[07:15] <Peace-vivid> i am testing kubuntu 
[07:15] <Peace-vivid> and :
[07:16] <Peace-vivid> dolphin freeze when i open a file with kate
[07:16] <Peace-vivid> energy saving stuff doesn't work i mean i can't ge my monitor always turn on even putting 99 minutes
[07:16] <Peace-vivid> i have seen a lots of crash of plasma 
[07:16] <Peace-vivid> :D it's a disaster 
[07:17] <Peace-vivid> plasma 5 it's not ready 
[07:26] <xennex81> i would agree that plasma5 is nowhere near ready, from what I've seen
[07:27] <xennex81> after upgrade (live upgrade) to 15.04, kde wouldn't even log me out, and logging in takes very long
[07:28] <xennex81> it's worthless to me at present. Themes also don't work well, by default you cannot select Air with good panel (taskbar) look, and Breeze Dark wouldn't even apply. Icon theme takes a restart (or logout/login) to register or make it through. I get half my icons then in the old theme, half in the new. All weird.
[07:29] <xennex81> most window decoration themes are too transparent to even be useful because the window behind always shines through and makes text hardly readable.
[07:29] <xennex81> at least everything to do with oxygen and the like
[07:30] <xennex81> transparency is a killer here and not a good one
[07:31] <xennex81> they are pushing it with the default configuration and nothing else, but that's not KDE
[07:31] <xennex81> the change to SDDM in itself is questionable
[07:33] <xennex81> when the old configuration was not even up to par yet, too many changes too fast
[07:35] <Peace-vivid> i dunno but for me another release with kde4 would be better 
[07:36] <Peace-vivid> this kubuntu would be like the old ages kde4.0 disaster release
[07:36] <Peace-vivid> maybe a little better
[07:36] <Peace-vivid> kde4 was very terrible with 0 release 
[07:46] <valorie> hmmm, I have breeze dark
[07:47] <valorie> dolphin doesn't freeze when it starts a file with Kate
[07:47] <valorie> and no plasma crashes
[07:47] <valorie> but I have a fresh install
[07:48] <valorie> I had the first crash today for weeks
[07:48] <valorie> and that was apport, nothing to do with plasma 
[07:58] <sitter> Riddell, ScottK: konversation 1.6 final on its way to the queue
[08:00] <soee> ;o
[08:18] <xennex81> i don't know, I think the upgrade should be similar to the fresh install, but the alpha 2 fresh install did not have those issues at least not the login/logout issues for me
[08:19] <xennex81> and hi val
[08:20] <xennex81> but at present i am seriously thinking of just debugging the plasma-desktop issues myself
[08:20] <xennex81> that i have
[08:20] <xennex81> just dedicate a few weeks to reading its source and starting to see what's wrong or what could be wrong
[08:21] <xennex81> profiling etc.
[08:21] <xennex81> that is, after all, the beautiful thing of open source ;-).
[08:22] <xennex81> but I don't even have KDE installed right now, I'm in Ubuntu GNOME
[08:22] <xennex81> trying to see how it compares
[08:22] <xennex81> and the customizability is great, it is just impossible to find at first
[08:35] <soee> oh you dont know what is good :D
[08:36] <soee> xennex81: if you want to dig into plasma, you will get  help at #plasma
[08:36] <xennex81> right thanks
[08:37] <xennex81> there is just a resource hog inside that process that kills my fun in kde4/kubuntu 14.10
[08:37] <xennex81> plasma5 is now blazing fast in comparison
[08:37] <Peace-vivid> valorie: i did a fresh install new user but i got crashes
[08:37] <xennex81> but I still don't know yet if it has to do with SDDM/Lightdm or not at all...
[08:37] <soee> true, and hey this week Plasma 5.3 beta will be released :)
[08:38] <xennex81> so kde4/kubuntu 14.10 boots up real fast I'm in the system within a minute easily, but it slows down after a few minutes and in the end it is so unresponsive that i can't use it anymore
[08:38] <soee> oh wait, tars this week, beta next
[08:38] <xennex81> right
[08:38] <Peace-vivid> valorie: try this , go in the home directory , then try to open bashrc file with kate
[08:39] <xennex81> i think it works for her, but there may be anomalies due to whatever? GPU drivers?
