with Xubuntu17:27
TimeVirusthe way I do it is to take the sd card out, plug it into my reader and off I go17:27
xanguajust connect the usb cable or use something as airdroid if you don't have one with you17:27
Kekaiokay17:28
KekaiI just want to make sure I can hook it up to my PC before purchase.17:28
AzelphurKekai: you might need to update to 14.10, MTP support is fairly new17:28
Azelphurbut apart from that you'll be fine17:28
KekaiI just to put music on it because my old MP3 player is getting to be crap17:28
Azelphurif push comes to shove, you can always transfer the files wirelessly via airdroid17:29
xanguaubuntu supports it just fine by default since 13.1017:29
Azelphurxangua: ah, there we go then :)17:29
Kekaiokay17:29
AzelphurI knew it was somewhat recent, just couldn't remember when17:29
AzelphurKekai: Android devices work great with Linux though, MTP works, tethering works, etc17:29
xanguaor 13.04 something like that, you need to use a third party repo in 12.0417:29
Azelphurtethering works even better than it does on Windows actually, plug n play17:29
Kekaiokay17:30
KekaiCool than I can just go ahead and purcahse the phone17:30
TimeVirusnow I'm wondering if Ubuntu can see the files on my point & shoot without having to take the card out17:30
KekaiAll I need it for is calls, texting, music and gaes17:30
Kekai*games/apps17:31
AzelphurKekai: if you get something like Airdroid you can even transfer files without having to plug the phone in, so much more convenient17:31
Kekaiwell its tracphone, so Idk if I want to be using my minutes to transfer files17:32
Kekaialso the wifi is crap here17:32
AzelphurTimeVirus: most likely, it's either going to be MTP, PTP or Mass storage17:32
Azelphurthere isn't really much else it can be besides something bizarre and proprietary17:32
TimeVirusKodak17:33
AzelphurKekai: well the point is more if you're transferring music from your laptop/pc to your phone, they are probably going to both be on the same wifi anyway17:33
Kekaitrue17:33
TimeViruslsusb doesnt seem to see my Kodak17:36
TimeVirusheh17:36
TimeVirusnow it does - tried turning the camera on17:37
TimeVirusit sees the camera, now what?17:37
TimeViruslol17:37
TimeVirusaccessing17:39
TimeVirusthunar is a bit confused17:40
Kekainow my only worry is about the ringtones I bought....17:41
Kekaiit says I can't transfer from flip phone to andriod17:41
xubuntu18wbye!17:50
carreraGreetings!  :-)19:46
knobhey yah!19:55
TimeViruspm-hibernate did its job and that is AND resume worked \o/20:22
TimeVirusnow off to add the button20:23
xubuntu454problem apres l'installation de xubuntu.. ?23:47
xubuntu454please..23:48
TimeViruswhat problem?23:50
TimeVirusoops too late23:50
TimeViruson less that a minute he was23:50
TimeVirusquitter!23:50

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