[04:31] morning all. [04:45] hi Tonberry [04:45] hi [05:43] good mornings [05:44] morning inetpro thats good [05:44] it will rain when you have the time right [05:44] lol [05:46] ek bly man, my korea kontak het sy loco aan die gang [05:46] if only africa was as easy [05:51] my god [05:51] CNN is as bad as fox news [05:51] https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11026039_10153318786825528_8549034136874744109_n.jpg?oh=875b355b58daa9ba7f3db0941aea5552&oe=55BB8673 [05:51] what do you notice about that map [06:01] nothing sells like sensationalism [06:02] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:02] Symmetria: is all the hubbub over there affecting you much? [06:02] 'lo Kilos :) [06:02] ThatGraemeGuy they have tightened security in Nairobi, heavily [06:03] which is a good thing I suppose [06:03] *shrug* it makes certain things slightly more difficult but nothing 2 bad [06:03] k [06:03] (for example, I went to the shopping centre near my house on Saturday and the defense force was searching every car coming in) [06:03] I know the media tends to blow things up a little [06:04] make it sound like you need to GTFO right now [06:04] *shrug* Nairobi is perfectly safe if you stay outta eastleigh (which is basically little somalia) [06:05] so pretty much same as here. some shitty areas, some shitty people, but the media would have you believe the whole place is a warzone [06:31] anyone know which shops sell ADSL filters? think mine is on the blink [06:43] incredible corruption [06:49] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABADuZxfruk <=== from minute 13:30, a debate on cyber security that I was moderating [06:50] hi barrydk [06:50] morning all [06:51] hi pieter2627 [06:59] another day another dollar guys [07:11] shoot me someone, i just made coffee but put it in my jungle oats instead of my coffee mug [07:11] hahahaha [07:11] neat [07:11] ;p [07:13] they talk about ouderdom, the ouder is nothing its the dom thats the prob [07:18] Kilos: sound like you just invented a way to save time at breakfast :-D [07:19] hahaha [07:19] doesnt taste too bad either [07:19] just needed more sugar [07:20] sies [07:20] sugar is evil :-p [07:20] yeah i know but it tastes so lekker [07:20] lol [07:23] More almal [07:50] hi TinuvaMac [07:51] morning Kilos [07:52] hmm... you have added yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members yet [07:52] naughty [07:52] havent [07:53] dont know [07:53] what is that for? [07:53] active za members [07:53] it says "Ubuntu" enthusiats... [07:53] I don't see myself as one [07:54] launchpad say we have 80 but i never see so many now im collecting those that are active there [07:54] I am a general *nix enthusiast sure, but thats where I will leave it [07:55] ya well we accept nix enthusiasts [07:55] havent you got ubuntu running anywhere [07:56] we definitely do, for customers :P [07:56] thats good enough [07:56] join [07:56] become part of our community [08:01] oh [08:01] when you install for customers tell them about this support channel please [08:01] stick a lable on their pcs [09:14] morning [09:15] hi Padroni [09:15] you battling at work? [09:16] at/with work? [09:17] yo drussell hows davey [09:17] hi Kilos [09:18] hi Padroni [09:18] yeah, busy at work [09:18] hi psyatw [09:18] hi psyatw sorry didnt see you [09:18] Kilos, no problem, I didn't even see myself as there is no mirror here at work [09:19] lol [09:36] Kilos: hey! All good, back from a week and a half of holiday, refreshed and ready to go :oD How's you? [09:37] im good ty, glad you get refreshed, others need to go to work to rest after hols [11:25] hmm... [11:25] * Kilos waves to tumbleweed and confluency [13:23] Hello all! [13:23] hi Mopkop [13:30] You know the biggest hurdle with converting people to linux is no longer that they are used to windows (you can thank Windows 8 for that), but the gaming. The linux community should start focussing on making it worthwhile for companies to port to linux. Maybe by making distribution very easy. [13:30] Like an opensource steam or something. [13:32] someone should ask Valve to port Steam to linux [13:32] maybe they can get some games ported too to get things started [13:32] nah, that's crazy talk [13:50] Lol [13:52] hmm... [13:53] im sure i played steam games here before [13:53] only they use data [13:54] hi Private_User [13:54] whats happening there by you? [13:55] hey Kilos [13:55] ah nothing much, been offline