[08:39] <soee> well vivid migt be slower when booting, dunno how much it is related to switch to systemd
[08:39] <xennex81> not sure... at all.
[08:39] <Peace-vivid> xennex81: could you try this too ?
[08:39] <xennex81> so many changes makes it hard to single out the causes for any user
[08:39] <Peace-vivid> try this , go in the home directory , then try to open bashrc file with kate xennex81
[08:39] <xennex81> i don't have kubuntu installed right now
[08:39] <xennex81> maybe in a few days again
[08:39] <Peace-vivid> oh
[08:40] <xennex81> i am just bitching about in Gnome :P
[08:40] <Peace-vivid> io have kubuntu 15.04 and kubuntu 14.04
[08:40] <xennex81> to get a better grasp of the Ubuntu ecosystem/phletora
[08:40] <Peace-vivid> :D
[08:40] <soee> Peace-vivid: opens fine for me
[08:40] <xennex81> i guess
[08:40] <xennex81> but the annoyance that has been there for a while is:
[08:40] <Peace-vivid> soee: open righ t, then try to work now on dolphin 
[08:40] <soee> but mu .bashrc is a symlink to file in my cloud server
[08:40] <Peace-vivid> soee: it should be freezed 
[08:41] <soee> Peace-vivid: works fine
[08:41] <xennex81> "open folder" in firefox opens up in either wine-browser or in gwenview-explorer
[08:41] <xennex81> but not in dolphin
[08:41] <Peace-vivid> soee: have you tried to enter in another folder ?
[08:42] <xennex81> i have seen a report about that before, months ago
[08:42] <soee> Peace-vivid: yes, i can navigate, view files, show hidden etc etc
[08:42] <Peace-vivid> xennex81: that shoudl be easy to fix
[08:42] <xennex81> i know, i guess
[08:43] <xennex81> but if its the default that it don't work
[08:43] <xennex81> that's very annoying for a regular or new or even experienced user
[08:43] <xennex81> because it means you need to spend time fixing small things
[08:43] <Peace-vivid> soee: damn why i have this shit then http://i.imgur.com/bLhyqUu.png
[08:43] <xennex81> and there can be many
[08:44] <xennex81> you said kate uses dolphin to open a file right
[08:44] <xennex81> and it locks or anything
[08:44] <Peace-vivid> xennex81: no
[08:44] <soee> Peace-vivid: i have no idea tbh. try starting dolphin from konsole and see if it outputs some data
[08:44] <Peace-vivid> xennex81: dolphin => select a text file => right click => open with kate => back to dolphin => dolphin freezed
[08:44] <xennex81> dolphin tries to open Kate on a file?
[08:45] <xennex81> ok
[08:45] <xennex81> back to dolphin means: close Kate, or alt-tab?
[08:45] <Peace-vivid> do not close anythging 
[08:45] <Peace-vivid> just switch app
[08:45] <xennex81> right
[08:45] <xennex81> clear
[08:45] <xennex81> sounds perhaps like a permission thing to me, but not sure of course
[08:47] <Peace-vivid> xennex81: it's not permission
[08:47] <Peace-vivid> xennex81:  soee look at this http://i.imgur.com/ZeeqWRi.png
[08:48] <soee> Peace-vivid: what if you disable samba 
[08:48] <soee> those locations that use it
[08:49] <Peace-vivid> mm i guess i have not samba 
[08:49] <Peace-vivid> let me check 
[08:49] <Peace-vivid> infact no samba installed
[08:49] <xennex81> lol i could install kate and see what it does with nautilus, but I don't think that will help :P
[08:49] <Peace-vivid> i will try to install then 
[08:50] <soee> also check if you might have some extra services enabled in dolphin that might cause it
[08:50] <xennex81> nah don't worry
[08:50] <soee> but it happens only when kate is running ?
