[00:12] embrik: you can look for the right tools in the PPA, but it wasn't until Ubuntu 14.04 that they started shipping with Ubuntu. [00:13] MTP support works out of the box, and you can use adb or phablet-shell (with phablet-tools installed) to get a terminal on your phone via USB. [00:13] The phone simply doesn't have Bluetooth support outside of headset support yet. It's a work in progress. [00:21] exit [00:21] leave === _salem is now known as salem_ [01:02] is there a way to press ctrl+x in terminal? [01:08] what phone can I buy that I can install ubuntu image on? [01:08] ^so it works more or less reliably.... [01:23] buzz [01:25] what phone can I buy that I can install ubuntu image on? [01:31] danrik: nexus 5 [01:31] !devices | danrik [01:31] danrik: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [01:32] danrik: but you might wanna investigate whats working and what still in progress, before you buy [01:33] danrik: for tablet nexus7 works pretty nice [01:42] lotuspsychje, any 5.5 inch smartphones? [01:42] danrik: check the XDA forums for more projects, the nexus devices are the most supported devices for the moment [01:43] danrik: and 2 brands sell the smartphones with ubunut: BQ and Meizu [01:46] lotuspsychje, meizu doesnt sell em yet - right? [01:47] danrik: wont take long i think [01:47] lotuspsychje, yeh. thats what they say :( [01:48] danrik: im sure other companys will follow in the future [01:49] danrik: but for now, if you can get a grab of a nexus5 think its your nicest bet (cheapest perhaps) [01:49] 2nd hand nexus5 maybe [01:51] lotuspsychje, and even nexus 5 it says that bluetooth doesnt work and has power issues..... [01:52] sigh. ive been waiting for a long time. but now mmy phone is busted and I think Ill just get another android. [01:52] danrik: android is just so unsafe.. [01:52] danrik: you dont like Bq specs? [01:53] lotuspsychje, yeah - specs is a killer :( [01:53] danrik: so why not buy the Bq with ubuntu then? its 169 euro [01:54] lotuspsychje, because bq phone has small screen and other low specs? [01:55] ok then wait for meizu :p [01:55] lotuspsychje, cant unfortunately. :( work stuff. gotta have a phone. been waiting using (sigh) 5year old dropid incredible. - but now it broke. [01:56] :p [01:56] danrik: i hear roomers they installed ubuntu touch on a one+one smartphone also [01:56] maybe investigate this? [01:56] lotuspsychje, YES! [01:57] lotuspsychje, i was gonna buy that one anyway cuz of low price and cyanogen. === salem_ is now known as _salem [01:57] check youtubes on that one with touch [01:58] fucking ubuntu. it's like J.J. MArtinsen - "ohh don't worry - dragons are coming" [01:58] "hope and change" bitches [01:59] lets keep it familly friendly here :p [01:59] whatever:) I'll just get one plus for now :) [01:59] danrik: check the ubuntu touch video's on 1+1 [02:03] lotuspsychje, hmm. it says blutooth, mobile data and wifi arent working. heh. [02:03] lotuspsychje, guess im gonna be rocking cyanogen for now. [02:34] danrik: the development model has been the nexus4, not the nexus5 [02:34] video playback doesn't work on the nexus5 either [02:36] DonkeyHotei, heh. that's fine. I've already ordered one plus one. [02:37] one plus one support is a work in progress [02:37] DonkeyHotei, yeah. so im gonna be using android for now I guess. [02:37] most things don't work on the one plus one yet [02:38] DonkeyHotei, when ubuntu phone with acceptable hardware gonna gonna come out - Ill just buy it. [02:38] like the meizu mx4? [02:39] DonkeyHotei, well - whatever gonbna come out. mx4 or m1 note or whatever. :) [02:53] lotuspsychje: I don't know many kiddies that use IRC these days :) [02:54] ? === James is now known as Guest75847 === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh [05:28] Hi : I see the location in platform-api/src/ubuntu/application/ubuntu_application_api.cpp file and know the location is a .so library, but the implement of src/ubuntu/application/common/application/location/instance.h is invoke the ubuntu-location-serviced daemon through dbus-cpp, so exactly what is the location of "IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1(location, xxx,xxx)" in ubuntu_application_api.cpp ? [05:32] and I do not find .so file named location.so in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ directory of device === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [06:16] Some issues after installing devel on Nexus 10: earphone jack won't work, music app title won't start, browser is very buggy, does anybody else