[00:08] <elhana> yeah, as I said I don't use that plugin anyway, so I just removed it
[00:38] <TimeVirus> hello all
[00:39] <knome> hello.
[02:06] <xubuntu15w> Hello
[02:07] <holstein> o/
[02:07] <xubuntu15w> Taxprep
[02:07] <xubuntu15w> You know about
[02:09] <holstein> is that some software? a website? actually called "taxprep"? or are you asking about preparing your taxes in linux?
[02:12] <xubuntu39w> Looking for taxprep
[02:12] <xubuntu39w> Software
[02:13] <xubuntu39w> Taxprep software know something about this ?
[02:13] <holstein> is that some software? a website? actually called "taxprep"? or are you asking about preparing your taxes in linux?
[02:13] <holstein> xubuntu39w: ^
[02:14] <xubuntu39w> Its a software just woundering how can i get it installed in my computer
[02:14] <holstein> xubuntu39w: ask them for a linux version, and install it as they say. othwerise, i suggest just going with something that is "online", or states linux support natively
[02:16] <xubuntu39w> Who is them ?
[02:16] <holstein> xubuntu39w: the creators of the software you reference
[02:50] <xubuntu55w> hi
[02:51] <xubuntu55w> my xubuntu laptop wont hybernate when i close the lid
[02:51] <xubuntu55w> anyone know the solution
[02:51] <holstein> xubuntu55w: does it sleep? did you enable hibernate?
[02:51] <xubuntu55w> affirmative
[02:51] <xubuntu55w> i did enable hybernate on the power manager
[02:52] <holstein> i would start with something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/462472/xubuntu-14-04-how-to-enable-hibernate
[10:13] <Enkidu_ak> o/ cfhowlett
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Enkidu_ak, oy!
[13:10] <TimeVirus> there is a weather program one can attach to the Panel in Xfce but it lacks the Radar that the weather app in Mate - How would I get that program on Xfce?
[13:32] <TimeVirus> there is a weather program one can attach to the Panel in Xfce but it lacks the Radar that the weather app in Mate has - How would I get that program on Xfce?
[13:33] <TimeVirus> trying to zero in on my perfect DE kind of thing
[13:57] <Riotta> completely updated, it's actually daily build from 4.04 elfy
[13:57] <elfy> ok - so a recent daily
[13:57] <elfy> booting yesterday's
[13:57] <Riotta> elfy: if you will hover cursor to the upper panel (far most) your cursor dont dissapear?
[13:58] <elfy> Riotta: not confirming that at either end of the default panel
[13:58] <Riotta> maybe its something with the composer
[13:58] <Riotta> thx for checking
[13:59] <elfy> as I said - not heard anything like that, and I probably would have
[14:10] <Riotta> maybe I got this bug cause I got fresh install even with clean /home
[14:21] <elfy> Riotta: then it *should* show in the live session, installing a vb instance from today's image
[14:34] <elfy> Riotta: ok - so with a clean install with today's daily - no issue with the panel at all.
[14:37] <Riotta> ok
[14:38] <xubuntu85w> I've got a hard disk formatted in NTFS with a bunch of files on. No OS, just data. Is there a quick an easy way to turn this disk into ext4 without wiping the data, or do I have to move the data somewhere else first and then reformat it and then copy the data back?
[14:39] <elfy> move the data, reformat and copy back or resize it - assuming you've got backups
[14:39] <cfhowlett> xubuntu85w, I presume these files are precious.  save them off device before you make another move
[14:39] <elfy> then install into the empty area
[14:40] <xubuntu85w> Alright, thanks
[15:05] <TimeVirus> I installed conky-all on Mint Mate and a config there for.  I did the same for Xfce, thinking that I like it so much on Mate, I'd also want it for Xfce.  But it seems there are ways to accomplish the same with Panel apps here in Xfce that dont seem to consume as much RAM as those in Mate.  So now I'm thinking I should use these on the panel instead of Conky - Does this make sense? (Resource consumption wise)
[15:12] <elfy> TimeVirus: this isn't a Mint channel not an Xfce one
[15:13] <TimeVirus> if I'm not completely off base here Xubuntu runs the Xfce DE...no?
[15:13] <TimeVirus> lol
[15:16] <TimeVirus> and thats what I'm running right now - Xubuntu
[15:27] <TimeVirus> tis the only thing on the internal hdd even - was hoping to find some way of making VBox VM(s) work on this machine with so little RAM  while not completely doing away with a DE of some sort - yet
[15:28] <TimeVirus> LXDE is too minimal for my liking, though so far its the one thats gotten closest to getting a VM to work
[15:29] <TimeVirus> through Lubuntu
[15:32] <TimeVirus> maybe in the end I use Xen - who knows - <--too new at this still
[15:32] <TimeVirus> all of it really
[15:39] <TimeVirus> plain old Ubuntu runs as if its in quicksand - I've come to the conclusion thats because of Unity and it ( Ubuntu) didnt last long on this machine at all
[15:39] <TimeVirus> do LOVE Xubuntu though for sure
[15:44] <TimeVirus> even if in the end it doesnt do my VMing
[15:49] <dalebert> I'm looking for a way to _quicky_ copy about 50 GB of files from my old system to my new one on my home (internal) network. I have them connected via SSH but it's going to take about 5 hours. 1 GB an hour? Seems slow.