[08:50] <Peace-vivid> yes
[08:50] <xennex81> i would see if there is anything other, different file types, etcetera
[08:50] <xennex81> it would be weird if it was singled out to just kate right?
[08:50] <xennex81> what about another editor?
[08:50] <Peace-vivid> after close kate i got this 
[08:51] <Peace-vivid> wait for upload
[08:51] <xennex81> the key to chaining into kate can't be all that special, even if its a homeborn kde app
[08:51] <Peace-vivid> http://i.imgur.com/Js8vsow.png
[08:51] <soee> Peace-vivid: some not so ogn bug report https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339094
[08:52] <soee> Peace-vivid: read the last bug comment what it fixes
[08:52] <Peace-vivid> soee: mm try the solutiion 
[08:52] <xennex81> i've had issues before in plasma5 that a regular app would not start
[08:52] <xennex81> that i started using alt-F2
[08:53] <xennex81> at one point I could not open a Konsole that way, I believe
[08:54] <xennex81> exactly the same right? Peace-vivid
[08:54] <soee> but this shoudl work in BEta 2 as it uses 5.2.2
[08:55] <soee> Peace-vivid: are you running Vivid with latest updates ?
[08:55] <Peace-vivid> soee: i guess so 
[08:55] <Peace-vivid> i did  my wonderfull alias yesterday 
[08:56] <Peace-vivid> i just did u ; g -y and i got   sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:56] <xennex81> so dolphin hangs because it wants to display the error message "cannot open /usr/bin/kate"
[08:56] <Peace-vivid> yes
[08:56] <xennex81> and the -b flag to kate would not stall it because it goes into daemon mode or something
[08:56] <xennex81> or background
[08:57] <xennex81> i don't know
[08:57] <Peace-vivid> in backgroud i tried to remove -b 
[08:57] <Peace-vivid> and it at least doesn't hangs
[08:57] <xennex81> oh, to remove it
[08:57] <xennex81> okay
[08:57] <xennex81> right, so same thing exactly?
[08:58] <xennex81> the patch changed Kate
[08:59] <xennex81> not dolphin (weird place to fix it then...)
[08:59] <Peace-vivid> i guess i solved my problem soee thank you for diggin out the solution
[08:59] <soee> Peace-vivid: cool :)
[09:00] <xennex81> easy patch too :P
[09:00] <xennex81> i am still not too happy about using git myself
[09:00] <xennex81> it is or seems to extremely complicated
[09:00] <xennex81> just working in another branch has its score of difficulties
[09:01] <soee> git ? :)
[09:01] <xennex81> yeah
[09:01] <xennex81> how to you branch and then selectively add or commit the changes when you merge?
[09:01] <xennex81> i still don't know
[09:01] <soee> oh well i wont argue as i m using it since i started versioning code and dont know alternatives :)
[09:01] <xennex81> i can go into a branch, then do a git stash (or git stash -u I guess)
[09:02] <xennex81> then checkout that stash into the branch
[09:02] <xennex81> selectively
[09:02] <xennex81> then drop the stash for the remainder
[09:02] <xennex81> and then merge that I guess
[09:02] <xennex81> but I haven't done it very well yet, I'm still learning
[09:02] <xennex81> i only used SVN momentarily back in the day
[09:03] <xennex81> but it uses absolute copies of branches, which feels safe
[09:03] <xennex81> real copies
[09:03] <Peace-> xennex81: i use git with dolphin :D
[09:03] <sitter> that sounds awfully complicated regardless of what you want to do :P
[09:03] <xennex81> haha
[09:03] <xennex81> it may very well be :P
[09:03] <xennex81> when i change something i want to work in a fresh directory
[09:03] <xennex81> that's the definition of a branch mostly
[09:04] <xennex81> but git only has a working directory
[09:04] <xennex81> so you branch and you checkout and then the working directory is your branch
[09:04] <xennex81> feels unsafe, but okay, but still...