have these experiences? [06:17] The music app isn't (I believe) working in devel-proposed at all whatsoever for anyone right now. But should be in a week or two. [06:17] There's basically no attention being given to the tablet right now. I suspect that will change some time in the next 6 months. [06:20] I followed the official installation instructions and installed devel, anyway which image will currently fit at best for the Nexus 10? [06:20] Probably devel-proposed, but as I said, no one's working on the tablet. Everything's still focused on the phones at the moment. [06:21] I get a Nexus 7 in the mail some time in the next 48 hours. Hopefully it'll be useful but I'm expecting to spend a lot of time dual-booting between Ubuntu and Android until 15.10. [06:23] ok, I'm going to test a little bit more and wait for better times. How can I officially report ubuntu-touch bugs to Canonical? [06:24] Ubuntu Touch isn't really something that exists separately from Ubuntu, so you'll need to report the bug against the specific software exhibiting the problem on Launchpad. [06:24] Someone here can probably help you find out what software package if you have something specific in mind. === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson_ === marcustomlinson_ is now known as marcustomlinson === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === georg is now known as Guest9227 === Guest9227 is now known as georg1982 [08:22] Hi is there a way to change the partition layout on a ubunutu phone running on a nexus 5 during runtime? [08:24] Hi : I see the location in platform-api/src/ubuntu/application/ubuntu_application_api.cpp file and know the location is a .so library, but the implement of src/ubuntu/application/common/application/location/instance.h is invoke the ubuntu-location-serviced daemon through dbus-cpp, so exactly what is the location of "IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1(location, xxx,xxx)" in ubuntu_application_api.cpp ? [08:24] and I do not find .so file named location.so in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ directory of device [08:25] ??? [08:26] Guest75847, wow, thats pretty detailed, i think tvoss and ricmm should be able to help you [08:27] Guest75847, what are you exactly trying to do? :=) [08:28] Guest75847, IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1 is a macro defined by the platform api impl. [08:35] Laney, what do we do with silo4 now ? [08:35] ogra_: thought you had an idea [08:35] I don't [08:35] maybe take didrocks stuff which doesn't have this issue, not sure how many changes that is [08:36] OOC? [08:37] I guess you are talking about whoopsie-preferences and such [08:37] yes [08:38] mutilating the code to work around this limitation would be quite sad [08:38] so we just discussed it in the landing meeting [08:38] whoopsie-preferences is for vivid-only [08:38] or rather, with latest whoopsie [08:38] which moved the conffiles [08:38] my idea was to change livecd-rootfs the same way we do for timezone and hostname settings [08:39] so that the file actually lives in a writable dir [08:39] that required hacks in systemd too [08:39] pitti bears the scars [08:39] then we can write atomically to it [08:39] but .... [08:39] I'm really out of context about the issue/what you are trying to solve [08:39] thats to big of a change to do it right now [08:40] so we will prepare it but not land it ... and can land it after the OTA *if needed* [08:40] Laney: for whoopsie? no systemd hacks AFAIK [08:40] no [08:41] for /etc/timezone & co [08:42] right, but vivid doesnt use /etc/default anymore [08:42] so there we shouldnt need the hack [08:42] ah ok [08:42] unless you atomically write to the .override file [08:43] ogra_: I guess you can forget about the atomic call as long as we have all those bindmounts… [08:43] apart if you make the dir writable, of course [08:43] rpadovani, hey, good morning! I added one more comment to https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/settings-page/+merge/253975 [08:43] (which would then be really tricky ... since we cant draw the same trick for upstart jobs) [08:47] Hi tvoss: I know the macro, and the macro implement eventually will load a library, and the library name will be passed from declare place such as in "IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1(location, xxx,xxx)" location is the library name ? [08:48] hello tvoss? [08:54] Guest75847, the library loading is handle by http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk/view/head:/src/bridge/bridge.h [08:54] Guest75847, where Bridge means the bridge between bionic and glibc world [08:55] Guest75847, the IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION* macros only resolve symbols from the loaded library [08:55] Hi all! When will be the next OTA update release this week? [08:55] sil2100, jibel ^^^ [08:56] robin-hero, i think it goes to bq first for sign off, before it goes public [08:56] ogra_: And what is this mean? [08:57] that it might not be this week :) [08:57] Guest75847, does that answer you question? [08:57] ogra_: Oh, I am very sad, I can't wait for the new update because the better battery life :( :D [08:58] so where is location.so in "IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1(location, xxx,xxx)" ? [08:58] yeah, i guessed so [08:58] ogra_: is the proposed channel enough stable for every day use? [08:58] robin-hero, i might be worng, thats why io pinged jibel and sil2100, one of them should know [08:59] Hey [09:00] sil2100, do you knwo if we push out the image directly or does it go to bq first ? [09:00] robin-hero: due to the holiday-delays, I suppose the OTA will be made available to the users next week, since we will start the release process for it later today [09:01] ogra_: BQ needs to sign it off as well [09:01] right [09:01] So it's a 2 step sign-off process indeed :) [09:01] sil2100, we should make that more clear in the landing mails [09:01] Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy World Health Day! :-D [09:01] ogra_: right, I'll do that [09:01] i.e. that "we release this week" means nothing to the user [09:01] sil2100: Thanks for the answer. [09:02] (apart from "wait for bq now" ... ) [09:02] I'm happy because unless UPS intentionally sits on my package, I'll get my Nexus 7 later today! :D [09:03] I guess that devel-proposed is still the best channel for tablets? [09:03] ogra_: usually BQ signs it off in around a day, so in the best case it shouldn't be much delay [09:03] But yeah [09:03] nhaines, yeps [09:03] ogra_: thanks. :) [09:03] sil2100, right, we just need to get user expectations right, to not cause ddisappointment [09:05] ogra: So my question again: Is 14.09-proposed channel enough stable for everyday use? If yes, how can I change to this channel? [09:06] robin-hero, if it is only for getting the OTA earlier, i wouldnt ... after the OTA that channel might see breakage until it is stablized for the next OTA [09:08] (if it is to help testing and fixing such breakage, sure then switch, but be aware that there might be issues after the OTA went out which you will likely have to deal with) [09:09] ogra_: can you roll back updates? [09:09] you will, once we base on snappy :) [09:09] \o/ [09:09] but not now, no ... [09:09] you can re-flash with a former version [09:09] Is that a 15.10 thing? [09:09] snappy ? yeah, kind of ... [09:10] we still have some issues with the age of the device kernels that arent easy to solve [09:10] ogra_: but I think every update in 14.09-proposed channel needs a QA signoff, it isn't true? [09:10] (snappy requires systemd, our systemd version (latest upstream) dropped support for older kernels) [09:10] Yes, of course. [09:11] robin-hero: no, 14.09-proposed is where the updates land and then the QA reports lead to the next version as they stabilize so that a promotion to 14.09 can happen. [09:11] robin-hero, the package bundles (silos) need QA signoff ... but that might not catch issues that only happen if the silo is built into the image ... every release from -proposed to the actual OTA channel needs QA (and bq) signoff [09:12] but we dont test every single -proposed image [09:12] ogra_: nhaines: Ah, now it is clear, thanks [09:13] Hi tvoss: QtLocation will call to these interface about location in platform-api/src/ubuntu/application/ubuntu_application_api.cpp eventually ? [09:14] Guest75847, QtLocation will call to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk/view/head:/include/ubuntu/application/location/service.h [09:14] and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk/view/head:/include/ubuntu/application/location/session.h [09:14] Guest75847, QtLocation does not know anything about the implementation of the platform api [09:18] Whenever I try to locate myself, the app/scope/whatever I am using does not manage to locate me even if location detection and GPS are on. The only way I manage to locate myself is through being connected to a wireless network. I am using a nexus 4 running stable 14.09. Help? [09:19] ZacharyI123, the nexus4 images do not have the