[15:56] <TimeVirus> 10 GB/hr is how my math looks
[15:56] <TimeVirus> :-|
[15:57] <TimeVirus> still slow though - one would think ethernet is commonly around 1 Gb/sec
[15:57] <TimeVirus> grrr more math
[15:58] <dalebert> I agree with the 10 GB per hour. Doesn't this seem quite slow?
[15:59] <TimeVirus> seems to me yes but then 10 GB/hr needs to be converted to Gb/sec too to get an idea of your throughput
[15:59] <TimeVirus> Bytes vs bits
[15:59] <TimeVirus>  /time period
[16:00] <TimeVirus> 8bits sill = 1Byte
[16:01] <TimeVirus> my math intuition has REALLY gotten rusty on me - old age has its drawbacks
[16:03] <TimeVirus> how many subnets on your LAN?
[16:03] <TimeVirus> just the one?
[16:04] <TimeVirus> why SSH on a home network? You got strangers on the LAN?
[16:08] <dalebert> I'm kind of a newbie and ssh is what I googled and was able to get to work. I'm looking for quick alternatives. Can I mount //server/ @username or something?
[16:10] <Azelphur> dalebert: http://nakkaya.com/2009/04/15/using-netcat-for-file-transfers/
[16:13] <dalebert> .
[16:17] <dalebert> The netcat instructions look like they would work for one file but I'm trying to copy my Home directory over which is a couple of thousand files
[16:31] <TimeVirus> dalebert, did you see this http://www.programmerinterview.com/index.php/general-miscellaneous/ftp-command-to-transfer-a-directory/
[16:38] <TimeVirus> I googled 'use ftp to transfer directories' and filezilla has been around for years
[16:39] <TimeVirus> ftp = file transfer protocol btw
[16:41] <knob> scp?
[16:43] <dalebert> I'm familiar with ftp. I'll need to install an ftp server like Filezilla in order to do the transfer right? I can do that. I thought there was something but in. Especially when other were talking about being on a hom LAN
[16:43] <Azelphur> dalebert: don't use FTP, FTP is bad. You have a built in SFTP server that came with openssh
[16:44] <TimeVirus> simple file transfer protocol
[16:44] <Azelphur> TimeVirus: ...no
[16:44] <TimeVirus> mk then whats it in the linux world?
[16:44] <Azelphur> dalebert: you're probably getting crummy performance because you're transferring lots of small files since you mentioned you're copying your home directory, I bet if you zipped up the whole home directory and then sent it, it'd go much faster
[16:44] <Azelphur> TimeVirus: same as it is everywhere, ssh file transfer protocol
[16:44] <TimeVirus> lol
[16:45] <TimeVirus> not what I ws taught in CCNA classes
[16:45] <TimeVirus> SSH = Secure Shell, yes?
[16:46] <TimeVirus> the more secure way to telnet
[16:46] <TimeVirus> yes?
[16:46] <Azelphur> TimeVirus: your CCNA was wrong.
[16:46] <TimeVirus> mk
[16:46] <Azelphur> TimeVirus: correct
[16:46] <xubuntu18w> hi! I can't load brightside on startup...xubuntu 12.04, copying  /brightside.desktop /etc/init.d and in etc/xdg/autostart not work, adding in rc.local ... the simply way in startup/app neither works...sorry for my english
[16:46] <Azelphur> TimeVirus: according to wikipedia, simple file transfer protocol never made it beyond a proposed RFC
[16:47] <TimeVirus> k
[16:48] <TimeVirus> Secure File Transfer Protocol http://blogs.cisco.com/?s=sftp
[16:48] <TimeVirus> my bad
[16:50] <Azelphur> TimeVirus: nope, they are wrong too, SFTP is SSH File transfer protocol, not sure whether they are referring to SFTP or FTPS in that article
[16:52] <Azelphur> also the entire article is kinda bogus, SSL is not a communication channel, and monitoring the DNS queries in a network to gather that kind of data is just plain silly
[16:53] <TimeVirus> seems to me that SSH adds a lot of overhead for something that isnt needed in a home network. is that wrong thinking?
[16:53] <Azelphur> TimeVirus: yes, SSH has been around since the dawn of time and adds very little overhead, his performance issues are likely down to him transferring lots of small files
[16:54] <TimeVirus> i can c that
[16:54] <Azelphur> and from a security perspective, it's always good to err on the side of caution :)
[16:54] <TimeVirus> yes
[16:55] <dalebert> So is there an an easier way like mount //remote_server/root @username and cp the  files over?