the entire weekend, connected today but not sure why but my connecting was not stable [13:56] eish you still struggling [13:56] cellc was it [13:57] yeah this thing is sometimes working 100% lekker and then at other times its like it not good at all [13:57] ai! [14:19] I was thinking of an opensource alternative to steam, which is intergrated into Ubuntu, and publishers do not have to pay a fee. Kind of like the software centre, but with all the nice gadgets steam has. [14:20] who would do that? [14:20] i.e. where's the money? open source is all good and well but it sucks at paying rent :) [14:21] hahaha [14:22] i was just going to say them theyll start charging for ubuntu [14:22] for now there's steam for distros, or SteamOS if you want something more appliance-like [14:23] I think it may be too late to try and be the competitor there, they have a pretty solid head start. whatever you come up with would need to work on all 3 platforms Steam is already on [14:29] kilos that python book is actually quite good [14:30] I am using it in conjunction with my course material [14:30] its what fly recommended [14:30] good [14:52] I'm off [14:52] see tomorrow [14:52] Have a good one. [14:52] go well [14:53] What book was that? [14:53] I want one too! [14:54] byteofpython [14:54] maaz google byteofpython [14:54] Mopkop: "A Byte of Python - Swaroop CH" http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/python/ :: "A Byte of Python - Swaroop CH" http://files.swaroopch.com/python/byte_of_python.pdf :: "A Byte of Python - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/g2swap/byteofpython/read/ :: "A Byte of Python (PDF) - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/swaroopch/byteofpython/files/120/byteofpython_120.pdf :: [14:54] "A Byte of Python" http://www.byteofpython.info/ :: "Free PDF: A Byte of Python by Swaroop… [14:54] http://files.swaroopch.com/python/byte_of_python.pdf [14:55] Thank you Maaz, Kilos. [14:56] The problem with getting new books, is you to read through most things you already know. [14:57] its easy with a pdf you just scroll past [15:03] If I do that, there is that one line I missed which will make everything else difficult to understand. I'll just speed-read through it. :) [15:09] lol then read everything man [15:10] speed kills [16:08] Hello pieter2627! [16:08] wb pieter2627 [16:09] Hi Mopkop, Kilos and all others [16:43] ohi superfly hows the heqad? [16:44] head as well [16:45] mostly OK [16:46] sjoe mostly [17:01] i go eat [17:07] good evening [17:07] magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn What is the link to the monkeys study wiki page ?" 2 days, 2 hours, 20 minutes and 24 seconds ago [17:07] magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn Did you get the dbnlug mail from edrich about work?" 6 hours, 58 minutes and 9 seconds ago [17:14] Kilos: ping [17:28] hi magespawn pong sorry [17:28] Maaz tell Kilos http://linux-studies.za.net but the permissions have changed, i am not sure if there was a sign on, i think superfly is hosting it, if i recall correctly [17:28] magespawn: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [17:28] lol [17:29] sjoe [17:29] Kilos: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell Kilos http://linux-studies.za.net but the permissions have changed, i am not sure if there was a sign on, i think superfly is hosting it, if i recall correctly" 33 seconds ago [17:29] no worries Kilos, i did see that mail thanks [17:30] whew [17:30] monkey got probs [17:30] he gets lug mail hey [17:31] i think so, if not they will know how to get hold of him [17:31] what problems does he have now? [17:31] Maaz studiessite is http://linux-studies.za.net [17:31] Kilos: If you say so [17:31] outa work and had to leave room as house was sold [17:32] might want to put a space in there [17:32] Maaz studiessite [17:32] http://linux-studies.za.net [17:33] how come no one told you im eating [17:33] i thought he was a programmer? [17:33] sies man pieter2627 Mopkop [17:33] i am too [17:33] they are all fast asleep too [17:33] lol [17:33] Kilos: ? [17:34] as ek weg is groet mense asb en se hulle waar ek is [17:34] Lol, sorry oom :( [17:34] np [17:34] Sal onthou in die vervolg. [17:34] Kilos i thought he is a programmer? [17:35] programmers must know how to do anything [17:35] fly is also a programmer but he builds sites and lots more [17:36] if you out of work you must take what you can [17:36] do you know what