HERE location provider installed, GPS needs up to 20min to get a sattelite fix ... [09:19] hi, how can I move .crash file from the phone? I used sudo to change permissions for it (copied it to Documents) but phone refuses to attach it in gmail, and desktop says libmtp error cannot get file from device [09:20] GPS is always on, I never turn it off. Still getting no location :( [09:20] EdwardMorbius, they get deleted automatically a while after they got uploaded automatically [09:20] ZacharyI123, being outdoors ? [09:20] The map app always says geoloction failed unless wifi is on [09:20] ogra_ I have the file copied to Documents [09:20] Outdoors, indoors and driving [09:20] and this one wasnt uploaded according to whoopsie [09:21] there is a "SensorStatus" app in the store [09:21] that should give a little more info about GPS (just a little thouh) [09:22] I will just get it now brb [09:22] ty [09:22] EdwardMorbius, sudo /usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all [09:23] EdwardMorbius, that should trigger an upload of the file [09:23] ogra_ ok thanks I will try that now [09:23] thanks for the answer! and would you please talk about the calling process, such as QtLocation (QML)->QtLocation(C++)->....service.h/session.h? I don't know I need to [09:23] you can watch the progess in /var/log/upstart/whoopsie.log [09:24] use QtLocation (QML) or QtLocation(C++) [09:24] ogra_ SensorStatus installed. The GPS bit has a green tick for Found supported backend, the Mathod says Satelite, and everything else is blank. What can I do? [09:24] ogra_ I got an error for the file [09:24] EdwardMorbius, what error ? [09:25] error processing compressed file ended before the end-of-stream-marker etc [09:25] that is for the crash file I wanted to move from the phone [09:25] thats inside the file ? or when opening it [09:25] that is reported in the terminal whey I type the command you provided [09:26] ah [09:26] file corrupted maybe or something? [09:26] well, i'm not sure it makes actual sense to upload a corrupt file [09:26] probably it crashed whhile compressing [09:26] oh too bad its corrupted, it was related to unity8 freeze. [09:27] I have tried SensorStatus. The GPS bit has a green tick for 'Found supported backend', the 'Method' says 'Satelite', and everything else is blank. What can I do? [09:27] Saviq, ^^^ do you gain anything from EdwardMorbius uploading a corrupt crash file for unity8 [09:27] ? [09:27] ogra_, EdwardMorbius, nope, sorries [09:27] ZacharyI123, well, that looks like GPS is on but doesnt have a sattelite fix [09:28] Saviq ok then I was just planning to update the bug report and say the file is corrupted but no need now [09:28] on the N4 i actually have to leave the device outside on the window shelf for 20-30 min to get GPS at all [09:28] Strange. Could a case interfere? Tbh I haven't reflashed for ages so I may try that. Maybe one of the devel/devel-rpoposed builds will give me more luck [09:29] That's not good. I hope the bq/meizu are a damn lot better! [09:29] what channel are you on currently ? [09:29] stable [09:29] thats really ancient [09:29] haha, what should I go for? [09:29] and yes, bq and meizu ship the nokia HERE provider ... [09:30] that's good, can I change my channel without reflashing? [09:30] well, dveel-proposed is still a bit bugy, but there location should work [09:30] cheers [09:30] devel (without proposed) is also pretty old (december) but i dont know if location is fixed or not in that image [09:32] so is it only devel-rpoposed that has the location fixed? [09:32] and how can I change the channel (if possible) without reflashing? [09:36] ogra_ ??? [09:37] via adb ... [09:37] see the system-image-cli command, it has a --switch option [09:38] fab, thanks! right, is it only devel-proposed that has location fixed? [09:38] (needs sudo to execute ... no sudo to read the --help output ;) ) [09:38] ok :) [09:38] i dont know, i havent touched an N4 in a long time ... but if it is fixed, proposed is the most likely channel to have the fix [09:39] ok thanks! [09:40] at least the release devices work, very tempted to get the bq, or the meizu when its out [09:40] +1 [09:40] with the nexus, due to limited ram, my background apps close as I am using them :( [09:40] that is by design though [09:41] apps you put in bg get sig-stopped ... if the ram is used up they get sig-killed, if you foreground them, they should start again though [09:42] yeah, still lose your place [09:42] I am waiting for meizu, any clues when and how it will be out? [09:44] ZacharyI123: Meizu decides all that internally. [09:44] Even if anyone outside of Meizu *did* know, it'd be under NDA. [09:44] right, should be soon though? [09:45] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [09:48] "soon" [09:51] \o/ [09:51] Soon: http://i.imgur.com/9QQh8qT.jpg [09:53] ogra_, please note that the LastSeen timestamps on wifis in vivid are corrupt [09:53] ZacharyI123, ^ [09:54] with that, network-based positioning might not work at all or be flaky [09:55] Guest75847, QML or C++ is up to you, both just works (tm), modulo bugs in the positioning stack [09:57] OK, thank tvoss, I'll try! === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk [10:15] Hello! I had originally planned to purchase a Nexus7 for Ubuntu Touch. I had ordered two stickers to 'personalise' the device (see www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161646250081 and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111507947637 ). Unfortunately I did not get on with UT on my E4.5, which I have subsequently returned. I have no interest now in purchasing the Nexus7 and as such as the stickers are surplus. Would anybody like these? (Ideally UK). L [10:17] Anon_189473, oh :( [10:17] Anon_189473, why did you not get along with the bq ? [10:18] ogra_: Just too many things not quite there for use as a daily phone for me (bluetooth support for handsfree being one significant example). I understand it's a platform in development and I'm still excited about it but it's just a little too green for me at this stage... Maybe in the future? :-) [10:19] ah .. well, the next OTA (within this or early next week) will fix a ton of these issues [10:19] but yeah, if you feel it is to "green" then it isnt for you indeed === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [10:20] * ogra_ uses an ubuntu phone as daily driver since about 1 year ... no android around me ... and i havent looked back yet ... but my demands are probably different [10:21] ogra_: Maybe I should have waited another week then. Or maybe the UT release should have been held another week? Either way, some people can live with it and some not. As I say, I'm still really interested in the project and you guys should proud of where you're at with it, but it's just too soon for me. [10:22] And - on that note - that's why I don't need those stickers. I could toss them in the bin but I gathered it was worth checking if anybody else was interested before I did so... I know putting stickers on your gadgets is not something some people are happy with though :-) [10:22] well, reality is that we cant really test all corner cases, external hardware etc etc ... so we kind of need reports from community people that catch such issues we didnt or couldnt test [10:23] i think for an 1.0 release we did pretty well ... definitely not worse to IOS 1.0 or android 1.0 [10:23] and with the ~8 days of battery life i get with the current OTA proposed image i think we even advanced beyoond them [10:24] * Anon_189473 was always quite fond of Android on the HTC Dream/G1 - But I suppose that was many years a go and expectations change :) [10:27] reminds me ogra_, next time you reboot your phone, please pull the sd card out :) [10:27] popey, oh, i still owe you an info, right [10:28] (i'm pretty convinced any SD will work though, i'D like to test a 128G one one day) [10:56] seb128: hey. trying to run AP tests for system settings. getting an error: [10:56] dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.dbus.exceptions.DBusException: ('org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.DoesNotExist', 'Access point with SSID [fake ssid] could not be found') [10:56] any idea? [10:59] Hi tvoss? [10:59] hey [11:01] I find two libubuntu_application_api.so, one is in platform/android/hybris/, and aother is in platform/src/ubuntu/application/ [11:03] Do you know the difference? [11:08] dednick, looks like the device isnt set up properly to allow dbus === BOHverkill_ is now known as BOHverkill [11:08] did you do all the preparation stuff needed for AP tests ? [11:09] ogra_: hm. I might have reflashed since i last did that. thanks [11:12] dednick, unsure, check with jgdx [11:12] that seems like the recent dbusmock changes [11:13] seb128: yeah. i just saw there were changes to those tests. i've merged latest and rebuilding now. [11:14] k [11:15] Guest75847, you only need to consider the one that is installed in /usr/lib/${arch}/lib... [11:20] I see libubuntu_application_api.so/.so.2/.so.2.9.0,and the 3 so all can work! [11:20] in /usr/lib/${arch}/ directory [11:21] hi everyone [11:23] Any news about the date for the next April ota update ? [11:23] Thanks [11:24] cotton, i just answered the same question on the mailing list [11:25] thank tvoss， see you！ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [11:25] Guest75847, yup [11:37] dednick, hey, do a sync with trunk, the fix for that should be in there. [11:47] Just out of curiosity, am I the only one "fighting" with Mundo Reader Germany's customer service? === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [11:59] Hmmm, I put my Aquaris E4.5 down five minutes ago and it automagically rebooted into Fastboot mode. What to do now? [12:00] weird, havent seen that [12:00] Okay, holding POWER+VOLUME_UP got me into the boot menu and now it is back up again [12:01] ogra_: This is the first time this happened, but I only got the phone yesterday evening [12:01] battery charged ? [12:01] ogra_: Jep, 34% charged [12:01] one of my "friends" managed to poke the phone into fastboot in a bar at fosdem [12:01] popey, by putting it down ? [12:02] not sure what he did, i handed it to him, he handed it back and said "not ready for prime time" [12:02] at the time i didn't know the special move to get out of fastboot which was frustrating [12:02] worst case juts hold power until it hard reboots [12:03] ogra_: I did, how long do you have to hold the power button on the E4.5 until it aborts fastboot mode and reboots? Because I held it for like 20 seconds and nothing happened [12:03] pretty long i think [12:04] longer than you think [12:04] john-mcaleely would know i guess [12:05] jgdx: ta [12:05] Hmmm, I somehow automatically expected that it was about ten seconds because it is about ten seconds on the Android devices I have [12:05] My fault [12:06] it is a few secs in all other modes iirc [12:06] i do like the "powered by ubuntu" thing on the retail phone [12:06] and the origami background [12:06] mine is still in the box :) [12:07] It is actually a pretty neat device. I was surprised by how much lighter than the Nexus 4 it feels [12:08] it is also impressingly fast compared to the N$ [12:08] *N4 [12:09] (mostly thanks to the small resoultion i thinnk) [12:13] hi :) [12:13] hello [12:14] i'm here to get some information about ubuntu-touch and parallella platform [12:14] is there anyone that already tryed this ? [12:15] AlanBell: did you get your parallella? [12:15] adexmont, parallella have their own Ubuntu spin [12:16] adexmont, https://github.com/parallella/pubuntu [12:16] yes, i know that, just looking for some other lightweight os alternatives [12:16] Oh, ok [12:17] adexmont, there are snappy images for parallella ... [12:17] cant get any lighter ubuntu (though snappy doesnt have any UI bits yet) [12:20] i was looking for a sort of android instead of ubuntu (maybe on arm can perform better ?) but i will not able to compile from scratch [12:20] you think java performs better on arm ?!? [12:20] heh [12:21] if you have an android 4.4 tree you could try porting ubuntu though :) [12:21] don't know, just looking at smartphone that run a worst cpu than zynq7020 and perform better [12:21] (we use the binary drivers from android in ubuntu, you need a minimal tree to build the container we run after startup) [12:24] popey: yes, but I have no clue what to do with it [12:26] good day, anyone know how to install or configure ubuntu with the features of ubuntu-touch? [12:31] thanks [12:32] bom dia, alguem sabe como instalar ou configurar o ubuntu com as funcionalidades do ubuntu-touch? === niemeyer is now known as niemeyer_ [12:40] cleiton: you can install Ubuntu 15.04 and then install unity8. But it isn't ready for primetime yet. [12:40] yu can also try the desktop-next images [12:40] (on a PC ) [12:44] sturmflut-work: thanks!! [12:46] I didn't find the file uploading option in messages in the Facebook webapp. Is it possible that it isn't supported? [12:49] robin-hero, what kind of file ? [12:49] like pictures [12:50] I want to share a picture in the messages [12:50] Does anyone know how to configure ubuntu with accelerometer functionality, automatic rotating screen? [12:50] robin-hero, you need to open the allery app (or camera), opne the pic ... there is a menu at the top right ... select "share" and then select facebook from the popup dialog [12:50] *gallery [12:51] ogra: but this is share the picture on my wall, right? But I want to share it in the chat. [12:52] * ogra_ has no facebook account ... i donw know the difference :) [12:52] I can send stickers, but not photo/picture [12:53] ogra_: When will be your new G+ webapp available? I don't like the actual version. [12:54] robin-hero, you can sideload my click ... [12:54] cleiton: There is an article by John Wells about Ubuntu on tablets, http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/ , and there he mentions a script he wrote to rotate the screen, https://github.com/jfwells/linux-asus-t100ta/tree/master/rotation/lib/udev [12:54] cleiton: But it doesn't use the accelerometer yet [12:55] cleiton: I don't know if the rotation feature in Unity8 makes use of accelerometers on "normal" tablets and PCs, or if it just works on the phone. [12:56] sturmflut-work: ok [12:56] alex-abreu: ^^ about sharing on facebook [12:57] dbarth_, robin-hero there is an issue w/ the user agent there that makes it not possible to access some fb photo share bits, I need to fix it [12:57] Hello everyone, just wondering is the screen dimming while playing a video a bug or should it be dimming after ~40 seconds? [12:58] robin-hero, download http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/google-plus.ogra_0.2_all.click ... enable developer mode and push it via adb to /home/phablet/ .... then log in and run: pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted google-plus.ogra_0.2_all.click [12:59] sturmflut-work: I'm from Brazil and here the information are very few on touch technology. [12:59] sturmflut-work: Thank you for your attention [12:59] alex-abreu, hey ho ... so i'm looking for a way to get direct photo and video sharing from camera and gallery to work in my alternate G+ app... ken pointed me to your latest G+ commits, but i dont really see how you do the picasa uploads (or youtube), is that actually supposed to work in your last commit ? [12:59] cleiton: No problem! What kind of device are you using? [13:00] alex-abreu, i would expect some C++ handler that does the login and pushing to the photos/video places G+ uses [13:00] ogra_, I dont do picassa uploads [13:00] but how do you upload then ? [13:00] alex-abreu: thanks, is there a bug report for it? [13:00] sturmflut-work: Lenovo yoga 2 13 [13:00] ogra_, g+ is very nasty as an app, there are no g+ apis for uploads etc. [13:00] the /share? url only takes a URL parameter [13:00] right, i know [13:01] i'm banging my head against this since two weeks :) [13:01] ogra_, so it is very very inconvenient to work w/, ... so the only option there was to play w/ the dom and the webview internals [13:01] oh ! [13:01] ogra_, yeah this is depressingly bad [13:01] no apis and such [13:01] nah ... just inconvenient [13:01] robin-hero, yes hold on a sec [13:01] there are apis for picasa and for youtube [13:01] you just need to somehow get them integrated [13:01] cleiton: Nice! Please do report back about your progress. [13:02] (which is rather a bigger thing to do indeed) [13:02] ok [13:02] ogra_, well more than that, ... the code is very britle since it relies on a given dom structure, and google made it so that you have no anchor point in terms of class/id, everything is "anonymized" [13:03] yeah, they seem to use some random number generator for names :) [13:03] ogra_, the picassa api afaik are somewhat deprecated, and they dont allow you to post on your g+ wall anyway [13:03] but they usually dont change at least [13:03] sturmflut-work: ok [13:03] they allow you to use the lh3.googlecontent url ... [13:04] so you upload to picasa/google-photos ... obtain that url ... and re-use the /share url [13:04] same should work with youtube [13:04] ogra_, pretty much as dirty as the dom thing :) [13:04] yeah [13:05] but will give you video too :) [13:05] ogra_, video upload is not so much of an issue, the same dirty dome bit would work [13:05] dom [13:05] * ogra_ will take a look [13:06] is that in a userscript ? [13:06] robin-hero, https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1392331 [13:06] Ubuntu bug 1392331 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "Unable to share photos directly on the facebook webapp (or via browser)" [High,Confirmed] [13:06] ogra_, it's a mix [13:06] i got in-app photo sharing working OOTB ... just not the external bits [13:07] (as well as URL sharing from content-hub) [13:07] alex-abreu: Thanks === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [13:10] <_1_zabi> hi === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:29] si parla italiano? [13:30] Giordano, generally we speak english here ... but there might be italians in the channel [13:31] Giordano: if you need some italian guidance, join #ubuntu-it-dev [13:40]