[09:05] <xennex81> your safety depends on knowing how not to ruin things :P
[09:05] <xennex81> that is git to me :)
[09:05] <xennex81> i learned that you also need a rebase option to pull or you get in trouble with merges
[09:06] <sitter> git doesn't really have a directory at all. git has commit objects that contain stuff and when put together they form the repo content
[09:06] <xennex81> i have often had a rebase followed by a pull and the pull adds all of the commits of the remote (origin) to the stack that is already there
[09:06] <xennex81> so then suddenly I have not 20 commits (for example) but 40
[09:06] <xennex81> which cannot be applied all, because they conflict
[09:06] <sitter> Oo
[09:07] <xennex81> and the only way I have been able to go aroudn that is to use push -f or push origin +master
[09:07] <sitter> Oo
[09:07] <xennex81> haha yeah
[09:07] <soee> sitter: your eyes ... :D
[09:07] <sitter> I think you should read a guid to merge and rebase :P
[09:07] <xennex81> i ahve
[09:07] <xennex81> i have
[09:07] <xennex81> although
[09:07] <xennex81> not all yet
[09:07] <xennex81> there is a very good guide somewhere
[09:07] <xennex81> i have been printing it
[09:07] <xennex81> but it says very very very little on merges
[09:08] <xennex81> maybe because it should already be clear, I skipped a part
[09:08] <xennex81> anyway I am just learning and experimenting
[09:10] <xennex81> i can't print at this point, printer driver not installed etc
[09:11] <xennex81> i use git log --oneline a lot now
[09:11] <xennex81> and git log --stats
[09:11] <xennex81> but git does have a working directory, it just changes the structure of the visible directory(ies) to whatever you have checked out
[09:11] <xennex81> which means constantly moving and deleting and adding files
[09:11] <xennex81> or perhaps I don't know
[09:12] <xennex81> let's say it maintains a working directory
[09:13] <xennex81> can you reproduce that working directory when you just have the .git directory? Of course, should be possible with checkout?
[09:14] <xennex81> but i like pushing the stash and then doing checkout -p
[09:14] <xennex81> checkout -p stash i think
[09:14] <xennex81> i really like reviewing my changes
[09:14] <xennex81> before commit.......................
[10:18] <Riddell> tsdgeos: about distro ended up in kinfocenter for kinfocenter
[10:20] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:08] <soee_> konversation update landed in vivd :)
[11:13] <Riddell> sitter: plasma-sdk is likely to come to plasma 5.3, is it on the todo list fo CIing?
[11:15] <sitter> never heared of it
[11:17]  * sitter thinks people should announce changes like moving into a release scope and porting on the release team list
[11:17] <sitter> Riddell: I'll take a look once I am done breaking the volume applet
[11:19] <sitter> Riddell: also I am not sure I am confident with moving it into plasma 5.3, might be better to have it do a standalone release allowing for faster iteration and then move into 5.4
[13:19] <Peace-> soee: :) i did my job   look at the minimize maximize close buttons :D http://i.imgur.com/Jb6nwqL.png
[13:23] <soee> Peace-: now close button is most important on whole desktop :D as it is biggest one
[15:52] <sitter> yofel: you'll be happy to hear that I just wrote a lint test to make sure CI'd builds have a Vcs-Browser and Vcs-Git|Bzr set ;)
[17:40] <ovidiu-florin> is kubuntu-backports ppa still valid?
[17:40] <ovidiu-florin> does it provide KF5? os just KDE SC 4?
