| === BOHverkill_ is now known as BOHverkill | ||
| prantak | how can get a ubuntu phone in india | 14:55 |
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| Trump_ | Hey all | 14:56 |
| prantak | hi | 14:56 |
| Trump_ | Stream hasnt started yet? | 14:57 |
| prantak | anyone know how can i buy a ubuntu phone in asia pacefic region | 14:57 |
| prantak | no | 14:57 |
| nik90 | prantak: Meizu a chineese company showcased their device in MWC couple of weeks back..it should hopefully be released in the near future..that would be your best bet to buy a ubuntu phone in asia | 14:58 |
| Trump_ | Wish they would sell the Ubuntu phone in the United States. | 15:07 |
| theBest | Is there a ubuntu Q&A now? Cause I don't see the youtube live hangout. | 15:07 |
| theBest | Or is it in one hour? | 15:08 |
| Trump_ | No clue, I don't see a time listed. | 15:10 |
| trey_ | hello | 15:12 |
| trey_ | QUESTION plasma 5 is python isn't it , or am I confused I run kubuntu 14.10 plasma 4 | 15:15 |
| Trump__ | The waiting is real lol | 15:21 |
| nik90 | it should start in 30 mins | 15:29 |
| Hatim | Salut | 15:30 |
| NaneK | Hello everybody | 15:39 |
| Trump__ | Hey | 15:42 |
| Hatim | Hi | 15:44 |
| dpm | hi all o/ | 15:54 |
| dpm | about to start the Q&A in about 5 mins | 15:54 |
| dpm | sorry about the time confusion if you happened to join 1h ago | 15:55 |
| Constantine | Afternnoooons. | 15:55 |
| Constantine | 5 to-go. | 15:56 |
| dpm | hi Constantine :) | 15:56 |
| Constantine | dpm, Are you a presenter, then ? | 15:56 |
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| dpm | yep :) | 15:57 |
| dpm | this week it's going to be mhall119 and I | 15:58 |
| Constantine | dpm, Where is Jono burried ? & will his ghost be able to play the guitar in UOAir ever, again ? | 15:59 |
| dpm | Constantine, I'll take this as the first question of the Q&A when we go live in a min :) | 16:00 |
| systemb | hi all | 16:01 |
| systemb | it's over already? | 16:01 |
| mhall119 | systemb: just starting now | 16:01 |
| systemb | yay! | 16:02 |
| Constantine | the cutains are opening ... :) | 16:02 |
| Constantine | ***curtains | 16:03 |
| mhall119 | you can ask your questions here any time, please start them with QUESTION in caps just like that | 16:03 |
| Trump__ | Hey finally live lol | 16:03 |
| nixi | I was just told that streams like this exist | 16:03 |
| nixi | nice | 16:04 |
| mhall119 | nixi: every week :) | 16:04 |
| mhall119 | same bat time, same bat channel | 16:04 |
| Constantine | QUESTIONS: Does any of the Community Q&A Team listen to: badvotage DOT org | 16:04 |
| systemb | QUESTION: What's new in Ubuntu 15.04? | 16:04 |
| nixi | mhall119, well i am definetly going to watch every week now :D | 16:04 |
| mhall119 | nixi: you can also go back and watch old episodes on https://www.youtube.com/user/UbuntuOnAir | 16:05 |
| nixi | thanks ^^ | 16:05 |
| mhall119 | np :) | 16:05 |
| RogerH_ | 14.04.2 introduced a new hardware enablement stack that was only available if you installed from scratch (as opposed to upgrading). Do you forsee this happening again with future 14.04 releases? (.3, .4, etc.) | 16:05 |
| Trump__ | 0 | 16:06 |
| nixi | David looks like Sacha Baron Cohen :D | 16:06 |
| mhall119 | Sacha Baron Cohen looks like dpm :) | 16:06 |
| systemb | QUESTION: Why is Dell selling the XPS 13 with Ubuntu 14.04 SP 1? (14.04.1) and not 14.04.2 | 16:07 |
| Knightmare | QUESTION: What stance is canonical taking about all non-canonical endorsed hardware being sold? (i.e Cube, UTtab etc) | 16:07 |
| systemb | good question Knightmare | 16:08 |
| systemb | +1 | 16:08 |
| Link_ | QUESTION: Are there plans for the Ubuntu Phone to have some more mainstream apps like Skype or WhatsApp? | 16:09 |
| nixi | QUESTION : is Canonical helping or going to help the big companies with making better GPU drivers? It seems like they could use some help ...... amd | 16:11 |
| Knightmare | QUESTION: Mr Shuttleworth hinted at bunch of vendors who are waiting to launch Ubuntu devices, are you able to expand on this? | 16:11 |
| Knightmare | QUESTION: Is upstart/systemd used on the phone? | 16:12 |
| Knightmare | QUESTION: When will 14.04 be getting the backport of new features found in 15.04? | 16:14 |
| * ChloeWolfieGirl gets here to late xD | 16:17 | |
| Knightmare | QUESTION: Once convergence is in full effect, will the default apps found on phone be the same across all devices? | 16:17 |
| Link_ | Thanks a lot for the response! | 16:17 |
| Constantine | QUESTION & ALSO FEEDBACK: During episode 38 , I think of badvoltage (sorry to drone on) .. there was a "Heuston, we have a problem" dichotomy where you can't actually find a developer that you want to develop Ubuntu software for you (even if you have the bitcoin). My feedback is : SHOULD canonical hear the voices of those of bountysource and publish a policy as to are the two processes in synergy towards the same Aim ? As | 16:18 |