kbmonkey does exactly? [17:36] nope [17:36] remember when we get him back that we find ou [17:36] t [17:37] not lekker having empty tummy long time [17:37] i fasted once for 4 days [17:37] first and second days are heavy [17:37] no your tummy runs everything [17:40] you got experience with that system magespawn [17:40] i forget what [17:40] the one the first lpi course used [17:43] centos [17:44] oh my [17:44] only one i dont chase is inetpro [17:45] he just ignores me [17:53] back again Kilos === Kilos is now known as Kiloswhat [17:54] wb what broke [17:54] oh my [17:54] lol === Kiloswhat is now known as Kilos [17:54] looks like empangeni just went on load shedding [17:55] sometimes konversation forgets where i must type [17:55] eish [17:59] Loadshedding in 2 mins :( [17:59] ai! [18:09] Sanibonani nonke emhlabeni [18:09] ja jy ook [18:09] hi inetpro [18:10] hi inetpro [18:10] ohi Kilos [18:10] lol [18:12] how are things going here this evening? [18:12] very quiet [18:12] you havent been here to chase peeps [18:12] wb Mopkop [18:13] Lol, power not off yet... [18:13] not here [18:13] Eskom is waiting for me to do something engaging, and then cut me off in the middel. [18:14] nick Mopkop [18:14] thats why i cant use a ssd === Mopkop1 is now known as Mopkop [18:14] is that not always the way it works [18:15] just now dont worry [18:15] kohlewe [18:15] how you spell that inetpro ? [18:16] oh paw here too [18:16] Kilos: you mean to say ngikohliwe? [18:16] you forgot what? [18:17] ja ek het vergeet [18:17] wat het jy vergeet oom? [18:17] where did i say i forgot [18:17] oh [18:17] lol [18:18] n ot me man the dodo that was supposed to turn the power off [18:18] ahh, ukohliwe [18:19] ty ill try member that [18:19] you got trello work [18:19] and ty for the sphinx warning [18:19] tell me about the work Kilos [18:19] where is the COC walk through [18:19] i got more work [18:20] oh [18:20] this time in asia somewhere === magespaw3 is now known as magespawn [18:20] Kilos: https://trello.com/c/olme2bfK [18:20] why asia? [18:20] where was it inetpro [18:21] i just helped korea get a loco going magespawn and there are some hassles in an asian loco [18:21] Kilos: in Current Activities [18:21] ai! ty inetpro [18:22] methinks best way to smooth out a loco with internal strife is to get them to read and sign the COC [18:23] sounds like a good idea, get everyone on the same page [18:23] why cant other locos run like ours [18:23] we got a lekker LoCo [18:24] Kilos: sorry for ignoring you on that [18:24] np inetpro [18:24] they are not as intelligent? [18:24] but you had me confused for a moment and then I forgot to go check again [18:24] he is offline anyway [18:24] lol [18:24] Kilos: you added that to 'done for March 2015' [18:25] oh my [18:25] not making sense there [18:25] how do we save it [18:25] oh in maaz [18:25] Kilos: you can just archive it now [18:26] Kilos: you just failed to RTFS again :-) [18:26] lol [18:26] im blinder man [18:26] Kilos: no worries [18:26] * inetpro fails all day every day [18:27] where can we save that info and remember it [18:27] i think slexy removes old posts dont they [18:27] leave that card there for now until someone has time to put it up nicely [18:27] we have more important things to deal with now [18:28] what [18:28] hmm... we actually need superfly to come help us [18:28] Kilos have you tried things like evernote? [18:28] nope magespawn [18:29] magespawn: don't come with even more things now man [18:29] oh the site inetpro [18:29] magespawn you do that for us [18:29] inetpro: just an idea [18:30] get the COC walk through and post it somewhere safe [18:30] its in trello [18:30] Kilos: one step at a time [18:30] it's safe in trello [18:30] for now at least [18:30] him not me man [18:31] ya but do i give the trello link to someone in asia? [18:31] Kilos: does he really need it? [18:32] obviously, anyone can read that [18:32] well youve seen peeps battle with COC [18:32] it's public information on our Trello board [18:32] sjoe [18:32] im gonna use kaans there in future [18:33] Kilos: just like here [18:33] ya but here i see them [18:33] uh? [18:33] and greet them [18:34] and check if their hair is combed [18:34] oh [18:34] Kilos: but the, you don't really [18:34] uh [18:35] hundreds are reading what you say here later via the irclogs [18:35] hi spinza [18:35] you are way behind [18:35] thats fine [18:35] they must that poor group [18:36] wsay [18:36] say [18:37] We