[17:42] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: kubuntu-ppa/backports is the PPA, it provides backports to the more recently released version of kubuntu which 14.10 KDE SC 4
[17:42] <Riddell> but it will provide backports of Plasma 5 for vivid once that's out
[17:43] <ovidiu-florin> we're starting to get adoption of KDevelop and other KDE applications at work
[17:43] <ovidiu-florin> and of course everybody wants the latest
[17:43] <ovidiu-florin> but they are mostly using Ubuntu LTS
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> so I'm looking for which ppa do they need to get the latest KDE on the latest Ubuntu LTS syste
[17:44] <Riddell> mm, lts is stable and doesn't tend to get updates
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> they won't run Plasma
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> ever IMO
[17:45] <ovidiu-florin> they just need the applications,
[17:45] <ovidiu-florin> so no kwin, no plasma, nothing else
[17:45] <ovidiu-florin> just apps and their depencencies
[17:48] <ovidiu-florin> so is kubuntu-ppa/backports what I'm looking for?
[17:50] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yep, it has KDE SC 4.14.2 in it
[17:52] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I see in backports I still have KDevelop 4.7.0
[17:52] <ovidiu-florin> KDevelop 4.7.1 was release almost 2 months abo
[17:52] <ovidiu-florin> if not more
[17:52] <ovidiu-florin> released
[17:59] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: right nobody is doing those backports currently, it needs more person-power
[18:00] <soee> we need good kubuntu promoton to get more users willing to help :)
[18:02] <Riddell> maybe xennex81 wants to become an elite packager and do more backports :)
[18:02] <xennex81> huh, what? :P
[18:02] <xennex81> haha
[18:02] <ovidiu-florin> xennex81: do you want to package KDevelop 4.7.1?
[18:03] <xennex81> you mean backports from a newer version of Kubuntu to an older?
[18:03] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I thought the packaging process was automatic. Isn't it?
[18:03] <xennex81> I don't know I don't have the stability yet
[18:03] <xennex81> to do anything fancy
[18:04] <Riddell> xennex81: stability of what?
[18:04] <xennex81> personal life
[18:04] <soee> shouldnt we support current and LTS ?
[18:04] <soee> (with packages)
[18:04] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: alas not yet
[18:04] <Riddell> soee: ideally yet, but person-power is lacking
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: why not yet?
[18:07] <xennex81> personally I think I will be sticking to 14.10 versions and the like, I like that for some reason. But I also wanted to install a Ubuntu Server thing and then KDE on it.
[18:07] <xennex81> I never got that far though because I couldn't get any wifi going in Ubuntu Server back then (few months ago)
[18:08] <xennex81> so perhaps if I am better settled and know a bit more about everything I might take up something like that, don't know yet
[18:08] <xennex81> it would then center on the .10 versions
[18:09] <xennex81> i seriously want to debug plasma-desktop on 14.10 :P
[18:09] <xennex81> maybe next month
[18:09] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: why not yet?
[18:10] <xennex81> i still hate the Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Linux ecosystem though in some way but I just couldn't stand staying with Windows.
[18:10] <xennex81> nothing to do, and not a good platform for coding and experimenting
[18:10] <xennex81> I feel the Linux brand should disappear and be replaced by Ubuntu/Debian ;-).
[18:11] <ovidiu-florin> xennex81: did you know you can't find the word "linux" on the Ubuntu.com website?
[18:11] <xennex81> right :) :)
[18:11] <xennex81> very good :D
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> we're proud of our heritige
[18:12] <xennex81> I've always been with Debian, as long as I can count :p at least since I first managed a home server
[18:12] <xennex81> when cable internet was new
[18:13] <xennex81> i'm really dying to get some work done, to contribute somewhere in some way...
[18:14] <xennex81> quite literally a bit because my own projects have disappeared on me it seems
[18:14] <xennex81> don't know
[18:15] <xennex81> perhaps in two days I will install a full fresh 15.04 again
[18:17] <xennex81> my skill lies mostly with Java and PHP, if I still have any skill...
[18:17] <xennex81> and nowadays Bash lol
[18:18] <xennex81> trying to make everything or most of it Dash compatible, as per the great Steve Riley :p.
[18:21] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: packaging isn't automatic because while harald's stuff can scoop in the latest from git that's different from scooping in the latest from tars
[18:24] <soee> oh interesting, notifcations stared to show up where they should
[18:25] <soee> system should't install any packages that are useless for me, like some packages related to radeon :(
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I fail to see how that's different
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> OMG hte feedback....