| Constantine | ... back to the management that there is a grassroots direction towards getting people to 'code for them' & that a policy needs to be cengaged and discussed at management level ? & don't just brush this off as to miniscule because in years to-come this may come back to bite .... end. | 16:18 |
| Constantine | We need this conversation to happen this year. | 16:18 |
| Knightmare | :D | 16:19 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION Will the unity 8 desktop require .click packages or will it work with .deb ? | 16:19 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: I think both | 16:24 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: Are there any plans to get remote controllers working with the phone? at somepoint would I beable to sync my PS4 controller with the Ubuntu Phone and play some Sonic 3 on my Ubuntu Phone? | 16:24 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: Oh dude, did you hear that Freedom Planet is coming to Linux ( and Mac, but who cares? ) | 16:24 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, Thats what I hope, but I heard that if you install a deb on the phone, it messes the updater up... | 16:25 |
| Knightmare | QUESTION: Is it possible to get Ethernet working on the tablet through the use of a USB adapter? | 16:25 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, I heard rumors that it was and then I heard they where fake and then I heard that it's been made sure the game works fine if you use Wine, has there been any proper proof of it from the actual developers anymore? | 16:27 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: http://store.steampowered.com/app/248310 Penguin's there | 16:27 |
| Nothing_Much | So... yep | 16:27 |
| Nothing_Much | I'm probably gonna buy it eventually | 16:27 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | <3 | 16:28 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | I played a early demo back in the days when I had a mac with windows 7 on it, so a goood few years back and it was fun so I'll probably pick this up xD | 16:28 |
| Nothing_Much | QUESTION: Aren't smart TVs not very useful because of the use of Cable Boxes, most of the time when smart TVs are used, they almost always have cable boxes and their features are almost never used, would Ubuntu TV or any other TV OS be practical at all? | 16:30 |
| Constantine | dpm: I think we'll leave it for there with bountysource .. but there are bounties over $100 for ubuntu on bountysource, actually. Thank-you. | 16:30 |
| dpm | thanks Constantine | 16:31 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, I use my console for everything a smart tv is used for anyways and a console controller I find so much better then a TV remote so I find little sence in smart tv's right now, but when Consoles die I think smart TV's would still be useful for Netflicks, crunchyrole, youtube, and other such media players | 16:32 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: Yes, but what I mean is that the OS within the smart TV would be useless, which is why you have the console, right? | 16:33 |
| Constantine | QUESTION: mhall119 Can you enlighten us to the script that was discussed for the likes of the Google Plus Ubuntu App community and other Ubuntu.com Links ,i.e. about "checking links" as they were changed this week, I believe. | 16:33 |
| Nothing_Much | What I discovered from my job though, is that CableCards exist, sorta PCMCIA cards that you put into the TV and you can watch and view TV with the channel guide using Ubuntu TV or some other OS, but Video on Demand and Pay Per View might be a problem. It depends on the telecom company though. | 16:34 |
| RogerH_ | I've been able to use a couple of USB etherhet adapters with Android tablets. I think the support is in the kernel. | 16:36 |
| theBest | QUESTION: How much Android is in the Ubuntu for Phone? | 16:36 |
| Constantine | QUESTION:What will stop Ubuntu-TV from turning into another CD-i phenomenon ? | 16:38 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, I don't understand what you mean, the OS in the tv wouldn't be useless if you can use apps on the TV, I use the console because a I prefer using a controller such as the PS4 or Wii-u's and because the TV gui is generally aweful compaired to a consoles GUI, if ubuntu for the TV could make a great GUI which would work with a good controller then I'd be verry much glad to use the TV instead expeci | 16:39 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | ally since I don't feel consoles would be around much longer | 16:39 |