[16:56] <Azelphur> dalebert: you can use SSHFS to mount a remote filesystem, but that probably won't increase your performance, as I said you should either zip the home folder beforehand, or you could compress it on the fly that'd probably go fast too
[17:01] <dalebert> I installed the openssh-server and put ssh-sftp://dalebert@dalebert-640m/home/dalebert/ in Thunar and it's going ok.
[17:01] <TimeVirus> nice
[17:03] <dalebert> Another change that I think is helping a lot is I had one on a ethernet cable and the other on my wireless. I put them both hardwired and the copy should be done in an hour. I can deal with that. Thanks everyone.
[17:05] <TimeVirus> yeah wifi is SLOW and just one of the reasons I DO NOT like wifi!
[17:05] <TimeVirus> lol
[17:06] <TimeVirus> though ac looks promising(ish)
[17:06] <Azelphur> Yea, I'm tempted to buy a 802.11ac router
[17:13] <TimeVirus> heck I miss payphones even :(
[17:13] <TimeVirus> lol
[17:14] <TimeVirus> lack of full duplex bugs me
[17:18] <xubuntu18w> hi, anyone knows why adding 'brightside' in 'session and startup' (application autostart) won't work? I've tried other ways (editing rc.local...adding a launcher...still not work). How can I get running brightside on startup?
[17:26] <Kekai> hello all
[17:26] <Kekai> I run Xubuntu 14.04 LTS and I have a few questions about the OS.
[17:26] <Kekai> I am thinking of getting and android phone later this week and I want to know if I can put music on the phone with my OS Via cable.
[17:27] <xangua> Kekai: yes
[17:27] <Kekai> The phone itself says it has drag and drop capabilities with Windows, but I want to make sure I can with Xubuntu
[17:27] <TimeVirus> the way I do it is to take the sd card out, plug it into my reader and off I go
[17:27] <xangua> just connect the usb cable or use something as airdroid if you don't have one with you
[17:28] <Kekai> okay
[17:28] <Kekai> I just want to make sure I can hook it up to my PC before purchase.
[17:28] <Azelphur> Kekai: you might need to update to 14.10, MTP support is fairly new
[17:28] <Azelphur> but apart from that you'll be fine
[17:28] <Kekai> I just to put music on it because my old MP3 player is getting to be crap
[17:29] <Azelphur> if push comes to shove, you can always transfer the files wirelessly via airdroid
[17:29] <xangua> ubuntu supports it just fine by default since 13.10
[17:29] <Azelphur> xangua: ah, there we go then :)
[17:29] <Kekai> okay
[17:29] <Azelphur> I knew it was somewhat recent, just couldn't remember when
[17:29] <Azelphur> Kekai: Android devices work great with Linux though, MTP works, tethering works, etc
[17:29] <xangua> or 13.04 something like that, you need to use a third party repo in 12.04
[17:29] <Azelphur> tethering works even better than it does on Windows actually, plug n play
[17:30] <Kekai> okay
[17:30] <Kekai> Cool than I can just go ahead and purcahse the phone
[17:30] <TimeVirus> now I'm wondering if Ubuntu can see the files on my point & shoot without having to take the card out
[17:30] <Kekai> All I need it for is calls, texting, music and gaes
[17:31] <Kekai> *games/apps
[17:31] <Azelphur> Kekai: if you get something like Airdroid you can even transfer files without having to plug the phone in, so much more convenient
[17:32] <Kekai> well its tracphone, so Idk if I want to be using my minutes to transfer files
[17:32] <Kekai> also the wifi is crap here
[17:32] <Azelphur> TimeVirus: most likely, it's either going to be MTP, PTP or Mass storage
[17:32] <Azelphur> there isn't really much else it can be besides something bizarre and proprietary
[17:33] <TimeVirus> Kodak
[17:33] <Azelphur> Kekai: well the point is more if you're transferring music from your laptop/pc to your phone, they are probably going to both be on the same wifi anyway
[17:33] <Kekai> true
[17:36] <TimeVirus> lsusb doesnt seem to see my Kodak
[17:36] <TimeVirus> heh
[17:37] <TimeVirus> now it does - tried turning the camera on
[17:37] <TimeVirus> it sees the camera, now what?
[17:37] <TimeVirus> lol
[17:39] <TimeVirus> accessing
[17:40] <TimeVirus> thunar is a bit confused
[17:41] <Kekai> now my only worry is about the ringtones I bought....
[17:41] <Kekai> it says I can't transfer from flip phone to andriod
[17:50] <xubuntu18w> bye!
[19:46] <carrera> Greetings!  :-)
[19:55] <knob> hey yah!
[20:22] <TimeVirus> pm-hibernate did its job and that is AND resume worked \o/
[20:23] <TimeVirus> now off to add the button
[23:47] <xubuntu454> problem apres l'installation de xubuntu.. ?
[23:48] <xubuntu454> please..
[23:50] <TimeVirus> what problem?
[23:50] <TimeVirus> oops too late
[23:50] <TimeVirus> on less that a minute he was
[23:50] <TimeVirus> quitter!