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> you people like to type
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can you please take care of the text/content feedback?
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> I'll take care of the visual, and technical
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell me and jose are planning to put the site on a Canonical server. So I'm confirming that
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> the Download page needs a complete redesign
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> as do other pages
[18:41] <Riddell> groovy
[18:43] <Riddell> frecel: want to become an elite kubuntu packager?
[18:44] <frecel> Riddell: it's hard to say no when the title includes the word "elite" ahaha
[18:44] <Riddell> frecel: all kubuntu packagers are elite
[18:44] <Riddell> and good looking
[18:44] <Riddell> by packaging for kubuntu you become elite and good looking
[18:45] <frecel> I'm sold, how do I get started?
[18:45] <Riddell> frecel: I can give you a tutorial if you are free for an hour or two
[18:45] <Riddell> there's also lots of guides to read
[18:46] <Riddell> and well practice is the main way :)
[18:46] <frecel> actually you just caught me home because I'm an a lunch break
[18:46] <frecel> I have to go back to work in 10 minutes
[18:46] <Riddell> once your siesta is done? :)
[18:46] <Riddell> I know you canadians love your siestas
[18:48] <frecel> When I work, I work hard, when I rest, I rest properly
[18:52] <frecel> Riddell: Can you pm me links to the stuff I need to read, I have made some deb packages before but it's been a while so it won't hurt to refresh my memory
[18:54] <frecel> anyways I gotta run back to work, ttyl
[18:56] <Riddell> frecel: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ but ignore the UDD stuff that's just confusing
[18:56] <Riddell> frecel: https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging is a quick intro
[18:56] <Riddell> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ probably more involved
[18:56] <Riddell> and to test it out you could try backporting kdevelop to 14.10 and 14.04
[18:56] <Riddell> or you could try packaging the new digikam
[18:57] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I'll get to it.
[18:57] <ovidiu-florin> awesome
[18:58]  * Riddell high fives ahoneybun and ovidiu-florin 
[18:58] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: whos feedback should I follow? VDG?
[18:59] <ovidiu-florin> which ever talks about text or images content, and not the website arancement or functionality
[18:59] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ^
[18:59] <ahoneybun> ok let me check the thread
[19:00]  * ahoneybun high fives Riddell bac
[19:00] <ahoneybun> *back
[19:00]  * ovidiu-florin does a three way high five
[19:00] <ahoneybun> XD
[19:00] <ovidiu-florin> 4, including soee
[19:00] <ahoneybun> yes
[19:01]  * yofel hugs everyone
[19:01] <yofel> you're awesome XD
[19:02] <Riddell> :)
[19:02] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: On the features page, several of the images could be cropped or slimmed down a bit; another trick might be overlaying the text on top of visually uninteresting (white-space) portions of the screenshots - maybe having a bit of background under the text overlay to ensure legibility. 
[19:02] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: the ideea is good, but we can't do that only for a few images
[19:02] <ovidiu-florin> we should do that for all, or none
[19:05] <ahoneybun> yea
[19:08] <ahoneybun> the IM is KDE Telepathy right?
[19:11] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yep
[19:12] <Riddell> although the name doesn't tend to be used in UI
[19:12] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: why?
[19:12] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I guess the devs don't think another random brand is useful and want it to just be "IM"
[19:19] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I could preview like images for the screenshots, use less space
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> what?
[19:21] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/WF0h2es
[19:23] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: ^
[19:23] <ovidiu-florin> I'm not sure I get it
[19:25] <ahoneybun> oh
[19:30] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1400730 is verified if you're in a useful mood (the security dudes asked it to be done as they want to update it)
[19:35] <jose> ovidiu-florin, Riddell: just to confirm, we're hosting @ Canonical's and I'll file tickets and get everything moving once the final version is all ready
[19:35] <jose> they're just waiting for us
[19:37] <Riddell> jose: there's only 2 weeks until release, and I guess release time is busy for sysadmins, maybe it's best to start that process now?