| Nothing_Much | Well, traditional consoles such as vendor locked-in ones will be outdated | 16:39 |
| Nothing_Much | Steam Machines are the way of the future | 16:39 |
| theBest | QUESTION: There are some third party APIs e.g. for WhatsApp. Is it legal to use them? | 16:40 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, IDK, I mean hopefully yes, but they don't have enough mind share and because theres so many... I think the CD-i thing is most likely to happen with the SteamBox... | 16:41 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: Well, in the USA the ONLY way to watch TV from a cable provider is through either a Cable Card or a Cable Box, most of the time, Cable Boxes from companies lock you in and you have to use their channel guides without actually using the TV's features themselves, outside of Apps on the TV, but that would mean probably changing the Input | 16:42 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: More like the 3DO, since that console had 3 different versions | 16:42 |
| pietroalbini | theBest, whatsapp blocks every user which uses a custom client for one day | 16:42 |
| rarara | QUESTION: Meizu, are you kidding? | 16:42 |
| Nothing_Much | But Steam Machines have a MAJOR thing going for them... Steam and SteamOS. | 16:43 |
| dpm | theBest, the diagram on this page will show you a bit more: http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ | 16:43 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, I'm british I have no idea how that works, You can't just plug a cable into the tv for tv and connect the tv to the internet to watch what ever you want? | 16:43 |
| rarara | QUESTION: What do you think of KDE Plasma 5? | 16:43 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: Nope, we have "all digital" areas which means that the signals need to be converted to be viewed on the TV | 16:44 |
| Nothing_Much | Although I'm pretty sure that it's DRM | 16:44 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, 'Murica sounds great... and Nintendo and Sony say that its to difficult to bring out TV stuff in the UK, nintendo released there Tvii thing for the wii-u pretty much everywhere but europe/UK | 16:45 |
| Constantine | dpm, Perhaps you could answer that next week :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips_CD-i | 16:46 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: I hope that was sarcastic with 'Murica being great and all.. which it is... sorta >.> | 16:46 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, I was being sarcastic because of the weird way your internet tv things work... seems verry anti-consumer.. | 16:47 |
| Nothing_Much | oh god it is | 16:47 |
| dpm | thanks Constantine :) | 16:48 |
| Constantine | np | 16:48 |
| Trump__ | Has Canonical thought about starting a gofundme to buy out Microsoft and then take over the world with Ubuntu machines.? | 16:48 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Trump__, Beautiful | 16:48 |
| Nothing_Much | It is, mostly because our people don't care enough about this type of stuff, but I try to keep my head intact, and that when customers call in angry because their services were either disconnected or they failed to pay their bill | 16:48 |
| NaneK | [QUESTION] Will there be something like KDE Connect for Ubuntu? | 16:48 |
| Nothing_Much | It's entertainment for me | 16:49 |
| Constantine | QUESTION: What is the current phiolosphy about having a Physical UDS ? Tell us how else it could work, as of yet ? | 16:49 |
| theBest | pietroalbini, I thought maybe because they don't have a native client und Ubuntu for phones, they wont block it... | 16:49 |
| Constantine | **philosophy | 16:49 |
| Nothing_Much | Trump__: I'd love for that to happen, honestly :3 | 16:50 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: When will ubuntu come pre-installed with kittens? | 16:50 |
| dpm | lol | 16:50 |
| * Constantine loves kittens :) | 16:51 | |
| Nothing_Much | Download the kittens | 16:51 |
| Constantine | Ceck out the Kittens App. | 16:51 |
| Nothing_Much | I already have a cat though | 16:51 |
| Nothing_Much | Kittens app? | 16:51 |
| NaneK | Yes I meant for Unity. Thank you for the answer | 16:51 |
| Typewriter | I've been trying to move away from Windows for over 10 years, but the Linux landscape has just not been simple enough or friendly enough to move entirely in a production environment. Ubuntu has certainly come a long way with GUI and interface - any plans to further simplify? | 16:51 |
| mhall119 | ChloeWolfieGirl: we already ship with `cat` :) | 16:51 |