still have this... [18:37] maaz code of conduct [18:37] http://bin.snyman.info/rcecy [18:38] ty Mopkop [18:38] Been meaning to make a better one, but at least it's foolproof. [18:38] maaz COC is http://bin.snyman.info/rcecy [18:38] Kilos: If you say so [18:40] so which part of your pc does the COC align with inetpro ? [18:41] if i change cpu will i need to do it again [18:41] i dont think it will be ram related [18:42] * Mopkop is not following the discussion. [18:43] they key is stored on your harddrive Kilos [18:43] the gpg thing i think [18:43] Yea, the gpg key. It's just a text file. [18:43] oh so only the drive is recognised [18:44] if you change drives you need to make a new one [18:44] Deja dup will keep it backed up, I Think. [18:44] No you can just import the old one. [18:45] has anyone figure why you really need the GPG key even? [18:45] figured* [18:45] you can copy the key to ther locations, and as far as i know devices [18:46] nono Mopkop [18:46] s/ther/other [18:46] it recognises something in your pc [18:46] do we still have peepe who use GPG? [18:46] inetpro: it 'proves' who signed the code of conduct [18:47] hmm... [18:47] Kilos: Oh I see. The only thing I can think of is the Harddrive's serial number. [18:47] cantried taking the key to another machine and it didnt work [18:48] it even makes you type some more at time to make the key [18:48] its a serious thing that [18:49] Kilos: serious!? [18:49] ya hard to break from another pc [18:49] It chould also be the machine name, or username like with SSH keys. [18:49] is there a better way inetpro? [18:50] magespawn: not that I'm aware of [18:50] * inetpro just forgot the process due to doing it so long ago [18:51] haven't needed the key ever again [18:51] ya its only for signing the COC isnt it [18:52] can't remember it being difficult [18:52] sjoe [18:52] you can also use your key to sign all sorts of things, like email or other documents [18:52] fly had to help me twice on this machine and old one [18:53] gpg can also be used for sending secret (encrypted) messages with Thunderbird. [18:53] I sent a few secret emails at the time just for the fun of it [18:53] gave up because nobody else was using it [18:53] lol [18:54] can't believe we still use email after all this time [18:54] too much like hard work to get one [18:54] it not only 'ensures' the privacy of the mail, but authenticates who it is from [18:54] it's a yuck technology [18:55] almost like FTP [18:55] I just wish I had the brains to replace it with something much better [18:55] it is what people are comfortable with, those same people might sa the same about irc [18:56] magespawn has a point [18:56] s/sa/say [18:57] hmm... not sure anymore but dont think i battled much with irc [18:57] no!! Please don't touch my IRC!! [18:57] :-) [18:57] the fly was there all the way [18:57] go fly [18:58] gotta go, getting chased up to my room, bbl if i can [18:58] ok magespawn [18:58] magespawn: go, go, go! [18:58] lol [19:10] I heard a disturbing thing from a friend who develops military software. [19:10] tell [19:11] Apparently many military units (from all over the world, including South Africa) do not not change their passwords. So the passwords are something like 'admin' or 'password12' or 'qwerty' [19:11] Doesn't make me feel very safe. [19:12] lol [19:13] It's more difficult hacking a home computer than hacking the many of the army's installations. [19:14] Mopkop: don't tell anybody [19:14] Sometimes those "installations" have guns. I know my friend is working on computerized barbed wire. If someone touches it, it sends the location to cameras and guns. [19:15] inetpro: too late, these things are logged :( [19:15] Kilos: where's Padroni when we need him? [19:15] lol day time only [19:16] Really? [19:16] :-) [19:16] and all windows pcs Mopkop [19:24] night all [19:24] night piesleep tight [19:24] ai! [19:27] night all. sleep tight. i gotta crash too [19:27] inetpro gaan slaap man [19:27] why? [19:28] so you not tired tomorrow [19:28] too early [19:28] nono [19:28] 8 hours sleep will make you young and beautiful [19:28] sleep time is at midnight [19:28] hee hee [19:28] oh serious!? [19:29] * inetpro will think about it [19:29] night toppie [19:29] Kilos: slaap lekker! [19:29] Night Kilos! [20:25] * superfly is wondering who or what he needs to save [20:28] superfly: hmm... [20:56] superfly: you mean you want to look at merging now? [20:57] I can have a peek [20:59]