[19:37] <jose> Riddell: I'd need to have the site and exports and everything as it'll be on their servers with me to start the process
[19:37] <jose> but elmo's aware
[19:39] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: so maybe best to process the current load of feedback then get it moved to canonical?
[19:40] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: that was the plan
[19:40] <Riddell> great
[19:40] <ovidiu-florin> as I mentioned in my email
[19:40] <jose> perfect
[19:41] <jose> I'm ready when you guys are. if I'm not that responsive, I've gone to university, but I can always respond to Hangouts or email.
[19:42] <ahoneybun> Riddell: around?
[19:44] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I made some changes to the text on the homepage
[19:44] <ahoneybun> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[19:46] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: remove break line from first line
[19:46] <ovidiu-florin> "reviewboard.movidius.com/reviews/"
[19:46] <ovidiu-florin> ah
[19:46] <ovidiu-florin> " worldwide community of"
[19:48] <Riddell> hi ahoneybun 
[19:49] <ahoneybun> I changed the homepage a bit
[19:49] <ahoneybun> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[19:50] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I think the break is needed
[19:51] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: why?
[19:52] <ahoneybun> spaces out the paragraphs
[19:53] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: someone made a comment about the linux icon being old so I found this one http://imgur.com/IV3PjAD
[19:54] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what do you think about the picture?
[19:54] <ovidiu-florin> personally I don't like the font
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: the paragraph alingment is aligned by visual elements
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> not line breaks
[19:55] <ahoneybun> it does not seem to work
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> what?
[19:56] <ovidiu-florin> you're removing the wrong break line
[19:56] <ovidiu-florin> not the space between the paragrapsh
[19:56] <ovidiu-florin> the " worldwide community of" and "developers,testers..." should be on the same line
[19:58] <ahoneybun> fixed ovidiu-florin?
[19:58] <ovidiu-florin> may I edit?
[19:58] <ovidiu-florin> yes, now it's fixed
[19:58] <ahoneybun> yea I need to go fax something
[19:58] <ahoneybun> brb
[19:59] <ovidiu-florin> fax?
[19:59] <ovidiu-florin> where and who do I have to ping to get my userbase translator account?
[20:04] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: what changed? what picture?
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: take a look, adding the contribute menu item is too much
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> one or 2 items have to go
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> the new linux picture that ahoneybun proposed
[20:05] <ovidiu-florin> shall I copy the link here again?
[20:05] <ovidiu-florin> Quintasan: ping
[20:10] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://imgur.com/IV3PjAD
[20:14] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lovely :)
[20:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I think it looks fine
[20:26] <xennex81> "Kubuntu is a way to use your computer that does not break away from the ideal of being around friends."
[20:26] <xennex81> what do you think? :P
[20:26] <xennex81> .
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> what online tool can I use to make a pool that poeple can vote on?
[20:55] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/ ?
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: doodle also has a voting option
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> not just schedule
[20:56] <Riddell> yep
[21:00] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what does "Additional ifneedbe answer for busy participants." mean?
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> found it: Yes-No-Ifneedbe Poll: In a basic poll, the people you invite can only respond “Yes” or “No.”  This option adds a third possible response, “If need be,” to give you more detailed information on participants’ availability and flexibility.
[21:03] <Riddell> it's a "maybe" option
[21:09] <ovidiu-florin> http://doodle.com/vnd3bm7tq8tqxfsc
[21:13] <ovidiu-florin> all read the description before you vote
[21:19]  * Riddell snoozes
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: ^^
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ^^^
[21:27] <shadeslayer> I'm too tired
[21:27] <shadeslayer> Tomorrow
[21:51] <valorie> ah, peace is away, but opening ~/.bashrc works without a hitch
[21:54] <valorie> oops, not enough time this afternoon -- bbl
[21:56] <soee> valorie: he fixed it
[21:56] <soee> this was known bug, and fixed in 5.2.2 i think
[21:57]  * soee taking a bath