| Nothing_Much | Typewriter: You can look and try out Unity 8 using one of the alpha builds somewhere on the Ubuntu website.. | 16:52 |
| Constantine | Ghehe | 16:52 |
| rarara | QUESTION: If I write a .qml app for ubuntu, what are the chances of it running on sailfish too? (with modifications) | 16:52 |
| Constantine | they won't answer that, well. | 16:53 |
| mhall119 | won't answer what? | 16:53 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: will there be an official Ubuntu map app? I saw a map icon for it | 16:53 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | mhall119 Haha xD | 16:53 |
| Constantine | mhall119: Do you own a Sailfish phone ? | 16:53 |
| mhall119 | not myself, no, but I keep up witit | 16:53 |
| mhall119 | with it | 16:53 |
| Constantine | k, good luck :) | 16:54 |
| Nothing_Much | What would be nice is if Jolla would port over the Android compatibility layer to ACTUAL GNU/Linux distros.. | 16:54 |
| Nothing_Much | Then we'd have progress | 16:54 |
| Nothing_Much | But so far we don't, because they're strictly mobile and Android is garbage as it is right now. Ubuntu all the way with convergence! | 16:55 |
| mhall119 | Nothing_Much: it's not theirs, they bought a license to a proprietary product | 16:55 |
| Knightmare | QUESTION: Does the Ubuntu community lack developers in your opinion? | 16:56 |
| Nothing_Much | mhall119: what?! Really? That's.. incredibly backwards.. | 16:56 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, I heard that the gui or something like that was propritary as well which is one reason I've been less into sailfish | 16:57 |
| Nothing_Much | I've heard about that too, but.. I mean I hear so much praise about that OS, and yet it's pretty much as backwards as Android is, probably even worse since it's not even trying to break away from Android dependency. | 16:58 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, I used to be pretty excited about it and now to me it just seems like another thing the open source community has to fight, which is ashame because I think the OS community was pushing it forward originally.. | 17:00 |
| mhall119 | ChloeWolfieGirl: the UI toolkit and Sailfish interface are closed source, yes | 17:00 |
| mhall119 | sorry, that was for Nothing_Much | 17:00 |
| Constantine | QUESTION: Could you thank-everybody for attending , and taking the time out of there day, today ? | 17:00 |
| Constantine | **their | 17:00 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: They still are! It's like the majority of enthusiasts don't even understand how freedom works.. Granted, I don't like the MIT and BSD licenses, but at least the original source code is there.. ( not a developer ) | 17:01 |
| Constantine | ChloeWolfieGirl: Your a good artist .. I saw you on Google plus :-) | 17:01 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, Yeah... well if it wasn't for one of my friends I wouldn't know about it and would probably been singing its prases if Ubuntu touch wasn't the OS I wanted... | 17:02 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Constantine, Psh xD But thank you verry much, its greatly appreciated :3 | 17:03 |
| Nothing_Much | I've known about it, but then I saw someone say "proprietary" and I was like "nope, I'm out, not getting any of my support" | 17:03 |
| Nothing_Much | Hey guys, it's passed 1pm! | 17:03 |
| Trump__ | Thanks for the Q&A stream! | 17:04 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, I think there tablet ad was like "Its time that the tablet got a real open source OS" what BS if its like that... | 17:04 |
| dpm | o/ | 17:04 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Thank You for the Q&A guys x3 | 17:04 |
| Nothing_Much | Yeah, marketing and the enthusiasts failed to do research, I expected that from the mainstream, but enthusiasts? Sheesh | 17:05 |
| Knightmare | Yeah thanks for answering my questions I know there was a lot! | 17:05 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Question was this a 2 hour Q&A or did youtube tell me the wrong starting time? | 17:05 |
| Constantine | Thanks everyone, bye. | 17:05 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: It was 1 hour | 17:05 |
| Nothing_Much | As usual | 17:05 |
| Knightmare | DST? | 17:05 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, so Youtube lied to me xD | 17:05 |
| Constantine | flys-by Huh ? | 17:05 |
| Nothing_Much | idk lol | 17:05 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | told me it started at 16, but its 18 now meaning it would have started at 17... | 17:06 |
| Trump__ | It was a 1 hour Q&A | 17:06 |
| Constantine | started at 17:00 pm | 17:06 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Youtube told me 16 | 17:06 |
