[00:51] <mhall119> BobJonkman: genii: I've created http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3075/ for you
[00:51] <genii> mhall119: Thanks :)
[05:01] <Kilos> evening nhaines  and other peeps in the states
[05:08] <Kilos> and morning to everyone else
[05:09] <Kilos> TaeheeJang  well done
[05:09] <TaeheeJang> Kilos: haha you're welcome. Thankyou!
[05:10] <Kilos> any time
[05:11] <TaeheeJang> I'm talking with Karl Wortmann, and he will join IRC again.
[05:11] <Kilos> good
[06:11] <nhaines> Good evening, Kilos.  :)
[06:11] <Kilos> :D
[06:24] <BobJonkman> Yay! Thanx, mhall119
[07:11] <boon> hello
[07:11] <Kilos> hi boon  
[07:13] <boon> hi kilos.....anything good happening in the chat room or Wat
[07:14] <Kilos> very quiet here boon  
[07:14] <Kilos> only new news is that korea have a running LoCo
[07:26] <Kilos> hi toddy  
[07:26] <toddy> hi Kilos 
[07:38] <Kilos> hi dpm  
[09:58] <TaeheeJang> umm.. exactly korea team has operated by previous leader, and we voted new leader, and made a renewed council.
[09:59] <Kilos> at least its up and running again
[09:59] <Kilos> thats what counts
[10:00] <TaeheeJang> yes right. haha.
[10:00] <Kilos> get the guys to read and understand http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[10:01] <Kilos> its all about helping each other and working together
[10:01] <Kilos> the leader must lead by example
[10:01] <Kilos> then others enjoy following
[10:02] <TaeheeJang> yes i will. thx!
[15:59] <Kilos> hi PabloRubianes  
[15:59] <PabloRubianes> hi Kilos
[16:24] <ShawnK> Hi
[16:24] <Kilos> hi ShawnK  
[21:25] <wxl> nhaines: i forgot. did you say you were planning on coming to lfnw or oscon?
[21:38] <nhaines> wxl: I was thinking of coming to OSCON, but I'm not sure if my schedule will work out.  I'll know after the end of the month.
[21:38] <wxl> nhaines: alright cool, well keep me in the loop. they haven't opened registration yet, so no rush, but i'm hoping to use lfnw as a dress rehearsal of sorts.
[21:39] <nhaines> Ooh, a good idea.
[21:41] <wxl> i gotta get my freaking pi2 set up already
[21:41] <wxl> if you're going to come to oscon, let me know and i'll leave the ubuntu phone side of things in your hands XD
[21:44] <nhaines> Haha, thanks!  Yeah, I'll definitely keep you filled in.  I had just been thinking about OSCON last week.
[21:46] <wxl> it would be nice to actually have the bq phone there rather than just my crappy old nexus 4 :)
[21:48] <nhaines> Hopefully that'll be something that Canonical can make happen by then.  :)  But the truth is that the two phones seem to work very similarly.
[21:48] <wxl> nhaines: i realize that but the officialness of it will certainly make those less personally familiar with ubuntu ooh and ahh :)
[21:50] <nhaines> I found that this actually seemed to be a secondary concern.  A lot of people were happy to see Ubuntu on our N4s at SCALE and then just briefly look at or hold the bq phone before leaving.
[21:50] <nhaines> (This was a pleasant surprise.)
[21:52] <wxl> oh hm
[21:52] <wxl> kind of makes sense
[21:52] <wxl> and really the bq isn't marketed for the us, so that makes sense!
[21:52] <nhaines> Yeah.  There was a lot of "When will this phone be available in the US?"  "Never."
[21:53] <wxl> (aside: at first i didn't grok what you meant by n4 and thought there was some arm server i didn't know about) XD
[21:53] <wxl> never?
[21:53] <nhaines> Nope!  The bq phone is Europe-only.
[21:53] <wxl> i thought canonical had announced there was to be an announcement
[21:53] <wxl> oh
[21:53] <wxl> not "touch" you mean "bq"
[21:53] <wxl> yeah, makes sense
[21:54] <nhaines> We had the "announcement in the next 6 months" timeframe back then, and I would surmrise with the attendee that a US-based phone would probably be speced more appropriately for US tastes.
[21:54] <wxl> the bq isn't 4g is it?
[21:55] <nhaines> It can do European HSPA+ but not US HSPA+ or LTE.
[21:55] <wxl> has lte even hit europe at all?
[21:55] <nhaines> Or 3G for that matter.  So here it's 2G.
[21:55] <nhaines> I believe they've been using LTE for a while but the frequencies are different.
[21:55] <nhaines> I donno.  I just buy Nexus phones so I don't have to worry about it.
[21:56] <wxl> heheh yeah
[21:56] <nhaines> Heck, T-Mobile doesn't even charge me for international data roaming anymore.  :D
[21:56] <wxl> well i know that 3g is far more common there
[21:56] <nhaines> Or texts either, I think.
[21:56] <wxl> whereis here 4g is an expectation
[21:57] <nhaines> Yeah, I'd mention how great the phone is in the European market, and note how smooth and fast Ubuntu was on low-mid-end hardware.
[21:57] <wxl> hm so i'm probably using hspa+ with t-mobile
[21:57] <wxl> i didn't realize that
[21:57] <nhaines> So if the US wants a flagship phone, well, just think of how well Ubuntu will run on that.
[21:57] <wxl> yeah
[21:57]  * wxl grins widely
[21:58] <nhaines> Regardless of the fact that it's true anyway, everyone seemed to buy into that.
[21:58] <wxl> how close is lte speed to hspa+?
[21:58] <nhaines> Or when someone asked how Ubuntu ran on the N5, I'd say "It's the best way to run Ubuntu if you hate Bluetooth."
[21:58] <wxl> hehehe
[21:58] <nhaines> HSPA+ is slower than LTE now but was faster than the first LTE phones out there.
[21:59] <wxl> interesting
[22:01] <wxl> according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards#Overview it seems that hspa+ has the potential to annihilate lte
[22:04] <nhaines> Probably, but everyone seems to have picked LTE anyway.  :)
[22:09] <wxl> doesn't make sense to me considering we have to create new infrastructure
[22:09] <wxl> UNLESS it is proven tha ttechnically lte can exceed all possible improvements in hspa+
[22:11] <nhaines> Or if the hardware's cheaper.  But when T-Mobile rolled out HSPA+ they made the towers software upgradeable to LTE.