| Constantine | & now everyone quits .. | 17:06 |
| Nothing_Much | Youtube is glitchy | 17:07 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Yups | 17:07 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, thats so annoyying... | 17:07 |
| Nothing_Much | But I only recently saw the 500 error of a Team of highly trained monkies | 17:07 |
| Nothing_Much | A few weeks ago | 17:07 |
| mhall119 | ChloeWolfieGirl: it's 1700 UTC now, not 1800 | 17:08 |
| theBest | Bye everyone. See you next week. | 17:08 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | mhall119, but Youtube gives you it in your local time right? | 17:08 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | mhall119, or suppose to? | 17:08 |
| mhall119 | I have no idea :( | 17:08 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | mhall119, well it told me 16 and I was like oh no I missed it, but I didn't so Its ok xD | 17:09 |
| Nothing_Much | Google+ should have | 17:09 |
| jak | first time to join here. been having trouble with Banshee where it would not respond and I need to force close it at some point. I never had the same trouble over other media players like vlc or tomahawk. heard this to happen from previous versions but as the nearest Ubuntu update is on, are there any expected updates for this? | 17:10 |
| Nothing_Much | jak: Try going to #ubuntu, which is the tech support chat | 17:10 |
| Constantine | jak, Ask next week @ the QnA | 17:11 |
| Nothing_Much | Or that | 17:11 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | jak I've had issues playing the video via VLC... | 17:11 |
| jak | been there as well. well i just learned to live with it. but yea, thanks. | 17:12 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: Question regarding Sailfish, what did you mean when you discovered it? | 17:15 |
| Nothing_Much | Like your friend talked about it being proprietary or was it your friend that lead you to it? | 17:16 |
| Constantine | What I listening to now : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6-5BtL04W8 | 17:17 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, sorry got distracted and forgot #fooods and things em, I don't remember talking about discovering sailfish | 18:11 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | But like I was pretty cool with sailfish os until my friend told me about the proprietery gui | 18:11 |
| Nothing_Much | ChloeWolfieGirl: Yeah it looked cool at first, but then proprietary stuff | 18:19 |
| Nothing_Much | No worries | 18:20 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much I don't mind a proprietery app every now and again BUT OS wide | 18:20 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | I want MY OS free | 18:20 |
| Nothing_Much | Yeah, Steam's bittersweet for me though | 18:20 |
| Nothing_Much | I use it an all, but I hate that most games are locked to it, but it's tolerable | 18:20 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Nothing_Much, yeah, but at least theres GOG now | 18:21 |
| Nothing_Much | I wish Desura got more attention than GOG, to be honest | 18:21 |
| Nothing_Much | Most of the time I forget that I have a GOG account | 18:21 |
| Nothing_Much | And therefore I almost never buy anything from them | 18:21 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | I installed Desura wrong I think... I used it a little but I don't know | 18:22 |
| Nothing_Much | I want convenience and freedom, Desura has that, but it's horribly unnoticed, and while it has a new owner but the development is.. not very active | 18:22 |
| Nothing_Much | Then again, there's also Lutris, made specifically for GNU/Linux | 18:22 |
| Nothing_Much | Although Lutris is mostly a game's manager, still dependent on stores, but then again, you can submit *any* game into it with a customized installer | 18:24 |
| Nothing_Much | https://lutris.net/ | 18:24 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | Desura has convergence? | 18:25 |
| Nothing_Much | Desura is a Steam-like client, but it's under the GPLv3, but not many people use it :\ | 18:26 |
| Nothing_Much | There's some *really* good games which were mostly abandoned, sadly, either because they couldn't get onto Steam because of the lack of players or.. yeah that's pretty much it. | 18:27 |
| Nothing_Much | That's mostly an assumption though, because I only found one game that was abandoned which is free on Desura right now, but it's a pretty addictive casual game | 18:27 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | I found tri on Desura, but then I couldnt find it on desura again and started telling me it was unavalible | 18:36 |
| === ahayzen_ is now known as ahayzen | ||
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